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2016/05/27 05:55:41
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
Hey Guys, This is the new Apocalypse Ruins Kickstarter from www.printablescenery.com. We are expanding out into new theaters of war with Sci-Fi Gothic, WW2 and the Stone Ruins
I would be keen to here your feedback on what you think about 3D printed terrain in our hobby and how it will effect the industry. Also your thoughts on the Kickstarter and the models any any ideas for new terain pieces that we could work on while the Kickstarter is running
I backed this. Also backed the last one. -- impressed with the models so far. I would like to see some more parts to the Sci-Fi though and some scifi add-ons maybe
2016/05/27 06:10:21
Subject: Re:3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
I have used a great deal of the terrain produced by this company in a variety of wargames, from 40k to KoW and Frostgrave. Its all excellent stuff and well worth the price of backing.
In my opinion the genres of table top gaming that benefit from this stuff the most are Skirmish and RPGs, the maps you can create with this terrain for both those genres are simply stunning, labyrinthine tunnel networks and sprawling castle halls all make for memorable games nights.
I was able to take a fair few photos the last time i got a chance to use the terrain, if any one is interested those images are here:
I'm honestly considering the purchase of a 3D printer just for these guys' work. Awesome stuff, and the latest back in this kickstarter would be perfect for our AOS tables.
2016/05/27 20:58:22
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
I am at the same point. Not interested in purchasing a 3d printer or learning the programs to go with it, but love a lot of the 3d printable stuff coming out, especially when it can be scaled to 15mm or 28mm and would purchase quality prints.
-James
2016/05/27 23:49:47
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
As you can see here in NZ his 3d terrain is pretty popular. As someone who plays on the stuff weekly I highly recommend it for both RPGs and Wargaming.
2016/05/28 14:22:53
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
@Fireskullz2 & jmurph - Unforunately I don't think Matt at PrintableScenary.com allows anyone to print and sell the models. (We have asked for permission on several occassions to get a license to do exactly that, but never got anywhere with it.) I think the idea is that you have to back the project and THEN you can get someone to print them out for you. Hopefully Matt will post soon to clarify this.
I must say though that these are exceptionally good models (we backed both the initial kickstarter and the Indigogo campaign and hence we are in on this one as well).
2016/05/28 15:53:09
Subject: Re:3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
In my experience of printing out 28mm buildings from the Kickstarter 'Winterdale' and Indiegogo 'Winterdale II' campaigns you should be looking at between 150grams and 250 grams per building on average (but there really is not a 'typical building' ).
I work on the rule of thumb of 5 buildings per roll of PLA filament for 28mm buildings, though of course bigger buildings require more than smaller buildings.
@Matt - it might be an idea when you have the odd hour to spare (like you have so many of those ) for you to include in the descriptions of the models on your website the approx. number of grams of filament required for the model. (This would actually be very helpful to modellers and gamers because then they could schedule ahead what they want to print and prioritise by what they should achieve per roll of filament.)
2016/05/28 16:55:05
Subject: Re:3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
Actually I'm really impressed by this and just downloaded the free walls to look at your work and man are even these simple little things beautiful!
I'm really interested to pledge as I have hobby market in my vicinity who prints on demand but I have some questions first.
- So as a Kickstarter noob I seem to get the stretch goals for the building style I purchased even if they are unlocked at a later time, is that correct?
- Is the awesome pavilion from stretch goal 4 modular?
- Is the ww2 farm modular as well? You can see a detached roof in one of your pictures but could you show some of the other parts?
Playing mostly Necromunda and Battletech, Malifaux is awesome too!
2016/05/28 19:15:51
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
The license allows you to personally print as many copies for yourself as you want.
If you take your license (A copy is emailed to you after purchase) into a printer hub or 3rd party printer, then they will be able to print it for you.
The 3dPrint Hub can email me if they wish and ask me if they can print it. I will let them know that they can print it if they can site the license. This will protect them form 'Property Rights Infringement'.
This is a similar license to Music and Movies, You can make copies for yourself but you cant distribute them.
2016/05/28 20:15:05
Subject: Re:3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
CBRFigs wrote: In my experience of printing out 28mm buildings from the Kickstarter 'Winterdale' and Indiegogo 'Winterdale II' campaigns you should be looking at between 150grams and 250 grams per building on average (but there really is not a 'typical building' )....
You indirectly answered my question by saying you can get 4-5 buildings/kilo.
I get that "it depends" but a guesstimate of 4-5 buildings is good enough for my question.
Thanks.
Thread Slayer
2016/05/29 20:10:34
Subject: Re:3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
Shadox wrote: Actually I'm really impressed by this and just downloaded the free walls to look at your work and man are even these simple little things beautiful!
I'm really interested to pledge as I have hobby market in my vicinity who prints on demand but I have some questions first.
- So as a Kickstarter noob I seem to get the stretch goals for the building style I purchased even if they are unlocked at a later time, is that correct?
- Is the awesome pavilion from stretch goal 4 modular?
- Is the ww2 farm modular as well? You can see a detached roof in one of your pictures but could you show some of the other parts?
@Shadox 1- yes, any stretch goals that are unlocked will be added to your pledge
2- we are planning on doing the Dias as a ground floor, pillars, roof and statue set, so you could print it all bar the statue to make a pavillion
3- the farm itself is a ground, upper floor and roof; though the ruins have both a 3 piece print or sectioned ruins for making custom ruins
hope this helps
Nick, Printable Scenery
2016/05/29 23:17:03
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
Wait, so this is pledging just for the downloadable printer plans, or the actual terrain?
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
2016/05/30 23:34:04
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
Automatically Appended Next Post: I like the idea of the artists getting paid for their work a lot. But it is kinda hard to compete with sites thingniverse etc. with a kickstarter. I would like to buy them perhaps if they are good but kickstarter gives you no guarantee at actually getting the files you are making a donation for nor of the quality of those products and I am not that keen on sinking any money into that site again after the peachy team just admitted they paid themselves instead of the 3d printer parts.
Eh, I've no issues paying for digital products if they're good quality and they don't try any DRM pish. Only reason I'm not backing this is I don't have a 3D printer(we'll see if the Tiko lives up to the promises of being easy to use out-of-the-box and relatively affordable) and all the local services I've looked into would be almost as expensive as just buying really high quality resin buildings.
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2016/05/31 10:37:11
Subject: 3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
Automatically Appended Next Post: I like the idea of the artists getting paid for their work a lot.
But it is kinda hard to compete with sites thingniverse etc. with a kickstarter. I would like to buy them perhaps if they are good but kickstarter gives you no guarantee at actually getting the files you are making a donation for nor of the quality of those products and I am not that keen on sinking any money into that site again after the peachy team just admitted they paid themselves instead of the 3d printer parts.
Can I just say that PrintableScenery.com has already run Winterdale on Kickstarter and delivered on time, has run Winterdale 2 on Indiegogo and delivered on time, and ALL the models have been great, indeed when suggestions for improvements on the models have been made Matt and the team have taken many on board and then subsequently released new files (that is MORE files) and issued them for free to backers.
The quality of the prints obviously depend on the printer used but if you would care to look through the comments on the campaigns on Kickstarter and Indiegogo you will see that the overwhelming comments are praising the quality and delivery time (actually off hand I cannot remember anyone complaining - except perhaps tongue-in-cheek about there being so many great buildings and wanting to print them all out at once). I have backed all three of PrintableScenery.com's campaigns and indeed yesterday bought the .stl files for the Dungeon Tiles and Caverns (not included in any of the campaigns) straight from the PrintableScenery.com website just to make sure I had all their files and can print all of them out (indeed this morning I have just put one of my printers on to printing out the Dungeon Tiles and they are great - as is absolutely normal with their files).
As for what is on Thingiverse (and other sites) the PrintableScenery.com files and models are a quality above those available (I have printed out loads from the internet), but the proof is in just how many returning backers come back and support the company with their crowd funding campaigns. The figures really speak for themselves:
- 'Winterdale' campaign (on Kickstarter) got total funding of NZ$40,074 with 602 backers
- the subsequent 'Winterdale 2' campaign (on Indiegogo) got total funding of NZ$46,500 with 575 backers
- already this 'Apocalypse Ruins' on Kickstarter in the first 5 days has got backing already of NZ$29,349 with 308 backers
This 'Apocalypse Ruins' campaign is likely to be the biggest yet and possibly topping NZ$100k, and the reason for this is pure and simple - gamers love the quality of the products.
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2016/06/01 09:55:08
Subject: Re:3D printed terrain - Thoughts on the new Apocalypse Ruines from Printable Scenery's Kickstarter
If you were in the UK I would be able to help, but postage (and likely import duties) would be a killer for you getting them over to the US.
I know quite a few public libraries in the US now have 3D printers available for public use (and the charges seem to be minimal) or you could look up 3dHubs.com to see if there is someone local to you.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The 'Abby Ruins' stretch goal has now been unlocked.
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) for you to include in the descriptions of the models on your website the approx. number of grams of filament required for the model. (This would actually be very helpful to modellers and gamers because then they could schedule ahead what they want to print and prioritise by what they should achieve per roll of filament.)
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester 
