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My working concept for the army will be a chaos-possessed IG regiment. For example:

- for horrors: converted guardsmen with melting faces and limbs; their las-guns becoming hideous organic appendages spitting lethal warpfire;

- for plague bearers, I can resurrect my mutants.

- and, for demon princes and/or soul grinders, tanks and/or sentinels, ripped asunder and reforged with cthonic ligature.

Here's a teaser glimpse (using an earlier project, a defiler conversion) to whet appetites.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/defiler_vessel_det_ph.jpg[/IMG]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283334.page GMT In the Demon codex, DPs are "heavy selections," offering one of the few anti-tank firepower options. Accordingly, I'll base my version off of a sentinel model.
This "sentinel" will have been invaded and possessed by a demon spirit, however, so I'll graft organic elements -- flesh, bones, claws, some sort of face -- onto the vehicle, to embody its demonic animating spirit.

So my two main sources of bitz, at least to begin with, will be a sentinel and stuff from the spawn sprues.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr1.jpg[/img]

A lot of greenstuffing will come later. Right now, I'm starting by fusing some of the major plastic elements. For example:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr2.jpg[/img]
to get composites like:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr3.jpg[/img]

As that last WIP snapshot suggests, I'm not really working from a masterplan here. Just trying stuff out. But I'll start building from the feet up, in this case, since sentinels need the balance.

Here's a look with both "legs" roughed out, and clawed "feet" added. (Again, there'll be a lot of greenstuffing to come.)
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr4.jpg[/img]

Another angle:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr5.jpg[/img]

And a third angle, with a better look at the leg:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr6.jpg[/img]

And one last angle, from the other side:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr7.jpg[/img]

So I'm underway. More to come.
And in the meantime, feedback is warmly welcomed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283335.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283346.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283346.page GMT
I look forwards to *ahem* borrowing some of your ideas... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283373.page GMT LATD army! Thank you good sir!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283415.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283415.page GMT That's it exactly! (If I pull it off, of course.)

Okay, some progress. I've been blocking out torso/cabin section. First, afixing a spawn torso to the front of the sentinel cabin (after carving off the back half of the sentinel stuff), to get this:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr9.jpg[/IMG]

Then, setting him on the legs, I played with the angle and proportions until I found a stance that I liked, setting the "torso" well back on the carriage (visa vi where the cabin usually sits), and slanting down toward the front, thusly:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr16.jpg[/IMG]

The spawn torso does not fit proportionately with the sentinel legs, but I don't necessarily want the model to suggest anatomical correctness, and I think the conversion might work regardless. I don't want this creature to resemble a humanoid/robot construct, so much as a frenzy of flesh, crawling all over and winding itself into a doomed machine.

To which end, once I'd placed the torso/cabin, I drilled holes in the sides, thusly:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr15.jpg[/IMG]

I've drilled holes because I'm anticipating planting cable/sinew arcs from the "shoulder" of the "torso" into the cabin interior -- as if the demon was not only wrapping his skin and musculature around the cabin, but also piercing and invading its interior. (This is hard to describe, and I'm not 100 percent sure it will work out visually, but I won't know till I've tried it out and seen the effort.)

Next I'll probably start working on the gun arm (probably using a sentinel multi-las arm as a base).
And soon I'll pull out the green-stuff...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283667.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283667.page GMT DP concept, I'm looking forward to seeing this beast once greenstuff ties the flesh and metal together.

Bonus points for the thigh in the middle of the sentinel leg, a simple touch but a great effect.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283675.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283675.page GMT LATD army! Thank you good sir![/quote]

So much of my desire to do this army comes out of my anger/despair at losing the ability to play my LatD.

A member of my local gaming club pointed out that the ball joint on the sentinel carriage was looking kind of like some weird huge codpiece on the model.
Well, once you've got that image in your brain, it's hard to see anything else. So I took out my snippers and....
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr18.jpg[/img]
Worked in a few cables while I was at it (the first of many).
And also took the opportunity to pin the torso/cabin to the legs while the back was open. (You can just see the pin if you look closely here
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr17.jpg[/img]

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283723.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283752.page GMT I like the second pose better as the spawn body seems to flow more with the sentinel cockpit.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/283753.page GMT First, the head. I was originally planning to pick one of the new spawn sprue heads for this creature. Then I remembered the old spawn head, the one with like 7 sets of concentric jaws and rings of teeth.... I've always loved that image. And as it happened, I had several in my bitz box. So out one comes.
The neck is too straight for my taste, though. I decided it was worth sawing the thing in two, pinning it with a winding wire, and green-stuffing in the fit.
Like so:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr19.jpg[/img]
another angle, this one showing why I love the bit so much
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr20.jpg[/img]
and one more angle
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr21.jpg[/img]

After a rough layer of greenstuffing, I have this:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr22.jpg[/img]

(I'm waiting overnight for the greenstuff to dry, before affixing it to the torso.)


As for the "gun," I'll probably use the sentinel multilaser as a base (did I say this already?), but twirl some flamer arm/mouths off of the barrel. Something like:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr25.jpg[/img]
and looking down the "barrel"...
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr24.jpg[/img]

Tomorrow I'll begin fitting these components to the main body.

It's coming together.....
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/284301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/284301.page GMT Worked a bit on the back, and started some greenstuffing and cabling here and there.
First, several shots from the back:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr26.jpg[/img]
and:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr29.jpg[/img]

And then, from the side:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr28.jpg[/img]
and the front:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr27.jpg[/img]

Still a long way to go. I envision at least 4 more stages of green stuffing. Right now I'm just experimenting with textures.

I am liking the bent over pose, so I think I'll keep him deeply hunched -- as if he's sniffing for prey like some cyborg T-Rex.
Hmmm, think I'll give him a tail, too.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/284833.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/284833.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/284860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/284860.page GMT Indeed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285034.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285034.page GMT After several attempts at crafting a suitably demonic gun arm, I think I have something I'm satisfied with. As planned, I'm using the sentinel multilaser arm, with flamer "arms" winding around the barrels. It's taken a couple of different sessions of assembly and re-assembly, but I think I have the basic blocking I want. Just to be sure the arm worked with the model as a whole, I've gone ahead and pinned it to the main body (leaving a lot of room for green-stuffed ligature, cabling and so on to create a join later).
Here's what we're looking at so far:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr30.jpg[/img]
Keep in mind, I still have a lot of green-stuffing to do. I will probably greenstuff/graft a "shoulder" of sorts onto the back end of the gun arm.
And of course, I need to figure out what to do about the "arm" on the other side.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr31.jpg[/img]
Sorry the pictures are bad. At least you can get a sense of the general outlines, I hope.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr32.jpg[/img]

Finally, to see how the gun arm worked with the head, I blue tacked (actually white tacked) the head to the torso.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr33.jpg[/img]
The white blob around the ring of the neck is just temporary. The actual join will be green-stuffed, and much more organic looking.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr34.jpg[/img]

I'll be playing a league game tonight, so no progress for a few days. But then I'll dig back in.
As usual, C&C would be most welcome. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285603.page GMT
The only critisism so far is that the claws on the left foot looks out of place resting on top of a metal 'toe' when the right foot has claws jutting out from where the toe has been removed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285706.page GMT
The only critisism so far is that the claws on the left foot looks out of place resting on top of a metal 'toe' when the right foot has claws jutting out from where the toe has been removed.[/quote]

Fair point. I've been waiting for the greenstuffing phase to work out these kind of kinks.
I might "fix" it and remove the metal toe. Or I might trying modeling it to suggest the claws are demonically invading/snikting out of the machinery. (Though I'd want the efffect to look convincing, and not just sloppy. hmmmm.)

edited: spelling]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285725.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285725.page GMT
looking forward to te rest of this]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285727.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285727.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/285769.page GMT Last night I mashed and mushed more greenstuff onto the creature, beginning to work up the back shoulders, and further articulating the gun arm and legs.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr39.jpg[/IMG]

He's not yet where I want him. I need to further refine much of the work on the back to suggest "erupting spawnish/organo/cyborg/demonisity," rather than just "greenstuff lava flow." So more detail work, more veins and tubes, more cabling are all coming. But it's easier now to grasp the basic form, I think.

Some other angles, to give a feel for the proportions and "anatomy" of this most unnatural creature:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr35.jpg[/IMG]
and:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr36.jpg[/IMG]

I'll put another round of work into him tonight. (I'm finding I need to layer the work in stages, or else my fingers mash up what I've already done as I hold the model to work on it.)

I'm still going back and forth with myself on what to do about his other arm. But I'm reaching the point where I'll have to make a decision and try out something. (I find I invariably reach a certain stage of work on a project at which, liking what I've done so far, I hesitate to proceed, not wanting to muck it up, yet knowing I've got to try something new on an unfinished section. One of the reasons I started this log was to force myself through such periods of doubt and timidity.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/287776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/287776.page GMT IW...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/287793.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/287793.page GMT
In the meantime, to keep your appetites up, here's a look at my mutants, which will stand in as "plaguebearers" in the army list.

[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/mutants1.jpg[/IMG]
As I said, these wretches were mutants in my LatD list. I figure they make good proxies for plaguebearers, being all haunted and harrowed looking.

[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/mutants2.jpg[/IMG]
I hope they convey the overarching theme of the army, namely, a haunted IG regiment, corrupted by The Ruinous Powers and sent on the Winds of the Warp to further the work of Chaos.

[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/mutants3.jpg[/IMG]
Fear them!

[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/mutants4.jpg[/IMG]

And here are some detail shots.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/mutants3_det.jpg[/IMG]
The painting on these is not particularly sharp. (This was my second army, painted a few years ago.) I think I'll try to tidy them up a bit, work on the detailing and so on, to bring the overall level of the army up.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/mutants2_det.jpg[/IMG]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/288591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/288591.page GMT Worked up a version of the other arm that I'm reasonably satisfied with -- going more or less with Apologist's (on Warseer) of "a spastic flail" of cables and tendril arms.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr40.jpg[/IMG]

Also began work on a tail:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr41.jpg[/IMG]
More work to come here, joining the barb at the end to the cable tail length, and so on.

A bit more work and I'll be able to start painting the creature.

Any thoughts or ideas, while we're still at the plastic 'n greenstuff stage?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289214.page GMT GS work is awesome ! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289401.page GMT The thing is, I kind of like the weediness, if that makes any sense. At least in my eyes, it makes it look as though the head is erupting from the machine, as opposed to being connected to the construct in any way that made organic sense. Because I don't want the figure to make "organic sense."
So it definitely looks kind of "off." Hopefully, it's the kind of "off" I'm looking to achieve.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289410.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289459.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/289466.page GMT Specifically, I bulked out the "other arm" a bit with a power pack (sprouting cables and tendrils, of course), along with a pesky little "mascot" flamer arm. Here's a view from above and behind:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr43.jpg[/IMG]
and here from the front:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr44.jpg[/IMG]
I also worked up the tail a little more:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr46.jpg[/IMG]
As soon as I fill in the base, he's ready to prime and paint!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/291663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/291663.page GMT So while we wait for developments there, I'll pull out some models I'm thinking of using to stand in as fiends.
Fiend 1:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend1a.jpg[/IMG]
Another angle:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend1c.jpg[/IMG]
And a third angle:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend1b.jpg[/IMG]

Fiend 2:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend2a.jpg[/IMG]
Another angle:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend2c.jpg[/IMG]
And a third angle:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend2b.jpg[/IMG]

And fiend 3 (sounds like a twisted Dr. Seuss line!)
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend3a.jpg[/IMG]
another angle:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend3b.jpg[/IMG]
and the third angle:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/fiend3c.jpg[/IMG]

These guys used to be spawn in my LatD list. I figure they can stand in as particularly horribly mutated "fiends" in a haunted IG demon army, since the mutatations do look rendy, fleety and nasty.

And then, for a herald, an evil psyker seems a natural choice.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/herald1.jpg[/IMG]
Conversion work here is minimal. I've simply taken one of the Forgeworld renegade psykers, "elevated" him on a brass rod, and greenstuffed in some trailing robe extensions.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/herald2.jpg[/IMG]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/292257.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/292257.page GMT CSM or daemon Doom inpsired army but I like this more personal touch even more. Much more evil and techno-ish then the more catroonish GW stock models.
The painting really helps too.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/292486.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/292486.page GMT I've started painting the demon prince. He's going to be a big job.
Here's how he looks with a few coats of paint.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr47.jpg[/IMG]
and
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr48.jpg[/IMG]
I should stress this is very much painting in progress. I have more layering and toning to do for both the metal and the demon/flesh areas. But I did want to block out the major colors so that I could get a feel for the visual composition.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr49.jpg[/IMG]
In general, I like the palatte, but I think things need to look a little less pink. And of course, the various veins, sinews, cables, wires, guts and gore all need to be picked out in various shades, so that they contrast more with each other.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr50.jpg[/IMG]
Then the detailing begins....

Meanwhile, I'm beginning to scheme up the next projects in the army. I'm starting to tinker with possibilities for the horrors. I'll probably start another demon prince somewhere along the line, desecrating another sentinel to do so.

What do you suppose a 40K "chariot" would look like?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/295425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/295425.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297650.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297674.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297674.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297875.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297958.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/297958.page GMT Progress has been frequently interrupted lately with various real-life obligations, but I have staggered forward.
First, I made a few purchases...
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/coming_projects.jpg[/IMG]
The ghouls will become conversion fodder for horrors (if they work out the way I hope they might *fiendish cackle*).
The sentinel will give me a machine skeleton for another demon prince.
And the soul grinder will become (ahem) a soul grinder. (I like the model very much, particularly the demon torso and head, though I anticipate tinkering quite a bit with the carriage/legs.)

I decided to start with the horrors. I tried fiddling with various combinations of ghoul- and Cadian- and FW renegade bitz. But the ghouls really are creatures and models unto themselves, what with their posture and bitz breakdown. Any combination with 40K stuff made them look unnatural -- in a bad way. The prototype that worked best, I thought, was this one:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horror_prototype2.jpg[/IMG]
That's ghoul, legs, torso, and arms, with an IG lasgun and a head from Pig Iron. This version is still very rough: he has mould lines, of course, and needs greenstuffing to smooth out the joins, and probably some 40K touches here and there (maybe some cabling). But I like the posture and feel of the creature.
He has kind of a Hellboy vibe.
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horror_prototype.jpg[/IMG]
He's supposed to represent a basic Imperial Guardsman, infected with warp energies, corrupted into a foul denizen of demon lands, and sent back to the Materium to slaughter his former comerades.

I will work up a squad of horrors along these lines.
And meanwhile, continue painting the demon prince.

In the meantime, suggestions, comments, and critique are warmly welcomed.
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Side note: What isn't to like about 3 S4 shots per model?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/298734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/298734.page GMT

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/299503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/299503.page GMT For the lasgun idea id replace the barrels with some sort of learing face, or use the flamer hands like you used for the DP,

Im stealing the idea too, they'd make nice conscripts!!

Keep up the Great work

LL ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/299853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/299853.page GMT [/quote]
I hear what you're saying here, actually, and I tend to agree (with you and with Lord L, who makes the same basic point). Which is why my lack of posting lately hasn't been for lack of fiddling and tinkering. I've been fussing with the "horrors" (ghouled up guardsmen), but I'm not yet sure I've come up with a solution that entirely satisfies me.

First, I assembled head/torso/legs for 6 of them:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors02.jpg[/IMG]

So far so good. But having them simply hold their lasguns did not produce satisfying results. Partly because the ghoul arms didn't line up properly, even after bending and cutting/re-fixing. But also because a simple lasgun didn't really suggest warpfire to me.

So I've been trying some alternatives.
One way to go would be to afix some of a lasgun (minus the stock, the handle, the trigger, probably also the tip of the barrel itself) to an arm, then greenstuff in demonic ligature to suggest an unholy fusing of man and gun -- as if daemonic possession had grafted the two into a single, unholy, warp-animanted weapon.
Something like:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors03.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a pair of closer detail shots:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors04.jpg[/IMG]
(Since taking this photo, I've clipped out the handle and trigger apparatus.)
Here's another look:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors05.jpg[/IMG]

If I go this route, maybe I'll try sculpting miniature mouths or at least tounges for the mouths of the gun-barrels. (But then, they might be too small to sculpt convincingly.)

I'm not sure, frankly. I think I'll have to press forward with this plan (so, more green-stuffing to come) on at least one test model, or probably two, then paint them up, then decide whether it works or not.

So I make this log entry not in an excited "see what I've done! Isn't it cool?!" tone. The mood here is "hmmm. Is this going to work, or not?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/301638.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/301638.page GMT GS on there. I actually thought it was fire at first, wreathing the firing arm and gun, and thought that was an excellent idea. Now I see the gun is all merged into the arm, and I still think it's an excellent idea

I don't personally need mouths and tongues on all the guns, though a few in each squad would work, tie them in with the big sentinel demon thing's imperial gun + demonic mouths / flesh. But again, merging the lasguns into the body of the things works fine for me

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/301643.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/301643.page GMT I still want to do some more, but the creature is starting to come into three-color focus (in the comic book sense of the term):
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr51.jpg[/img]
and from one side:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr53.jpg[/img]
and the other
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr54.jpg[/img]
As you can see, I decided to paint the flamer-mouth-tongues blue, to create a few points of contrast:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr52.jpg[/img]
Here's a look at some base detail: demon prince prey:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr55.jpg[/img]
Here he is noticing you looking at him:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr56.jpg[/img]
And here he is from up top
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_mfr57.jpg[/img]

He's still at the stage where I pick up the model, peer closely, turning slowly. Wonder if I should change things. Put him down. Pick him up again....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/303457.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/303457.page GMT
I just noticed the Space Marine on the DP's base. Hilarious!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/303463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/303463.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/304013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/304013.page GMT
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors09.jpg[/IMG]
Some details:
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors10.jpg[/IMG]
and
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors11.jpg[/IMG]
and
[IMG]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors12.jpg[/IMG]

This weekend I should be able to start painting up a few of these guys.

Next I think I want to try modeling another demon prince, using a few ideas I couldn't mash into the last one.

In the meantime, comments, criticisms, suggestions and critique would be very welcome.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307280.page GMT CSM!

Aside from that I really like it. Are there any eyes on the Demon Prince?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307441.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307441.page GMT
Damn, that's, like, psychic! One of the things I want to try is eyes (mostly from the spawn sprues) emerging from fissures in the sentinel body.
And you sensed that? I definitely detect the distant hand of Tzeench at work here.

edit: This avatar (of Schepp himself) helped stir up the idea.
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5ef059938ba799aaa845e1c2e8a762bd.jpg[/img]
Don't know where the picture's from. But it's creepy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307547.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307547.page GMT
How about throwing a couple of Termagant Fleshborer armsets into this, those guns look organic and flamer-ish.. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307638.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307638.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/307642.page GMT
How about throwing a couple of Termagant Fleshborer armsets into this, those guns look organic and flamer-ish.. [/quote]

Good idea. The trick would be modifying the arms so they lost that very distinctive nid look to them.
Hmm, your suggestion makes me realize how much that xeno-zoology has unconsciously shaped my approach to converting the ghouls!

I've finished (well, 90% finished) modeling the first batch of nine horrors.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors14.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors15.jpg[/img]
For the horror wielding a bolt of change, I decided to "mutate" a flamer:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors16.jpg[/img]
I should be able to start painting them bit by bit (how else?) this week.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/308352.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/308352.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/308409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/308409.page GMT
I too hope for bigger mutated gun monsters, but not sure what you have in store for us ...

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/308412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/308412.page GMT [img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors17.jpg[/img]

Anyone? No?

Well, I will post a progress report anyway, this time to solicit suggestions for a Lord of Change. I'm casting about for ideas here.
The LOC is ridiculously costly in terms of points, and so maybe not the most sensible army selection. But since I'm undertaking this project mainly for narrative and modeling reasons, I'm making one anyway.
The model has to be big (60 mm base). Has to be freaky and scary. Has to suggest Tzeentchish shooty powers, as well as flight.
And, to fit in with the theme of the army, he also has to somehow suggest "haunted, possessed IG."
Plus, I'm thinking about trying something with a C'thullu flavor.
So.

One idea I have is to take and rework a project I started a year or so ago. Never finished it, but took it this far:

[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Tzeentch_demon3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Tzeentch_demon4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Tzeentch_demon5.jpg[/img]

Some things I'm thinking of doing to it:
Taking it apart again;
Making it bigger by a factor of 2 or so;
Making the overall lines of the piece spiral and curl more, so that it'd look like a spiral or a twisting tornado, instead of a pillar;
Splicing/grafting in IG elements (cables; imperial and guard debris, caught up in the tornado; horrified faces, trapped inside);
and then, re-coloring it to match other elements of the new army (see demon prince no. 1, above).

Does this sound as though it would work? Any other thoughts?
If I took this route, how would you recommend proceeding? My ideas are boiling over, but frankly I don't know how I'd go about making such an ambitious beast.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310490.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310490.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310527.page GMT [url]http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02838[/url]

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I like the concept Tin, and your ideas for making it better are good. Reminds me of Hammer's freaky green lord of change from his 1k Sons army, don't know if you remember seeing it before. Not on his pbase account, so I'll look around and post a link when I can find it.

EDIT --> [url=http://www.pbase.com/migsula/image/19446879]THE HORROR[/url] (recall that greater demons used to possess marines, hence the dude in there)

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310655.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310655.page GMT And for your suggestion as well, Foda B. I'm sticking with GW models as base material (not because I play in fancy GW tournaments, but just for the challenge of the restriction). Still, this is all grist for the mill, stirring up inspirations and ideas. Very helpful, at this stage of the process.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310665.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/310665.page GMT
You've captured the sci-fi "demon" feeling that Games Workshop rather ignored when they released bright and spiky little daemons that, while cool looking in their own right, failed to connect with the demons from "Doom" or "Quake" that so characterize military Sci-Fi.

This is a step in the right direction. Your horrors and ghouls especially.

What are you planning for your HQ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/311772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/311772.page GMT
Well, after a long hiatus (full of real-life stuff and very little 40k, I'm afraid), I'm resuming work on this project.
See?
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/22642a488094e668169cad40a4db4c1c_327.jpg__thumb[/img]

Actually, over the last few weeks I've made piecemeal progress on various fronts.

First, I'm putting together another small batch of horrors:
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/bde34ddc70577c745bf11ecfcd00dcb2_327.jpg__thumb[/img]
Up closer:
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/33288b055cf9e4f216c8f6f13c41538b_327.jpg__thumb[/img]

Then, I started up another corrupted-sentinel-demon-prince beastie.
Those humble beginnings:
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/bae5747983eac658d160d1f0eb3cbac4_327.jpg__thumb[/img]
The plan here is to use more of the sentinel, more intact than before -- but definitely beginning to crawl with C'thullian nastiness. Lots of eyes erupting on the hull of thing (this will probably stand in as a Tzeenchian demon prince). And inside the cabin, the driver more or less plastered to the interior of the vehicle (something like the wretched creature encased in the Forgeworld chaos warhound titan -- one of my favorite GW/FW pieces of modeling ever. (As you can see here, I'm starting with the corpse impaled on the lance from the WHFB corpse cart kit -- an amazing source of bitz.)
Here's another angle:
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/8853b24762f38b26c15bbd02c11be7dc_327.jpg__thumb[/img]

And then, I made the first, sketchy start on a Lord of Change. Here, I decided to try to model up my initial vision: a whirlwind of Tzeenchian demonic madness, cables and Imperial wreckage, the trapped faces of devoured souls....
I really and truly have no idea how this is going to turn out.
But here's how it's started:
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/6c8ba7f059c4a0a1ed7935b4ccd1b5cf_327.jpg__thumb[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/caab1a2ebe6d07e9b9587e84e846ab38_327.jpg__thumb[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/7/14/acbd50243aa9306cbd385b752eabaa99_327.jpg__thumb[/img]

Obviously I have a long way to go with these last two projects -- and honestly, no clear idea of how to get there.
The Gods will guide me, I suppose.
Or not.

Responses, suggestions, feedback of any kind is most warmly welcomed. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/329604.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/329604.page GMT LoC, twin-headed flamer tornado that it's looking to become!

And I'm reminded how nifty your horrors are. Great stuff.

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/329657.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/329657.page GMT
Some of my random thoughts. Not sure I like the pose. Guess thats hard to change now, its just that the beast is leaning forward so much I find it hard to see all the details on the front. And your GS is nice, but personally I always like more stringy muscles like youve got on the legs. More of that! And less messy tentacle stuff. Love the head. The neck is ok, but it doesnt seem to match up with the torso that well. Not sure about the tail. I think its the end thats not doing it for me. Love the legs and feet. The claws on the feet really seem to pop out of the steel. Love it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/330191.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/330191.page GMT [img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/back_to_work.jpg[/img]
After busy summer, I've dug back into work on this army -- and this time I'm pretty confident I'll be able to sustain momentum for a good stretch.

First off, after playing a few games, I've been impressed with the performance of the horrors -- so long as they're summoned in large numbers. So I'm modeling up a few more:

[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors20.jpg[/img]

But most of my efforts recently have been focusing on that second demon prince.
As I may have said already, this one is also based on a corrupted-sentinel concept -- but this time I want more of the original sentinel, along with an open cab displaying the grisly sight of the sentinel pilot in the throes of possession. (The inspiration being that amazing Forge World chaos titan interior.)
Here's a look at progress as of a few days ago:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr3.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr4.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr5.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr6.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/359659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/359659.page GMT [img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr7.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr8.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr10.sized.jpg[/img]

Comments and criticisms welcome.
I'm thinking I want some kind of Cthullian head erupting from the cab -- or maybe just a tangle of tenticles?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/359662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/359662.page GMT DP more than the 1st (the head just doesent look right)
the main section of this one looks fine, just needs something near the engine and exausts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/359860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/359860.page GMT
- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360596.page GMT
I made gas jets for one of them to represent poo gas jets so they can putz around the field. Breathing poo gas on all the enemies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360699.page GMT I guess I agree about this second try, versus the first. But I still have a special place in my heart for gribbly number one as well.

JD: I'm definitely going to be working on the vents, engine, powerpack, and so on.

Goatboy: I'd love to see your stuff, and I bet others would as well. You should start a thread.

Further progress.
I've begun working on the demon prince's base and legs. As I want this army to be striding across the ruins of the Imperium, I found a special way to ornament his base:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr11.sized.jpg[/img]
That's the general pose, before pinning.
I also sculpted a series of hooked claws, for the creature's "feet":
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr12.sized.jpg[/img]
Then I pinned the feet in place (including the ball joint -- since I find the sentinel ball joints tend break their glue bonds). And began greenstuffing in the claws and tendrils of possession:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr14.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr15.jpg[/img]

The modeling is still WIP -- I need to touch up the claws (needed them to harden up more before whittling them), and I'll be working in at least one more layer of "skin" and tendrils, as well as claws for the back of the feet (raptor-style).
Lemme know what you think.
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no seriously this is some amazing work, keep it up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360877.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360877.page GMT
And the pilot is superb. Love it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/360895.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/361201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/361201.page GMT [img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr16.sized.jpg[/img]
and:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr17.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr18.sized.jpg[/img]
(That green blob behind the feet-tendrils is just stuck on the base, to begin to layer it up to the shattered-aquilla mound -- it'll eventually be textured.)

As for the cabin of the creature, I decided to go with a suggestion offered by someone in my gaming club and give the beast a malignant eyeball, rather than a full-blown Cthullu makeover -- although as you can see, I couldn't resist adding in a bit of a tentacle beard.
Still WIP:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr19.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr20.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr22.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr23.sized.jpg[/img]
It's hard from those images to get an overall sense of the proportions and "fit" of the cabin/face/torso as a whole. This shot works best in that regard:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr24.sized.jpg[/img]
I plan to work more on the tentacle beard, and to begin "possessifying" the vents, engine, and so on next.

How's it look so far?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/363049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/363049.page GMT
What that means vis a vie this model is that it is reaching perfection, but too much will make it as busy as your last Daemon prince, which was too over the top. You have a great concept and vision don't over do it. Make it work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/363059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/363059.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/366096.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/366096.page GMT
What that means vis a vie this model is that it is reaching perfection, but too much will make it as busy as your last Daemon prince, which was too over the top. You have a great concept and vision don't over do it. Make it work.[/quote]

This is great advice -- I tend to agree that I'm on the verge of overdoing it here, so I'm trying to keep new touches light.

I've been working on the gun arm (taking a regular sentinel multilaser as my starting point).
First, I green-stuffed in a bit of daemonic tissue:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr25.jpg[/img]
Then I pinned it to the sentinel cab -- a bit twisted, a bit out (leaving room for a bit more of that daemonic tissue).

[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr26.jpg[/img]
Here's a better look at the pinning and the angle.
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr27.sized.jpg[/img]
and another angle:

[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr28.sized.jpg[/img]
And here's a look at the whole thing, temporarily pinned together:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr29.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr30.sized.jpg[/img]

Next to do:
Greenstuff a vaguely arm-ish join between the gun arm and the cab.
And then, work out the power pack and something sinister to balance the gun arm on the other side. (Frankly, I'm not yet sure just what I'll do there. Maybe just a few erupting cables and tentacles?)

C&C is invited.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/369579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/369579.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/369611.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/369611.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/369679.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/369679.page GMT In the back of my mind, I've been wondering how to model "Blade Thralls" (i.e., bloodletters) for this army.
I love the new bloodletter models. But they really don't fit the theme or look of the stuff I've been doing.
So I bought a box, put it on the shelf, and dithered.
Then I found [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/213041.page]Virulent's take on bloodletters[/url] (half way down page 2).
:shock:
Damn, those are really evocative.
I decided to steal and modify the idea. Shaved the horns and elongated skull off of one of the bloodletter heads. Greenstuffed some ragged pants on (to evoke the guardsmen these shattered creatures once were). (The shoulders and chest parts I'll paint as warped carapace armor -- the rest as skin.) And (this last decision is tenative) greenstuffed in tendrils on the back spine (picking up on a visual theme that also appears on the horrors, demon princes, etc.).
Which, somewhat roughly modeled (mold lines and all!), looks like:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/bloodletter_concept1.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/bloodletter_concept2.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/bloodletter_concept3.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/bloodletter_concept4.sized.jpg[/img]

I kind of like it. I think. I'll have to paint up the test figure to be sure.
What do you think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/370602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/370602.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/370871.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/370871.page GMT IG clothing and/or armor

but they do look good]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/371794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/371794.page GMT Spent a few days tinkering here and there. Basically, she's ready to paint.
Here's how she looks nekkid:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr31.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr32.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr33.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr34.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_mfr35.sized.jpg[/img]

So far, I like it.
Hope I don't mess it up too bad trying to paint it!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/374528.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/374528.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/374674.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/374674.page GMT FLGS is hosting an RTT on September 20th, just in time to motivate me to undertake a burst of painting. I'll have about 10 days to work 1500 points-worth into presentable condition. Most everything is at least partially painted -- everything but the second demon prince.
As of tonight, the army looks like this:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_army_status_9_10_2008.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_army_statusB_9_10_2008.sized.jpg[/img].

The list includes
a bloodletter (a lightly converted Belakor model)
2 x 3 flamers (using the GW models)
4 fiends
9 plaguebearers, icon
8 plaguebearers, icon
9 horrors, bolt of Tz, changling
8 horrors, bolt of Tz
Demon prince, mark of Nurgle, iron hide
Demon prince, mark of Tz, bolt, gaze

The horrors I've only just started (concentrating on flesh tones so far).
The plaguebearers (mutants, from an LatD version of the army) need touching up and detailing.
The bloodthirster needs repair (one wing fell off).
The Tz demon prince needs, well, everything.

Tomorrow I'll give the list a test run.
And then, I plan to put in a few hours of painting every day to pull things into shape for the tournament.
It's going to be a sprint!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/375738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/375738.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/376151.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/376151.page GMT That and the horrors just rock like nothing else. Well done!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/376330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/376330.page GMT
Here I am trying to assemble on a flank, preparing for a push on an opponent's objective:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_army_massing_for_move_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

Meanwhile, back behind my lines, here's the bloodthirster and the better part of a plaguebearer unit, holding my own objective:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/bloodthirster_plaguebearers_objective_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

After a few quiet turns, the bloodthirster gets bored and sends out some newly summoned fiends to scare off an enemy thrust:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/bloodthirster_sends_the_fiends_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

Here's one of my demon princes (gifted with a mark of nurgle and iron hide, for this tournament), lugging a wound with him as he storms a Black Templar position:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_nurgle_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

Here are some horrors, looking for warp fire targets:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

Here are some plaguebearers, taunting their opponents (just before going to ground!)
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/plaguebearers2_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

and another look at some plaguebearers:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/plaguebearers_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

More and better pictures to come in the next day or too....
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385041.page GMT First, a demon prince staring down some crisis suits:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince_staring_down_crisis_suits_tournament_Sept2008.sized.jpg[/img]

And then, a dramatic demonstration of the efficacy of flamers. One of my opponents, a Black Templar player, sent a chaplain and a unit of assault marines boldly across the table to threaten my objective. On my turn, two sets of flamers appeared from the Warp, each scattering only slightly.
Here's the before:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/flamers_assault_marines_1.sized.jpg[/img]
and the after:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/flamers_assault_marines_2.sized.jpg[/img]

At that point, my opponent was forced to basically dig in around his own objective and wait for my counterattack. (Which, incidentally, he did manage to repulse.) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385077.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385165.page GMT
The horrors:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors_PIP1.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors_PIP2.sized.jpg[/img]
and (my camera flash went off for this one, so it's a bit too golden and glowy:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horrors_PIP3.sized.jpg[/img].

And here's a closeup showing my very lame effort at creating a glowy source lighting from the eyes:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/horror_PIP_lame_source_lighting.sized.jpg[/img]
(Not successful. I'll have another go at it, I suppose.)

(I still have more to do with these creatures. This is the basic scheme, though -- tying into the IG regiment scheme colors (mustard buff, and red armor) with some demon elements (blue, for Tzeentch, for these guys), and a suggestion of pink (for Pink Horrors).

Painting progress on the Tzeentchian Demon Prince to come soon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/385434.page GMT [img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/pip.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_PIP2.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/demon_prince2_PIP1.sized.jpg[/img]

He looks a bit darker in the pictures, at least those last two, than he does in the, um, flesh -- but I still want to brighten the overall effect with sharper, lighter highlights on the metal and red/flesh parts.

I'm not sure what to do with the daemon eyes. Definitely something blue. But what should I do with an iris. I was thinking something like a cat eye, and at first I thought maybe yellow -- but now I'm worried it would look weird (weird in the wrong way, I mean). Suggestions would be helpful.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/386000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/386000.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/391508.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/391508.page GMT
It's things like that, which make me keep coming back to 40k.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/391511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/391511.page GMT
The concept here is a mini tornado of cable, sinew, gore and IG detritus, topped by a double-headed flamer -- a swirling storm of daemonic energy
(The Lord of Change comes equipped with daemonic flight, various "shooting" powers, and considerable combat heft.)

The project started, you may recall, with a very basic armature:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_WIP1.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_WIP2.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_WIP3.jpg[/img]

Over the last few evenings, I've been adding a "gun arm," a "ccw arm," the first few strands of cable, and a lot of greenstuff. Producing:
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_wip7.sized.jpg[/img]
(There's a good look at the gun arm)
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_wip10.sized.jpg[/img]
and
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_wip14.sized.jpg[/img]
and (a pretty good look at the ccw arm)
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_wip6.sized.jpg[/img]
and (from behind -- with some cabling)
[img]http://www.dangerplanetgames.com/gallery/albums/album31/Lord_of_Change_wip8.sized.jpg[/img]

This is very much WIP. The final skin/texture will look nothing like what you see up and down the torso of the whirlwind. Lots and lots more greenstuff, cable, imperial wreckage and so on will be layered in and on.
But I thought you might be interested in seeing the thing at this skeletal stage.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/397856.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/397856.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/397958.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/397958.page GMT
A bit more structure (and a good heap of paint to tie it all together ^_-) and I'll be able to give a better crit!

Good work so far though. You're not helping this 'I WANNA SCULPT' kick my minds been on lately that I've been pushing to the back of my brain....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/398335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/398335.page GMT
So disturbing and sickening. Keep it up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/398956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/398956.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/400771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/400771.page GMT LoC to have the souls of the IG soldiers within the vortex I think you can you the wraiths from VC as spirits or could make your own]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/401272.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/211100/401272.page GMT