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Some of you may remember this old KS from Maki Games.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rolljordan/maki-games-high-quality-modular-wargaming-terrain/description

I went to their online store after reading through the GW Skulltainers thread in N&R and noticed something a little odd. Apparently only the basic container design is available there despite many other things being unlocked in their KS. The cathedral, industrial, and "upgrade" items don't seem to be available. Has anyone received the alternate/unlocked containers? Are they planning on releasing them through their web store?

Also anyone have a review of these? Are the in fact plastic, how are they? Any pictures of them in the wild?

Their terrain kits are in plastic, says so in the description..

Prices aren't that great though, though this could be due to being a small company.

Their containers are double-sides though, for those who don't like the gothic look:



They also sell plastic space corridor sets:



€106 for a 109 piece plastic kit.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Also anyone have a review of these? Are the in fact plastic, how are they? Any pictures of them in the wild?

I always assumed they were plastic.

Their web site lists two of the base containers at €22.50. I've not seen them in my area nor listed on eBay.

I don't know if they're worth the price but then GW sells three trees and a base for about that price so who knows?

As a wise man once said... define plastic.

As far as I can tell, by "plastic" they mean polystyrene. I ended up getting the "starship corridors" container option and a sushi shop (sci-fi theme walls), and my brother went with just some of the basic containers.

If the speed of fulfillment on the Kickstarter is any indication, though, I'd be surprised if the rest of the terrain options got put up on the site by 2018.

Good friend JJMelo did a review some time ago for Paintingfrog (Link to full article)

Highlights:

...Almost 16 pounds of beautiful plastic and being 100% honest, it was tottally worth the wait. Overall quality is great, detail is crisp, the elements were easy to assemble and paint. The quality of the plastic was a pleasant surprise. Each piece, once assembled, could easily hold my weight, without deforming, and the plastic is strong enough to withstand the roughest treatment.

Overview:

Pros: High quality material, very resistant, easy to paint and lots of different styles to choose from.

Cons: Poor customer service, poor communication post KS, easy to break connectors, each element only offers a couple possible builds, and, despite the parts being interchangeable, not all styles mix well enough to go on the same element...

I've also put together some of them some time ago:



2016 Status: Still waiting for some attention...

I wouldn't be so sure about it actually being styrene. Testor's plastic glue did not work on them, nor did my other (local, unbranded) plastic cement.

Superglue-like (cianocrilate) worked fine, and contact surfaces are large enough for a strong bond.

Either way, is a hard, resistant plastic. Casting is good, details sharp and crisp, and there weren't any mold lines to speak of. Quick to put together, and good looking on a table.

I was a big backer of the Kickstarter, spending an obscene amount of money.


As others have stated, the molding is crisp with very nice details. They are a wee bit taller than the Necromunda bulkheads.


However...

Overall I am vastly underwhelmed. They still owe me about $170 worth of product and the communication has been nearly non-existent, with the last reply from them being on December 5. Many of the connecting pins need to be shaved down if you plan on disassembling them, otherwise the pins will stick and likely snap off. Also, many of the pins (especially on the narrow walkways) aren't thick enough and fail to keep them connected. And finally, you'll notice that it takes 2 wall elements to make the long wall of a container. The edge of many of the wall elements need to be shaved down for them to fit side-by-side without bowing out. The plastic is very hard and quite a bit of effort is required to shave the pieces down. Regular model glue won't work and I found that even superglue was a bit iffy.

Basically, the idea of these being scenic elements that you could easily assemble and disassemble into different combinations like Lego is a fail. Mine will eventually (after I move) be glued together into permanent elements. While I'm sure these finished buildings and containers will look very nice, the product certainly didn't live up to expectations. I'm not entirely sure I got my money's worth with the reduced Kickstarter price; I certainly won't be buying more at the prices they're currently charging.

Well, . I thought I had tested a piece earlier and that it had turned out to be polystyrene. But rechecking just now, I didn't get any reaction from Testor's plastic glue and barely from some MEK glue.

Thanks all!

I was just thinking about these. I had seen some on tables at Adepticon, but it looked like the same ones I'd seen the previous year and I hadn't heard anything soon.

Sorry to see that they fell short in a few key areas.

I'm not surprised that they are not really reassemblable. I've seen many systems that purport to be LEGO-like and almost all have been very much not. Deadzone, Platformer, etc... The only ones that comes close is Hexagon (and that doesn't look great) and old Necromunda terrain which is fairly limited and half cardboard. I think the conclusion is that building smaller modular sections that are permanently assembled is the way to go. Re-assemblable terrain is kind of a pipe dream.

I've shot them an email asking them why domestic shipping is so much more expensive than shipping to the UK, France or even fething Belgium, really fishy, not to mention stupid.

I have about 500 euro worth of the stuff, I like it but the modularity is more limited than Mantic's Battlezones, but there are some neat pieces that might not be available currently but were in the Kickstarter.

The plastic is ABS (same as LEGO).

I'd say it was worth the Kickstarter prices in a vacuum, but I would rather recommend Mantic's terrain (more modular and polystyrene) to anyone buying now.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/icqs6v6sj141tp5/2014-11-27%2016.59.02.jpg?dl=0

If it's ABS, then MEK or Plastic Weld cement should bond it just fine.

IF the join is tight, for this kind of thing I prefer to put the thing together and then drip or brush MEK onto the joins. Capillary action will suck it into the join and fuse it all together.

Yep these are ABS I had to superglue them together. I got 6 containers, 2 Sushi bars and a load of walkways, accessories and the like with the intention of adding them to the Mantic Battlezones, the dimensions aren't quite the same but they can be made fit with a small bit of plasticard or rod. Overall the quality is good and they are well cast, they are worth what I paid for them in the KS but I probably won't get anymore at retail prices. I'm still owed the advertising boards and a few other bits but Maki have gone very quite and I don't think I'll ever see the missing parts or the vouchers they promised backers.

Here's the containers with some Mantic Battlezones you can also see where I added some railings and walk ways using Maki bits. My only complaint with the containers is that the long side is made of 2 pieces and there is a join line in the center. I also glued the doors shut as the Gothic design on the inside just looks odd if you leave the doors open.



Here's the Sushi bar I cut out the window and door panels to provide access to the inside

Nice work combining the Maki and the deadzone parts.

I really like deadzone panels, but not so much on their own. They've been great for combining with Dust Tactics building parts and other terrain bits.

Those do look nice with the deadzone stuff.

As to Maki, they've sort of rebranded as a different company called MK1881 and have been running miniature indigogo's so it's really sad they never finished their terrain one.

https://www.facebook.com/mk1881

While MEK will glue ABS you need high concentrations of it

(so a lot of the glues that have MEK in but are primarily intended for polystyrene won't work well)

you can also improve the results by sanding with a fine grit paper as the 'shine' on the surface of some ABS stuff lets the glue sit on the surface and evaporate rather than being able to start melting it, roughning the surface increases surface area and helps stop this

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
While MEK will glue ABS you need high concentrations of it

(so a lot of the glues that have MEK in but are primarily intended for polystyrene won't work well)

you can also improve the results by sanding with a fine grit paper as the 'shine' on the surface of some ABS stuff lets the glue sit on the surface and evaporate rather than being able to start melting it, roughning the surface increases surface area and helps stop this

This is my experience as well. Pure MEK can work well. Also, the Plastruct glues seem to work well.