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Later, Raef takes Russ and Craig on a journey into his discoveries while expereimenting with Historical gaming.

All that and our usual 'not too horrible' humor, with features such as:

- When Wives Attack
- Rapid Fire
- The Hollywood Minute
- Contests
- & More

Give it a listen here: http://www.TheD6Generation.com and please let us know what you think!


Link to discussion about last episode:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/227734.page

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/548530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/548530.page GMT LOL, "Is it a welsh thing?"

Respect!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/548681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/548681.page GMT Half way through this episode I was somewhat fed up with [i]yet another[/i] infomercial interview, but then you came back at the end with one of the best discussions you have had in a long time. Applause to Raef in particular.


And why did you not bring up the subject of the "generic sci-fi" counters set? It is obviously intended primarily for 5th edition 40K without ever acknowledgiing and AFAIK GF9 does not sponsor your show, so I think you could have grilled them (in a nice way ) a little on that topic. Maybe Raef could talk a little about IP in a future show, related to this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549181.page GMT 40K without ever acknowledgiing and AFAIK GF9 does not sponsor your show, so I think you could have grilled them (in a nice way ) a little on that topic. Maybe Raef could talk a little about IP in a future show, related to this.[/quote]

What is the controversy around the "generic sci-fi" counter set? Is there some juicy gossip I'm missing out on? Enquiring minds want to know!


[b]About Interviews: [/b] I LOVE talking to folks in the industry. I always have. I think it is interesting to get the know the folks who make the products we use. From game designers, to event organizers, to manufactureres big and small. I think it's neat to see how they got started, and how they stay successful. Of course they plug their products, just like Harrison Ford plugs his latest movie on "The Tonight Show", but I still think it's neat to get to know the folks behind the companies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549272.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549272.page GMT IG sweetness until I've painted all my current guys, no new Lizardmen until I've dug out those 1/48th scale WWII models and made a diorama, nothing.

So how about it? Care to make a similar commitment? I mean, after all, it was in your segment...

Great show again, guys. I actually enjoy the fact that the podcast has become rather long. It's still full of content, and it really makes work go faster. Thanks.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549384.page GMT What is the controversy around the "generic sci-fi" counter set? Is there some juicy gossip I'm missing out on? Enquiring minds want to know!
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I think what Avian's saying is that GF9 made a set of "generic sci-fi" counters that are really only useful for 40k. It was a way of making products for GW without having to get GW's approval. Personally I don't see it as a problem as people make terrain for GW games, bases for GW models, and other helpful products. They aren't infringing on GW's IP since AFAIK GW can't copyright "Stunned" or "Immobilised".

Ozymandias, King of Kings]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549451.page GMT
There are times quite frequently that I am listening to the D6 gen and I find myself bored to death by a few long drawn out discussions on certain minutae of X subject. But I chalk that off to the lack of visual references that would keep me otherwise engaged.

I found myself able to the entire episode and remain interested throughout the enite podcast.

I particularly enjoy the recent move to interview people "in the biz" of the gaming world. I could care less if they sponsor the show or not, but I really like listening about such things because most of the time companies usually A) aren't offered a way to communicate this way with the public or B) have no desire to communicate this way with the public instead opting to let their products do the talking for them. Hopefully you can contact more people and do a segment each episode like this. It helps promote their products, and it gives you interesting subject matter for the listeners.

What happened to the hollywood minute music? I didn't even know it had started without that audio cue... I thought Raef was channeling andy rooney just for the hell of it.

The hollywood minute was excellent. Collectible "blind buy" games are the devil and I myself stopped buying 'blind buys' after Pirates. I will say that the singles market is a godsend, as a way of snubbing your nose at the makers of those games.

Without the singles market, I would never have enough eastern block tanks for my Kursk scenario in the axis and allies miniatures game (which consequently are the perfect scale for Flames of war).

Take heart about your pirates stuff, Raef. With the new Trafalgar game from warhammer ancients, I am sure you will find a secondary use for those models quite soon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549466.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/549645.page GMT
Loved the episode...

For the Ancient and Medieval era you could look into [url=http://www.fieldofglory.com/]Field of Glory[/url] from Osprey Publishing. The full coloured rulebook is well organized and detailed with lots of diagrams to explain key concepts. It is a sufficient system for the historical set, but has the ability to create point based armies for the hobby gamer set. It can be played in 15mm or 25/28mm scale. It would be a good "gateway" to historical gaming.

I picked up the rules and a couple suplements at my local book store but it is also available from Amazon.com. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550308.page GMT
Actually, he misquoted the name of the company. And no you aren't blind. I was looking for the promised link as well as I wanted to see the ships and there were no links.

The blue acetate water sheets are from "[url=http://www.plastruct.com/Home.html]Plastruct[/url]", not plasteck or whatever.

They have various ripples in the water that can serve any scale.
[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/colorcrayons/Acetatewater.jpg[/img]

I used this for a ship diorama a couple years ago and it works quite well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550362.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550362.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550677.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550677.page GMT
You know, the longer he was going off on that, the more certain I was that there would be a hilarious WFW segment coming up.

On the historical gaming side - does anyone know of a good skirmish level set for WWII, or one that could be used for real-world battles using some 1/48 WWII figures? Basically I have a few handfuls of Germans and Russians, and I would like to find something that could be used to play a short battle in a village or some such, perhaps with a piece of supporting armor per side. Not looking for historical recreation here, just something that makes sense for the period/weapons and would be fun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550717.page GMT
Hellfury nailed it. Here's the link Craig just sent me:

http://www.plastruct.com/Pages/OnlineProductDetail.lasso?-op='eq'&CCode=WPSB-408

Same stuff Hellfury pointed out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550726.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550726.page GMT
I'm hapy to be your straight man Owen.

(See how I did that? A little double entendre there like that? You know, because it's a sketch comedy reference and a sexual orientation reference... oh nevermind.)

You do HAVE to admit there is a lot of snogging going on in that show... no?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550730.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550892.page GMT
Right... but would there be any Welsh writers or directors on the show? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550915.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/550995.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/551073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/551073.page GMT
Also, I signed up on DakkaDakka just to leave this comment, as I'm primarily an RPG gamer, but still like your show better than most of the podcasts I've come across. Thanks for making third shift more enteretaining!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/551275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/551275.page GMT
Thanks for the shout out Craig, and I'm very pleased you had such a good time playing Epic with the guys! It was my pleasure to help publicise what a great job the Epic Rules Committee did to brush the rules up and incorporate FAQs etc., and turn what was a great concept into a functional game.

If anyone's interested in Epic: Armageddon (which is a really good game system - not "old school" at all, but thoroughly modern in its split activation sequence and other "innovative mechanics", and its only 6 or 7 years old anyhow! ) the link I showed Craig was to the "Epic Armageddon Handbook 2008" which you can download here: [url]http://www.tacticalwargames.net/forums/index.cgi?act=ST;f=69;t=11218[/url] (or [url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/6939287/EpicArmageddonHandbook2008[/url] as a mirror.

There is a great deal to be said for gaming with "teeny -weeny, tiny men"!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552088.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552088.page GMT
Not all Epic gamers are using that rule book or set of army lists.

Head over to Tactical wargames forum for more info.

The UK has a growing tournament circuit, more details can be found at http://www.epic-uk.co.uk]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552130.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552130.page GMT
Scottish actually

Thanks for the shout outs on another good episode although I'm not through it all yet. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552155.page GMT
The Plastruct idea for ship bases is perfect. I was trying to decide how to base the human frigates (and I suspect the small Dragon Lords ships might need them as well) and this looks like a good solution. I've already stolen Craig's table idea so why not the bases as well.

I liked the historical gaming segment. I have been interested in it for a long time but a primary limiting factor is finding opponents. From what I have learned, this is probably the most important step since it will drive what periods, scale and rules to select (unless you buy multiple armies for others to play against you). The fragmentation seems to be a major limiting factor for people interested in historical gaming -- at least in the U.S.


[quote=owenrufus]Russell's badly Judged Torchwood comments will be fully addressed in the Next "Words from Wales". I for one can't wait.........[/quote]

Perhaps in addition to explaining the apparent lack of morality in Wales you can also explain why there are so many aliens in Cardiff ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552209.page GMT
Aliens in Cardiff - Having spent many a Saturday night out there I can say that there are some interesting types living there that is for sure......]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552262.page GMT
Well, as I understand it (and correct me if I'm wrong) these were initially approved by Jervis and then the whole "we won't accept FAQs until there's a reprint" issue happened and after a very long period of silence, the approval was retracted. So technically you may be correct, morally I think the ERA version stands as it only did not become 100% "official" because there has not been a reprinted rulebook - in contrast with what happened with BFG.

[quote=mephiston]Not all Epic gamers are using that rule book or set of army lists.[/quote]

As its a "dead game" as far as GW are concerned players have been left to fend for themselves, so this is true. I'm not at all interested in tournaments, so I haven't a clue what has become generally accepted on the tournament scene.

[quote=mephiston]Head over to Tactical wargames forum for more info.

The UK has a growing tournament circuit, more details can be found at http://www.epic-uk.co.uk[/quote]

Absolutely true. Endorsed 100%.

In my view the ERA "cleaned up" version of the rules is 1,000% better than the original in terms of legibility and clarity. Playability, balance and the rest seems fine enough to me, but that is a much more subjective call. All I know is that after 3 reads-through of the original rule book and 3 test games, I couldn't make head nor tail of the game. After a single go with the 2008 version, I was sorted and have had no more clarity issues. The original book is a complete mess as far as I am concerned when it comes to actually trying to work out how to play the game. Although it is very pretty!


[b]In other news...[/b]

My wallet hates you guys. Again!

[img]http://www.ema-models.co.uk/emapix/emalogo.gif[/img]

I've just ordered 3 sheets of that blue Plastruct sheeting. In the UK its available from [url]http://www.ema-models.co.uk/[/url] Its not in their retail catalogue though so you have to ring up and order over the phone. Minimum order quantity is £12 of goods, which means you have to order 3 sheets. With VAT and delivery, that comes to around £17. Any UK resident wanting to order can email them at sales@ema-models.com

If Craig could ever post any images of his finished bases I'd be very interested to see how his "bow waves" etc., turned out! I'm a bit intimidated about the idea of making them out of greenstuff!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552324.page GMT GW for approval by Jervis et al. Not all of the changes were adopted and GW produced an errata and updated FAQ file of the changes that were approved.

The original rules and errata/FAQ can be found at http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?community=&catId=cat1290025&categoryId=1100014&aId=4900003

There is talk of an rule book with the errata added in but it's awaiting GW approval.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552415.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552415.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552724.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/552724.page GMT
The historical part made me laugh were the guys kept saying "this bits like 40K or fantasy".

If you wanted to start out in ancients I'd probably suggest Warhammer Ancient Battles before Field of Gory. WAB really is fantasy minus the magic were FOG is element based and much more historical than hobby game IMO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/553839.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/553839.page GMT
Thanks for all the posts on the Historical Primer segment. I had no idea it would be received so well. I am still learning as I go and I will keep you all up to date. Right now, I am deciding on basing four 28 mm on one base as suggested in the rule book, or basing each figure on one "warhammer" base. I am probably leaning on the latter so I could always use the "Warhammer" ACW rules when they come out.

Chat again in about a year.

Hollywood.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/558340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/558340.page GMT IMHO. I think almost 20 minutes was spent at the beginning on contest info and iTunes reviews. These things are fine, and you've picked up a lot of sponsors which is great, but maybe it's time to move some of these things exclusively to the website. Don't get me wrong, I love the show. But I hardly watch regular TV anymore because I'm sick of being bombarded with advertising. Otherwise, keep up the good work. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/562416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/562416.page GMT
A link to give you the idea:
http://theminiaturespage.com/rules/acw/bab.html
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/577143.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/577143.page GMT IMHO. I think almost 20 minutes was spent at the beginning on contest info and iTunes reviews. These things are fine, and you've picked up a lot of sponsors which is great, but maybe it's time to move some of these things exclusively to the website. Don't get me wrong, I love the show. But I hardly watch regular TV anymore because I'm sick of being bombarded with advertising. Otherwise, keep up the good work. [/quote]

I have to admit, the iTunes reviews are probably the most droppable bit of the show.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/577291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/229223/577291.page GMT