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Made in bg
Been Around the Block






Chaos warband

Chaos space marines - 5 men
Dedicated transport rhino with dozer blades

Chaos space marines - 5 men
Dedicated transport rhino with dozer blades

Havocs - 5 men 4x autocannons

Chaos terminators - 3 men 2x power axes, 1 chain fist and 3x combi plasmas

Chaos bikers - 10 men 2x meltas champion with combi melta and power fist

Chaos lord - bike, combi melta, power fist , storm bolt plate, 4++

Chaos sorcerer - bike, force axe, vox dominacus, ml lvl 3, spell familiar


Heldrake terror pack

Heldrake - baleflamer
Heldrake - baleflamer


Black legion formation detachment

Cyclopia cabal

Chaos sorcerer - bike, force axe, ml lvl 3, spell familiar
Chaos sorcerer - bike, force axe, ml lvl 3, spell familiar
Chaos sorcerer - bike, force axe, ml lvl 3, spell familiar

I've been poking the bear around tinkering on my Night lords detachment I tried not to go for a death star but I just need a very reliable unit so here it is and please tell me how would you tinker with the list.
I have a combi melta and a power fist on the biker champion which I would swap out for something that I can find worth in but I just do not see something else that may give me any sort of an edge.
Also the combi melta on the champion seems a bit redundant but still there is nothing to invest those 10 points in. I wonder weather or not to give all my sorcerers 5++ for these points but if I have to rely on this 5++ they are as good as dead.
So tell me what do you think?
   
Made in gb
Lesser Daemon of Chaos





West Yorkshire

Doesn't seem too bad. A lot more sorcerers than I would expect in a Night Lord list. The only thing I might be tempted to do if I were to use this would be to use the 10pts spent on the melta gun to be able to split the bikers into 2x5 man units. one runs the night lord chaos lord and the night lord sorcerer, the other runs with the Cyclopia Cabal to make it less of a big blob unit that gets caught up on everything (I'm assuming all 3 Black legion sorcerers, the night lord sorcerer and the lord would join the bikers, making for a 15 strong unit that would be the equivalent of a full on cavalry charge but you'll be too big for your own good in this type of game and more than likely to draw an undue amount of firepower).
Also regarding the 5++, you never take it as a lifesaver to rely on, you take it as a last resort you hope you have to use sparingly. the 4++ is the better choice if you can afford it despite it being only a difference of 1 but it makes a fair difference in my opinion.

5000pts W4/ D0/ L5
5000pts W10/ D2/ L7
 
   
Made in bg
Been Around the Block






I dislike the amount of sercerers myself but in order stay in the fight I really need the star. I cannot split the star because the idea behind the star is to get invis on everyone and 4++ fnp and ETW and then if I have any sorcerers left to go for hammer hand or rerollable saves or something like that.
It is quite disgusting but I just do not see what else can I do. I prefer to play msu style myself but in the current meta I feel like this is something that will give me a fighting chance.
   
 
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