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Kevin Nash and I have decided to do a "Tale of Four Gamers" type of campaign, where it's actually a Tale of Two Gamers. Kevin Nash has chosen the Witch Hunters and I have chosen Chaos Renegades (counts as Imperial Guard) as the armies for this tale. Over the course of 18 weeks we will progressively build our armies, with a battle played every three weeks. The milestones are as follows:

[i]Edit: This campaign is actually Shep, Kevin Nash, and I doing a "Tale of Three Gamers" now. With Shep doing Tau. This is old news, but I figured I would update the main entry to clarify what you may read about Shep's army below.[/i]

Week 3: 400 total points each (Combat Patrol)
Week 6: 700 total points each
Week 9: 1000 total points each
Week 12: 1250 total points each + 1 objective each
Week 15: 1500 total points each + 2 objectives each
Week 18: 1750 total points each + 3 objectives each

Scoring, every three weeks, will be done as follows:

Models Painted on Time: 5 points
Models Painted Late: 3 points
Models not Painted: 0 points

Battle Won: 3 points
Battle Draw: 2 points
Battle Lost: 1 point

You may note that the scoring is weighted more towards having our armies painted, this is to keep the motivation targetted towards building and painting a full army.

As part of this campaign, I decided to document, P&M Blog, the development of my Chaos Renegades Army.

With that, I introduce WIP 1st Armoured Fist Squad of my Reconnaissance Squadron (180 points) , with Enforcer (40 points), for the 400 pt Combat Patrol:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/19812-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%3A%201st%20Armored%20Fist%20Squad.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/15/19812_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%3A%201st%20Armored%20Fist%20Squad.jpg[/img][/url]

I still need to build another Armoured Fist Squad to complete the Reconnaissance Squadron, aka Combat Patrol.

Thanks for reading!

edit:

1750 POINTS COMPLETED!

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This is what I have so far.

247/400:

137 points - Dominion squad 5x (one flamer) with Sister Superior and Immolator w smoke and extra armor
110 points - Battle Sisters Squad with Sister Superior.


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I intend to add another Immolator and a Rhino to get to 400.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/567884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/567884.page GMT FLGS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/567887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/567887.page GMT FW so I will be following this blog.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/567891.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/567891.page GMT
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/19978-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Color%20Test.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/16/19978_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Color%20Test.jpg[/img][/url]

More taking notes for myself right now but...

The cloth is : basecoat Bestial Brown, a wash of Devlan Mud, liberal drybrush of Snakebite Leather. and drybrush Vomit Brown
The metal is : baseboat Boltgun Metal, 2-3 washes of Badab Black, a wash of Devlan Mud, and a selective dab of watered down Vermin Brown

Not a whole lot of pop, but I want a dusty Vraks militia and I think this will do. I also discovered I need better lighting for my light tent , as the model is a bit darker in person.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/568909.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/568909.page GMT IG are totally rad. I am liking the color scheme so far, but I think maybe something different for the head. Maybe a leathery brown or something like that. Can't wait to see them finished!
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sA]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569046.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569046.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569081.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569226.page GMT
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The next step is gonna be to do the remaining infantry in bolt gun metal. I look to acquire and build the Rhino on Wednesday.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569782.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569838.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/569860.page GMT
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/19978-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Color%20Test.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/16/19978_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Color%20Test.jpg[/img][/url]

More taking notes for myself right now but...

The cloth is : basecoat Bestial Brown, a wash of Devlan Mud, liberal drybrush of Snakebite Leather. and drybrush Vomit Brown
The metal is : baseboat Boltgun Metal, 2-3 washes of Badab Black, a wash of Devlan Mud, and a selective dab of watered down Vermin Brown

Not a whole lot of pop, but I want a dusty Vraks militia and I think this will do. I also discovered I need better lighting for my light tent , as the model is a bit darker in person.[/quote]

We can talk more about this at paint night but just in case you go home tonight and want to work more on this test model, I'll throw in my two cents.

First off, that khaki looks fantastic! the steps you used are all worth it, the cloth is extremely 'deep' and rich looking.

The metal also is spot on. It doesn't look non-functional, but it looks like its seen better days, and hasn't been cared for.

Here is your problem with 'pop'. Small models like this need contrast, the more stark the contrast, the better. The more 'like' the colors on the model are, the harder it is for the eye to find any distinction in the model. For some armies like eldar and tau, you can take out a color wheel pick two contrasting colors, make them pastels, and apply it to the model for an eye catch, head turning paint job. Which earns you many oohs and ahhs. For a guy like this, that is wearing khaki fatigues and has rusty metal, coming up with contrast is a lot harder.

Ok, so rather than talk about the color wheel (which I know nothing about) I'm going to talk in terms of 'warm' colors and 'cool' colors. Everything in the red/brown/yellow camp is warm. Everything in the blue/green/grey camp is cool. Adding black or white to a color technically doesn't change what family its in, it just changes its tone. You have this wonderful brown here, from the knees of the model to the top of his head. Thats mega warm, and it is the dominant color of the model. Ok, so you have a great contrast in there with the boltgun metal. That metal is certainly a 'cool' color, and you have a lot of it on your dude. To make it look chaosy and evil, you washed it with some brown wash. It looks fantastic, but what you've done is warmed up your cool color contrast considerably. So now we have a model that looks cool, but from tabletop distance has no 'gotcha' factor at all. In the words of Murderface "It needs more 'zazz."

My suggestion for another 'cool' tone that you could throw on this model that is still evil and hardcore looking would be black. The sheath for the bayonet, the canteen, the ammo pouch, the boots and maybe even the rifle casing can be black. Highlight it with a mix of black and codex grey and keep any warm colors away from it. Paint the imperial eagle and other details boltgun, but hold the devlan mud.

The last thing I'd do would be to add some freehand detail, some mechrite red right out of the bottle to make chaos stars and X's to go over the imperial iconography would add a little more fun. It wouldn't need to be perfectly done, since you could go for a 'fresh blood applied with a finger' look.

Another sneaky place to add contrast is the base. I use the base all the time to add color and contrast to models. I'm trying to remember how you based your black legion, and what your realm of battle is painted as. You can use static grass, the color of the sand, and even the color of the ring around the base to sneak new colors into your model. Remind me tomorrow what your basing scheme is.

Great job so far! I'm totally impressed. Did Nash tell you I'll be joining you guys? You can keep me out of the fluff since you have such a great witch hunters versus traitors matchup going, but I just want the extra motivation that timelines and competition brings.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/570747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/570747.page GMT
Great job so far! I'm totally impressed. Did Nash tell you I'll be joining you guys? You can keep me out of the fluff since you have such a great witch hunters versus traitors matchup going, but I just want the extra motivation that timelines and competition brings.[/quote]

I would hope you'd show us what you're building so we can keep it in a mega thread. We'll also post the batreps here as well and the list progression.

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One little suggestion for pop... you could add some color to the lenses in the re-breather mask... maybe even some orange like you did with your plague marines. Alternatively, jade/scaley green might be an interesting look and would be a nice contrast from the khaki.

I like what Shep said about the chaos markings in red too... though you might be able to get away with putting them on in calthan brown or scorched brown if you don't want to step away from your palette.

Keep up the good work!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/571814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/571814.page GMT
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Those SoBs are looking a lot better. I like how you brightened them up a bit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/573122.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/573122.page GMT
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I still have to acquire a Rhino and acquire the Two Melta Gun sisters I have on order. I also have a second Immolator in the mail.




]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/574276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/574276.page GMT WIP view of the Armoured Fist Squad. I have decided on holding off on doing the extra level of detail until I have the entire 400 points is complete, as I need to remember I am on a time limit. I am doing some additional weathering and details for the Chimera and will post those this weekend.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20603-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/20/20603_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades.jpg[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577402.page GMT or so kind of debirs looks empty.

How many more do you need ?. I think IMO your beating the SOB player]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577728.page GMT For which I use Scorched Brown, Dark Flesh, and a Drybrush of Kommando Khaki, it looks a little muddy, and as part of the basing I will also me muddying up the boots, so good call!


For 400 pts I just need to build and paint 4 more guardsmen, base all 20, weather and detail my built Chimera, and build, paint, etc 1 more Chimera. Yeah the SoBs are going down I have decided to replace my 2 Meltas with Plasma Guns, so if I can force him out of his vehicles before he gets close, I win.

Edit... I also have 2 weeks left, so that should give me enough time to go back and add at least one more level of detail to everything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577816.page GMT
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The next step is gonna be to do the remaining infantry in bolt gun metal. I look to acquire and build the Rhino on Wednesday.[/quote]

eyes = a knitting pin, skull white paint, a steady hand.

pupils = same pin, washed off, chaos black, steady hand, small jabbing motion, also steady hand.

its how i do it. want a pic?

also, for those traitor troopers, try a blue for the "eye" in the head mask.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577834.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/577834.page GMT
I love your models esspecialy the faces... btw do you have some pictures of your skaven i just love skaven?
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I love your models esspecialy the faces... btw do you have some pictures of your skaven i just love skaven?
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please link me to my works that you have seen. if you are talking about the pic in my above post it is a quoted picture.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/578905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/578905.page GMT @lord marcus: Thanks for the tips on the eyes. I'll give it a shot.

I did a lot of work on the Immolator tonight:

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[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/22/20818_md-.JPG[/img]

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/579342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/579342.page GMT th emud effect I do it to my DKOK ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/579619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/579619.page GMT
that immolater looks tasty.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/579647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/579647.page GMT
Starting with my first attempt at free hand drawing on a tank we have the Chimera:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20900-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%201st%20Armoured%20Fist%20-%20Chimera.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/22/20900_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%201st%20Armoured%20Fist%20-%20Chimera.jpg[/img][/url]
I am really happy with the way the Chaos iconography turned out and I look forward to adding more symbols and graffiti to this Chimera.

Next, I have the full squad, including the Chimera and the attached Enforcer:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20901-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%201st%20Armoured%20Fist%20-%20Full%20Squad.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/22/20901_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%201st%20Armoured%20Fist%20-%20Full%20Squad.jpg[/img][/url]
Barring the fact that I need more/better lighting for taking pictures, I am also happy with the results of this squad. The basing was done to specifically match my Realm of Battle Board. I haven't applied any of the great input that I have recieved on this thread, yet. However, I am stopping at this level of detail, until I finished off the second squad and see how much time I have left.

Thanks to the inspiration and guidance from Shep, I am extremely happy with the results of the Heavy Weapons Team:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20902-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Auto-Cannon%20Team.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/22/20902_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Auto-Cannon%20Team.jpg[/img][/url]
The best part, and all thanks to Shep, and his [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/227486.page]Vostroyan Re-Paint Plog[/url], for telling me how to do this, is that I like how well the spotter fits in and is removable:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20903-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20AC%20Team%2C%20without%20Spotter.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/22/20903_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20AC%20Team%2C%20without%20Spotter.jpg[/img][/url]
The full progression for the base is seen here:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20904-Base%2C%20Heavy%20Weapons%20Basing.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/2/22/20904_sm-Base%2C%20Heavy%20Weapons%20Basing.png[/img][/url]

Now I am off to finish the second squad!

Again, thanks for the input!


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i would also reccommend krylon flat clear spray. $3 at wally world and your loving paint jobs are protected.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/580355.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/580355.page GMT

Thanks for the recommendation on the krylon clear spray, and after I do a few more rounds of detailing on all of the models I will probably do that

Thanks!.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/580370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/580370.page GMT GW - not sure on GW prices.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/580530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/580530.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/582578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/582578.page GMT And it is constantly evolving, albeit slowly now that I have this second army growing. I have learned so much since starting that Black Legion army, I feel like I could revisit it and considerably enhance the quality of it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/582737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/582737.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/582944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/582944.page GMT

I really like the idea of doing a "Blog to Apocolypse" to showcase your Black Legion as it adds a few models to reach Apocalypse size. You've got a tough model-count army to paint for the "Tale of 4 gamers" style painting challenge you're doing with Shep and KevinNash, but with the way you crank out models, you might just have time to work on that Apocalypsizing blog at the same time as this one.

Keep up the good work! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/587140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/587140.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/587307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/587307.page GMT

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The List:

396/400 Points:

Troops

1 Veteran Sister Superior w Book of St. Lucius and 9 Battle Sisters (Melta, Heavy Flamer)
+ Rhino w Smoke and Extra Armor = 209

Elite

6 Celestians (Melta, Flamer) + Immolator (Twin Linked Multi-Melta) w Smoke and Extra Armor = 187


I'm designating the Veteran as my Leader. We'll be posting our batreps this weekend complete with pictures.




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The list:

Armoured Fist Squad (1)
* Sergeant and Nine Guardsmen (w/ Autocannon and Plasma Gun)
* Chimera (Multi-Laser, Heavy Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Spotlight)

Armoured Fist Squad (2)
* Sergeant and Nine Guardsmen (w/ Autocannon and Plasma Gun)
* Chimera (Multi-Laser, Heavy Bolter, Smoke Launchers, Spotlight)

Enforcer a.k.a Commisar (w/ Power Weapon)

I am getting new lights for my light tent this weekend, so I hope to have better pictures going forward.

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Commander Brightsword's Force Recon

2x crisis suit 2x twin-linked missile pods 2x targeting array 1x shas'vre

1x crisis suit twin-linked missile pods targeting array

1x crisis suit twin-linked missile pods targeting array

6x fire warriors
1x devilfish multi-tracker smart missile system disruption pod



We all finished on time! Full points for everyone. We are going to play our games on sunday, pics and batreps to follow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598079.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598079.page GMT SOB and the Tau,so is the battle report gina be in the battle report section or on the blog?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598088.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598088.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598089.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598090.page GMT SoB vehicles could use filling in of the metal bits on their stained glass canopies, but other than that they´re super.

FW renegades always make my day, it really saddens me that they´re so expensive, the models are just beautiful (in a horrible, chaotic evil way). Very nice dusty scheme on them.

As for the Tau... Nice painting! Even better with the scenery and background, actually looks like something GW would make for WD. And I mean that in a good way. :9]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598106.page GMT
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That is some stunning stuff there shep.
Kudos to all three of you though. Everyones looking great so far. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/598159.page GMT you three and your awesome productivity!

But seriously, great work on your new armies!

@Shep - Such clean, shiny Tau from someone who swore against white primer for so long... hehe... your army looks crazy-good! I love the paint-scheme and can't wait to see what you wind up with in the rest of your list. Seriously mad paint skills on display... kudos.

@AbsoluteBlue - Awesome Traitor Guard! I can't believe how quickly you paint and how great your stuff looks - especially having gotten into painting 40k so recently (relatively speaking of course ). This is going to be another army that I'll get so much joy out of looking at, that I won't mind how badly it's crushing mine.

@KevinNash - Great Sisters! It's awesome seeing how you're just going for it on this army and trying loads of new paint techniques. I can see you having a ton of fun with the list too - such a counter-point to Orks.

Keep kickin' butt and hopefully we can get in some games with our new lists sometime soon. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/602162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/602162.page GMT
The combat patrol has left the armoury and is in route to the last known location of the SoB sighting.

With that a, me trying to have fun learning the camera and lighting, pic of the Chimera:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/22303-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chimera%20at%20Night.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/8/22303_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chimera%20at%20Night.jpg[/img][/url]

Furthermore, I started making some progress on the next round. Since i will need a full infantry platoon, I introduce you all to Platoon Commander Lt. Kerr:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/22304-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20LT_KERR.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/8/22304_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20LT_KERR.jpg[/img][/url]

Going with the Forge World Chaos Renegades models has been great, but it also sets me up with a limited model set. As such, I tried to create an officer that fit in with the theme of the army, but looked a little different.



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I think someone before has said, but I think the renegades would really stand out more with a little more contrast. They need a third "spot" colour on them to catch the eye. Since you already used dark red on the chimera, why not use it for some hoods, armour plates etc. Also, adding some brighter metal chips and scratches on the armour areas would help bring them out a bit too.

I know its not something your probably planning to add at this stage but maybe something to consider once you hit the next milestone?

Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Dante]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/602824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/602824.page GMT I have been playing around with many of the options suggested on a test model. So far the brighter metal chips and scratches will most likely be used. As for the hood colors, this has been a huge struggle for me I don't like that my army is the attack of the brown for sure, but I am having trouble with what to add, but still have it look somewhat natural. Red might work and I will be doing some test models and hopefully something catches my eye.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/603365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/603365.page GMT
Week 3 has been fully resolved and the outcome is as follows:

* All 3 armies were successfully painted up to 400 points. (5 points each).

We used the Combat Patrol scenario from the 4th Edition rulebook on a 4' x 4' table, while still using 5th Edition rules.

* The Chaos Renegades were annihilated by the Tau. Shep's hit and run tactics left the Renegades near helpless, destroying every Renegade and losing only one crisis suit. (Absolute Blue: 1 point v Shep: 3 Points)
* The Sisters of Battle put up a great challenge for the Tau, as their power armor helped them survive long enough to get a few melta shots on the Tau crisis suits, forcing a draw. (Kevin Nash: 2 points v Shep: 2 points)
* While the Chaos Renegades put up a decent fight, taking out the Immolator, the Rhino, and with some handywork by the Enforcer, they also took out the Celestians. However, the Battle Sisters drove forward taking out both of the Renegade Chimeras with their Meltas and then pressing hard against the unit without the Enforcer, forcing them into a retreat. Points were counted and the Sisters of Battle earned the win. (Absolute Blue: 1 v Kevin Nash: 3)

Total Points for Week 3:

Absolute Blue: 7 points
Kevin Nash: 10 points
Shep: 10 points

From the Renegade perspective, I had no chance against the Tau. At 400 points the Tau had 8 twin-linked 36" S7 AP4 shots, combined with an assault move gave them an effective 42" range. While my auto-cannons could give them some trouble, and managed to kill 1 suit, I just could not come close to matching fire. Attempting to get in range exposed my side armor to the Devilfish, so I was basically a sitting duck. Going forward I think what I need in this situation is to maintain cover discipline, get longer ranger (i.e. a Battle Cannon), and be able to get some hard hitting troops inside 12" (i.e. Hardened Veterans w/ Drop Troops)

Against the Sisters of Battle, my chances were much better since I had better range for the first 2 turns. Unfortunately, trying to stay out of melta range became difficult on the 4' x 4' table and their armor saves (and periodic invuln from faith) made them difficult to thin out enough. The result being that once they got within 12" I was fairly doomed. I will say my Enforcer did an excellent job at saving one of the units from assured destruction. Yet, the other unit fell under the wrath of the sisters and I just could not compete at close range. Going forward I need to be able to screen my lines and establish a means of "countering" at close range (i.e. command squad w/ flamers). I also had issues with morale, so a banner would also help. I anticipate seeing some Exorcists showing up in the next batch so heavy armor and range will be critical (i.e. Leman Russ).

At 700 points and following force organization rules, this next round will still be rough for the Chaos Renegades, as my mandatory choices alone will be around 350-400 points (considering HQ squad, Platoon Command Squad, 2 Infantry Squads, and an Armored Fist Squad). I am not positive what exactly I will be bringing on week 6 yet, but I do know I HAVE to build and paint at least 20 more renegade models of various builds, I will start with that. I am about 95% on bringing a Leman Russ, so I will probably build and paint one of those as well. I suspect 5 hardened vets w/ 3 meltas will also make the list, but this has yet to be decided by me

Again, battle reports and pics of current progress will be coming soon. Until then, thanks for reading!

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Game 1 Renegade Deployment:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/22602-Battle%20Report%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Tau.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/10/22602_sm-Battle%20Report%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Tau.JPG[/img][/url]

Game 1 Tau Deployment:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/22600-Battle%20Report%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Tau.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/10/22600_sm-Battle%20Report%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Tau.JPG[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/606713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/606713.page GMT WIP photos of what the Chaos Renegades are so far:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/23032-WIP%20Week%206%20Chaos%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/13/23032_sm-WIP%20Week%206%20Chaos%20Renegades.jpg[/img][/url]

In the above photos we have the following, from back to front:

1. HQ Company Command Unit, consisting of a Junior Officer (w/ Plasma Pistol), 1 Veteran (w/ Banner), and 3 Guardsmen (w/ 3 Flamers)
2. Platoon Command Unit, consisting of a Junior Officer, and 4 Guardsmen (w/ 4 Flamers)
3. Platoon 1st Squad, Sergeant and 9 Guardsmen (w/ 1 Autocannon, and 1 Plasma Gun)
4. Platoon 2nd Squad, Sergeant and 9 Guardsmen (w/ 1 Autocannon, and 1 Plasma Gun)
5. Armoured Fist Squad, Sergeant and 9 Guardsmen (w/ 1 Autocannon, and 1 Plasma Gun), with the Chimera (w/ Multi-Laser and Heavy Bolder) on the rear-left.
6. On the right side, Hardened Veterans, 1 Veteran Sergeant and 4 Veterans (w/ 3 Meltaguns, and 2 Shotguns), these are of special note as they are made using the Cadian bodies, the air tanks cut from the Renegade bodies, and the heads from the [url=http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/index.htm]Pig Iron[/url] Kolony Rebels.
7. On the front left, there is a WIP Mars Alpha Pattern Leman Russ (w/ Modified Ryza Pattern Battle Cannon)

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The above is the same from a different angle (ignore the Ogryns, Advisors, and Tyranids in the back for now ). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/611967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/611967.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612194.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612247.page GMT FOC for IG is rough. :(

@Jimi Nemesis & Llamahead- I recommend this approach, it has done wonders for painting motivation ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612258.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/612390.page GMT WIP pics for my 700 points. I lack a light tent so the quality is pretty lousy but I wanted to display how much is done.

My current 700 point list. This is subject to change as I've got a week and a half to finish it up:

HQ

1 Canoness w Book of St. Lucius, 1 Sister Superior and 4 Celestians (Melta x1) in Immolator w Smoke = 193

Troops

1 Sister Superior and 9 Battle Sisters (Melta x1, Heavy Flamer x1)
+ Rhino w Smoke = 185
1 Sister Superior and 9 Battle Sisters (Melta x1, Heavy Flamer x1)
+ Rhino w Smoke = 185

Heavy Support

Exorcist = 135



[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/15/23204_md-.JPG[/img]

Celestian Squad with Cannoness and Immolator


[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/15/23205_md-.JPG[/img]

20 Sisters of Battle, 2 Rhino's, Exorcist

[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/15/23206_md-.JPG[/img]

Rhino and 10 Sisters of Battle

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[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/15/23208_md-.JPG[/img]

Exorcist

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Here we have a Mars Alpha Pattern Leman Russ with a Modified Ryza Pattern Battle Cannon, Engine Filters, and Trench Rails. Just when I think I get used to dealing with resin, I get to build a model for which I have resin parts that are poorly molded and warped. After a lot of reshaping with hot water and a bit of sand paper, I got everything to fit together (with the help of some green stuff). I seem to like making this challenge hard for myself, but I am loving the results, yet to think I probably have at least two more of these to build by the time I get to 1750, and probably more (with differrent turret options) when the new codex comes out is more than a little initimidation.. I think it's worth it so far.

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[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/23263-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Mars%20Alpha%20Pattern%20Leman%20Russ%20%28View%203%29.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/16/23263_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Mars%20Alpha%20Pattern%20Leman%20Russ%20%28View%203%29.jpg[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/615153.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/615153.page GMT I can't wait to see how that thing looks painted up to your renegade guard standard.
It looks like things are really going to open up for you after the 700pt mark... a few more options and, before you know it, the new codex. Good times ahead... keep up the great work.

@Kevin Nash - Nice work on the sisters. I've heard that the exorcist can be a pain to assemble... glad you pushed through and got it knocked out. Your paint work is really coming along... it'll be great watching this army expand.

@Shep - Always with the suspense... Looking forward to seeing what that next bit of your Tau army turns out like...

Onward! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/616361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/616361.page GMT

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/23886-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Paint%20Assembly%20Line%201.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/20/23886_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Paint%20Assembly%20Line%201.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/23887-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Paint%20Assembly%20Line%202.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/20/23887_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Paint%20Assembly%20Line%202.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/23888-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Paint%20Assembly%20Line%203.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/20/23888_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Paint%20Assembly%20Line%203.jpg[/img][/url]

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I plan on doing all of the metals tonight.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/623492.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/623492.page GMT
Now that these rumors are coming out, and knowing that right about when you hit the 1500 mark you'll have a new codex in your lap, doesn't that make it that much easier? hehe

Oh and if it makes you feel any better, i should be done with my 700 tonight. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/623648.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/623648.page GMT

From the rumours, it sounds like all of my work will not go to waste and will fit in with the new codex... which is GREAT!

Good job on getting done with the 700!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/623676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/623676.page GMT WIP for the HQ Commander, Captain Scarvos:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/24138-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Captain%20Scarvos%20WIP%201.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/22/24138_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Captain%20Scarvos%20WIP%201.jpg[/img][/url]

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I really like how his armor and fatigues turned out, but I definitely need to put more time into his face and "accessories"

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[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/24218-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20HQ%20Command%20WIP%201.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/23/24218_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20HQ%20Command%20WIP%201.jpg[/img][/url]
HQ Command Unit... soon to be obsolete with new Codex.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/24221-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Veterans%20WIP%202.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/23/24221_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Veterans%20WIP%202.jpg[/img][/url]
Veteran Squad, also soon to be obsolete.

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/24152-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Squad%201.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/22/24152_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegade%20Squad%201.jpg[/img][/url]
Bonus Pic... new photo of squad from last batch of renegades
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[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/26/24615_md-Tau%20700.JPG[/img]

I tried to tie the kroot into the tau by painting their shoulder guards white and giving them red warpaint. The hounds I went for more of a yellow color, hope it looks cool. here is my 700 list

shas'o plasma rifle, missile pod, positional relay, iridium armor plates, stimulant injectors, hard-wired multi-tracker, hard-wired drone controller, 2x shield drones

crisis suit twin linked fusion blasters, targeting array

crisis suit twin linked fusion blasters, targeting array

crisis suit twin linked fusion blasters, targeting array

6x fire warriors
devilfish smart missile system, multi-tracker, targeting array, disruption pod

16x kroot
10x kroot hounds]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/633767.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/633767.page GMT
Here is my 700 as posted earlier in the thread.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/633981.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/633981.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/634334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/634334.page GMT
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(probably too many models for one pic)

HQ Command Squad, JO w/ Plasma Pistol, Vet w/ Banner, 3x Flamers
Platoon Command Squad, JO, 4x Flamers
2 Platoon Squads, each with 1x AC, 1x Plasma Gun
1 Armoured Fist Squad, 1x AC, 1x Plasma Gun, Chimera w/ ML and HB
1 Hardened Veteran Squad, 3x Meltaguns, 2x Shotguns
1 Leman Russ w/ HB

For a total of 47 models.. ugh.

Now for a pic of me experimenting with my Game Board:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/24747-Chaos%20Renegades%20700pts%20%28Board%20Test%201%29.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/3/27/24747_sm-Chaos%20Renegades%20700pts%20%28Board%20Test%201%29.jpg[/img][/url]
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I softened everything up way to much, but again I am tired and feeling silly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/634857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/634857.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/634958.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/634958.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/635022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/635022.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/637282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/637282.page GMT
Week 6 Painting:

Shep: 5 points
Nash: 5 points
AbsoluteBlue: 3 points

Week 6 Battle:

Shep v Absolute Blue: The Tau once again destroyed the Chaos Renegades in a Seize Ground mission. Shep 3 points, Absolute Blue 1 point.

Kevin Nash v. Absolute Blue: While the Renegades were able to do some significant damage to the SoB vehicles, they couldn't stop the charge, and in an annihilation game, using 4th Ed IG rules, I gave up way too many KP, losing the game. Kevin Nash 3 points, Absolute Blue 1.

Kevin Nash v. Shep: I wasn't around for this battle but I heard it was a tough fight for the SoBs against the elusive Tau in a Seize Ground mission, where the SoBs forced a draw: Kevin Nash 2 points, Shep 2 points.

Total Points through Week 6

AbsoluteBlue: 14 points
Shep: 20 points
Kevin Nash: 20 points

So I am off to a rough start, but I will be using the new Codex rules, going forward.. which will hopefully give me a fighting chance


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Keep it up the three of you!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/641613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/641613.page GMT
So the group decided that I should focus on the "new IG codex" and work towards using those rules going forward. As such, I had to bring my Veteran Squad up to 10 members. I also decided to add another Leman Russ. I haven't decided on the last part of my 1000 point list yet, but I sense an artillery piece.
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26194-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Leman%20Russ%202B.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/6/26194_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Leman%20Russ%202B.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26193-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Leman%20Russ%202A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/6/26193_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Leman%20Russ%202A.jpg[/img][/url]
As a mini reward to myself, not sure why I deserve a reward but gave myself one anyways... and after being greatly inspired by a fun game of Apocalypse with Shep, Somnicide, GitSmack, and wolflordkejl, I built one of my super-heavies, a Malcador:
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26190-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Malcador%201A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/6/26190_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Malcador%201A.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26192-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Malcador%201C.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/6/26192_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Malcador%201C.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26191-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Malcador%201B.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/6/26191_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Malcador%201B.jpg[/img][/url]



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[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/26376-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Hydra%201A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/7/26376_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20WIP%20Hydra%201A.jpg[/img][/url]

Bam, my forgeworld order arrived today and here is my first Hydra!

As a result of this new arrival... the Week 9 List might be only one Leman Russ, but add two Hydras. Thinking of the meta-game here, long-range anti-light vehicle platforms might be a better choice than another battle cannon. 1) I need to stop the immolators before they get too close and 2) This might be a good way to shut down a devilfish.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653269.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653270.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653270.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653275.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/653280.page GMT
Built and painted a 3rd Chimera.. updated paint jobs with more weathering...

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/27393-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chimera%201A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/13/27393_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Chimera%201A.jpg[/img][/url]

Repainted Leman Russ:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/27392-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Leman%20Russ%201A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/13/27392_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Leman%20Russ%201A.jpg[/img][/url]

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[img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/16/27935_md-Tau%2040k%2C%201000%20Tau.JPG[/img]

My next batch will be easy. But then getting to 1500 is going to be a nightmare. Adding the second big kroot unit and filling out the fire warriors will be a lot of models to paint. Plus I'm getting REALLY distracted now that my main army is getting a new codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/669258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/669258.page GMT
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/236864.page#671267
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/671289.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/671289.page GMT I will take a better one once we pick the camera back up...

So here is my 1000 points

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/28121-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades%201000%20points.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/17/28121_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades%201000%20points.jpg[/img][/url]

Added 2 Hydras, A Chimera, 5 Veterans, and the Commissar is back in the mix.

Here is a week 12 Preview pic... introducing the EXECUTIONER! (Work in progress)

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/28122-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Executioner%20WIP%201.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/17/28122_sm-Chaos%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Executioner%20WIP%201.jpg[/img][/url]

Maybe not the most effective, but a beast none the less!
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Shep's Tau v. KevinNash's SoB - Shep's positional relay confuses and befuddles in a game of annihilation. Shep scores early and forces KevinNash to try to get Kill Points. Shep wins, per earlier posted batrep. Shep 3 points, KevinNash 1 point.

AbsoluteBlue Renegade IG v. KevinNash's SoB - another game of annihilation, pitched battle. The guard get a good position vs the SoB but a series of poor damage rolls and scatters, leaves the SoB in great position to lay their flamers down on my troops, while the Exorcists shell my artillery. I concede at the bottom of turn 4. KevinNash 3 points, AbsoluteBlue 1 point.

AbsoluteBlue Renegade IG v. Shep's Tau - Seize Ground with 5 objectives, spearhead. I actually get a chance to rain fire down on the positional relay for 2 whole turns... 2+ saves keep the relay alive. The guard put up a fighting chance, but the Kroot pass a critical morale test and hold strong rolling over my objectives, giving Shep the win. Shep 3 points, Absolute Blue 1 point.

Furthermore, we all finished our painting on time. 5 points each.

Week 9 Totals:
AbsoluteBlue: 21
KevinNash: 29
Shep: 31

Shep takes the lead and they both leave me far behind

9 more weeks to go though, and while I doubt I will win.. the army is shaping up nicely, which was the point Not giving up yet though, I will crush them one day.

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The Valkyrie:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/31294-Valk%201A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/4/31294_sm-Valk%201A.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/31295-Valk%201B.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/4/31295_sm-Valk%201B.jpg[/img][/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/699487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/699487.page GMT LotR models I see!?!? You know how we feel about those... :-p

you gonna bring that to paint night this week?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/699700.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/699700.page GMT LoTR models. Minas Tirith! and I will be bringing the Valk to paint night, since this Wed is due day and I will show my fully painted 1250 list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/699722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/699722.page GMT
[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/31418-Chaos%2C%20Eradicator%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/5/31418_sm-Chaos%2C%20Eradicator%2C%20Renegades.jpg[/img][/url]

Still WIP, but I think it looks appropriate. Also, the inspiration for doing this actually came from Shep, since he has already done this with his Phaeton pattern turrets and he was the one that showed me that the hellhammer looks like the eradicator.. so all credit goes to him ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/701041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/701041.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/701360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/701360.page GMT
The Valkyrie, if I was paying more attention to the meta-game, I should have immediately converted this to a Vendetta, but this is for fun and I will make the next one a Vendetta:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32172-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32172_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

The Leman Russ Executioner with Plasma Sponsons:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32170-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32170_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

The Leman Russ Battle Cannon with Plasma Sponsons, this is just temporary since I needed the cheapest turrent for other points and this will later become probably either a demolisher, eradicator, or vanquisher:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32169-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32169_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

The Psychic Battle Squad with 8 Psychers, fluff here is that the Overseer is a renegade Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor that rounded up a group of severally warp tainted psychers and has herded them into doing what they doing, weakening the resolve of the enemy as their minds fall prey to the machinations of the warp:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32171-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32171_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

Basic group shot, in the back you might be able to make out the supply pallet I painted as an objective for this round:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32173-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32173_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

List is currently:

CCS (4x Flamers, Chimera)
PBS (8 Psychers, Chimera)
Vets (3x Plasma Guns, Chimera)
Vets (3x Meltaguns)
Valkyrie (MRL)
2x Hydra (Squadron)
LRBT w/ Plasma Sponsons
LR Executions w/ Plasma Sponsons
1 Objective


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709504.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709617.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709867.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709867.page GMT FLGS often do with their build and battles from what I have seen), or lower the points per month to something less aggressive. I am a DINK (dual income no kids) and don't spend money on prety much anything else except the basics so I go kinda crazy. However, I am actually going to start up a slower campaign with some friends on tighter budgets. It will progress slower, but any sort of competition/build and battle set up I recommend since it has vastly improved my productivity and focus.

@Somnicide - Thanks, credit goes to Gitsmack for the idea, though I was told it was Gitsmack's idea through Shep. I liked that it was very simple plastic kit with one necromunda model donated to me by Shep. Thanks to both of them... and the rest of Sprue Posse for keeping me motivated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709926.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/709926.page GMT
Love all of the armies keep it up guys

@Absolute Blue: How do you paint your tanks? They look awesome

Keep up the good work]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/732524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/732524.page GMT With regards to paint jobs.. there are two different ways I have been going

1) The Leman Russ Executioner

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32170-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32170_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

a) Prime Chaos Block
b) Airbrushed Calthan Brown
c) Applies a liberal coat of Devlan Mud (I tried once with an airbrush and it was too uniform, so I switched to a Brush and it looked "muddier."
d) Drybrush Calthan Brown
e) Drybrush Bestial Brown
f) Edge with Bleached Bone

2) The Leman Russ w/ Battle Cannon

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/32169-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/5/10/32169_sm-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Renegades%2C%20Renegades.JPG[/img][/url]

a) Prime Chaos Block
b) Airbrushed Calthan Brown
c) Applies a liberal coat of Devlan Mud (I tried once with an airbrush and it was too uniform, so I switched to a Brush and it looked "muddier."
d) Drybrush Calthan Brown
e) Dryrbush Kemri Brown
f) A couple edge highlights with Dheneb Stone

Tracks for both tanks are:

a) Tin Bitz
b) Drybrush Boltgun Metal
c) Wash with Badab Black

Road dirt at bottom of tanks:

a) Drybrush Scorched Brown
b) Drybrush Dark Flesh
c) Light drybrush of Graveyard Earth



I am actually not totally sold on these steps and I am considering alternative paint schemes for the tanks to give them more "Pop", but I need to learn more and practice more before I bother

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I'm about to start up a DKoK army...


A nemesis arises ;P]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/734520.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/734520.page GMT As said, I love the idea of using the ghoul models as psykers. Great stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/734780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/734780.page GMT


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AbsoluteBlue - I think i prefer the Executioner paintjob, although the normal Russ is also great

I have just started a Renegade army because of you, (joke) and its not cheap

Thanks for the inspiration]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/741630.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/741630.page GMT IG army now, its just to bad no one in m area wants to do a campaign like this, oh well maybe ill start my own campaign with some other people in other areas....

any way loving all this campaign, painting, converting goodness keep it up guys!!!

-SKB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/754073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/754073.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/754124.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/754124.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/757212.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/757212.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/764291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/764291.page GMT Or in a way you can blame the new IG codex Basically, Shep's main army is IG and when the Codex came out he was so distracted by it that he "conceded." Along with that Kevin Nash really wanted to retool his Orks, his main, to be able to handle the new IG. I understand where they were coming from, but its rough when we were only 6 weeks from finishing, with only 500 points more to paint.

@em_en_oh_pee - Well, until I started my renegades I didn't think there were that many. Then after I start this PLOG I noticed there were a lot of folk also doing/done with Renegades, for me it was newer since I only started 40k in 5th edition, but seeing the Codex: Eye of Terror with the Lost and the Damned list, I realized there has been a lot of work around the concept of traitor guard in the past. Personally, I loved the Forgeworld Siege of Vraks books and I am all about the Chaos so it was a great fit for me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766234.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766234.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766324.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766368.page GMT 40K as a Chaos Space Marines player and after getting introduced to Apocalypse, I felt it would be great to start up a second army but keep it Chaos Themed. I liked the Vraks books and the Forgeworld models so much, I felt this needs to be my second army .. At some point, I will also build a Chaos Daemons army, but first things first ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766638.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/766638.page GMT
I did it the other way round, started with daemons for the painting opportunities then went to deathguard then started renegades to get some nice tanks. lol. When are you going to post some more progress? It would be really nice to see your latest models.

Vitruvian]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/772641.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/772641.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/773956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/773956.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/793292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/793292.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/793330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/793330.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/793696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/793696.page GMT SoB player have stopped to do their main armies (as it says furter up in the post). Its only the Renegades now.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/795137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/795137.page GMT
Just to show, I am at least working on this army... here is what I recently finished base coating and/or priming for addition... I use an airbrush so I do them in batches:

[url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/41000-Renegades%20WIP%201A.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/7/2/41000_sm-Renegades%20WIP%201A.jpg[/img][/url]

So you can see there is a basilisk, chimera, leman russ, malcador, and hydra. Hard to see but there is also some (5) Ogryns and a Blood Slaughterer ready for painting. And finally, there are a few turret options ready for painting, including a executioner, demolisher, eradicator, and vanquisher turret ready to be painted. This will put me close to 2250 fully painted. I will post more pics as I get some of these finished.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/810176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/810176.page GMT
Looking good ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/812098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/812098.page GMT its been a joy to go through

excellent stuff

ABH]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/812565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/812565.page GMT lol! im also a big fan of the malcador, looks like a real tank! keep it up and you'll have a sweet army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/813012.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/813012.page GMT
all three of you guys are looking great.
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1750 Pts - Vraks Renegades

HQ: Company Command Squad (6#, 135 Pts)
4 Company Command Squad @ 135 Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Close Combat Weapon (x4); Flamer (x4); Chimera
1 Company Commander @ [10] Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Refractor Field; Close Combat Weapon; Plasma Pistol; Senior Officer
1 Chimera @ [55] Pts
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Turret Multi-Laser; Heavy Flamer

Elite: Psyker Battle Squad (10#, 155 Pts)
8 Psyker Battle Squad @ 155 Pts
Flak Armour; Close Combat Weapon (x8); Laspistol (x8); Chimera; Soulstorm; Weaken Resolve
1 Overseer @ [0] Pts
Flak Armour; Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
1 Chimera @ [55] Pts
Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Turret Multi-Laser

Troops: Veteran Squad (11#, 170 Pts)
9 Veteran Squad @ 170 Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Close Combat Weapon (x9); Lasgun (x6); Plasmagun (x3); Chimera
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [0] Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Laspistol; Close Combat Weapon
1 Chimera @ [55] Pts
Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Turret Multi-Laser

Troops: Veteran Squad (11#, 145 Pts)
9 Veteran Squad @ 145 Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Close Combat Weapon (x9); Lasgun (x6); Flamer (x2); Meltagun (x1); Chimera
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [0] Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Laspistol; Close Combat Weapon
1 Chimera @ [55] Pts
Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Turret Multi-Laser

Troops: Veteran Squad (10#, 100 Pts)
9 Veteran Squad @ 100 Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Close Combat Weapon (x9); Lasgun (x6); Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [0] Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Laspistol; Close Combat Weapon

Troops: Veteran Squad (10#, 100 Pts)
9 Veteran Squad @ 100 Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Close Combat Weapon (x9); Lasgun (x6); Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [0] Pts
Flak Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Laspistol; Close Combat Weapon

Fast Attack: Valkyrie Assault Carrier Squadron (1#, 130 Pts)
0 Valkyrie Assault Carrier Squadron @ 130 Pts
1 Valkyrie @ [130] Pts
Extra Armor; Searchlight; Multilaser; Multiple Rocket Pods (x2)

Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship Squadron (1#, 130 Pts)
0 Vendetta Gunship Squadron @ 130 Pts
1 Vendetta @ [130] Pts
Extra Armor; Searchlight; Twin-linked Lascannon (x3)

Heavy Support: Hydra Flak Tank Battery (3#, 225 Pts)
1 Hydra Flak Tank Battery @ 225 Pts
Hydra Flak Tank; Hydra Flak Tank
1 Hydra Flak Tank @ [75] Pts
Auto-targeting System; Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin-Linked Hydra Autocannons (x2)
1 Hydra Flak Tank @ [75] Pts
Auto-targeting System; Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin-Linked Hydra Autocannons (x2)
1 Hydra Flak Tank @ [75] Pts
Auto-targeting System; Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin-Linked Hydra Autocannons (x2)

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Squadron (1#, 230 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Squadron @ 230 Pts
Leman Russ Executioner
1 Leman Russ Executioner @ [230] Pts
Executioner Plasma Cannon; Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Plasma Cannon Sponsons (x2)

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Squadron (1#, 230 Pts)
1 Leman Russ Squadron @ 230 Pts
Leman Russ Executioner
1 Leman Russ Executioner @ [230] Pts
Executioner Plasma Cannon; Heavy Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Plasma Cannon Sponsons (x2)

Total Roster Cost: 1750

So whats left to build:

3 Guardsmen with Meltas
1 Vendetta

Whats left to paint:

1 Chimera with Flamer
1 Executioner Turret
1 Hydra

and the 4 things I need to build.

Now that I list it out lilke that, I realize how little I have left to do I need to finish up some Chosen and a Rhino for this week, as part of my CSM army, but starting this weekend I think I can crank out the Chimera, Hydra, and Executioner turret, since they are all already base coated.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/824322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/824322.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/824539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/824539.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/824688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/824688.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/825071.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/825071.page GMT HBs to HFs before the tourney as well)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/825095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/825095.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/880492.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/880492.page GMT FW stuff you have]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/883548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/883548.page GMT CSM Black Legion Army, for which I have some new paint pics to upload soon). However, I had a productive night and built three new Leman Russ variants... 2 Mars Alpha Pattern Leman Russes with Modified Ryza Pattern Exterminator Turrets and one Vanquisher (of same patterns) that will soon become my "Pasquisher" option...

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I will be going to the Battle Foam Tournament in October, and I need to bring a painted army and I have decided to take my Renegades, so I will definitely be painting more to get to a Competitive 1750 point list, so more paint and more changes to the list will be occurring. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/889588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/889588.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/893903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/893903.page GMT

I'm glad you went with the renegades for the upcoming tourney, they're just too cool to leave at home. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/894118.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/894118.page GMT
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As you can see, I still need to paint the two Devil Dogs, but once that is done, I will have the 1750 point completed. I am actually closer to 1750 total than this picture shows, given I also have a painted Valkyrie and another LRBT painted, but this is what I think I am going to take to the tournament.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038584.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038584.page GMT
Say you don't happen to have another wood frame like that do you?

Looks awesome, gonna be a fun tourney.

But really, how did you build that display base?

May your hammer be mighty this weekend. Unless you are playing me, then... wimpy hammer]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038716.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038844.page GMT
I cut 4 pieces of the based board at 2' long with the 45 degree cut on the mitre box (I was a bit lazy so if you look close the corners are not great, but its fine for me.) Nailed the base boards to the edge of the plywood.

Glued some dirt down. Primed black. Took some left over paint I had from my Game Table (Home Depot scan of Dark Flesh and Kommando Khaki for a pint of each) and painted the board. Sprayed on Testor's Dullcoat. Applied scorched grass. Sprayed on Polycoat to seal.

Done ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1038862.page GMT
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I decided to add a new color to the mix, Tau Sept Ochre, just to add a little flavor, but not change the over all color scheme.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1040868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1040868.page GMT
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I just need to paint up 3 objectives and I am ready for the tournament.

Nice thing is that all I need to do is base my Valkyrie and a few more Guardsmen and I will be up to 2000 points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043555.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043555.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043615.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043634.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043634.page GMT
S]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043635.page GMT I am working on a couple other items tonight and tomorrow, that may or may not make it into the list. At this point, I am looking to relax a little though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1043858.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044022.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044558.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044582.page GMT [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/58601-Renegade%20Objectives%20-%20Booby%20Traps.html][img]http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/10/15/58601_sm-Renegade%20Objectives%20-%20Booby%20Traps.jpg[/img][/url]

Nothing too special, but they will do for now They are from the Forgeworld Booby-Traps set. With the idea for the objective being that my Chaos Renegades need to "Set [them] up the bomb."

@slann and Empchild - Yeah I still need to add some Zazz So far, all I can think of to add a little color but still keep in theme is to maybe make the hoods green or red, as suggested much earlier. I am just happy to have a fully painted army finally Now I get to slowly Zazz it up and add some of the more "fun" units, like the Ogryns I have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044884.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1044895.page GMT
I just need to paint up 3 objectives and I am ready for the tournament.[/quote]

Looking good Absolute!

Do we need three objectives for the tournament? If so i'm gonna be up REAL late tonight!

Cheers
Dave]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1045748.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1045748.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1045858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1045858.page GMT P.S: you could have messed with him and told him "ya sure we need 5 objectives and 4 pieces of terrain"...but only if the dark gods were telling you too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1045952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1045952.page GMT
WHAT YOU SHOULD BRING
• Your Army
• At least four (4) copies of you army list
• Rulebooks and any other books you need
• Pen and paper
• Dice and templates
• Tape measure
• Super glue (accidents will happen!)
• Objective markers
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Do I now rules lawyer and say that this could easily be interpreted as including any objective markers, such as the translucent green flags from GW?

@Empchild - haha, that would be funny.. though I think I best watch out for my sportsman score Next thing you know its payback when/if we play each other and I would deserve it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1046032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1046032.page GMT lol I know I like to poke fun with people alot...keeps me sane. I had the priviledge of playing against dave years ago at the vancouver GT. Got to play against his origonal Blood Pact force. Was a great game though I threw him for a loop when my gaming club made me wear a tiara....dont ask. Was a good sport I remember bout it all.
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Cheers
Dave]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1046066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1046066.page GMT GW ones are fine. I'd rather that than dice or coins ;-)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1046187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1046187.page GMT extremely good work]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1048558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1048558.page GMT
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Round 1 vs Space Marines: Drop Pods rain on my parade.

All of the players were great and fun to play against and all of the armies looked incredible and all in all made for an excellent experience for my first 40K tournament.

If any of you end up reading this, Thanks for the great time!

While the Chaos Renegades are not complete, I have joined a Paint and Play league at an FLGS and have decided to work on a Khorne-themed Chaos Space Marine army. I have 1 week to change my mind, but as it stands I will be working on those, in addition to my Chaos Renegades, but it will be split duty so both will be going slow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1053337.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1053337.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1053742.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1053742.page GMT
Good luck with your Khorne CSMs. I look forward to seeing lots of pictures of them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1053809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1053809.page GMT
Cheers
Dave]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1055299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1055299.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1081949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1081949.page GMT
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I bought a Canon 50D with a 50mm Macro Lens and the following images are my first test images with the gear. Since taking these test images a few days ago, I have learned a lot more about aperture (for altering the depth of focus) and exposure settings (for capturing more light), so hopefully the next batch of models I paint up will have some good pictures for the next post, but for now here are a few for my own tracking:

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Black Legion Rhino

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Black Legion Aspiring Champion

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Valkyrie

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Renegade Primaris Psycher

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Necron.. uhh, yeah... This is a Necron Monolith that I own, though this was painted by Shep.

Anyway... this is mostly just for my records in tracking my hobby progress... trying to add miniature photography as part of my hobby set.

Broadside Bash is coming up and I need to adapt my army... I am expecting to paint 3 Vendettas, 2 Manticores, and 2 more Chimeras as part of that effort. Not sure what I will get done though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1263274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1263274.page GMT
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Still need to build one more Vendetta and two more Chimeras (why couldn't march release of new chimeras been sooner)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1276870.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1276870.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1277145.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1277145.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1278194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1278194.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1278531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1278531.page GMT
I didn't have time to paint up a competitive 2000 point list, so I just brought my 1750 point list with some minor additions:

The list was as follows:

CCS (Plasma Pistol, Regimental Standard, 3x Melta, Officer of the Fleet, Astropath, Chimera)
Primaris Psycher

Psycher Battle Squad (9 Psychers)

PCS (4x Flamer, Chimera)
Infantry Squad (1x Plasma Gun, Ministorum Priest, Commissar w/ Power Weapon)
Infantry Squad (1x Plasma Gun)
Infantry Squad (1x Plasma Gun)
HWS (3x Autocannon)

Veteran Squad(2x Shotgun, 3x Melta, Chimera w/ Hull-mounted Heavy Flamer)

Devil Dog
Devil Dog

LR Executioner w/ Plasma Cannon Sponsons
LR Demolisher w/ Plasma Cannon Sponsons
3x Hydra

As you might see from the inclusion of an Astropath, without anything really interesting to reserve, I just put in models that I had painted and didn't worry about being competitive

I knew I was bringing a knife to a gunfight (maybe not a good analogy, given I am playing guard) and my results showed it. I went 2-2-1. 4 out of 5 of my games were fun.

I am not going to do battle reports since I wasn't being competitive and just having fun with my list. However, I did play the following:

Game 1: Imperial Guard w/ WH Allies, Table Corner Objectives. My opponent also had a "fun" IG list that ran two 30 man blobs with Commissars, 2 LRBT, 1 Vanquisher, 1 Valkyries, and a smattering of Witch Hunter. He was very fun to play. The only problem with this game is that when teh time hit 50 minutes, I hear 15 minutes and we stopped with that last turn where we could have easily played another turn. I still managed to get a minor victory and had fun.

Game 2: Dark Eldar. This was my funnest game. Sieze Ground Variant (Cumulative Scoring 3 objectives, middle is worth d3 each turn). I didn't realize it was cumulative scoring until end of turn 1 and I lost this game. It was still my favorite game of the event and I had fun have my hydras light up a raider every turn.... lots of raiders and ravagers here.

Game 3: General Paton's Orks. Variant Annihilation. Was fun themed army. Unfortunately, I play against Orks all the time and I would have prefer to play somethign different, but I still ahd fun. We tied. We had a few rules debates, but this happens and I think we were both ok with how everything went. Regardless, I had fun

Game 4: Catachan IG. Sieze Ground Variant. Played against an army that used a lot of Camo Nettings, Great Themed Army. However, my opponent played incredibly slow... Deployment took forever. He was playing fourth edition line of sight rules for vehicles and I was tired of arguing and was so frustrated that I "gave up." I was so frustrated during turn 1 that I didnt even use half my army and had a horrible experience, by the time we got to the bottom of 3 it was going so slow I just conceded the mission and gave him the major victory. I had NO FUN in this game, I didnt care if I won or not, I just wanted to have fun... I was seriously ready to start throwing my models against the wall and go home Yes... tempter tantrum to the extreme I had better sense than that and just waited until lunch to vent.

Game 5: Tyranids. Almost same as Game 2 for mission. Was really hoping for a good time for my last game and was fortunate to play against an army I usually don't play against and against a fun-spirited player. Learning my lessons from Game 2, I charge forward with my entire oarmy onto the objectives and built up an early lead.. knowing I would soon be crushed by a swarm of monsters. This game went slow, but only because I had so much to shoot and he had so much to move.. I say slow but we both moved fast, so it was still good. End of game, he had some bad dice and could get me of the objectives, so I get a Massacre Win.


Slaughter in Space is next and I want to bring a competitive list next time, so you might actually see some pics of newly painted models soon

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1335682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1335682.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1341603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1341603.page GMT Even with a macro lens, you will still get depth of field if you are too close, as can be seen on the tail of the valk shot for example.

I recently went through similar experiments after getting a macro for my Nikon, and like an ordinary lens, if you want to eliminate the depth of field, you have to shoot from further back than you think. Your camera has enough resolution and a good enough sensor that you will get huge shots anyways, even if they look small in the viewfinder. That is of course, only if you don't want depth of field on your shots ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1342332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1342332.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1342670.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/230312/1342670.page GMT