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Hey all,

Just a few days I made a topic about getting a new army or a Warhound. I decided I should go with the Titan but then I felt like I should save up for a little while and go bigger. So my question is, which one would you have more fun fighting or fighting with? We don't play Apocalypse but we are pretty casual.
   
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Both titans are cool but you will get more miles out of a warhound. Plus you can used saved money on a knight or two to escort him

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Very true, I doubt most people would want to fight a Reaver comparatively. So I probably should get the Hound.
   
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You will definitely get to use the warhound more often, but you still have to be careful cause even though as per the BRB you can bring one as your LOW slot most people will cry a river and not want to play against you. I have titans that I get to use about once or twice a year...

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That's really unfortunate. But my best bet it sounds like is to get the Hound so I can play with it. 4 Str D large blasts seem a bit more fair than 8 lol.
   
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Lol depending who you ask 1 D weapon is unfair. Some people even consider Void Shields to be unfair.

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Well I think the Reaver certainly looks a lot cooler, it's also better on the table - though quite a bit more expensive ha.

In either case - you SHOULD play Apocalypse, cuz it's totally awesome!

The last GW:Apoc book was really excellent even though the greater internet-community seemed unwilling to try it. We play Apocalypse fairly often in my group and it's always tons of fun. It is a full-day commitment and stuff like the 'scheduled breaks' seem hoaky until you put it into practice and realize it's necessary.

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I definitely want to play Apocalypse but my friends don't want to dump out the money to play lol. There's also no FLGS around me that plays Apocalypse. Perks of living in Southwest Virginia. I do agree though that the Reaver looks cooler but unfortunately I doubt I'd get to play with it often comparatively to a Warhound. On the looks side, if I had to pick one I'd always pick the Warlord but I don't have $2000 to throw down lol.
   
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 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:
Both titans are cool but you will get more miles out of a warhound.


This is a serious concern. I am planning on getting a Titan and currently leaning towards a Warlord, but the bigger it is the fewer people will be able to put up a fight against it - and fewer still will want to pick a fight with it at all.


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 Gunzhard wrote:

The last GW:Apoc book was really excellent even though the greater internet-community seemed unwilling to try it. We play Apocalypse fairly often in my group and it's always tons of fun. It is a full-day commitment and stuff like the 'scheduled breaks' seem hoaky until you put it into practice and realize it's necessary.


I have that book too, but I have only gotten to use it a few times because, as you say, very few are willing to try it.

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My main issue with the Warhound is... A) price wise you can buy several Imperial Knights instead... and B) game/points wise, 2 Imperial Knights, and in many instances even just 1, are better on the table - also much more accepted in most games.

But that said, I still have a Warhound (unbuilt though) haha...

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spacemarine542 wrote:
Hey all,

Just a few days I made a topic about getting a new army or a Warhound. I decided I should go with the Titan but then I felt like I should save up for a little while and go bigger. So my question is, which one would you have more fun fighting or fighting with? We don't play Apocalypse but we are pretty casual.

No Apocalypse? Than I would say Warhound.

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Disclaimer: I am a titan addict, I have on of each (Warhound, Reaver, and Warlord.) And looking at a second Warhound.

In normal games People will whine, for no other reason than "Its a Titan!" Which automatically makes it soopar unfair! Even with the megabolter/plasma load out.

With that said however, with people running Steroid Ridden 700pt deathstars, multiple GMCs, and Knight Armies, that argument quickly starts to fail.

So be prepared to break people's arguments against them.

And because of that I break out my Titans as often as possible when points allow. But I never spring it on people, they know they're going to be fighting one.

So as for which one to get, first and foremost get the one you think is coolest. Second will it fit into your average points level. Keep in mind the Reaver without specific upgrades falls just short of the 1500 Mark, the Warhound being roughly half that.


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PPl who optimise their list as if they're heading to a tournament when in reality you're just gonna play a game for fun at your FLGS are bascially the Kanye West equivalent or 40K.
 
   
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Thank you guys so much for the input! From what it sounds like, the Warhound would be best because we play at 1500-2000 every game. I like the look of the Reaver better but I would handicap myself or them so bad with it lol. That said, none of my friends run much of anything overpowered, the biggest offender being a Wraith Knight. I'll probably field my Titan with his WK.
   
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Dont be surprised if his wraithknight destroys your warhound though. Void shields are only AV 12 which Eldar can deal with fairly easily.

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 Xerics wrote:
Dont be surprised if his wraithknight destroys your warhound though. Void shields are only AV 12 which Eldar can deal with fairly easily.


still not sure what GW was on when they priced those things cheaper then a IK

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Meh. I had 4 wraithknights before they even became GMC's with D weapons. I used their dreamwalker squadron from the GW:APOC book. Now with that formation they are ungodly... especially since I got the 5th wraithknight to fill out the squad.

+1 Move, WS, BS and charge range for each wraithknight in the formation.


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But yeah. I could say the same about Imperial Knights though. Not sure what GW was on when they introduced a superheavy that could be used in ANY IoM army or by itself as a stand alone codex. Full army of SHV? I call BS.

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The reaver is a much easier build.than the warhound - it's legs are full of fiddly parts!

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I'd imagine it only takes 2 good rolls on the D chart to blow up a Warhound. It's happened to my Shadowsword twice, on turn 1. The explosion took out my platoon blob as well in the explosion both times :(. Should I take 2 Turbo-Laser Destructors on my Hound and try to blow up his WK before it kills my Hound? Also rules question, against Necrons, can the Gauss rule, roll of 6, bring down Void Shields? I'm assuming they can since each shield has an AV value.

The Eldar player only runs Wraith Lords, Fire Dragons, a squad of Warp Spiders, and Wraith Guard in a Wave Serpent. He's working on his WK now. His Warlord is usually Eldrad. We're pretty casual lol.

Edit: I forgot to ask, where do I find the most up to date rules for all the Titans? I know Apocalypse book has them but I think the Horus Heresy Tempest book has them as well.

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spacemarine542 wrote:
I'd imagine it only takes 2 good rolls on the D chart to blow up a Warhound. It's happened to my Shadowsword twice, on turn 1. The explosion took out my platoon blob as well in the explosion both times :(. Should I take 2 Turbo-Laser Destructors on my Hound and try to blow up his WK before it kills my Hound? Also rules question, against Necrons, can the Gauss rule, roll of 6, bring down Void Shields? I'm assuming they can since each shield has an AV value.

The Eldar player only runs Wraith Lords, Fire Dragons, a squad of Warp Spiders, and Wraith Guard in a Wave Serpent. He's working on his WK now. His Warlord is usually Eldrad. We're pretty casual lol.

Edit: I forgot to ask, where do I find the most up to date rules for all the Titans? I know Apocalypse book has them but I think the Horus Heresy Tempest book has them as well.


First: It will take 3-4 Good D-shots to break a Warhound. 2 Void Shields absorbing two of them if they are still intact. Two shots if something else brings them down assuming he gets a deathblow result.

As for weapons, mine currently has a Twin Turbolaser and the Plasma Blast Gun and it's done wonders for me. Keep in mind the Turbolaser by itself gets 2 shots, it's not twin linked. And the plasma blaster eats infantry alive.

Gauss and Void Shields: Yes Gauss can bring down void Shields and any pen/glance will collapse them, as they are able armor value and Gauss "Auto glances on a 6" they will be dropped on that 6.

As for the most up to date rules, the three Imperial Titans are in book 5, They are for 40k and 30k as per forgeworld and it's the only place for the Warlords rules.

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 drunken0elf wrote:

PPl who optimise their list as if they're heading to a tournament when in reality you're just gonna play a game for fun at your FLGS are bascially the Kanye West equivalent or 40K.
 
   
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Don't worry about what other people think; I have found that you can run a "nasty" army but if it's fluffy and you're not TFG attitude-wise, everyone is fine with it. Take a look at my Centurio Ordinatus army in the picture; It's terrifying, each one exceeding the power and toughness of a Warhound. And yet people play against it; I've never not gotten a game if I wanted one in an evening, though I certainly have been turned down by some people and had to play others; I don't mind it one bit. I am bring three Ordinatus engines after all, I should expect some games to be turned down!

The point is, in my opinion, it's more your attitude about it and less your army list that makes people want to play you or not. Lords of War, yes, even my Ordinatus engines, have significant disadvantages, and once an opponent learns to leverage those it can become a fun and engaging game for all involved, unless the superheavy is a GMC (which Titans are not). Some people just don't want to learn. My $0.02.

   
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Why do you want a titan?

Seriously - do you want it for the joy of the model, or for the joy of stomping things with 12-20kg of resin? The answer to that should probably inform your decision

I say this because for the joy of painting, the Chaos Reaver beats the Loyalist one hands down as its just *full* of detail. The Loyalist one is pretty much bland in comparison needing freehand skill and/or serious tools to make it look as wonderful.

The loyalist/chaos warhound on the other hand is a toss up - As i'm a plasma junky I prefer the way the warhound plasma blastgun looks, but a rusty warhound is pretty spectacular too.

Tabletop effectiveness the Reaver is the winner because it simply doesn't die, esp if you give it mark of nurgle.

Indeed the only way I managed to topple one was with almost equivalent points in Vendettas, and a lucky Stormraven dreadnought drop at the last.

As it happens, that game led to becoming fast friends with the titan's owner. 'bringing down a titan' one on one is a moment that expresses how much *fun* this game can be, if you stop trying to accommodate the migrant MTG players.

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The best titan is the imperial knight.
   
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 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
The best titan is the imperial knight.

So a Max armour 13 6HP titan with no D weapons is better than an Armour 15 (all round) with 30HP titan, with 4 D weapons?
Your Logic is Flawed
   
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Given that said 30HP titan costs nine times as many points, I wouldn't necessarily say Fenrir Kitsune is wrong...

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commander dante wrote:
 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
The best titan is the imperial knight.

So a Max armour 13 6HP titan with no D weapons is better than an Armour 15 (all round) with 30HP titan, with 4 D weapons?
Your Logic is Flawed


Personal taste bro. Winning ain't everything. The model for the knight is the best.
   
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I have held off on a titan because in my area I wouldn't be able to field it often. If you could field them both as often as the other, get which ever one you think is coolest.

There is a dude who fields whatever he wants whenever he wants. He is a little bit of TFG, as he gets salty when his unbound army of 1 reaver doesn't win. Any who, if your meta has games that support those models, get the one you think is the coolest!


   
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imo go with the reaver.

It's so hard to get a decent game with a titan anyways that it will be a display piece more often than a gaming piece, so might as well go full helturkey and get the cooler one.

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commander dante wrote:
 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
The best titan is the imperial knight.

So a Max armour 13 6HP titan with no D weapons is better than an Armour 15 (all round) with 30HP titan, with 4 D weapons?
Your Logic is Flawed


The thing is, whether you're talking points on the table or actual money, you can field at least 2 Imperial Knights for every 1 Titan. If just one of those Knights assaults your Titan it's done.

Now especially with the Renegade box deal... you can field 4 Knights for less than it costs to field a single Titan.

But as I said earlier in this thread, the Titan's are still cool and I have one (unbuilt) myself haha.

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Buy a warhound and then spend the savings on a Mechanicum or AdMech army with Knight Titans to support it.

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