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http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/40k-rumors-astra-militarum-beyond.html

>Baneblades in the codex

Yea I'm not going to be that guy to call it straight up lies/wishlisting, but I'm going to call it... highly optimistic

Why? The Stompa became Orks LOW.
The Khorne Mower became KDK LOW
Plastic super heavies become the LOW for them

 ultimentra wrote:
>Baneblades in the codex

Yea I'm not going to be that guy to call it straight up lies/wishlisting, but I'm going to call it... highly optimistic

It's not that optimistic.

I mean, you might not get ALL of the variants in there but it's not that unbelievable given that Tesseract Vaults, Obelisks, Stormsurges, Stompas, and Wraithknights are all present in codices now.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Why? The Stompa became Orks LOW.
The Khorne Mower became KDK LOW
Plastic super heavies become the LOW for them

Yes but we're the Guard son. We don't get nice things. I once showed up to a big game day at my FLGS and people gave me weird looks when I said "yeah the Deathstrike isn't Strength D it's strength 10." The general response was, "how is that seriously not strength D when everyone else gets D in their codex somehow?" My reply was always "IG don't get nice things. Ever."

If you have low expectations to begin with, you wont be BTFO when the truth turns out to be terrible. My realistic hopes for this codex are a decurion with some kind of recycling mechanic for Platoons or conscripts, and some kind of mechanic that buffs orders or leadership. That's about it. I don't see point costs reductions, unit buffs, or anything of the sort being a realistic expectation for our faction.

Remember those little quotes from Dawn of War? "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." Keep that in mind Guardsman, especially when it comes to releases for us.

It's almost a given that Baneblades will be LoW in the codex.

Except y'know. IG was before LOW where in codexes.

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's almost a given that Baneblades will be LoW in the codex.

I recall reading that last year when the current codex was a rumor.

It would be nice if the Baneblade was included, but I'll never put it past GW to go against expectations either.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's almost a given that Baneblades will be LoW in the codex.

I recall reading that last year when the current codex was a rumor.

It would be nice if the Baneblade was included, but I'll never put it past GW to go against expectations either.

When the current codex was a rumour there hadn't been a whole load of codexes released first all with LoWs in the codexes...this time every full codex released previously has had LoWs. And the Baneblade is the obvious one. It's basically a given.

 ultimentra wrote:
If you have low expectations to begin with, you wont be BTFO when the truth turns out to be terrible. My realistic hopes for this codex are a decurion with some kind of recycling mechanic for Platoons or conscripts, and some kind of mechanic that buffs orders or leadership.

The linked article wrote:Look for an “decurion” heavily featuring Astra Militarum Armored Vehicles.

I.e. even worse than your most pessimistic hope.

Regarding Baneblades, I fully expect a few to make it into the Codex. I also expect them to be terrible. As you said, "IG don't get nice things. Ever."

The oldest kits that they are still selling are the Catachans, so I'm hoping that they got a resculpt at some point and they're just now letting us have it. Otherwise, the Bassie is the next oldest kit.

Maybe a new plastic regiment, or possibly a Cadian resculpt, which I heavily doubt. Plastic rough riders with cyber-steeds would be rad too.

Here's to hoping there's another cheap armored company box so I can replace the 10 I sold off the last time I stopped playing.

The Baneblade is currently a Lord of War in the Escalation book. I don't see a reason why that won't carry over to a new codex.

 ImAGeek wrote:
And the Baneblade is the obvious one. It's basically a given.

No. Yarrick is. With exactly the same rules as he has now.

 ultimentra wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Why? The Stompa became Orks LOW.
The Khorne Mower became KDK LOW
Plastic super heavies become the LOW for them

Yes but we're the Guard son. We don't get nice things. I once showed up to a big game day at my FLGS and people gave me weird looks when I said "yeah the Deathstrike isn't Strength D it's strength 10." The general response was, "how is that seriously not strength D when everyone else gets D in their codex somehow?" My reply was always "IG don't get nice things. Ever."

If you have low expectations to begin with, you wont be BTFO when the truth turns out to be terrible. My realistic hopes for this codex are a decurion with some kind of recycling mechanic for Platoons or conscripts, and some kind of mechanic that buffs orders or leadership. That's about it. I don't see point costs reductions, unit buffs, or anything of the sort being a realistic expectation for our faction.

Remember those little quotes from Dawn of War? "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." Keep that in mind Guardsman, especially when it comes to releases for us.

Now say it was like an 18 inch blast, yeah, S10 is fine...

*A new special character will be named a LoW. He will be a platoon commander with WS5 and a master-crafted laspistol. He'll have a $40 clamp pack.
*All current named characters will be removed since they do not have plastic models.
*Leman Russ' will still be Heavy vehicles and they still won't fix the Ordnance rules.
*Vendettas will see another price bump.
*Baneblades rbecome Apoc only (again) because they are deemed by the studio as OP.
*Ratlings get a plastic kit. They're still terrible in the rules.

Larry Vela, natfka, and some random homeless guy I talked to all confirm these changes.

BoL(locks) clickbait. I'll wait for more reliable sources

Given GW CURRENT track record, I would agree with the baneblade will be added.

I was a hater just like most, but the recent changes I see as at least an olive branch.

Amazing will be if the Rough Riders get a new kit.

Even more amazing would be if they got rules that made them worth taking.

Also.. return of the Lumbering Behemoth rule would be great, but we're not allowed to have nice things I suppose.

Meh.

I'd rather they squat Rough Riders and move on.

I'm not buying anything new if the Lumbering Behemoth isn't fixed. The standard LRBT could be such an amazing all-purpose tank, if it weren't for that bloody ordinance. At least change the ordinance to primary weapon instead, they did it with Necrons so that the Doomsday Ark could still fire its other guns, so I can't imagine a reason as to why the IG shouldn't have it either.

Why do all ops posting Bols 'rumors' never quote the actual content so we have to go to these pages to read it? So people get paid now for posting links here? How do I get hired too?

Seriously this is happening for weeks now...

"Look here!? www.belloflo..." It's like spam bots.

At least put some information into the first post...

Guards are in serious need of either getting a reseculpt of their basic troopers, or getting a new one made.

The Cadian and Catachan are really starting to show their age, and they are really boring sculpt.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Meh.

I'd rather they squat Rough Riders and move on.

I like rough riders, they just need an update. You look at historic cavalry and even when they were becoming less relevant they were elite units. Their update, they need to be kinda what vanguard are to assault marines. I just remember some of the small artwork for different regiments from the 4th ed codex... One RR regiment had Lizard/beast mounts pictured another obviously wearing something more like carapace armor with a shield. An RR update needs to be all of that.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Guards are in serious need of either getting a reseculpt of their basic troopers, or getting a new one made.

The Cadian and Catachan are really starting to show their age, and they are really boring sculpt.

It also doesn't help that they're missing half of their special weapons options, forcing many to resort to use up bits from the plastic command squad box or buy metal special weapon blisters. They could also pack a hefty amount of extra bits into those sparse looking sprues.

We already know all plastic Baneblade variants will be in the Cadia army list in Mont'Ka - info from Mr.Panda. Why would they not be in the next Astra Militarum Codex then?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670623.page#8265172

 the_Armyman wrote:
*A new special character will be named a LoW. He will be a platoon commander with WS5 and a master-crafted laspistol. He'll have a $40 clamp pack.
*All current named characters will be removed since they do not have plastic models.
*Leman Russ' will still be Heavy vehicles and they still won't fix the Ordnance rules.
*Vendettas will see another price bump.
*Baneblades rbecome Apoc only (again) because they are deemed by the studio as OP.
*Ratlings get a plastic kit. They're still terrible in the rules.

Larry Vela, natfka, and some random homeless guy I talked to all confirm these changes.

Bro you forgot about our new Command Benefit for taking our decurion formation-
Incompetence of the Imperium:
All Infantry Platoons must pass a leadership check in order to- move as normal, shoot, assault, receive orders, fail orders, take leadership checks. If this leadership check is failed, the unit is pinned.
All Plasma guns taken in the platoons as special weapons Get Hot on the roll of a 1, or 2.
If a friendly infantry unit falls back within 12'' of a Commissar, the Commissar and his unit must immediately make an out of sequence shooting attack against this unit. Your opponent rolls all dice for this attack.

Don't forget about the fluffy requirements!
1-2 Company Command Squad
2-3 Commissars
2-5 Infantry Platoons
1-3 Scout Sentinel Squadrons
1-3 Ratlings, Scions, or Ogryns
1-3 Basilisk or Leman Russ Battle Tank

I was discussing this "leak" this morning, and then this crops up... I think maybe BoLs scraped this from a Facebook post on a 40k group, and cleaned up the grammar. It's word for word the same as a user post there.

Either way, I hope it's true.

Yes, they do that sometimes. Happened to one of my posts as well.

Anyway, next Astra Militarum rules release is on Nov 28. The Cadia army list in Mont'Ka. It comes with several formations, a multiformation detachment ('Decurion'), Cadian tactical objectives and orders, datasheets for all 9 plastic baneblade variants, Warlord traits and their own relics. Preorder is Nov 21

Well, whenever the next dex drops lets just hope that Mont'ka will be enough to tie us over until then. And if there really is going to be datasheets in Mont'ka for IG superheavies I don't see why they wouldn't just copy paste them to the dex as they would already be done.

You have to take my word for now or use a gogle translation for the the last sentences on the page. Mont'Ka does come with nine AM superheavy datasheets (unit rules) and Banebade and Shadowsword are mentioned specifically.