http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/7.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net luddite? (joke)

I like it. I haven't tried to make custom lists on it or anything yet, but
I do like using it. So far it hasn't done me wrong with my Wood Elfs (that I
know of).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305819.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305819.page GMT
BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305823.page GMT
I am all for it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305826.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305827.page GMT
What's why God invented Excel.

BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305843.page GMT
Create a 'Nid list, and go through the descriptions.

For really in-depth stuff, you will need to purchase a Codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305851.page GMT
What's why God invented Excel.

BYE[/quote]
I thought Excel was invented for Tax Evasion.

I like writing out lists by hand. It's a visceral process and very satisfying to
add up numbers and see what you get on your first go-through. But eventually
you want to tweak or confirm your math ability (or lack thereof) and army builder
makes it easier to figure things out.

It's also important for Fantasy as the amount of Magic Items can be staggering,
at least for my small mind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305857.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305925.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/305927.page GMT
I still don't know if that makes me for or against, so just put me down for a 3. I am a picky sort.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306029.page GMT program, Tacobake. Any lKai Lord would do so.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306067.page GMT
that, and I don't want GW coming after me.

Edit:

now here's a thought. I would be willing to write it for dakka, along the same vein as B&C's Spaze Marinez painting thinger. If GW was going after anyone, it would lego and yak. I would be happy with credit, same as any sourceforge program.

in fact I think I will start a thread in N&B ...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306105.page GMT
Subscriptions, limitations and activation codes are obnoxcious, I have 4 computers at home including 2 laptops...

I don't see anything there that was a monstrous improvement over AB2 really. I still found plenty of bugs in the newly released armies as they came out.

I have used the watermark feature and I always use it for my lists so...

Overall I like it.

(Eagerly waiting for AB4... not really)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306131.page GMT
I enjoyed using the tools to create custom bloodbowl team files. It's not too hard once you get into it. So all those people who complain about not having their files updated are just being lazy.

Mostly I dissaprove of AB3 because it doesn't do enough over AB2. Kind of like going from windows 98 home to windows 98 pro. You just get the same thing with less bugs. Why pay for it?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306500.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306500.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306678.page GMT
I think what I like most, aside from the sheer convenience, is the ability to use Army Builder with different games systems, not just WHFB or WH40K.

Did anyone reading this thread buy/use Games Workshop's proprietary army creator program, back when they were pushing it a few years ago? I seem to recall that you had to buy different programs for different armies- like, one program for the Imperium and a different program for enemies of the Imperium. Are those programs even still available, let alone supported with timely updates?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306837.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306837.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306885.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306885.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306901.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/306901.page GMT
Did anyone reading this thread buy/use Games Workshop's proprietary army creator program, back when they were pushing it a few years ago? I seem to recall that you had to buy different programs for different armies- like, one program for the Imperium and a different program for enemies of the Imperium. Are those programs even still available, let alone supported with timely updates?[/quote]

Armies of the Imperium, Enemies of the IMperium. two seperate CD's that cost 30 dollars each. The support for those 'CD;'s was attrocious at best. I was gifted them when they first came out and honestly, after waiting for updates, I just went back to pen and paper.

It was a great idea, but someone at GW dropped the ball. From what I understand the person updating it was solo and was very slow. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307090.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307361.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307395.page GMT
If we support the interests of software developers, then
ultimately we benefit through their continued development
of software.

I was going to connect an example to the porn industry, but
that might be a bit much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307399.page GMT
I can't quite give it a 5 because of some of it's quirkyness with updating licenses, reinstalling etc. However, I'll deal with it because I hate making army lists any other way. I still like it enough to recommend it to friends. Plus, my handwriting is atrocious so my opponents undoubtedly appreciate me using it as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307565.page GMT
I want my money back.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307755.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307755.page GMT
I have never had an issue with licencing or the software.

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Ihave the previous version and use it. once fifth hits things may change. PnP is 10x time, but ussually less willing to be changed, or is that related to the 10x time. yea. it is.

How should I vote.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307804.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307808.page GMT
Quit it.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307810.page GMT
G]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307814.page GMT IG and 'nids, and fiddling around with lists would've been about as fun as death my paper cuts. I've always been curious about the love that v2 gets, because the only way you could improve on 3 would be whenever you made a list, it purchased the models for you using it's stash of leprechaun gold.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307931.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/307931.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308003.page GMT
I've been using AB3 since March 2006. I've had some minor problems with the licencing (due to system crashes and the like). However, I must say that in more than two years the problems have been very minor.

The main issue is around having to wait 120 days to transfer to a new "system". You can uninstall, install & activate as much as you like until you change the system (I have successfully reinstalled my OS and had no problem with reactivation). But then AB gives you TWO licences to get around that problem.

I don't particularly like the licencing system (I'm not going to pay for years worth of "updates" when they're not updating the program). At the moment the anual fee only gives you the ability to download and install the data files (which are written by volunteers) from inside the program. You can go to AB40k maintianers and download the files manually.

Now if you're going to be stopped from using AB because of these minor issues .... it's your loss. Please don't try to convince us that AB is useless, no good or not worth it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308133.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308133.page GMT
Unfortunately, because that's the only way to get updates for the new armies. AB2 is no longer supported.

I mean, if you can create your own files for AB2, then great. That's awesome for you (and, please send all the new ones to me ).
Unfortunately, though many (or most) of us can't. So, the only way to get the newest army files is to have the only program they are available for.


Eric]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308593.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308593.page GMT
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/308616.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/309126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/309126.page GMT I think it's great for tweaking lists and the printouts are easy to read.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/309160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212700/309160.page GMT