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Hello all, I am curious for those who have bought the Collector's Edition of codices in the last year or two if you are happy with your purchase and if so, why or why not. I am thinking of TRYING to get the Genestealer codex this weekend, but at $230 Canadian it will be about $265 with taxes. BUT I do like collecting Collector's Edition. I did try and get the Dark Angels Collector's Edition but wasn't fast enough on the F5 refresh. I wanted that Cypher book even though I bought it on iPad.

So it's scary not knowing what is going to be in the Collector's Edition for Genestealer Cult. I am guessing the cards will be include, hard back box or what ever they are, and what 6 tokens or objective markers. So I don't have a clue what else might be in it.

So I thought I would make sure, for those who bought other Collector's Edition codices, how do you like or enjoy them? Was it worth it to YOU? I can't remember what other goodies came with what, so was it worth the extra cost to get those goodies?

What goodies do you think will come with Genestealer Cult Collector's Edition?

Just want to make sure if I should try or not bother with the Collector's Edition this Saturday and just want to make sure I would be happy with my purchase.

Well in terms of value, they can be horrendously overpriced. Traitor's hate for example is 30 pounds, the cards would add up to about 16 pounds. So you're looking at 46 pound vs 110 of the collectors. Aka the extra art, poster and tokens are somehow worth 64 pound...
Still, the psychic powers and mission cards have all unique art on both sides(?) and overall it looks and feels rather nice. All the cards have gilded gold text/art on the back and the pages of the dex are too. Plus the newer limited editions all come in handy boxes which look a lot better than an individual codex on the shelf. They also come with handy strings to mark a place in the dex, allowing you to immediately skip to the formations, army list or whatever.
The price is ridiculous imho but the product itself is nice and if you're anything like me, your favoured army deserves that little extra treat.
Although if it wasn't for the fact that chaos so rarely get tossed a bone I don't know if I could justify the price. If I was one of those people waiting for genestealer cults though, I probably wouldn't be able to contain my glee and get it anyway.

I feel like I ultimately wasted my money buying the fancy Ork one a couple years back. It's pretty, and the coins are nice, but I don't think the overall value is really there. But, that could also be because the Ork codex ended up being such a disappointment, too.

Especially when you compare to the high quality work Forgeworld does on their big books.

I don't like them.
I'd be really upset if I have to buy a 'Brood Brothers' codex in a few months to make it playable and also a 'From the underdark' campaign book to get all of the dataslates/formations or whatever a few months after that.
The value really isn't there for me, especially when a new edition comes around quickly and makes it obsolete.

Chances are the collectors edition will include the dice but there's a chance that those could just be the Tyranid dice?

I could never justify their price. Either they cost dramatically more than collectors editions from other games or offered far less for the same price. Especially compared with the beautiful Imperial Armour and FFG RPG books.

Yea, they're not all the same. For example I was disappointed that the KDK collectors did not have the blood tithe cards that came with the card set. On the other hand, I thought the brass skull counters for the tithes were sweet lol.
The eldar "wraithbone" tokens were pretty weak, in plastic and low quality compared to the metal ones I've seen.

I have the Warboss Edition Codex. Not only was I chuffed that it was copy 2000 of 2000, but as a collector's item it was worth every penny. Sure, the Codex itself was pretty naff, but the alternate cover art was very nice, alongside receiving the Waaagh! Ghazgkull Supplement early if my memory isn't failing me. The art prints from every previous Codex as well as the polished brass objective tokens rounded it off as a lovely addition to my bookshelf.

However, a noteworthy warning - these things don't exactly have a high quality label on them - I took out my Warboss Edition for a game at someone's house in my backpack. It returned with lots of deep scratches across the box you transport the collection in, with only very light and careful use and carrying. My AM codex sleeve also had bits of the wrap around cloth sticking out when I first got it, and the dust cover stains all by itself. They are certainly lacking in the quality department, and need to be treated with the utmost care as a result of this.

Regardless, I'm pleased with what I got, but I wouldn't buy them unless you really have strong connections with the army you're getting one for, or else you'll probably feel pretty unhappy with the intrinsic value of it - it's value to the heart basically, and quite rightly some people don't like spending a lot for that when they can get something worth a lot more.

G.A

Roknar wrote:
The eldar "wraithbone" tokens were pretty weak, in plastic and low quality compared to the metal ones I've seen.

Worst waste of money I have ever put upon myself. Farseer edition came with:
- psyker cards for ONLY runes of battle/runes of fate powers, so I had to buy the data cards (which also come with the previous 2 disciplines) and the BRB psychic power cards anyway
- stupid little ugly plastic objective tokens
- a "carry case" for the psyker cards and tokens: really just a hardcover book with all the pages swapped for some foam
- the worst put together rendition of a codex I have bought thus far: the pages are only stitched together (where is the glue?) and it's sloppy at that! At the seam between each bundle, the pages will separate up to a freaking half an inch! I barely open the codex out of fear that the string will snap and send my pages all over the place. And get a replacement? Nope. It's limitted ed. I'm stuck with what I've got unless I buy the regular book at another $50.
- a "carry case" that fits the codex and the "carry case" for the tokens.

Yeah, massive disappointment. I'm a hardcore collector (of CWE), and I am never buying one of those garbage "collector's codexes" ever again.

*seethes*

I apologize for any perceived agression. I paid $60 extra for some gakky plastic chunks, all of 12 cards, some gold guilded page edges, some carboard, and a number on a box. It kind of makes me angry.

I have not bought into the collector's edition, for one primary reason.

What value do you see it having when it is replaced with the next iteration of the codex, in 2-3 years?

That alone is the reason I have not bought into any of GW's collector's edition - I know in too short a time, it will be replaced with yet another version, or made obsolete with some supplement or other.

 Stormonu wrote:
I have not bought into the collector's edition, for one primary reason.

What value do you see it having when it is replaced with the next iteration of the codex, in 2-3 years?

That alone is the reason I have not bought into any of GW's collector's edition - I know in too short a time, it will be replaced with yet another version, or made obsolete with some supplement or other.

That's only true if you play an imperial dex xD

 Stormonu wrote:
I have not bought into the collector's edition, for one primary reason.

What value do you see it having when it is replaced with the next iteration of the codex, in 2-3 years?

That alone is the reason I have not bought into any of GW's collector's edition - I know in too short a time, it will be replaced with yet another version, or made obsolete with some supplement or other.

This is essentially the point I was making at the end of my first post - if you can't see the value beyond the rules within the Codex and their inevitable expiration, then a Collector's Edition is not for you.

And no, this isn't that ridiculous entitled argument of "you just don't understand" - some people will value the books themselves and any additional art they get as being worth the inevitability of the Codex expiring, whereas others will not. You aren't wrong to think either way; spend your money how you see fit on these things, if you end up spending anything at all. Just be sure you're an avid collector of whatever army you're buying the book for, and that you find more value in the tangible artwork than the practicality of the set.

Not GW stuff. No way. Too overpriced for what you get.

It's possible to buy a nice piece of art with a warhammer theme for the same price.
Even prints from GW artists aren't that expensive.
It's yours for keeps and might even grow in value rather than nosedive after the next edition.

 General Annoyance wrote:

And no, this isn't that ridiculous entitled argument of "you just don't understand" - some people will value the books themselves and any additional art they get as being worth the inevitability of the Codex expiring, whereas others will not. You aren't wrong to think either way; spend your money how you see fit on these things, if you end up spending anything at all. Just be sure you're an avid collector of whatever army you're buying the book for, and that you find more value in the tangible artwork than the practicality of the set.

Honestly, if GW's collector's stuff was not such an obvious cash-grab, I might have kept buying them.

Is asking for a nicely constructed book so entitled? That was really the thing that unraveled the whole bit for me - and i'm one of the crazy people that went back and bought the hilariously overpriced Bonesinger limited release model. If the quality of their collector's eds were an acceptable standard, not falling apart because they are so slapped-together, I might be a bit more inclined to give it another chance.

If Roundtree keeps the good will going, I will look at it, but there's going to be a hell of a lot more analysis this time.

I picked up the Chaos Daemon limited Curse of the Wulfen set and really dig the mini codex, cards and markers. My only complaint is that the additional formations were included in an additional softback booklet.

I've never understood how people justify buying them myself.

The Cult Genestealers is the first I have been tempted to get. I'm hardcor Tyranid since 2nd Ed though I left at the end of 4th and came back at then beginning of 6th. I have never once been tempted until now... I missed out on cult genestealers back in the day and have regretted it ever since. I though it would be too much trouble to get all the models ordered ect and was happly stomping people with my nids. The Gohsar Quintis formation got me back into the hobby and I guess I'm willing to take the plunge for more cultists.

I bought the LE version of the 6th ed rulebook.
It is very well made, with more ribbon bookmarks, gold edging on the pages, embossed cover, and really nice paper. The box is good too, showing off the book cover through the holes.

But, as 7th rolled in so fast, it did not keep up with the releases, and by the time the proper codexes turned up, it was time for a new rule book.

I'm considering it for genestealer cults.

I got the collectors editions of the FFG RPG books, and love them, but as noted the lifespan of the codices, plus their sheer cost, makes me hesitate.

The Ork one was the last one I got.

Thank you everyone for your comments. Greatly appreciated. I am a Tyranid player and a Dark Angel player as I said, so I really like Stealers and Genestealer Cult.

I just wished we knew ahead of time what was in it. I guess being in Canada I do get a few hour preview since what, tonight it will be on the Aussie or New Zealand sites? So what time EST would that be? I don't know when Aussies and New Zealand get their sites updated at.


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Another quick question. GW still offers the money back guarantee on Collector's Edition as well? So if I don't feel I got my monies worth, I can return it right?

Davor wrote:


Another quick question. GW still offers the money back guarantee on Collector's Edition as well? So if I don't feel I got my monies worth, I can return it right?

Believe so - don't think the LE's are an exception to their return policy

If you're really lucky you'll get the old Tyranid dice in the set.
Ironically it would make sense as the Cult is still in embryo at that stage.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/627331.page

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
If you're really lucky you'll get the old Tyranid dice in the set.
Ironically it would make sense as the Cult is still in embryo at that stage.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/627331.page

That would be nice. I have them, both of them already. Can always use more.


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 General Annoyance wrote:

Davor wrote:


Another quick question. GW still offers the money back guarantee on Collector's Edition as well? So if I don't feel I got my monies worth, I can return it right?

Believe so - don't think the LE's are an exception to their return policy

Thank you for the reply. It's more reassuring hen making a big purchase like this that if I am not happy with it, I can get my money back.

I have bought most le editions. The fact that two of them were obsolete in less than 18 months was a bit upsetting, but they are still grest for reading and collecting.

The best by far were the dark angels, necron, deathwatch, and tau campaign editions. Close runner ups are the space wolf wolf guard edition, deamonkin, and tau ghost keel book.

I preferred the old le books as they were $100 for a better quality and unique book. Now they are $190 on average and include different art psychic and objective cards, a poster, and some metal coins. Not sure those are worth the extra hundred, esp since the content of the book's pages are the exact same.

 455_PWR wrote:
I have bought most le editions. The fact that two of them were obsolete in less than 18 months was a bit upsetting, but they are still grest for reading and collecting.

The best by far were the dark angels, necron, deathwatch, and tau campaign editions. Close runner ups are the space wolf wolf guard edition, deamonkin, and tau ghost keel book.

I preferred the old le books as they were $100 for a better quality and unique book. Now they are $190 on average and include different art psychic and objective cards, a poster, and some metal coins. Not sure those are worth the extra hundred, esp since the content of the book's pages are the exact same.

What two books would that be?

I like the old Limited Edition books but better quality? I bought the Tyranid Limited Edition book. Was hard to swallow the almost double the price for a different cover. But as I said I love Nids so I am glad I did get it. Thing is the quality is not that good. Just sitting in my book case it warped after a few months and the black outlining on the pages flaked off. That too me is not high quality. I never used it. Only read it twice when I first got it, but bought the iPad version so I could keep that book in prime condition. I was so upset that the quality wasn't there for not using a book.

I called GW Customer Service and they fixed the problem for me. Got to love GW Customer Service.

I meant they were better quality than the origional codex books. 7th edition books are made of similar materials, but with extras that are sometimes unnecessary, like coins, cards, posters, etc, that double the price of the le book.

Many of the 6th edition books were made of different material. The dark angels book had a durable fabric cover with silver writing, others like the space marine codex had a softer feel cover. Yes all one really got was a different cover (sometimes made from a different material), colored page edges, and a slipcase, but they were better quality overall than the origional production hc books.

The tyranid one... not so much. That's why it sells for peanuts online. Cool book nonetheless.

The 7th edition le books are also better quality and most of them are made from different (thicker) paper, soft feel covers (scratch easily though... but I don't use my le books for gaming, just for reading) metal guiding (silver ink, gold edges, bronze leafing, etc).

I've never had a le book damaged or faulty like that. My 7th edition le marine successors book did have some minor mars on its cover, from the factory, but it was sold out so I just kept it anyway. I guess they are all made in a factory by faulty humans, so there will be some issues here and there no matter what.

The only codex I had that was really damaged was a dark angels 7th edition normal codex. It had town page edges where they weren't cut right from the factory. They sent me a new codex after I sent them pics of the damage too.

I can't blame someone for spending money on something they really truly like...but I'd have to be absolutely in love with something to justify anywhere near that much money (and it damn well better be an exceptionally well made product at that point).

I have to agree though with the problem of buying something which will be outdated or FAQ'ed to pieces or incomplete within a year or two. The turnover cycle on GW is increasing rapidly and that would hinder any kind of decision to buy something like that.

I'd be more comfortable spending money on an older codex if I played a certain edition, or paying for something like Jess Goodwin's sketchbook art, etc.

Yowzars... nearly 400$ (Canadian) for the LE GS cult book. I want it but I'd need to sell an organ...... guess I'll have to make due with the regular.

I got the LE IA:13 and for only £5 more than the regular version I got a large map, meh but nice to have as it looks good, but also a hard and durable sleeve to keep it in safe and sound from bumps and knocks. Well worth it imho.

Looks kinda cool though. They should have added the dice for that price mind you.