http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [size=24] Dakka Painting Challenge - Ver 2.0 [/size]

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The release of the New Dakka has prompted the return of the Dakka Painting Challenge! For those of you who weren't around when it was originally started, this is your chance to show the rest of Dakka what you're made of!
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The Rules[/size]
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1.) Abide by the spirit and guidelines of the Challenge presented.
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2.) Take a WIP shot of your model before painting.[/b]
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3.) Paint your model![/b]
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4.) Take another shot of the completed model and send it in to [color=orange]DakkaPaintingChallenge@dakkadakka.com[/color] with your Dakka Handle as the photo's filename. Also be sure to include your dakka handle in the email, just in case. Oh and be sure it's in before Midnight Central (GMT-6:00) the night of the Deadline!!
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5.) The day after the deadline, all the entries will be presented for all of Dakka to see! Along with this will be a poll for the community at large to pick their favorite from the bunch.
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6.) Voting will last for 1 week. At the end of the voting, the one with the most votes in the poll, Wins!!
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Notes: [/b]

The model you enter can not be shown on Dakka or any other website, it's specifically for release by me in the Voting Poll. [color=red] [b]Models found to be posted prior to the Voting Poll will be disqualified.[/b][/color][color=#444444] [/color]
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Please only send one WIP shot with your entry. If you decide to send more than one final painted shot, I will pick the best of them and post it alone. You may create a collage for the model to show detail (back, front, close ups, etc.) and send it as your entry.
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Images:
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Pics of your model may be either [b]800x600 pixels or 600x800 pixels[/b]. The voting is done blind, that way favoritism has nothing to do with who wins. [color=red][b]No text, watermarks, or icons on the entry at all[/b][/color]. File Names will be changed after I receive them.
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The Prize:
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The Winner Recieves: Dakka Bragging rights, A Dakka front page announcement of your glorious victory, and the respect from your fellow modelers. And thanks to the kindness of Yakface, A 1 Year DCM membership!
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Themes:[/b]

Every time the Dakka Painting challenge is held, the Theme of the Challenge will change. So never expect to see the same competition twice. I'll always be open to theme ideas and if you come up with any please don't hesitate to email [b][color=orange]DakkaPaintingChallenge@dakkadakka.com[/color][/b] at once with your awesome idea!

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The Challenge [/size]
[b]Challenge Deadline:[/b] December 2nd, 2007

[b]Challenge: [/b] [color=blue][b]God Bless the Infantry.[/b][/color]

This time around we're going to start off with an Infantry model challenge. Your armies would be nothing without them and we're going to pay homage to the fine models that make up the core of our hobby!

[b]The Rules:[/b]

Model must be a Single infantry model.

Based on a single square or round base. 25mm up to 40mm accepted.


If you have ANY questions regarding the competition, please feel free to ask here or email [color=orange][b]DakkaPaintingChallenge@dakkadakka.com[/b][/color]!!


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205048.page GMT WIP pics?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205078.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205078.page GMT WIP pics?[/quote]

Send your WIP's along with your entry photo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205081.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205169.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205169.page GMT
Subject of anonymity may be difficult to achieve, given some infantry models may look rather reckognizable and unique ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205179.page GMT
1) The WIP requirement will be the same as the old comp I assume? (ie just a pic of your mini in an unfinished state, not neccessarily bare metal or primed)

2) I'm not sure how to define infantry - is it some sort of gaming term, or, as I would think of it, soldiers fighting on foot? (basically, I want to enter an Ogryn, but I assume that they're some sort of uber-elite super special unit choice in the IG codex, and maybe not strictly defined as "infantry" as far as gamers are concerned, I am not a gamer).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205180.page GMT
Subject of anonymity may be difficult to achieve, given some infantry models may look rather reckognizable and unique [/quote]

Hehe, I realize that keeping things completely anonymous will be somewhat hard to do because of just that. But I want to keep with the spirit of the rules and in the future (when themes are much different from this), it should be easier to make voting anonymous.

[quote=Jazz is for Losers]Yay! My questions-

1) The WIP requirement will be the same as the old comp I assume? (ie just a pic of your mini in an unfinished state, not neccessarily bare metal or primed)

2) I'm not sure how to define infantry - is it some sort of gaming term, or, as I would think of it, soldiers fighting on foot? (basically, I want to enter an Ogryn, but I assume that they're some sort of uber-elite super special unit choice in the IG codex, and maybe not strictly defined as "infantry" as far as gamers are concerned, I am not a gamer).[/quote]

While WIP would be nicest if you showed the model in a much more unfinished state (metal/primed), it is acceptable if the model is in a not nearly completed state.

As for Infantry - Medics, Sergeants, Lieutenants, Grunts, Vets, Ground Pounders, Foot sloggers, Filthy Legs, Airborne, Air Assault, Snipers, Advanced Marksmen...you get the idea ^_-. If your model can fit an infantry role I'll accept em ^_-.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205187.page GMT wip pic could be dropped from the comp in future though? (just a suggestion. IIRC the wip rule was there to verify that people had painted their mini for the comp within the timeframe of the comp, but personally I think that any mini in someones collection that fits the theme could be eligible for participation, as long as it is an original [unseen, unpublished], whether they painted it 6yrs ago or this month. I think it would encourage more nice entries nd make for a better comp. After all, we are competing for fun and a sense of community etc etc, I don't think it matters if one person spent 3 months painting their entry and another painted it especially for the DPC. Just my 2 cents).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205197.page GMT - to build and paint this SM Special Character:

[IMG]http://hem.spray.se/kendoka/sm_specialchar.jpg[/IMG]

A rather tough job, especially when considering the shoulder pads and weapons...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205328.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205328.page GMT wip pic could be dropped from the comp in future though? (just a suggestion. IIRC the wip rule was there to verify that people had painted their mini for the comp within the timeframe of the comp, but personally I think that any mini in someones collection that fits the theme could be eligible for participation, as long as it is an original [unseen, unpublished], whether they painted it 6yrs ago or this month. I think it would encourage more nice entries nd make for a better comp. After all, we are competing for fun and a sense of community etc etc, I don't think it matters if one person spent 3 months painting their entry and another painted it especially for the DPC. Just my 2 cents).[/quote]

Personally, I'd disagree, requiring a WIP pic of the model in an unpainted/nearly unpainted state at the start of the contest would seem to put people on a more nearly even playing field.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205339.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205339.page GMT WIP rule. As TragicNut mentioned, it's really all about the even keel here. They're Challenges, and while this is a competition, the point is to challenge the painter/modeler to create the best piece possible in the time given toward the theme presented.

And to kendoka: That's actually been an idea, not the OTT marine character of course, but to present a picture for the theme and have people use it as a guide to follow in producing their model! Expect to see something along those lines in the future of the competition!

Oh and for good measure

God I missed those.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205366.page GMT DCM membership?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205389.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205389.page GMT DCM membership?[/quote]


A one year DCM membership (Dakka Contribuing Member, gotta add that to the glossary) is a very small prize at this point.

Basically, people who donate money to Dakka to keep it running are given DCM status and having membership has a few perks on the site. With the site currently where it is, the perks are pretty slim:

Ad free site (if you wish), custom rank title (if you wish), access to the private DCM forums and a dakkadakka.com email address (if you want it).


Unfortunately, at this moment it is really the only "prize" I have to offer, so that's why I'm offering it. In the future for any other Dakka painting challenges I will hopefully be able to offer some other things but for right now, that's all I got.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205398.page GMT DCM Membership is an excellent prize! (still ~$25 value, right?)

2 - Dakka painting contest is supa-cool! I was just looking at the warhammer.org painting contest, and thought what a great idea it was. Definitely has to be started & completed within the challenge timeframe, it is a challenge afterall, not an ebay purchase showcase.

D - At the aforementioned site, the winner of the challenge picks the next theme, what do you think about that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205454.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205454.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205458.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205458.page GMT [/quote]

Why the restriction? The Challenge might get a better turn out without demanding publication rights to people's work. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205519.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205519.page GMT [/quote]

Why the restriction? The Challenge might get a better turn out without demanding publication rights to people's work. [/quote]

This was mainly in an effort to keep it from becoming a popularity contest. And to reenforce the idea of painting a model specifically with this competition in mind. It's not to take the rights from the indvidual but really just asking them to hold off on posting their work for the sake of the competition. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205527.page GMT
As the competition grows and evolves, the themes will become more and more elaborate and fun, and really give folks the chance to put their all into learning a new technique and some new ways to paint. So hopefully folks enter in an effort to try and learn something ^_^]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205530.page GMT

Unfortunately, at this moment it is really the only "prize" I have to offer, so that's why I'm offering it. In the future for any other Dakka painting challenges I will hopefully be able to offer some other things but for right now, that's all I got.


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Hmmm... I might be able to help you out with that come a breether in real life. We need a Dakka statue me thinks! Limited ed of casts for contests like these. I could take a look at this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205532.page GMT Hmmm... I might be able to help you out with that come a breether in real life. We need a Dakka statue me thinks! Limited ed of casts for contests like these. I could take a look at this.[/quote]

That could be a very very cool idea to look into...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205657.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205657.page GMT [/quote]

Why the restriction? The Challenge might get a better turn out without demanding publication rights to people's work. [/quote]

I think the point is that the restriction is temporary, not eternal. It makes sense to me, as does the WIP requirement.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205719.page GMT

Unfortunately, at this moment it is really the only "prize" I have to offer, so that's why I'm offering it. In the future for any other Dakka painting challenges I will hopefully be able to offer some other things but for right now, that's all I got.


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Hmmm... I might be able to help you out with that come a breether in real life. We need a Dakka statue me thinks! Limited ed of casts for contests like these. I could take a look at this.[/quote]

Great idea!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/205827.page GMT Well Migs, if you want to help a brother out, I would gladly appreciate it.


BTW Grey_Death, would a Zoanthrope count as infantry (given that its kind of large and it floats, not walks)?

Cause I could use SOMETHING to get me painting again and contributing a model to this competition could be just the trick, although the only model I have on my plate that I'm interested in the area of infantry would be a Zoey.

Whaddya think?

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/206291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/206291.page GMT Well Migs, if you want to help a brother out, I would gladly appreciate it.


BTW Grey_Death, would a Zoanthrope count as infantry (given that its kind of large and it floats, not walks)?

Cause I could use SOMETHING to get me painting again and contributing a model to this competition could be just the trick, although the only model I have on my plate that I'm interested in the area of infantry would be a Zoey.

Whaddya think?

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Eh, a Zoap would be kinda pushing it. We're really going for anything that fights in groups or squads. Zoap has a sense of independence to em and like you mentioned, he's got a floating issue . Now if you wanted to throw in a Warrior, termagant, stealer, hormagant, any of those would be fine . And you could always paint that model you've always wanted to paint but never had the chance to! That's what I'm doin!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/206564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/206564.page GMT

As for the trophy. I'll look at it beginning of December. It should not be too complicated - something lightweight too - as it these may well be mailed around the globe.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/206937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/206937.page GMT

As for the trophy. I'll look at it beginning of December. It should not be too complicated - something lightweight too - as it these may well be mailed around the globe.[/quote]

Good god man, tryin to cut it close much ^_-??

I'm really looking forward to seeing what you come up with for that trophy too good sir. If you need a hand with the design (Yeah right...), feel free to bug me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207037.page GMT
Sorry it took me so long ( I've been a bit pre-occupied this week ), but I made this thread a sticky post and I put an announcement on the front page about the challenge. Hopefully this will get a couple extra people involved.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207049.page GMT Sorry it took me so long ( I've been a bit pre-occupied this week ), but I made this thread a sticky post and I put an announcement on the front page about the challenge. Hopefully this will get a couple extra people involved.


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Wewt. First Stickied Post!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207050.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207057.page GMT
-Hans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207059.page GMT [quote=grey_death]I made something...[/quote]


Awesome job on the banner image. I added it to the news post on the front page and put it into your initial post in this thread.

Very, very cool.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207061.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207061.page GMT As for Infantry - Medics, Sergeants, Lieutenants, Grunts, Vets, Ground Pounders, Foot sloggers, Filthy Legs, Airborne, Air Assault, Snipers, Advanced Marksmen...you get the idea ^_-. If your model can fit an infantry role I'll accept em ^_-.[/quote]

so basically it's going to be:

OMGSHOWUSYOURKITTEDOUTINSANECOMMANDERCONVERSIONS!!!!!11!!!1!eleven]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207069.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207069.page GMT As for Infantry - Medics, Sergeants, Lieutenants, Grunts, Vets, Ground Pounders, Foot sloggers, Filthy Legs, Airborne, Air Assault, Snipers, Advanced Marksmen...you get the idea ^_-. If your model can fit an infantry role I'll accept em ^_-.[/quote]

so basically it's going to be:

OMGSHOWUSYOURKITTEDOUTINSANECOMMANDERCONVERSIONS!!!!!11!!!1!eleven[/quote]

Really I don't think you're going to see that from this competition. It's not an HQ challenge, it's an Infantry challenge. Most people, I expect, will keep to the spirit of the competition. And I would hope that voting will also reflect the same.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207116.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207116.page GMT
So, then, I could do a Chaos Spawn?

I just assembled a great one last night, and I need some fire under my butt to get paint on him!


Eric]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207168.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207210.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207210.page GMT
Vero - I hope you do ^_^ This competition serves many functions for the community. As an outlet for all of those great techniques you see people trying. As the 'fire' for others to get back into this side of the hobby. And a chance to just try out something different from the same old stuff you've been painting for years!

I really do hope we get a lot of entries in for the challenge. And don't think just because you don't have a model to use for this one, that you are going to be left out. There will be more challenges down the road! With many different and fun themes.

Happy Painting!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207215.page GMT
Oh well, I have a few models I can choose from siting unprimered on my desk]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207221.page GMT GW model? and by infantry, are you just looking for non vehicle / amour value?

I was thinking possibly a MC or a non GW figure... still mounted on a 40mm base.

Also are special characters alllowed? interested in my options ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207266.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207266.page GMT GW model?[/quote]


I certainly didn't get the impression that this was supposed to be GW only, so unless someone says otherwise, I'm going to go with no, (although my entry, if I finish one, will likely be a GW model). I would strongly discourage GW models only for a competition like this - While I like GW models as much as the next guy, let's try to broaden our horizons when possible.


In the future would we be able to loosen up the scale restrictions a bit? Just because I'd like to see 15mm allowed, because it'd be nice to see Flames of War (and other 15mm games) get more representation here. I think it would be cool to see some 15mm infantry, but it would especially be good if the category involves armored vehicles and that sort of thing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207301.page GMT MCs, or say large singular models (demon prince, greater demon, etc).

I have a model I am thinking of entering which is larger than a terminator, but not MC stature...

Also, does the first shot have to bare metal/plastic or will a primered model work?


edit: the only reason I am asking is because I want to make sure what ever I come up with, and what everyone else brings, will be inline.

I can PM Grey with what I am thinking of he wants to validate it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207390.page GMT GW model? and by infantry, are you just looking for non vehicle / amour value?

I was thinking possibly a MC or a non GW figure... still mounted on a 40mm base.

Also are special characters alllowed? interested in my options [/quote]

Your model does not have to be a GW mini! In fact, mine isn't!! ^_^

However monstrous creatures wouldn't really fit the bill. The same could go for special characters. Remember, this isn't an HQ competition, it's a Tribute to the Fighting Man. Not the guy who sits up on his high horse directing people where to die ^_-.

[quote=Hordini][quote=Vero]Does it have to be a GW model?[/quote]


I certainly didn't get the impression that this was supposed to be GW only, so unless someone says otherwise, I'm going to go with no, (although my entry, if I finish one, will likely be a GW model). I would strongly discourage GW models only for a competition like this - While I like GW models as much as the next guy, let's try to broaden our horizons when possible.


In the future would we be able to loosen up the scale restrictions a bit? Just because I'd like to see 15mm allowed, because it'd be nice to see Flames of War (and other 15mm games) get more representation here. I think it would be cool to see some 15mm infantry, but it would especially be good if the category involves armored vehicles and that sort of thing.[/quote]

You're right on the money Hordini. GW is sort of the ruler by which we're guiding the challenges, it doesn't mean it's the only things allowed ^_^.

As for scale restrictions, the future will most likely hold many less of these. When we will most likely move toward more abstracted ideas. I don't want to give away too much right now, but there will be plenty of chances for other scales to compete. And no one ever said that you couldn't model the hell out of a 25mm base for a FoW piece infantryman ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207398.page GMT MCs, or say large singular models (demon prince, greater demon, etc).

I have a model I am thinking of entering which is larger than a terminator, but not MC stature...

Also, does the first shot have to bare metal/plastic or will a primered model work?


edit: the only reason I am asking is because I want to make sure what ever I come up with, and what everyone else brings, will be inline.

I can PM Grey with what I am thinking of he wants to validate it.[/quote]

See the above mate ^_^.

And the WIP may be Primer or metal, either way you're good to go.

And to anyone else, if you're not comfortable posting here, please feel free to PM me or email dakkapaintingchallenge@dakkadakka.com!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207401.page GMT
Shame, most of the stuff on my desk right now is an "HQ" type model of some kind, though I wont be using them all as HQ... most are being used as squad leaders.

Might use one of those... or put try putting some of my extras together.

I'll come up with something suitable!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/207414.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209393.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209400.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209400.page GMT
Remember deadline is [b]December 2nd by Midnight Central time![/b]

So put those final touches on your mini and get the photos emailed to DakkaPaintingChallenge@DakkaDakka.com! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209865.page GMT
Remember deadline is [b]December 2nd by Midnight Central time![/b]

So put those final touches on your mini and get the photos emailed to DakkaPaintingChallenge@DakkaDakka.com! [/quote]

Final Touches? I'm back to Starting Touches again, as I didn't like the colors.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/209868.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/211876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/211876.page GMT Someone's been watching too much Junkyard Wars/Scrapheap Challenge (could be me... )

Viperion]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/211925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/211925.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/211988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/211988.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212033.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212033.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212036.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212041.page GMT
Just a thought.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212183.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/204988/212183.page GMT