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Anonymous — GMT

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Re:Article Discussion: Articles

legoburner — GMT

I have redesigned the articles home page now to be more like wikipedia's homepage (I assume that since they are the most popular wiki on the planet, they are doing something right with their homepage, so have liberally borrowed ideas from them!) As always, I would be interested to hear ideas and opinions on the changes from anyone. Next stop, the army profiles home page.

Article Discussion: Articles

malfred — GMT

I like what you did with the Articles page. It will take some
time for me to get used to deciphering it. How often did
you want to rotate featured articles? I was thinking we
could alternate between updating different boxes, or did
you want something more like Black Gobbo with the
weekly/biweekly/whatever it is schedule and just redo
everything?

Re:Article Discussion: Articles

legoburner — GMT

I was thinking every week or so, or whenever we add an especially great new article. If you or other article mods go to edit it, you will see that there are some comments indicating the places to edit to update the content, so you shouldnt need to worry about the more complex bits of formatting that area there.

Article Discussion: Articles

malfred — GMT

Okay, just don't get mad at us when the thing comes out
all wonky.

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

So the 'readers comments' feature needs a revamp.

It places comments directly into a well laid out article (with a RED font, like some teacher has scored your paper...wtf?) and ruins it.

It's a free edit of the article that does not trigger a notice to the article author.

I moved all the stupid comments in the CSM tactica to the bottom, I'd rather just delete them since it forces me to accept the comments and discussion of an article should not occur WITHIN the article but I've left them for now. You can view the history and see how bad it looks.

Hopefully that feature will be reworked. It's absolutely horrible as it is.

Sadly I noted this was done by yakface manually.

Please man, don't ruin articles that way. Let's find another way to incorporate user comments.

Article Discussion: Articles

malfred — GMT

Yeah I noticed that, and had a flamewar with yakface about
it (nah, just a pm discussion about how to handle
disagreements within an article's tactica).

Wikis are weird for commenting systems. They're moderated
in a way that most blogs and discussions aren't, yet open
in a way that regular websites aren't. Some of the wikis
use trusted users more stringently than others, whereas
others allow for multi-user edits in order to gather vast
amounts of information.

I don't have an answer. When you open up the system
you encourage more users, but when you lock it down
you preserve the content. We'll have to start another
thread, probably in nuts and bolts, to compare wikis,
their functions and their management just to decide
what works best for Dakka.

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

Sounds like a plan.

I look forward to reading your post!

Re:Article Discussion: Articles

legoburner — GMT

In the true spirit of a wiki, those comments should not be in the article. They were tolerated as they predate the proper article discussion forum threads (like this one), which are now the proper place for those sorts of questions/comments. Ideally they should now be totally edited out and any changes worth keeping merged in to place with the rest of the article. A summary of the Q&A should then be posted in the thread relating to the article found using the 'discuss this article' link at the bottom of an article. The articles should read like articles, not like forum threads.

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

Done.

Will someone (we do have article mods, right?) please change the name of the Chaos Space Marine Tactica article back to Chaos Space Marine Template since it isn't a tactica in the first place.

Article Discussion: Articles

malfred — GMT

The problem with the word Template is that we use it for
Article Templates. Also, I don't think I can rename article
names, but I can create new ones, cut and paste the content
and delete the old ones. Legoburner also showed me how
to do a redirect once.

Let's fish for a word. I do like template for this sort of
thing, I just don't like the conflict with legoburner's setup.

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

Hmmm but there are no 'articles' calling themselves templates.

I don't think you'll confuse anyone by including the word template in an article title...won't people know it's a template if we call it 'Chaos Space Marine Army Creation Template'?

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

http://encarta.msn.com/thesaurus_561590388/template.html

Model, outline, pattern?

Outline seems closest to 'right' for me, what do you think?

Article Discussion: Articles

malfred — GMT

If you look at All Articles: http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Special:Allpages

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Modeling_Template

etc.

Re:Article Discussion: Articles

legoburner — GMT

Malf, if you click the 'move' tab when logged in with admin privs, you can enter a new name for an article. This will set up an automatic redirect from the old title to the new one as well.

Article Discussion: Articles

malfred — GMT

Sweet.

What am I moving it to?

Re:Article Discussion: Articles

legoburner — GMT

While it could pass as a tactica in my opinion, how about "Chaos Space Marines Army Analysis"?

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

Works for me.

Article Discussion: Articles

yakface — GMT

BTW Stelek,

All I did was to put borders around Xen's comments in your article and call them "reader response" so that no one would confuse what he was writing with your original article. In other words, I was trying to preserve the integrity of your article rather than ruin it.

I figured at some point you'd come back and check on your article and decide how or if to address his comments.

FYI, you can be subscribed to your articles so that anytime someone makes a change you get an email. I'd suggest using that option if you're concerned about people mangling the intent of your article.

Also, upon request to the mods your article can be made 'read only' so that no one can contribute to it if you'd like.

Article Discussion: Articles

Stelek — GMT

I was set to susbcribe to it.

When you moved the article, my 'subscribe' status was removed.

I've since resubscribed, and if the article gets 'moved' against to rename it I'll go back in and make sure I stay subscribed.

I think the failure was the actual comments aren't in a thread, the article was just edited and under none of the history or the various threads created for it did I see his edits show up.

I'm assuming this was the old system and this problem won't recur?