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Drakhun





Eaton Rapids, MI

http://privateerpress.com/files/WM%20MKII%20Rules%20Errata%20Jan%202016.pdf

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Dakka Veteran




Illinois

So it turns out the PP was continuing to go the route they did with the previous errata and continue to make balance changes for certain models. Wasn't expecting them to nerf brad again even though it is a good change. Changes to trolls will likely make some people salty.

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Fake Englandland

I've already seen people salty over the Troll changes, but I think it's mostly jut kneejerk reactions. I don't mind it, but it doesn't change much that I tend to use

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Drakhun





Eaton Rapids, MI

People will always cry when their over powered stuff gets brought back in line.

Personally I think the errata will be good for the game and will help a lot with the list stagnation we have been seeing in tournaments.

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Terrifying Treeman






The Fallen Realm of Umbar

I'm really liking the addition of Quick Work to the Dawnguard Destors

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Not as Good as a Minion






Brisbane

Still some tier lists to go, but they're certainly making progress which is great to see. And just straight up kicking warders in the balls, which also makes me happy haha

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Master Tormentor





St. Louis

They kind of needed that kick though. Right now, it's hard to justify playing anything else, and that's really awful for the meta. They're still one hell of a tar pit, and aren't bad at unsticking themselves with their high MAT. They just won't shred warbeasts anymore.

EDIT: That being said, they probably could use a drop in cost of a point or two, to reflect their altered role.

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Monstrous Master Moulder




Rust belt

Oh social media I have seen a bunch of pissed off troll players. I found it funny over the last year that so many people jumped on the troll band wagon. Wardens needed to be taken down a peg and I'm glad PP took away their WM. Wardens where to good of a unit for their cost and people in my area took advantage of that.
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Sheffield, UK

I'm still slightly confused that PP thought the Woldwarden's animus was more in need of fixing than the Feral Warpwolf's.

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Tough Tyrant Guard







I wonder what they were thinking sometimes.

I don't think anyone would argue warders weren't overpowered in the context of the faction. The closest I've heard is "Warders are balanced, all the other medium-based infantry in trolls are overcosted." But take 3.5 damage from any unit and see if it's still worth anything.

Bombadiers suffer from being slow, expensive, unable to reach anything in melee, and generally being a unit that wants to both shoot and melee in a game where you can't shoot if your unit charges. So they give CRA to a unit that already suffers from low attack volume and shortish range. Okay..? I mean, it's a buff, but what else can you say about it?

Destors suffer from not having Reach except when they're charging. It causes all sorts of dubious interactions (like not being able to shoot models engaging them from outside their 0.5" melee range, or not getting the Unyielding benefit because a model is engaging them from too far away). So they give them Quick Work. Now they are stronger, but have new silly interactions (like charging a model, killing it, then being unable to make a Quick Work attack because they're engaged from outside their melee range). All of that could have been solved by just giving them Reach all the time. Instead - Quick Work?

I think the charitable read here is they're trying to add unusual things to the units to maintain their flavour, but it's still weird that they don't address the glaring issues at all.

The Woldwarden animus was an unexpected change. Maybe it was made to make it unambiguous that it doesn't overwrite other animi on the caster? I'm not sure.

I like the errata in general, though, and am definitely in the camp that the biggest problem with the changes is there weren't more of them.
   
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Ohio

I think all the nerf to trolls really did was to ensure you'll see RoW most of the time and one of the Grims the rest, with perhaps a few Doomy3 lists sprinkled in from time to time.
   
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 George Spiggott wrote:
I'm still slightly confused that PP thought the Woldwarden's animus was more in need of fixing than the Feral Warpwolf's.


You seem confused, you see the Warden actually had an animus to fix.

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