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It's obvious Farsight no longer is loyal to the so called 'Greater Good' but who does he really support in the long run, as I can't find a definate answer for this I thought I'd ask what other people thought]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282610.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282616.page GMT
I wonder if they still have glow sticks in the 41st millenium? Maybe its what powers Imperial lasguns?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282618.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282620.page GMT
Could be Chaos. Ars-Moloch(?) was an artifact world with a history of marines cleansing a cult. (although I think this was post-Tau Codex).

Could be Eldar. A decent case could be made that it is a lost weapon of Vaul. I don't know where "Dawn Blade" came from but it sounds Eldar-ish.

The size of the blade suggests it wasn't wielded by a man-sized creature. It may account for the longevity of Farsight, but then a more mundane explanation works just as well.

I doubt GW will ever say what it is. I like it that way as it avoids the Chaos Tau nonsense and I can theme my Farsight army to whatever I want without fanboys rolling their eyes.
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I know Xenology's not an official source of fluff but they strongly imply that the Eldar accelerated the Tau's development. Humans, too, which makes sense cause we look just like them, but that's a whole other thread.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282677.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282677.page GMT i dont think its chaos im sire it says somewhere the tau dont register in the warp (or something like that) and chaos things that dont register the warp is just wrong]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282779.page GMT
Alternatively, he could be deeply in the pocket of the Ethereals, conducting missions and handling things that the Ethereals don't want the main line Fire Caste knowing about. One of the big deals for the Tau is that all Tau life is sacred, and they don't like suicide missions and glorious last stands. The problem is, there are times when you need that sort of action, and it might be good to have Farsight around to create a sort of unofficial periphery, that while the Empire can't support or protect, will serve to slow down an invading force. Farsight can also engage enemies that the Tau are not at war with, weakening them while the Empire stays officially neutral.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/282792.page GMT
I feel inclined to support dmkjesus though, the planet which he found it on had some form of pre-eldar type ruins on it, which are more often than not necron, unless it was Old ones ruins, which would put a whole new spin on things...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283142.page GMT GW will trot out the old nugget of "chaos artifact/eldar rune/C'tan phase knife." GW is nothing if not predictible with it's fluff.

Personally, I really like the idea of the Tau getting their little hooves dirty....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283303.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283303.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283959.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283961.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/283961.page GMT
how i got that the tau are followers of the dragon is because of how machine oriented their race is. also they are a highly ordered society which is a trait of the mechanicus (they get from the god they worship). the tau developed very rapidly and from the ethereal help which seem like priests of the dragon to me, and too rapidly to have been natural and without outside help]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284139.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284451.page GMT
Also the Outsider can't be the Nid hive mind, being anti warp, and the nids using the warp for synapse-correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Also theres a strong chance that Farsight never met any of the Ctan, just found the sword, prehaps after deciding he didn't like licking Ethereal boots and went renegade]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284490.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284490.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284529.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284529.page GMT
As for the sword, I've always thought that the name "Dawn Blade" pointed directly towards it being one of the swords of Vaul. I'm under the impression the last sword, which Vaul fought Khaine with, was called "Anaris the Dawnlight". Dawnlight...Dawn Blade...close enough for me, especially with the way GW is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284538.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284538.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/284698.page GMT
Also with farsights use of combat why cant he use kroot, it just doesnt make sense]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285089.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285100.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285107.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285143.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285143.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285267.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285267.page GMT
I think you mean Puerto Rico, unless the US foreign agenda has gone Monroe Doctrine again.

M.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/285524.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/286521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/286521.page GMT
The idea of Farsight still serving the empire is qhite interesting though. But wasn't Shadowsun sent out to catch him? And how does that work with the sacking of Aun Shi?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/286533.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/286533.page GMT
Also Shadowsun isn't up to much-in every UK White Dwarf battle rep shes been in shes died-she isnt much cop on Farsight]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/286867.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/286867.page GMT
Bastirous666 mentioned that the Dawn Blade could be the work of their "God". That automatically couldn't be true as the Tau don't understand the concept of there being a God, therefore they do not worship one. They cannot grasp the concept of there being something that exists but is not tangible.

Storm Lord: Yes the Kroot are mercenaries to the Tau but they are [i]exclusive[/i] mercenaries. They have been absorbed into the Empire. Although there have been rumours of Kroot working for other races.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287169.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287169.page GMT
Second, part of working in secret means lying, and having shadowsun publicly disown the works of Farsight is a very public way to show that the Ethereals don't support what farsight does. It does not show what the actual relationship is between Farsight and the Ethereals.

For being a "rebel," Farsight is pretty boring. All he's basically done is fortify the frontier of the Tau Empire in a way that the ethereals can't do themselves. They can't because they value life, and won't establish garrisons that they can't support. The Tau empire can't afford to commit enough materail to that region, but a group of motivated partisans, willing to sell their lives, could hold off any invading force for long enough for the tau (who don't have full warp travel) to respond to the threat.

Either Farsight is working secretly for the ethereals, or he's working in such a way as to further the overall goals of the Tau. Shadowsun wasn't sent to bring him in, but she did lead the third sphere expansion, while Farsight has gone all Col Kurtz and is plowing through the orks near the damocles gulf.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287337.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287337.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287341.page GMT [img]http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/751/751133/lost-planet-vital-suits-part-1-20061214043444825.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287356.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287356.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287359.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287359.page GMT
Officially they are exclusive. Read the codex big guy. That doesn't mean that they don't work for other races as well under the table. The Tau are aware of this but just look the other direction on account of their usefulness as meat shields.

Anyways I doubt Farsight would be working for Ethereals. He pretty much outright denounced them. And judging from the kind of personality GW has seemed to give him I don't think he would be dealing with them in secret. Then again it is GW. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287576.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287576.page GMT
Take your own advice, it says that not all kindreds took the oath that Angkor Prok established, these kindreds fight for who ever is willing. Also, they even have a kroot mercenary army list that isn't viable anymore. (I think) So they definately do fight for others than the T'au.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287587.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287587.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287714.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287786.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287798.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287801.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/287804.page GMT
Bastirous666 mentioned that the Dawn Blade could be the work of their "God". That automatically couldn't be true as the Tau don't understand the concept of there being a God, therefore they do not worship one. They cannot grasp the concept of there being something that exists but is not tangible.

Storm Lord: Yes the Kroot are mercenaries to the Tau but they are [i]exclusive[/i] mercenaries. They have been absorbed into the Empire. Although there have been rumours of Kroot working for other races.[/quote]

i never suggested that they work for a god, or even know that they do. the C'tan are not gods, they die...and gods cannot die no mater what. plain and simple. looking at the connections seen in old fluff and such make it seem as though the tau could possibly work for the dragon (unknowingly) and thus be connected in some way to the mechanicus and iron hands. other than that yes they don't worship gods, and it's possible that farsights sword is the work of a C'tan that does not command necrons]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288106.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288388.page GMT
Also the Ctan dont exactly die... they reform after their 'moratl' bodies are breached. I know there is fluff about the Blackstone Fortresses but it is uncertain if they could really kill a Ctan or if it is just Eldar boasting]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288606.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288606.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288730.page GMT because im sure there were more c'tan and they were all eaten by one of the other c'tan (nightbringer or outsider i forget which one it was)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288757.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288835.page GMT IIRC, as tau only live for about 70 years. Farsight is pushing what? 200?

Something isn't natural... not at all.

(especially considering Aun Shi got replaced by the space pope)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288879.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288879.page GMT
Farsight is a great character that has tons of potential to be really neat, and I just hope GW avoids screwing it up with a cliche "possessed by blank" type story.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288928.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/288928.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289066.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289176.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289295.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289300.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289308.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289326.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289658.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/289751.page GMT
Also to quote something on the GW website:
"I have followed the myriad potential futures of the Tau with great interest. Though barely even striplings compared to us, I feel a strange protectiveness towards them. In time I believe they will exceed even our greatest feats and master the darkness within their souls."

Eldrad Ulthran,
Farseer of Ulthwé Craftworld

What if Farsight sucumbed to whatever the Darkness within their souls is?
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Number 1: Gods in Warhammer and Warhammer 40k can be born, and they can be killed. There are several references to this (see: Old Ones and Eldar Gods).

Number 2: C'tan are not gods. They are beings of immense vampiric energy given physical form by a dying society. They may have been worshipped as gods by a misguided people, but they are no more gods than a bloodthirster is.

Number 3: Tau have no presense in the warp, as has been stated many times. This does not negate the argument that chaos is controlling farsight. In fact, in order for a chaos god to be able to influence a tau general... they would need some sort of direct link to that individual.... a beacon that they could focus on...... like a daemon sword for instance. Then again, why do we think it is farsight controlling the sword, and not the other way around. In Khorne's Liber de Chaotica, in the armory section, it speaks of a daemonic sword which actually took over the mind of its bearer and ruled over a civilization using the bearer as a puppet..... and extending his life.... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290085.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290085.page GMT [img]http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/751/751133/lost-planet-vital-suits-part-1-20061214043444825.jpg[/img][/quote]

Fixed your typo.



But on the topic at hand, I have read somewhere(probably here) that Tau do have a warp presence; however it is barely a pip of light in an ocean of darkness, unlike the blazing torches that other races would be. Should a Tau come across an artifact of a highly psychic society, say, Eldar, for example, that used equipment which focused psychic energy , like witch blades and the blades of Vaul, maybe this warp presence would expand exponentially.

He did find it on a dead world, yes, but didn't the huge battle between Khaine +100 Magic Sword Guys and Nightbringer + a Bajillion Necrons occur on a dead world? Besides, the Eldar have a precedent for using swords ornamented as such( witchblades and the blades of Vaul again) while the C'tan do not. Phase blades do not count, as they are simply a human usage of the same material that Necrons always have fashioned into scythes of some sort.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290140.page GMT au have a warp presence but its kind of like plankton, its there you just can't see it cause its so tiny.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290160.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290259.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290259.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290460.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290723.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290740.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290824.page GMT My bad ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/290973.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291174.page GMT
Importantly who made the Tau in the First place? As that might give some answers to different stuff]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291280.page GMT because they created many folks
todo their wishes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291342.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291348.page GMT other races with their "greater good"
when solo action by eldar,ork or
humans failed them.Tau in their
servant mood are more controllable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291354.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291611.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291611.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291647.page GMT outside and would be Tau before.
2.a speedup in evolution and technics is also external inducted.

Only ancient and fixed on subordinates to do their cause
races will fit.
Old ones - High possibility
c'tan - max be
Third Party??
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Confused, Ok I'll explain, the Eldar have the Paths to stop them 'going insane or something' and the Tau have a very similar thing, with Tau following only one thing-ie war, diplomacy, Etherealness. Anyone else think maybe theres a connection?

Also what bugs me is that the Tau were forced to 'hyper evolve' by warpstorms that surrounded the planet, or so I belive, (correct if wrong) and the warp=psykers, so why the hell did the Tau not gain any? It makes no sense!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291721.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291721.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291744.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291751.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291792.page GMT someone wanted them to be Cut off.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/291814.page GMT GW just pulled that out of their a$$ to explain why they are super advanced. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292097.page GMT I personally think that they were engineered by Tzeench to make the Tau his personal toolbox. But maybe he lost control and so he corrupted Farsight.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292216.page GMT
Another theory I've been working of is that the Tau are actually the pre-necron necrontyr. my reasoning being that when the Necrontyr were losing against the Old ones (before the coming of the Ctan) they were pushed back to the edges of the Galaxy, ie the Eastern fringe.

There rapid rise of Tech the Tau had would also tie in with this, as the Necrons used a hell of a lot of tech and science to try to beet the old ones originally. And if the Ethereals really were Old ones then they might be trying to stop a re-doing of the First war in the Heavens. (The name of the Necron/Ctan vs Old ones war, not the Eldar parody of it)

Farsight having escaped the Ethereals began the path of the Necron (Well he is sealed inside his armour...) which would tie in with the Ctan phase sword he may or may not be carrying.

Thats my most recent theory, let the ridiculing begin]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292289.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292289.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292293.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292294.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292294.page GMT One and then rise to 2 metre tall skeleton?
explorers have seen tau in their halfanimal-form
only a few thousand years earlier than 40k,wich
means they had short "real"time to evolve.
If there was a connection planned,i think it will
end with Tau using machines and suits overtaken
by necrons, enslaving them in their own technology.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292391.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292692.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292692.page GMT Second, part of working in secret means lying, and having shadowsun publicly disown the works of Farsight is a very public way to show that the Ethereals don't support what farsight does. It does not show what the actual relationship is between Farsight and the Ethereals.

Either Farsight is working secretly for the ethereals, or he's working in such a way as to further the overall goals of the Tau. Shadowsun wasn't sent to bring him in, but she did lead the third sphere expansion, while Farsight has gone all Col Kurtz and is plowing through the orks near the damocles gulf.[/quote]

Thats a point, has the Tau Empire actually done [i]anything[/i] to stop farsight, or bring him in, after all a deserter to the Greater good can't be good to the Ethereals ideals or moral can it? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292903.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292923.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/292923.page GMT the mind of its wearer,but those who created it must not
command farsight today.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/293129.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/293129.page GMT
True, they aren't the Imperium,(yet), who as soon as one man goes renegade every gun within 5 lightyears is called in to take him down...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/293546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/293546.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/293933.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/293933.page GMT They should give up that idea and just enjoy what they've got, or take on some Orks in hand to hand and get better at it...or die!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294178.page GMT so they got a "black sheep"(farsight). He expierenced to
much to believe in greater good .can be in his own way
without advice from "the enlightened" leaders on Tau'n.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294364.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294364.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294632.page GMT "loyal to greater good " with them?
They feel sorry for disbelievers?
i take them to clean and optimistic without any darkness in their behaviour.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294643.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294643.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294687.page GMT sanctioned army list entry,only different because GW wanted a sublist?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294702.page GMT
Both, silly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/294768.page GMT
It didn't force them to it simply allowed them to. Seeing as their homeworld was sheduled for exterminatus.

That said they did indeed evolve much faster when compared to humans. When the explorators found them the only caste they had was the fire caste. Yet within a few thousand years they had evolved into the air caste which has wings, the earth cast, which is kinda like a dwarf, and the water caste as well as the Fire Caste.

As to the thing about the greater good not working. It will indeed work among themsleves. The Ethereals release a pheramone from the diamond shaped glands in their foreheads that make any other tau caste obey their commands. Similar to a Termite or Ant queen. (who by the way do indeed practice perfect communism, which is what the tau actually are. Biologically adapted beings of communism.) So if Farsight ever came close to an ethereal, he would be unable to resist them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/295916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/295916.page GMT
It didn't force them to it simply allowed them to. Seeing as their homeworld was sheduled for exterminatus.

That said they did indeed evolve much faster when compared to humans. When the explorators found them the only caste they had was the fire caste. Yet within a few thousand years they had evolved into the air caste which has wings, the earth cast, which is kinda like a dwarf, and the water caste as well as the Fire Caste.

As to the thing about the greater good not working. It will indeed work among themsleves. The Ethereals release a pheramone from the diamond shaped glands in their foreheads that make any other tau caste obey their commands. Similar to a Termite or Ant queen. (who by the way do indeed practice perfect communism, which is what the tau actually are. Biologically adapted beings of communism.) So if Farsight ever came close to an ethereal, he would be unable to resist them.[/quote]
HA its not just me that talked about the gland in the Ethereals forehead. Damn blue fish head commie Bas*ard$]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/295984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/295984.page GMT
Why did only the Ethereals evolve this glad thing? And doesn't that mean the greater good is actually, 'what the Ethereals say it is' ie what they want, not really good for anyone else]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/296083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/296083.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/296118.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/296118.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297341.page GMT SG-1 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297454.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297454.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297525.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297812.page GMT

The Tau are GOOD GUYS dammit. They realized the humans probably didn't want to stick around that place so they sent them to cultivate a new colonial world and everything was just fine and they all got along well afterwards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297859.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/297859.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298043.page GMT
To point out I don't mean offense to anyone by mentioning Nazis, as some people seem to take offense to the merest mention of them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298341.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298402.page GMT
Hmm, I think you have forgotten that the tau are one of the most advanced technological species in the game. I don't think it would be a far cry for them to develop a device that lets other species react to the Etheral pheramone.

Though the pheramone thing is also their greatest strength and weakness. If the imperials could replicate the pheramone they could essentially control any tau that they can get with in smelling range of.

Also, seeing as the pheramone only works if it is actually smelled, when relying on distant contact the tau react the way they do most likely because they have had it ingrained into them since youth to obey etherals. So if an etheral treid to go to the farsight enclave where they have no etherals they could shoot at him from space without suffering from the biological response. (though this would prolly piss the Tau empire off supremely)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298410.page GMT Some computerised little blue-greys stand no chance to fight against the ancient foe.To easy:hack those advanced devices and Tau are cheap prey.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298426.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298576.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298576.page GMT Tau use a great variety of computerized systems.Enough options to infiltrate for C'tan
Ever tried to stop a youngster to use his mobile phone 24 hours a day? Big deal even when youre in charge (daBOSS).
A Tau who never lives without computers cannot see any danger from technology,he is fixed to it, like those people with a phonebill about the cost of your last army.:(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298675.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298675.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298728.page GMT Space marines went traitor at heresy and loyality is not obsequiosness.
No indoktrination prevents that some can turn renegade.
In their "greater good" is little room for citizen2nd class (i.e.gue'la)
Control humans ? Orks ?? Nids? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298739.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298739.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298964.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/298964.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299003.page GMT They can be more expierienced in the future,if they drop "greater good for everyone" and stay
at home for eternity.Otherwise: bye,bye little greys.
The only Tau aware of reality is farsight. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299087.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299087.page GMT [/quote]

and thats why he leads my force]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299195.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299195.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299213.page GMT
Pure Truth told,this pheromone thing won't last forever.
Even if it makes you obedient and happy,time will come
and you wake up,illusions gone.
The one and only on a everlasting peacetour
is the Imperium: Rest in Peace for all (xeno,heretic,traitor)
and for free !!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299242.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299388.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299521.page GMT
He doesn't need to be a mutant. His Ethereal got killed it battle and there were just no more pheromoens around to keep him all goody-two shoed]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299591.page GMT
I know their allies (assault-??) are insects and act as swarm.
The idea of Tau controlled by pheromone is already nice,but
I think it works more like a pacificator-helm.This creates no
command direct in their head,more a general feeling.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299616.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299625.page GMT GW decides to pull out of their a$$ on this one in the next codex ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299899.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/299899.page GMT GW they'll ruin it anyway. They'll say something like "farsight actually no longer exists, his suit just runs on auto pilot, and so can't listen to the Ethereals" or some S*** like that]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300151.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300151.page GMT GW to me ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300717.page GMT GW slipped into the codex, that it may not actually be Farsight anymore at all, but in fact would really be some other Tau who's just keeping the name alive. Sort of like the Dread Pirate Roberts! Wesley may not have been the real Dread Pirate Roberts, but that didn't stop him from being AWESOME! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300889.page GMT
In the Codex it says that Farsight ignored calls to return home and went deeper into the area all Tau are banned from.

So the appearance (at least from what I gather from the codex) is that Farsight is working in the interests of the Tau empire in his own way whilst persueing his own vendetta against the orks.

I'd imagine, like others have said, that if an Ethereal came near him then he's be pulled back into the loop and would be unable to refuse.

Perhaps thats why he didn't return, he saw that he was being controlled by the Ethereals]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/300916.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301096.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301096.page GMT
Farsight's weapon made him immune.

The Base of farsight is located in a banned region.
Etherals banned it, because they are in danger or
powerless there.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301111.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301112.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301112.page GMT It is possible to nerf psykers with a anti-psi-shield,
Natural sources or the actions of lifeforms on these Planets
May produce the same effect.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301154.page GMT
In response to Gnas: That's not possible because a Crisis Battle Suit knows it's pilot and if it's not him it seals shut and incinerates whatever is inside.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301385.page GMT
In response to Gnas: That's not possible because a Crisis Battle Suit knows it's pilot and if it's not him it seals shut and incinerates whatever is inside.[/quote]

But who's to say it's the same suit? The only thing special about his suit is the shield and the antenna, which I would imagine could be easily replicated or even just plain old transferred from the original suit. Further more, who's to say that the suit's own information couldn't be changed after the pilot dies? I'm certain that if a pilot were to die out of battle that they wouldn't always retire his armor it seems too wasteful in a society that seems to have a place for everything and everyone.


Also, what source has the whole incenerator thing? I would like to read up on that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301798.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301871.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/301871.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/302467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/302467.page GMT hes Fortifying an area of space (no idea which one) but why? No one seems to really care about him, the Tau just ignore him and the Imperium have bigger problems?

maybe hes trying to make "The Farsight Heresy" (ref to Horus)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/302906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/302906.page GMT
Farsight is related to shadowsun.
Where the girl expanded,he dug in.

The farsight-enclave is in the dex to
make tau more variable.
No etheral wants a commander with his own mind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303006.page GMT
(Though I think he was put in to dampen the good/niavity of the Tau in general. Nothing like a world weary cynical renegade to put a tough edge on things.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303269.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303532.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303584.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303584.page GMT okishness"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303589.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303589.page GMT CC (it would raise your skill to an Eldar God.) Or maybe he's so caught up hunting orks the anger of them makes him immune to the Etherals.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303596.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303597.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303597.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303600.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303605.page GMT CC for a Tau and his rather old age.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303609.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303609.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303654.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303881.page GMT Mon'tau /

Fire Warriors were said to get heated and a schism of
tau's military cadre can be more devastating than any
external attack.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303909.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303909.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/303952.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304448.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304588.page GMT But far away from home the hold of the Etherals on a firewarriors mind competes with alien influence.
The expansion could stop when more long-time soldiers go "farsight".?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304789.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304789.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/304824.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305410.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305461.page GMT Any reason to insist on chaos influence?

His weapon = maybe
His armour = not spikey
dex art = no
story = no
tactics = not chaotic,no warp use
psi-abilities = no

I don't see chaos in him.

Eldar is more reliable,theyre often in the "use lower races" mode.
Another shared "Vision" from a farseer ?
Farseer-farsight = eldar Intruder playing Tau ?
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A harlie has taken farsight's place and acts secretly inmidst the Tau?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305687.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305689.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/305689.page GMT Wich interests thinkable for those who move ( unnoticed ja him) farsight ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306621.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306716.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306784.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306784.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306844.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306899.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306899.page GMT
Tau have children? Sure ? Never heard that.

Hope,theyre not brother and sister. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306970.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/306970.page GMT
Tau have children? Sure ? Never heard that.

Hope,theyre not brother and sister. [/quote]

lets hope]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307035.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307086.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307105.page GMT
He left her and broke contact.She was dissapointed,got angry and made his statue suffer her wrath.
Typical "Girl without interest in this guy" action.
Remember,they had the same trainer.Time enough to get close. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307156.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307159.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211030/307238.page GMT ha ha, guess you haven't seen enough action