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it may become obsolete, but some of us will still kick it old school baby! WAHOOO!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794780.page GMT
I dunno why, but it looks fugly. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794781.page GMT
I think the heads are really cool, but I personally prefer the Death Korps 'pipe' masks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794794.page GMT
As for these heads and indeed other heads, bodies, arms and other paraphernalia, what's the score with using them for GW events?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794821.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794821.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/794825.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795022.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795075.page GMT
It might look kind of cool as a helmet/mask to differentiate a different unit, like engineers or something.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795109.page GMT
Other than that I don't really care which head makes it in the final production, they are all quite nice.

Greets
Schepp himself]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795128.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795128.page GMT
[quote=BrianCox]Sons and daughters of Helghan. This much I vow.

The history of these days will be written in blood. By crushing the armies of our enemy, by seizing the weapons they thought to turn against us, we are fighting for our very existence.

But if there are those who would deny us peace; refuse us our rightful place in the universe, then we will unleash such terrible vengeance that generations yet unborn will cry out in anguish!

The enemy may shatter our bodies, but they cannot break our spirit.

Even now they advance on our home world, to seize by force what they cannot claim by right. They cannot imagine what awaits them.

WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES.

Though they sweep over our lands like the sands of winter; Never again will we bow before them; Never again endure their oppression; Never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy; fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares. Drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood.

And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities ...

... they will know, Helghan belongs to the Helghast.[/quote]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795145.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795145.page GMT
Oh yeah, I like the detial on the heads too. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795156.page GMT
http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2009/06/23/sf-greatcoat-helmets/page1/ ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795185.page GMT
I don't know why I think that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/795322.page GMT
I don't know why I think that.[/quote]

It bears a passing resemblance to the Star Wars [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galactic_Marines]Galactic Marines[/url] / [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Snowtrooper]Snowtroopers[/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796150.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796150.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796227.page GMT
Then it's off to the printer for a few prototypes to paint and use in displays, and then we can finally get our grubby little hands on them]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796256.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796256.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796280.page GMT
Such is "progress". We have the same thing in my career field. Drop me into 50 years ago, and I wouldn't have the faintest clue on how to do my job.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796596.page GMT IT's difficult to look at larger 3-D renders on a screen and see what will look good in 28mm plastic.

My guess is that masks without the trailing tube will be better- especially the 3rd of the larger ones, on the right (3rd from left on top row, among the smaller ones). Also, that blast mask just won't look good in real life because the eye slits will be too small, narrow and close to the brim of the helmet.

Perhaps such difference in detail and realism before plastic molding might be a drawback of 3-d rendering vs. traditional sculpting. Rapid prototyping with decent detail could negate the drawback, but that's a ways away, isn't it?

Regardless: I am so, so, SO happy that WGF is making these. I hope they make a bank doing what GW should have done years ago.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/796713.page GMT I would love it if they have:

-Breather tube
-Large Gas mask lenses

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From what I understand, when designing a completely new model from the ground up, traditional sculpting is faster. The analogy I heard is that for comic books inking a drawing by hand is much faster for a skilled inker than tracing on the computer.

I think there will always be a place for traditional sculpting, but computer generated rendering is ideal for a number of applications.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/797095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/797095.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/797118.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/797118.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/800117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/800117.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804148.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804148.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804206.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804206.page GMT
A lot of games artists like to use materials and paper drawings for similar reasons.

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A lot of games artists like to use materials and paper drawings for similar reasons.

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Some of us still like to prepare written stuff on paper before we type a first draft.

Crazy, I know.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804347.page GMT
A lot of games artists like to use materials and paper drawings for similar reasons.

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Some of us still like to prepare written stuff on paper before we type a first draft.

Crazy, I know.[/quote]Not crazy, but stylishly old-fashioned. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804449.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804474.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/804474.page GMT
those helmets are cool, but also cause me to have horrible autocad class flashbacks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/805407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/805407.page GMT
As for these heads and indeed other heads, bodies, arms and other paraphernalia, what's the score with using them for GW events?[/quote]

You could use em anywhere, as long as 75% of the model is "GW" stuff you are cool. The head doesn't take up that much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/805464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/805464.page GMT
I don't know why I think that.[/quote]
Good call! Aside from it looking like a Star Wars Snowtrooper (with a face), it's got eye slits like those seen in Inuit snow goggles.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/806888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245450/806888.page GMT