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I need a "Patriarch on a Throne" model.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800620.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800622.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800622.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800655.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800655.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800658.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800687.page GMT
I like the Old Models a lot, I don't know why. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800698.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800756.page GMT
Only cause they are better in every way save being metal than the plastic ones.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800796.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800800.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/800822.page GMT 2nd Ed Aspect Warriors.
Genestealer Hybrids (and associated plastic sprues).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801066.page GMT




Squats!

(Runs and hides)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801098.page GMT Not sure why though...

EDIT - Scratch that, they were rubbish]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801104.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801124.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801124.page GMT

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yeah The female commissar would be nice the game does seem some what sexist I mean they don't have Manny female soldiers besides Sister OF Battle Not Even Female Orks But The commissar would really be nice especially if they remodeled her with a power sword or Bolt Pistol. I would not go back to for to things like feral orks returning though just makes the game harder and more complex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801146.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801146.page GMT
I'll give another vote for the Genestealer Hybrids and Brood Brothers, with the relevant sprues!

Even if it's a limited run (limited in time, not quantity) it's still a stonking idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801248.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801270.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801270.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801276.page GMT
I also doubt they will bother with multi-part models unless there is a huge demand. Even if they did, their overhead would require they charge more than they ever did when the model was originally available. The old 2nd Ed Land Speeder, has as much metal as the thunderfire if not more. It'll end up being $60-$70 because of the low volume of production.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801280.page GMT
I also doubt they will bother with multi-part models unless there is a huge demand. Even if they did, their overhead would require they charge more than they ever did when the model was originally available. The old 2nd Ed Land Speeder, has as much metal as the thunderfire if not more. It'll end up being $60-$70 because of the low volume of production.[/quote]

Not necessarily. GW have shelf space in stores for a finite number of models. Each new sculpt will have an expected sales total, and be priced accordingly (hence why the low sale volume special characters cost a fair bit compared to a similar sized metal model).

Dusting off the old Landspeeder, purely to keep examples the same, wouldn't involve a great deal of cost. Dig out the mold, cast up a couple of hundred, box them, sell them. If it proves particularly popular, cast another couple of hundred. Good thing about the metal models is they can be melted down and recast into something else if they've sat around for a while gathering dust.

I'm fairly sure they would still have the old plastic molds kicking around somewhere. Makes little sense to ditch the old molds after all.

SO multipart models are likely to be available, and with only a slight price premium (there will be one!). And the plastic arms should still be doable in a similar way.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801298.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801298.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/801406.page GMT
We want Smasha Guns, Squig Catapults, Pulsa Rokkitz, Traktor Kannonz and Splatta Gunz back!!!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802125.page GMT GW have shelf space in stores for a finite number of models. Each new sculpt will have an expected sales total, and be priced accordingly (hence why the low sale volume special characters cost a fair bit compared to a similar sized metal model).

Dusting off the old Landspeeder, purely to keep examples the same, wouldn't involve a great deal of cost. Dig out the mold, cast up a couple of hundred, box them, sell them. If it proves particularly popular, cast another couple of hundred. Good thing about the metal models is they can be melted down and recast into something else if they've sat around for a while gathering dust.

I'm fairly sure they would still have the old plastic molds kicking around somewhere. Makes little sense to ditch the old molds after all.

SO multipart models are likely to be available, and with only a slight price premium (there will be one!). And the plastic arms should still be doable in a similar way.[/quote] You obviously haven't worked in any industry that does injection molding.... I have. Those things are heavy requiring special arrangements for storage and require a degree of care irregardless of use. Just storing them you have to regularly oil an care for molds or they rust or deteriorate to a point of being unusable. One reason GW killed the bits selling was because alot of the older molds were dying and they could justify redoing all of them, thus it isn't as simple as just pulling off a dusty shelf of unlimited holding a mint condition 20 year old mold. They will likely make a single new mold for each model and run it till the mold dies. Even just retooling the old injection molds, the plastics would require a quantity exceeding a couple thousand to justify the cost.

When I say "huge demand" I don't mean relative to their normal releases but to the different alternatives they could include in their collectors edition releases; there very well maybe that level of demand but it will have to be higher than the demand for something simpler and easier to do. The volume of models for their collectors edition models, are small relative to their standard range models. If they produce 20,000 Thunderfires and they have to sell it for $50, then for a model like a 2nd edition landspeeder that they only produce 500 models of would need to be sold for about 40% more per model, to cover and justify their setup, production cost, and overhead. If they produce more than the "500" they will reduce the price they'd have to sell them for, but run the risk of selling it for too little, because of the cost of storing the models. Despite what you think storing models and storing molds add up, hundred of dollars a month. That isn't just a measure of actual cost but opportunity cost in tying up resources into something that is sitting instead of selling. This problem is exactly why GW canned the bits and old minis, the way they had been done.

I have to assume GW will TRY to be smart about this and run it like any business venture. They will have a budget and a limited amount of time and effort they can spend on reproducing old models. Who ever GW has responsible for this will undoubtedly be bombarded by requests, so when he has to decide between just the 2nd edition Landspeeder and 10 other individual infantry sized minis you can under stand why the demand for the landspeeder has to out weigh that of those other ten models combined.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802307.page GMT
Id hope to get that DA Plasma Cannon. I still bang my head against the wall that I didn't buy more than 4 of those boxes... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802320.page GMT Make them available online please!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802407.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802722.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/802759.page GMT GW's price is higher there is little reason to sell it for less and if GW's price is less than current market price of those old minis it kills the majority of the ebay market for them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803083.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803094.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803094.page GMT
[img]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1241260_99060103099_Col40kOrkRockBandMain_873x627.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803146.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803146.page GMT Heck, who am I kidding, I would like them to rerelease all the old Imperial Guard models.
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I think what Brooke M meant was this:

[url]http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1150122&prodId=prod1130426[/url]

ie. They ARE available to buy already.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803174.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803375.page GMT
YES!!! Zoats! Zoats! Zoats!
Zoats! Zoats! Zoats!
Zoats! Zoats! Zoats!

Probably some of the coolest old RT figs!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803385.page GMT
I think what Brooke M meant was this:

[url]http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1150122&prodId=prod1130426[/url]

ie. They ARE available to buy already.[/quote]

oh cool, I had no idea. Thanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803389.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803389.page GMT GW compete with itself. For a company that's about pushing the highest quality product they can this would be a good way to tell that a new release isn't as good as an old release, but for a company trying to squeeze every penny out of their customers, it doesn't make much sense.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803425.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/803708.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/804176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/804176.page GMT
Genestealer Cult
40K Slann
Mk. 1 Thunder Armor -- both poses (I have an idea)


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I need a "Patriarch on The Throne" model.[/quote]


fixed!!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/805550.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/805550.page GMT Previous edition Deamonettes get top priority. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/805581.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/805581.page GMT
BYE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/805817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/805817.page GMT
BYE[/quote]

I loved that model for doing conversions. Albeit the pilots sucked. I just like the novelty of the figure. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/806215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/806215.page GMT
We want Smasha Guns, Squig Catapults, Pulsa Rokkitz, Traktor Kannonz and Splatta Gunz back!!!!! [/quote]

Yes!!


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[quote=H.B.M.C.]You want the metal landspeeder? Why?

BYE[/quote]

I agree that metal landspeeder and the speeder bike both look like someone took a growler in the corner and made a mold of it.. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/806478.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/806478.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/806614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/806614.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/808055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/808055.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/808067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/808067.page GMT
I like the Old Models a lot, I don't know why. [/quote]

Their old stuff is so cool! I loved their old plastics.

Genestealers, Genestealer cultists, old plastic Terminators, plastic Necromunda figs, Gorkamorka orks... oh and their Adeptus Titanicus plastics!

great stuff. I'm a big fan of old plastics.

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and bring out the Gorkamorka Diggas and Necromunda metal figs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/817112.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245823/817112.page GMT GW killed the bits selling was because alot of the older molds were dying and they could justify redoing all of them, thus it isn't as simple as just pulling off a dusty shelf of unlimited holding a mint condition 20 year old mold. They will likely make a single new mold for each model and run it till the mold dies. Even just retooling the old injection molds, the plastics would require a quantity exceeding a couple thousand to justify the cost.[/quote]

And you obviously only work with metal moulds. Not every injection moulding business uses metal, i know where i used to work used hard silicon moulds, they don't require lifting agents, and are much cheaper than metal moulds, also require less upkeep. Also there is no detail loss while working with them, if you use them correctly. So GW could quite possibly just have old moulds sitting there waiting for a bit of injection love, who knows.

Old model wise, all the old lesser daemon models would be nice, the guitar totting noise marines would be fun
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GW has only ever used metal molds for their plastic kits. Every publication they've had describing their process has said so. Injection molding by its definition would require a mold made of metal. The pressures would generally exceed the capabilities of rubber. Unless your company is using some exotic proceedure, or simply pouring a resin into a rubber mold it is unlikely your company is using injection molding. A 10-15 ton press is required to keep the sort of molds GW has shown pictured closed while the heated plastic is forced into the cavity. A rubber mold would deflect and destort the cavity under even the lightest injection molding machines' presses tonnage.

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