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I am going up against jacks that have counter charge and a weapon that knocks you down if it. My question, if the model cannot move the full 3 inches does it still get a nonboosted attack? So if I charge into melee does it and any other model I engage get a free swing? If they can't move the full 3 inches are the unable to make any attacks? If they hit me with this weapon during a counter charge I am knocked down correct?
   
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Charges give boosted damage rolls not attack rolls. If a model moves less than 3" then it does not benefit from the charge rule but, it can still make a normal set of attacks.

Knockdown is usually on a weapon and as such if you are hit by the weapon then, if all the conditions on the weapon are fulfilled , you are knocked down.

Is there a specific model that you are asking about? You can get a more precise answer if you still need it.
   
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I am going up against a few coc inverters with countercharge. Okay so if I charge with a jack against it they can knock me down and end my activation.

However they have to wait until my next turn to use the macropummeler.


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Also is countercharge limited to once per turn or can they always do it?

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No.

Counter charge doesn't work if the model is engaged.

So if you charge it first and engage it, it can't counter charge into you.

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Can it target the model that I engaged it with?

So let's say I charge 2 sentinels up he can elect to not hit them, then I charge in with a griffon he can't take a strike against the griffin?
   
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chaulmers wrote:
Can it target the model that I engaged it with?

So let's say I charge 2 sentinels up he can elect to not hit them, then I charge in with a griffon he can't take a strike against the griffin?


No it can't. It can neither attack the sentinels (he cannot elect to either hit them or not to hit them in the first place) and he cannot try to attack the griffon that comes in after either.

A model with Counter charge requires that (a) an enemy model finish its move within 6' of it, and for the counter charging model to not be engaged.

If you've engaged him, one of the triggering conditions (is him being unengaged) cannot be met, so he therefore cannot counter charge at all and he cannot otherwise act outside of his own activation- this isn't 40k where you both attack each other. And since he cannot act outside of his activation in any other circumstance, he has to take two sentinels and a griffon to the face.

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And counter charge is limited to once per turn (it's in its rules on the card).
   
 
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