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Armament: Nothing. Or is the 'gunner' Scout firing a Storm Bolter?

Transport: What? Maybe 5 Scouts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/309984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/309984.page GMT
Armament: Nothing. Or is the 'gunner' Scout firing a Storm Bolter?

Transport: What? Maybe 5 Scouts?[/quote]

5 scouts is what was rumored. I am surprised at the weapons tho.
But it will keep the cost reasonable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/309987.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/309987.page GMT
Maybe it will be possible to purchase a squadron of two to transport 10 scouts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310037.page GMT
Scouts infiltrate. They need a transport?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310092.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310093.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310093.page GMT
Scouts infiltrate. They need a transport?[/quote]

24" move, folks. That could be very useful for tracking down dug-in heavy weapon squads that you can't get close to fast enough otherwise.
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Scouts infiltrate. They need a transport?[/quote]

24" move, folks. That could be very useful for tracking down dug-in heavy weapon squads that you can't get close to fast enough otherwise.
[/quote]

After moving 24" and firing no weapons and not being able to disembark, what will the Scouts mounted in the transport then do?

Still not seeing the point of this thing, especially as has been noted, Scouts infiltrate and infiltrate is that much better in 5th.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310131.page GMT
BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310181.page GMT WS and BS 3, they can pump out 10 shots, 5 hits, 3 wounds 1.5 failed armored saves on those pesky Heavy Weapons teams!
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I guess GW really doesn't have anything else to put into plastic for the space marines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310207.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310214.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310215.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310217.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310217.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310222.page GMT LOL! This is a very old concept.

It'd be neat if it saw the light of day finally.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310234.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310234.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310307.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310309.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310309.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310313.page GMT
I like the idea. Not sure how it will play out though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310319.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310319.page GMT When I heard the rumours about this I had in mind something that was more Black Hawk than Little Bird!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310347.page GMT
I ask because, out of everything, I'd get this before I got any of the new stuff. It's such a cool idea.

BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310361.page GMT
"So here we go. The transport Land Speeder is in the new codex but it will not be released with it. A time frame of "within about 6 months of the codex" was given. Unfortunately no pictures of it were shown but I can confirm it is for transporting a unit of 5 scouts ONLY (no marines allowed)." - Bauhaus, warseer

He also mentioned that they were told that Jes Goodwin finished the new DE Raider about 9 months ago.

This came from a GW Presentation Bauhaus attended.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310487.page GMT CCW/bolt pistol scouts and attack that heavy weapon squad or something. Without entanglement it should be possible at least, if not ideal.

Alternately, if you give your scouts bolters and a heavy bolter, they can hang back and shoot from cover, then embark and zip over to an objective last turn.

I am sure neither idea is optimal, but it might be a fun possibility. Particularly if you are playing on a 6'x10' table, like I hope to be soon ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310517.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310517.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310518.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310518.page GMT
- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310519.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310519.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310521.page GMT
*sigh*

So, like Orks, Marines are getting a 'Second Wave' thing. I knew the good times of GW releasing everything for a Codex when it came out couldn't last.

BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310555.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310555.page GMT CC Scouts could assault from it.. so there's an option.

Also, does anybody familiar with the new SM rumors know if scouts are getting the Scout USR? If so, they can still Flank, but since the Scout USR also applies to the dedicated transport, they could perform their flanking movement aboard their transport. 24" move from the side... or a 12" move and then assault. That would be so handy that it'll probably not happen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310573.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310573.page GMT 40k can do right now that is cool and unique).

I could be critical here but I dig flying machines way to much.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310582.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310709.page GMT GW releasing everything for a Codex when it came out couldn't last.[/quote]

Considering that concept just encouraged them to cut more specialised units out of some books because there wouldn't be models available for a while, if ever, I'm glad if it fades away.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310711.page GMT
Well it already has spoilers, but you could chrome the engine intakes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310716.page GMT
It does get a little better!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310733.page GMT
My thoughts exactly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310747.page GMT 40k battlefield accesory spruesin between works quite nicely from the aerial guard army or the orignal one i saw with the the blood angels army in about 1999 or somthign...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310749.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310749.page GMT
So, like Orks, Marines are getting a 'Second Wave' thing. I knew the good times of GW releasing everything for a Codex when it came out couldn't last.

BYE[/quote]

People griped that it sucked that you only got new stuff when your codex came out so they are spreading it a bit more. Thanks whiny internet people for making me wait for my new crap.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310838.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310887.page GMT GW wasn't so fucking secretive about these things. There's no need to be!!!!

BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310894.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310894.page GMT
If they'd be Troops and there Transports.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310907.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310907.page GMT
BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310947.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310947.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310951.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310951.page GMT Well, we've seen Zagstruck (or whatever that "Vulcha" guy with the Village People hat was called).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310954.page GMT
Assuming the rule for Armor 4+ or worse making this transport open-topped hasn't changed (can anyone check that?), and the Scout applies to the transport too (also needs confirmation), these little suckers could be carrying in 18" total assaults (move 12 assault 6) from the side of the board. That's nice.

Anyone who can confirm or disprove those two points would be a very helpful fellow obsessive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310969.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310969.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310989.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/310989.page GMT

but I don't care I finally can validate buying 2 speeders and chopping them into bits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311002.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311002.page GMT They have the scout captain, the scouts, scout snipers (so so cool, i love 'em), and the land speeder transports.

One problem though, where the heck do the scouts sit??? In the engine bay, on the sides, or back seats???

Umm... just realised that the scout speeder has a back set of seats, and is considerably bigger than the normal land speeders.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311202.page GMT They have the scout captain, the scouts, scout snipers (so so cool, i love 'em), and the land speeder transports.
[/quote]
Except aren't scouts now going Elites, to match C:BA & CA ...

- Salvage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311212.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311212.page GMT
"It sucked that we only got new stuff when a new Codex shipped. Now we still only get the new stuff when a Codex ships, but we have to wait a few months for half of it! Yay!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311218.page GMT They have the scout captain, the scouts, scout snipers (so so cool, i love 'em), and the land speeder transports.
[/quote]
Except aren't scouts now going Elites, to match C:BA & CA ...

- Salvage[/quote]

Not if you buy the new $15 special character they don't!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311221.page GMT
Otherwise that special character is in the bag straight away!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311231.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311231.page GMT BS. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311254.page GMT
I pretty sure the Scouts as elites has been debunked.

Not sure if the DA and BA codices will be "patched" to reflect this too.

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Scouts infiltrate. They need a transport?[/quote]

If kept in reserve, the infiltrate rule means that they can use their transport to come in on the side of the board, possibly jumping out and assaulting. It's not a bad option]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311338.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311338.page GMT
I pretty sure the Scouts as elites has been debunked.

Not sure if the DA and BA codices will be "patched" to reflect this too.

[/quote]

Won't happen for BA and DA. original 3rd ed codices for BA had the scouts limited as well, and the books are printed.
GW has said they won't make wholesale changes to published books]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311340.page GMT DA and BA when the 5th edition 'patches' are released.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311365.page GMT BT arn't getting one. looks like I'll be switching between codex's again.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311436.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311436.page GMT Well, we've seen Zagstruck (or whatever that "Vulcha" guy with the Village People hat was called).[/quote]


New Nobs as well I'd think. The WIP in the picture is not one of the Black Reach ones.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311443.page GMT
And yeah, that ain't a StarterBox Nob either. Very nice.

BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311497.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/311635.page GMT TO BE INSIDE THAT STARTER BOX SET.

5 TERMIES AGAINST 20 ORKS... ODD

5 TERMIES AND 10 MARINES AGAINST 40 ORKS... TOO EXPENSIVE

WHY WONT THEY TELL US???

FLIPPING GW ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324786.page GMT
commander
5 termies
tac squad
dreadnought

warboss
5 nobs
20 boys
3 deffkoptas

ps: stop screaming in all your posts!
=Þ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324789.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324789.page GMT TO BE INSIDE THAT STARTER BOX SET.

5 TERMIES AGAINST 20 ORKS... ODD

5 TERMIES AND 10 MARINES AGAINST 40 ORKS... TOO EXPENSIVE

WHY WONT THEY TELL US???

FLIPPING GW [/quote]

OMFG NOW WAY SRSLYAWESOMELOLOL!!!111ONE!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324817.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324900.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/212984/324900.page GMT