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By closet geek I am the type of person that thinks online ordering is the best thing since sliced bread not because of the discounts but because I don’t have to go near a games workshop, this is because every time I do go in one I spend most my time being embarrassed on other peoples behalves when thirty year olds are getting over excited and shouting ‘waagghhhh’ at there ten year old opponent (an exaggeration maybe but its this openly geek like behaviour that makes me uncomfortable). I mean this is rather stupid of me I realise that and not the point of the post.

So basically by being a closet geek that side of me is pretty much reserved for the small gaming group I am part of. Its not like I would choose to talk to work colleagues or the like about it.

Now I have the problem I have had before, just starting to get semi serious with a girl after impressing her with my wit, charm and incredibly large… intellect. But it always difficult to then come out with ‘well hun you know you were thinking I am quite cool, well surprise I spend far to much money on small lumps of plastic which I then paint and push round a table with other grown men’ I mean its certainly an odd hobby. You know I end wondering if I should break her into it gently or something :] .

So I was generally wondering if anyone else has the same kind of problems, I mean does anyone else have as small a spine as mien when it comes to the hobby. How did others break the news to there partners? Or was it always obvious for many here?
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Grow up and grow a pair. And I mean that in the nicest possible way - if you can't accept yourself in your own image, then no one else ever will.

when I met my wife I was a bartender in a gentleman's club (read tittie bar) and I was upfront with her about the fact that I spent 80+ hours a week working with naked women and that in my spare time I played with little plastic dolls. I've been married now for 6 years and have a son with her so she obviously didn't care that much about the plastic dolls (though I stopped bartening a few months after meeting her). Still doesn't.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309733.page GMT only to discover your secret rendezvous is with other men
in other men's basements playing with toy soldiers.

Judd Apatow told me that, and it's the truth.

It helps to never have been "cool." ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309734.page GMT When my first wife found out I was a game geek she hated it. She was not a nice person to begin with. Still isn't, but that's another story. She forbade me to play. Hence, one of the reasons she is my ex-wife... that and the fact that she is a cowgirl. I am not.
When my wife (the current one) found my stash of game stuff in the proverbial closet she gave me that, "you're a damned geek" look. Then she started looking at my treasure trove of plastic and metal toys and was impressed by the amount of patience and skill it took for me to actually paint the little silver pants blue. She always calls me the "geek in cool clothing". She won't go to the game store with me. I don't blame her. She's a very attractive woman and always gets the "there's boobies in the store" looks and stares from the drooling geeks there. Sad thing is, I really don't like going into the game store either because of those same weirdos. When I enter or leave I always feel a little embarassed. Call me a snob... don't care. I like the games but having to deal with alot of the gaming population is embarassing. There's nothing like running into a game geek in public and he starts talking about armour saves and weapon strengths and how the *enter new Codex here* makes the new army way too powerful or broke the army. Sorry, I don't go for that. There are others like me that give the knowing nod and continue on about their lives without mentioning the games in public.
My advice... let her know. It's a part of you. She'll probably make fun of you for a bit but if she really likes you she'll understand. We all have flaws. If she can't get over it... make fun of her shoes, the women I know hate that. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309735.page GMT
By which time what I did for fun a couple of hours a week wasn't really a big issue!

Anyhow, now my lads are a bit older and they can geek-out with their old dad, She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed positively encourages it as it means she can spend time doing other stuff instead of looking after them, knowing we are safely ensconced in our little geek heaven together!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309736.page GMT WH40k at the time but I was a RPGer (and still am) and a Larper (no time) and gotta admit it wasn't the first thing I mentioned on a date. That being said I think after a couple of dates once she's got to know you, what you do as a hobby aint as important as prehaps you think (unless it happens to be cross dressing or murdering prostitutes). She's going out with you and not your hobby as long as it don't interfere with date time it don't matter.

As an aside whereabouts in lincolnshire are you? I'm over in grimsby and your experience of GW shops sounds like our branch (but maybe every branch is the same).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309737.page GMT
That is the worst thing, and actually the reason i stopped going to my local gaming club, running into people that would strike up a conversation about it when i was with work mates in a pub and the like, its not cool]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309740.page GMT GW shops sounds like our branch (but maybe every branch is the same).[/quote]

I am in Louth mate so yeah grimsby is my local branch... glad someone else feels the same... plus its so damn small]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309742.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309742.page GMT
Got married, popped a sprog, did a degree and developed my career a bit.

Had to take a 10 year holiday from the games, mind you, and was only slowly able to infiltrate it back into my life.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309748.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309748.page GMT
Do you talk sports? Or movies? Or anything?

I can understand if you dislike people talking flame hate
in public, or drooling over females in comic book art, but
talking about something you enjoy is a good thing.

Don't hide your lamp under a basket.

Unless you're trying to assassinate someone. Then it's
appropriate.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309753.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309756.page GMT
Do you talk sports? Or movies? Or anything?

I can understand if you dislike people talking flame hate
in public, or drooling over females in comic book art, but
talking about something you enjoy is a good thing.

Don't hide your lamp under a basket.[/quote]

To be fair though movies and sports, even computer games etc are a little bit more... well accepted. I mean i work as a very hands on factory manager, i have friends who tend to, how can you put it be more ladish and mens men so you dont really want to talk about playing with little plastic men around them.

In the right company i will talk geek like the best of them, but i just think time a place a dude, maybe i just think i do have a slightly cool reputation to uphold. Sad aint it...

[quote=Ifurita]If you have a cool circle of friends who you game with, introduce her to them first and then introduce the concept of gaming.[/quote]

This i did try, and it went alright, but even they are closet geeks to its like a secret society we have going :] maybe i will just let her disover the cuboard ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309760.page GMT
(oh that came out wrong..lol)

if your friends, work mates etc, can't accept you for all the quirckyness that you offer, then tell them to get soaked. I would imagine you have some "tough guy" friends that like to dress in womens clothing on the weekends or other similar things that you might find odd or even disgusting.

If you can't be honest with your friends about what you like, then you can't be honest and that's a problem. Besides there is nothing more manly than taking dice and plastic soldiers and revisiting old/historic wars and besting your opponent. (Risk, Stratego, Chess, Go, etc are all games of strategy and tactics) and guess what, so is tabletop wargaming.

so, you can stay in the closet and play alone, or not. The choice is ultimately yours. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309779.page GMT
The result?

No one really cared. It wasn't an instant change on the social landscape. Everyone either said 'Show me more' or 'Whatever' and things went on as normal.

One guy tried to use it to annoy me, but he was a dick and a few months later started playing High Elves (and was a huge D&D fan...), so goody for him.

BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309780.page GMT
Do you talk sports? Or movies? Or anything?

I can understand if you dislike people talking flame hate
in public, or drooling over females in comic book art, but
talking about something you enjoy is a good thing.

Don't hide your lamp under a basket.[/quote]

Movies, sports, everyday life, videogames. Talking about something you enjoy is a good thing, as long as the other person is interested. I'm sure underwater basketweaving is interesting for some, but I'd rather not hear about other people's niche hobbies as well. So yeah I'd talk about 40k if I'm with my geek friends, but only mention it in passing if the need arises otherwise. Except when I use it as an opener.

@Salad: I've actually used 40k-humor as a conversation starter to pick up chicks. It's fun talking with friends while out and about because I can use whatever we're talking about whatever. Same with asking girls if they think you'd look good in pink (as we passed by a store in the mall with Victoria's Secret PINK plastered all over) or if they cared if someone was a nerd but was also pretty cool (since I was with a low self-esteem friend and I proved to him that they don't by asking a random hot chick). One time I even convinced this girl that a Guitar Hero themed party would be pretty cool and got her to buy me some ice cream and a burger. Doesn't beat my friend who got a girl to buy him half a tank of gas but I hope it convinces you that chicks have no prob with nerdy crap. I'm not in your predicament cuz I'm really not looking to get tied down just yet, but from my experiences talking with random attractive girls, they just don't care as long as you're cool and confident anyway. According to you, you've already demonstrated that. It looks like other people's bad experiences have to do with an SO's control issues, which is why I'm hoping to put off commitment for as long as possible.

But yeah, I get what you mean. It IS weird and sometimes uncomfortable seeing a grown man yelling WAAAGH at a 10 year old. It IS odd when someone shouts "For the Emperor!" and "Eradicate the Heretic!" with such zeal that you wonder if they're substituting the word Emperor and Heretic for some other real-life issue. But neither of those is as bad as the guy who tells you about his 50-page fanfic of some homemade chapter legion. I'll be polite, nod, and excuse myself later, but it doesn't mean I was interested.

[quote], i have friends who tend to, how can you put it be more ladish and mens men so you dont really want to talk about playing with little plastic men around them. [/quote]
The challenge here is to subtly tell them that everything manly they cherish is subtly homoerotic. What you need to do is get them to realize it on their own and have a laugh about it afterwards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309792.page GMT

There, I've said it.

Seriously though, I'm like this too, I have my paints and models packed up in a box on my desk, and there they stay. I don't talk to my mates about it, they wouldn't be interested, and why on earth would I tell girls? That'd be suicide. I'm at a London art college, it's not the done thing here. I know this all seems awfuly sad, but I don't see any reason why my hobby shouldn't be seperate from the rest of my life. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309826.page GMT
Well, yeah. People who will go out of their way to try to piss you
off about your hobby are going to be that. I just believe everyone
should just deal with your interests as your interests. It's not like
you're obnoxiously trying to get them to play those games with
you, and you're not hurting anyone.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309829.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309829.page GMT
Stop being a p*ssy.

Whether it's in life or a relationship, you need to be yourself and be true to yourself.
Wht would you give a feth about ANYONE who would judge you negatively about the harmless activities you choose as a hobby?

I mean, if your idea of a fun Saturday afternoon was clubbing baby seals I could understand your trepidation at having "The Big Secret" come out. Dude. All you do is paint toy soldiers and push them around a table strategically, recreating imitation battles in space.
Big deal. It's not a problem until you break out the fermented virgin blood.

Before the end of the third date she should know about your hobbies. If she's going to judge you negatively for it, then to h*ll with her.
Same with your coworkers and non-gaming friends.

It's more important to be true to who YOU are as a whole person than try to "closet" any aspect of who you are and what you do. To do otherwise will just lead to eventual disappointment. Not to mention the fact that being ashamed of yourself is a character flaw that not enough people try to overcome.


Eric]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309838.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309851.page GMT
I didn't get into 40k until I was 23/24. It's always been a part of my life. When I started dating my current wife, we lived in the same apartment complex and it was the fall. I told her she could come down to my apartment anytime, but we could only go out on Friday nights. Monday was Monday night Football, Tuesday and Thursday were game nights, Wednesday was college football. Saturday and Sunday were football days as well. While watching football, I painted in front of the TV.

She started coming down and learned about football and painting. She's painted some herself although she would never play. Now that we've just finished up (hopefully) our last 6 month hospital stay with our eldest, she is encouraging me to get out of the house and go play games.

Even when I'm out all night, coming home at 9 in the morning just in time for church, she's fine with it. I'm with gamer geeks pushing little toy soldiers around a table. It's not like I'm at the nudie bar looking at some 19 year old working her way through nursing school.

As hobbies go, something that requires time at home painting (allowing her to be in the same room and ramble on while you have a valid excuse to not pay perfect attention) is not exactly the end of the world.

Man up and if it's serious, introduce her to that side. Leave some well painted models and some in progress out on the table and let her ask the question... Wimmen love to ask questions.

If all else fails, take away her shoes and point her towards the kitchen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309857.page GMT
I've been married for (just under) 3 years now. My wife and I have known each other for about 8 and she knew about my "hobbies" early on in the relationship. Part of the reason why I love her (and that we've been able to stay together through LOTS of trying times) is because she respects me, even if she doesn't "get" something or doesn't agree with it. While she may not enjoy gaming, she knows that I do and she's very supportive of my hobby. She always wants to see what I'm working on, she makes sure that I get enough time each week to build and game. Heck, she even offers to bring down food and drinks during game nights!

If your partner doesn't respect you for who you are, then you have to ask yourself whether that's someone you see a future with (regardless of how you want to define your relationship).

My personal view is that the reason the divorce rate in this country is so high and that so many single people I know find it impossible to find a good partner is because way too many people try to make themselves the ideal partner while hiding their true self because they're afraid of being judged or appear imperfect. The problem is no one is perfect, EVERYONE has their quirks/imperfections/blemishes/geekiness.

All you can do is be yourself and not worry about whether you're too "geeky".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309859.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309859.page GMT
Chicks. If they don't want you for who and what you truly are, then they are REALLY not worth it. Mine loves my hobby for a lot of the reasons others have mentioned.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309860.page GMT
So ask yourself, are you That Guy?


If not get on with your life. Everyone has hobbies, if the girl thinks your only hobby is making money for her then she's probably not someone you'd want to date in the first place. She probably has something she likes but hasn't shared it either out of embarrassment. I've known a lot of women who thought video games were cool and other things like that, but felt they couldn't admit it because, regardless of what Gyrl Gamerz say, it still somewhat of a stigma for females to be interested in gaming.

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There, I've said it.

Seriously though, I'm like this too, I have my paints and models packed up in a box on my desk, and there they stay. I don't talk to my mates about it, they wouldn't be interested, and why on earth would I tell girls? That'd be suicide. I'm at a London art college, it's not the done thing here. I know this all seems awfuly sad, but I don't see any reason why my hobby shouldn't be seperate from the rest of my life. [/quote]

why not pull the models out and put them on your desk. I have new friends come over all the time and inevitably they ask me about the "things on the table." I pick them up and show them what I paint. You don't need to go in depth about the history of 40k, but you can give them a brief synopsis. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309865.page GMT OP's concerns. Unfortunately, as has been covered on other threads, many of the stereotypes do hold true. Just the other day I almost forfeited a game because of the stench of body odor from someone in the room. Seriously, it was bad enough to fill the entire store.

I use several strategies when it becomes necessary to talk about miniatures. One way is to draw an analogy to something more familiar, such as model railroading. I use that one a lot. Another good analogy is with board games, which for some reason are completely acceptable to play as an adult.

What most of you are concerned about, I'm sure, is introducing a new girlfriend to this. One reason this is a big concern is the simple fact that if you are pursuing a serious relationship it is going to have to come out sooner or later. I like to head things off at the pass and mention that I do some art projects in my spare time. The next question is " Oh? What sort of stuff do you do?", to which I respond by saying that I paint miniature figurines ( that word is very important, not models or miniatures ). When it comes time to explain that you actually play a game with these, I explain that it is a military strategy game, much like a chess game where you make the board and paint the pieces. If she ends up coming to a game, it is in your best interest to try to engineer a time to play when TFG(s) aren't there.

Self effacing humor can work, as mentioned earlier.

If that all seems wimpy and evasive, just come right out and say you like building and playing with toy soldiers with other grown men. Take it or leave it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309878.page GMT
Compromise is just a dirty word for surrender.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309896.page GMT
[quote=C.S. Lewis]Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow.

But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.[/quote]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309914.page GMT
[quote=C.S. Lewis]Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow.

But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.[/quote][/quote]

I agree with you and Mr. Lewis wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, I know the reality of the situation and adjust accordingly. I'm nothing if not pragmatic about it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309960.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309960.page GMT
Most people have summed it up pretty well. I might tell the people at work you play "war games" for extra manliness, but seriously I wouldn't quibble about it. It isn't like you write erotic furry fanfiction. (Is it?)

I think the leaving models out on the desk to show the girlfriend is the best bet if you want to broach it gently. Most people have a very hard time grasping the idea as an abstract unless they are gamers themselves, so bringing it up at dinner without visual aids is not really an optimal method.

In all seriousness though, I highly recommend NOT hiding things you like to do from significant others (though if it is highly immoral/illegal, I would wait a bit). Sooner or later she is going to find out, and you don't want it to be after you have a kid and you can't kick her to the curb. If my "all I did in college was study and watch girly things with kittens saving money" wife can deal with my two hobbies of tiny gun toting nuns and competitive armored combat, every man can find something similar (or at least deserves it.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309970.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309970.page GMT 40k, I play WoW. All of my friends know this, if I meet someone new who doesn't like it, well, I guess I have enough friends already. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309976.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/309976.page GMT
Do you talk sports? Or movies? Or anything?

I can understand if you dislike people talking flame hate
in public, or drooling over females in comic book art, but
talking about something you enjoy is a good thing.

Don't hide your lamp under a basket.[/quote]

But yeah, I get what you mean. It IS weird and sometimes uncomfortable seeing a grown man yelling WAAAGH at a 10 year old. It IS odd when someone shouts "For the Emperor!" and "Eradicate the Heretic!" with such zeal that you wonder if they're substituting the word Emperor and Heretic for some other real-life issue. But neither of those is as bad as the guy who tells you about his 50-page fanfic of some homemade chapter legion. I'll be polite, nod, and excuse myself later, but it doesn't mean I was interested.

[quote], i have friends who tend to, how can you put it be more ladish and mens men so you dont really want to talk about playing with little plastic men around them. [/quote]
The challenge here is to subtly tell them that everything manly they cherish is subtly homoerotic. What you need to do is get them to realize it on their own and have a laugh about it afterwards.[/quote]

A grown man show never yell "Waaaaagh!" at anyone aged over 5 and under 20.

Come on Stonefox, you know the Spase Marienz are totally homoerotic. Everything exaggeratedly masculine is homoerotic.

The only reason to boast about one's sexual conquests of females is because of hidden or subconscious doubts about one's hetero identity.

What women like most is a good sense of humour.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310020.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310020.page GMT
That aside, most of us here are aware of what acceptable behavior is and what isn’t. Most of us know you need to shower, you shouldn’t be screaming “whaaag” at the top of your lungs outside of the game store, and you shouldn’t launch into long winded tirades on topics that don’t interest the people you are talking to. You just don’t. So it really just breaks down to who your audience is. If anyone ever asks me what my hobbies are, 40k, video games, D&D, anime, and other nerd activities always pop up. There’s no shame, remorse, or apology offered and there shouldn’t be. If someone asks what one of those things is, I’ll follow it up with a 1-3 sentence description and more or less leave it at that. If they ask further, then I’ll go into more detail, but the trick is to not launch into a huge overzealous tirade of nerd babble to someone who doesn’t really want to hear it. If you’re not sure if they want to hear it or not, assume they don’t and change the subject. If they really wanted to hear about it, they’ll ask again later. Heck, I think I’ve mentioned 40k in the last 4 or so job interviews I’ve been on. Some interviewers never probe past the names; others have dug deeper into what these things I do really are. At the interview for my current job (I’m a chemical engineer working in what is essentially a lead smelting plant) I had a fairly long conversation with my current boss about World of Warcraft and Battlefield 2142.

None of my girl friends (or perspectives) has ever had an issue with any of my hobbies but I also don’t ever try to hide them. The miniatures are wherever they are. There is a book case full of RPG and comic books right next to the door of my bed room. There are anime wall scrolls up in my house. These things are present but not overwhelming. All the walls of my house are not covered in anime posters, there are not piles of RPG books blocking walkways, there are not miniatures covering every flat surface. The end message to other people is that these things are part of my life but they are not the only things in my life and I think that’s what is really important.
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Booyah! I'm 40 and recently divorced. I have a PoF profile and provide a link to my MySpace page. Here it is, it is an homage to my dorkdom: http://www.myspace.com/gaffneycj So the ladies are going to see that before they email me or whatnot, but I could give a Skaven's behind what they think. And for the record, this meeting chicks online thing is the schizzle. Been divorced since Feb 15th and have had 13 'encounters' if you know what I mean, and they all saw the MySpace page first (single moms over 40 don't care either). So I'd have to say let your dorkyness hang out, say it loud and say it proud!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310098.page GMT 40k, but it manifests itself in other ways too. My wife and I have a bookshelf full of manga; I'm a grad student in physics and have a bookshelf full of physics texts; I have a significant collection of "pulp" movies like Battle Royale; I love video RPGs; etc. People who meet me will realize that I get excited and obsessed over a variety of particular things, so I don't think that learning I play 40k would be a shock to anybody who has spent more than an hour talking to me.

Like others, though, I do not engage in geek talk with someone who hasn't shown him/herself to be interested. That's just inconsiderate. Most people I interact with don't know that I play 40k, but it's not that I'm hiding it; it just doesn't come up.

I've never had to introduce the fact that I play 40k to a serious girlfriend -- I played some in high school but stopped before I left for college because I lost interest, and when I regained interest I was already engaged -- but I would introduce it without making a big deal about it. If you turn it into some grand revelation, your girl might find it weird. If you just leave your models out and let her ask about them, you can give a casual explanation and make it out to be no big deal. That's the right way, if you ask me, as it should indeed be no big deal.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310172.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310172.page GMT As an example, I beat over 100 other people for a promotion at work by teaching my interviewers how to assemble and prep Orks for painting.
Seriously what would make you nod at, smile, and back away slowly from a person in a truly rational world, someone who loves running into people as fast as they can while carrying a ball, or someone who enjoys honing his creative skills? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310174.page GMT As an example, I beat over 100 other people for a promotion at work by teaching my interviewers how to assemble and prep Orks for painting. [/quote]

That's got to be an interesting story.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310178.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310223.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310223.page GMT
Mrs. Press throws a *&^%-fit every time I go out gaming, but I just ignore her. She gets to use it as leverage to make me watch the kids while she goes out sometimes, so fair is fair, right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310325.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310325.page GMT 40k cause while i love the hobby its still a small part of who i am. I really would as someone put it up there grab a ball and run fast at other people (but not in that pussy armour wearing american way, good old rugby). So i suppose its more to be about being honest about part of me which is a small part but is at odds with everything else i enjoy.

Though getting promoted at work thanks to 40k sure beats my last jobs method of having to play to much golf.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310377.page GMT
This has not stopped me from having good friends, a loving fiancee and a baby boy.

I frankly think I have a more interesting life than those who sit around watching soaps and un-reality TV, before going out and getting p155ed on a weekend, but its all down to personal preference.

I have no problem with what anyone wants to do with their spare time. If they have a problem with what I do I have the (admittedly smug) comfort of the moral high ground.

Just go with the flow and let people accept you for who you are. If they don't, are they really people you want to know??


P.S. - I came close to managing Grimsby GW when I worked for them a few years ago. It sounds like I had a lucky escape from some of the yokels - err, locals ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310396.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310396.page GMT
So what do you do for fun? What? Listen to music, watch TV, and get drunk? No, these are things you do while you're doing the things you do for fun. Hell, I do all three in a typical 40k match.

Honestly, I've spent many hours trying to figure out what non-geeks do for fun in an effort to bridge the gap between them and I, but for the life of me I can't figure it out. There's got to be more than that right? RIGHT?!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310515.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310515.page GMT
So what do you do for fun? What? Listen to music, watch TV, and get drunk? No, these are things you do while you're doing the things you do for fun. Hell, I do all three in a typical 40k match.

Honestly, I've spent many hours trying to figure out what non-geeks do for fun in an effort to bridge the gap between them and I, but for the life of me I can't figure it out. There's got to be more than that right? RIGHT?![/quote]

Well as i said above i personally like play rugby, i also play pool for my local bar in a league, hang out with friends alot, playing computer games and watch movies etc. Go out on the pull alot, i mean honestly i would rather be in a bar surounded by different kinds of people getting drunk rather then doing it in a basement while playing 40k.

I think calling normal people simply boring says more for your social skills then it does for there choice of activities]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310539.page GMT
I actually made friends (girls not lads!!!) through it by being a little sneaky. so you paint...so do up a simple landscape painting, stick it on the wall. You'd be surprised how many people notice. If it's simple but stricking they ask if you've done it. Then it flows...can you do me one, where did you learn...oh....really?...ok then, I'd still like a picture

and they come back a 2nd time to collect at which point you've just got to pot your balls (in a mannor of speaking). Also it helps if you've got one impressive piece (lotrs works as it's recognisable e.g. mumakil) out on show. And the whole packing away in a box/desk cupboard....how? mine gets pilled higher and higher, I wouldn't know how to pack it away or where to put it. My closets full of clothes.......where do you keep yours?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310546.page GMT
To each their own.

I just find getting drunk for the sake of getting drunk, and 'hanging out' incredibly boring wastes of time when you can mix in much more entertaining elements, like 40k, DnD, or playing Mystery Science Theater 3000, the Home Game version.

I'm not really certain where social skills come into play here, though. I think that comment was rather unfounded. I get along FAMOUSLY with the norms (I have to, it's my job). But when they ramble on about how much fun a certain activity was when I found it, at best, mildly amusing, I just have to wonder why I would WANT to hang out with them.

Of course this is just a personal thing, I've known geeks who have alot of fun doing norm things with norm people. I guess I'm just too far over the fence. Now if only I could find someone's basement to live in and never go outside again...


Oh and by the way, tell yourself what you want, anyone with the name Salad Fingers is a geek. Accept it, brother.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310562.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310562.page GMT
A grown man show never yell "Waaaaagh!" at anyone aged over 5 and under 20.

Come on Stonefox, you know the Spase Marienz are totally homoerotic. Everything exaggeratedly masculine is homoerotic.

The only reason to boast about one's sexual conquests of females is because of hidden or subconscious doubts about one's hetero identity.

What women like most is a good sense of humour.[/quote]

Who's boasting about sexual conquests? You should know me (at least the online persona) better by now. I totally enjoy homoeroticism and make sure all of my manly friends know it. After a tiring day of paintball or a nice workout session, you better watch out cuz that's when the buttslaps, the towel-snappings, and the shoulder-grabbing-with-a-wink-and-a-nudge start.

Actually, next summer when my friends and I should hopefully all be on a cutting streak and have sweet sixpacks, we were planning on being awesome beach bros who prank chicks. We'd start by hitting on 'em and maybe getting 'em to hang out, then later we'd all start acting really gay and scare 'em off.

[quote]Man, I've gotten to the point where I find it exhausting, both emotionally and mentally, to hang out with anyone who isn't a geek or a nerd. 'Norms' are just so friggin' BORING.

So what do you do for fun? What? Listen to music, watch TV, and get drunk? No, these are things you do while you're doing the things you do for fun. Hell, I do all three in a typical 40k match.

Honestly, I've spent many hours trying to figure out what non-geeks do for fun in an effort to bridge the gap between them and I, but for the life of me I can't figure it out. There's got to be more than that right? RIGHT?![/quote]

So what you're asking for is an outline for how "normal" people "have a life."
Hint: instead of a predictable, regular gaming session on weekends, "normal" people like to schedule events and have friends to go with them to those events. Hiking, skydiving, pulling pranks (with or without alcohol ), museums, events. Make all sorts of friends; life is infinitely more interesting when you have a social circle of 2 gunny sgts, 5 popped collar bro types, 4 nerds, 3 workaholics, and 5 athletes. Try it out sometime, bro. And stop that nerd raging. I'd recommend watching some [url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=LRYmSeFZvIU]Keys to the VIP[/url] (skip to 5:00 to get to the action) to see just how fun it is and how you could even make it a game just like 40k. It's a hilarious show anyway.

I had a friend like you once. He would call people "norms" and had an elitist view of them. It wasn't later when I made more friends who liked to do interesting things that I realized how much of a social wreck he was. Please don't be that guy, dude.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310642.page GMT
>>>Who's boasting about sexual conquests? You should know me (at least the online persona) better by now. I totally enjoy homoeroticism and make sure all of my manly friends know it. After a tiring day of paintball or a nice workout session, you better watch out cuz that's when the buttslaps, the towel-snappings, and the shoulder-grabbing-with-a-wink-and-a-nudge start.

I didn't mean you personally. I meant guys generally. I just phrased it badly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310654.page GMT ...you've just got to pot your balls (in a mannor of speaking).
Also it helps if you've got one impressive piece...
...mine gets pilled higher and higher, I wouldn't know how to pack it away or where to put it.
...where do you keep yours?[/quote]

I know what WE are talking about... but I'm not so sure YOU are talking about the same kind of "Miniature."

LOL

Eric]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310660.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310660.page GMT
.[/quote]

While you might not consider yourself a geek or nerd, others will, just roll with it. It's like fighting with someone who says Soda is called Pop or Soda Pop is called Coke. It's a battle that really has no right answer, but the more you fight it, the stupider you look..

[quote=Kilkrazy]@Stonefox

>>>Who's boasting about sexual conquests? You should know me (at least the online persona) better by now. I totally enjoy homoeroticism and make sure all of my manly friends know it. After a tiring day of paintball or a nice workout session, you better watch out cuz that's when the buttslaps, the towel-snappings, and the shoulder-grabbing-with-a-wink-and-a-nudge start.

I didn't mean you personally. I meant guys generally. I just phrased it badly.[/quote]

don't worry kilkrazy, stonefox just wanted to type butt, snap, shoulder, wink and nudge.. his erotic strings hadn't been played today and he needed to vent.. lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310734.page GMT
So what you're asking for is an outline for how "normal" people "have a life."
Hint: instead of a predictable, regular gaming session on weekends, "normal" people like to schedule events and have friends to go with them to those events. Hiking, skydiving, pulling pranks (with or without alcohol ), museums, events.[/quote]

Oh.. Well I already do all that stuff... with geeks.... Hrm.

[quote=stonefox]
Make all sorts of friends; life is infinitely more interesting when you have a social circle of 2 gunny sgts, 5 popped collar bro types, 4 nerds, 3 workaholics, and 5 athletes. Try it out sometime, bro. And stop that nerd raging. I'd recommend watching some [url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=LRYmSeFZvIU]Keys to the VIP[/url] (skip to 5:00 to get to the action) to see just how fun it is and how you could even make it a game just like 40k. It's a hilarious show anyway.

I had a friend like you once. He would call people "norms" and had an elitist view of them. It wasn't later when I made more friends who liked to do interesting things that I realized how much of a social wreck he was. Please don't be that guy, dude.[/quote]

You know, I find it kind of funny, that 'social circle' you just described? Well rearrange the numbers a little and you've just described my social circle, save for the small fact that they are ALL geeks. The gunny sgt. is a geek (granted, he's a geek without a lot of time to be geekly). The atheletes are geeks. The uh.. 'popped collar bro' types, as you call them, HUGE geeks (though we just refer to them as fratboys, regardless of whether or not they are, or have ever been a member of a frat). And the workaholic is the biggest geek I know (Actually, I might fall into that category too). Except I don't actually have many 'nerds' in my social circle.

Remember kids, Geek != Nerd.
Though the two are not mutually exclusive.

Though I think the neutrality of the internet may have skewed what I was trying to say. I don't DISLIKE the norms (anymore than I dislike any other group of people). They just bore me beyond measure. And yet I still maintain a few friendships with some of them, for reasons unbeknownst to me. It's just a view from the other end of the spectrum. Salad Fingers' original post potrayed an image (a classical archetype) of a geek ashamed of his geekdom. What I posted was just a contrast to that. In our circle one is ashamed to admit to being a 'norm'. It's actually be used as an insult a couple times.

Actually... you know what? Screw that, social diversity is overrated. People from different walks of life are stupid. And dambit, if hating everyone that doesn't think like I do is anti-social, then so be it, I'm soo riding the anti-social train to piss-offville.

Seriously though, don't call me bro.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310735.page GMT
.[/quote]

While you might not consider yourself a geek or nerd, others will, just roll with it. It's like fighting with someone who says Soda is called Pop or Soda Pop is called Coke. It's a battle that really has no right answer, but the more you fight it, the stupider you look.. [/quote]

Yeah, I don't care how stupid I look, I will fight that good fight until the day I die or the day everyone says it right, whichever comes first.

IT'S SODA YOU MONGOLOIDS!

... I've nearly lost friends over this arguement...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310738.page GMT Seriously though, don't call me bro.[/quote]

Is "brah" ok? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310740.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310754.page GMT
Well I've kinda got my hands full with the Western Hemisphere at the moment. But don't worry, I'll get around to you guys when I'm done.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310761.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310768.page GMT
Ok, The Americas then, I've got my hands full with The Americas. I'll cross the pond when they're fixed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310775.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310775.page GMT lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/310777.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311000.page GMT
Don't hide it. For the simple fact is, you hide something, the next natural thought is "what else is he hiding?"

Also, if they don't accept that you have a hobby, forget them.

I get the occasional odd look, or critical comment when I tell people what I do for my hobbies, but bugger it, I don't seek their approval.

Yes, I play tabletop wargames. I also listen to goth music, industrial, futurepop, along with a whole bunch of other things. I occasionally go to Goth clubs.. I've got one tattoo, and will probably be getting another one (an inquisitorial rosette I think). I play bloodthirsty chars on MMOs. I'll probably be getting into a local game of Dark Heresy.

If people don't like their priest doing all of this stuff, they can go somewhere else

Edited to fix some grammar.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311135.page GMT [/quote]
LOL.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311258.page GMT
I mention my hobbies early on, and I did so with my current gf. She asked what I did, and I simply said "I paint and play with wargames miniatures." I pointed out that I enjoyed a creative outlet after a long day of law school, and that I'd rather go to a tournament then spend all day at a bar. I've taken her to meet the people, and she's realized that most of them are normal guys, and while she thinks it's odd, she's cool with it.

Remember the scene in Knocked up when the woman found out her husband snuck out to go to a fantasy baseball draft? that's what you want to avoid. She wasn't wierded out by fantasy sports (a geeky activity if I've ever seen one), but she was freaked out by the lying.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311361.page GMT
@ Salad fingers... What rubgy postion do you play? I play or used to for 3 years for my college (Read University for UK). I was lock till they got some tall guys in then i played flanker.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311371.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311371.page GMT
I thought i was screwed.

"That's a lil' geeky, but whatever! Can I paint one?"

*cue angelic background music

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal. Especially if you're a good painter

She, on the other hand, paints like an epileptic monkey on crack. Seriously, who paints chainswords pink?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311384.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311411.page GMT "Dude," they are [i][b]NOT[/b][/i] dolls. "Dolls" have movable joints. Articulation. "Dolls" generally come with changable wardrobes and goofy gimmicks like peeing their diapers. Think, "Barbie." Little girls played with "dolls." when we were little boys, we played with "action figures," but they were really "dolls."
We play 40k (and other minis games) with toy (or model) soldiers and model tanks. Tamyia does not sell 1/35 scale PzKpfw V "doll" kits. Revell does not sell 1/72 British 8th Army "dolls." They are model kits. Plastic soldiers, etc. Not "dolls."
Always bugs the sh*t out of me when people call miniatures "dolls."



To the OP, I think you're being retarded about this. First of all, you act all ashamed about playing 40k, like playing around other people (that aren't your close friends) is beneath you. That 30 year old men shouting "Waaaghhh" are pariahs to be mocked and pitied and kept in the closet. You irrationally think that being spotted playing 40k would label you as "uncool" or a "geek?" Why don't you worry that being so over-sensitive about this issue might make you look like a sissy-man?
I'm just sayin...


What makes you more of a geek, more pathetic? The fact that you were seen playing 40k at a game store, or that you came online to ask a bunch of anonymous people that, by [i]your[/i] definition are geeks, for advice about women?
I'm just sayin...




For the record, when I started buying and painting miniatures, I was a "cool dude" too. I played guitar and sang in a punk/ska bar band as my only source of legal income for several years. We played multiple shows every week and traveled for shows in many different states. I am pierced (6g septum ring) and had multiple eyebrow piercings and, yes, a Prince Albert (look it up on Wikipedia). This was in the early-mid 90's when telling a girl you were in a band magically made their pants drop. I partied my ass off, skated, got laid a bunch and always had a ton of painted WHFB on a shelf in a room off of the kitchen in my apartment. I had three Armorcast Eldar titans sitting on my 18" Peavy P.A. speakers that I used for my stereo system and on my Peavy half-stack (when it wasn't at the practice room or a bar).
Never once did I get anyone, women included, that said, "You geek." In fact, I always got the astonished, "You painted these all by yourself?" In my experience, chicks dig art. Whether it's a painting, photogrgaph, written, musical, or yes, even nicely painted miniatures.



Ghidorah]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311997.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/311997.page GMT lol. you should have a 00 septum ring!lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312000.page GMT de girl's have boy friends that play warhammer.
stragest thing is my girl friend is on a maakup forum( see is a bit of a maakup adict like I em a warhammer adict ) and most boy friends of dose girls seem to pla warhammer.
( my girlfriend like's it when I em paint cos it make's me calm )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312004.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312004.page GMT
I thought i was screwed.

"That's a lil' geeky, but whatever! Can I paint one?"

*cue angelic background music

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal. Especially if you're a good painter

She, on the other hand, paints like an epileptic monkey on crack. Seriously, who paints chainswords pink?[/quote]

my girl friend wode paint the armour and the chain sword pink ( fluo pink )
but than again she only like's 2 moddels old demonts,Sisters Repentia and Death-cult Assassins
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312005.page GMT lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312006.page GMT its only the esetic she like's.
she like's the pink slanesh army in one of my white dwarfs for the colors but she dosent like the look of power armour
O I most say I have to mutsh stuf to hide.
I have de reks from games workshop.
but than again my girlfriend gave me the limited edition 40K art book for newyear so she is oke whit me and my geek friends

( and bdw I have the reputation of bing cool and a bit mean on a profile forum I em even in a sory of form obout style ) I have a fut tattoo's and persings a mowhwak and some more extreem stuf ( one geek one I have jessica rabit on my leg )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312008.page GMT lol.[/quote]
I plead the 5th.

[quote=skavenfreak]you should have a 00 septum ring!lol[/quote]
I'm workin' on it. Slowly. I started at a 14g and I can move up to a 4g now. Of course, it's been about 14 years. I [i]should[/i] be a 00 by now...
/slacker



Ghidorah]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312048.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312092.page GMT
I've been with my wife for 20 years. We RP together, we've LARPed together. Our interests share a fair degree of overlap. She's not 40K'd yet, but has recently expressed an interest in painting some of my mini's.

I find that, as long as we both respect each other's personal space and 'me time' (and I keep my stuff stowed neatly away), there's room for all shapes and sizes of (perceived) weirdness in our relationship.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312108.page GMT Ahhh i remember it sooo well, its was grade five and i was ten, mum said "what would you like for your birthday today Andrew?" and I replied, "i saw some things in the toy shop today called warhammers 4000000" to which mum replied " ok i'll get you it".

the next day i took my newly painted minis to school and every was amazed by how cool they were, and in about three weeks five had our own armies and we were playing games every lunch time.

three years past and every thing was grand, untill i started high school(Dun Dun Duuuuuunnnnnnn). i knew no one so i did what i did at my last school and started bringing figs to school and showing them off. and for a while people were like meh there alright, but after a while it turned into insults, so to save face i said i gave it up but kept buying white dwarf every month and occasionaly going to gw stores to purchase the occasional fig and paint. then after a while i heard of groups of kids from school whod go into the GW store and cause carnage(such as knock over figs during games, breaking stuff ect ect) and so i stopped going there too. in the end when i finished school (and found Dakka) i was inspired to restart the hobby even though i still get raised eye brows from most people.

the moral of this story is don't give a crap what people think, they're dicks,

LL]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312168.page GMT 40k by giving me a couple of his old eldar models to paint. I was so proud of the paint jobs that a couple of days later a brought them to school with me to show a friend. I had them wrapped up in a paper towel and in zip lock bag. A teacher saw me showing them to a friend behind one of the buildings and she thought I was dealing drugs. Cleared it up rather quickly (more to her relief than mine funny enough) but it was an amusing situation.

So just remember, the first one’s free.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/312914.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313025.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313025.page GMT OP she probably already nows that you have at least some geeklike tendencies.

Are you just afraid that 40k can put you into the "dark nerd" catagory?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313212.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313212.page GMT 40k by giving me a couple of his old eldar models to paint. I was so proud of the paint jobs that a couple of days later a brought them to school with me to show a friend. I had them wrapped up in a paper towel and in zip lock bag. A teacher saw me showing them to a friend behind one of the buildings and she thought I was dealing drugs. Cleared it up rather quickly (more to her relief than mine funny enough) but it was an amusing situation.

So just remember, the first one’s free.
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You know that the powdery stuff from the molds is really crack, right? That's why we keep buying models that we don't need. At least that's my excuse.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313708.page GMT
the moral of this story is don't give a crap what people think, they're dicks,

LL[/quote]

Words to live by, my friend, words to live by.

But seriously, going into stores and breaking stuff and knocking over minis?! Little punks are lucky they never tried something like that in any of the stores my friends frequent, cause they'd have left that store with a goodly amount of stab wounds. My friends are... violent. And fiercely protective of their work.

I know from experience...

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313774.page GMT My fragile image could of been shattered but luckly she had a little brother who was a geek himself so she looked passed it.
We have been together for 5 years now]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/313823.page GMT
Wouldn't trade her for the world.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314168.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314255.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314255.page GMT
So what are mold lines made out of?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314318.page GMT
Mold lines are the diabolic offspring of the 3 beasts of hell.

1) Satan himself
2) Rogue Nose goblins that chew away at the seams in the molds and attempt to push them out of align
and
3) Dumb F***s who can't create a decent mold.

Hope that clears it up for you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/314414.page GMT
The funny thing is a friend of mine recently told me that he has the opposite problem of convincing girls that he's just a good-natured nerd. He has a bit of a reputation of being a player. The other kind.

[quote=skavenfreak]This is for stonefox, I recently got a badass cocker and am planning on putting on a good stiffi. lol[/quote]
Excellent. Make sure that when you pump it, globs of sticky, translucent fluid come flying out. You wanna hit the money.

[quote]don't worry kilkrazy, stonefox just wanted to type butt, snap, shoulder, wink and nudge.. his erotic strings hadn't been played today and he needed to vent.. lol[/quote]
You're just jealous that I don't include you in the fun. (wink)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/315370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212972/315370.page GMT
"It's better than wasting your time in church..."

...then gave him a portion of my speil why religion is retarded and a crutch for the weak willed (even though I'm on the fence anyway about 'god:yay or nay', I've got my gun loaded for annoying christians.)

Needless to say this staunch religioso was sufficiantly pissed off and speachless from the verbal assault. Mission accomplished.

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