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Men-at-Arms. How to use?

Marshall Ragnar — GMT

What are some good ways to run Men-at-Arms? I am planning on running 50-60, or possibly more, in an upcoming tournie and am not sure of the beat way to run them.

1) Is it better to run them in horde formation or not? In a horde formation with spears you can get 4 ranks to attack, but in regular formation you have more ranks.

2) With spears or pole-arms? Is the extra attacks worth less Str? Or should the weapon depend on the formations that they are in?

3) And lastly, should they get a damsel or paladin attached to them? I'm thinking either to attach a paladin with crown on command for stubborn, or a damsel with beasts and the prayer icon for a str and T boost and Ward save.

Clan Eshin themed list, could it work?

Osyr — GMT

I'm a 40k player starting fantasy, how well could a Skaven army themed around clan Eshin work? What would need to be done to make it work?

Tomb Kings Monster Mash

Grand Hierophant Khatep — GMT

Is there anything wrong with fielding 3 warsphinx and a necrosphinx for a tomb kings 2000pt list? Is that a viable strategy? Is getting a bunch of tomb guard just better?

ork help please

joshua.gray.williams — GMT

I have a couple armies of 40k one being orks and I love how random and awsome they are, the local gaming store is having a fantasy campaign and im thinking on geting orks, any advice on how to build a army I have not played fantasy before, some of the units I like are, gorbad, night goblins and fanatics, black orks, and boar boys, mangler squiqs, giant spider, and lobers. the way I see me playing is having a mangler and fanatics center of the board to disrupt enemy formations with gorbad and boar boys flanking with support from lobbers and posibly a giant spider, Im not suer of how many units ur allowed per slot and the pts considering I dont have a codex yet but I was curious to see if any one had similer builds and advice on a good army build. \
as far as points I think the norm is 2000 but the store hasnt decided yet.

thanks for the look over hope to get some feed back.

New player, curious on what units are decent in High Elves

DeathBy....Death — GMT

Hey everyone, after much contemplation my friend and I pitched in and bought Island of Blood. As you could tell from the title I chose the High Elves, so I was curious what units to possibly invest in for The future, ill probably get the book tomorrow, thanks.

Tomb Heralds

Grand Hierophant Khatep — GMT

Do you Tomb Kings of Dakka field Tomb Herald BSB or is it not worth the points for you people?

the best army to play against empire

sabastionz — GMT

Hey all,
I am going to be playing allot of empire soon and i am looking for a new army. So i was wondering whats the best army to play against empire with. my main trouble is his unit of knights /w a warrior priest Ludwig and Kurt in :facepalm: . so any suggestions?

note: i play vampires at the moment and they tear me a :bleep: new one every time i play him

Night Goblin archers with a 20x frontage?

bobert — GMT

I was just wondering if it would be tactically viable to deploy a unit of 40x night goblins with shortbows in a 20x file by 2x rank "gunline" formation. I have 2 units of 40x ng with shortbows and want to maximize my shooting. Seems risky, but what isn't in a goblin army? I realize it depletes their close combat effectiveness significantly, but I figure they'll reform for ranks before the enemy closes, and if they do happen to close that quickly, it'll likely be a cav unit, or something else small and quick, so the 10 extra shots for the full 40 shot stand and shoot reaction may be enough to cause panic and divert the charge. Also, this gives me a huge range from which to release fanatics.

Just wondering what thoughts and opinions might be, and do consider this is a pure goblin army, so please dont suggest adding any boyz and the like. You must be this stunty to ride this army :P

Mounts: Best Race

Niiai — GMT

Hello, I am wondering: What is the best race at the moment if you want to use mounts, as in blocks of cavelery?

I know Chaos knights are good, but are there more ways to do it? How about Orks or hordes of mounts?

Savage Orcs with Bows...

Son_Of _Deddog — GMT

So, one can equip Savage Orcs with Bows for very little...
Has anyone tried this? Maybe + Spider Banner?
Could be nasty?

MAybe I should add that, unless I have misread, that bows are in addition to hand weapons, not instead of them..

Warrior Priest Loadout

DakkaOrk007 — GMT

Hey all, I was thinking of starting an Empire army and I wanted to get like 2 hordes of Halberdiers with Handgunners, and lots of wizards and artillery, but mainly combat I think. i was just wanting to know, what is a good idea to equip a Warrior priest with if I have 2 in 2 blocks of halberdiers? And does anyone have a similar list could they post it here?

Lore of Fire with WoC?

Buttlerthepug — GMT

Im just curious to know how well the lore will work in an army since my Khorne themed army will be using it (probably a lvl2, maybe two).

Saurus Warriors: Spears or Hand Weapons and For What Roles?

ElectricPaladin — GMT

I will soon be buying my second box of saurus warriors. I assembled the warriors that came with my battalion with spears, since it's a relatively cheap upgrade that seems to add a lot to their deadliness in combat. Anyway, as I assemble my second box, I need to decide if I want to assemble them with shields and spears.

Now, while I was playing a while back, someone told me that saurus warriors with spears are more of an anvil unit and warriors with hand weapons are more of a hammer unit - to be exact, he told me that with spears it's better to receive a charge than to charge - which makes it seem that it might behoove me to assemble one unit of each. However, I'm not clear as to why this is the case and I didn't get a chance to urge my opponent to clarify. It seems to me that it would be the opposite: spears let warriors fight in an extra rank, which adds to their killiness, while shield and hand weapon gives the warriors a 6+ ward save, which makes them harder to kill.

For that matter, if spears make my saurus more of an anvil unit, I'd be inclined to assemble all my saurus with spears, since my current list also includes a big meaty unit of Temple Guard and a big meaty unit of Saurus Cavalry to act as hammers.

So, to sum it up, these are my questions:
1) Which makes saurus warriors into a better anvil unit, spears or hand weapons, and why?
2) Which do you prefer, shields or hand weapons, and why?
3) If I've got a bunch of warriors with spears, should I assemble some with hand weapons? Or is this a choice I should make consistently across an entire army so both my saurus units can fulfill the same role?

What Lores are best for this list?

Marshall Ragnar — GMT

I am not looking for comments on the list as I already have the models painted and all ready for the tournament on Saturday. What I cant decide is the lores to use. Should I have all my casters take Lore of Beasts so I can really beaf up my knights and give the SC within range of the Prophetess +3str and +3 attacks with the Savage Beast of Horos? Or should the damsels take Beats for Wildform and the Prophetess take Life to regenerate wounds on the SC, bring back knights and hopefully get Dwellers Below? If it helps I am expecting to be playing against at least 1 other Bret army, 1-2 Skavens, and 1 Ogres with possibly elves making an appearance.

LORDS
Lord w/Shield, Horse, Virtue of Heroism, Heartwood Lance, Dawnstone - 234

Prophetess w/lvl 4, Lore of Beasts, Horse, Earthing Rod - 265

HEROES
Paladin w/BSB, Horse, Gromhil Great Helm, Biting Blade - 104

Paladin w/ Horse, Enchanted Shield, Birth Sword of Carcossone, Potion of Foolhardiness- 119

Damsel w/Horse, Dispel Scroll, Lore of Beasts - 105

Damselw/Horse, Silver Mirror, Lore of Beasts - 120

CORE
7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Eternal Flame - 202

8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 216

7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Discipline- 207

8 Knights Errents w/Full Command, Errentry Banner - 201

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130

RARE

Trebuchet - 90

Any Tactics an tips on how to defeat beastmen

Mikster — GMT

Im playing against a good friend of mine this weekend he has been winning a lot of games with his new beatmen army. Any tips and anything that can aid me in beating beastmen I am going to play my WoC Its going to be 1000 Points

Mikster

Orcs and Goblins vs Warriors of Chaos Updated

Muppas — GMT

Hey all, first of all I couldn't decide between this forum or army list but since i'm mostly gonna talk about tactics I figured that this is the best place for my thread, but mods are free to move it.

Alright, so - i'm going to play against a newbie friend soon who is interested in WHFB and WoC! Luckily for him I actually got a little WoC army which i'm slowly building on but it really is small. Anyway, we talked about how the game would look like and he wanted to try a little of everything that he was interested in which is cavalry, magic and a really tough general/killer/slayer etc. So now i've been building on a list which is made for fun and we are going to play with house rules aka we don't really care about the 25% lord stuff etc. So this is what I got at the moment -
[u][b]
Warriors of Chaos[/b][/u]
[spoiler][u][b]Lords – 350pts[/b][/u]
Chaos Lord
Chaos Runesword
Mark of Khorne
Acid Ichor
Trickster’s Helm
Shield
[u]
[b]Heroes – 170pts[/b][/u]
Chaos Sorcerer
Lvl 2 Wizard
Mark of Tzeentch (will use Fire lore though, but will keep the other bonuses from MoT. House-rules, heh.)
Disc of Tzeentch
Dispel Scroll
Enchanted Shield
Sword of Battle
Power Familiar (Giving this one to him for free as a little newbie bonus.)

[u][b]Core Units – 555pts[/b][/u]
12 Warriors
Musician
Champion
Additional Hand Weapon
Mark of Nurgle
Banner of Rage

12 Warriors
Musician
Champion
Shield
Mark of Tzeentch
Wailing Banner

[u][b]Special Units – 545pts[/b][/u]
5 Knights
Mark of Khorne
Champion
Banner of Swiftness

4 Chaos Ogre's
Mark of Khorne
Mutant
Chaos Armor
Great Weapon
[/spoiler]

[u][b]Orcs and Goblins[/b][/u]
[spoiler][u][b]Lords – 260pts[/b][/u]
Black Orc Warboss
Wizarding Hat

[u][b]Heroes – 251pts[/b][/u]
Goblin Big Boss
Spider Banner
Short Bow

Savage Orc Big Boss
Armor of Fortune
Great Choppa

[u][b]Core Units – 627pts[/b][/u]
40 Big'Uns
Additional Hand Weapon
Musician
Boss
Razor Standard

19 Night Goblins
Musician
Boss
Netters
3 Fanatics

[u][b]Special Units – 400pts[/b][/u]
20 Black Orcs
Musician
Boss
Banner of Swiftness

Orc Boar Chariot
Additional Crew
[/spoiler]
The points are pretty equal. I could add more units to my Orc list but I wanted to balance it out a little bit and make it easier for him and harder for me to win the game. He wanted to battle archers so I gave him some archers and he wanted to battle some tough troops so I gave him some tough troops! Anyway, what do you guys think? Does these two lists look fairly balanced and a good start for a newbie to begin with?

Also, I would love to lower the amount of magic items but as I said i'm pretty short on WoC models so I wanted to make it as epic as possible. :)
[u][b]
UPDATED -[/b][/u]
I changed the lists quite a lot. The core units are pretty much the same except that I removed Banner of Wrath from the Tzeentch Warriors and gave them Wailing Banner instead. I think that lvl 2 Wizards are the way to go instead of starting with lvl 4's. I removed my Dispel Scroll but decided that he could keep his scroll. I also added 4 Chaos Ogre's to the list and I will buy, paint and glue them together soon.

[u][b]Rules of the game[/b][/u]
[spoiler]Last man standing! Also, there will be 3 possible objects that you can take which will increase [b]your whole army's power![/b]
[b]1. Offering to Khorne (Right side of the field) -[/b] Increases your Attack by 1. All you have to do is to run 4" with any unit or character and your whole army has it.
[b]2. Dwarf Tomb (Middle of the field) -[/b] increases your LD by 3, up to a maximum of 10. All you have to do is to run 4" with any unit or character and your whole army has it.
[b]3. Offering to Gork (Left side of the field) -[/b] +1 Ward Save to all your units. All you have to do is to run 4" with any unit or character and your whole army has it.
If both players have a unit at the object then no one will have it. You don't actually need to keep a unit at the object to keep the buff -- once you have touched it it's yours. But if you leave the object then the other player can take it and the player who had the buff will lose the buff.[/spoiler]

So, what do you guys think?

500 point anything-goes tourney with Skaven...

Nate668 — GMT

I'm playing in a 500 point tourney this weekend in which one core choice and one hero are compulsory, but there are no percentage restrictions for the remaining list. What would you guys suggest taking in a format like this? I'm debating between an HPA with or without a WLC, two WLC's and lots of slaves, or 1 WLC and more bodies. What would you use in this situation?

Viability of the Fay Enchantress

walledin — GMT

[u]Question[/u]
Does this character have any place in even a semi competitive Bretonnian army? If so what kind of army would work well with her?

[u]Description[/u]
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the character she weighs in at a little over 500 points, can cast from any standard lore, gets an additional +2 to casting Life, adds an extra die to both dispel and power dice and casts a random Heavens spell every turn.

[u]My thoughts[/u]
She opens up the possibility of buying another Grail knight unit but the price of it counts against the Lord section and with her massive price I don't see how you could possibly afford to buy a unit of any decent size. She might work as a character to cover the entirety of the Bretonnian magic phase, like a crappy teclis. The problem with that is that then there is no Dispel scroll in the army and it would cost over 100 points to buy a cheapie damsel with a scroll. At that point it seems like too many points are being put into something other than lances or peasants in a Bretonnian list.

[u]TLDR[/u]
Fay Enchantress useable at all?

Dwarf Tactics vs. VC

motyak — GMT

Hey Dakka,

I'm not too flash of a dwarf player, so I could use your help against my friend. We play aroundabouts 1000 points, we don't have much more, and he initially played a powerful vamp sorcerer, a weaker vamp combat hero and 2 big ghoul units, and a medium zombie unit. First game we realized (post-game) his points percentage was just so very off (the whole max 25% thing for lords and what not). But I think despite this, I would have found it a difficult game, and I was right, as I've found it a difficult army to play. My usual set up (because the other player in our triumverate is a HE player) is (from memory);
Runesmith with Balance, Spellbreaking and a GW
around 28 GW warriors
Another 26 or so GW warriors
2 Grudge Throwers, one with RoAccuracy and RoPen, the other with RoAccuracy, RoPen and RoBurning

The numbers in warrior units are a kinda estimate as I forget how many I manage to fit, but they won't be off by more than a few.

My variations have included changing one of the units to a smaller one of quarrellers with GW, making a unit of warriors smaller and turning the larger one into longbeards, and dropping a GT for an Organ gun and a cannon at different times. What are your opinions?

Warriors of chaos = Worst army in 8th ed.

iddy00711 — GMT

As a new fantasy player i decided to research out which armies were both playable and decent. Unfortunately i stumbled on a few bloggs praising chaos warriors and after a quick look i decided to dish out quiet abit of cash on them. Now after both playing them and reading almost 40-50 battle reports almost every single the resulting in a defeat for warriors of chaos. i can confidently say, no matter what the build, warriors of chaos are both the worst army in 8th ed and totally un-competitive in any respect. Now im asking the people of dakka if they can name me 1, just 1, W.O.C. army/player whose even been placed in the top 10 in a major tournement (over 100 people).

Chaos Marks for Marauders

Mikster — GMT

What is the best mark to give Marauders if they have the Banner of Rage and Flails? :question:

Mikster

Dice Odds

2000 Volts — GMT

I recently made a post in another thread about the value of Ld. 10 over Ld. 9 and thought this table would be useful to the Dakka Community.
There are 36 possible outcomes of two dice. The following tables show the true odds for the specified outcome of the dice. Since our game relies so much on single two dice rolls, for the most part Collumn B is our go-to.

Note: I was slightly off in my previous posting in giving 10 an 8-1 odd - that is the gambling odd but as you can see below it's 11-1.

(A) This column gives the number of possible ways of making the dice total.

(B) This column gives the odds against making the dice total in a single roll.

(C) This column gives the odds against rolling the dice total before a 7.

(D) These columns give the odds against making the higher dice total before the lower dice total. e.g. 12 before 6 = 5 - 1. For making the lower number before the higher, reverse the odds. e.g. 6 before 12 = 1 - 5.

Dice A B C D> >
12 1 35 - 1 6-1 12
11 2 17 - 1 3-1 2-1 11
10 3 11 - 1 2-1 3-1 3-2 10
9 4 8 - 1 3-2 4-1 2-1 4-3 9
8 5 6 - 1 6-5 5-1 5-2 5-3 5-4 8
7 6 5 - 1 - 6-1 3-1 2-1 3-2 6-5 7
6 5 6 - 1 6-5 5-1 5-2 5-3 5-4 1-1 5-6 6
5 4 8 - 1 3-2 4-1 2-1 4-3 1-1 4-5 2-3 4-5 5
4 3 11 -1 2 -1 3-1 3-2 1-1 3-4 3-5 1-2 3-5 3-4 4
3 2 17 - 1 3-1 2-1 1-1 2-3 1-2 2-5 1-3 2-5 1-2 2-3 3
2 1 35 - 1 6-1 1-1 1-2 1-3 1-4 1-5 1-6 1-5 1-4 1-3 1-2 2

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dice-play/CrapsOdds.htm

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I just realized Collumn D is pertinent as well - but that chart would be best seen at the original page since the numbers got squished in the cut and paste. It essentially tells you the odds of making over a number - so if, say, you had to close a gap of 10 inches on a charge and needed a 6 or better on the dice - that chart willl tell you the odds

Do Strollarz Lists work at 1.5K without an Anvil?

Son_Of _Deddog — GMT

I play quite small games at the moment-about 1500 max.

Now I have a couple of games coming up next week and would like to try a Strollarz list. However, because of the low points I'm not keen to get an Anvil; every list of this sort seems to one.

Is this points level too low to go for a tricksy "fast dwarf" list?

Which of the list would be better against Skaven?

LordHamshire — GMT

I'm actually leaning on List A... But I'm not sure.

2000 pts (List A)

Lords:
Slann Mage-Priest 430 (3 Disciplines (The Focused Rumination, Focus of Mystery, The Becalming Cogitation) Dispel Scroll, Ironcurse Amulet, General, Lore of Life)

Heroes:
Saurus Scar-Vet 182 (BSB, Shield, Dawnstone, Light Armour, Cold One, Venom of the Firefly Frog, Dragonbane Helm)

Core:
20 Saurus Warriors 258 (Musician, Flag Bearer, Spears)

20 Saurus Warriors 258 (Musician, Flag Bearer, Spears)

Special:
40 Temple Guard 688 (Musician, Flag Bearer, War Banner)

6 Chameleons 72

Rare:
Salamander Hunting Pack 75

1500 pts (List B)

Lords:
Tehenhauin 250 (General)

Hero:
Skink Chief 117 (Light Armour, Shield, Javelin, BSB, Skavenpelt Banner)

Skink Chief 92 (Light Armour, Shield, Javelin, Dagger of Sotek)

Core:
48 Skinks 254 (Standard Bearer, Musician)

20 Skinks 114 (Standard Bearer, Musician)

10 Skink Skirmishers 70

Special:
5 Chameleons 60

5 Chameleons 60

5 Chameleons 60

5 Chameleons 60

6 Terradon Riders 180

6 Terradon Riders 180

26 levels of magic in a Tomb Kings army?!

Anvildude — GMT

I just statted it out, and it looks like you could conceivably get a full 26 Wizard levels in a 3000 point TK army list.

Arkhan the Black- lvl 5
Liche High Priest- lvl 4
Liche High Priest- lvl 3
7x Liche Priests- lvl 2

And that's even with a few points left over to give one of them a Skeletal Steed, or some scrolls or something.

Would that be at all useful? I mean, is there a limit to what you can use in an army, Magic-wise? And with TK you could even add a Casket of Souls and a Heirotitan or two for more Magic bonus.

Really, is there anything preventing this sort of list from absolutely owning Magic? Heck, that's enough lvl 2 Liche Priests you could practically use them as a unit of their own! Or if you could cast multiple of the same spells, restore a unit to full from a single model, or give them upwards of 10 Attacks each!

I'm new to the game, and so I may have missed some blatantly obvious rule that prevents this sort of thing. But wow! Are other armies able to do that sort of overwhelming magic?

400 Point Rounds for Tomb Kings?

Grand Hierophant Khatep — GMT

I played a 400 point round about 10 minutes ago and I lost big time to my 9 year old sister (skaven). I... I.. need help..

Ogre special characters: worth the points?

ConsumeTea — GMT

So are the OK special characters ever worth taking?

Coven Throne

HawaiiMatt — GMT

You don't see a lot of chatter on these, so I have one a try today.

The plan was simple.
Vampire, heavy armor, charmed shield, and opal amulet. (that's ignore 1 hit, and 4+ ward vs 1st wound). Still pretty cheap.
Kept the Throne within 12" of the general, so I get the LD10 for battle of the wills. In most combats, the generals unit moves in within 6" pretty fast, where my generals Aura of Dark Majesty pays off.

It performed a lot better than I thought it would. Varghulf, vargheists and hex wraiths all loaded one flank while smaller ghoul units and sand makes them similar.
It's done a pretty good number on shooting armies, as you have a chance that you'll make those shooters hit each other instead of listening to you.

-Matt

I Believe I Have Understimated Skeleton Archers

Grand Hierophant Khatep — GMT

I never gave them a chance but I used them recently as a bunker for the priest and I found that they can actually do quite a bit of damage. The main thing I forgot was that righteous smiting gives multiple shots (2), and no negative to hit is delicious. Archers can attack without being attacked and they can pick, choose, and change targets every turn and don't have to move to attack, they can stay nice and cozy behind the heavy hitters.

Chariots have always been nice, with 8 move and swiftstride their great to have around. The only reason they got worse for me is I started playing with terrain, aka a group of 6 chariots passing through a forest is going to have an average of one chariot explode.

Warriors are a nice solid core, with a prince and necrotect they become a decent fighting unit. Though buyer beware they will eat anything else thats fighting with them with combat resolution.

Horse Archers are expensive archers with scout.

And Horseman are a burning bag of poop.

What do you my fellow Tomb Kings field for your core?

Beastmen

necron overlord — GMT

I was thinking of doing the Beastmen but I had a few questions.

1) Are Beastmen a fun army to play.
2) Are Beastmen forgivable when you make make mistakes.
3) Are they effective.

I am just starting Warhammer Fantasy and I thought the Beastmen looked really cool but I need some input on the Beastmen before I spent money on the them.

Why Put A Champion In With The Temple Gaurd

LordHamshire — GMT

14 points to increase the attacks by 50% on one model? Slann gets no penalty for refusing challenges... So... Help me out here, is there no point?

Quick noobish orcs question.

ServantofChaos — GMT

I have been working on building an orc force. I bought some used orcs that have spears and hand weapons. After reading a bit on the forums and studying the rules a few times over, I am thinking I will need to get some sheilds to replace the hand weapons. I like to fallow WYSIWYG and hope to play them competativly. What say you Dakka Dakka?

Please help with WoC list, new to WHFB

CrashCanuck — GMT

I have decided to start playing WHFB with the WoC army, partly because I like the look and feel, partly because my 2 roommates each play Daemons and Beastmen so I need to finish the trifectum of Chaos.

My 1500 point list is

Sorcerer lvl 2 w/ MoT
Sorcerer lvl 2 w/ MoT

15 Chaos Warriors w/ FC, MoN, Shields
15 Chaos Warriors w/ FC, MoK, Shields

15 Chosen w/ FC, additional hand weapon, MoK, Favour of the Gods
5 Chaos Knights w/ Musician, Standard Bearer, MoT

I'm hoping to get tips on how to run/improve this list. I'm also wondering if the MoT on the Sorcerers is a good idea or if I should use them with Lore of Fire or Lore of Death.

Orge Bulls load out

ConsumeTea — GMT

Hi, I'm a new player to Fantasy Battle and I was wondering if it's better to give my orge bulls either extra hand weapons or the iron fists?

Returning to WHFB, would like advice from Demon Players

lighterthief — GMT

Hi,

Ive just restarted playing WHFB after a decade or so break. I have decided to play demons and would like to pick the brains of any demon players.

My initial buy was :

Lord of Change
40 Horrors
6 Flamers
5 Screamers
Changeling

I was originally going to go mono tzeentch but now am not so sure.

I will need to expand on what i have bought so far, I was thinking some bloodletters because they seem too good.

My opponents will be playing empire or undead. Any advice or wisdom would be greatly appreciated.

Looking for a couple good Hero Level Vampire Builds

Hargus56 — GMT

Making a 1000 and 1500 list and planning on using a master necro as the lord choice but want something that can accept challenges and be killy or rack up some combat res on rank and file.

Starting WHFB (40k 10+ years) ... What ARMY would YOU use and WHY?

Lord_Thanatos — GMT

Okay Dakkanauts,

I have decided to double my gaming pleasure and join the realm of WHFB.

I am curious as to what Armies YOU play and WHY? All you magnificent generals out there must set aside your desire to issue orders and, instead, make a sales pitch so that a new player will join the ranks of your fantasy realm.

Someone care to convince me to become a Vampire Count?

Should I open my soul to Chaos? What about those Daemons?

I could help mankind preserve its existence against the myriad of threats out there?

What about beasts: skaven, lizards, ogres, dwarfs (do they belong in this list)?

Are the ancient Tomb Kings destined to rule the realms?

Elves? Are they light-weight faeries or magical masters of the universe?

Let me know...

Lizardman Slann lore choice life or light??

doubled — GMT

Alright have my sights set on lizardmen for a tourny in July which should give me a lot of time to paint it. The main issue I am having right now is that I cannot pick between the Lore's of life and light. Life buffs the saurus and such to stupid toughness, grants regen and lets you grow back models while protecting yourself from miscasts and still giving a few damage spells including dwellers beneath. Light makes up for the one glaring weakness in a lizardmen army, speed, while giving a few damage spells. Both seem good, and I am running big blocks of infantry, so what do you guys think?

Shooting from the Arachnarok Spider

SoCxWarChief — GMT

Curious, when using the Forest Goblins for shooting from the Arachnarok Spider, do we measure from the Howdah or the base of the unit?

Lizard men w/o Slaan?

ServantofChaos — GMT

Can a lizard men army be competative with no slaan mage-preist?

Any tactics on how to defeat tomb Kings as Lizardmen

old ones champion — GMT

I have a lizardman army and my friend has a huge legion that vastly outnumbers m]ine. any tips on how to defeat tomb kings. :question: :question: :question:

LoS, why don't I just model my dragons with heads a mile away from the base...?

LordHamshire — GMT

LoS, why don't I just model my dragons with heads a mile away from the base for breath attacks and flying units really close to the ground to get more cover saves? Are conversions tournament legal, or do you have to model it like GW says?

Wyvern lord loadout

Gar'Ang — GMT

Can people give some info on good wyvern lord loadouts? Perhaps some that you have tried out succesfully? Or read about

Thanks in forehand!

//Gar'Ang

How do you combat a chosen-star?

The Forgefather — GMT

Hey Dakka, I recently played a 2k point game of fantasy against my friend's WoC. Needless to say, he brought his chosen and warshrine and absolutely demolished my temple guard and saurus blocks. Despite buffing my TG block with Timewarp, Speed of Light, and Pha's protection, I could only kill about 5 chosen before they plowed through my temple guard. I had no problem making him take saves, but the 4+ ward save from the warshrine combined with the mark of Tzeentch made it nearly impossible to kill any of them. It's not losing that bothers me; I just have legitimately no idea on how to counter his chosen star, and since he seems very committed to running them, I'm sure I'll be seeing them on the table more often.

Does anyone on Dakka have any advice or strategies on how to combat chosen? Was I running the wrong lore on my Slann? Should I have just avoided combat with his chosen alltogether?

Thanks for the help,
Forge

What is the secret of deployment??

Son_Of _Deddog — GMT

OK, I would like to expand on this when I have more time, but put simply, what is the best way to deploy? Should one stick to a plan? Should one deploy reactivly, depending on their oppomant? Should one try to force ones opponant to deploy in an unfavourable position by deploying in a certain way?

I know what I think, and will expand on it later-but what do you think??

Any ideas on good deployment would be fantastic..
:thumbsup:

terrorgheist or not 2 terrorgheist

DaHoss — GMT

VC player here, obvious from the subject line I hope, currently toying with running two terrorgheists in a 2k list but I am apprehensive about dropping my Black Coach to be able to do this. I am in love with the death shreik of the terrorgheist and even though the infested upgrade (3d6 str 2 hits to units in close combat) is a weak death explosion the shear number of dice that can be rolled will wound something. I just don't know if it is worth it to drop my super coach for another gheist, therefore I come to the combined wisdom of the forums to hear any suggestions or horror stories from other VC players that have dealt with this problem.

necro led VC armies... can they work?

blahman — GMT

So im just playing with list ideas trying to figure out what i wanna make for an army list. I was thinking of running a lvl 4 necro leading an all skeleton army 2 big blocks of skel warriors a block of GG's with a king, some black nights, corpse carts and an engine. for support probably a couple of lvl 1 necros just for nehek. i was wondering if running kemmler and krell could be worth it in this type of getup.... crunching numbers at around 2250 id have 2x40 blocks of skellys and and 30 GGs. maybe make a small 10-15 skelly block to bunker the lvl1 necros in.

Wood Elf confusion

KillerSkivil — GMT

i have been playing warhammer fantasy for arround 4 months now. i started with tombkings (that didnt turn out so good). but i was thinking about starting wood elves as its more of the army i wanted to play and i just wondered if there was any cool tactics i could use for a bit of fun. i was thinking about doing a sisters of twilight army just because there rules look awesome but im not sure what to make of them.

can anyone help me make up my mind about where to go with this

Zombie Dragon Tactics?

happygolucky — GMT

Ok so im starting VC im getting the book soon and I have the BRB (and read it regularly) I want for my lord a zombie dragon and since im not up against empire and dwarfs (or many artillery units) I think this would be a viable option but im not sure since I have no army book, and I do not want a terrorghist because the thought of having a zombie dragon is more appealing to me more than a big undead bat.

I will However may be playing OK and DE which do have artillery units (such as iron blasters and reaper bolt throwers) so how can I combat them to make sure my dragon lord stays alive?

Also what should I equip my vampire lord with (I will be playing against TK,WE,DE,HE,OK,daemons and orcs and gobbos (possible)?

I may also add my opponents seem in my head wanting to want more monsters than artillery units.

Cheers to all comments.

Really nobody wants to help? :'(

empire artillery

BossGrizznit — GMT

SO beginning painting work on my empire army and I was wanting to know from veteran empire generals what the + and - of the empires artillery beyond the cannon. My friend plays dwarves and runs just basic cannon so it's about the same and so I know what they can do. But what about the mortar and hellblaster? I have one of each(both were bought and built for me so they are what they are)

I understand the mortar is great for large infantry units, but does it have the punch against heavy infantry like chaos warriors.

The hellblaster certainly looks cool and like it has the capability of dealing plenty of destruction but is it truly effective? or is it to gimmicky and should just stay home?

Also though I dont have one I could get one, is the hellstorm battery any good? It seems as though it would be too inaccurate.

Any insight appreciated! :thumbsup:

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