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From here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/22/gathering-storm-ii-first-look/
*also, if anyone knows how to re-size pics in forum code I'd be very appreciative!

Yncarne - Avatar of Ynnead


Yvraine - Emissary of Ynnead (or 'not-Malys' as I've taken to calling her)


The Visarch - Sword of Ynnead (otherwise known as 'not-Yriel')


My thoughts below:
Spoiler:
exactly what I expected, having seen what Cawl and Celestine look like, and seeing the general direction of 40k models towards more bling. My first gut reaction was 'these models do nothing for me'.

Then, I thought 'hang on, I've never liked named characters in general. Perhaps it's just that bias. Look at them again Ynneadwraith. Properly this time'.

Now, they're definitely growing on me I really like the whole oriental-morphine-den-matriarch look of 'not-Malys'. Love that she walks around barefoot too. Very Lelith. Very Dark Eldar

Not-Yriel was the one I was happiest with on the first viewing, and I've stayed happy the more I've looked him. If I get them I shall shave off his weird bat-ears, paint him a different colour and be very happy with the model

I'm conflicted about the Avatar of Ynnead. I love the Slaaneshi connection, but without seeing the background fluff I can't help but feel like they've missed a trick (or got it slightly skee-wiff). The model would fit absolutely perfectly as a 'High Solitaire', given that it's implied that Solitaires' powers come from stealing a little bit of Slaanesh's power. The quasi-daemonic look is utterly perfect for that. Saying that, I think it's the colour that's putting me off slightly. Repainted in bone-white and ash grey it would look awesome as the herald of the nascent Chaos God of Death (which is pretty much what the Eldar are birthing).

Provided they're not wallet-ruiningly expensive I shall buy them! I like not-Malys, and not-Yriel, and the High Solitaire (going to call him that from now on) would make the perfect basis for my Croneworld unfettered Eldar psyker (counts-as Lord of Change).

Might have to buy two of him so I can do the bone-coloured paint scheme

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I dont like The Avatar of Ynnead. Too busy. All that crapp swirling arount the model looks silly. I have never been too fond of the psychic aspect of the game anyway. Its way over the top and reminds me of AoS.

The other two models are great.

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 Kellevil wrote:
I dont like The Avatar of Ynnead. Too busy. All that crapp swirling arount the model looks silly. I have never been too fond of the psychic aspect of the game anyway. Its way over the top and reminds me of AoS.

The other two models are great.


This; the lady is still inferior to the DE Lhamia but is ok. The red guy is awesome and a good Archon, possibly.
If there is a chance to buy them all separated, I will buy him. If GW wants to play "smart", no money for them.

Also... the models scream "end of times" or "AoS" to me because albeit 2 out of 3 do not look overdesigned, the wonky proportions more suitable for WoW or warmachine are creeping in. That, the these whirls nice of a diorama conversion but disgusting on a model without the option of a smaller base (see FW primarchs).

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 Kaiyanwang wrote:
 Kellevil wrote:
I dont like The Avatar of Ynnead. Too busy. All that crapp swirling arount the model looks silly. I have never been too fond of the psychic aspect of the game anyway. Its way over the top and reminds me of AoS.

The other two models are great.


This; the lady is still inferior to the DE Lhamia but is ok. The red guy is awesome and a good Archon.
If there is a chance to buy them all separated, I will buy him. If GW wants to play "smart", no money for them.

Also... the models scream "end of times" or "AoS" to me because albeit 2 out of 3 do not look overdesigned, the wonky proportions more suitable for WoW or warmachine are creeping in. That, the these whirls nice of a diorama conversion but disgusting on a model without the option of a smaller base (see FW primarchs).


1) This whole thing has been screaming end times for the last few months.
2) They will play smart. It is the exact same setup as the first box, with Cawl, Celestine and Greyfax. This isn't a guess, this is how it is.
3) I'm glad the first box was so awesome, because I really can't see why this box is getting the love it's getting.
4) I find the two you guys like to be boring, and the only one worthy of the box is the busy god that the've created.
5) that open mouth at the crotch of the red guy just looks so unfortunately placed to me.

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The moment the visual effects on a model take up most of it and draw the attention away, I don't like it.

Why go to the effort of sculpting a great model then slapping a load of swirling crap over it, covering the great looking model?
Without all that, I'd love the model.
But as it stands they have overdone it by a long shot.

The not malys model will make me a nice inquisitor anyway so I'll take that.
Red guy in general looks pretty solid, so I'll buy him for painting.


Since I'll end up buying the set for those 2, I may hold a ceremonial acetone melting for the avatar of SFX.

   
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 Kellevil wrote:
I dont like The Avatar of Ynnead. Too busy. All that crapp swirling arount the model looks silly. I have never been too fond of the psychic aspect of the game anyway. Its way over the top and reminds me of AoS.

The other two models are great.


That was my initial thought as well. Exactly as expected, seeing as how over-the-top mechanical Cawl was (which fits TBH, I really like the Cawl model). 'More bling' seems to be the general direction new models are going in.

Saying that, the more I've looked the more it's grown on me.

Imagine him painted in a really low-contrast style. All bone-white (including the psychic swirls), with ash-grey skin. Very sparse deep red accents for the soulstones (maybe not painting all of the soulstones in red, just select ones). Much, much better and I'm someone who loathes business of design where it's not warranted.

Curious about 'wonky proportion setting in'. What's wonky about these guys? I thought they were quite good. As for 'setting in' they're still making plastic Catachans so historically the starting point is set pretty low for wonky proportions...

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 Purifier wrote:
 Kaiyanwang wrote:
 Kellevil wrote:
I dont like The Avatar of Ynnead. Too busy. All that crapp swirling arount the model looks silly. I have never been too fond of the psychic aspect of the game anyway. Its way over the top and reminds me of AoS.

The other two models are great.


This; the lady is still inferior to the DE Lhamia but is ok. The red guy is awesome and a good Archon.
If there is a chance to buy them all separated, I will buy him. If GW wants to play "smart", no money for them.

Also... the models scream "end of times" or "AoS" to me because albeit 2 out of 3 do not look overdesigned, the wonky proportions more suitable for WoW or warmachine are creeping in. That, the these whirls nice of a diorama conversion but disgusting on a model without the option of a smaller base (see FW primarchs).


1) This whole thing has been screaming end times for the last few months.
2) They will play smart. It is the exact same setup as the first box, with Cawl, Celestine and Greyfax. This isn't a guess, this is how it is.
3) I'm glad the first box was so awesome, because I really can't see why this box is getting the love it's getting.
4) I find the two you guys like to be boring, and the only one worthy of the box is the busy god that the've created.
5) that open mouth at the crotch of the red guy just looks so unfortunately placed to me.


Haha! I didnt notice it until you mentioned it but that is indeed an unfortunate cod piece!

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I think they look amazing, and I have just the other day (before the announcement I swear) decided to start Eldar so seeing this was like "Guess I chose well"

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I’m planning on passing.

The designs are more Dark Eldar then Craftworld. Nothing wrong with that, just would not match my army.

I like the red guy. For a foot based archon-type, he’s pretty cool. If his rules meshed with what I’m fielding, I could see playing him. Nice model.

The Lady is a bit odd. She looks like a Dark Eldar that went to an imperial costume ball. Most Eldar fashions are more about flowing lines and grace, not corsets and structured skirts. And that headgear is over the top. I know this is 40k, and baroque over the top is the norm, but I think that’s a little to far. Not way over the top, just a hair.

Not a huge fan of Mr. Swirly. I know the Avatars are technically demons, but he’s taking it a little too far. You could field him as-is in a chaos army and nobody would bat an eye. I think there is some potential there, but it would take more kitbashing then I’m capable to get it out of him.

From a mechanics POV, I have no space for them. I play Saim-Hann. Getting mud on your boots is for lesser races. 3/3 foot based characters. While I’m not opposed to cramming things into wave serpents/falcons, generally that’s not the best place for HQs or choppy guys. And I’m guessing the avatar wouldn’t fit, and don’t know about the cat. They do bad things to the upholstery.


   
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The Sword of Ynnead could make a great Corsair Prince, just need to fix the backpack and helm. Other then that some things could of went better, I'm going to pin it on the awkwardness of blending Eldar with Dark Eldar though for the sculptor. Having to OD it do to the Ynnead's importance didn't help them ether. The geming effect & leather strapping effect is pretty sick love those. Not big on the hair piece, corset, and the swirl effect.
   
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I love all three of them. I can't wait to see more! I hope their rules are as good as their models.

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 Nevelon wrote:
I’m planning on passing.

The designs are more Dark Eldar then Craftworld. Nothing wrong with that, just would not match my army.

I like the red guy. For a foot based archon-type, he’s pretty cool. If his rules meshed with what I’m fielding, I could see playing him. Nice model.

The Lady is a bit odd. She looks like a Dark Eldar that went to an imperial costume ball. Most Eldar fashions are more about flowing lines and grace, not corsets and structured skirts. And that headgear is over the top. I know this is 40k, and baroque over the top is the norm, but I think that’s a little to far. Not way over the top, just a hair.

Not a huge fan of Mr. Swirly. I know the Avatars are technically demons, but he’s taking it a little too far. You could field him as-is in a chaos army and nobody would bat an eye. I think there is some potential there, but it would take more kitbashing then I’m capable to get it out of him.

From a mechanics POV, I have no space for them. I play Saim-Hann. Getting mud on your boots is for lesser races. 3/3 foot based characters. While I’m not opposed to cramming things into wave serpents/falcons, generally that’s not the best place for HQs or choppy guys. And I’m guessing the avatar wouldn’t fit, and don’t know about the cat. They do bad things to the upholstery.



Yeah all these thoughts ran through my head too. Almost to the letter, apart from I like the blended CWE/DE aesthetic.

Then, I took a second look. I spotted the bare feet on not-Malys, echoing Lelith. I noticed that the overall theme is following on from Malys' fan aesthetic, expanding it into a sort of oriental matriarch look. I remembered that the Eldar aren't activating some long-forgotten superweapon, they're literally birthing another Chaos God out of sheer desperation, hence the daemonic nature of the Avatar. I noticed that the issue with Mr Swirly isn't necessarily the business so much as that paint job emphasising the business.

Didn't notice 'Mr O-face' on not-Yriel's crotch though...

That's a problem.

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I wonder if we are going to start seeing Formations that include both Eldar and Dark Eldar... Aedlari as it were.
   
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 Ynneadwraith wrote:

I can sense a dremel and some GS incoming


... to give it a suspiciously round tongue dangling out of the mouth?

 
   
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I personally love the mouth crotch, don't know what you guys have against it.
   
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 kingbobbito wrote:
I personally love the mouth crotch, don't know what you guys have against it.


Either the most innocent or the kinkiest person on the internet.

 
   
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 Jackal wrote:
The moment the visual effects on a model take up most of it and draw the attention away, I don't like it.

Why go to the effort of sculpting a great model then slapping a load of swirling crap over it, covering the great looking model?
Without all that, I'd love the model.
But as it stands they have overdone it by a long shot.

The not malys model will make me a nice inquisitor anyway so I'll take that.
Red guy in general looks pretty solid, so I'll buy him for painting.


Since I'll end up buying the set for those 2, I may hold a ceremonial acetone melting for the avatar of SFX.


Yeah that's my default position too. Seeing it for the first time my initial thought was 'what is this discordant mess?'

However, I have warmed to it. The paint does absolutely nothing to disguise the business of the design, but if done right I think it could be really damn cool (and I normally dislike fussy designs).

We'll see if the image I have for it lives up to reality...

 Purifier wrote:
 Ynneadwraith wrote:

I can sense a dremel and some GS incoming


... to give it a suspiciously round tongue dangling out of the mouth?


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If it wasn't for the weird slaanesh horn thing coming out of the Avatar's head, I could handle the rest. The other 2 mini's are kinda cool, and are going to fit nicely into my 'Halloween Themed' Eldar army (since Ynaed was their focus of worship anyways). I'm hoping to see some rules for Eldar that will make what I've been trying to do with Craftworld rules, work better.
   
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I love all 3 models, Malys in particular looks amazing, though I might cut off the excessive headgear.
   
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Ravingbantha wrote:
If it wasn't for the weird slaanesh horn thing coming out of the Avatar's head, I could handle the rest. The other 2 mini's are kinda cool, and are going to fit nicely into my 'Halloween Themed' Eldar army (since Ynaed was their focus of worship anyways). I'm hoping to see some rules for Eldar that will make what I've been trying to do with Craftworld rules, work better.


I was iffy on the daemonic horn thing on the Ynneadvatar as well, until the lightbulb moment when it dawned on me that the Eldar are literally birthing a Chaos God of Death. Then the whole daemonic nature thing makes absolute sense.

 Imateria wrote:
I love all 3 models, Malys in particular looks amazing, though I might cut off the excessive headgear.


I was thinking the same thing with the head-gear, but I'll let you do it first! my own personal touch might be to try and cut back the train on the dress slightly. I'm planning on painting the dress as if it's made of the same flayed skin as my Archon's skin-cloak, and my Kabalites' tabards, so a bit of a ragged edge should fit nicely will be a bit of a heart-stopping moment though, given that the kit's probably going to be circa £50 judging by the IoM Triumvirate...

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These models, for me, are not only a "pass" but combined with Wrath of Magnus, the fall of Cadia triumverate, it's a warning to get out of 40K now.

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 Ynneadwraith wrote:

I was iffy on the daemonic horn thing on the Ynneadvatar as well, until the lightbulb moment when it dawned on me that the Eldar are literally birthing a Chaos God of Death. Then the whole daemonic nature thing makes absolute sense.

 Imateria wrote:
I love all 3 models, Malys in particular looks amazing, though I might cut off the excessive headgear.


I was thinking the same thing with the head-gear, but I'll let you do it first! my own personal touch might be to try and cut back the train on the dress slightly. I'm planning on painting the dress as if it's made of the same flayed skin as my Archon's skin-cloak, and my Kabalites' tabards, so a bit of a ragged edge should fit nicely will be a bit of a heart-stopping moment though, given that the kit's probably going to be circa £50 judging by the IoM Triumvirate...

I'm not sure Chaos God is the right way to put it, I certainly would describe Cegorach as a Chaos God for instance, but visual connections to Slaanesh should definitely be expected.

Sure, I find myself sticking bits back on to my DE models all the time these days, as awesome as they look it definitely has a downside, so it shouldn't be a problem if I have to stick them back on.

I'm not sure if painting the dress like skin would work, it definitely doesn't look anything like the skin cloaks of the Archons or Haemonculi or the tabards on Kabalites, it would just end up looking like a skin coloured bit of cloth.
   
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 Imateria wrote:

I'm not sure Chaos God is the right way to put it, I certainly would describe Cegorach as a Chaos God for instance, but visual connections to Slaanesh should definitely be expected.

Sure, I find myself sticking bits back on to my DE models all the time these days, as awesome as they look it definitely has a downside, so it shouldn't be a problem if I have to stick them back on.

I'm not sure if painting the dress like skin would work, it definitely doesn't look anything like the skin cloaks of the Archons or Haemonculi or the tabards on Kabalites, it would just end up looking like a skin coloured bit of cloth.


Haha! Good point. You kind of have to be prepared to stick back teeny-tiny bits of embellishment if you want to take your DEldar anywhere

As for the whole Chaos God thing, while you are right and there is a distinction, it's a very thin one. Functionally they're identical: conscious gestalt entities formed in the warp by emotion and amalgamated souls. The only thing differentiating the Eldar Gods from the Chaos ones is whimsy

Also, their last foray into god-making didn't work out quite so well. I'm convinced that the Eldar might be expecting Ynnead to be on their side, but going by past events that's anything but a guarantee...

I'll do some thinking on the skin-dress. Drilling some little divots and holes into it, and affixing rows of mini-staples over scored lines would help tie it in visually with the Archon's cloak. I'm an avid converter, so the idea of leaving a model be (especially an IC) doesn't sit right with me at all

Popsghostly wrote:
Like the Harlies, these guys look right out of a Cirque Du Soleil show. I'd call it Cirque Aeldari!!!

Got the Imperial Triumverate, might get these guys too. They look nice. Really wanted to see Dinoriders though.


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The models are neato. If I were an Eldar player, I'd get them just to paint.

Er, that is, I'd get them to add to my sickeningly large back log.


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 Ynneadwraith wrote:
 Imateria wrote:

I'm not sure Chaos God is the right way to put it, I certainly would describe Cegorach as a Chaos God for instance, but visual connections to Slaanesh should definitely be expected.

Sure, I find myself sticking bits back on to my DE models all the time these days, as awesome as they look it definitely has a downside, so it shouldn't be a problem if I have to stick them back on.

I'm not sure if painting the dress like skin would work, it definitely doesn't look anything like the skin cloaks of the Archons or Haemonculi or the tabards on Kabalites, it would just end up looking like a skin coloured bit of cloth.


Haha! Good point. You kind of have to be prepared to stick back teeny-tiny bits of embellishment if you want to take your DEldar anywhere

As for the whole Chaos God thing, while you are right and there is a distinction, it's a very thin one. Functionally they're identical: conscious gestalt entities formed in the warp by emotion and amalgamated souls. The only thing differentiating the Eldar Gods from the Chaos ones is whimsy

Also, their last foray into god-making didn't work out quite so well. I'm convinced that the Eldar might be expecting Ynnead to be on their side, but going by past events that's anything but a guarantee...

I'll do some thinking on the skin-dress. Drilling some little divots and holes into it, and affixing rows of mini-staples over scored lines would help tie it in visually with the Archon's cloak. I'm an avid converter, so the idea of leaving a model be (especially an IC) doesn't sit right with me at all


Kind of like the difference between Craftworld and Dark Eldar then.

Whilst I expect Ynnead will definitely be on the side of the Eldar, I seriously doubt that it's actions and motives going forward will be what Eldrad expected.
   
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Just a bunch of twiggy panzees.

Honestly, though, the one with all the green swirly crap looks too busy, and is falling into the AOS problem of looking nice, but being a nightmare to transport and use.

Lady with the cat looks a little plain, but the guy in red armor looks decent.

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Not a big fan of the Avatar and the swirly powers.

The red guy is pretty classic Eldar Phoenix Lord looking, and I'm a fan.

The Cat Lady is really unexpected and different, but maybe in a good way? There's a certain gravitas to it that's growing on me.

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