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unlike others, moonclan grots description just said "a few". so how many is exactly a few?

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In this case you are safe to field as many as you have the bitz for. Unless it says specifically "One may instead equip..." blahblah etc or "The leader has..." yadayada it's player's choice.

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You can legally equip every single grot in the unit with nets, for free. This is what makes moonclan grots potentially among the most OP units in the game, balanced only by the sheer impracticality of doing so.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
You can legally equip every single grot in the unit with nets, for free. This is what makes moonclan grots potentially among the most OP units in the game, balanced only by the sheer impracticality of doing so.


Come on Ninth, up your game with some greenstuff molds and win next year's Adepticon with an army of net spam! I'll be cheering you on :-)

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Yeah, from a fluff standpoint, if we consider all the grots that exist in the AoS universe, even if you made an army of 1,000 net-grots, it could still safely be described as "a few out of all grots"
   
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 Bottle wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
You can legally equip every single grot in the unit with nets, for free. This is what makes moonclan grots potentially among the most OP units in the game, balanced only by the sheer impracticality of doing so.


Come on Ninth, up your game with some greenstuff molds and win next year's Adepticon with an army of net spam! I'll be cheering you on :-)
Well I could pull off 20 nets with what I have but that isn't quite 60 I suppose I could net some easy counts-as by using scuttlings from silver tower.

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I think this is one of those examples where the answer is that you can use an entire unit full of net wielding Grots BUT it's not unreasonable to expect accurate WYSIWYG with official models or good looking conversions.

I think if someone took a regular unit, cut up some mesh fabric and just glued a small square to each spear wielding Grot, I'd probably roll my eyes a bit. If you want this sort of unit, you should have to jump through some hoops (buying models, properly converting models, etc) to get it.

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I'm thinking even "rolled up" nets or ropes made from greenstuff and then attached to the model would be acceptable. If modelled appropriately.
   
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There is also another limiting factor in that only one instance of the unit is extremely OP, because at bravery 4 they kinda need their inspiring presence. A second, third, etc 60-block with all nets would still be insanely good but not the game-breaking level that the first one is.

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So asking around.. I'm told that "a few" is actually an idiom for "3" ... as in "a single" is one, "a couple" is 2, and "a few" is 3


If we take the wording literally, only 3 should be given nets.

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 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
So asking around.. I'm told that "a few" is actually an idiom for "3" ... as in "a single" is one, "a couple" is 2, and "a few" is 3

If we take the wording literally, only 3 should be given nets.


That might be a regional thing, but I've never heard it before. Strictly speaking, few just means a small number. Heck, it's even synonymous with "a couple", "one or two" and "two or three". It's definitely not defined as three.

few
fyo͞o/
adjective & pronoun
determiner: few; adjective: few; comparative adjective: fewer; superlative adjective: fewest
1.
a small number of.
"may I ask a few questions?"
synonyms: a small number, a handful, one or two, a couple, two or three; More
not many, hardly any
"there weren't many biscuits, but we saved you a few"

A small number is going to be arbitrary. Is 3 a small number? Sure. Is 60 a small number? Sure, in the greater context of an enormous Grot war horde, 60 Grots with nets is just a few when compared to the whole.

The obvious authorial inspiration for using the word "few" is that the Grots box comes with a "few" netters and the authors probably thought "a few" would be sufficient to communicate that you can use the bits in the box to add netters or not as you see fit. In most cases they say things like "one out of every five models can be...". They could easily have said "4 out of 20 every Grots can carry nets..." or something similar if they wanted a hard limit, but the wording they chose is more relaxed.

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Yeah they really should have said 1 per 5, and I'd hope that gets edited in the future. Though if Moonclan gets a battletome (*drools a little*) they may split netters into their own unit for all we know!

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Yeah they really should have said 1 per 5, and I'd hope that gets edited in the future. Though if Moonclan gets a battletome (*drools a little*) they may split netters into their own unit for all we know!


I actually like the idea of splitting the different weapon configurations out as different Warscrolls. They've been pretty inconsistent about it. Stormcast Judicators and Liberators are effectively the same unit with different weapon options, yet have different Warscrolls.

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I take 10, regardless of unit size. Keep them on the front line, put spears behind. You lose the shield bonus at 9, so once all your spear grots are gone it's all netters!
But yes, the way it is worded you can have all but one grot holding a net in your unit. Very ambiguous.
   
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 Furious241 wrote:
I take 10, regardless of unit size. Keep them on the front line, put spears behind. You lose the shield bonus at 9, so once all your spear grots are gone it's all netters!
But yes, the way it is worded you can have all but one grot holding a net in your unit. Very ambiguous.


Why all but one? Which grot can't carry a net?

Also, it's not very ambiguous at all... just poorly defined. As it stands, you can clearly equip anywhere from none to all. Both options would constitute a few grots in the greater context of the thousands of grots in an average fluff army.

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Except in a unit "a few" isn't the whole unit.

Fluff also does not constitute rules, so it being a few in the grand scheme of things means nothing.

In tournaments I've always come across netters in mass.
Some will run 5 or so in a unit while most run around 75% with the remaining 25% with spears.


Either way, they are good but not game breaking.

   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
You can legally equip every single grot in the unit with nets, for free. This is what makes moonclan grots potentially among the most OP units in the game, balanced only by the sheer impracticality of doing so.


Well, during the great rage quit i bought up to 30 netter for a penny each.

Now I run 2x40 grots units, with 20 nets/20 spears.

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