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I'm trying a different approach this time as I think the titan will be too top heavy if I make it all from plastic and resin. I'll begin with a basic hull shape as thats what I'm most sure of as far as scale. I've put about a week of evenings into this so far and I'm about to start on the head.

I'm using foam filled poster board 5mm and 13mm thick which works very well and will give me the upper body lightness I'll be needing for stability. The body will be covered with sheet styrene after I get all the proportions right.

I'm thinking 3/4" pine square stock for the leg segments and dowels for the round joints but that may be to massive when covered with styrene.

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MOst scratchbuilds I've seen so far are either cardboard or plasticard, and don't seem too top-heavy. Guess the foot design must be pretty decent.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/511979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/511979.page GMT [/quote]

*Cough*

To scale Lucius Pattern Warhound Plans
4th post down.

[url]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/3840/99366.page[/url]

*Cough*]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/512482.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/512482.page GMT [/quote]

*Cough*

To scale Lucius Pattern Warhound Plans
4th post down.

[url]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/3840/99366.page[/url]

*Cough*[/quote]

Thanks, I really appreciate the input. I had those plans already and based on my calculations they are approximately 1/4 oversized when it comes to the length and cross section of the legs. The 3/4 view DWG 119 at the end when roughly modeled in wood gave me an overall height of 10.5 inches which is FW's claim for the height with the legs fully extended. I can always bulk up the segments with plastic card sheets if need be and increase the length likewise if the legs look too small. unless someone can give me measurements off of the original model.

My calculations based on the FW assembly instructions give me give me slightly over 3/4 inch square leg segments in cross section with each leg piece approx. 3 inches long. Anyhow below is the work of the previous day and I am rather pleased at the outcome if the scale is correct.

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I've just completed the leg joints (of course everything is rough because I'm not sure with the scale.) but the leg joints are fully movable so when the model is assembled I can pose it as I want. I'm hoping to leave it posable so that was my main concern with weight. The pistons and hydraulic cylinders will be the fly in the ointment as they will have to extend and contract as the legs are adjusted. This may not be practical but hey why not give it a go. Otherwise I'll just pose it as I want, glue it in position and then add the hyd. cylinder's etc.

I'm using white styrene 1/2 inch tubing for the joints and naturally the joints are in excess of 5/8 inch diameter so I have to build them up with 3 layers of 1/2 inch tubing and filling in the gaps as 1/2 inch styrene is the largest diameter available to me. Fortunately the 7/16 inch tubing fits into the 1/2inch nice and snug so it makes an ideal axle for the joint. The grey assembly pegs sticking out of the joints are bits of GW model sprue and careful aligning and paring down of these pegs give a nice tight fit to the leg components so the adjustment has significant strength when moved.

Onward and upward,

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The legs where they are square in cross section will be getting a covering of thin sheet styrene the thickness depending on how the three segments look when assembled. This is in addition to the leg armor. (Thanks for the input Capt.Gordino)

The cylinderical portion of the ankle section appears to be right but I can always add another layer to thicken them up.

I'm pretty sure I have the cylindrical joints nailed as far as diameter but I just discovered I was mistaken in the length of both the middle (calf) and upper (thigh) length and will have to shorten them, the middle significantly.

This will subtract from the overall height estimate and I sure would like to know if the FW 10.5 inch height spec is based on the legs fully extended as straight as they can be assembled? My model when jury rigged together just makes 10.5" but looks weird as hell with the legs straight.LOL

I'm going to pick up about an eighth of an inch when the feet are assembled and another eighth when I adjust the height of the waist component.

I really appreciate the input as I am just guessing at th dimensions right now. What I really need is a few actual dimensions off of the original. Fortunately, nothing I've done cannot be amended without rebuilding the part but I hope to have the legs completed by Friday.

All input is welcome,

Thanks,

EB

More pictures later today]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/515616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/515616.page GMT FW ones the actual legs are pretty scrawny, they just have big plates on them.[/quote]

Thanks for the input Capt.Gordino,

The legs where they are square in cross section will be getting a covering of thin sheet styrene the thickness depending on how the three segments look when assembled. This will hide the seams of the substructure and flesh out the legs for a more robust look.

This is in addition to the leg armour as you so correctly pointed out.

All comments and criticisms are welcome because my goal is to have an exact replica when finished.

The not at all innovative on this one, Blackadder

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The legs where they are square in cross section will be getting a covering of thin sheet styrene the thickness depending on how the three segments look when assembled. This is in addition to the leg armor. (Thanks for the input Capt.Gordino)

The cylinderical portion of the ankle section appears to be right but I can always add another layer to thicken them up.

I'm pretty sure I have the cylindrical joints nailed as far as diameter but I just discovered I was mistaken in the length of both the middle (calf) and upper (thigh) length and will have to shorten them, the middle significantly.

This will subtract from the overall height estimate and I sure would like to know if the FW 10.5 inch height spec is based on the legs fully extended as straight as they can be assembled? My model when jury rigged together just makes 10.5" but looks weird as hell with the legs straight.LOL

I'm going to pick up about an eighth of an inch when the feet are assembled and another eighth when I adjust the height of the waist component.

I really appreciate the input as I am just guessing at th dimensions right now. What I really need is a few actual dimensions off of the original. Fortunately, nothing I've done cannot be amended without rebuilding the part but I hope to have the legs completed by Friday.

All input is welcome,[/quote]

Well I can't say I wasn't told, 'Chaos_inar' said the legs looked skrawny and d---ed if he wasn't right. I just recalculated all the components and I'm lacking mm's in almost all measurements. This would be so much easier if some kind soul that actually has a Warhound would fain to give me a few vital dimensions. Not that any of the work done so far is completely wasted, it's just a matter of gluing on some more sheet styrene. The joints are scrap as there is no way I can beef them up to the proper dimension. Fortunately PVC tubing comes in the request size. Yes, I'm in the realm where a plumbing supply is my hobby store LOL

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When last I showed it I was apprised the legs were too delicate looking for the body. Absolutely correct and I scrapped 90% of the work I had done on the legs. Fortunately the new dimensions brought me up to the PVC pipe range which made the joints easier to fabricate. I kept the hull and covered it with .05" plastic sheeting. There is a commercial 7 minute epoxy made for plastic and it is wonderful stuff. It even adheres plastic to card stock.

I'll go into greater detail of the construction but first a picture to see if my effort meets your approval.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/626693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/626693.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/626797.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/626797.page GMT ,BUT ! so does the original. Ive only got a couple of Epic scale Warhounds for ref, but I think once you get the armour plating on the lower legs they will look much better.

It looks like you are doing a great job with this, I wish I was as brave as you to start a project like this and had half the skill needed to see it through

keep the pics coming, its looking good so far.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/627083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/627083.page GMT what weapons are you going to arm it with?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/627211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/627211.page GMT ,BUT ! so does the original. Ive only got a couple of Epic scale Warhounds for ref, but I think once you get the armour plating on the lower legs they will look much better.

It looks like you are doing a great job with this, I wish I was as brave as you to start a project like this and had half the skill needed to see it through

keep the pics coming, its looking good so far.[/quote]

Thanks for the candid input.; it looks like that to me as well. Now that I have an assembled set of legs and waist with the hull attached I superimposed my model on a side view of FW legs. The overall scale is correct but the hip cylinders are about a quarter of an inch small in diameter and likewise the ball mounted waist connection. The upper knee joint needs to be repositioned a quarter inch lower in the shank.

[quote=deadly chicken]What weapons are you giong to arm it with?[/quote]

eventually it will have a full complement of weapons but first will be the bolter and lascannons which are the easiest to fabricate. I've already made a plasma cannon for my Titan Hunter

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/210995.page#503153

so other than the tedium of making another it is the best looking weapon and to round out the ensemble the flame thrower which has a low priorty on my list. They will of course be quick change mounted and movable.

Thanks for the replies,

Blackadder

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The bottom view show the arms bays are still not covered with plastic card. You may also note that the right and left carapaces do not taper to the front as in the original FW Lucius Warhound. That was a choice I purposely made; I didn't like how it looked the other way.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/628693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/628693.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/628715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/628715.page GMT FW

Whew,

E. Blackadder

Constructive critiques and comments would be greatly appreciated,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/629652.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/629652.page GMT do you have any templates or a list of materials so I can make one 2.
I doubt it will be anywhere near as good as that 1 though]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/629753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/629753.page GMT do you have any templates or a list of materials so I can make one 2.
I doubt it will be anywhere near as good as that 1 though[/quote]

I can give you a list of material and plan to give a step by step construction in future posts but I haven't so much as a single measurement or template to offer. everything I have done so far is by trial and error and redoing over and over until it looks right (to me). I have asked numerous times for measurements on many forums and received none although M. Silva was gracious enough to offer them in a PM, I missed that when I was taking a break from building.

I've made a lot of mistakes that I worked out so anyone attemption to duplicate this model won't have to repeat and for some foolish reason I spent a lot of time making the model fully posable which is probably a waste as once the pistons and cylinders are installed the range of motion will be severely limited even with '[b]Cadium[/b]'s' thoughtful input.

The real fun part is ahead in the detailing of this model; the part I enjoy the most. All the basic structure assembly is behind me so the model as you see it is about as good as it going to be IMHO unless someone can point out some grievious flaw.

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I'll go into how I mounted the head and neck to allow full movement which could be accomplished on a FW model if anyone is interested

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Hope it balances well. It looks great!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/629895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/629895.page GMT
Hope it balances well. It looks great![/quote]

I've already made plans to drill half inch holes in the screen generator housings (The bottom of course) and fill them with half inch lead rods as needed after the weapons and details are added. I also am going to move the pivot shaft forward a quarter inch, at the moment it is only tacked in with epoxy. The entire hull, carapace, and head cores are made of foam filled poster board covered with .5mm sheet styrene and only weighs a couple of '[b]ounces[/b]' not pounds as the FW resin model must weigh.

Thanks for the input,

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What a fantastic model!!!

I have more images if anyone else doesn't feel inadequate enough.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635071.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635071.page GMT
What a fantastic model!!!

I have more images if anyone else doesn't feel inadequate enough.

Blackadder[/quote]


Wow, what's the source URL for that?

/I used to think I was good at a few things, then I found the internet.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635083.page GMT
I call this one "The last thing Blackadder saw before being squashed like a bug. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635108.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635142.page GMT
It's real!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635244.page GMT
It's real![/quote]

Oh it's real alright and I have some building photos to prove it. I've read the rules here several times and see nothing about posting links to another site but rather than break any rules, I'll just feed the images.

I took the liberty to increase the size of the images for better viewing. The construction images are only 300X250.

Heres a few building shots. All that are posted on the site thus far:]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635264.page GMT 40k scale. I applaud your skills sir!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635296.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635296.page GMT ft behemoth..... just an observation. :-)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635372.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635372.page GMT
What a fantastic model!!!

I have more images if anyone else doesn't feel inadequate enough.

Blackadder[/quote]

HAHAHA!!! i am so happy to see that model on the net... it was made by someone at my local games workshop battle bunker and is now on display there... it was one of the most fun things ive ever gotten to fite!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635373.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635416.page GMT This has detailed WIP parts:

<a href='http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/24780-warlord.html'><img src='http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/27/24780-warlord.jpg' ></a>]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635419.page GMT Apoc Knight project..... feel everso slightly humbled!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635424.page GMT

At any rate I'm awestruck by the sheer majesty of the thing.

After I get done with my piddlin' Warhound, I know what my next project will be.

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I'm shocked. It does not look real even tough it is. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635960.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/635960.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636012.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636012.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636026.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636026.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636146.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636146.page GMT
excellent work so far buddy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636171.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636171.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636190.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636190.page GMT
I hope someone designs a Lucius pattern Imperator Titan like that someday...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636210.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636210.page GMT BoLS and nearly cried, incredible work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636238.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636338.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636338.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636406.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/636412.page GMT ft behemoth..... just an observation. :-)[/quote]

Lets see, a Warhound is approximately 50 feet tall I suppose that is standing still with the legs at a neutral bent angle. and the model is 10.5 inches. Now the modeler of the Warlord Titan David Smith states his model is 28 inches tall which calculates into 133.33 feet tall life size. granted not an item for a book shelf but an addition to the house shouldn't be necessary unless you live in a trailer park.

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mine is the comparatively diminutive Lucius Warhound which at the moment is enough on my plate for the forseeable future although my son is already checking out prices on a Epic Warlord for me to scale up. I just was facinated by the beauty of a project extremely well executed and used my thread to bring it to your awareness.

E. Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/638125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/638125.page GMT IA 3 puts the height of a warhound at 14 metres, or 0.75 metres IRL to an inch of model size. So 30 inches would be 40 metres, or about 130 feet.

Not that any of this should be taken as gospel mind you, just another estimate ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/638842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/638842.page GMT 40k format, then how many inches might an imperator be? i know it's somewhat off topic, but it just came to mind]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/640111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/640111.page GMT 40k scale as in epic... i know... i fought it... and it is amazing o_o]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641615.page GMT
Yours is coming along nicely too!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641625.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641633.page GMT

But I'm still plugging away because I still like the look of a Lucius Wolf class hound.

Today I've finally gotten the cockpit window frames and windshield frame installed. I'll install the windows after it's painted. I also have the head swivel mechanism nailed down and I'm fairly sure my head to body proportions are pretty close to correct.

I disassembled the neck to show how I made the swivel. It just plugs into the hull orifice and I probably won't glue it as the fit is quite tight.

I used a discarded paint roller tube for the sleeve and ground down a pvc pipe fitting for the gimbal housing. A 1.250 inch dia. wooden drawer knob is the orbit sphere and the front and back race is 1.0 pvc pipe beveled down for the ball to seat against.

A lot of trouble I know but it bothers me that the FW model can't be posed for different battle situations. Just about everything on my model can be moved and I managed to keep to the scale.

So here are today's images, I hope you enjoy seeing them as much as I do posting them.

E. Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641667.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641667.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641673.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/641673.page GMT
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/644109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/644109.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/645086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/645086.page GMT 40k format, then how many inches might an imperator be? i know it's somewhat off topic, but it just came to mind[/quote]

I'm gonna take a brief moment to plug [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/232903.page]this topic.[/url]

Warhound's looking good, Blackadder! How long would you say you are from completion?

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That's one hell of a titan!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/645882.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/645882.page GMT
I admire your optimism.

[quote=The Dreadnote][quote=Lord Kaesar II]if a warlord can be agreed upon to be ~30 inches in 40k format, then how many inches might an imperator be? i know it's somewhat off topic, but it just came to mind[/quote]

I'm gonna take a brief moment to plug [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/232903.page]this topic.[/url]

Warhound's looking good, Blackadder! How long would you say you are from completion?

[/quote]

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just beginning the fun part (the detail) now that I am satisfied with the overall dimensions. I started installing the radiator??? and the nose cowl and head armor today and hope to post a picture later this evening. There's a tremendous amount of minute detail to make this thing look right and even though I opted for the easiest weapons I'm figuring completion some time in the summer.

Now I have to figure out the summer of which year.

Blackadder

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646252.page GMT [/quote]

I have decided on a paint scheme one that looks like it would belong on a battle field I'm sorry to say given my penchant for drab coloring

Below is how I want it to look when completed.

Lottsa Luck Blackadder.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646263.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646263.page GMT
On mine I may have gone too far the other way with a lot of metal areas, I think a good idea would be to compromise between the two.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/12140-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/9/12140_sm-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.jpg[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646276.page GMT
On mine I may have gone too far the other way with a lot of metal areas, I think a good idea would be to compromise between the two.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/12140-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/9/12140_sm-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]

Well thats just drop dead gorgeous. Too pretty to shoot bullets at. If my son had his way the one I'm building probably would be red as well but as I told him, "You can paint the one you build any color you want or repaint this one when I drop dead. "

Thanks for the images, I can always use more reference material.

The still working in the dark, Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646330.page GMT
On mine I may have gone too far the other way with a lot of metal areas, I think a good idea would be to compromise between the two.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/12140-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/9/12140_sm-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]

Damn me Sir! those are the pictures I've been looking for. Any chance of posting them in that size downloadable???

and a picture of the underside of the head would be a real blessing.

Thanks in anticipation,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646341.page GMT [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/12140-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/9/12140_sm-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]

So when I saw that I immediatly thought "Since when did Optimus Prime start working for the emperor?" anyways back on topic.

Good stuff so far, looks fantastic. Can't wait for the weapon pics to start showing up, any thoughts on how your gonna kit this bad boy out?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646368.page GMT
<a href='http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/13614-Apocalypse%2C%20Forge%20World%2C%20Imperial%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhound.html'><img src='http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/23/13614_md-Apocalypse%2C%20Forge%20World%2C%20Imperial%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhound.JPG' ></a>]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646416.page GMT [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/12140-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/9/12140_sm-Apocalypse%2C%20Games%20Workshop%2C%20Imperium%2C%20Titan%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Warhound.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]

So when I saw that I immediatly thought "Since when did Optimus Prime start working for the emperor?" anyways back on topic.

Good stuff so far, looks fantastic. Can't wait for the weapon pics to start showing up, any thoughts on how your gonna kit this bad boy out?[/quote]

I had the exact same thought about that paint scheme. Good thing his legs aren't blue or the resemblance to Optimus Prime would be too much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646630.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646630.page GMT
The still working in the dark, Blackadder[/quote]
If you look in my sig block, there is a link to a book on how to build one (of the FW, not scratch). You can view the PDF of download it with a free account. I've also uploaded more misc images to my Titan Gallery.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646681.page GMT
The still working in the dark, Blackadder[/quote]
If you look in my sig block, there is a link to a book on how to build one (of the FW, not scratch). You can view the PDF of download it with a free account. I've also uploaded more misc images to my Titan Gallery.[/quote]

I just downloaded the building guide you posted on [b]'Scribd'[/b]. What an invaluable assistance it will provide in my future construction. Thank you very much. I'm sorry to see you never got the toe issue resolved properly I can offer some assistance on refabricating FW mistakes. With a razor saw the toe could be cut down to the proper length and width and with careful cutting the side and bottom detail can be excised and re-attached. I use Met-all 24 hr epoxy when refabricating resin parts. and Locktite 7 minute epoxy for assembling Resin and plastic scratchbuilt models.

I actually had the tail booms on my [b]FW Vulture[/b] two different lengths by over 3/8 inch! and I had to fabricate a cockpit canopy for a 'FW Chaos Viper'. FW has never seen fit to even get back to me for that replacement.

Back to the manual, I see that the waist component I fabricated is a bit too small which I already knew and the orbit and sphere is also approx 1/8 inch diameter too small according to my calculations. It's a pity that in your marvelous manual you never included a 6 inch scale for reference sizes but why would you as the manual is for building a FW product not a ripoff.

There are a few tantalizing partial glimpses of the bottom of the head of the Warhound in your manual.

If someone could post a picture of that I would be very grateful.

Thanks again,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646960.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646960.page GMT
Back to the manual, I see that the waist component I fabricated is a bit too small which I already knew and the orbit and sphere is also approx 1/8 inch diameter too small according to my calculations. It's a pity that in your marvelous manual you never included a 6 inch scale for reference sizes but why would you as the manual is for building a FW product not a ripoff. :[/quote]

Damn me I must be blind, the blue work mat in your manual has crosshatch squares on it. Could you inform me as to the size of those squares? centimeters or inches?

Thanks,

E. B.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646969.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/646969.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/647131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/647131.page GMT FW product not a ripoff. [/quote]
Great point, I will be sure to include that in my Reaver manual.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/647831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/647831.page GMT Damn me I must be blind, the blue work mat in your manual has crosshatch squares on it. Could you inform me as to the size of those squares? centimeters or inches?

Thanks,

E. B.[/quote]
They're 1 inch squares.

And thanks for the comment on the guide, it's actually over 4000 views. Although for some reason the tracker information went from inticating an average of 5 views a day to none! I don't know, whatever. As long as it can help someone. Cheer!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/647832.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/647832.page GMT They're 1 inch squares.

And thanks for the comment on the guide, it's actually over 4000 views. Although for some reason the tracker information went from inticating an average of 5 views a day to none! I don't know, whatever. As long as it can help someone. Cheer![/quote]

My inaccuracy in typing is only exceeded by my poor proofreading ability. 4000 is what I intended.

1 inch squares, then the toes are dead on but the foot base is a tad too small. I also didn't undercut the front of the foot base so adding a bit to the front and rear should remedy both discrepancies. Your manual is already paying dividends. With your permission I'm going to recommend it on all the other sites I visit. Warhammer 40k that is.

Blackadder

Still hoping for that underside view of the Warhound head

E.B.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/648650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/648650.page GMT They're 1 inch squares.

And thanks for the comment on the guide, it's actually over 4000 views. Although for some reason the tracker information went from inticating an average of 5 views a day to none! I don't know, whatever. As long as it can help someone. Cheer![/quote]

My inaccuracy in typing is only exceeded by my poor proofreading ability. 4000 is what I intended.

1 inch squares, then the toes are dead on but the foot base is a tad too small. I also didn't undercut the front of the foot base so adding a bit to the front and rear should remedy both discrepancies. Your manual is already paying dividends. With your permission I'm going to recommend it on all the other sites I visit. Warhammer 40k that is.

Blackadder

Still hoping for that underside view of the Warhound head

E.B.[/quote]
I'll break it out and take some photo's in the morning, any other requests?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/649730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/649730.page GMT
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26086-underside.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/5/26086_sm-underside.JPG[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650347.page GMT
There's a few discrepancies in my version but not enough to change what I have. Right now the head armor is a bit too thin. and the angle of the fore to aft run of the base footprint is not extreme enough but it will have to do as you can see by the posted image of this dates work the armor is in place.

Onward and upward as they say.

Thanks again,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650584.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650584.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650750.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650912.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/650912.page GMT
The tubular section of the shank of the legs are approximately 1/4 inch too long I believe. I'll cut them down (as they are still removable) when I add the detail to the shanks. each round shank tube gets rings of reinforcement an 1/8th inch thick and a sleeve between them that will flesh them out significantly. The ankle piston/cylinders will also add bulk to the overall appearance even with out the armor ankle skirts.

The square blocks of the hip and knees that the joints connect to are 1 inch square in cross section (according to my guesstimations) and superimpose on the images of an actual Warhound almost exactly. I know about the foot pad body being 1/4 inch too short in length and when I detail the feet I'll remedy that.

Thanks for the input I need that to keep me on my toes,

EB

Below is an image demonstrating the way the shanks are attached to the ankle joint block. the X in cross section stem presses into the shank tube rather tightly so the feet will always be removable for repair and modification as necessary. This image also give a good demonstration of how flexible the leg and toe joints are. each leg and the toes are capable of a full range of motion and after I get the model completed and painted I'll address the oversized toe joint cylinders. they're approx 1/16 inch too large in diameter Best guesstimation. I'll make caps to close the holes in the toe joints but I'm thinking of casting them as I need 26 and even I wouldn't be up to making 26 of anything!!!

The really long tube sticking out of the waist fits into the body pivot sleeve and allow the body to rotate 360 degrees on the waist. It's tapered and a close tolerance press fit so again it shouldn't ever need to be glued in place. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651257.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651257.page GMT
Thanks, but if I start compromising on the basic structure it will weigh on my mind until I correct it or I will lose interest in completing the project altogether if it's seriously flawed ( that's happened before on a few of my endeavors). I just put the whole thing on back burner until I work up the ambition to do it right which could be never.

A chilling glimpse into the Blackadder's psyche.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651309.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651309.page GMT IMO the legs are too thin/long/both - looks like a crow.

(And so do the feet, actually - try making them thicker maybe?)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651389.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651389.page GMT
Keep up your awesome progress. I love it!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/651432.page GMT IMO the legs are too thin/long/both - looks like a crow.

(And so do the feet, actually - try making them thicker maybe?)[/quote]

So much for the British penchant for reserved, staid understatement. While I appreciate your candor we'll just have to wait and see if my seat of the pants perceptions are too far off target. As for the feet, as I stated before and were verified by Jabba's work mat dimensions they're very close to perfect. Once the hydraulics, geegaws, and treads are installed they should look thicker.

Whew, I was reading your reply and at first I thought you said, "It looks like a cow!" A 'crow' I can live with.

Blackadder

It's all a matter of perspective, here's a shot of a Warhound where the body looks way too small for the legs and this is a production model]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652578.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652588.page GMT
Keep going, keep going!

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652736.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652740.page GMT
BTW, does anyone know what guns that warlord was equipped with? And is there a picture I could look for that shows what all the titan weapons look like?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/652965.page GMT for the shoulders it has the apocalypse missile launcher, a vortex missile, the duble-barrelled turbo blaster, plasma blastgun, inferno gun, and vulcan megabolter.
however, note that it's not all of them, but just 2 for each area. sorry, but i have no pictures on hand, but there's no definitive answer on the weapons: it's up to you]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/653026.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/653026.page GMT uk/acatalog/QUATERMASTERS_STORE_TITANS_31.html]Forge World[/url] which may be helpful.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/653864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/653864.page GMT IT'LL COME TOGETHER QUITE NICELY, NICE JOB.

Damned warp spawn of a caps lock.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/653986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/653986.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/656987.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/656987.page GMT
Well check this out :-

[url]http://www.shipcamouflage.com/warship_camouflage.htm[/url]

It must be worthwhile or they wouldn't do it.

Personally I think camo / muted titans just look cool. Have two Epic scale Warhounds painted very dark Grey, they look menacing even at that scale.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/661384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/661384.page GMT
Well check this out :-

[url]http://www.shipcamouflage.com/warship_camouflage.htm[/url]

It must be worthwhile or they wouldn't do it.

Personally I think camo / muted titans just look cool. Have two Epic scale Warhounds painted very dark Grey, they look menacing even at that scale.[/quote]

Ya know, I had that conversation with my son because we both were aware of the North Atlantic fleets using camouflage in WWII. The reason for that was to disguise the true size of the ship for fooling reconnaissance; Some ships had a false bow wave ( can't remember which ones). Due to the choppy and cloudy nature of the N. Atlantic, such tactics could be marginally effective before the advent of decent radar. The Bismark and the Price Eugen were frequently confused during the hunt for the Bismark due to the similarity of the camouflage and how it served to break up the profile in stormy weather but probably no one didn't know they were there. In the days before radar directed gunfire anything to confuse the gunnery observer was useful. According to some Naval websites I've been on the camoflage usually had the reverse effect and sometimes enhance the ship instead of obscuring it

Quote:

"The dark grey stern and bow was (sic) to shorten the ships length and thus its size, but later tests and studies on ship camouflage conducted by Kapitänleutnant Dechend in 1942 showed, that dark areas of ships accented these parts of the ship rather than concealing them when viewed from a distance. After these studies bows and sterns were painted light grey or white-grey to shorten the ships length. This worked fine (e.g. Tirpitz, Scharnhorst, etc.)."

In the main it was to break up the silhouette not to hide altogether. After the advent of radar very few fleets resorted to camouflage.

One would expect that 38k from now the radar should be at least as effective as it is today so camouflage would be only so much decoration much as painting your tank red ala Blood Angels.

JOAO,

Blackadder
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/661591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/661591.page GMT FW but were revealed in those provided by Jabba. Anyhow I totally sanded off the front of the nose and started over and right now the newly replaced sheathing is drying. then I need to replace the headlight bezels and the grill strips and we're back to where I was a few days ago but hopefully with a better facade more in keeping with a Wolf class Warhound.

Now if I can only find a straight jacket that allows freedom of motion for my hands I'll be back in business.

Conveying messages via the guard in this ward at Bedlam,

Blackadder

"They called me mad, and I called them mad, and damn them, they outvoted me."

Quote: playwright Nathaniel Lee

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The fan housing on the back.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662213.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662320.page GMT
There is a part from Cities of Death with a nice fan on, I've made a cast of it and used on my knight. (see the team anarchy thread in my signature...)

Azmo]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662974.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662974.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/662979.page GMT
There is a part from Cities of Death with a nice fan on, I've made a cast of it and used on my knight. (see the team anarchy thread in my signature...)

Azmo[/quote]
[img]http://www.postimage.org/gx1DJCbA.jpg[/img]
I don't see the bits you're talking about.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663291.page GMT
There is a part from Cities of Death with a nice fan on, I've made a cast of it and used on my knight. (see the team anarchy thread in my signature...)

Azmo[/quote]
[img]http://www.postimage.org/gx1DJCbA.jpg[/img]
I don't see the bits you're talking about.[/quote]

EDIT: I think I see what you're talking about, the fan on his bum? I like that idea of molding that, good idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663297.page GMT

Azmo]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663344.page GMT COD Manufactorum sprues. I also believe the vindicator's top plate might be a suitable candidate:

[img]http://www.bitzbox.co.uk.php5-2.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/images/space_marine_vindicator_turbines_large.jpg?osCsid=a9q5gthmum4ug91vr75l2u3p03[/img]

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/663541.page GMT COD Manufactorum sprues. I also believe the vindicator's top plate might be a suitable candidate:

[img]http://www.bitzbox.co.uk.php5-2.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/images/space_marine_vindicator_turbines_large.jpg?osCsid=a9q5gthmum4ug91vr75l2u3p03[/img]

[/quote]

Even better fans!!!
Hmmm, think I'll buy those... For some future project, like a better Thunderbolt

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More to come later this evening,

Blackadder
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This looks great for a scratch build. Nice attention to detail.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/710846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/710846.page GMT FW one apart when painted...

Azmo]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711086.page GMT
I'm not too worried about the legs any more; I believe they are within a millimeter of accuracy in diameter and length. my major concern is the hip ball joints which are 3mm too small in diameter although it's hard to see the difference. I've left the waist for last in detailing as I still am looking for a ball 2.57cm in diameter.

Below are the images of the model to date:

once again thanks for the replies and input,

E. Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711423.page GMT FW line up, the underside detail is incredible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711434.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/711572.page GMT FW line up, the underside detail is incredible.[/quote]

More underside detail.

Thanks for the kind words, but:

Purists will note that I departed from the original in the aux servo compartments albeit through necessity as my carapace ceiling is over 1.3cm thick. this is because originally I used 1/2 foam core poster board as it was to be a trial build for practice.

It came out so well I just decided to skin it in sheet styrene and let it go at that forgetting the extra thick ceiling; whoops. Came the time to add the detail and lo and behold there was not enough recess depth for the actual compartment components. Even I drew the line at completely rebuilding the carapace so hence my amended version.

Sue me for laziness but at this point I just want to see the d---ed thing done,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/712311.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/712311.page GMT FW line up, the underside detail is incredible.[/quote]

Jabba I just noticed the above response was from you. I want to express my appreciation for your excellent documentation which was instrumental in the degree of detail I have achieved; I couldn't have done it without your assistance.

Blackadder

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[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/P0002476.jpg[/IMG]

Surprisingly simplicity itself but the most obvious somehow escapes us. I started by gluing with a good grade of thin liquid plastic glue. I use 'Tamiya - Extra Thin Cement :

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/P0002471.jpg[/IMG]

I glued the selected piece to the periphery of the socket using the installed ball as an inner guide. fortunately I used wooden spheres so they are not affected by the glue. I imparted a slight curve to the ring strip initially and started a bit before the desired location so the beginning end could be cut off leaving a curved beginning.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/P0002472.jpg[/IMG]

Applying pressure with your thumb (or favorite finger) serves two purposes; one it is a clamp you can rely on to make the proper curve and two the heat of your hand speed the drying of the glue.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/P0002473.jpg[/IMG]

Following the curve of the ball make gluing every 30 degrees or so being careful to not let the glue flow back to the starting point as it may dissolve the original joint and you'll have to start over.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/P0002474.jpg[/IMG]

working your way around the ball to the starting point, cut off the short straight piece from the beginning and cut the end of the strip to butt with the beginning and voila; a perfect ring of plastic.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/P0002475.jpg[/IMG]

I needed a second ring to thicken the ring on the ankle and hip but the second layer is easier than the first and my only complaint is why didn't I think of this sooner.

The mentally challenged Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715024.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715063.page GMT
It all looks incredibly professional.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715115.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715132.page GMT
I rarely use an exacto for straight cuts; the blades are too hard to control for a long straight cut.

I use my experience cutting drywall (I'm a do it yourselfer) to follow a pencil line with a standard Stanley or General utility knife which has an edge as sharp as an exacto but the size and heft to give great control.

This is the knife I use almost exclusively:

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/725979b.jpg

You can really bear down on the blade and a cut to a depth of 1/8" is not too difficult with practice. I usually make two passes; the first to scribe a groove to follow. Once you've made a cut you can snap the sheet for a clean break. Occasionally I dress the cut with a Craftsman or Nicholson 'flat smooth' file.

I use a #11 blade to carve out rounded detail and cleanup work and the 1/2 inch chisel blade to shave pieces. I also used these blades to scrap scratches from plastic after they have lost their tips.

http://www.pcbsupplies.com/catalog/Xacto%20Knife%2011%20M%20Blade.jpg

Another tool I find indespensible is the deep bladed exacto razor saw although I never use the mitre box which I think is a waste of money.

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/x/xacr1435.jpg

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You don't have permission to access /image/x/xacr1435.jpg on this server.[/quote]

I use my mind box all the time, but then again I'm working on building buildings-a lot of 45 cuts on those.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715345.page GMT
I have to say, I've been following your plog for a bit, but never commented because (cringe, don't kill me) I changed browsers and forgot what my login was for, oh, a couple of months.

This looks more and more splendid every time I come back and look, BAdder.

As to the above quote... can I be your son, too? I promise to bring ya home beer once in a while and cook your steaks just right!

I'm late with it I know, but for engines/fan intakes, one can always try [url]http://www.evilmushroomgames.com/[/url]. My pal Tom's used them before for his Aquila lander and perhaps even his otherwise scratchbuilt Thunderbolt(s).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715695.page GMT
You don't have permission to access /image/x/xacr1435.jpg on this server.[/quote]

I use my mind box all the time, but then again I'm working on building buildings-a lot of 45 cuts on those.[/quote]

The slots in the mitre box are so much wider than the razor saw blade that the cut very likely will be on an angle other than 90 in depth plus you are limited to what, 4.5cm in length of cut. I'd rather trust my eye and hand to make those cuts besides by practicing freehand cutting you will quickly gain the skills to eliminate all but the most basic tools. I have a battery power Dremel, belt sander and a Craftsman hobby scroll saw and very rarely use them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/715864.page GMT
One question though. What size (thickness) sheet styrene did you use to cover the torso's base of foam?
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One question though. What size (thickness) sheet styrene did you use to cover the torso's base of foam?
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Thanks for the accolades.

The thickness depends on whether I intend to sand or cut detail into the surface. I usually use 1.0 mm stock to cover the foam board. In areas where I'm afraid I'll exceed the scale I use 0.5mm or less.

I would be greatly interested in coaching you in your build effort offering what help I can if you need it. Please don't hesitate to ask anything. The big problem is getting accurate measurements of the various critical parts. Studing Jabba's Manual will help you immensely. I wish I had it during the initial building.

Right now I am working on the leg hydraulics and detail. I hope to have some images tomorrow.

EB
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Funny you should mention that as I was just thinking of building two Warlord titans simultaneously after this project. One to sell on Ebay if I could actually bring myself to part with it. The problem is; repetition is my bane. The tedium of making 16 Warhound toes and 20 ankle hydraulic cylinders not to mention the toe hydraulics (Egad I forgot about those! Fah!) 64 teeny tiny bits of telescoping plastic!!! I've got to figure a way around that.

Many times when I was building the toes I just felt like forgetting the whole thing.

If I had the patience for repetition I would have taken up knitting,

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The cylinder base hinge points I just took a guess at and fortunately I guessed correctly. The cyl. range of motion is minimal e.g. on the order of 0.5mm to 1.0mm. The piston base has a larger range of motion; approximately 2.0mm to 3.0mm as the joint is flexed. All in all the pistons have a travel of about 0.5cm which is sufficient for most poses of the leg as any further extention begins to look rather silly. I consider these cylinders the hardest to make due to the enclosed nature of the housings so the hip cylinders will be a cinch relatively speaking.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/732463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/732463.page GMT My cutting about the same class of that of a highly spasticated retard on drugs!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/734082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/734082.page GMT
Thicker than writing paper, thinner than most plasticard.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/735419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/735419.page GMT
Thicker than writing paper, thinner than most plasticard.[/quote]

The strips I use are actually thinner than file cards at 0.25mm plus compatible with super thin plastic glue.

Thanks for the input,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738029.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738906.page GMT FW myself, and I must say looking at those pictures of the scratch built feet you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.

It's a real pleasure to see such a high quality scratch build project.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738911.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738911.page GMT FW myself, and I must say looking at those pictures of the scratch built feet you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.

It's a real pleasure to see such a high quality scratch build project.
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Thanks for the compliment. The feet have been a source of concern to me since I obtained more detailed information. Working from the limited FW building guide and grainy images I managed to get the feet to an acceptible quality but the excellent offering of Mr Hutt (d--- him.) demonstrated they are not all they could be. When I have the model completed I may rework the oversize hinge cylinder axles which will shorten the overall length of the toes 3mm or so and allow the toe attach points to the ankle block to be reduced in overall height.

Busy as I have been on my own projects; I have not had time to fully explore this forum. I did take a look at your T34 diorama thread thanks to your attached link and I must say you are quite the modeler in your own right. When I get this thing finished I'd like some colaboration on a proper display venue.

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Theres no paint on 90% of my kit so the details etc will be as clear as day.

From what I've seen here though you've done a great job in terms of accuracy.

Thanks for the compliment, happy to help anytime. Picking a good scenic base or display method for a large kit like a Titan is always a challenge and very important I feel. You don't want to have something thats too busy that takes attention away from the kit, but like wise you don't want something too dull. It's a tough balance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/738962.page GMT
Still looks great!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/741442.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/741442.page GMT
Not yet, I'm trying to maintain the same level of detail on all the components. I'm working on the waist (hips) now as that is sorely without detail. especially the connection to the body swivel base.

Treads I've put in the same category as the rivets. Probably the last thing I do before painting.


[quote=Gundam-Mecha]Much to my shame my Warhound is still unpainted, so if you ever need any high quality closeup photos of the components let me know and I'll be happy to post them for you or email them directly.

Theres no paint on 90% of my kit so the details etc will be as clear as day.

From what I've seen here though you've done a great job in terms of accuracy.

Thanks for the compliment, happy to help anytime. Picking a good scenic base or display method for a large kit like a Titan is always a challenge and very important I feel. You don't want to have something thats too busy that takes attention away from the kit, but like wise you don't want something too dull. It's a tough balance.[/quote]

Right now I'm working up an alternative to the ankle and hip servos and I've come up with viable plan

I'm thinking the diameter of the ankle servo cylinders are approx the same diameter as the dual pistons on the lower leg and the pistons are correspondingly smaller. I need only make end pieces and attach them to the ankle ball ring with round headed pins and I'll have fully mobile ankle hydraulics. Likewise for the hip/waist servos although I haven't nailed down the diameter of those. I haven't any decent relative sizes of those hydraulics.

If you could post images of them here I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the offer,

Blackadder


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Hope this helps.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/35184-.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/30/35184_sm-.JPG[/img][/url]

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/35182-.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/30/35182_sm-.JPG[/img][/url]

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A wealth of information.

Dare I go and measure that which is completed???

No, that way leads to insanity.

Maybe later,

Blackadder


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I opened this page with a request but I'm almost ashamed to ask now that Jabba so graciously posted such a wealth of information but nothing ventured nothing gained.

I haven't any pictures of the underside of the waist (hips). I've detailed the front, back and sides but nowhere have I found a picture of the bottom of that piece. Does any one have an image they could spare me.

Please Sir, I want some more,

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The waist/hips are nearing completion and today should bring it up to par.

I suppose the most interesting feature is the coil covered cable that runs down the back. Fortunately I have some extra thin copper wireand just wrapped it around some undersized styrene rod and voila, a reasonable facsimile of the conduit. a ring of 1/8 tubing drilled and cemented in place and a styrene block at the other end. some judicious bends and securing in place with extra thin cement and it's done. The ring below the gearlike waistband contained 16 parts not counting the ring itself and the waistband containd 32.

Dozens of odd bits and tubing, shaved 1/32 rod for rivets and cover fasteners.

All in all two days work and damned little to show for it.

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I'll try to get the bottom done this evening; then it's servo time.

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Maybe there will be an end after all.

EB

Thx Jabba]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/745810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/745810.page GMT @Blackladder:

That is very detailed plasticard work o_o

but everytime i see work THIS GOOD of a quality , i cant but help be saddened . With such skills why not create something not made yet by GW or FW?

* i would suggest some super cool giant mecha but im not familiar with warhammer fluff .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/745824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/745824.page GMT FW when you're done, but even aficionados will have a hard time picking it out from a line up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/745959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/745959.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/746517.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/746517.page GMT
I'm going to have some pictures to go with this text but basically I use four cutting tools and a wooden cuttingboard.

1. # 11 1/4" exacto knife
2. 1/2" exacto chisel blade
3. Deep bladed exacto razor saw
4. Stanley Utility knife

I also have two 6" scales metric/32nd inches and 32nd/64th inches, a combination square, a digital vernier caliper which I rarely use, medium and fine sandpaper, some needle files pinvise and extremely small drill bits. a rarely use Dremel.

and a large supply of plastic card stock.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/746999.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/746999.page GMT lol.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/747199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/747199.page GMT
Detail is a subjective quality. What works for one person is not enough or too much for another. I don't pursue excessive detail; I find the new Games Workshop Baneblade much too busy. The high relief rivets and Gothic arch altars (even on the headlight for goodness sakes!) do not appeal to my sense of aesthetics. Now the Lucius Pattern Baneblade is a true work of art embodying anachronistic details and pre-WWII technology. The added armour adds character to the model. The Mars pattern B'blade is drab and uninteresting IMHO.

The Lucius pattern Warhound seems to me the right design for this particular vehicle. The Mars pattern is just too fancy for my taste however I think the Chaos Warhound captures just the right essence for that Baroque style army.

My infatuation with the Warhound design forces me to try to approximate the detail in virtually every respect and right now I am in the process of manufacturing the ankle pistons and cylinders. I hope to have images posted later this week as I have seven of the required ten completed. When attached they will be able to telescope as the legs are posed and give new depth to this fabulous design.

The increasingly verbose Blackadder

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To a much lesser degree my own little triumph of making a functional telescoping servo cylinder that was not too bulky and yet in keeping with the overall design of the Warhound pales in comparison. Yet I am very proud of this minor victory and am going to share the fruits of my endeavor.

I wanted a spherical bearing to mount the cylinder and piston to the ankle and foot pad as on the production model but with the additional feature of a full range of movement. After a good deal of searching I found 3/32 bead ended pins that fit the bill perfectly.

Drilling a 3/32 hole in 2.5mm plastic card just to a point where the drill bit just starts to penetrate the opposite side gives a perfect bearing cup for the bead to sit in. Gluing on a cover piece captures the ball and I cut off the excess to form the bearing housing.

next I drilled a 1/16th hole in the housing until it touched the captured bead. I glued a 1/16 plasticcard rod into this hole and cut off all but a 1/4 inch or so.

I glued a sleeve of 1/8th plasticard tubing over the pin and that is the basis for the entire construction.

Blackadder

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Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/755463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/755463.page GMT [/quote]

I hope you won't be disappointed but I have a penchant for greys and black. We have already decided (my son and I) on a camouflage colour scheme of grey and dark grey which is in keeping with the rest of his army. I'll try to punch it up with some brass and gold for the ancillary accoutrements but there it is.

Grey is a colour too Ya know,

The monochromatic Blackadder


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[quote=LunaHound]
@Blackladder:

That is very detailed plasticard work o_o

but everytime i see work THIS GOOD of a quality , i cant but help be saddened . With such skills why not create something not made yet by GW or FW?

* i would suggest some super cool giant mecha but im not familiar with warhammer fluff .[/quote]

One shouldn't confuse the ability to copy with creative genius. I have done some painting, portraits and the like all of which are using photographs for models but to create a painting from scratch is beyond my abilities. Likewise in modeling, I am at best a copier and a technician; creativity is beyond my purview.

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In studying this image I've just realized it is configured differently from other Warhounds built by FW. This is obviously a FW production model and one showcased by either GW or FW probably at a show but the engine fan cowl or cover is mounted backwards and too far forward so that the front is even with the front of the hull. Was this a mistake in assembly or an alternative configuration?

How could such a mistake be made unless intentional as it would throw off all the internal hull components including the position of the servitors in the carapace.

One thing I will not be adorning my model with is that prominent skull emblem which looks to me for all the world like an evil [i]clown face[/i].

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Detail is a subjective quality. What works for one person is not enough or too much for another. I don't pursue excessive detail; I find the new Games Workshop Baneblade much too busy. The high relief rivets and Gothic arch altars (even on the headlight for goodness sakes!) do not appeal to my sense of aesthetics. Now the Lucius Pattern Baneblade is a true work of art embodying anachronistic details and pre-WWII technology. The added armour adds character to the model. The Mars pattern B'blade is drab and uninteresting IMHO.

The Lucius pattern Warhound seems to me the right design for this particular vehicle. The Mars pattern is just too fancy for my taste however I think the Chaos Warhound captures just the right essence for that Baroque style army.

My infatuation with the Warhound design forces me to try to approximate the detail in virtually every respect and right now I am in the process of manufacturing the ankle pistons and cylinders. I hope to have images posted later this week as I have seven of the required ten completed. When attached they will be able to telescope as the legs are posed and give new depth to this fabulous design.

The increasingly verbose Blackadder

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I like how you take this hobby to a philosophical level. Cheers!
[quote]In studying this image I've just realized it is configured differently from other Warhounds built by FW. This is obviously a FW production model and one showcased by either GW or FW probably at a show but the engine fan cowl or cover is mounted backwards and too far forward so that the front is even with the front of the hull. Was this a mistake in assembly or an alternative configuration?

How could such a mistake be made unless intentional as it would throw off all the internal hull components including the position of the servitors in the carapace.[/quote]
You could mount it backwards, this would allow you to move the piece with the top door hatch to behind the vent assembly. I don't know why anyone would do that, maybe just to be different. But it wouldn't muck mutch with what is below the hull.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/760518.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/760518.page GMT


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[quote=jabbakahut][quote=The_Blackadder]

Detail is a subjective quality. What works for one person is not enough or too much for another. I yada yada yada................... [/quote]

I like how you take this hobby to a philosophical level. Cheers![/quote]

Just following in your footsteps with even a Martini in my hand yet.

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The poster is not responsible for any of the above statements as he is in celebration mode with a double Martini.

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No doubt it feels good to hold it in your hand and know that you have brought the little bundle into the world!


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I know that for me, by now I'd say it's time to get painting . But rivets would be a mighty fine addition this beast, too, if you had a few smurfs to put them on ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/762733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/762733.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/763192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/763192.page GMT
Oh, and big thanks to Jabba for the detail photos. Im saving those for when I go back to work on my own doggy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/763218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/763218.page GMT
[quote=RiTides Nids]Wow! This looks awesome

I know that for me, by now I'd say it's time to get painting . But rivets would be a mighty fine addition this beast, too, if you had a few smurfs to put them on [/quote]

[img]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/21260.page[/img]

Actually if you look really close at the ring around the foot socket there are the required number of rivets which were shaved from .032" rod, picked up with the tip of a #11 exacto fine blade and glued on with super thin plastic glue. I hope they show up better when it's painted.

I've been adding rivets all along especially on the waist component; they're just really hard to see white on white.

No smurfs were conscripted in this effort,

Blackadder


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So here's the project as it stands at this moment and thanks to all for the support as I might have given up without your huzzahs.

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Because I will not be building my titan until this monster is finished, and I highly doubt I'd even post it, I would be ashamed to post it on the same forums as this beast.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/764982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/764982.page GMT FW model once it has paint on it ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/765183.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/765183.page GMT FW model once it has paint on it [/quote]

I appreciate the compliment but there are numerous differences between this and a standard production model. I streamlined the generator pods on the back of the carapace, added an overhang above the tubular link couplings between them. changed the profile of the carapace skirt in the back where I thought the original looked a bit small. I flatten the hull unintentionally as my original images were distorted in perspective but it seems to have worked out okay. But the most prominent feature is that mine is fully posable and the ball in socket joints are of such a close tolerance fit that they pop when installed and removed. FW's magnificant effort is a one shot deal you pose it, glue it together and there it is for eternity.

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[quote=SgtPunishment]My word that is impressive, you should list all parts, [/quote]

As for the parts, all thus far have been scratch built. I don't see any off the shelf components in my frequent searches of the local hobby stores.

[quote]and make more of a step by step guide on how to create this monster of a scratch build.[/quote]

I thought this was a step by step guide. Egad, was I in error???

[quote]Because I will not be building my titan until this monster is finished, and I highly doubt I'd even post it, I would be ashamed to post it on the same forums as this beast.[/quote]

Come, come; We all can't be [b]manic obsessives:[/b]

[i]"Definition: While depression is the most common psychiatric problem in HD, a smaller number of patients will become manic, displaying elevated or irritable mood, overactivity, decreased need for sleep, impulsiveness, and grandiosity."[/i]

I frequently awake at 3:00 AM and start working on this model until it's time go to work to earn a living. I would hate to be the cause of you not posting your noble effort.

I am looking forward to following your impending thread,

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As for the parts, all thus far have been scratch built. I don't see any off the shelf components in my frequent searches of the local hobby stores.

[quote]and make more of a step by step guide on how to create this monster of a scratch build.[/quote]

I thought this was a step by step guide. Egad, was I in error???

[quote]Because I will not be building my titan until this monster is finished, and I highly doubt I'd even post it, I would be ashamed to post it on the same forums as this beast.[/quote]

Come, come; We all can't be [b]manic obsessives:[/b]

[i]"Definition: While depression is the most common psychiatric problem in HD, a smaller number of patients will become manic, displaying elevated or irritable mood, overactivity, decreased need for sleep, impulsiveness, and grandiosity."[/i]

I frequently awake at 3:00 AM and start working on this model until it's time go to work to earn a living. I would hate to be the cause of you not posting your noble effort.

I am looking forward to following your impending thread,

The Blackadder[/quote]

I'm sorry about the way the post came across, it was in jest about me not posting my project, I'm just currently finishing off about 2840 points worth of dark angels before I start on my titan, it won't take me long, just batch painting all the models really...

but once everything is done I will be starting my titan, and I'll be working on it for 2 hours a day, and if I keep to the projected schedule, it should take me a month to finish it from start to table top ready, admittedly, it's going to be a generic static posed one, but once I've got this one out of the way, I will be working on a titan a bit like yours (more dynamic, and some detail, like rivets / wires etc)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/766867.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/766867.page GMT FW model. It's amazing that you have the little plackards on the pistons behind the thigh.[/quote]

Yes the vent louvers are there but for some reason beyond the resolution of my antique digital camera. They will probably show up better when they are painted and highlighted.

I've still a lot of detail to add to the legs and I'm willing to attempt installing rivets down to 0.25mm but no smaller. I have a box of details I have yet to put on as I installed the side vents on the lower leg section too early and had to drill holes in them for the piston mounts. I'll not be putting the cart before the horse again if I can help it. I have the scrolls made for in front of the knee joint but I'll have to look at what you mean by behind the knee joint. I'd appreciate any images you can provide if not too much trouble and thanks for the offer.

Strange no one has mentioned the wooden axles in the joints. I hope to be able to cover those soon with the proper end caps.

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I appreciate the compliment but there are numerous differences between this and a standard production model. I streamlined the generator pods on the back of the carapace, added an overhang above the tubular link couplings between them. changed the profile of the carapace skirt in the back where I thought the original looked a bit small. I flatten the hull unintentionally as my original images were distorted in perspective but it seems to have worked out okay. But the most prominent feature is that mine is fully posable and the ball in socket joints are of such a close tolerance fit that they pop when installed and removed. FW's magnificant effort is a one shot deal you pose it, glue it together and there it is for eternity.

I still want a FW Chaos Warhound,

E.B.
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There, words put to shame. But you'll have to memorize the differenses for when its painted...

Great work!

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There's not very much to show these past few days. Mainly sharpening the corners and general cleaning of glue joints and seams.

I'm beginning to make the hinges and latches for the various hatches but aside from the tedium there's little visual progress.

Congrats on your promotion from Corporal,

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The one step forward and two back Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/781428.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/781428.page GMT
Is it plastic rod cut, specialised rivets?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/781579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/781579.page GMT
Is it plastic rod cut, specialised rivets?[/quote]

I use Evergreen plastic rod from .020 to .060 inches thick cut in wafers from 0.25mm to 0.5mm thickness depending on location and Tamiya super thin plastic cement. (I hope these companies appreciate these endorsements). I put a smidgen of cement on the location of the rivet and pick up the rivet with the tip of a #11 Exacto blade and place it on the glue dot. You have plenty of time to push it around after you have a short row in place and even after a half hour you can pop the rivet off if you make a mistake which is so much better than using pins as I did on my Titan Hunter

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210995.page

and Armorcast Baneblade

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/226278.page

At that time I hadn't discovered the Exacto trick which is easier and faster than drilling holes for pins.

The unsolicited Blackadder

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I have the thin rod - do you do anything special (other than patience) to get the rivets the same thickness? Different sized rivets is OK for Ork vehicles, but not so good for Imperial.

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I have the thin rod - do you do anything special (other than patience) to get the rivets the same thickness? Different sized rivets is OK for Ork vehicles, but not so good for Imperial.

Thanks[/quote]

[b][size=18]Practice![/size][/b] but seriously rivets that are too high can be filed down with a steel emery board found in most drugstores or ask your girlfriend if she has an old one you can have or use. Women have a lot of equipment we are not aware of to help them look their best. My daughter just the other day asked me to repair her hair straightener which looks like a clamp device that heats the hair and takes the natural curl out of it. What an ideal thing to mould thin plastic around a die and I didn't even know it existed.

Back to the rivets; the average human eye can discern a difference of 0.0001 of an inch in certain circumstances but a row of rivets I believe you could get away with 0.01 inch and no one will notice.

I don't think you'll hear, "Dude, like some of your rivets are 'way too high."

Blackadder

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[quote=The_Blackadder]...the average human eye can discern a difference of 0.0001 of an inch in certain circumstances but a row of rivets I believe you could get away with 0.01 inch and no one will notice. [/quote]

Wow, that's 0.00254 millimeter! Where did you hear that?[/quote]

I can't lay my hands on the specific source right now but here's a similar verification:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Quantum/see_a_photon.html

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I really must get back to my own stuff one day!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/784920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/784920.page GMT
A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That’s approx. .00003937 inches.

35 microns is about .00138“, (just over one-thousandth of an inch).

The lower limit of visibity to the human eye is about 4 microns.

Pollens range from about 30 to 50 microns

A white blood cell is about 25 microns


????What hinges????
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It took about 20 minutes to make the four after they're trimed and under the cover screen I believe they'll look fine.

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Blackadder

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Jabba, don't tell me the fans turn in the other direction.

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To which hinges are you referring???

The further misadventures of The Blackadder

"Fiddly work" or a slavish attention to detail; it's all the same when attempting to duplicate a Titan. The one person I have to satisfy is me and I am a hard taskmaster. The only changes I make or have made are those where I think the original design can be improved on. IMHO elsewhere and there are very few areas where improvements were deemed necessary I hoped to render as faithfully as I am capable the original work which in the main is superb.

Below is my completed interpretation of the engine and cooling compartment.

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Actually I hate the d--ned thing and wish I'd never started the project. I'd been piddling along for a year and only the last month or so that I've worked on it in ernest [b]thanks to the support I received on this thread.[/b]

I've not cut myself as yet that I can recall and my basement workshop is a cool 60°F year round ( I have a dehumidifier in the summer).

No tears, but a lot of anxiety at times trying to figure how to make something like those blasted fans. I just want to see the thing painted.

A week or two more with the detail. Detailing is fun but I get caught up in minutia. Right now I am working on the head. After thats done probably tomorrow I'll finish applying caps on the joints on the legs and toe joints and I should be ready to paint.

This new way of doing rivets is a lot better than the pins and more sizes are available. My local hobby store has some ideal etched brass mesh for the cooling cowl but it's rather expensive. Anyone have any ideas on where I can get some reasonable etched sheets??

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Note the clutter on my worktable.

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Awright so I ain't neat

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Other option is B&Q, they sometimes does some nice decorative brass stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/790855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/790855.page GMT
You can see some of the nylon one on the picture below (a nurgling base my 9 YO daughter made).

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The mesh one is about the same gauge but has individual weaved strands and holds shape when bent etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/790937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/790937.page GMT
Keep it up, it's inspireing..

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One step forward and two steps back,

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Thanks for all the help but I think I'll just bite the bullet and go for the gold er I mean brass.

http://www.hobbymasters.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4092

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The hood and cheek vents look about done and the edging for the head armor will be installed tomorrow.

For those interested, thanks for the support.

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Thanks, the squares (vents? whatever) see below are on the original production Warhound. They will be embellished with the obligatory skulls etc as will 50% if the flat surfaces on this model.

More detailing to come,

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Made a new weapon for my Warhound , also... Needed a "destroyer" weapon to handle Red Skulls Stompa.

Positively love your plasticard Warhound!

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Made a new weapon for my Warhound , also... Needed a "destroyer" weapon to handle Red Skulls Stompa.

Positively love your plasticard Warhound!

Azmo[/quote]

GEEZ! WEAPONS! I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE. Why doesn't Baldrick tell me these things.

Thanks for reminding me,

The complacent Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/801520.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/801520.page GMT GW Battle Bunker, and I was looking around through the display case and I saw the Emperor class Titan stated earlier in this thread! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/802487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/802487.page GMT
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I started installing the umpty ump rivets I lost count after 300. I'm using 0.020, 0.030, 0.040, 0.050. 0.060 dia styrene rods shaved 0.20mm thick, and half inch straight pins.

Blackadder's mixing his units of measurements as usual; how does he manage to keep it straight???]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/808187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/808187.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/808259.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/808259.page GMT
This is simply amazing, well done thus far!

Also, those nurglings are great. I might have to make some for my wife.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/808357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/808357.page GMT
since I've completed most of the detail on the head I did a little 'Photoshopping' (Actually I use Photo Impact Pro #10 which I think is a better program than Photoshop.)

I still have the armor on the top of the head to do and the windows and windowframing replete with rivets need to be added after painting.

So I copied and pasted one of my images of a real Warhound head onto my recent image. I was greatly pleased and surprised how well it came out and would like to share it with all of you who have been so instrumental in keeping me on target in finishing this thing.

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Good job ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/811642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/811642.page GMT da winner]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/814429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/814429.page GMT da winner[/quote]

Thanks, but I haven't heard from my old pal and benefactor Jabba lately. I hope nothing's amiss.

I've installed dozens of rivets and am still finding more. How many are too many especially since they all have to be filed shorter after the glue dries. I'm still working on my first bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement and it seems to be losing it's potency. does the stuff weaken if the top is not tightened after use as I am wont to do?

Anywho here's today's work and the start of the mega bolter. There's probably a better way to make this but I can't have too much weight up front.

Blackadder ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/814523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/814523.page GMT
Keep going!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/817593.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/817593.page GMT Anyway this is a fantastic peice of work!

BoW- John]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/817598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/817598.page GMT Anyway this is a fantastic peice of work!

BoW- John[/quote]

Thanks

Yes although there is no perceptible thickening of the liquid it doesn't seem to penetrate through capillary action as deeply as before.
I had to put some clear glass marbles in the jar to deepen the liquid level for the brush to reach. Guess I should buy some more.

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Keep going![/quote]

Oh I'm going, yesterday evening in spite of a liberal imbibing of frozen Margaritas I managed to apply the first coat of primer to the head and manufacture the Void Shield Projector bases and the bases for the reactor exhausts.

As the rabbi said "It won't be long now",

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Any help you need with material, measurements, etc don't hesitate to ask. I received a lot of help from this forum and would like to recipricate.

I took some better pictures today without benefit of Margaritas.......

Yet,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/818903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/818903.page GMT Out of town camping on the Guadeloupe river in Texas. As always your work clearly rivals that of the original. I'm sure there is no need for me to point out any noticeable differences (as I'm aware that they probably all stick out to you).

On the head, the windows on yours are a bit bigger and the snout a bit shorter, the angle of the rear structure/vents(?) seems like it might be a bit off. I only bring those up because I think the tighter windows and longer nose look a little better.

Your rivets look much better than on the original. I'm not sure if you can tell in the photos-but the FW model rivets are rather small, more than a couple of mine didn't mold right. I should have just shaved them and made clean looking ones like yours. I really like the rivets work man.

Some of the best work so far, will sadly go unnoticed. The underside of the head is incredible and the back of the carapace is impeccable. Also the details on the right and left of the snout just forward and under the armor look phenomenal as well.

Are you doing any interior work?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/828086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/828086.page GMT
Noticeable differences Indeed!!! Sir you take great liberties.

Yes I am fully aware of the discrepancies many of which are intentional but alas a few that are not. I appreciate your candor. Surprisingly no one has picked up on the most obvious difference in that the carapace on mine does not taper toward the front as in the original. In most of the scratch build plans I've seen this angle is much too extreme. I decided to make my prototype parallel with the engine vent compartment and pare the angle in to what I felt was the proper angle. Ultimately I decided parallel looked best.

[quote=jabbakahut]On the head, the windows on yours are a bit bigger and the snout a bit shorter, the angle of the rear structure/vents(?) seems like it might be a bit off. I only bring those up because I think the tighter windows and longer nose look a little better.[/quote]

My windows are only the interior frames as yet. I've still got to install the clear styrene and exterior frames and the roof overhang so that will be easily rectified. Interesting that you think the snout is too short. My original head had a longer snout by approx 3/16 inch but I though it looked too long so when I rebuilt it I made the muzzle shorter. I thought it conveyed a greater impression of strength; a 'pug'nacious demeanor if you will. The rear vents in what would be the ear area gave me a good deal of trouble and I rebuilt them three times. Having only perspective images to go by I gave it my best shot. They fall short of the ideal but will be hidden from all but the most scrutinous inspection by the hood.

[quote=jabbakahut]Your rivets look much better than on the original. I'm not sure if you can tell in the photos-but the FW model rivets are rather small, more than a couple of mine didn't mold right. I should have just shaved them and made clean looking ones like yours. I really like the rivets work man.[/quote]

Until I saw your manual I was not even aware of the rivets in the head armor. They are so small that the paint obscures them in most of the images I had previously. I made mine larger but still they are undersized for the size and the weigh that shielding must have.

I whilst installing these umpty-ump rivets continually reflected on how woefully inadequate these rivet and bolt patterns are for a vehicle of this size. Take a look at the trailer on the next Semi you incounter on the road. and notice the rivet pattern for just afixing thin sheet metal on a non-combat vehicle. Having worked on jet aircraft and inspected the steel hulls of old passenger liners; I can tell you that fist sized rivets 12 to 24 inches apart will not do the job. I put them in for the same reason the original artist/designer did. To break up large empty expanses of slab siding.

[quote=jabbakahut]Some of the best work so far, will sadly go unnoticed. The underside of the head is incredible and the back of the carapace is impeccable. Also the details on the right and left of the snout just forward and under the armor look phenomenal as well.[/quote]

The underside of the head which I am very happy with was surprisingly easy to do. Aside from the pictures you so graciously provided I have never seen any images of this highly detailed area.

I really prefer the 'moulded in' Void Shield Generator housings to the FW model. The gap between the engine vent housing and the generator housing always gave me the impression of a Model 'T' Ford technology. If I am ever fortuanate enough to own and build an original FW Warhound I will change this area to copy my design.

Another thing I cannot bring myself to do is cut the tabs into the skin on the top of the carapaces. I have tried sketching them in but they always detract from the overall effect to my eye. I have decided to leave them out.

[quote=jabbakahut]Are you doing any interior work?[/quote]

Aside from the engine vent compartment in which I stole your colour scheme if you don't mind and installing busts of drivers in the cab there will be no other interior appointments. I toyed with the idea of a complete interior but felt the material was not up to the challenge as far as strength.

Thanks for the critique,

Blackadder

[b]More rivet detail[/b]

It took me 3 hours to install the 196 rivets on the caps for the leg joints not to mention the interior of the hip swivel drums. Talk about tedious. I still have to install the rosettes on the caps but decided to take a break and take some pictures. In all the caps took 3 days to manufacture and I don't relish repeating this part of the project but I still have the toes to do IIIEEEE!

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Are you speakingas far as; mentally, manufacturing-wise or both?

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/828801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/828801.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/828816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/828816.page GMT I had to go get mine off the shelf to verify, I doubt in anybody would notice that. I wasn't even aware of it on my own model. It is a very subtle angle, I see the problems in getting that right. I think the parallel works just fine.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/829531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/829531.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/829535.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/829535.page GMT IMHO I hastly add.

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[quote=The Dreadnote]In that you're the kind of person who will spend three days installing rivets, where your average person would say "nah, too much hard work".[/quote]

I.E. Manic Obsessive but "hours" on these particular rivets.

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Question of probablilities for you math and physics wiz's out there:

I've studied a little quantum physics and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle but I'm at a loss to explain why when you install a rivet approximately 0.030inches in diameter and 0.015inches thick it invariably stands on edge instead of lying on the flat disc surface. I've even tried to stand it on edge (even though I really want it to lie flat just to confuse the gods of the laws of probablity) and the damned things still stand on edge. It's like flipping a coin a hundred times and every time it stands on edge.

Now here's the real kicker; on a piece of scrap I deliberately tried to stand these tiny disks on edge and they lie flat every time.

I think my basement is haunted by Schrodinger's cat,

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I don't think you're dealing with quantum mechanics, unless you're a really crazy rivetter. I think you're dealing with good old surface tension, dissolving polymers, and the relative static charges of the plastic pieces. I imagine, and this is a bit of a just-so story, that the rivets you've cut out have microscopically rough edges, where there loose-ends of styrene polymers that catch much more easily on the unraveling polymers that are being dissolved by the cement you're applying. And the charge orients the rivets edge on. So, not really rivets, but molecular bonding studs! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/833595.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/833595.page GMT
I don't think you're dealing with quantum mechanics, unless you're a really crazy rivetter. I think you're dealing with good old surface tension, dissolving polymers, and the relative static charges of the plastic pieces. I imagine, and this is a bit of a just-so story, that the rivets you've cut out have microscopically rough edges, where there loose-ends of styrene polymers that catch much more easily on the unraveling polymers that are being dissolved by the cement you're applying. And the charge orients the rivets edge on. So, not really rivets, but molecular bonding studs! [/quote]

So you're saying that the rivets are so small that static electricity is causing them to stand on edge???

Thanks,

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Here's how great a job I think your doing here, in those last few sets of pics I actually thought you had replaced the head you had been scratch building (not that I thought you needed to) with the head of a FW warhound, turns out you'd just primed it grey!

Really fantastic scratch build. Something I could only ever dream of as I completely lack the patience required to cut plasticard accurately in such volumes.

Bravo, I look forward to the finished beast.

Cheers,

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Here's how great a job I think your doing here, in those last few sets of pics I actually thought you had replaced the head you had been scratch building (not that I thought you needed to) with the head of a FW warhound, turns out you'd just primed it grey!

Really fantastic scratch build. Something I could only ever dream of as I completely lack the patience required to cut plasticard accurately in such volumes.

Bravo, I look forward to the finished beast.

Cheers,

Dante[/quote]

Thanks but don't sell yourself short. Cutting plasticard needn't be a chore.

Rough cut the card slightly oversize and glue in place with thin liquid cement.

After it dries dress the intersecting panels with a fine file and voila; a perfect edge and or seam.

THe only real pain in the a-- (and only because there are so many of them) are the rivets.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/833857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/833857.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/834765.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/834765.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/836918.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/836918.page GMT [/quote]

Got it. Thanks,

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AGREED!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/839338.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/839338.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/841813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/841813.page GMT FW paint jobs after all.

I have one in mind but I would take a few suggestions gladly. The painting of this beast is a one shot affair and I want to get it right.

As of now it's as plain as a mud fence,

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Ah yes the renown British mastery of understatement and sophistication as demonstrated by your avatar and who pray tell might that individual be mugging for the camera???

[quote=jamessearle0]*whistles* mhm, mucho detail there mate needs more finishing [/quote]

Noted, I had thought of putting wheels on it and offering it as a bilateral amputee but yours is a viable option as well

Thanks for the replies and forgive my jocular responses but I couldn't resist.

The incorrigible Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/845713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/845713.page GMT
I also rebuilt three of the eight toes. The poor things took a real beating these past few months and were just too flimsy to stand the gaff of time so I re-designed them stronger and more flexible.

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Nice to hear from you none the less,

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Nice to hear from you none the less,

Blackadder[/quote]
I wouldn't try it, but have you seen those fighting Japanese robots? It it not unheard of.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/867705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/867705.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868142.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868150.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868150.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868239.page GMT Wow, that is some deep cannon shit. Have you read everything? I thought I was well read, good answer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868785.page GMT
Interesting answer; I always wondered what actually powered these things but what really piques my concern is: [b]How do the hydraulics work without hoses????[/b]

Inquiring minds want to know,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/868842.page GMT
Holtzman is from Dune - the inventor of the Holtzman field that allowed the folding of space amongst other things.

[quote=The_Blackadder]
Interesting answer; I always wondered what actually powered these things but what really piques my concern is: [b]How do the hydraulics work without hoses????[/b]

Inquiring minds want to know,

Blackadder[/quote]

Easy - they use their teleportation technology to teleport the hydraulic fluid in and out!



Makes maintenance and ruggidity to attack better!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/870911.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/870911.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/870922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/870922.page GMT Interesting answer; I always wondered what actually powered these things but what really piques my concern is: [b]How do the hydraulics work without hoses????[/b]

Inquiring minds want to know,

Blackadder[/quote]

Easy - they use their teleportation technology to teleport the hydraulic fluid in and out![/quote]

I see; and they teleport the hydraulic pressure as well? Hmmm. (He quiried wryly.)

The problem there is suppose you transport a gallon of hydraulic fluild into a space that only has room for say for the sake of arguement a quart. (or for you backwards individuals that still use the metric system '4 liters into a 1 liter space'.) For an instant there is infinite pressure inside the hydraulic cylinder and the d--ned thing explodes. One might just as easily transport the jot of fluid into the enemy as save the need for guns etc n'est pas.

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Interesting answer; I always wondered what actually powered these things but what really piques my concern is: [b]How do the hydraulics work without hoses????[/b]

Inquiring minds want to know,

Blackadder[/quote]
Come on, it's the 41st century, the alleged hydraulic cylinders are actual servo operated. Instead of fluid under pressure being the force generator, the two half's of the piston act as a rotor and stator, the precision of complex movements can be seen in modern stepper motors for robotics. The energy consumption to operate these draws such a huge current that the bulk of the titan is dedicated to is fusion generators which provide the power needed to operator the 'servos'.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/871832.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/871832.page GMT
Interesting answer; I always wondered what actually powered these things but what really piques my concern is: [b]How do the hydraulics work without hoses????[/b]

Inquiring minds want to know,

Blackadder[/quote]
Come on, it's the 41st century, the alleged hydraulic cylinders are actual servo operated. Instead of fluid under pressure being the force generator, the two half's of the piston act as a rotor and stator, the precision of complex movements can be seen in modern stepper motors for robotics. The energy consumption to operate these draws such a huge current that the bulk of the titan is dedicated to is fusion generators which provide the power needed to operator the 'servos'.[/quote]

In that case there would be required equally large electrical cables to run the servos which should be visable unless the electric power is transported as well?

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Sorry I didn't get to send you those photos of the Warhound legs, I was away on holiday for ages! I guess you wont need the reference photos anymore?

As to the hydros and pistons why not model on some cabling? It would be a nice realy world touch. I'm going to add washer hoses and electrical cabling to my T-55 to detail it up. I think little things like that really add to a large kit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/871922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/871922.page GMT
So, I would argue the lines, cables, hoses etc. are internal, or at least hidden under the armor. For a historical diorama like Gundam-Mecha's we must be informed by actuality, but for a more fantasy piece (such as my "mecha" or this awesome Titan thing) we should decide what is suitable.

My model has a "clean" look which cables etc. would spoil. But I think a 40K Warhound would look good with some more exposed "worky bits".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/872179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/872179.page GMT
Well you could ask your son, Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/872912.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/872912.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873157.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873157.page GMT
Read "The Mote in God's Eye" for a great sci-fi analog to the Void Shield, the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langston_Field]Langston Field[/url].]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873194.page GMT
A couple of chops and there go the ankle hydraulics.

Blackadder
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873202.page GMT what if all the "exposed wires etc." didn't do anything at all!

So the enemy wastes time thinking, "That looks important. BAM! Nothing happened. I'll shoot that other work bit. BAM! Nothing happened."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873252.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873288.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873288.page GMT
A couple of chops and there go the ankle hydraulics.

Blackadder
[/quote]I've not personally seen any evidence that points one way or the other. There's the single issue of the Titan graphic novel in my local library, but I don't recall if the voids were up during the boarding scene featured. Down, I think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873843.page GMT
A couple of chops and there go the ankle hydraulics.

Blackadder
[/quote]I've not personally seen any evidence that points one way or the other. There's the single issue of the Titan graphic novel in my local library, but I don't recall if the voids were up during the boarding scene featured. Down, I think.[/quote]

In Warhammer monthly issue 11 and 12 there were a Ravenwing story. They took out a stompa by going in under it, an throwing in some explosives. In order to get through the shields of the stompa they had to stop and let the shield pass over them, the brother who tried to drive through it met a hard barrier that crushed his bike...

Though not Void shields, the power shields of the Orks is comperable in function....

Azmo]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/873930.page GMT
This is why the Armored Company rules (originally at least) had rules tanks could not come within a certain distance of cover without infantry support.

Unless a Titan has sensors which send huge amounts of information to the crew (and it can respond fast enough) or has auto-anti-infantry systems (such as auto-targetting bolters or autoguns firing at anything which scurries around its feet) it is going to need infantry support.

I [i]always[/i] envisaged Titans were accompanied to battle by squads of heavy infantry, scurrying around the feet, sometimes hitching a lift on the feet, constantly communicating with the Titan crew. Perhaps a few sentinels. They would be highly trained to not get stepped on, of course.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/874359.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/874359.page GMT
Most mechanized vehicles are vulnerable from the rear and that is where to approach them from. Granted the Warhound is capable of great speed but probably doesn't employ that capacity all the time as it would outrun its ground support. The Warhound doesn't seem to have any secondary weaponry. Other than the void shields what defenses does it have against determined ground personnel?

Tanks at least have a turret that can cover 360° with secondary machine gun fire.

Newton not withstanding,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/875633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/875633.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/875852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/875852.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/875959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/875959.page GMT
Lol are you serious?

In other news absolutely FANTASTIC model. Perfect in every way. Have you decided what color scheme?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876065.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876065.page GMT
Lol are you serious?[/quote]

No of course not still there are a few areas where the American Standard of measure archaic as it is is superior to the metric system such as linear measurments for model building for unless I am wrong there is no gradient less than a millimeter on the 'standard metric scale' and the 'AS scale' I use gives me measure units of 1/64 inch. (I also have one graded in 1/128 but I'm not a fanatic.) There are approximately 3mm to an 1/8 inch whereas there are 8/64ths to 1/8 inch. Unless there is a metric ruler that can split the millimeter into quarters I shall continue to use the AS scale.

Perhaps that is why my fine detail work may seem so "unbelievable" (If I may be so unabashed to quote the general run of these replies); You guys gotta get better rulers.

Blackadder ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876457.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876457.page GMT The ruler I use for modelling goes down to 0.25mm, most rulers only do 1mm (but then again most imperial rulers only go to 1/32")
Perhaps extremely fine detail work with rulers is the one situation where imperial rulers can be better than metric, but I wouldn't go so far as to call the Metric system backwards. Although, maybe I'm biased, coming at this from a physics/engineering POV.

Anyway, look forward to seeing more updates Keep up the great work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876485.page GMT The ruler I use for modelling goes down to 0.25mm, most rulers only do 1mm (but then again most imperial rulers only go to 1/32")
Perhaps extremely fine detail work with rulers is the one situation where imperial rulers can be better than metric, but I wouldn't go so far as to call the Metric system backwards. Although, maybe I'm biased, coming at this from a physics/engineering POV.

Anyway, look forward to seeing more updates Keep up the great work.[/quote]

I'm fully aware of the smaller divisions of the mm including 'pico', 'femto', 'atto' and ångström (non SI) units all the way down to 'yocto' (i.e. one septillionth of a meter).

I didn't call the metric system backwards except to make a joke earlier but to have a scale splitting a mm into quarters would be great. (incongruous as that seems to me as the "whole point" of the metric system is to have all units divisible by 10. The very fact that the concession is made reinforces the argument). Now if the meter could be broken into thirds it would be more convienient for say carpentry.

The incorrigible Blackadder

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/876532.page GMT FYI. Twenty eight caps in all to do =280 rivets just for the caps alone. Whew!

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885057.page GMT Epic build really!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885066.page GMT
Jawohl mein Fuhrer!

EB

Where is "Monasteria?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885109.page GMT
Do you have any idea how many hours you have spent on this model, or is such a calculus the key to the carefully-locked portal to an unending realm of madness consisting of a cathedral made entirely from the flayed skin of the damned and inhabited by the wailing of a trillion crystaline bees, where the light only casts shadows and does not illuminate?

I ask because I would suspect the original FW model took at least as long to sculpt, and such a figure might support the high profit margins (vs. raw material costs) of the FW stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885255.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/885255.page GMT
Do you have any idea how many hours you have spent on this model, [/quote]

It's really hard to estimate how much time as I made a lot of failed starts. Initially I started this model early in 2008 but my job interfered with doing anything but the hull and carapace. I put the whole thing on back burner while I started a new career and resolved 01/01/09 to make an effort to resume building. I piddled around for two months trying to figure out how to make the toes and joints moveable and really started in ernest 03/01/09. I work in spurts doing nothing for days on end and the putting in 6 to 8 hours at a stretch in the wee hours of the morning ( I get up at 3AM everyday and officially start work at 9AM.) I conservatively estimate I average an hour a day so 150 hours would probably be about right. Considering my payrate this thing is costing tens of thousands of dollars so I really am not ahead of the game not buying one outright but wheres the fun in that.

[quote]or is such a calculus the key to the carefully-locked portal to an unending realm of madness consisting of a cathedral made entirely from the flayed skin of the damned and inhabited by the wailing of a trillion crystaline bees, where the light only casts shadows and does not illuminate?[/quote]

Not for anything would I interupt the mellifluous flow of the above statment.

[quote]I ask because I would suspect the original FW model took at least as long to sculpt, and such a figure might support the high profit margins (vs. raw material costs) of the FW stuff.[/quote]

I rather think that the whole model wasn't sculpted but that the duplicate components where sculped and cast to save the tedium of repetition. It takes a psychotic level of masochism to make the same pieces over and over.

From one who knows,

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The toes are just placed in front of the foot pad so I have to hold the model.

If you look real close at the # 3 toe there is my first hydraulic cylinder in place. Sorry no macro lens on this camera.

[img]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7511.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7513.jpg[/img]

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/911070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/911070.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/911082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/911082.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/911732.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/911732.page GMT
My order of priorities:

Toes have to be finished first because they are the hardest, most tedious and the damned thing can't stand without them.

Armor has still to be fabricated but unless it can stand on it's own there is not much point in attaching the armor.

design a clip to attach the armor for easy removing. (maybe magnets)

Finish building the armament.

Add weights to the rear of the generator housings for stability and balance.

Paint the detail.

Install top of head armor and windows/windshield to cockpit.

Vow never to become engrossed in another project of this magnitude.

I've learned my lesson,

EB ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/912023.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/912023.page GMT
Break vow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/912914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/912914.page GMT
Can't wait to see it finished.

One (extra) final step:

Take thread and turn it into the biggest, most jaw-dropping tutorial on Dakka to date.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/913209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/913209.page GMT
The literally hundreds of components in the toes alone not counting the mistakes, redos, and redesigns. I wouldn't recommend this project for those who frustrate easily.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/Thetoecomponents2.jpg[/IMG]

Each toe is fully articulated and as close to the scle of the original as the material will allow.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/Thebigtoecomponents.jpg[/IMG]
The #2 toe components exploded view

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/Toe3hydraulicsfronttopflexed.jpg[/IMG]
A very grainy image of the #3 toe forward hydrualics

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/Toe3hydraulics.jpg[/IMG]
The #3 toe in flat position

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/Toe3hydraulicssidetopflexed.jpg[/IMG]
The #3 toe flexed not much of a range of motion for all that work!

The reason the Blackadder is certifiable]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/914380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/914380.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/914643.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/914643.page GMT
Sorry to say I have no templates for the toes or any other part of the vehicle. All I have are hundreds of images I have gleaned from various sources on the internet. There is also the problem of copyright infringements. FW and GW take a dim view of people publishing the measurements of their products and rightly so. Also, I have no way of knowing how accurate my components are as far as size. My greatest fear is after I complete this model and show it off at some games meet someone shows up with a real Warhound and mine is ridiculously small or ungainly large and all this work will be for nought. At that point I 'll waggle it's toes at them. I'd be happy to coach you on any part of the construction but I've already been cautioned elsewhere on producing templates. After all we don't want this forum shut down do we?

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/915747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/915747.page GMT By GW officially, or just some forum mods?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/943112.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/943112.page GMT GW for posted paper model templates. Have you been away for the summer? I took a week off from modeling after finding the forward toe cylinders as presented on the original model are too short to function properly on an actual moveable construction. I got so P.O.'ed I lost interest in the whole thing for a while. I really should do some drawings of these toes. They are the hardest part of the whole model especially if you want them moveable. The dual cylinders at the base of the toes are particlarly hard to manufactureas they are about 4.5mm long and I still haven't figured a way to mount the knuckle end of the piston. I might have to forgo that bit of articulation.

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EB[/quote]

Feels like I've been gone for the summer. I'm usually reading all you're updates, I just feel that unless I can add something constructive, why bother commenting? All I would be doing is parroting the same thing over again "man great work, looks incredible!" So unless I can add something interesting I just let everybody else commend your work. I was starting to wonder why you hadn't updated in a while (hence my adding a comment to bump your thread). I can totally understand hitting a wall with a project and just walking away from it for a little while. I was considering offering my Titan to you to borrow for comparison, but I realized that is something you probably could have used a long time ago, things are pretty set now. But just like everybody else, I can't wait to see this thing painted up. Your fears about exacting proportions is fair, but in reality I don't think anybody will be able to tell this is a scratch, even FW owners.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/945392.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/945392.page GMT 1. What is the procedure you use to apply your rivets?
2. How you you make them uniform in distribution?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/952546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/952546.page GMT 1. What is the procedure you use to apply your rivets?[/quote]

I slice the rivets off with a new #11 exacto tip about 10 at a time on a wood cutting board not a self healing mat. I don't measure but extra thin rivets I discard and the thicker ones I install in easy to reach places for sanding later. I use a steel emory board to file the rivets, available in cosmetic stores. I've used the same one for many years and even glued a new wood handle on it when the original plastic handle broke. Apart from that they last forever.

I pick the rivets up with the tip of a new #11 exacto blade and put a dot of tamiya super thin cement (usually one to three at a time, any more and the glue dries too fast before you can place the rivets.)

[quote]2. How you you make them uniform in distribution?[/quote]

Fortunately I have a rather good eye for spacing so unless I have a critical area where a slight discrepancy in spacing is readily apparent (or I have had too much to drink) I just apply the dots by eye and transfer the rivets on with the #11 blade. a second or two of pressure 'til the glue adheres and you move on to the next. I find that even with measuring (which would be prohibitable tedious for so many rivets) I constantly correct in placing the rivets because of micro variations in the pencil line thicknesses anyway so I don't bother to measure except in the above cited instances.

A little practice is all that is necessary.

Hope this helps,

EB
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EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960860.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960878.page GMT [/quote]

Wadaya mean "bordering"? I am truly certifiable.

Not one to do things by half,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960912.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960912.page GMT
You? Titan KING. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960998.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/960998.page GMT FW ones. I couldn't tell in the photo, did you put skulls and banners on them? No way you were able to put the aquilla on the piston joint right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/961907.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/961907.page GMT

Seriously though, what with the casting problems of the FW titans, your toes look bettter! (i should know, ive built and painted one!)

Oh dear, that sounded a bit boastful, wasn't meant to, sorry! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/962207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/962207.page GMT
[quote=SargesSquad]The amount of detail you're putting into this is equally amazing, insane, and awesome. This is one of those projects that you'll be really proud of for a long time.

You? Titan KING. [/quote]

Titan King, I like the sound of that. Hopefully it will last longer than my first coronation.

[quote=jabbakahut]Dare I say, I believe that your toes look better than the originals. I just think yours actually have sharper detail than the FW ones. I couldn't tell in the photo, did you put skulls and banners on them? No way you were able to put the aquilla on the piston joint right?[/quote]

Banners are going on this evening but a source for the miriad of tiny skulls is a bit of a problem. My son is scouring his friends bitz boxes for enough.

[quote=Vitruvian XVII]Terribly sorry captain, didn't mean to offend

Seriously though, what with the casting problems of the FW titans, your toes look bettter! (i should know, ive built and painted one!)

Oh dear, that sounded a bit boastful, wasn't meant to, sorry! [/quote]

No offense taken; I was only taking umbrage in a jocular vein.

Boast away, I covet a real Chaos Titan myself.

Some day sigh,

EB


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The perplexed Blackadder


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Oh you mean:

[img]http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/mediawiki/images/f/fd/Aquilla.jpg[/img]


Not yet.

E.B.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/964446.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/964446.page GMT FW one isn't that sharp.

Here you can see that the feet are rather covered in little insignia details, maybe because if you were to stand next to a titan that is all you would really see? If you click on the pic and view it in the gallery you can zoom in (very far I might add).

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/52503-.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/9/10/52503_sm-.JPG[/img][/url]

Also, I've found my preferred method of making rivets is to use a tiny punch and varying thicknesses of plastic card stock depending on the need.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/52502-.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/9/10/52502_sm-.JPG[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/964883.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/964883.page GMT FW one isn't that sharp.[/quote]

Baiting the Blackadder are ye Sir? Throwing down the gauntlet as it were. Now that I have seen the close up photos I think I can duplicate the rhomboid shaped blobs indicated by the arrow. :wink:

[quote]Also, I've found my preferred method of making rivets is to use a tiny punch and varying thicknesses of plastic card stock depending on the need.[/quote]

Nice little punch you have there. It appears to yield a 1/16"=.0625" inch dia. rivet. Unfortunately the largest rivet I require is 1/25"=.040" and the smallest I can manage is 1/64"=0.021" although that is a great idea for punching out headlights and the other lights needed in clear styrene after I paint this sucker.

Thanks for the photos,

EB

Another point of interest is the length of the cylinder. Given that the barrel of the cylinder is so short, it is pretty much as I suspected that the toe would not have that range of motion for if that were a possible stance then the toe could not be posed flat as is the usual flat footed pose seen on most models. let alone curling around objects such as the Rhino pictured below.

The toe cylinder would have to be considerably longer and conversely the piston that much shorter.

Mind you I am not casting aspersions on your inspired model so much as pointing out a minor flaw in the FW design.
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A note on skulls: The Empire Flagellants kit comes with a mess of nicely scaled skulls on ropes and chains etc. You might be able to grab the bits off the warstore at a reasonable price. Likewise the Sisters of Battle Immolator sprue has many icons with nicely scaled skulls, though it gets a little salty to buy up for that purpose. A SoB player who isn't into super blinged out tanks probably has a number of spares though.

Also, Freebooter miniatures sells a blister pack of assorded skulls that have pretty good detail, but come in a variety of sizes and styles, so you might need more than one.

Again, great job. I really need to work on a better method of rivet production...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/965948.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/965948.page GMT [/quote]

If you look close the toes are mottled and I assume, (not being fully conversant on Empire alliances) that it is a Chaos Titan,

or FW has hit a new low in quality control,

or whoops, Collateral damage a new dimension in friendly fire!!

[quote=Wehrkind]Looks great, yadda yadda.

A note on skulls: The Empire Flagellants kit comes with a mess of nicely scaled skulls on ropes and chains etc. You might be able to grab the bits off the warstore at a reasonable price. Likewise the Sisters of Battle Immolator sprue has many icons with nicely scaled skulls, though it gets a little salty to buy up for that purpose. A SoB player who isn't into super blinged out tanks probably has a number of spares though.

Also, Freebooter miniatures sells a blister pack of assorded skulls that have pretty good detail, but come in a variety of sizes and styles, so you might need more than one.

Again, great job. I really need to work on a better method of rivet production...[/quote]

Thanks for the information but I have decided to accept Jabba's challenge and am going to make the skulls and assorted accoutrements from scratch so the ultimate completion date has been set a bit back accordingly and you can blame Jabba Ka Hut.

Watch this space for further developments, :
E.B.
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The title has officially stuck. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/967948.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/967948.page GMT
[quote=SargesSquad][quote=Shaman]I just went through this whole thread. woah nice work titan king.[/quote]

The title has officially stuck. [/quote]

To this I can only quote a remark made by American Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman when he was being considered as a possible Republican candidate for the presidential election of 1884. He declined, saying, "I will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected.

"If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve." Lord Edmund Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/968308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/968308.page GMT
E. Blackadder

Thanks to Jabba for pushing me to make the skulls, aquilla, and banners from scratch. They're all there Mr. Hutt

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Anyone who's thinking that your work is sub-par should probably be taken out back and given a stern talking to. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/969350.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/969350.page GMT
Thanks,

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And your request...

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/53079-.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/9/13/53079_sm-.jpg[/img][/url]

Anybody who is wondering why my titan has two middle toes-feel free to read my guide ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/970677.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/970677.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/970901.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/970901.page GMT
Interesting you haven't corrected that toe error considering your modeling skills it should be a snap although on the other hand battle field conditions necessitate compromise when extreme conditions arise so it is conceivable that when faced with supply shortage and a damaged beyond repair phalange; substituting a middle digit for a side one may have proved a viable expedient.

I hasten to finish these toes before this becomes the foot fetish corner of the Dakka Forum.

EB




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[quote=The Dreadnote]Yep, you're definately crazy Personally I would have called quits on the toes looong ago. Excellent dedication![/quote]

[quote=person person]WOW...all these toes are amazing.[/quote]

Crazy, a definite certainty. Thanks for the responses,

The well over the fine line Blackadder
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Many thanks to my benefactor Jabba for the images of the bottom of the toes. Not that anyone will see all this work but at least [b]I'll[/b] know it's there.

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[quote=The_Blackadder]I hasten to finish these toes before this becomes the foot fetish corner of the Dakka Forum.[/quote]

I think that this part provides an insight into how the foot fetish mind works. It's such a shame, though, that not many of them have seen this hot stuff. Mmmm.

...So get it finished ASAP! I can't control the feeling within for much longer...

Cosmic rates this work highly indeed!

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I'll be more than happy to impart any of my techniques after all this is a mutual aid discourse. Mr Hutt was kind enough to provide me with the necessary photos to accomplish this model. can I do any less than help those that want to know how I managed to build it.

The treads were made of 0.5mm Evergreen boxcar siding which comes prescored with each board approx. 1.5mm. I cut the strips with a standard Stanley Utility knife (not an Exacto knife which is too flexible.). To make the treads I first sanded the edge of the plastic card so instead of 2 slats of siding I had 1 1/2. i laid them out on the foot pad and used a scrap 0.5mm strip to provide the spacing. I figured the spacing based on the need for six units of tread per side toe and the center toe with the aquilla emblem was spaced between the toe treads as space would allow. That was pretty much of a guess as I don't measure and do much of the work by eye. I find that when working with such small scale that measuring is more of a hinderance than a help and pencil lines and even scribed lines are too thick to give a satisfactory result.

I laid out each course of tread and cemented it with Tam. super thin cement. When all the courses were laid I used a razor saw to cut out the center section from toe to heel and cut out the scrap with a #11 exacto knife. I cut 45° tips from the center of each tread end and guestimated how far to cut each back as the toe tapers with each segment. I then pared every other strip as the tread segment s are not uniform with a # 11 exacto blade. I installed each of the chevron shaped treads and again guessed at the angle to cut them as they are way too small to measure being >4mm in length. After all the chevrons were glued in place I used my needle files to dress the rough intersies and sanded the whole tread pad smooth with very fine sandpaper.

I then added the small triangles pieces between the chevrons and sanded and dressed again. I the applied a thin wash of glue to insure the whole set of treads were firmly attached, did a final cleaning after it was dry and another light sanding as needed. I then used my pinvise drill and a 0.030" drill bit to cut the tread holes by hand.

Then I painted the whole mess with Krylon grey primer.

[quote=Cosmic] The level of dedication that you have expressed throughout this project is truly outstanding, Blackadder.

[quote=The_Blackadder]I hasten to finish these toes before this becomes the foot fetish corner of the Dakka Forum.[/quote]

I think that this part provides an insight into how the foot fetish mind works. It's such a shame, though, that not many of them have seen this hot stuff. Mmmm. [/quote]

I don't know, a well turned ankle is hard to beat. :LOL:

[quote]...So get it finished ASAP! I can't control the feeling within for much longer...

Cosmic rates this work highly indeed! [/quote]

Man, no one is more anxious to finish this than me,

Blackadder
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Seriously though, its really interesting to get an insight into your methods]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/987495.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/987495.page GMT How thick is that card your using for the treads?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/987510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/987510.page GMT How thick is that card your using for the treads?[/quote]

http://www.evergreenscalemodels.com/Sheets.htm

I use the freight car siding .020"thick (0.50mm), 0.067"spacing $5.49. I have used less than two sheets for all the models I have built.

A true value and well worth the price considering the time and aggravation saved in cutting thin strips.

The easily ballistic Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/987588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/987588.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/988048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/988048.page GMT [/quote]
lol, an ork trukk is already effectively a wreck. not really much to 'make' it into that]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/988077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/988077.page GMT
"She's got legs and she knows how to move them. "

To quote an old song BTW the real lyrics for that song are a bit too racy for this forum.

Finally she's standing on her own (well sort of I need to install some junk in the trunk) don't worry, I've got room for half a pound of lead weights.

but the joints seem strong enough to bear the weight and then some and she is fully possible within the limits of the design.

There are flaws in the FW design and the cylinders built to scale length do not allow for the full range of motion as represented by the various poses of the production model. FW employed a fudge factor (artistic license). The main problem is with the waist to hip cylinders. the piston length is too short and when posed at the extreme end of the socket orbit, the opposite piston slides out of the cylinder. The toe cylinders are likewise too short. I could change the length but it would alter the look of the model which I don't want to do so I'll just have to settle for a limited range of motion.

[b]Now[/b] I can start on the weapons.

EB

And when did I start referring to her as she? Well just today. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/993047.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/993047.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/993697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/993697.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994548.page GMT
This was the subject of one of my Dakka construction articles and one of my pride and joys. Actually it was my first attempt at a total scratch build.

I saw a beautifully rendered model on ebay and had to make it.

Read all about it here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210995.page

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/fourviews03_5a.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/569.jpg[/IMG]

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994743.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994766.page GMT
As a rule I like my tanks grey. I figure a house sized vehicle moving slowly across a field could only be disguised as a big ass boulder. I called my tank platoon the Steel Legion before I was apprised by my son that such an army already existed. The difference is my vehicles are steely grey

My favorite color (or lack thereof) has alway been black before it became chic and grey is a logical extention of that.

The Warhound will be an exception. It just doesn't grab me all grey. initially I was going for a grey on grey camouflage see below:

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/imperialguard02.jpg[/IMG]

but even that wasn't what I was looking for so I've ultimately decided to copy the FW signature Warhound piece:

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/Paintwarhound4g.jpg[/IMG]

Unless someone has a better suggestion]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/994800.page GMT lol. "Sir! A boulder is closing in on our position! Shall we open fire?" But still, certainly a lot of post have said this, but you've got some mad, possibly even psyker induced skills. Better just not let the inquisition find out about you and your scratch builds...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/995136.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/995136.page GMT IT WALKS!!!

And its awesome.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/995244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/995244.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/995406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/995406.page GMT
Blackadder
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Awesome job on this, I'm amazed at the effort you've put into the whole thing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/996408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/996408.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/998164.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/998164.page GMT
[quote=SargesSquad]Walked onto a floor covered in marbles.[/quote]

[quote=Neith]First time I've seen a Titan breakdance.

Awesome job on this, I'm amazed at the effort you've put into the whole thing.[/quote]

My son let the cable guy in to hook up my new 'FIOS' and that was how I found the model when I got home from work.

Fortunately there will be no evening news account.

The very much in control Blackadder
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Anyway here's the first days work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1003191.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1003191.page GMT
Funny, that. When I see a Warhound Titan, I just think "wow, a Warhound Titan!" On the other hand, when you next see FW's resin version, I'll bet that your thoughts will most likely be much more about the actual model itself. I guess that's why many people would rather just to pay up than attempt it themselves... Or that they can't actually do it anyway!* This is what makes this project different, it's about Blackadder doing the more difficult thing and pushing his boundaries further outwards. Like has been mentioned before, this is inspiring stuff.

Oh yeah, good luck with the megabolter. Finally, some shooty-killy things!

*Neither can I!

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How stupid of me to not include a picture of the "lumps."

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It'll be great to see him marching in the 'arm' y.

bring on the gun show.

I hope is bite is bigger than his bark.

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Funny, that. When I see a Warhound Titan, I just think "wow, a Warhound Titan!" On the other hand, when you next see FW's resin version, I'll bet that your thoughts will most likely be much more about the actual model itself. I guess that's why many people would rather just to pay up than attempt it themselves... Or that they can't actually do it anyway!* This is what makes this project different, it's about Blackadder doing the more difficult thing and pushing his boundaries further outwards. Like has been mentioned before, this is inspiring stuff.
[/quote]

If I ever see a FW production Warhound I've never seen a real one and apparently they're a rare item here in Jersey. No one here has ever seen one in the flesh er resin. Most of the GW company stores have closed in this area also. I had four local a couple of years ago and now they are all closed?

I guess the scratch builders put them out of business the Ba----ds,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004366.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004467.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004771.page GMT
I dunno?

But seriously, I've toyed with the idea of black monofilament fishing line. I'll try making a bundle of it. Pass it thru some rings made of copper or brass tube stock. Glue the ends into brass tubing collars and glue it to the connectors. The bundle can be held intact with cyno acetate glue and still remain flexible.

'course you could be a sport and give me yours,

EB ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004849.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1004849.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1005159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1005159.page GMT You recreate it very proffessionaly !
Why don't you create your own model?( after finishing this one of course !]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1006192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1006192.page GMT You recreate it very proffessionaly !
Why don't you create your own model?( after finishing this one of course ![/quote]

Aside from me being merely a copier there are certain estabished models that have been accepted for this genra. I suppose a titan could be created with the same strengths and play values as the production model but would it be allowed in a tournament game. It would be a shame to waste all that effort on an unplayable piece.

Mais alors my next project will be a scratch built Warlord Titan and aside from a few photos I will be building entirely by instinct.

That should assuage the creative criteria.

serait il pas

La Vipère Noire

Thanks for the reply. I've never had a response from France before (I don't think).

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1007615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1007615.page GMT GW looked to hire you for something. Im sure Dakka is proud to have you. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1007646.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1007646.page GMT ...[/quote]
I've been thinking about doing that myself. Too bad the timing isn't right, we could have a Warlord build-off!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1007739.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1007739.page GMT ...[/quote]
I've been thinking about doing that myself. Too bad the timing isn't right, we could have a Warlord build-off![/quote]

There's no time like the present. Er that is after I finish the Warhound.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1010397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1010397.page GMT Honestly I didn't know who sang the song; I just remembered the "leggs" comercial.

How's that for dating yourself.

Not much accomplished this week. I do have the bolter body nailed I think and am starting to add the detail.

Originally the front housing was too short and the mount arm housing too long. The bolter barrels were too small and the front overhang too short so I redid virtually the whole thing working on the existing frame.

It looks pretty alright to me and the proportion to the head and hull looks about right so now on goes the detail this evening

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7582.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7584.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7585.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7586.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/DCP_7588.jpg[/IMG]

If anyone has just cause as to why this detailing should not take place; let him speak now or forever hold his peace.

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Seriously though, do the detailing. The VMB casing/shell is looking awesome and those bits on the back of the FW weapons are for attatching hoses/wires.



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Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of an outraged patron, etc.

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Also, Legs is sung by ZZ TOP.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1027783.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1027783.page GMT
I started building a warlord last year (it got sidetracked) and did a lot of scaling via AutoCAD, and that's what I remember it being.[/quote]

Thanks, love to see the autocad work.

[quote=jamunition]Holy moly that is better than a forge world one[/quote]

Thanks,

[quote=Wehrkind]Looks great as usual. What's the diameter of the styrene barrels there?

Also, Legs is sung by ZZ TOP.[/quote]

The barrels are 5/32" or 3.98mm and the tips are 1/8" or 3.5mm.

Who?

The out of it Blackadder
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Don't know why I put off installing the gimball. It really is quite simple.

First you cut, chop bore, carve, or blast a hole larger than the rotator sphere.

stuff paper, kleenex, or whatever into the void so you don't waste too much epoxy.

mix up enough epoxy to fill the hole.

smear a light coat of vasoline or wax onto the sphere.

Insert the sphere slightly more than half way into the epoxy. a rim of epoxy will push out around the sphere. don't wipe it off or disturb it; you'll just make a mess.

Allow the epoxy to set for a few hours. I use epoxy that hardens in 24 hours but after a few hours it is hard enough to handle.

I use an exacto chisel to remove the rim of epoxy from the ball. The epoxy at this stage comes away readily from the plasticard with no residue. you can even flick it off with your fingernail.

At this point it's good to note that I have threaded an 8-32 screw into the ball.

Grabbing the screw with a set of pliers; the ball should come out with a satisfying 'pop'.

Voila one fully articulated gimbal,

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If I were to ever complete a project such as this, I think that I'd spend a few days afterwards spinning around on my desk chair whilst laughing madly. Who needs an evil feline pet when you can have a titan!

"I told you not to anger me, and now the Warhound is upset. Start running now... Mwhahaha!"

"So are you going to tidy that mess up or not?"

"Oh, right, that. Errr, give me a minute and I'll do it... I SAID A MINUTE!"

Ah, a touch of randomness never did any harm. Anyhow, have fun getting this part done! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1035183.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1035183.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1035878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1035878.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1035891.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1035891.page GMT
Here's what you need to do if you have a Dremel style power tool. Cut out a large amount of material from the bottom of the weapon (Where the detail is sparse or cut a slab with the detail intact.) and hollow out the weapon especially towards the front. Then epoxy the slab back on and fill the seam. That shouldn't be too hard because you have a bolter and a plasma cannon. A lascannon would require a rebuild of the barrels out of evergreen tubing again not too difficult.

HTH,

EB




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[b]Live and learn Department:[/b]

Here's some thing I just found out while I was waiting for the [b]Tamiya[/b] glue to dry. I have always cursed them because the brush doesn't reach to the bottom of the bottle. I've been adding marbles to raise the fluid level but I was just holding the collar around the gimbal and waiting for the glue to set and noticed that the brush is an insert and can be slid out to reach the bottom of the vial. Those insidious Orients; wouldn't you think they would have mentioned that on the label instead of the ridiculous admonishment not to drink the stuff.

I mean if you have to be warned not to drink plastic glue I'm afraid you won't be long for this world anyway.

Of course with that in mind one might argue that if you have to be told to slide the brush out you might be too stupid to build plastic models Blackadder. LOL

Thought I'd get that in that before someone else did,

EB


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The hat in hand Blackadder ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052391.page GMT
Insane again Blackadder. Brilliant stuff.

Cili]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052406.page GMT
Thanks for responding,

Here Lucy waiting for her arms I hope I can do more in the next week.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052444.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052444.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1052504.page GMT ATM.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1055362.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1055362.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1055429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1055429.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1055729.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1055729.page GMT
Scratch building is indeed a gratifying pursuit and I wish that there were plasticard when I was a youth. We used to model WWII naval vessels out of shirt cardboard and celophane tape. A 600 foot battleship would be rendered at about a foot long and take weeks to build. With the impetuosity of youth we would think nothing of shooting them up with BB's (Do they still make BB guns anymore???) and setting fire to them while recreating various Pacific battles. What I wouldn't give to have those models back; but I digress, I have one rule now with scratch building well actually two the first being don't set your work on fire but second never build anything you can afford to buy as a kit. There is a lot of work in even a small model and why not let someone else do the hard part. I personally wouldn't do a model that costs less than $250 dollars, my time and effort is worth more than that.

Just my two cents for what it's woth which seem about right. LOL

Good luck on your scratch build and any help I can be don't hesitate to ask,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1059956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1059956.page GMT LOL, that is good advice, definately more than two cents worth. After a few tries at simple conversions I just decided to give plasticard construction a go. Just keeping it simple for now, but certainly shooting high for projects worthy of the time and effort.
I read your explanation on how you did your great looking rivets. I've read of similar methods, but I've heard that many times that rivets done like this tend to come off fairly easy during transport or after being stored in foam for a while, or just be rubbed the wrong way. Are there extra steps one should take to prevent one's rivets from falling off. I've been using small nails, which requires a lot of pin vice work, and I think I want to avoid this method in the future. Can't wait to see your finished titan, and the one after!
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I used dress making straight pins almost exclusively for my tank models They are available in various head sizes (which vary with the length of the pin) in stateside millinery shops. I drill slightly undersized hole and insert a cut off pin head with about a 1/8" shank still attached. no glue necessary and they don't come out in normal use. The last alternative is to drill a slightly larger hole and insert a plastic rod dipped in glue and cut off the excess. After it's dry dress the head with a fingernail emery board (I use a steel one which I've had for ages). This method is the most labor intensive but best for 0.020" or less sized rivets and what I used on the plasma cannon. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1063450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1063450.page GMT I am glad to see that I am not the only one to justify buying models based on the notion that it would take me far longer to make one myself than it takes to make the money at work! My wife doesn't quite understand the notion, her hobby being saving money.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1063957.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1063957.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064060.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064066.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064387.page GMT
The level of detail on this thing is stunning.

Can't wait to see the finished thing]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1064397.page GMT
Which weapon will you make as Lucy's second arm, out of interest?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065032.page GMT I am glad to see that I am not the only one to justify buying models based on the notion that it would take me far longer to make one myself than it takes to make the money at work! My wife doesn't quite understand the notion, her hobby being saving money.[/quote]

Actually I said I wouldn't scratchbuild models I could afford to buy. I don't actually buy models except for derelicts I find on ebay. I restore these wrecks to their potential glory (mainly superheavy tanks). At the moment I have:

two FW Baneblades, a Lucius and Mars each,

three FW Shadowswords

A FW Stormblade,

An Armorcast Baneblade rebuilt to look like a FW Lucius

An Armorcast Shadowsword in original condition

and my scratch built Titan hunter.

They are quite a sight on a battleboard.



[quote=Empchild]just picked up this thread cause I was bored at work, but WOW was it worth it and boy am I glad I did. Honestly like you said whenever you see scratch built titans usually they just look horrible, but yours...I mean WOW honestly WOW. the true attention to detail the overall magnitude of it...WOW. I tip my hat to you sir.[/quote]

I hope I have never made a disparaging assessment of others scratch built efforts and if I have I deeply apologize. I do recall stating that the level of detail is measured by ones personal satisfaction or words to that effect.


[quote=Dysartes]I'm very impressed, Edmund.

Which weapon will you make as Lucy's second arm, out of interest?[/quote]

I intend to make a full varity of arms eventually but the next weapon is (as I am working out the basic shape right now) the dual lascannon. That should be relatively simple as the complexity of the detail is much less than the bolter.

I don't relish making another plasma cannon as I hate repetition especially on a scale this size but I must as the Hunter's cannon isn't adaptable to the Warhound.

I won't be making a fist, mace or chainsaw though because they just look silly IMHO,

Blackadder

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065087.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065087.page GMT lol. Cool idea in itself, taking derelicts others get rid of and recommissioning them. This next bit may also be kinda redundant, but your warhound is an absolute killer so far. Keep up the good work, and may the Omnissiah be with you/ ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065323.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065323.page GMT I am glad to see that I am not the only one to justify buying models based on the notion that it would take me far longer to make one myself than it takes to make the money at work! My wife doesn't quite understand the notion, her hobby being saving money.[/quote]

Ms Blackadder is the same way. Poor women god love 'em they sure got the short end of the stick when it comes to interests. I mean could you be satisfied with floral arangements and china patterns?

I rather think not,

EB

[quote=s.j.mccartney]this is so sweet. when she's walking and shooting and painted it'll be a day to rejoice!!
[/quote]

Man, you and me both. I'm champing at the bit to start the next project.

[quote=Valkyrie]C'est exellent!

The level of detail on this thing is stunning.

Can't wait to see the finished thing[/quote]

See above, thx

[quote=Lord Kaesar II]By the way you take old wrecks of tanks and fix them up you sound kinda like the Mechanicus in how they take blown up stuff and just restore it for further punishment, lol. Cool idea in itself, taking derelicts others get rid of and recommissioning them. This next bit may also be kinda redundant, but your warhound is an absolute killer so far. Keep up the good work, and may the Omnissiah be with you/ [/quote]

It's sad when parents buy expensive models for their kids and don't help them build them. The level of ability to render a resin model satisfactorly is beyond most pre-teens; they just don't have the patience. Think what a teaching moment this would be instead of indulging the kid just to get him out of your hair.

Help me off this soapbox,

Blackadder
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065640.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065640.page GMT IMHO,
[/quote]

Not to mention the fact that Warhounds don't carry close-combat weapons ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065654.page GMT


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065669.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065669.page GMT FW rules for a warhound. However that pic looks pretty awesome. CCWs also suck on titans as the void shields don't work when you get close-up :(

Back OT: Brilliant work as usual. As to the rear of the VMB its just 2 smaller squares on the angled face, with a small gap between each square and the edges. These are for the hoses to attatch to the body.

Ps. Not sure if you got that, i would take a pic of mine but its at the club. If there are any reference pics you need, let me know and ill get them for you on Wednesday. (Although i don't have the turbo-laser or flamer thingy)

Hope that helps,

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Can't wait to see the finished product!

Cheers,

Dante]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065683.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065683.page GMT AS noted by Vitruvian, I'm referring to any version of the Warhound which has seen rules - either Epic or 40k - as I'm 95% sure none of them have carried close combat weapons.

What some people choose to model is, of course, up to them.

Having said that, the old Reaver chainfist looks cool on the appropriate chassis.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1065723.page GMT AS noted by Vitruvian, I'm referring to any version of the Warhound which has seen rules - either Epic or 40k - as I'm 95% sure none of them have carried close combat weapons.

What some people choose to model is, of course, up to them.

Having said that, the old Reaver chainfist looks cool on the appropriate chassis.[/quote]

So that's what that is and once you said it I remembered seeing it on an old AC Reaver. Thanks for the info. I get myself in too deep when I talk about the game. That's my son's department]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1066409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1066409.page GMT [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/61480-.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/10/31/61480_sm-.JPG[/img][/url]
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Poetic license, sue me. In the future it will apply to titans as well.

Thanks for the pictures

The Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1082954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1082954.page GMT
EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083393.page GMT FWs. Cant wait to see more on the lasers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083402.page GMT ftw !
Man i can't wait to see this finished ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083436.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083436.page GMT
Alright, alright! Hehehe. On the other hand, it's good to know that our comments are helpful to you. You (and the Titan) deserve them!

[quote=The_Blackadder]Lucy is so excited she accidentally stepped on one of her escorts. Fortunately the driver was unharmed.[/quote]

Ah, der Imperialen Armee, 'tis a man's life! Seriously, Blackadder, I'm not too sure if there's anything else that I can say about this project other than WOW! It's waaayyy too deep for my understandings. Well, at least I think so anyway...

You should e-mail FW with some picture of "her" when she's done. The caption should be "HA!" or something else suitably similar.

Keep it up man! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083705.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083743.page GMT
It's the curb that goes around the gimbal sphere for the lascannon. It's the same part as is on the Bolter. I just wanted to so how to glue it. I used the cap of an old Taminya cement bottle for a form.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083936.page GMT Lol at the crushed sentinel. I really like this, keep up the good job.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1083995.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084081.page GMT
At any rate the squashed Sentinel was just a joke. I care too much for my Apocalypse Sentinel squad. It was on the workbench for repairs as it had fallen off of it's base and broken a leg so I just bent Lucie's toes around it. Its not a permanent fixture.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084369.page GMT FW assemble instructions had a perfect image of the side and bottom detail!!!

Incidentally it's called a "Turbo Laser"! Why doesn't somebody tell me these things??? LOL

The red faced Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084386.page GMT
if so I am gonna give my imaginary warhound 2...........

DC]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084437.page GMT
if so I am gonna give my imaginary warhound 2...........

DC[/quote]

It's quite clear they can. The information is right out of [i]der buch der unstrrucshions[/i] (the German word for 'instructions' is unrecognizable...Unterricht or Anweisungen LOL)

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1084511.page GMT FWs.[/quote]

QFT]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1086256.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1086256.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1087831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1087831.page GMT
I intend to make the full compliment of arms eventually but the next weapon is (as I am working out the basic shape right now) the dual lascannon (Turbo laser). That should be relatively simple as the complexity of the detail is much less than the bolter. There a also a few new weapons introduced by FW for the Reaver titan. I may make those in a scaled down version for the Warhound but after I get the Turbo laser completed and the arm hangers I will complete the Warhound before making any more weapons.

I don't relish making another plasma cannon as I hate repetition especially on a scale this size but I must as the Hunter's cannon isn't adaptable to the Warhound.

The weapons of course will pop onto the rotator spheres and the cable conduits will plug in.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1088797.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1088797.page GMT FW 'hound could take a similar set of images that I might compare my effort to the real thing as it doesn't seem likely that I'll be seeing one in the near future.

I did post images with some Catchans literally underfoot and others with a Sentinel actually underfoot. As big as it looks Lucie stands only ten and a half inches high which scalewise translates to about fifty feet tall or twice the height of your average two story suburban home.

Below are a few pictures I just took tonight with my poor obsolete camera. Surprising how many different shades that lamp puts out.

I have it on authority that the figure between the feet is a Tech Priest who (No doubt sans fey regalia.) would be in charge of the beastie. So help me the grey color is growing on me I may go with the grey on grey camo after all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1093684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1093684.page GMT FW 'hound could take a similar set of images that I might compare my effort to the real thing as it doesn't seem likely that I'll be seeing one in the near future.[/quote]

Do you have WD 334? The one which features Apocalypse? That might help... If not, there's always Google if nobody can give you a size comparison picture.

[quote=The_Blackadder]So help me the grey color is growing on me I may go with the grey on grey camo after all.[/quote]

When it comes to stuff like colour schemes and such, nobody can truly help you out. If grey is a favourite colour choice of yours, then go with it. You'll find that you may prefer the over-all outcome of the titan because of this, where-as you may be more critical of it if you were to choose another colour scheme. Whatever you do, don't ponder over a choice like this - It'll just get you nowhere. Sometimes it's all too easy to spend a long time planning on things, and yet not actually get anything done.

Anyways... It's all looking good from what I can see Blackadder. As usual - Keep it up!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1093861.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1093861.page GMT
Well I have a couple more weeks before I make my final decision. The lascannon whoops I mean Turbo Laser is coming along nicely now that I have the final basic shape done. All that left is the detailing which to me is the icing on the cake, I love detailing. Here's the basic body that I just put the finishing touches on today. Yup no barrels yet, they're detail.

As usual FW's design is a lot more complicated than a casual glance would allow. There are many cutouts and recesses that make the overall model come alive instead of looking like a couple of scale shoeboxes glued together. The FW designers are true artists as well as d--ned fine engineers and I would love to see concept drawings and prototype models. They should offer that to the public. I also would like to know whether this was the effort of one individual or a team.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1095114.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1095114.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1095624.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1095624.page GMT I think all of the titan stuff (both patterns and the Reaver) were created by the dynamic duo of Will Hayes and Simon Egan.

Sorry, I don't have any sentinels in which to photocopy for you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1095830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1095830.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1100679.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1100679.page GMT
Truley is outstanding, your accuracte replication of this model, on the begennings of the turbo laser is just amazing

Well done, keep it up, and I look forward to your next update]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1100726.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1100726.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1100739.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1100739.page GMT lol.

Anyway, must get some help from you on working with those materials you are using.

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[IMG]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z216/mattstanley75/blackadder.jpg[/IMG]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1101329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1101329.page GMT
First of all I knew full well that Wolf's avatar was Rohin Atkinson in his Mr Bean persona. That was supposed to be what you may call a bit of a joke; yeesh!

That out of the way to the business at hand.

Plasticard telescoping tubing only comes in sizes up to 0.5 inches so to get the necessary barrel thickness which I calculated to be about 0.625 inches I had to wrap some thin stock around the 0.5 inch tube. The exacto handle is 0.375 and I use it to prevent the tube from collapsing when I clamp it. I use this technique quite regularly as when I made the hydraulic cylinders, the band around the hip barrel, the rim around the hip and ankle gimbals, the collar around the gun mount gimbals and the waist swivel gear. I glue the end of the card stock to the cylinder insuring it's square with the tube and allow it to dry. Then I file the end to a fine bevel and proceed to wrap and glue until the desired thickness is achieved. another coat of glue and clamp until dry at which point there is a raised seam that gets beveled with a file so it is barely perceptible. There is usually some structure that will hide the seam if need be as in this case where the two barrels will be in close proximity so the seam could be hidden there.

Hey we're talking about FW here. You know how bad their castings are anyway. LOL

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1101410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1101410.page GMT
If nothing your 'hound will look better because it won't contain any of those horrible mold shifts!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1101904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1101904.page GMT FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1102047.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1102047.page GMT
First of all I knew full well that Wolf's avatar was Rohin Atkinson in his Mr Bean persona. That was supposed to be what you may call a bit of a joke; yeesh!
[/quote]

I know, the picture posted was a bit of a celebration of that fact.

Plus, the idea of Blackadder as an inquisitor amuses me.

That being said, top performance all around. I love the model.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1102056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1102056.page GMT FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal[/quote]

I'll answer your questions in full tomorrow I just put in a long day today and am bushed. I'm very pleased to offer what help I can but to be fair; I don't have any accurate measurements just educated guesses so the info I give you may not be totally correct.

A Mars pattern, thats an ambitious project. Sculpting skills in addition to boxcutter skills I'm looking forward to your thread.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1103163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1103163.page GMT FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal[/quote]

I'll answer your questions in full tomorrow I just put in a long day today and am bushed. I'm very pleased to offer what help I can but to be fair; I don't have any accurate measurements just educated guesses so the info I give you may not be totally correct.

A Mars pattern, thats an ambitious project. Sculpting skills in addition to boxcutter skills I'm looking forward to your thread.

Blackadder[/quote]

Thanks, man. I got a toe done today (I'm impressed with myself considering this is my first time ever working with Styrene, lol I'm such a noob) and I'll get pics by tomorrow. Yea Mars Pattern will be tough because its sleek and curvy, but for the body and shin guards I am just going to sand wooden molds for each and heat the plastic onto it making nice smooth curves. Unfortunately, a woman's hair dryer was not hot enough for the styrene, though. Maybe I have to heat it longer, but I digress... I am probably going to fudge the measurements like you. I am praying I am right on my calculations (kinda ironic for an engineering student), but even if I mess up I got practice modeling.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/260414.page

^Along with your thread, this one is very helpful for reference and the detail is down right impressive. The legs don't scare me modeling-wise at all, it's the head and body. Mine will probably end up as a crude version of his but the fact that I made a titan will be sweet.

Finally, here's a fun idea. LED's inside the head to make the eyes glow. I will probably attempt this much later once I get modeling down.

take it easy,

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You are more then likely going to have to go and purchase a heat gone from an electrical store or hardware store. We use them all the time for heat shrink and are a little bit hotter then a basic hair drier without all the wind. Also use to use them to help put Kiwi wax on boots.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1103602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1103602.page GMT FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.[/quote]

[quote]First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.[/quote]

Quite correct I used 1.0" balls for the ankles but the waist spheres should be 1.125" (1 1/8") but you will have the devil of a time finding them. For the arms I used 0.875" (7/8") spheres and the neck is a 1.25" (1 1/4")wooden drawer pull.

[quote]Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".[/quote]

The base ankle tube is 0.664"( A shade under 11/16"). How I came up with that measurement I don't know. it just looked right.

[quote]Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?[/quote]

I used four (3/8) grey styrene hollow square stock; (I don't know the manufacturer) but it has thicker walls than the Evergreen. If I had it to do over I would just use Evergreen stock. The reason for that was to provide a good base for the joint tubes to be epoxied to the leg segments. The leg units in cross section are 0.93" X 0.85" again it just looked right. I built them up by sheathing them in Plasticard stock.

[quote]From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?[/quote]

All these measurements are just my guesses, I don't have any dimensions taken from a FW model for you.

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[quote=Kaladin][quote=The_Blackadder][quote=Kaladin]Hey Blackadder nice looking model you got there. You've inspired me to try to make a Mars Pattern puppy instead of wishing for a FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal[/quote]

I'll answer your questions in full tomorrow I just put in a long day today and am bushed. I'm very pleased to offer what help I can but to be fair; I don't have any accurate measurements just educated guesses so the info I give you may not be totally correct.

A Mars pattern, thats an ambitious project. Sculpting skills in addition to boxcutter skills I'm looking forward to your thread.

Blackadder[/quote]

Thanks, man. I got a toe done today (I'm impressed with myself considering this is my first time ever working with Styrene, lol I'm such a noob) and I'll get pics by tomorrow. Yea Mars Pattern will be tough because its sleek and curvy, but for the body and shin guards I am just going to sand wooden molds for each and heat the plastic onto it making nice smooth curves. Unfortunately, a woman's hair dryer was not hot enough for the styrene, though. Maybe I have to heat it longer, but I digress... I am probably going to fudge the measurements like you. I am praying I am right on my calculations (kinda ironic for an engineering student), but even if I mess up I got practice modeling.[/quote]

My idea was to build a foam core poster board base and smear epoxy over it and sand it smooth. Of course I would be building a chaos model so flaws would be a plus. I really think FW uses the QC rejects to flesh out their Chaos stock and the really bad stuff become Ork models. LOL

[quote]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/260414.page

^Along with your thread, this one is very helpful for reference and the detail is down right impressive. The legs don't scare me modeling-wise at all, it's the head and body. Mine will probably end up as a crude version of his but the fact that I made a titan will be sweet.

Finally, here's a fun idea. LED's inside the head to make the eyes glow. I will probably attempt this much later once I get modeling down.[/quote]

I've toyed with the idea of LED headlights which is why the sockets are still empty.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1103859.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1103859.page GMT
You are more then likely going to have to go and purchase a heat gone from an electrical store or hardware store. We use them all the time for heat shrink and are a little bit hotter then a basic hair drier without all the wind. Also use to use them to help put Kiwi wax on boots.[/quote]

Ah, it is as I feared. Alright, looks like I have to invest more money into this project. Thanks.

[quote=The_Blackadder]

My idea was to build a foam core poster board base and smear epoxy over it and sand it smooth. Of course I would be building a chaos model so flaws would be a plus. I really think FW uses the QC rejects to flesh out their Chaos stock and the really bad stuff become Ork models. LOL [/quote]

Hah, well any mistake can be made into "battle damage" but you can't fix Ork tech, lol. Anyway, thanks for your measurements. I will probably play it by eye, too, but I just needed some idea of the proportions. I'll try to get a thread up tonight for my puppy if I can get my webcam to take high detailed images, but so far no luck. Thankfully, there's always the internet to save me.

Thanks for all the help,

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Here's the poor showing for this week.

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1117013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1117013.page GMT
No worries, Blackadder, at least it's [i]some[/i] progress, as a suppose to none. Not that I'm saying that you don't deliver constant updates of this project - Far from it, in fact. Since you began, you've managed to keep up a really good level of dedication and progress. Look at it this way: The end is almost within reach now!

I'd imagine that it's almost time to mount the barrels onto the main weapon part. Are you going to just glue them straight on, or reinforce the bond by adding something more? Perhaps this isn't necessary... Well, I'm sure that I'll find out soon - Keep to the Emperor's word!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1117896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1117896.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1118708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1118708.page GMT
No worries, Blackadder, at least it's [i]some[/i] progress, as a suppose to none. Not that I'm saying that you don't deliver constant updates of this project - Far from it, in fact. Since you began, you've managed to keep up a really good level of dedication and progress. Look at it this way: The end is almost within reach now!

I'd imagine that it's almost time to mount the barrels onto the main weapon part. Are you going to just glue them straight on, or reinforce the bond by adding something more? Perhaps this isn't necessary... Well, I'm sure that I'll find out soon - Keep to the Emperor's word![/quote]

I'd wondered about that myself so today I just bit the bullet and glued them on with Testor's Blue label plastic glue which I find works better with plasticard that the red label original toxic glue surprise surprise. The bond is super strong and after a minute I could bearly nudge the two guns into a more refined alignment. The gun barrels are so light only a few grams each, that the glue joint alone is more than adequate.

Pictures later,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1119040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1119040.page GMT Im astounded by your attention to detail. I cant even imagine working on one project for that length of time!
keep up the great work!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1119218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1119218.page GMT I tought i should put a comment on your blog, it's so overall well done detail, quality and mechanized (hydraulics and such, dont think i would have made all those functionable) wise.
I wish you best luck on the Blackadder Titan , and keep up the great work!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1119614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1119614.page GMT
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Oh you mean:

[img]http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/mediawiki/images/f/fd/Aquilla.jpg[/img]


Not yet.

E.B.[/quote]

Man I had to do this just to take up Jabba's challenge. LOL

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Look at the cylinder blocks above the forward toe pistons Jabba.

The suffering from eye strain Blackadder

BTW I use 'Opera' as a browser which gives me +300% or greater if needs be magnification.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1126675.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1126675.page GMT FW ones. My disapointment with the quality of FW was cemented when I got my titan. In addiction to horribly shift molds, vent problems, air bubbles, there were also many small details (rivets in particular) which came out poorly. Now I wish I would have just shaved off all of the original ones and replaced them. Technically your reproduction is incorrect in that your rivets are larger-and all present, but it looks so much better in my opinion. Great work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1127924.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1127924.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1127943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1127943.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1128035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1128035.page GMT FW ones. My disapointment with the quality of FW was cemented when I got my titan. In addiction to horribly shift molds, vent problems, air bubbles, there were also many small details (rivets in particular) which came out poorly. Now I wish I would have just shaved off all of the original ones and replaced them. Technically your reproduction is incorrect in that your rivets are larger-and all present, but it looks so much better in my opinion. Great work.[/quote]

Gad! my rivets are too big well the trash man may not be that fussy, Guess I'll start over.


I'm really over my head on this one yadda, yadda, yadda.............

Blackadda

Yeah right it is what it is.


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[quote=exponent]Im utterly speechless - I should have been working, but instead i was reading this amazing project log :O
Im astounded by your attention to detail. I cant even imagine working on one project for that length of time!
keep up the great work![/quote]

I do have other concurrent projects: raking leaves, cleaning the moss off the roof, helping my son with his scratchbuilt Thunderhawk, loading the dishwasher etc.

O yeah and of course work,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1128392.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1128392.page GMT
Blackadder

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Anyway... Well done to have got to this stage! Praise be to the Omnisiah! Wait... Blackadder must be the Machine God! Then what does that make Buldrick? Well, I'd going to go for the Emperor myself... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1131767.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1131767.page GMT BTW, your new image website host thingy seems to be displaying quite small pictures. Not that it reduces the awesome rating or anything.

Anyway... Well done to have got to this stage! Praise be to the Omnisiah! Wait... Blackadder must be the Machine God! Then what does that make Buldrick? [/quote]

Best kept secret... Baldrick is the Emperor!

Click on the image for the full sized display, the images are shrunk to fit your computer screen. If you DL them you get the full size as well.

Well I can assume someone might want to DL them,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1131781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1131781.page GMT
I swear, sometimes I look at your photos and think you've just been playing an elaborate senseless prank. Great work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1132019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1132019.page GMT
You have inspironed us all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1133155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1133155.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1133191.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1133191.page GMT

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1134633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1134633.page GMT
Keep it going!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1135558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1135558.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1136003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1136003.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1143930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1143930.page GMT
any estimates on when you will finish construction?

DC]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1144591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1144591.page GMT
Nahh! It wasn't meant to walk.

I reject FW's reality and substitute my own,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145178.page GMT
"Yeah, you've done a great job, but seriously... That's just a fancy monument! How could it possibly walk?" kind o' thing. Well, I suppose it's 40k, so anything's possible. (Such as dwarfs in space for instance...)

++Thread hijack STOP!++ Anyways, all the best with getting this bit done this weekend. We look forward to seeing the results!

(P.S. I don't know whether this has been mentioned earlier, but do you prime your components after you've finished them? The grey model areas have always made me wonder about it...)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145241.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145241.page GMT
Many years ago I started priming my models with Krylon Sandable Grey Automotive Primer. It goes on thin, dries instantly and gives great coverage. The silly bast---s went and changed the nozzle so you can't spray as thin a coat and I'm using my last can with the old nozzle for Lucie. When that's empty I'm screwed.

EB


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BTW I still want to do the Dave Smith Warlord with full regalia and that is a believable rendering of an imperial titan.

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[quote=Cosmic] Good work! This should bulk up her lower legs a bit. [/quote]

[b]Hey wait a minute![/b] You still think the lower legs are too scrawny??? I though I licked that problem.

One doesn't tease the Blackadder with impunity

LOL

EB

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145299.page GMT Yes, it's actually 3mm. Hope these photos help with the angles. At first I thought it was based off of a square box, but the angle jig in the photo's is 90 degrees, they flare out father than I thought. The other photos I tried to take on the same plane as the Armour when possible.

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Sometimes I really hate the Dakka image servers, half finished uploads my ass.

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[quote=The_Blackadder]Many years ago I started priming my models with Krylon Sandable Grey Automotive Primer. It goes on thin, dries instantly and gives great coverage. The silly bast---s went and changed the nozzle so you can't spray as thin a coat and I'm using my last can with the old nozzle for Lucie. When that's empty I'm screwed.[/quote]
Is it a special design? I have bags full of different spray can nozzels, they can pop right on and off. That is how I make sure they stay clean between sprays.


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That is really weird, I answered your question a little while ago, but it never posted.....


29.5mm x 47mm]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1145644.page GMT mm but when I made the cardboard mockup the ankle pistons locked up because they hit the armour so not knowing the side skirts flaired at the back edge I widened the front panel to 35,0 X [u]~[/u] 50,0 mm adjusting the height proportionately. Now it looks too damned big and your information about the shin armour not being square in cross section may allow me to scale it back to the original size. If my guestimate was only off by 0,5 mm the whole model (With the exception of the waist block is fairly accurate.) Thanks for the information. You are a godsend Jabba.

BTW "greaves" is a good name for this piece of armour but 'griefs' would be more appropo.

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I've been watching this blog for quite some time now and I have to say that it's a superb piece of modelling. I doff my cap to you and will use your model as inspiration so that one day(!), I will get round to modelling a Ryza pattern Reaver in full Warmongers regalia!

Just a quick, Baldrick-esque cunning plan for you Re: the basecoat spray paint you use. you may already have tried this and I may be teaching you to suck eggs as it were (no offence intended if so) but you mentioned that they have stopped producing the cans with the fine spray nozzle. I was just wondering if they are similar cans to normal spray paint as I have often managed to inadvertantly pull the nozzle off the can when cleaning it which reveals the little plastic feeder tube underneath. Maybe you could pull the fine nozzle of one of the old cans and pop it onto the newer ones? Apologies again if you've already tried this and I'm stating the obvious.

Looking forawrd to seeing Lucie finished!

All the best,

tsd

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That's progress for you. Bah!

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1147458.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1147458.page GMT GW spray paint in shadow grey and catachan green. Even though my space wolves and IG armies still weren't painted after all that opportunity at least I had the chance!

Now its been taken away and replaced with a gimmicky, over priced, waste of time and paint spray gun!!

Oh well, I must be getting old.

But your titan looks great. A crazy suggestion would be that you could have hinges on the greaves, so that they 'flap' over the ankle joins to give you more movement.

I know, I'm crazy!! But you can't do something like that with Resin, why not do it when scratchbuilding!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1148752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1148752.page GMT
I know, I'm crazy!! But you can't do something like that with Resin, why not do it when scratchbuilding!![/quote]

Not such a crazy suggest at all and I am thinking along similar lines. These pantloons just appear a tad too big still and if I shrink them smaller they will inhibit the movement. These segmented panels do appear lend themselves to opening when the various components are flexing. Do you think they are segmented for that purpose and if so what is the purpose of the waist and thigh armour segments?

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The grooves look about done and the armour as you see it is just clipped in place for now.

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Any decorations will be added after it's been painted.

thanks for the reply,

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BTW, What's the diameter of the rubber electrical conduit. I just found some very flexible tight spiral metal coils from a thermostat probe that is slightly less than a quarter inch in diameter and would look fantastic for electrical conduit.

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Actually, looking through the bits, I've got two three inch lengths of both styles, you want em?
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I though Lucy is in the skies with diamonds?

Most impressive and extravagant build, Blackadder.. a shame it isen't motorised so you could radio-control it on the tabletop.. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1171358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1171358.page GMT
Actually, looking through the bits, I've got two three inch lengths of both styles, you want em?
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That's a mighty generous offer check your PM.

Thx, Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1171444.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1171444.page GMT FW original paint job.

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I've seen a lot of colour schemes and I like this one the best. As of right now I've only the void projectors, exhaust stacks, the cable conduit and connectors, the cockpit windows and head armour and a bit more detail on the armament and I'll be ready to paint. I'm hoping to get the void projectors and exhausts completed tomorrow.

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I think BoLS has a lot of the titan legion color schemes, I've been trying to figure what to do with my reaver. I really like the stock reaver paint job, but I just feel one should distinguish their titan from the FW painted examples.

Are you magnetizing the void shields? Ever since I saw someone do that I was jealous, I'll be sure to put that on my reaver.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1186048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1186048.page GMT
Not really, I just copy work. when it comes to originality I'm a rather unimaginative basic fellow witness my tank colour schemes.

[quote]I think BoLS has a lot of the titan legion color schemes, I've been trying to figure what to do with my reaver. I really like the stock reaver paint job, but I just feel one should distinguish their titan from the FW painted examples.[/quote]

Being different for difference sake isn't necessarily a good thing. I'm not going to copy every last detail I just like the yellow and grey motif.

[quote]Are you magnetizing the void shields? Ever since I saw someone do that I was jealous, I'll be sure to put that on my reaver.[/quote]

"Magnetize the void shields?" ????

The void shield projectors are those four little mushroom shaped protuberances atop the generator housings. How they generate a three dimensional field I can't imagine. I picture a void shield as something like a clock bell jar
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encasing the vehicle (Kind of like the shields in the original 'War of the Worlds' movie with Gene Barry.)
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which in the case of a model would save a lot of dusting. 'Chuckle'

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1186694.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1186694.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1214375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1214375.page GMT GW paint?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1214483.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1214483.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1214836.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1214836.page GMT
The greaves are removable for ease of painting and maintenance and are just pinned in place with 0.060" plastic rods and sockets.

Blackadder

Lucie appears to have a hulking appearance of late. After all the concern that the legs looked too flimsy it turns out that they appear more massive than that of the original.

That's alight I like my females with a healthy set of gams.

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Taking some pictures later but really not much to show for such a long hiatus.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279041.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279051.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279051.page GMT Wow.
Blackadder, your work is amazing you should be proud ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279516.page GMT Anyway, could we get some pics of the filled cockpit? Oh wait, right, there will be. But with that airbrush, the problem with that sort of stuff is it always ends up reappearing once you get the new one, lol. Well, continue with the good work]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1279967.page GMT
I did a major revamping of the roof panel on the cockpit because once the brow trim was added the overhang did not look thick enough. I added another millimetre to the thickness which still isn't as much as the original but I think gives the head a bit more sleek overall appearance. See I'm not slavish in my attempt to copy, (Yeah, Right). My rationale is; this is the Lucius MarkII version. Anyone who has an original FW product can readily see that I widened the hull on my version and of course faired in the void generator housings into the top engine compartment. I straightened the fore to aft angle on the side of the carapace and lowered the overall height the void generator housing projects above the carapace. These were not mistakes as the changes greatly please me aesthetically. If I were to built a FW 'hound I would attempt to incorporate these amendments into that model as well.

The void shield projectors and the exhaust stacks (Thats the little cylindrical pieces strung on the wire for painting in the foreground.) are finished as well. I still debating whether to put the rivet detail on the greaves. They look so tiny compared to the massiveness of the panels on the original.

I'm using Ambroid thin cement now and I must say its a lot more volatile than Tamiya. It evaporates before I can set the rivets so I have to glue them one at a time whereas with Tamiya I could put a few dots of liquid and set two or three rivets before it dried. A word to the wise "Don't leave the cap loose on the vial of Ambroid overnight or you will have significantly less the next day."

I used the empty Tamiya bottle to store the Ambroid glue as its less prone to tipping and the applicator brush is much better for applying fine detail. The brush is the main reason I stopped using Ambroid years ago.

Any suggestions or critiques will be welcome because I plan to paint this sucker this weekend,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285563.page GMT
You're attention to detail is phenomenal, and by virtue of that, the end result is nothing short of spectacular.

I've kept my home cooked projects limited to terrain, but this has really made me want to go and create something huge. Unfortunately, I'm not sure i'd have the patience, know-how or skill to endeavor on such a project. - Curse my Shovel-like hands!

The big question now is, after getting her painted up, what's next?
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You're attention to detail is phenomenal, and by virtue of that, the end result is nothing short of spectacular.

I've kept my home cooked projects limited to terrain, but this has really made me want to go and create something huge. Unfortunately, I'm not sure i'd have the patience, know-how or skill to endeavor on such a project. - Curse my Shovel-like hands!

The big question now is, after getting her painted up, what's next?
[/quote]

It's no secret I covet the Dave Smith Warlord titan.

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/WARLORD%20TITAN/Favorite009-1.jpg[/IMG]

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/WARLORD%20TITAN/

I think I'll have a go at that.

And I still have that Thunderhawk on back burner

[IMG]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/The_Blackadder/thunderhawk.jpg[/IMG]

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285710.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285715.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1285936.page GMT FW model next to it for detailed comparison.

Good luck for the paint job, you should take the time needed to do Lucie justice, 1 week-end sounds rushed if you want to do something more than a basecoat.

Anyway, wan't wait to see the painted Titan, and good luck for the Warlord build.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286028.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286044.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286044.page GMT WIP of Lucie...

For the Emprah!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286803.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286923.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1286923.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1294736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1294736.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1294741.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1294741.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1305446.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1305446.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1305802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1305802.page GMT [/quote]

[quote=jabbakahut]I want them![/quote]

ASAP and post them here if you please. It keeps this thread alive whilst I practice painting Lucie. There seems to be an interest.

Thanks,

EB
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Some are blurry ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1307785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1307785.page GMT [/quote]

Thanks for telling me I thought my eyes were going bad. Great photos and a lot of detail I haven't seen before. So you purchased a Thunderhawk kit or did you buy it on ebay? I'll see if these whet my son's appetite to continue the build. Well the paint should be dry, time for another coat.

EB

Whoops sorry,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1311075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1311075.page GMT ccw, melta cannon and apoc launcher family with money FTW. If you need some more detail shots of the thunderhawk tell me what area and what parts there are so many parts. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1312349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1312349.page GMT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120523808391&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Have all my endeavours been for naught??? Has the bottom dropped out of the Warhound market as well?

Even I would fork over $250 bucks (including shipping) to possess an original even if it had fallen off a table (anything can be repaired unless its melted)

A greatly distraught Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1313898.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1313898.page GMT
Thanks for telling me I thought my eyes were going bad. Great photos and a lot of detail I haven't seen before. So you purchased a Thunderhawk kit or did you buy it on ebay? I'll see if these whet my son's appetite to continue the build. Well the paint should be dry, time for another coat.

EB [/quote] PLEASE DON"T QUOTE LARGE WALLS OF TEXT, GOSH DARN IT!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1313922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1313922.page GMT
Thanks for telling me I thought my eyes were going bad. Great photos and a lot of detail I haven't seen before. So you purchased a Thunderhawk kit or did you buy it on ebay? I'll see if these whet my son's appetite to continue the build. Well the paint should be dry, time for another coat.

EB [/quote] PLEASE DON"T QUOTE LARGE WALLS OF TEXT, GOSH DARN IT![/quote]
Bla bla bla, listen to my caplock text....


@blackadder: That does seem like an incredible price, but you have more experience stripping and reclaiming models, I've never done that. I see it as as a 250$ gamble.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1313941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1313941.page GMT
Thanks for telling me I thought my eyes were going bad. Great photos and a lot of detail I haven't seen before. So you purchased a Thunderhawk kit or did you buy it on ebay? I'll see if these whet my son's appetite to continue the build. Well the paint should be dry, time for another coat.

EB [/quote] PLEASE DON"T QUOTE LARGE WALLS OF TEXT, GOSH DARN IT![/quote]

it was not a wall of text it was a wall of pics and it is his thread by the way ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1314616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1314616.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1314637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1314637.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1314807.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1314807.page GMT
I'm a bit disappointed in the metallic paint on the legs but as everything is only the base coat I should be able to rectify the shininess.

Anyway here she is showing her colours. Please bear in mind this is only the basic paint. The detailing will begin when I get the fine tip assembly.

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I likes 'em front heavy but not toppling over front heavy.

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I've just spent half an hour speeding through this build, I've got to say it is just amazing! I can't believe the lengths you have gone to to recreate this warhound. You must love constructing models!

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Would you believe:

A telescoping feature I incorporated into the Mark II version so Lucie can see over obstacles...

A launching motar to propel the main body into orbit if the battle is going poorly.

A device to make Lucie seem bigger than she is to frighten off larger titans.

A transparent ploy to garner responses?

All of the above?

None of the above?

Jeez Jabba ya gotta give me a little credit. Actually the pivot shaft is a close tolerance fit so the body doesn't wobble and a few layers of paint prevented the body from seating all the way down.

I can't believe you'd think I made a mistake like that! LOL

The cut down a peg Blackadder

"Down a peg" get it?

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1331735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1331735.page GMT WH 40K) said it looked awesome! Though she thought it looked like an Wall-E

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I can't believe you'd think I made a mistake like that! LOL[/quote]
No, I never thought it was really, just looked so odd, yet it also looked like it belonged that way. Are you just going to force it down when you're ready?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1333305.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1333305.page GMT
Great to be back on line again.

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My local art supply house has let me down. They promised to have the fine tip assembly for my airbrush in Friday last but came a cropper. Monday is my best hope for continuing the painting. On a brighter note I did paint the armament; pictures to follow..............

Now where did I put that Hawkeye (Kodak (®))

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1349577.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1349577.page GMT FW offering. The Carapace will be likewise highlighted and a subtle coat of blue to add depth would not be amiss. The metallic paint on the legs and feet was a total mistake and I efforting to remedy that.

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Wow, you are old, a dime?

So you don't paint with any acrylic?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1352245.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1352245.page GMT
Hope I don't break a hip going down stairs to get it.

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[b]Flo-Quill[/b] railroad colours remember that.

[color=red][b]WARNING[/b][/color] [b]Known by the state of California to cause cancer in white mice!!! [/b]

Hell! [u]Everything[/u] causes cancer in white mice.

Anyhow I got my 'fine' tip assembly for the antique Badger and tried it out today and here is the result. Naturally I didn't practice because what I do first always comes out best and it's all downhill from there so I did the yellow parts mainly because I was scared to do them. I used Testors flat yellow and added red blemishes with ModelMasters British red which is almost a burgundy colour and goes on the yellow in what appears to me a close match to the FW yellow headed Warhound.

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Okay so I'm fairly good at modeling but I fairly suck at painting.

Blackadder

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There are whitish patches still to be added that should tone down the vividness of the colours. All in the course of due time my dear Sir.

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I just couldn't wait to peel all that masking tape off. I had to see what the damages from over spray were and see how the colours complement each other. Not too bad but a hint of steely blue I think is in order for the carapace and hull. I'm rather pleased with the yellow armor, a few touch ups here and there are needed and that's all. I had to reassemble Lucie to show her at her best; a waste of valuable painting time I know.

Blackadder

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You didn't answer my previous query... Do you never use acrylic? Or just through the airbrush you don't?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1372517.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1372517.page GMT FW pattern, but it does looking very striking.

You didn't answer my previous query... Do you never use acrylic? Or just through the airbrush you don't?[/quote]

I don't remember any guff, you just said I could be more original than to copy the FW model. Well I could but my tendency is to follow a strict military motif which would be a basic somber colour or earth tone camouflage neither of which would be very striking on such a flamboyant vehicle. I figured if I didn't like the yellow colour I could always change the armour to a military colour with a minimum of effort. Well I do like the yellow so I'll stick with it for the nonce.

I had some bad experience with acrylic when I used it to paint some vintage 1860 rolling stock for my Civil war HO railroad. even with the airbrush the cover was so poor that to get the right shade coincidentally yellow on the passenger cars I used so many coats the siding detail was obliterated. I resolved then to never use acrylics again unless I was painting a room. Quite possibly acrylics have improved since then but I'll stick with what I know best.

BTW I have the most extensive set of Civil war engines and cars quite possibly in the world including a scratch built conversion of a Mantua 'General' to the original Rogers model as she rolled out of the Paterson Locomotive works in 1855. I'll take a picture of it if you're interested. That also took a long time to built but mainly because the parts were all white metal and brass and soldered together.

Thanks for the response,

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Blackadder

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I will be painting the hull and carapace the same colour and pattern and I'm concerned that it will be too busy or too blue. I looks right in the pictures but as you can guess I hesitate to commit as I only have one shot at getting it right.

The FW samples:


As you can see I'm spot on with the greaves. (Groan),

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Did you leave it so her legs are posable or did you have to lock them down for stability?

Lookin' awesome!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378686.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378686.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378753.page GMT FW style was more like diffused clouds, it actually looks spot on sir!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378832.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378832.page GMT
Mine doesn't even compare. Great Job. I don't think you can actually tell the difference between yours and the Forgeworld one.

That is the most Amazing Scratchbuild I have seen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378850.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1378850.page GMT FW catalog.

My posting of this thread was to inspire and demonstrate building techniques not to discourage builders Anthasu1. Not everyone is cursed with my particular brand of manic compulsion for which they should be truly grateful. I look forward to seeing your scratchbuilt posted.

Thanks for the replies,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1379701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1379701.page GMT FW paintjob on the greaves demonstrate two styles of spotting. I did mine likewise and prefer the mottled style to the spotty style.

BTW I've discovered that this paintjob is actually dedicated to a particular legion, that of the 'War Gryphons'(sic). Not being totally up on the 40K division of command I thought the titans were separate from individual legions and were under the command/control of the Adeptus Mechanicus anyway this is their unit emblem which match the unit colours with the model nicely:


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I would have preferred the model to be independent of any particular unit but I suppose it will have to do.

The rogue Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1379737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1379737.page GMT
I wouldnt worry about the warhound market. Ebay is a fickle mistress. Last year I got a jackal class for £170 on ebay then the following week managed to get another jack mint untouched for £200 on CDO.

Since then I've seen them on ebay going for above RRP (i'll never figure why FW stuff does that).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1381580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1381580.page GMT FW models are to assemble.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1382090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1382090.page GMT FW model off of ebay that didn't have to be taken apart as it is invariably assembled wrong. Each piece then had to be cleaned, flash removed, filled, sanded, shaped, reassembled for proper fit and here's my bugaboo, painted. Of course I only bought derelicts but even well assembled models at first glance have grievous mistakes such as the recent Baneblades sold had some of the treads on backwards. I can only imagine how a tyro model builder could screw up the toes and legs on a Warhound.

Of course I am the anal retentive Blackadder

[i][b]]Wikipedia states,[/b]"The term anal retentive (also anally retentive), commonly abbreviated to anal, is used conversationally to describe a person with such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, and can be carried out to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. The term derives from Freudian psychoanalysis."[/i]

Not to be confused with the term arsehole which may or mayn't apply as well,

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At last a technical question I can handle (I hope). Bear in mind that I am not very proficient at air brushing and anyone who is more savvy in the use of this instrument feel free to amend or refute the following statements.

I used a very cheap gray primer base coat in a generic spray can I bought at Kmart called 'Fresh and Easy' I use this when I am painting lighter colours such as on the greaves, hull and carapace otherwise I use Krylon gray primer for a base on darker colours. I used Krylon white primer for the base coat under the yellow. They are all fast drying and can be painted over in a half hour if you're in a hurry but I wait until the next day as my nerves won't stand me rushing a paint job.

The best technique for spray with an airbrush or can of spray paint is to pass in only one direction starting just before the piece to be painted and holding the spray button until you pass off the piece. Keep the same distance from the piece throughout the pass i.e. don't swoop down in the center of the pass.

Two, three or more light passes is better than one heavy pass unless you like to have your paint sag and run like a tsunami wave which is an interesting effect but usually not for a fine model.

If you hold the sprayer too close to the work you may get a pebbling or orange peel effect and too far will give you a nice dusty appearance which is probably not desirable either.

On the greaves I had some relatively dark blue Model Masters (which I'll refer to as MM subsequently) petroleum flat paint into which I mixed a bit of MM gray and I airbrushed an extremely light coat on the seam and edge areas of the greaves at the smallest orifice I could push a 50/50 mix of paint through.

At this point I should say I have an antiquated Badger 350 airbrush and I used the recently acquired fine tip assembly. I used the medium tip for the yellow and rust colour on the rest of the armour.

The blue didn't completely cover the gray but there was a hint of blue in the center of the panels. I cleaned my airbrush religiously as it clogged frequently and left splatters if I wasn't careful even with mineral spirit thinner. I don't use acrylic paint but I have heard auto windshield washer fluid is the best thinner for water base paint not water and it's a million times cheaper the the commercial thinner.

I next mixed a lot of Testors flat white with the rest of the MM blue/gray mix and added more thinner. I adjusted the 'brush to the very finest setting I could and slightly tapped the button about 3 inches from the panels trying to make sure to keep the 'brush perpendicular to the work. I continued to do this letting the spray to dry (which was almost instantaneous) before I applied anymore paint until the blotches (spots started to merge but you could still see a hint of the base paint between the patches. I refined my technique on the second greave which gave an even better mottling pattern and I'll have to redo the first greave a bit so the match better. I still haven't the guts to attempt the carapace. I'll try that this weekend.

HTH,

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Hope the carapace turns out as good as the rest.

Looking forward to hearing how you get on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1384476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1384476.page GMT Sht]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1384514.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1384514.page GMT FW Warhound images posted above?

Thx,

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You can try by using a combination of Khomando Khaki, Desert Yellow and devlon mud wash and maybe somesort of subtle yellow in between the mixes....that would probably be your best bet on trying to achieve some thing similar. And as the others have said....there is a possibility that they have not used GW citidal paints, so it could be a tad difficult to duplicate it exactly.

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Then in a flurry of enthusiasm I cleaned the brush and proceeded to apply the highlighting coat. Working in panic mode for fear of a mistake I did the entire job before the six hour this morning and on the seventh I rested. I must confess I am pleased with the outcome. It looks much better that I had anticipated. Whether it meets with the expectations of my loyal posters is another but It's the best I could do.

Here are the preliminary pictures I may do a bit of touching up before removing the tape.

The emotionally spent Blackadder

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Like jabbakahut said: more organic then the original. You do realize that while you were resting on the 7th hour, there was an incident with an apple? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1389344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1389344.page GMT FW model especially for the carapace. It does indeed have an organic look to it and when I took it outside into natural light the whole thing had a 3D effect to it so you couldn't judge the distance to the surface of the paint. I've seen that effect before with shading of this sort. It all ties well into the bio-mechanical nature of the Warhound titans I made the spots smaller on the greaves but not noticeably so as the greave surfaces are so much smaller.

Glad you liked it,

Whew, I just peeled the tape off of the windows and armour bands around the carapace. All looks just fine except for a few scratches on one of the windows, hey It's a war machine! I may try some dry brushing of Citadel paints on the armour after some practice.

Blackadder


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[quote=CommissarKhaine]Looking good man, better then the greaves IMO.

Like jabbakahut said: more organic then the original. You do realize that while you were resting on the 7th hour, there was an incident with an apple? [/quote]

I use a PC.

The greaves got a little more work to bring them up to the carapace quality but I'm still keeping the size of the spots smaller so as not to look out of proportion on the greaves.

Are Titans green?

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EB[/quote]

can be. I'd personally just jump ship and make my own either gold, white, or an evil pink, but that's just what it turns into when you're me. Or maybe a churchly sepia or gray. either like the temples in the Imperium or the churches of the middle ages with buttresses, stone patterning, etc. But they can be so, yes to some]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1389750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1389750.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1390500.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1390500.page GMT LOL. They probably leave big carbon footprints. Is Algore anti 40K?

Thanks, It appears the carapace painting has been well received and since that is so I'll relate how I did it. Naturally I used an airbrush, in my case a Badger 350. I used the finest tip available for that rather basic airbrush and for the base coat a mixture of Floquil Flat Reefer Blue and Reefer Gray 50% and 50% thinner.

[url]http://www.traintekllc.com/library/Color%20Charts/Floquil_Enamels.pdf[/url]

I don't know if the Floquil paints are still available with a volatile spirit base but I had a few jars left from my railroading days. The problem with Floquil is that it really isn't compatible with mineral spirits so you can't store the leftover as it gets gummy in a day or so. You need their special thinner that's not available anymore. I gave the edges and the seams a light coat of the mix and a light misting to the center of the panels where I knew I would be applying the highlighting spots no point of wasting paint. After it was dry I thoroughly cleaned my brush and mixed Model Masters (MM) Blue and Gray with Testors Flat White 1 part to 3 parts to 5 and 50% thinner. Setting the brush to the smallest orifice I could draw paint through I tapped the trigger a couple of times per spot from about three inches from the surface never allowing the surface to really get wet. as soon as I could see a hint of wetness I moved to the other side and did the same to keep both sides symmetrical. It was then just a matter of keeping a hint of the base coat between the spots to achieve this effect which surprisingly looks 3D to me like those 3D computer generated images.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1391291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1391291.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1394740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1394740.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1394922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1394922.page GMT
I'm doing the crenelated trim on the carapace at the moment; I initially painted it gunmetal but I scraped it off, it looked too uniform. I've decided to hand rub in powdered graphite which gives me just the effect I'm looking for. Graphite is at least cheap, I get it by scraping pencil lead. Pictures to follow.

EB


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[quote=CitizenPrime]I would be abit nervous about using paints that are now out of print. What if Lucie chips a nail and needs a touchup??[/quote]

Yeah right good luck with that one considering Citadel changes the colours of their paint lineup the way they change their socks. Actually the Floquil paint was just used to mist the base coat on the carapace and greaves; I may have used a thimble full altogether. I have two almost full jars of it left about six ounces; plenty enough to do that Warlord titan if I so chose. as for the Model Master Paints, they're still in production (made by Testors as I just found out) and they haven't discontinued any of their colours. Take that GW.

EB ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1395219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1395219.page GMT
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You can't beat God for intelligent design.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1395341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1395341.page GMT
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it looks very much like the forgeworld varient ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1395988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1395988.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1396313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1396313.page GMT
That's the spirit. BTW anyone looking for a quick ready made head for a Reaver or Warlord sized titan my wife was tossing out this motorized plug in air freshener and I thought, "Damn what a great ready made Reaver or Warlord style head for a scratch built generic titan."

Gotta stop using that aluminum powder,

Blackadder
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I love found items which strike inspiration. I've got this joint thing that has me thinking of a Big Ork Dread. I've been keeping an eye out for anything that might work on a mega gargant, I really don't think there is anything much better than finding a perfect piece.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1396710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1396710.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1396969.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1396969.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1397325.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1397325.page GMT
Hey that is against the rules I thought they can't put that on the axles ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1397896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1397896.page GMT
I am so pleased I could burst and had to share this moment with you all.

Thanks for all your interest and support,

The ecstatic Blackadder

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Those are INTAKES I thought they were Void Generator cooling vents! Ya mean I gotta start all over???

Note to Capt. Gordino:

A terrorist disguised powerful explosives as a pack of Morley cigarettes and demonstrated its incredible power by exploding a piece of swamp in the Philippines.

EB

BTW I showed your benediction to Mrs Blackadder and she said, "No dice, You're stuck with what you got." Oh well when can I expect the pack of smokes?

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Hail to the Queen baby!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1402887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1402887.page GMT Keep going on the project though-I'm sure it'll turn out great]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1484294.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1484294.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1484391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1484391.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1484908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1484908.page GMT
I should start working on Lucie again this weekend.

EB

[quote=killteam63]Jesus H. Christ! That thing's huge!! [/quote]

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to? Lucie is approximately Warhound height i.e. 10.5" tall assuming the standard pose.

Please elaborate,

The Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1485945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1485945.page GMT [quote=killteam63]Jesus H. Christ! That thing's huge!! [/quote]

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to? Lucie is approximately Warhound height i.e. 10.5" tall assuming the standard pose.

Please elaborate,

The Blackadder[/quote]
Great, you're going to give the Adder a complex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1489233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1489233.page GMT
Funny you should write today as I just installed the projectors and exhaust stacks this morning. Lucie is ostensibly finished but there is still the weathering and some geegaw's to install i.e. skulls, banners, battle ribbons, and of course the unit flag(?) hanging from the waist armour. I plan to refurbish my son's battleboard as a backdrop and photo Lucie and my Superheavy tank company (too many for just a platoon) in action against an entrenched foe. The problem there is I believe my son has sold all his non-Imperium armies.

Thanks for the reply,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1489278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1489278.page GMT BFG's?

Someone asked for Lucie in a battlefield scene with figures for comparison. Well I repainted the old Battleboard and set up Lucie and the tanks etc. but my son must have all his armies with him at school; the only stuff left was pretty pitiful so heres Lucie and company advancing on some foe who in for a very bad day.

[url=http://j.imagehost.org/view/0778/0002855][img]http://j.imagehost.org/0778/0002855.jpg[/img][/url]

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[url=http://j.imagehost.org/view/0279/0002860][img]http://j.imagehost.org/0279/0002860.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://j.imagehost.org/view/0684/0002861][img]http://j.imagehost.org/0684/0002861.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://j.imagehost.org/view/0980/0002862][img]http://j.imagehost.org/0980/0002862.jpg[/img][/url]

Okay so I suck at picture taking,

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1498968.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1498968.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1498983.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1498983.page GMT GW bitz and they fit right in.

My son won't use them.

Go figure,

EB

BTW Lucie looks much too clean.

That will change.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499005.page GMT It looks amazing, like the real deal.

Looking forward to seeing more from you ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499059.page GMT
Blackadder, I'm speechless.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499351.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499351.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499632.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499819.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1499819.page GMT BFG = Big F-ing Gun]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1507060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1507060.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1512982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1512982.page GMT
I like the carapace, the mottling turned out better than I thought it would as well. LOL

Truth be know I also was very surprised how the carapace turned out. Painting is not my forte and it was with a great degree of trepidation that I embarked on that segment of the project. My choice of material for Lucie's construction would not allow for any removal of failed paint work and to continue to apply coat after coat would render her a shapeless blob.

There are those who thought I should have given Lucie to a professional painter but while I too had a lack of faith in my painting ability my innate sense of pride would not allow me to share credit with someone else for the accomplishment of Lucie and rather than do that I risked her destruction. Fortunately the outcome was satisfactory but I was in an acute state of anxiety for a couple of weeks during the painting from which I have yet to recover. LOL

I have still to apply the weathering, maybe this weekend, but next week I shall be away visiting my mum who has no internet access.

EB
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I think BoLS has a lot of the titan legion color schemes, I've been trying to figure what to do with my reaver. I really like the stock reaver paint job, but I just feel one should distinguish their titan from the FW painted examples.

Are you magnetizing the void shields? Ever since I saw someone do that I was jealous, I'll be sure to put that on my reaver.[/quote]

Jabba have you started on your Reaver and will you post a thread?

Still waiting an explanation on how to magnetize the void shields as well.

EB

[quote=rowan341]Wow... just wow... I mean I wouldn't have know that wasn't forge world if it weren't for the forge world lucius pattern windows being green.[/quote]

I looked all over for transparent green styrene and came up bupkis green yes but not styrene and I didn't want to take a chance the panes would fall out of the frames.

Clear looks okay.

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What's confusing about the void counters?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1534010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1534010.page GMT .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1555803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1555803.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1557634.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1557634.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1560023.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1560023.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1672722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1672722.page GMT [/quote]

Truthfully I have been under the weather for the past month and a half and not felt like modeling. I tried to do some work but couldn't get into it. this week is the first time I've felt anywhere near normal and will attempt to finish up Lucie and get started on my new project; the BOLS warlord Titan by Dave Smith.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300245.page

Never fear I have some big plans for Lucie soon as I get my butt in gear.

[quote=mindfield]fantastic piece of work, inspiring though doubtful if it could be replicated [/quote]

Certainly not replicated by me anyway, once is enough.

EB
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Not yet but I shall as soon as I complete the weathering and thanks again for giving them to me,

Blackadder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1677276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1677276.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1682041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1682041.page GMT

Awesome build. I'd be hard pressed to spot it for a scratch build.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1682047.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1682047.page GMT
Lucie looks great though! I need to find the patience to do this one day...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1682131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1682131.page GMT
Lucie looks great though! I need to find the patience to do this one day...[/quote]

It's an optical illusion much like the notorious, "Face on Mars". It is in fact one of those bitz that are used to make the model more realistic looking by busying up the surface and is part of the original casting. This one looks like a canteen with two notches at the 11:00 and 1:00 o'clock positions.

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Lucie looks great though! I need to find the patience to do this one day...[/quote]

omg your right thats crazy haha

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Great attention to detail, sir.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1735974.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1735974.page GMT
Most of the hard work has been done i.e. eliminating the pitfalls and boondoggles of construction such as my failed attempts at building workable toes, knee joints, and waist and ankle joint sockets until I found a viable solution to fully articulated appendages. Of course movable joints aren't necessary and I find that I leave Lucie in almost the same pose all the time anyway but it is nice to be able to reposition the appendages if needs be.

As far as dimensions I hesitate to give them as for all I know Lucie may be horribly outsized or diminutive and while this doesn't bother me too much it may others who plunk their scratchbuilt along side a genuine article and are subsequently razed for error in scale.

No one I know is rich enough to afford a real one so I have little fear of such a comeuppance.

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I saw your photo and just had to do this to it. I hope you don't mind.

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EDIT: sorry, I assume you were talking to me @Whalemusic ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1738450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1738450.page GMT
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Most of the hard work has been done i.e. eliminating the pitfalls and boondoggles of construction such as my failed attempts at building workable toes, knee joints, and waist and ankle joint sockets until I found a viable solution to fully articulated appendages. Of course movable joints aren't necessary and I find that I leave Lucie in almost the same pose all the time anyway but it is nice to be able to reposition the appendages if needs be.

As far as dimensions I hesitate to give them as for all I know Lucie may be horribly outsized or diminutive and while this doesn't bother me too much it may others who plunk their scratchbuilt along side a genuine article and are subsequently razed for error in scale.

No one I know is rich enough to afford a real one so I have little fear of such a comeuppance.

EB[/quote]

It was kind of a joke, yours just has so much detail I'm not sure anything my hands could come up with would look half as gorgeous =P]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1738772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1738772.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1739281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1739281.page GMT FW model plus I believe FW would take a dim view of me selling copies of their artwork for profit but all the steps are there to reproduce it. There's something very satisfying in knowing you did it yourself.

Man the thought of reproducing all those toes makes me shudder.

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The red objects are plastic bead headed straight pins (metal would be better). You drill a recess into the rod end head and insert the straight pin. Glue on the cap and drill an tight hole into the mount plate. Repeat the process on the other end and voila a gimbal mounted telescoping hydraulic cylinder. These have a reltively long travel and are used on the ankle gimbals and the waist to hip gimbals and are primarily used for steering and adjusting the feet to variations in the terrain.

The other style mounting for the hydraulic cylinders on the Warhound is the double rod end. This is the most common mounting and consists of a pin or axle through the mount end of the cylinder and a pin through the rod end of the piston. These are heavy duty cylinders and actually support the weight of the vehicle. They have a very short travel and are thick in cross section.

The toes use a variation on the rod end mount called a base mounted cylinder or trunnion mount.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1759607.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1759607.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1762293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1762293.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1762531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1762531.page GMT

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Beautiful warhound man! cant wait for the planned warlord.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1767722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1767722.page GMT
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Now I need to find another one but wonder of wonders I nailed the width of the appendage to within a quarter of a millimeter. Close enough for government work even if it is for the Emperor.

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[quote=tony_nids_10]I love your titan! Where did you get all the measurements?[/quote]

Incidentally, bitz are a great way to reinforce your measurements. It's a pity I didn't realize that there were so many of GW kit pieces incorporated in the FW castings when I started Lucie; it would have saved me a lot of rebuilding. While I can't actually give out dimensions to be fair to the originators; it's not my fault that they took shortcuts in the designing of the prototype.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1826248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1826248.page GMT
I took most of the summer off from modeling as I just got tired of doing it.

This weekend I started detailing Lucie and my first project was the daunting Griffin Logo. I calculated the proper size for my particular greaves was 1.25 inches by 0.82 inches. This approximates the area covered by the FW Mark Tait model. The direction Mark's Griffin faces always bothered me so I reversed mine to face left purely for asthetics mind you lest my political affiliation be misconstrued.

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Now a question; what is the significance of the capital 'T' on the left greave and is there any clear representation available for the drapery hanging from the waist armour.

How's that hope and change working out for you?

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Pretty sure the 'T' is representative of the Legio Titanica branch of the AdMech.

The drapery will just be personal heraldry and kill markings, sagas or whatever, see if i can find a pic from one of my IAs for you...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1906358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1906358.page GMT To answer your question, the T is the symbol of the Collegia Titanicus (Not sure it's spelled right) And it is the symbol that essentially shows the unity of all the loyal titan legions. Kinda like the inquisitorial I, and then the legion markings of course shows the different legions apart but you knew that. The reason that it is added to the lucius warhound I suspect is that they re-entered the T in the iconography when they released the mars pattern warhound, and also the reaver.
The T is also displayed on the titanicus eagle that I seem to remember is a sign of the union between mars and terra although the design is different then the normal imperial aquilla [img]http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee354/SteffenSJensen/Mighty%20Reaver/040920101942.jpg[/img]. The Jackal class warhound has a resin version of this symbol included.

The banner is the titans personal banner, and the way they are arranged is mostly the same throughout the legions, the BoLS titan sheets include the banners http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2008/07/bols-logo-sheet-archive.html so you should be able to create one for your titan by replacing some text and the legion symbol from one of the loyalist titan banners

Hope this helps.

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Aaaargggh, damn ninjas!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1906401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1906401.page GMT
Canisbellum Robustus anyone?



EB

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A lot of the same images in this lot.

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Would be really awesome to see some pics in daylight without flash ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1925052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1925052.page GMT FW model, at least all the toes match ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1925173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1925173.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1926497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1926497.page GMT FW's otherwise beautiful design.

Note that the toes do not twist to maintain full contact with the ground in this particular pose. Arrow D

This is because there is not sufficient gap 'Arrow C' between the toe bases to allow this twist.

FW acknowledged this in the base of the toe design but didn't splay the toes sufficiently to allow for it purely for asthetic purposes as when I duplicated the toes I found allowing for the twist made the toes look ungainly.

Note the piston position at 'arrow A'; t is fully compressed. At 'arrow B1' it is fully extended likewise at the 'arrow B2' the piston is fully extended but the toe does not contact the ground. This is because the cylinder is too short for the piston travel.

Reworking to allow for these imperfections would distort the look of the toes too much and change the overall appearance of the model but I have seen poses on the net that discounted these restrictions and gave the most ludicrous appearance to the stance.

Note that the stance in the crushed Rhino pose show a piston extended to such a degree that it is at an angle to the cylinder.

Also the foot pad angle is such that the ball has disengaged from the socket in the gimbal joint.

While a dramatic pose this clearly is beyond the capabilities of the mechanism.




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I must remember to look into these sorts of questions...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1928186.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1928186.page GMT
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I stand corrected it is my model that is in error. It appears there is sufficient space between the toes in the FW model to allow for twisting of the toe bases. I didn't consult Jabba's excellent manual

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/2670070/JGTBSv2

when gluing on the toes otherwise I would have incorporated the twist-ability into my model. I'll save that rework for another day when time hangs heavy should I live that long.

The miraculous disappearing piston length (into the fourth dimension I suppose) still stands.....

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I think humans actually have a milder version of the ork's 'believe sincerely in it and it will happen'. How else do you convince a thunderhawk to actually fly?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1934629.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1934629.page GMT
Also, I agree, bending the toes a bit too much should look fine if you do it right. The model will need some serious cutting and rebuilding. But a titan griping something in its foot, like a bird talon, would look cool. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1936093.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1936093.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1936355.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/1936355.page GMT
I used my old standby that I used on model railroad rolling stock i.e. Graphite scrapped from a soft lead pencil and automotive windshield washer fluid. I added some Tin Bitz just to keep the FW flavor. I liberally spread the mixture on with a wide flat fine haired brush until the whole thing looked like a disgusting mess. Then before the fluid dried I brushed the whole area with a soft tooth brush until the fluid evaporated. If it doesn't come out to your expectations, slather on some more wiper fluid. The beauty of this technique is you can change it if you don't like the result.

Below is the initial result and I can't say I'm displeased with the outcome but the pictures are a bit more coppery than the actual model. I pictured the megabolter along side of the aged and weathered turbolaser for comparison and the greaves and waste /hip armour is also done but not to the degree that the lascannon is. I can't decide which I prefer.

These came out satisfactory so tomorrow I'll apply the same technique to the rest of the model.

EB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2051720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2051720.page GMT FW Warhound from a glance; even from a close inspection! I eagerly look forward to what Lucie will look like when she's completed - and how close that is!

I can't honestly criticize you as it seems your understanding and expierience of weathering is far greater than mine. As for the TurboLaser/MegaBolter/main armour question, I'd strongly suggest that you go with the TurboLaser's degree of weathering for all of the armour. It has far more depth and just looks so much more... real! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2051773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2051773.page GMT But 560$ is too much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2051776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2051776.page GMT
I agree Cosmic, I'm going with the more intense weathering.

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You've done an amazing job and it looks great!
The scheme isn't my favorite but you've done a great job with it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2058072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2058072.page GMT
I really feel I've been procrastinating letting this go for a few months but I couldn't bring myself to administer paint until I had psyched myself up to the task. This wasn't the time to rush into as it could only be done once. i experimented with a lot of weathering techniques, some very complex and for the life of me I can't say I see any benefit to a lot of steps especially using "fixative" and "clearcoats". Mainly they just make the paint look too thick and obliterate the fine detail. On a small figure that may be okay but since I omitted a lot of detail on Lucie as it is I didn't think I could afford to diminish what there was of it.

Lucie has a uniform base coat of gray automotive sandable primer, a coat of white primer on the head, and body armour because I made a mistake and needed a lighter base coat for the yellow bits. I used Testors flat yellow with an airbrush to paint the head and body armour.

The legs and feet were gray primer with a wash of graphite (shaved pencil lead), washer fluid and "tinbitz" after which I rubbed in some copper powder for highlights.

Foda_Bett; I did solicit colouring suggestions but of all the iterations of the Lucius Warhound schemes I always preferred this one and I'd be damned if I was just going to go with shades of gray as my gut feelings dictated.

Thank God I didn't have to decide on a Mars pattern theme; there isn't one scheme that I like.

More images and damn me if she still doesn't looks blue in flash pictures. I antiqued her last night; took some photos early this morning 4:00AM and rushed to post them. I used a wash of Citadel "gunmetal", powdered graphite and windshield washer fluid to thin the paint, smeared it on and worked it in with a tooth brush, stiff bristle 1/2" flat and a fan blender for the hard to reach places. The hull under the carapace looks a bit too gray but that should be amendable with some Windex and or washer fluid.

The shield projectors and exhausts are washed with "tinbits" and washer fluid.

God help me I have done the deed,

The Blackadder

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At long last I have installed the power cables to the underside of the head, er cockpit, er command deck. I wanted to keep the head removable for repair and modification and I stumbled on the idea to make the power cables plug in so they can be disconnected regularly.

I took advantage of the 'Evergreen' tubing telescoping properties and built up some male plugs to fit into the sockets previously fabricated soooo long ago although at the time I had no inkling of what I would even use for power conduit (which was so graciously donated by Jabba ka Hutt) and are the only truly FW items on Lucie. The rubber cable lent itself well to drilling with a fine pin drill bit and subsequently a 1/16th inch drill bit. I cyan-acitate glued 1/16th rod into the hole and added the appropriate sleeves to build the plug into a snug fitting end to fit into the connecting sleeve.

After waiting for the glue to dry I actually went on a customer call whilst I was waiting; below is the result.

Fully detachable conduits with very little evidence that they can be disconnected.

Man if i could only work this fast full time I could build dozens of these babies.

The indolent Blackadder ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2139102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2139102.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2139809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2139809.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2143028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2143028.page GMT
Let me state that Lucie looks fantastic with her gen-u-wine FW accouterments and I am forever in your debt for your generous contribution.

Lucie suffered some battle damage last month and broke a middle toe on her right foot. Repairing her was difficult as I still wanted the toe to function. I'm happy to report the repair went very well and Lucie is still ambulatory with nary a sign that the repair was made thanks to 'METALSET A4' Military Grade Epoxy Resin Cement. Lucie could not have been manufactured as she is without this stuff.

Blackadder ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2244232.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2244232.page GMT *Stomps off*

Nice work!
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I think you will find that the lack of replies is due to the quietness of the boards at this time of the year...Damn Christmas! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2245121.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2245121.page GMT
You and the guy named Foda are my inspiration on this scratchbuilding endeavor, good job man! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2246073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2246073.page GMT IRL.

I jsut love the look of the Vulcan Megabolter on a Titan.


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looking good! You make me feel like crap now. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2247320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2247320.page GMT
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Oh, and merry Christmas.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2261615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2261615.page GMT
Fleas navidog

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Check it out:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/372703.page#2884176]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2890178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/2890178.page GMT FW) to complement the neglected Lucie; with the promise to be arriving in 10 14 days. I'll be comparing Lucie to my own FW Warhound to see where I went wrong and I'll be using this production model to create a scrtachbuilt Mars pattern vehicle based on Lucie but not articulated. Too much work.

It's noteworthy that there are only two weapons options offered with the Chaos Warhound. Were there ever any more or do I have to purchase Mars pattern weapons and Nurgle them up for Lilith? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/3776202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/3776202.page GMT
Nah, they only chaosed up the vulcan and plasma blastgun im afraid.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/3776468.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226296/3776468.page GMT