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				<description><![CDATA[ I recently bought the new washes set that citadel put out.  This the the best package that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> has ever done.  The washes gave me that "milked" look that I had tried for years now to perfect but have been unable to.  With the stroke of a brush the washes make the models look simply amazing.  I cannot believe that they are only 20 bux.  I would HIGHLY recommend this product to anyone that wants amazing looking models with minimal effort.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm guessing that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HW</span> is really supposed to be a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>?<br /> <br /> Either way, thanks for the head's up.<br /> <br /> Sounds like I'll be picking some up soon too!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i've been painting now for 20 years and i agree on how good these are.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:02:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I usually have nothing nice to say about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s hobby supplies, but I am pretty into the new washes as well.  I have been using them for glazing, and am very happy with how easy they are to control.  I recommend them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:53:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Do they still give you a nice deeper/richer color for your models like the old inks?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:25:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was never much of a fan of the old inks. I barely used em. I started making my own washes with regular paint + water + acrylic matte medium. I just picked up the wash set today though.. gonna try it out on my plague marines soon as I get my last 2 chosen done.. They had some demo figs on display at the store though, just primed white with the different colored washes on em, looked real good.<br /> <br /> I think they're great, now even an new/unskilled painter can really add a lot more depth to their models instead of just doing plain ole solid colors. And for the better painters out there they'll help ya get your stuff done a lot quicker with the same results you might have had for doing it all yourself with blending and layering and stuff.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:58:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I never really liked the old inks.  SOmtimes they just looked like garbage.  I always heard most real painter would mix thier own stuff anyways.  These however, are incredible.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:20:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm really looking forward to picking up a few this week.  I've heard nothing but good things.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:58:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:BEST 20$ i EVER SPENT: The New Washes!!!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I wrote up a review of the Citadel washes with 4 test figures:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/citadelwashes.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/citadelwashes.php</a><br /> <br /> Here are some comparison pics:<br /> <br /> Plain Basecoat (baseline)<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_01.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_01.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> Basecoat washed with the Citadel washes<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_03.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_03.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> Citadel washes over white primer<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_04.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_04.jpg[/img]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:17:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Geesh, after all the good things I've heard about this set, I might end up picking it up too.<br /> <br /> I don't think I've heard anyone complain about them either.  I just picked up a couple of the Foundation paints, one of the blues and one of the grays.  I haven't used them yet, but I'm looking forward to giving them a spin.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:18:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Iffy, is that just one coat of wash over the white?  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:15:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ More or less one coat.  It's pretty translucent, so it won't cover, but in grooves, like on tanks, it does just fine]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:31:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ifurita]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Would multiple coats give you a more solid color?  I'm thinking they would make awesome colors to build up with from a white base coat using multiple (see: A LOT) selective glazes to help create a solid color with highlights built in.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:40:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=grey_death]Would multiple coats give you a more solid color?  I'm thinking they would make awesome colors to build up with from a white base coat using multiple (see: A LOT) selective glazes to help create a solid color with highlights built in.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Yes it does, I've found that wash-drybrush-wash works quite well, so does wash-wash(black)-drybrush-wash for a darker look in the corners.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:BEST 20$ i EVER SPENT: The New Washes!!!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is an example of the drybrush technique using about 4-5 of the washes on various parts.  Baal Red, Asurmen Blue, Badab Black, Leviathan Purple, and Thraka Green.<br /> <br /> [img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/4389.page[/img]<br /> <br /> [img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/4390.page[/img]<br /> <br /> [img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/4388.page[/img]<br /> <br /> [img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/4391.page[/img]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:38:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Great results Verm.  This stuff looks promising.  I'll definitely have to give them a go on my next [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/213512.page]Dakka Painting Challenge[/url] model.  &gt;.&gt;<br /> <br /> See what I did there?  ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:BEST 20$ i EVER SPENT: The New Washes!!!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How do the new washes compare with the standard wash made out of the Vallejo glazes mixed with an acrylic flow enhancer?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:04:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I finally got to try my set out a bit today, and am very happy with them so far.  I can't wait to get some more time to play around with them on my days off.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice.  I was tempted by these, but wanted to see some actual results.  It looks like these have really nice flow properties.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:44:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ JohnHwangDD]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I picked up a set last week and I really love them. They are getting lots of use on my painting table.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:59:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Larkin Vain]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I, too, have been pleased. They're not miracle paints, but they do some things really well, as you can see by the Bretonnian example figs up there. The skin wash on top of white primer makes for a decent quick skintone, too. Plus they don't dry glossy, which helps.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, sounds great. They might just be the thing I need for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> great Unclean one.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Anung Un Rama]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm going to apply wash to 2 more test figures, one primed in grey and one primed in tan.  Will post those when done]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Ifurita]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I so agree.  If you are not a great painter, or have tried and gotten frustrated in the past, you owe it to yourself to try out the new foundation paints + washes.  It's EZ mode.  <br /> <br /> As for a comparison with other "wash" products, I have used Wonder Wash, and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes are a bit thicker.  Very rich color.  Get them all, you never know when you'll want the odd colors that don't match your army, and the $20 tag is pretty fair. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Citadel washes over grey primer<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_05.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_05.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> Citadel washes over tan primer (Rustoleum Camo Tan)<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_06.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_06.jpg[/img]]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Ifurita]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How does the purple look on white? could it be a fast and effective way to paint daemonettes to battlefield quality?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Milkshaker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Ifurita]Citadel washes over grey primer<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_05.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_05.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> Citadel washes over tan primer (Rustoleum Camo Tan)<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_front_06.jpg[/img]<br /> [img]http://www.kan.org/michael/mkp/images/wash_back_06.jpg[/img][/quote]<br /> <br /> That is awesome ! I'm gonna buy these washes  <img src="/s/i/a/b3ae9cf68ec71745d6b110374d581299.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Captain Engelhardt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I for one am a little disappointed in the new washes.<br /> <br /> I used the old inks for giving depth to metals and the new washes are no good or require more coats for this purpose. They are too thin for this kind of usage.<br /> <br /> So they are not going to replace the inks in my use, but complement them.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Metsuri]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've picked up the washes too.  They are great, although a little thick for my methods.  I watered them down a bit by filling the bottle up partially with water.  Not too much, but a bit.  Helped to thin them for more subtle uses.  They are great as a quick result for similar to my Iron Giants army.  I painted up some guys for that and used the washes to finish off.  It worked out great and it was a lot quicker to get the same results.  But I took some shortcuts...<br /> <br /> I found that if you do standard washing and juices first to get the grimy/dirty/rusty look, then use the citadel washes to finish it they work awesome.<br /> <br /> I would recommend the washes as a finishing move for you painters out there who are lazy ............ like me .......<br /> <br /> You don't think I'm lazy?  the latest Iron Giants I painted I mixed up hospital specimen jars with cheapass paint, water and detergent and then dipped the models in there instead of brushing it on.  After about 10 goes each with that, I then did the rest of the work and then finalised the models with the washes.<br /> <br /> Lazy.<br /> <br /> But bloody effective.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ im really good at using the old inks but these washes sound worth a try, thanks for the heads up.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I never got good at the old washes but these look like they are simple to use ill be giving them a shot thanks for posting pics =)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ifurita Thank you for adding the pictures to the post.  I will soon post some of my stuff on here.  I use the first method you had.  I paint the model then use the corresponding wash over them.  Now I see that they even work well over primer.  I am very pleased with the flow properties and they add the perfect touch to my paint jobs.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ifurita Thank you for adding the pictures to the post.  I will soon post some of my stuff on here.  I use the first method you had.  I paint the model then use the corresponding wash over them.  Now I see that they even work well over primer.  I am very pleased with the flow properties and they add the perfect touch to my paint jobs.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Great pics.  <br /> <br /> The washes have a very good consistency.  I am surprised at how much I use the Devlan Mud (leather and bronze) and Ogryn Flesh.  The time saved by not needing to thin inks or mix your own wash is well worth the $20 box and/or $3 apiece.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Take a look at my article on Paynes Grey too<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The%20Secret%20Ingredient%3A%20Paynes%20Grey%20%28by%20Iffy%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The%20Secret%20Ingredient%3A%20Paynes%20Grey%20%28by%20Iffy%29</a><br /> <br /> Also very good as a wash over a number of different colors]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:22:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have only used the black, but have been impressed so far. It even looks good over white.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On my cadians I use the Sepia for the fatigues, the Tharak green on the armor and the ogryn flesh on the skin.  THe detail that comes out in the faces is just AMAZING.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I abesolutely love the washes as far as painting goes. Easy to use, great results, good quality. I have found a two large problems with them. First, since they are thinner, it is much harder to notice in your peripheral vision if your brush has  paint on it. The second problem, steming from the first, is that they taste terrible, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>.  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:41:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I´ve been using these washes for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(312);'>DkoK</span> models, and they´re coming out great too. <br /> <br /> I really like that they´re coming out non glossy, since that allows me to do easy shading of dark grey. <br /> <br /> Also, in general i´ve been happy with their consistency.<br /> <br /> Not too runny, just enough.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:27:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can't agree more, the new washes are simply excellent at actually providing shading.  <br /> <br /> I was never a fan of the old inks/washes, because of the tide marks they would leave when used on a large area, and the shine they left on the finish. The new washes are much better for shading, and they have a nice consistency which is easy to get to stay where you want it. <br /> <br /> I do like my old brown ink, however, and should probably stock up on it before it goes away.  The old inks are definitely more concentrated, but I see this as a good think, as the new washes are good for layering effects.  <br /> <br /> The best thing about the new washes is definitely the matte finish.  Well done, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:47:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ oh, i´m saving my chestnut and flesh wash, that stuff is still good for some stuff <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:48:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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