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2016/06/24 02:40:54
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Personally, orks and imperial guard....
They need more units and formations. Especially the imperial guard...
What do you guys think should get one?
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"We're not just going to shoot the bastards. We're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks."
-The most imperial guard thing ever said.
The one rule I have in my threads: DONT TALK ABOUT THE ABRAMS.
That is it
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2016/06/24 02:47:07
Subject: Re:What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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My selfish desire would be to get the Guard up to date. A little internal balance... a little bit "easier" mobility. Some Rough Riders with Multi-Lasers on them... you know. The new normal.
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2016/06/24 03:14:10
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Adapta Sororitas, because they are currently the oldest codex that has not been updated. Their last physical codex was in 3rd, with a WD update in 5th.
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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2016/06/24 03:34:59
Subject: Re:What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Browsing dakka for 20 minutes will show you what needs an update. Haven't seen a single thread yet where someone hasn't complained about codex imbalance.
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2016/06/24 03:51:26
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Which is rather amusing, because, while dakka is a relatively small percentage of all Warhammer40k players, it still represents the player base rather accurately....and almost all of us have been screaming for some time about codex imbalance, and yet GW has done nothing about it.
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2016/06/24 03:52:40
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Chaos Space Marines.
Their last update was in 2012. They are the main "bad guys" of the franchise. And their lack of parity with vanilla marines is just...very, very evident.
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2016/06/24 04:11:24
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Stalwart Tribune
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All with no formations in the codex
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If you wish to grow wise, learn why brothers betray brothers. |
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2016/06/24 04:46:45
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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1. CSM + Renegades + KDK all need their csm part updated.
2. SOB + GK
3. Orks
4. IG + MT
5. DE
6. Tyranids
Others
Automatically Appended Next Post:
iirc everyone has formations now. Even SOB have 3 formations 1 of which is fairly viable.
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2016/06/24 05:13:12
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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Csm. Then tyranids. Then blood angels. Then dark eldar.
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2016/06/24 06:10:41
Subject: Re:What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Speaking selfishly? Dark Eldar.
Speaking somewhat impartially? Chaos Marines.
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2016/06/24 06:24:31
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I don't disagree with those. But what about Orks?
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2016/06/24 06:39:08
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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jeffersonian000 wrote:Adapta Sororitas, because they are currently the oldest codex that has not been updated. Their last physical codex was in 3rd, with a WD update in 5th.
SJ
Sisters got their Ebook Oct 2013. CSM is Oct 2012, Deamons was March 2013 and are the only 2 dexes not updated that have been released before sisters.
Inquisition was Nov 2013 and needs and update to be more than just coteaz and some chump herding around 3 servoskulls.
As someone who plays CSM, Daemons and Sisters, all of them need an update, though CSM and Sisters for very different reasons compared to Deamons.
koooaei wrote:iirc everyone has formations now. Even SOB have 3 formations 1 of which is fairly viable.
Those 3 are all apoc formations which aren't usable in non apoc games.
Also, inquisition doesn't have one, nor tempestus, nor LotD (though the last one is really pushing it when and army full of superheavies has more variants in it than your "codex"), though they're not "real" armies.
Technically, neither do GK, though their alternate force org Nemesis strikeforce thingy is fairly close.
In answer to the OP though, CSM, IG, DE, Orks, SoB, BA and 'Nids all need help, there's no arguing that. Who needs it most? Probably CSM, though IG and BA are very close seconds. At least DE have CTC and Dark artisan to fall back on, Orks have Bully Boyz in scouting wagons, SoB has Exos and scouting melta doms and 'Nids have flyrants. None of them enough to totally prop up the dex, but enough that they can take on mid tier armies and keep them honest.
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2016/06/24 06:52:39
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dark Eldar, Chaos Marines, Imperial Guard, Orks, and to a lesser extent Tyranids.
In that order of updating. Get to it GW. You've been doing so much good stuff.
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2016/06/24 07:15:55
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Drasius wrote:
Those 3 are all apoc formations which aren't usable in non apoc games.
Also, inquisition doesn't have one, nor tempestus, nor LotD (though the last one is really pushing it when and army full of superheavies has more variants in it than your "codex"), though they're not "real" armies.
Technically, neither do GK, though their alternate force org Nemesis strikeforce thingy is fairly close.
Didn't know about apoc thing. Tempestus have an interesting starter formation of reusable dead squads. Formation for lotd would be...odd to say the least.
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2016/06/24 07:57:36
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Kabalite Conscript
Boston
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Tyranids, CSM, Sororitas, Orks, IG, DE.
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2016/06/24 11:44:30
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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All of them. Literally all of them. At the same time. That is how modern game design works, when you update an edition you update every model in your game instead of crippling your own system by trying to make it backwards compatible.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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2016/06/24 12:04:19
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Either all of them or none of them. I can live with both.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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2016/06/24 12:08:45
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Sisters
Orks
Chaos
In that order
Even though im a devout follower of the dark gods, one is in dire need of love, the other almost unplayable and the final one just lacking flavour.
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2016/06/24 12:17:04
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Dakka Veteran
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Chaos Space Marines
Orks
Imperial Guard
Tyranids
In that order, maybe a little biased Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually I'd sooner a new rules edition but I guess that wasn't the question
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I've been playing a while, my first model was a lead marine and my first White Dwarf was bound with staples |
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2016/06/24 12:27:28
Subject: Re:What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Personally I say CSM for sure, however if they were willing to release a whole new revamped line for the Sisters, they definitely need that love.
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2016/06/24 12:35:55
Subject: Re:What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Chaos Marines, Orks, Tyranids, DE.
But we all know that Space Marines will get an update first, because it's been almost a whole year since their last one, and they're obviously suffering the most right now.
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2016/06/24 12:48:32
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Almost all of them need updating right now.
If I had to pick one I'd say Sisters. They're the worst off.
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2016/06/24 12:58:25
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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CSM just because it sad that the Chaos Space Marine codex's worst units are its CSM units
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2016/06/24 13:13:29
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Space Wolves.
One. Page update: the Space wolves were found traitoris extemis and were purged by the Dark Angels and Grey Knights.
And all of 40k would be better off.
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2016/06/24 13:19:25
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Space marines, Wolves, DA, Necrons eldar and TAU. + all formations they need an update. with huge power adjustments.
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2016/06/24 15:46:28
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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#1: CSM. I think these guys has so much potential.
#2: Tyranids: See above.
Imperials need more solid antagonists than Eldar and Tau.
I'd rank BA dead last in this actually, because I'm at a loss as to what to do. If the disparity between jump packs and bikes remains in 8th, you might as well just squat the BA.
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2016/06/24 15:49:08
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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I am going a different direction.
Tau, Eldar, and Space Marines all need to be increased in points, and like 50% of the space marine formations eliminated.
Half of the issues arise from BS in those three sets of books.
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2016/06/24 15:50:18
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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sfshilo wrote:I am going a different direction.
Tau, Eldar, and Space Marines all need to be increased in points, and like 50% of the space marine formations eliminated.
Half of the issues arise from BS in those three sets of books.
Lots of people want this, but that's not the trend we've seen from GW. Also, most space marine units are quite bad outside an enabling formation. I know this, because that's what BA are.
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2016/06/24 15:51:22
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Fixture of Dakka
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sfshilo wrote:I am going a different direction.
Tau, Eldar, and Space Marines all need to be increased in points, and like 50% of the space marine formations eliminated.
Half of the issues arise from BS in those three sets of books.
I pay enough for my easy to kill elf Infantry thanks.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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2016/06/24 15:52:21
Subject: What codex do you think is in dire need of an update?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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pm713 wrote: sfshilo wrote:I am going a different direction.
Tau, Eldar, and Space Marines all need to be increased in points, and like 50% of the space marine formations eliminated.
Half of the issues arise from BS in those three sets of books.
I pay enough for my easy to kill elf Infantry thanks.
Not enough. Because Imperial heavy weapons are garbage and can't throw enough hurt down the table.
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