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So I noticed the awesome figure that is the Chaos Lord guy, resting on his sword and spear. I checked out his rules and his ability to explode into a Daemon Prince if he kills an enemy general or explode into a Chaos Spawn if he dies. He's only 100pts too. Has anyone else used him or faced him? Is he worth taking?

Cheers all

Yes, he is awesome.

I run him in a 1000 pts army slaanesh teamed as general to give the run and charge stuff to one extra unit.

The spawn thing is lost as you need reinforcement points for it. But the Daemon prince explosion is without reinforcement points as you replace a living model.

Also the release the daemon from his blade stuff has massacred many enemies on occasion.

He is also a great asset in bigger games. And you do not to make him your general he is great support for your troops on a flank too.

In really big games, you can field Archaon and have several with different marks (or the same if you like cheese) to give a different bonus to different units when archaon triggers his ability.

Awesome. He's a really cool model so I was going to use him anyway, but knowing he's useful makes it all the better haha.

Quick question though (sorry if it's nooby), what are reinforcement points, and what decides how many you get? I must've missed that bit in the rules

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Awesome. He's a really cool model so I was going to use him anyway, but knowing he's useful makes it all the better haha.

Quick question though (sorry if it's nooby), what are reinforcement points, and what decides how many you get? I must've missed that bit in the rules

Well it is in the GHB . If you play unbound you need not worry, but in matched play, you have to set aside points to bring in models to A: replace models that have died or B:add new units to your army by the use of abilities. (like command abilities, summoning etc) you have to mark the points on your armylist as an entry, (not the units that you plan on summoning)

So everything you bring into play does cost points, on the other hand if you play death or Tzeentch Daemons you can play a 5000 battle with 2000 pts and just add 3000 in reinforcement,and resummon what dies (not that that would be advisable).

Ah cool that makes sense, thanks

 minisnatcher wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Awesome. He's a really cool model so I was going to use him anyway, but knowing he's useful makes it all the better haha.

Quick question though (sorry if it's nooby), what are reinforcement points, and what decides how many you get? I must've missed that bit in the rules

Well it is in the GHB . If you play unbound you need not worry, but in matched play, you have to set aside points to bring in models to A: replace models that have died or B:add new units to your army by the use of abilities. (like command abilities, summoning etc) you have to mark the points on your armylist as an entry, (not the units that you plan on summoning)

So everything you bring into play does cost points, on the other hand if you play death or Tzeentch Daemons you can play a 5000 battle with 2000 pts and just add 3000 in reinforcement,and resummon what dies (not that that would be advisable).

You DO NOT have to set aside points to replace models if there are still models left in the unit, and you are simply adding models to that unit up to the original size. For example:

Morbidex Twiceborn can add D3 Nurgling bases to a unit of Nurglings that has suffered casualties, but hasn't been wiped out. He can only do this up to the original starting size of the unit, however.

Not trying to be one of those "actually..." guys on the internet. Just clarifying, because I see a lot of people shortchange themselves on this technicality.

 brassangel wrote:

 minisnatcher wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Awesome. He's a really cool model so I was going to use him anyway, but knowing he's useful makes it all the better haha.

Quick question though (sorry if it's nooby), what are reinforcement points, and what decides how many you get? I must've missed that bit in the rules

Well it is in the GHB . If you play unbound you need not worry, but in matched play, you have to set aside points to bring in models to A: replace models that have died or B:add new units to your army by the use of abilities. (like command abilities, summoning etc) you have to mark the points on your armylist as an entry, (not the units that you plan on summoning)

So everything you bring into play does cost points, on the other hand if you play death or Tzeentch Daemons you can play a 5000 battle with 2000 pts and just add 3000 in reinforcement,and resummon what dies (not that that would be advisable).

You DO NOT have to set aside points to replace models if there are still models left in the unit, and you are simply adding models to that unit up to the original size. For example:

Morbidex Twiceborn can add D3 Nurgling bases to a unit of Nurglings that has suffered casualties, but hasn't been wiped out. He can only do this up to the original starting size of the unit, however.

Not trying to be one of those "actually..." guys on the internet. Just clarifying, because I see a lot of people shortchange themselves on this technicality.

Funnily enough I was just looking over the rules before and noticed that it says "replacing dead figures to replenish the squad doesn't cost. It's only adding to the unit capacity that does" (something along those lines). So he's tons of value for his point cost haha. Either he dies and becomes a pretty beastly unit or he kills the enemy hero and becomes a super beastly unit. Seems pretty awesome to me haha

 Tiberius501 wrote:

Funnily enough I was just looking over the rules before and noticed that it says "replacing dead figures to replenish the squad doesn't cost. It's only adding to the unit capacity that does" (something along those lines). So he's tons of value for his point cost haha. Either he dies and becomes a pretty beastly unit or he kills the enemy hero and becomes a super beastly unit. Seems pretty awesome to me haha

Well not quite, it works for the Daemon prince that way without having to pay points, but for the spawn you need to pay 60 reinforcement points

GHB p 108:

Sometines a spell or ability will allow you to add units to your army, or replace units that have been destroyed. In a pitched battle, you must set aside some of your points in order to be able to use these units.

The glory or damnation ability clearly states that you replace the chaos lord when he is slain... But still, awesome model, and if you play combi with daemons and gonna use summoning, sometimes the 60 pts may be worth it, popping out an objective grabber out of nowhere