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First picture shows one of my original alpha versions. Cool idea, but I think it comes out bland.

Next two shots are my new beta version. The shoulder joints are small push pins, to give me easier posing while keeping the arms the right length. While I like the empty hood thing, the fact that the kits come with 5 robes, but only 4 hoods (a pox on whoever decided this was a good idea!!!) means I'll have 1 in 5 no hood, and thus helmet exposed, so I may just keep all their helmets visible. Could probably paint em up kind of skullish too to go with the Grim Reaper theme.

I think the new shape of the scythe blade gives it more character too. Some reference pictures of scythes I was looking at show them with a curved haft, which I may try out to break up the boxy right angle look of the weapon. I like the storm bolter better than the bolter, which also happens to be what they're supposed to have, but that may be reserved to Justicars only as Battle Wagon Bitz has been out of the storm bolters and hooded heads for several weeks now.

Thoughts, Opinions, Critiques or Flames?

edit: attaching the pictures probably helps.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256508.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256508.page GMT
The Storm Bolter looks too big. You can move this to a shoulder / backpack-mounted weapon.

The "alpha" scythe is far more correct as a farming implement, and will give better visual results to the layperson.

As a proper (i.e. historical) fighting "scythe", the overall layout is like a halberd or other pole army, with a forward-hooking single-edged blade that starts out in-line with the haft like a spear. This is an uncommon weapon, but it would look distinctive.

I will be fielding halberd-armed models. They will count as Lightning Claw Terminators. This makes my life a lot easier, as I don't need to deal with Bolter, Bolt Pistol, or Storm Botler at all.
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I think the storm bolter comes off looking larger in the beta shots because the marine in the alpha shots is enlarged (you can see some of the green stuff and plasticard), and the scythe haft of a tad longer as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256618.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256650.page GMT
I like the weapon on the alpha better too. Although the larger storm bolter could be an issue, for me it's more the blade that isn't quite right. It's too thick. The blade in the first shot is bit more balanced than the rest of the weapon. the idea of a scythe-gun is already so interesting and draws the eye- so adding an extremely thick blade puts it way over the top.

Thin out the blade by at least half, and even the storm bolter with drum will look cool. Alternately, you could move the ammo drum down a bit to be near the lower hand, just as an experiment.

Oh, and the two-handled grip in the alpha version was cool. While the way you have the beta holding his is good, that handle would look good if it were there, and a couple of the troopers were wielding them that way (like the alpha, that is).

Great concept! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256656.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/256798.page GMT
I narrowed the blade a bit, but I'm digging the wider "hook" part on the end, so I left that in there. It has character. Added a bit of length to the haft, and then put in a slight curve to help break up the right angle of it a bit. Blue tacked a couple of shoulder pads on, which helps beef the guy up, and make the storm bolter seem less bulky I think. I really want to keep the guns on the scythes as throw backs to the Nemesis Force Weapons of old.

As far as the handles, while is would be a more authentic grip, the reason I'm moving away from it is because I found it allot harder to get them to hold it varying angles. They tended to hold it level with the ground which, incidentally, is the purpose of those grips. They let you shear the wheat with nice level strokes. As fun as it might be to go thru the enemy army and cut em all down at the knees, I want more variety in poses thru the squads.

I also threw in a quick side by side of the alpha and beta so you can see their size difference. That probably would translate to a good foot of height between the two. I think the better dynamics of the beta so far make for a real nice improvement

Need to rebuild the shoulders and wrist with some green stuff befor I glue the pads on, and patch some gaps in the bolter area of the scythe, but I think this may be production pattern of how I do the rest.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257016.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257016.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257044.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257044.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257510.page GMT
Put skulls all over it, especially on the weapons. Maybe some icon-looking paintings on the hull depicting the Reaper. And of course, paint it black ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257511.page GMT GS some cloth (shrouds) on part of it, rippling backwards in the wind. Also, scythes or an hourglass on the doors and an hourglass on the front.

I'm not so into the skulls. There are more than enough of those on every GW mini ever made, IMO.

On a tangential note, you might try cutting the shoulderpads off of Maugan Ra for one of your vet sarges, if you have a spare Maugan Ra lying around. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/257546.page GMT FLGS to give the robe some clearance over the base to make it easier to flock em, and then to not have them dragging their robes thru it. I did also give him a new scythe blade, but only because I wanted to use his first one as my template to trace all the later ones. You also get to see arms with new shoulders just because.

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[quote]Probably soon, you can always sign up for the email notification on the site, so when they do come it they you are not out bought.[/quote]

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259331.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259331.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259333.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259386.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259398.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259543.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259574.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259652.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/259652.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260302.page GMT lol. Very cool looking conversions so far. However, with all those hoods on how are you going to make one of these guys screaming as he has the giant scythe raised over his head? It's in the Space Marine rulez that they have to be shouting isn't it? Anyways, very cool looking and I'm interested to see what you do with a Dreadnought/Vehicle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260585.page GMT I am going to have to remember the push pin trick too, that is damn clever.
I think I might have make the scyth blades a tad smaller, but then have a weapon with a blade bigger than you is pretty much GW standard, so they should fit in just fine.

Where did you get the censor hand and backpack with the candle? I have never seen those before.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260703.page GMT CC weapon or other, probably from the command squad sprue. However, I'm sure you're more interested in the censor itself, which along with the backpack are from the same Dark Angles sprues those robes guys are from. Also comes with several other different looking censors and backpacks, along with a host of assorted goodies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260710.page GMT lol. Very cool looking conversions so far. However, with all those hoods on how are you going to make one of these guys screaming as he has the giant scythe raised over his head? It's in the Space Marine rulez that they have to be shouting isn't it? Anyways, very cool looking and I'm interested to see what you do with a Dreadnought/Vehicle.[/quote]

Technically the Justicar is yelling, but once I secure a supply of hooded heads his losing his face so you won't be able to tell anymore. The next Justicar will be holding his scythe up in the air however, so rest easy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260713.page GMT FLGS game night tomorrow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260765.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260765.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260808.page GMT GW arms on it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260835.page GMT GW arms on it.[/quote]

Oops? I think if it was anything other than smooth robes I'd be screwed. I can't get sharp detail into. On that note, I dislike how the shoulders turned out on this guy. On power armor, when you stretch an arm out away from the body, the pauldron will slide around the shoulder onto the back a bit. On the terminator it didn't work out like that. I'm not sure if it's added thickness from robes, where I positioned the arms, or just inherent to the fig and that's why you tend to see terminators with their arms reaching forward and not to the sides. The result with this guy is you see more of the shoulder itself under the pauldrons. I've smoothed it out, and tried to sculpt in the armpit flexing, but I don't think it's turned out as well as the rest of the robes. At least it's a smaller detail, but if/when I do terminator squads, I'll be more careful with the arm poses to minimize alterations to their shoulders.

Next major project with these guys would be their dreadnought. That's going to be one heck of a lot of green stuff. Don't expect it anytime soon though. I want to finish up the squads of power armor first, 3 squads of 8, and I'm waiting on Battlewagon Bitz to restock before I can do much of anymore of them. Likely my last "major" update on this project until then, unless I can actually get caught up painting my Eldar and get some of these guys done up. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260880.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/260880.page GMT
To start off, a couple of shots of my Brother Captain with all his bling, and primed so I could see how the green stuff blended in when you couldn't tell where it ended and the plastic began.

edit: Bonus! Thread revival nicely starting off on page 2!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286986.page GMT
The second picture has the knights showing off their fancy new pauldrons. I had been using plain pads for the left side, but I ran out of spare ones of those. I got to looking at what I had, and thought about the Dark Angel pads with just the single sword on them. The symbol of the Grey Knights is a book overlaid with a sword, and since I was making my Grey Knights out of the Dark Angels boxes, I would have just as many of the pauldrons as I would have Grey Knights, making it perfect. I've not decided if I'll try to sculpt the books onto them, or just paint them on later. As these guys are still way down on my list of things to paint, I've got plenty of time to decide.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286992.page GMT
Wait... All you get to see are the arms and feet... Doesn't the Dark Angel boxes I've been building my troops out of come with a set of Terminator legs and arms? Could I make a good looking Terminator with nothing but a blob of green stuff for his torso? I bet I could...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286994.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286994.page GMT
Here's a shot on the scale/size of the various types. The Brother Captain was made to be bigger than a normal terminator, and his scythe is a fair bit longer than anyone else's. He's just BA like that. The normal Terminator is pretty much even in size with a standard Terminator, maybe a slight bit taller because of the robe's thickness. His scythe is a tad longer than the basic knights, but not by a whole lot.

My current plans calls for 5 boxes of Dark Angels to make all my troops, which will give me (better double check my math) 5 Terminators. My current thought is to run 2 squads of 3, so I'll have to find the bits for the last guy somewhere, which shouldn't be hard, and really works out quite well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/286996.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/287104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/287104.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/288689.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/288689.page GMT
Warning: Covering vents on back of armour is a fire risk. Please make sure all flammable materials are kept away from the vents, which may get hot during use.
Oh well, guess fire awareness doesnt come into play while kicking ass and taking names, and looking mighty fine while doing it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/289037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/289037.page GMT FLGS. I'll have to proxy one terminator because I ran out of Green Stuff, but otherwise I think I pretty much got what I need to get done done for the moment. I'll post more of some of the new stuff tomorrow as I want to get my five hours of sleep befor I have to get up for work, but I thought I'd at least throw in a nice group shot of all the wraiths I've gotten done so far.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/292115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/292115.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/292775.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/292775.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/295252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/295252.page GMT
So I'm working on these guys again. Still not painted anything yet, but I think I'm going to soon because I think the new washes will make what I want to do look cool. So what makes a resurrection of this thread worth it then? Easy. I'm finally doing the Dreadnought I've been wanting to do, and have the first two WIP shots of him to post.

First picture has him quite naked, showing off a little bit of pre green stuff work. If you're wondering on the odd possition of the shot, when he's finished, he'll be looking and aiming right at you from that angle. Second picture just has some space filling under the main torso, ball extended ball joints on the shoulders, and a redone sarcophagus to better seat his head.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/332075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/332075.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/332082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/332082.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/342761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/342761.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/343021.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/343021.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/343098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/343098.page GMT and a little off topic question for you: do youknow any good techniques for painting grey knights cos im totally bummed]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366211.page GMT mon
need an update on that dread

and hughzle, quick and simple way of painting GK's:

armour:
spray black
coat with watered down blue ink (should just give the model a blue tint)
highlight with mithril silver.

gold:
paint with shining gold
brown ink it
highlight with shining gold.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366290.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366290.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366349.page GMT mon, update us.

You know you want to.

Excellent work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366811.page GMT trust me

Only thing i might say about them is that maybe on your cloaks try to add a bit more detail and make the flows of the cloak more "natural"

Really well done though, you should definitly be proud of urself]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366859.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/366859.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/367042.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/367042.page GMT
Step one: Dig out your terminator armor.

Step two: Buy robe big enough for 7 foot tall person

Step three: Drape! Drape! Drape! It'll look fabulous.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/367074.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/208665/367074.page GMT