http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/6.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net FW has released [url=http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/wepreview.htm]preview pictures of Khorne conversion kits for CSMs and Terminators[/url].

They look pretty good -- although the Berzerkers look ridiculous from the belt down, due to GW's inexplicably ridiculous space marine leg proportions and stances.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262314.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262314.page GMT
I like the power armored dudes a lot, quite mean looking. I think the legs don't detract too badly, though the guy on the right has some skinny legs and the classic 'takin' a dump' stance

The termi I don't like, stupid hose-mustachio head and bunny ears attached to armor = dumb.

Another thought, would it have killed them to make a resin chainaxe arm for each dude? Sooooo need me some chainaxes on anything but the ancient zerker plastics.

And just to reinforce, wow they're heads just look mean, little teeth inside the grills and everything

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262318.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262321.page GMT CSM belt buckles, and I love the battle damage. And the Terminator head is awesome.

I like these much better than the Nurgle options. That said, I'm much more interested in the Slaaneshi and Tzeentchian options the distant future might hold.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262332.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262334.page GMT Aye, might be fairly distant at that. Vraks II is apparently "Blood & Guts" flavored, no "Weird Sex" coupling this time around. Very very curious what else is going to hit by summer though, got Games Day preordering to think about ...

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262336.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262336.page GMT GW metal ones. The teeth in the WE's grill was bad ass tho.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262338.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262338.page GMT
Angry is much tougher to do, y'know?

That being said, the hoses going into the Terminator's nostrils is kinda creepin me out. I wonder what kind of combat drugs they're pumping him with (wait a minute... combat drugs are slaanesh's domain), but it certainly is getting the job done. Alternately, maybe he needs oxygen, being the "mr. burns" of the world eaters?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262343.page GMT Hilariously, I sent my brother the pics and he had the same reaction to the "old people" hoses in the termi's nose. "They're old and all, but not that old"

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262345.page GMT
I love the teeth in the grill of the power armour, but I just can't get over that monstrous "Hosetachio"...
I can just see him, striding the battlefield and shouting in a nasal voice: "[b]Hnood bor de Hnood Wod[/b]!"

Bye, Modhail]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262346.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262346.page GMT de Hnood Wod[/b]!" [/quote]

Man, if I was drinking anything while I read that I would have snarfed it right out my nose....

Okay, the respirator teeth are pretty cool, and that bare head is way better than the previous Berzerker vampire head, but the gashed helmet I can do with an exacto knife.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262349.page GMT
You just named the difference. If you just want Berserkers the regular plastics will do. If you want to make a World Eaters specific army then these are what you will want, or at least a few to add in. Remember kids that not all Bersekers are World Eaters, but all World Eaters are...well, you know.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262402.page GMT
Here comes "Termie Cottontail"
Hopping down the Blood God trail
Hippity Hopping bloodshed's on the way.


Bunny Eared Terminator looks Stew-ped.
Like the Power Armor, though.



Eric]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262407.page GMT
I would rather they model them on the Terminator's helmet though.

I should add I find it rather fitting that the worshippers of Khorne wear 'bunny-ears' as a religious observance. Lately I've been pondering whether my Marines should have Usaginar as their homeworld, but not all of them have the 'bunny-ears' (the rest have MkVI helmets) and Usaginari going into battle topless would just be unseemly. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262418.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262447.page GMT
The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262454.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262454.page GMT
The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne. [/quote]

That's a load of and boring to boot. Giving a termie the Mark of Khorne doesn't fuly represent the true awesome fury of the World Eaters.

Still at the moment it is the only option if your playing in a tournament setting. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262459.page GMT GW was a meany and took away your rules. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262461.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262463.page GMT GW was a meany and took away your rules. [/quote]

Well duh. And I don't have to cry like a baby you jackass. I've been playing since Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned and have watched them slowly neuter the Chaos fluff and army. That's ok, things change, and I'm not discounting the new codex, but I can also note that it isn't as interesting in fluff or options.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262465.page GMT GW spoon-fed you everything you needed to know about Chaos. I particularly like the new Chaos book; it got me back into Warhammer 40k - I think it's more characterful, flexible, and chaotic than any of the previous books, including Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned. Better layout too. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262469.page GMT is an untrained eye when it comes to Chaos.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262471.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262471.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262477.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262477.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262478.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262478.page GMT
Rbb: Damn, I need to get a lick of paint on my Devastators/Havocs and my Librarian/Sorcerer then! I would have a Chaplain, but I need the space for a Captain/Chaos Lord. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262479.page GMT GW was a meany and took away your rules. [/quote]
Jeez dude, who shat in your cornflakes? Does someone need a hug?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262482.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262482.page GMT GW was a meany and took away your rules. [/quote]
Jeez dude, who shat in your cornflakes? Does someone need a hug?[/quote]

I think your avatar has one ready.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262484.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262490.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262490.page GMT
The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne. [/quote]

That's a load of and boring to boot. Giving a termie the Mark of Khorne doesn't fuly represent the true awesome fury of the World Eaters.[/quote]
Well, ya see Ahtman, the Chaos legions do things differently than the loyalist chapters. As you probably know, among the loyalists entombment in a dreadnought is considered a great honor while on the other hand in the Chaos legions it is a fate worse than death. What you may not have known is that for some legions this dichotomy extends to tactical dreadnought armor as well. For example, among the World Eaters, being forced to don a suit of terminator armor is considered a severe punishment since the bulky armor makes it more difficult to advance after fleeing enemy and makes it practically impossible to do so sweepingly. Thus only less skilled and more cowardly World Eaters are made to wear terminator armor - this is why, unlike their power armored brethren, they only have WS4 and aren't Fearless. I hope this has resolved any issues you may have had with the new Chaos codex. Thanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262492.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262492.page GMT
You know, the more i look at it, the more that cracked helmet looks cool--you can actually see the facial features underneath, which can add a bit of fun character/fleshtones to your normally red & brazen colored army... okay, not that much, but it is kinda nifty.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262496.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262496.page GMT GW World Eaters and the FW World Eaters. I'll let you decide which looks cooler. (I hope this works, never posted pics on Dakka.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262497.page GMT FW has released [url=http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/wepreview.htm]preview pictures of Khorne conversion kits for CSMs and Terminators[/url].

They look pretty good -- although the Berzerkers look ridiculous from the belt down, due to GW's inexplicably ridiculous space marine leg proportions and stances.[/quote]

Fact - These will be too expensive for anyone but the most braindead of fanboys to bother with.

Fact - Those are the current plastic CSM legs.. so that means you have to waste a significant portion of a CSM box to use these.

Fact - They will not be attainable through GWUS since FW is acting like twits to the US market again.

Fact - These models are only as good as the rules they have in the current CSM codex.... ie: complete garbage. (Hwang will now reply.)

Fact - Even if I was not on a complete GW Moratorium, I would file these under "Duly Noted and Summarily Ignored".

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Nah, your rationalization doesn't work well for me, though it is a creative and not bad at all. As I stated, I'm not discounting the new Codex. It is a good Codex for competitive balanced lists and Renegade marines. It is not good for representing the specific aligned Legions: Death Guard, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, and Emperor's Children. Now this is my opinion and one I am allowed to have. Just because some little pissant internet fanboy apparently doesn't like anyone to disagree with him does not mean I'm not going to. If the new codex was so all encompassing they probably wouldn't need to release a Demon Codex or drop hints about the Legions getting some special rules down the line.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262550.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262550.page GMT
And for some reason, Nurglitch reminds me of Captain Beatty from Fahrenheit 451. Sorry for the off topic-ness.

On topic: the khorne termie ears do bug me. They're too monolithic, besides the khorne symbols alone are enough to left a viewer know what god the model is associated with. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262558.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262566.page GMT
EErmmm WTF? where did you find this little bit of (fluff).. that sounds like someone rationalizing why certain rules are the way they are into some sort of goofy fluff. which are entirely wrong.

A terminator of any kind, whether bezerker or androgenous is not a curse nor a punishment. It's a different armament that quite frankly works in both fluff and rules and needs no further goofy comment about it. Lol, a punishment, .... good one.. llollerskates!!!one11OOLL]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262649.page GMT
If it were possible to convince people that your opinion is right by talking to them there wouldn't have been any reason to invent swords, knives, guns, bombs, big pointy sticks, etc., etc. Usually the only way to convince someone of the absolute rightness of your opinion is blunt force trauma to the head.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262651.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262651.page GMT If it were possible to convince people that your opinion is right by talking to them there wouldn't have been any reason to invent swords, knives, guns, bombs, big pointy sticks, etc., etc. Usually the only way to convince someone of the absolute rightness of your opinion is blunt force trauma to the head.[/quote]

Right, because only in death do the concede to your way of thinking ..... Um.... NO]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262653.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262653.page GMT
I agree. I'm not trying to convince anyone to believe what I do, just stating that is how I feel. I say I prefer Coke and that there is nothing wrong with Pepsi and I have Pepsi fans snarling and going into gran mal seizures. I know part of my reaction was my surprise to see such an asinine comment as "cry like a little baby because big daddy GW was a meany and took away your rules". To top it off, after starting the whole thing with such an unnecessary comment, it then tried to take the high road. Either obvious troll is obvious or they are not smart enough to see their own hypocrisy. I generally expect better from Dakka; this isn't 4chan, and it caught me off guard.

I don't see how pointing out that plastic Berserkers aren't the same as World Eaters is much different then pointing out that plastic marine box isn't the same as the Red Scorpions. It's just a generic box that you can paint up to be Red Scorpions, but if you have the FW resin parts you really have the look. Of course you still have to use the Marine Codex to play them in a structured event without any special IA rules. You don't have to buy the FW stuff at all though. It came from the question as to why would these be better then just the basic Berserker box and the answer was, and still is, because these are the World Eaters. It has nothing to do with rules implementation, what version of the game you are playing, or even playing the game with the models. The difference is that these are a specific Legion and if you want to capture that in your modeling these are here to help.

As to the rules, this isn't that complicated either, but I'll restate it anyway. I think the older fluff and rules were more interesting, this isn't a zero sum equation. I can appreciate the older stuff and still think the newer one is ok to. I don't have to hate the new stuff just because I like the older stuff better. I think that the new codex is fine and represents Renegade Marines just fine, but it doesn't represent the Legions that well in my opinion. GW seems to be splitting up Chaos though and I wouldn't be surprised to see something down the line. As it is now what would have been a $20 purchase is now $40 (Renegade Marines + Demon Armies) and if they do something to represent the oldest, angriest marines that have lived in the Eye of Terror in another book later that is another $20. Not bad marketing really, they've been doing to Marines for years.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262654.page GMT
EErmmm WTF? where did you find this little bit of (fluff).. that sounds like someone rationalizing why certain rules are the way they are into some sort of goofy fluff. which are entirely wrong.[/quote]I recommend you retune your sarcasmometer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262676.page GMT
Thank you for brightening my day with your wonderful post about the Legion's tactical dreadnought armor dichotomy. Your well thought-out rationalization has certainly convinced me, and I am now well on my way to resolving my issues regarding the new Chaos codex.

Thanks,

-Hordini



Dear everyone who replied to Abbadoobie's post seriously,

You make me chuckle.

Thanks,

-Hordini]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262687.page GMT That's actually an OPINION, not a fact.
The fact is that some people like the look of Khorne and still collect the models.
The fact is that some people still like Khorne.
Those people (and the wealthy people who can afford it) will purchase/strive to purchase these models.


[quote]Fact - Those are the current plastic CSM legs.. so that means you have to waste a significant portion of a CSM box to use these.[/quote]
Again, that's opinion.
You can use them for Khorne Bikers (I wouldn't... but there are those who would) or you can buy the legs as bits.


[quote]Fact - They will not be attainable through GWUS since FW is acting like twits to the US market again.[/quote]
Again... that's opinion.
They will be as attainable as anything else from FW, considering their recent delays. That means you cna get them, but you'll have to wait for them.

[quote]Fact - These models are only as good as the rules they have in the current CSM codex.... ie: complete garbage. (Hwang will now reply.)[/quote]
That's 4 opinions in a row.
The models have nothing to do with the rules.
These model kits are very well done, and look incredible.

I won't comment on your rules opinion.

Eric]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262695.page GMT
EErmmm WTF? where did you find this little bit of (fluff).. that sounds like someone rationalizing why certain rules are the way they are into some sort of goofy fluff. which are entirely wrong.[/quote]I recommend you retune your sarcasmometer.[/quote]

or perhaps...... looks like everyone's sarcasometer is a bit malfunctioning.. sheesh... can't anyone have a bit o' fun at someone else's expense without getting piled on? no? oh well, looks like similar to Wil E. Coyote, it's back to the drawing board and more acme stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262704.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262746.page GMT
FW go miles towards correcting the proportion problems in IG figs, while still keeping them "heroic". I wish they could apply the same skill to the CSMs. The legs inside that armor must be skinnier than Kieth Richards', even if it's ceramispandex.

I personally like the nose-hose on the termi, and think t will look cooler when painted. It does give me Welcome Back Kotter flashbacks, though. "Up your nose with a rubber hose!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262754.page GMT
(Hm. That's a conversion that needs doing - Long Fangs on O2...maybe one in a wheelchair)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262767.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262767.page GMT
WAIT .. doesn't the armor make the marine a terminator (short for space marine in tactical dreadnaught armor) rather than the marine making the armor a terminator?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262794.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262802.page GMT [/quote] I believe they are upgrade kits rather than full out kits. not sure why though. maybe forge world is not authorized to do a full up kit if there is already a model available for that.. just a guess though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262818.page GMT
BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262852.page GMT GW simply added moar skulls, spikes & screaming...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262953.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/262953.page GMT
EErmmm WTF? where did you find this little bit of (fluff).. that sounds like someone rationalizing why certain rules are the way they are into some sort of goofy fluff. which are entirely wrong.[/quote]
Well, that's just like, your [i]opinion[/i], man...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263022.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263055.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263254.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263322.page GMT
Sure I'd get them if I was doing world eaters, but I'm not.

So a 'must have' option for the fanatics/those who like converted armies....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263329.page GMT
WAIT .. doesn't the armor make the marine a terminator (short for space marine in tactical dreadnaught armor) rather than the marine making the armor a terminator?[/quote]

Ah, but then again the non-spiked slightly-less-angry good guy marines have guys running around in power armor with Terminator Honors who have been rewarded for their courage and experience with the ability to swing their chainswords slightly faster. However, according to the SM Codex these guys are [i]generally[/i] referred to as Veteran Sergeants. So, are they Terminators, or do they just have the right to wear the armor? When will GW stop screwing around with all those stupid rules questions and finally release a FAQ that answers the important stuff like this?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263344.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263391.page GMT
(Hm. That's a conversion that needs doing - Long Fangs on O2...maybe one in a wheelchair)[/quote]

You, sir, need to come clean the Mt. Dew off my monitor. I can't get that image out of my mind... now, I need to find a pewter wheelchair and convert a longfang sergeant for my buddy.

[quote=two_heads_talking][quote=George Spiggott]Nice face, shame about the legs. Why aren't these full resin models? [/quote] I believe they are upgrade kits rather than full out kits. not sure why though. maybe forge world is not authorized to do a full up kit if there is already a model available for that.. just a guess though.[/quote]

I wonder if they didn't just cut an easy route... why do a full conversion if the legs are adequate? I agree that the proportions aren't that grand, but they're not that bad, either... and I suspect the angle of the photo has something to do with that as well. Maybe it's all the extra bits & bobbins on the top half; kinda like those cartoon strong men with tiny little legs and barrel chests & arms. If you add the side satchel and some other grenades, etc. to the legs, it'll bulk out a bit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263398.page GMT [/quote] I believe they are upgrade kits rather than full out kits. not sure why though. maybe forge world is not authorized to do a full up kit if there is already a model available for that.. just a guess though.[/quote]

I wonder if they didn't just cut an easy route... why do a full conversion if the legs are adequate?[/quote]
I'm guessing they didn't do legs because they don't want to eat into GW Chaos Terminator box set sales. Putting out models that compete directly with GW plastic kits is probably a no-no so they stick to "conversion kits". This is why there are no legs - legs are used as the limiting factor in GW plastic marine kits. You always end up with an abundance of torsos/heads/arms, but are limited in the number of complete models you can construct by the numbers of legs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263685.page GMT
(Hm. That's a conversion that needs doing - Long Fangs on O2...maybe one in a wheelchair)[/quote]

You, sir, need to come clean the Mt. Dew off my monitor. I can't get that image out of my mind... now, I need to find a pewter wheelchair and convert a longfang sergeant for my buddy.[/quote]

There is aheroclix professor X, if I'm not mistaken. That might be a good place to start.

Back on topic, how hard is it to biggerize terminator legs, folks? Who's tried it?

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263691.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263691.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263715.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263746.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263785.page GMT GW World Eaters and the FW World Eaters. I'll let you decide which looks cooler. (I hope this works, never posted pics on Dakka.[/quote]

Mmm, I actually like the standard GW minis a little bit better. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263795.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263795.page GMT GW World Eaters and the FW World Eaters. I'll let you decide which looks cooler. (I hope this works, never posted pics on Dakka.[/quote]

Mmm, I actually like the standard GW minis a little bit better. [/quote]

I think it's because the standard ones are painted. If those FW models had a 'Eavy Metal paint job on them I think people's reactions would be a bit more positive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263877.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263877.page GMT GW one (not comparing the termies here). I do like the powerfist on the FW termie better. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263881.page GMT FW termie better. [/quote]
It is a nicer sculpt. Shouldn't it have more skulls though?

[quote=Savnock]There is aheroclix professor X, if I'm not mistaken. That might be a good place to start.[/quote]
Hm. What would you name that model? Professor Ulrik? Professor Ragnar? Xavier the Slayer?

Ah. Professor Bjorn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263887.page GMT Accepting the new you: the geneseed insertion process
Professor Ragnar
TA: Xavier the Slayer


This course is meant to give the student a quick overview of the geneseed insertion process. While this procedure is invasive and physical healing is often required due to the size of the insertion tool, the student will learn coping mechanisms so his battlefield performance is not hampered. After the initial geneseed insertion, students will be given a physical and those who exhibit physical coping stress (the student's gait will be scrutinized) will be required to take a corequisite -SM117: Physical Therapy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263933.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263933.page GMT Accepting the new you: the geneseed insertion process
Professor Ragnar
TA: Xavier the Slayer


This course is meant to give the student a quick overview of the geneseed insertion process. While this procedure is invasive and physical healing is often required due to the size of the insertion tool, the student will learn coping mechanisms so his battlefield performance is not hampered. After the initial geneseed insertion, students will be given a physical and those who exhibit physical coping stress (the student's gait will be scrutinized) will be required to take a corequisite -SM117: Physical Therapy.[/quote]

I've been reading KK's posts too much. Does anyone else see a "between the lines" thing here?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/263943.page GMT Accepting the new you: the geneseed insertion process
Professor Ragnar
TA: Xavier the Slayer


This course is meant to give the student a quick overview of the geneseed insertion process. While this procedure is invasive and physical healing is often required due to the size of the insertion tool, the student will learn coping mechanisms so his battlefield performance is not hampered. After the initial geneseed insertion, students will be given a physical and those who exhibit physical coping stress (the student's gait will be scrutinized) will be required to take a corequisite -SM117: Physical Therapy.[/quote]

I've been reading KK's posts too much. Does anyone else see a "between the lines" thing here?[/quote]
NO!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/264162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/264162.page GMT Accepting the new you: the geneseed insertion process
Professor Ragnar
TA: Xavier the Slayer


This course is meant to give the student a quick overview of the geneseed insertion process. While this procedure is invasive and physical healing is often required due to the size of the insertion tool, the student will learn coping mechanisms so his battlefield performance is not hampered. After the initial geneseed insertion, students will be given a physical and those who exhibit physical coping stress (the student's gait will be scrutinized) will be required to take a corequisite -SM117: Physical Therapy.[/quote]

I've been enjoying KK's posts just enough. Does anyone else see a "between the sheets" thing here?[/quote]

Fixed your post.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/264211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/264211.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290231.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290231.page GMT
BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290235.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290235.page GMT
The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne. [/quote]

By your logic, GW needs to roll Space wolves, Balck Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and every other loyalist chapter back in to teh space marine book, because their all a piece of background, not a set of rules.

So you'll agree loyalists dont need rules either.....right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290248.page GMT
The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne. [/quote]

By your logic, GW needs to roll Space wolves, Balck Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and every other loyalist chapter back in to teh space marine book, because their all a piece of background, not a set of rules.

So you'll agree loyalists dont need rules either.....right?[/quote]

I'd agree to that. But as long as they make a divergent SM codex, I will buy it and play it]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290358.page GMT
I'd agree to that. But as long as they make a divergent SM codex, I will buy it and play it[/quote]

if their going to make divergent space marine ones, there is no reason not to make chaos ones. no difference in logic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290409.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290413.page GMT
They must have been born after the Squats were eaten. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290421.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290493.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/209250/290493.page GMT