http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/6.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net GW.

We know 'all will be revealed' at GD Germany.

So, how does one order the Mystery Box again?

Will it be available online via GW once we actually know what it is?

Or is this 'in store' only?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877693.page GMT
BUT as said before, once it is revealed you will be able to pre-order it if you like.

And yes, the contents will be revealed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877699.page GMT
I don't think it's Space Hulk, as someone here quoted that Jervis stated it wasn't (Though who knows, I don't)

What do I think it is? Maybe an Epic 40k Starter Box, maybe a Reaver Titan, may be a collection of really, really old mini's that GW want to maximize profits on before they destroy the old moulds. Who Knows?

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BUT as said before, once it is revealed you will be able to pre-order it if you like.

And yes, the contents will be revealed.[/quote]

Er, maybe I am then?

I wouldn't put it past me...!

So, what is the BLACK BOX then too?

Yes, apparently I am confused.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877711.page GMT "A boat is a boat , but a mystery box can be anything! ...... even a boat!"

Peter from Family Guy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877712.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877715.page GMT
BUT as said before, once it is revealed you will be able to pre-order it if you like.

And yes, the contents will be revealed.[/quote]

Er, maybe I am then?

I wouldn't put it past me...!

So, what is the BLACK BOX then too?

Yes, apparently I am confused.[/quote]The black box is the box that stores get about a month in advance with the releases of the upcoming month. Usually just the sprues, no boxes or instructions included. For example: the Amsterdam store's Black Box for August contained two Demolisher kits, one Hellhound kit, one Planetary Empires kit plus two Hive City tiles and a how to paint tanks book.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877721.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877721.page GMT
Oh sod it, I'm going to ask. What is the PAN FO?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877731.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877744.page GMT GW's got this "We've never tried this crap before" box"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877747.page GMT
The "Mystery Box" of "We've Never Done It Before" which will (allegedly) be revealed at GD Germany.

NOTE: REVEALED. NOT REVILED.

NOTE 2: It MIGHT be a good idea to keep op topic in this thread.

You know, just sayin'.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877752.page GMT
Ah, the one thing I didn't guess (possibly because pandas come from China and not Japan). Still, sounds kind of fun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877756.page GMT FAQs and Errata that fix real problems (like, do deffrollas ram, can you disembark from a Valkyrie, etc.). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877783.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877783.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877788.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877801.page GMT Seriously? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877803.page GMT GD UK.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877835.page GMT
GeeDub has the upper hand....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877858.page GMT GD UK.[/quote]

oooooo!! That is exciting if that was to happen. Not heard about that as a possibility. Can you imagine the number of purity seals and skulls you can fit on a primarch model to get patented GW GrimDark - hundreds?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877869.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877869.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877893.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877893.page GMT
Look for the "never done before" part to be about the corridors or miniatures or something.

The studio's likely under a gag order re: SH. If Jervis answered anything other than "no" when asked, he'd be giving it away. So he lied. *shrug*

The irony is that people might be disappointed when it's only SH. Whereas if they'd just announced SH, there'd be more excitement. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877895.page GMT
Maybe it's the 40K version of Warhammer Quest ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877896.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877899.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877899.page GMT GW some credit for keeping it under lock and key for so long. I think it goes to show that GW could be intentionally leaking some things after all when they want to.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877906.page GMT
IIRC aren't their supposed to be 30 figures in the new SH box? 10 Termies and 20 Genestealers?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877916.page GMT gw version of monopoly....except with 3 times as many spaces that cost you money]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877941.page GMT
40k LARP ?

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877953.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/877953.page GMT Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878028.page GMT GD UK.[/quote]

oooooo!! That is exciting if that was to happen. Not heard about that as a possibility. [/quote]

Me neither!

Now THAT would get me going...

I still hope it is Space Hulk though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878081.page GMT can it be ordered?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878082.page GMT can it be ordered?[/quote]

Yes

You send me money, and I'll send you a box with something mysterious inside.

Deal?



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so im guessing from what iev read is that its just a mystery box?
any idea on size or price so far?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878087.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878087.page GMT
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/07/gw-40k-rumors-mystery-box.html

All will be revealed in Germany in 2 weeks, give or take...

It looks like you'll have to be 'in store' to get it though?

Now THAT is lame, if true...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878099.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878099.page GMT
GeeDub has the upper hand....[/quote]

Maybe Andy Chamber's head will be in the box...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878103.page GMT

so im guessing from what iev read is that its just a mystery box?
any idea on size or price so far?[/quote]

Ok, I thought you were making a joke because everybody here has been speculating about it lately (I even hear some have sleepless nights).

The content of the secret box will be revealed mid August. Maybe at Games Day Germany, which is the 16th. After they reveal what will be inside you can pre-order it, and collect it at a GW store at the release date, which is september 6th if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if you can only pick it up at the store, but I think so.

I recently spoke to someone who claims to have seen the product inside (and the source was as credible as can be in cases like these), and he gave a few spoilers. Among other things he said the price will be about 90 Euros and there will be approx. 30 miniatures inside.

Sounds like Space Hulk, but GW has been denying it. So either they lie, or it is something else. I wouldn't rule out either possibility.


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[quote=Alpharius]See here:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/07/gw-40k-rumors-mystery-box.html

All will be revealed in Germany in 2 weeks, give or take...

It looks like you'll have to be 'in store' to get it though?

Now THAT is lame, if true...[/quote]


Some of that info contradicts what I was told, like the price and their claim that it is something they have never done before (the employee said they did do this before, but not this good). I'm almost 100% sure he said I would be able to pre order it and pick it up the day it is released.

Of course we can't be sure if any of the info is correct until it is actually revealed, so who knows.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878107.page GMT

so it looks like it will be £50?

narrows it down to either hulk (finally!) or yet another battleforce (they wouldnt do all this for that)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878131.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878167.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878167.page GMT lol)

only other things they keep around the £50 mark are box games, and with all the hype about hulk i wouldnt be supprised if it was.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878172.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878172.page GMT
This thread reminded me of this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878307.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878310.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878320.page GMT
So, you're telling me that either:

1. Those four people worked DAMNED hard to make all the "whatevers" that they're going to sell.

OR

2. They killed everyone else who worked on the project, like an ancient Egyptian pharoah.



I call shenanigans.


(Ok, option three is that it's all made by non-English speaking Chinese.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878399.page GMT
So, you're telling me that either:

1. Those four people worked DAMNED hard to make all the "whatevers" that they're going to sell.

OR

2. They killed everyone else who worked on the project, like an ancient Egyptian pharoah.



I call shenanigans.


(Ok, option three is that it's all made by non-English speaking Chinese.)[/quote]

i choose option 4, a mass fanboi sacrifice that allowed them to outsource production from hell itself]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878431.page GMT GD Chicago where they showed us just how tight-lipped they had become. They apparently don't [i]want[/i] me to get excited about their products, and it's working. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878458.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878458.page GMT
GW has a product that is being mass produced in china right now this "mystery box" is likely to be it. All signs point towards pre-paint space hulk. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878473.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878473.page GMT
So, you're telling me that either:

1. Those four people worked DAMNED hard to make all the "whatevers" that they're going to sell.

OR

2. They killed everyone else who worked on the project, like an ancient Egyptian pharoah.



I call shenanigans.


(Ok, option three is that it's all made by non-English speaking Chinese.)[/quote]

I believe someone already linked, this, but it bears repeating.

[img]http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070523.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878562.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878562.page GMT
And now you know...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878583.page GMT
I'm person number 3, and I know the answer.



It's a box full of new big hat stunties, and under the box is a sheet of paper that says: We've been working on this update for the past 3 years and none of you knew about it until now!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878746.page GMT GD Chicago speculation got you what? Jack!

And now we're doing it again? Sad (middle english sex)ers, all of us! Even me, for bothering to reply to this garbage thread.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878766.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878769.page GMT
And pain.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878833.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878833.page GMT
So, you're telling me that either:

1. Those four people worked DAMNED hard to make all the "whatevers" that they're going to sell.

OR

2. They killed everyone else who worked on the project, like an ancient Egyptian pharoah.



I call shenanigans.


(Ok, option three is that it's all made by non-English speaking Chinese.)[/quote]
On the contrary, option #2 seems perfectly in line with standard GW business practice ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878834.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878834.page GMT
On the front it had a Chaos Mark and the words: "Everything you've been told is a lie"

and on the rear: "The Emperor is the only truth"

I saw the shirts myself but can't tell for certain if they are MB related.

My guess if it is....Inquistion board game ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878841.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878841.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878842.page GMT
On the front it had a Chaos Mark and the words: "Everything you've been told is a lie"

and on the rear: "The Emperor is the only truth"

I saw the shirts myself but can't tell for certain if they are MB related.

My guess if it is....Inquistion board game [/quote]

Now that's interesting!

If they are related, that certainly moves us away from Space Hulk...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878878.page GMT GD Chicago where they showed us just how tight-lipped they had become. They apparently don't [i]want[/i] me to get excited about their products, and it's working. [/quote]

Precisely how I feel. Part of me hopes this is just a phase that will pass once they see what a horrible marketing idea it is to utterly deprive your fans of anything they might possibly get excited about, and fire the genius responsible. But I get the sinking feeling they will ignorantly carry on like this. Shame really. I used to love talking about upcoming releases. GW has taken that away, effectively killing my enthusiasm for everything they do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878905.page GMT GW has been moving in this direction for a while now.

I think they figured the negative attention some releases were garnering outweighed any positive benefits?

Anyway, I still don't think GW has 'figured out' the Internet yet...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878916.page GMT

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Though 28mm Inquisitor sounds sexy, here's hoping that the models will be spanking good and if it's a bit like the old 54mm stuff, my girl is bound to jump in again with both feet. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878922.page GMT GW's 'return' to online news/rumors at their Website.

Hurrah?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878925.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878952.page GMT GW store?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878963.page GMT
Oh sod it, I'm going to ask. What is the PAN FO?[/quote]

Pan Fo...

Looks like its time for Waaagh_Gonads to deliver.
[img]http://www.nationallampoon.com/files/2009/05/postman.jpg[/img]


A teaser:
[quote]
INTRODUCTION
Welcome to CODEX : Pan Fo. These pages contain information that the Pan Fo guard with the up most secrecy, all who read this are swan not to revile it to any alien race. The quest for a new home may be long, and hard, but it is in the up most importance. The Pan Fo aren’t evil, or good, they are natural. This does not mean that they are skilled in the art of war, far from it. With this information you will do what is necessary, and no more. Keep it save.[/quote]

Yes you read it right, they move by farting...
[quote]They had the ability to literally swim though air by forcing air out from under themselves creating a area that propel them a small amount of the ground.[/quote]

The truth will be reviled.

[url]http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/206376.page#223205 [/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/878973.page GMT
[quote=Alpharius]Interestingly enough, the T-Shirts are now being said to promote GW's 'return' to online news/rumors at their Website.

Hurrah?[/quote]

...wait, who said that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879015.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879015.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879018.page GMT
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879054.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879054.page GMT
And pain.[/quote]

"I drink your milkshake. I drink it up!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879070.page GMT GW's 'return' to online news/rumors at their Website.

Hurrah?[/quote]Ha, that's a funny way of putting it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879119.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879183.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879183.page GMT GW. I know they don't mean it like that, but They need to communicate a bit better with their customers, or not at all.

Its odd, I've played Warhammer for about seventeen years. I have no plans to stop anytime soon, and I imagine I'll play for seventeen more years.

However, between idiotic shenanigans like this, and their monstrous prices, I have not purchased any related GW products in about a year. I do have the luxury of a mountain of unpainted stuff, But I will not be buying anything new from them anytime soon.

Seventy to a hundred dollars for a board game? It would seem to me that's the real surprise.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879210.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879210.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879216.page GMT GW. I know they don't mean it like that, but They need to communicate a bit better with their customers, or not at all.

Its odd, I've played Warhammer for about seventeen years. I have no plans to stop anytime soon, and I imagine I'll play for seventeen more years.

However, between idiotic shenanigans like this, and their monstrous prices, I have not purchased any related GW products in about a year. I do have the luxury of a mountain of unpainted stuff, But I will not be buying anything new from them anytime soon.

Seventy to a hundred dollars for a board game? It would seem to me that's the real surprise.[/quote]

Right. For the last time (sorry to pick on you for this Pox. Isn't personal I assure you).

The mystery box isn't necessarly anything that has been rumoured. The only thing we know is that on 17th August 2009, a new item comes for advanced order. The staff don't know what this is any more than we do. We will not be ordering blind. The second it hits the pre-order section, it will cease to be a mystery.

It is not necessarily Space Hulk. It is not necessarily a Board Game. It is not necessarily something GW have never done before. BolS presented a round of up sorts, selected repeated grumblings from around the Web, none of which are necessarily true or related to one another.

Me, I reckon it's Azhag The Slaughterer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879237.page GMT
Let's all cross our green fingers and hope this is true.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879248.page GMT WD 356]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879252.page GMT
Well, at least I know he's on his way.


Still, it's probably (hopefully) discounts. In a box.


They've never done it before...right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879254.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879261.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879261.page GMT
And nobody wants that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879277.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879352.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879352.page GMT
Been done before, I have it sitting in my cupboard - great game though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879358.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879360.page GMT GW has 'figured out' the Internet yet...[/quote]
Oh I'm positive they haven't. Does anybody remember when GW had their own official forums on their website? It was a great place to chat about news and rumors and your favorite armies, but, like every forum in existence, there was a lot of frustrated and negative commentary. I get the feeling that GW representatives like Jervis get all butt-hurt when they get wind of angry customers, so they bury their heads in the ground (by, say, annihilating their own forums and refusing to allow any hints to circulate so they can't be criticized?) They haven't yet reached the maturity to understand that even negative expression from fans is good and generates excited anticipation. It means people care. Yet GW is happily strolling down the road toward effectively preventing us from caring...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879376.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879376.page GMT
Yep, a lot of boardgames are pushing 70.00 to 80.00 right now.


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[quote=studderingdave]aww crap, you mean i actually have to go to a GW store?[/quote]

Nope. In the US, Independent shops will be getting them.

Already asked the question and was assured that my shops would be able to order them. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879394.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879394.page GMT GW. I know they don't mean it like that, but They need to communicate a bit better with their customers, or not at all.

Its odd, I've played Warhammer for about seventeen years. I have no plans to stop anytime soon, and I imagine I'll play for seventeen more years.

However, between idiotic shenanigans like this, and their monstrous prices, I have not purchased any related GW products in about a year. I do have the luxury of a mountain of unpainted stuff, But I will not be buying anything new from them anytime soon.

Seventy to a hundred dollars for a board game? It would seem to me that's the real surprise.[/quote]

Right. For the last time (sorry to pick on you for this Pox. Isn't personal I assure you).

The mystery box isn't necessarly anything that has been rumoured. The only thing we know is that on 17th August 2009, a new item comes for advanced order. The staff don't know what this is any more than we do. We will not be ordering blind. The second it hits the pre-order section, it will cease to be a mystery.

It is not necessarily Space Hulk. It is not necessarily a Board Game. It is not necessarily something GW have never done before. BolS presented a round of up sorts, selected repeated grumblings from around the Web, none of which are necessarily true or related to one another.

Me, I reckon it's Azhag The Slaughterer.[/quote]

Welp, my bad, board games are that expensive. And I suppose Azhag does make sense, if they're finally going to launch their "master class" range of models. I just don't know why they would release it as a limited edition model.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879549.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879549.page GMT GW some credit for keeping it under lock and key for so long. I think it goes to show that GW could be intentionally leaking some things after all when they want to.[/quote]

Of course, if it is Space Hulk then it was leaked, ages ago.

But I suppose it demonstrates that muddying the water works.

Phazer]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879569.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879782.page GMT
but ill have to agree with you there, bound to be hulk after all this time

(and not to the suspension part, if i get suspended the MOD will die )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879796.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879811.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879813.page GMT
Done!

[quote=mikhaila]

Nope. In the US, Independent shops will be getting them.

Already asked the question and was assured that my shops would be able to order them. [/quote]

Will independent shops be able to get as many as they want?

I really don't have a local store anymore... I may need to find someone who'll take a 'mail order' request!

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Doesn't sound very Space Hulk-y.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879975.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879975.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879980.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/879980.page GMT
*** Second wave of Imperial Guard, with a limited/special edition boxed set of Lord Solar Macharius and command staff.*** (jk) I really wish they would.

But second wave of Imp Guard is to be released very soon, could be related...???]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880024.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880080.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880080.page GMT
Doesn't sound very Space Hulk-y.[/quote]

No indeed, that sounds more like an mmorpg... Which is impossible. But some kinda online thing perhaps...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880084.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880084.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880184.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880184.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880192.page GMT
...I don't really get it. How have they been living in that box for so long? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880218.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880489.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880489.page GMT
...I don't really get it. How have they been living in that box for so long? [/quote]

why should we see us as highlight of the year?

Remember we dont have this box presented to us, our hints consist of dropping a bomb....
Maybe the british are jealous of the continentals getting all the sneak peeks ( france, spain, italy ) and try to erase all evidence
of GW's presence outside the UK?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880497.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880567.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880567.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880654.page GMT
After all, you have a DH quote on one side, and WH on the other.

[i]This[/i] box is CATEGORICALLY NOT Warhammer Quest.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880758.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880758.page GMT GW opening a new rumors section on their website? Or was that just a guess?

If so, the box can still be anything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880790.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880790.page GMT
As someone pointe dout earlier, I'm not a child, I dont need to play these idiotic games. If its something very cool, maybe I'll get it.

If your expecting me to jump through hoops and line up on a specific day and such, they can just shove it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880815.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880815.page GMT

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T-Shirts are clearly a Codex: Inquisition related accident - I figure they've been accidentally shipped early.

After all, you have a DH quote on one side, and WH on the other.

This box is CATEGORICALLY NOT Warhammer Quest. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880825.page GMT

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T-Shirts are clearly a Codex: Inquisition related accident - I figure they've been accidentally shipped early.

After all, you have a DH quote on one side, and WH on the other.

This box is CATEGORICALLY NOT Warhammer Quest. [/quote]


Is this supposed to be a secret code, or what is it supposed to be ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880858.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880863.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880863.page GMT

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T-Shirts are clearly a Codex: Inquisition related accident - I figure they've been accidentally shipped early.

After all, you have a DH quote on one side, and WH on the other.

This box is CATEGORICALLY NOT Warhammer Quest. [/quote][i]Show[/i] us your proof PLEASE. If you're just basing this off the origins of the two quotes you might as well get an account with some stupid place.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880864.page GMT Thank you - I had almost forgotten how much I love this song.
EDIT: Sigh, and it also reminded me of how much I hate the Youtube country restrictions.

Seriously, why is it that like 50% of all songs are "not available in my country"? Oh well, I'll just listen to it on spotify -.-]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880881.page GMT
A mod made this thread.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/880937.page GMT
Mob Sexy is possibly a new game similar to legends of the old west but set in mafia New York]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881111.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881119.page GMT
And how do you know this? Only one way to prove it. PM me the night before it's announced, telling me what it is. Then I can verify to Dakka you weren't pulling our chain.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881124.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881124.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881126.page GMT
Oh arr, and do you [i]know[/i] know whats inside it, as in first hand information, or have you been told by an assumingly good source as to what it is? Don't need to know your source if it's the latter!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881129.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881129.page GMT [/quote]
It could be...

But were also fine if you just tell us NOW. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881130.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881130.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881132.page GMT
A mod made this thread.[/quote]

Well...

While I did make this thread, and I am a Mod, it certainly doesn't mean anything other than just that.

I thought we were close enough to the launch that we might be able to 'figure this out'.

Either that or Philbrad, Brimstone, or someone else would drift by and drop a hint that would help us out.

If this thread doesn't just die out of its own lack on info, or drifts too far afield, I'm sure it will suffer the same fate of all such threads...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881223.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881223.page GMT
@Elessar
Failboat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881225.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881225.page GMT
@Elessar
Failboat.[/quote]

I'm on a BOAT! Apparently...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881227.page GMT
Doesn't sound very Space Hulk-y.[/quote]

Obviously it's a 40k version of Singstar with various Grimdark Hymns and Nursery Rhymes.....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881244.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881270.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881270.page GMT GW if it is something a bit meh.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881279.page GMT GW certainly could have NOT said anything and simply let it be a surprise on the 16th as well.

So, they are at least somewhat 'guilty' along with the rest of us.

Of course, it could still turn out to be all things to all people, so don't give up yet!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881281.page GMT GW have said is that there is a release on the 16th, and thats it.

The rest as far as I can make it purely Interweb Speculation. As I said earlier, the BolS report is more a rumour consolidation than a single, cohesive rumour. All those things could have been mentioned individually...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881285.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881285.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881305.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881305.page GMT
Oh sod it, I'm going to ask. What is the PAN FO?[/quote]

The pan is FO cookin silly!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881306.page GMT GW is gonna charge 50$ for and give you a limited edition # to show you were a party of a short print run!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881399.page GMT GW have said is that there is a release on the 16th, and thats it.

The rest as far as I can make it purely Interweb Speculation. As I said earlier, the BolS report is more a rumour consolidation than a single, cohesive rumour. All those things could have been mentioned individually...[/quote]

Um, it wasn't quite as simple as that.

GW HAS hyped this a bit more than that, what with the "never been done before", "limted quantities, when they're gone they're gone!" and some strange "We're droppin' the bomb on the 16th" talk...

That's a tad more than "Stay tuned for...{yawn]...some odd release at GD Germany."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881404.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881404.page GMT
Lol, looks like GW needs some hype during the GenCon days without having to
go to GenCon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881412.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881418.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881447.page GMT
I mean, to the extent that I care what it is.

Which is by no means a guaranteed sale, but I'll be paying attention.

Of course, I 'pay attention' every day anyway, so...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881492.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881492.page GMT GW website. They are not related to the "Mystery Box".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881497.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881583.page GMT
might be a box of new GW scenery ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881591.page GMT

So more terrain would be great, and I've heard more rumours about that Indomitable Fortress thing from the PS book actually being released... so who knows. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881595.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881595.page GMT lol, the bastion isnt bad, and for GW its fairly cheap XD
take it apart and use as a bunker

or, ill get some pics of my friends tower (using 5 bastions)

only problem being we need rules for the fucker if it collapses.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/881601.page GMT He may or may not be alive.
You'll only know if you open it, otherwise he could be considered both alive and dead!

Oooo, a mystery! *waggles fingers*]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882731.page GMT

I wonder how much nerd rage will form if turns out that Space Hulk is:

1) Not the Mystery Box
2) Coming out anytime soon, if ever again

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882764.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882764.page GMT GW supports their other games beyond 40K/Fantasy/Rings, so this would be no different.

And why must it be 'nerd rage'. Jesus fucking Christ on a God-damned mother fucking pogo-stick I hate that phrase.

It seems that anyone who isn't annoyed can simply class the people who are annoyed as 'nerd-raging', instantly trivialising their complaint. It's an institutionalised ad hominem attack and it needs to stop.

It's almost as annoying as that fucking 'Speehs Mahreens' meme.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882769.page GMT
Blasphemy is ok, but you need to make minor adjustments to make certain four-letter words ok? Interesting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882773.page GMT There are plans, no exact date yet, but possibly later this year!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882777.page GMT GW approved almost-swear kiddy safe version of a popular epithet.

Spase mareens! is one of my favorites.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882789.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882789.page GMT
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/07/gw-40k-rumors-mystery-box.html

I hope they don't make it so limited that no one can actually get hold of it. I'm fed up of "limited editions" of just about anything, I just want to see miniatures in a catalog and be able to buy them. I don't have access to a GW store but would like a fair opportunity to have the chance to buy the contents of this "mystery box" if they interest me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882790.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882790.page GMT
Whats in the box?


That's from [i]Se7en[/i] if you didn't know.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882874.page GMT GW is gonna charge 50$ for and give you a limited edition # to show you were a party of a short print run![/quote]
Because of that is why I am less likely to by it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882920.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882939.page GMT
D.. R.. I.. N.. K.. M.. O.. R.. E.. O.. V.. A.. L.. T.. I.. N.. E..
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882950.page GMT GW have started wearing new shirts that say "everything youve been told is a lie," when I asked the manager about it he said it was in reference to bell of lost souls and warseer spreading rumors about some mystery box.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882962.page GMT
Years ago they released a metal thunderhawk in a wooden box for something like $1,000 as a special edition collectors dealie.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882977.page GMT GW have started wearing new shirts that say "everything youve been told is a lie," when I asked the manager about it he said it was in reference to bell of lost souls and warseer spreading rumors about some mystery box.[/quote]

and dakka! don't forget dakka! heck, we're gossiping just as much as much as those other old ladies! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/882982.page GMT GW have started wearing new shirts that say "everything youve been told is a lie," when I asked the manager about it he said it was in reference to bell of lost souls and warseer spreading rumors about some mystery box.[/quote]

I call BS. They were just messing with you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883008.page GMT GW approved almost-swear kiddy safe version of a popular epithet.[/quote]
To be fair, HBMC did in fact use the real F-word, the Dakka filter simply bowdlerized him. Just quote his post and check the un-PC version of his post in the textbox.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883010.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883099.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883099.page GMT
keeping your account away from suspensions afterwards is another matter.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883141.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883141.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883218.page GMT GW have started wearing new shirts that say "everything youve been told is a lie," when I asked the manager about it he said it was in reference to bell of lost souls and warseer spreading rumors about some mystery box.[/quote]

I call BS. They were just messing with you.[/quote]

No, it's the truth. I talked to a regional manager at the Seattle Battle bunker and he said the same thing about the new shirts. Apparently the studio doesn't like how far and wide the rumors are on sites like BoLS, etc (how wrong they are), so they had the shirts made.

However, that's a problem of their own making by choosing to keep their cards so close to their chest about unreleased product. Don't comment on things: people will speculate. Don't like it? Say something concrete. Or make a new shirt. Or whatever. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883219.page GMT
You'd better be talking about the Bolter-hole, the Flamer-hole and the Melta-hole, son. This is a family website!

=================

How long before those shirts are available on GW mail-order for $30 USD? Make sure to snap up all the XXLs while you can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883237.page GMT
You'd better be talking about the Bolter-hole, the Flamer-hole and the Melta-hole, son. This is a family website!
[/quote]

Erm....yes....thats [i]exactly[/i] the three I was meaning.........

(runs away and hides)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883275.page GMT GW supports their other games beyond 40K/Fantasy/Rings, so this would be no different.[/quote]If it is not something players/collectors/whatever group(s) feel is equal to Space Hulk (if it is not Space Hulk), there will be "raging" when the product is announced, even though GW itself has not directly claimed it will be Space Hulk in anyway.

[quote=H.B.M.C.]And why must it be 'nerd rage'.[/quote]Sorry, I have not as yet heard a proper alternative term that accurately describes this phenomenon better than "nerd rage". If you have one, please share, we will try to not let it become a meme. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883320.page GMT
Maybe.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883429.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883455.page GMT
I can see this being true... Only GW would deal with the problem with some vague, meaningless platitude on a T-shirt instead of actually opening their chubby fucking yaps and communicating with their fans about upcoming releases.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883636.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883636.page GMT
Now you can "Hunt for the Fallen" in a box!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883684.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883690.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883690.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883702.page GMT
It's also used by daft programs like Lost to make anything revealed in the previous four series null and void.

Disclaimer - Possibly not used by Lost, but you know what I mean]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883704.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883738.page GMT
Did I do that right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883749.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883749.page GMT GW is going to send free product to independent retailers so...

What do the independent retailers have to pay to ge the box?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883778.page GMT
I can see this being true... Only GW would deal with the problem with some vague, meaningless platitude on a T-shirt instead of actually opening their chubby fucking yaps and communicating with their fans about upcoming releases.[/quote]

Trouble is, when we find out about stuff really early, we all want it there and then, and by the time it comes out, it's old hat as we are drooling over the next big thing due in three months time!

Tight Mouthed Larry can be a very good tactic.

Oh, and don't forget how often people hear rumours which are inaccurate, and judge the new model or book according to the wrong rumours, leading to disappointment and unfair rubbishing of a product!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883786.page GMT
New Inquisitor Codex you say?! *wild speculation begins anew* ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883787.page GMT
New Inquisitor Codex you say?! *wild speculation begins anew* [/quote]They should hang you upside down and beat you to a pulp like a retard with his first piñata. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883862.page GMT
No, it's the truth. I talked to a regional manager at the Seattle Battle bunker and he said the same thing about the new shirts. Apparently the studio doesn't like how far and wide the rumors are on sites like BoLS, etc (how wrong they are), so they had the shirts made.

However, that's a problem of their own making by choosing to keep their cards so close to their chest about unreleased product. Don't comment on things: people will speculate. Don't like it? Say something concrete. Or make a new shirt. Or whatever. [/quote]

The manager I talked to said that people who register with the GW website and elect to get the newsletter will find out about these kinds of things sooner than someone who doesnt. Which still means its going to be up on BoLS, but its going to be from the horses mouth rather than speculation.

He also mentioned that the newsletter is going to go weekly rather than monthly. I hope thats not their "mystery box" right there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883896.page GMT
I bet you that this is something they didn't realize would get this out of control and take a life on of its own.

My bet is still a space marine bobble head.

The day the news is released I think I we will all hear "oh" followed by a big sigh. The posts on Dakka that day will be amusing no doubt.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883913.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883913.page GMT [/quote]

I kind of agree. GW marketing tends to be ham-fisted at best. It may be something entirely uninteresting by the time it comes out, quite posibly something that is new for GW, but everyone else has been doing for years or something.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/883986.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884009.page GMT The posts on Dakka that day will be amusing no doubt.[/quote]

Well said!

I know that, if nothing else, I will certainly enjoy [b][i]THAT[/i][/b]!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884050.page GMT
The Squats weren't wiped out and they have returned to save the galaxy on their three-wheeled pizza delivery scooters.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884059.page GMT GW wants to sell.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884072.page GMT GW is releasing Kriegsspiel and Little Wars with new models. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884202.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884218.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884425.page GMT GW is packing in the whole 'miniature' business and will now only support Fantasy and 40K-based LARPing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884436.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884436.page GMT GW wants to sell.[/quote]
I know you do malfred, I know... That's what we all want, but everyone knows that GW doesn't care what we want. I guarantee that what tumbles out of that mystery box will be some gimmick that nobody asked for.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/884467.page GMT GW wants to sell.[/quote]
I know you do malfred, I know... That's what we all want, but everyone knows that GW doesn't care what we want. I guarantee that what tumbles out of that mystery box will be some gimmick that nobody asked for.[/quote]

OK, you're on!

If you're wrong, per your guarantee, what do you plan to do/offer as compensation?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885117.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885161.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885161.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885166.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885176.page GMT
Well, that would be something new I guess!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885354.page GMT 40k Blood bowl. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885358.page GMT
[img]http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2626/alku8.jpg[/img]

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885377.page GMT 40K Blood Bowl would be awesome! And so would a new army, can be used in ANY of their 3 games . . . a whole army of intergalactic proton powered electrical tenticalled advertising droids . . . with Darth Harrington as their leader! That would be freaking awesome! =D

But seriously, no-one knows, and yes the T-shirts are about getting people to sign up to the website as this gives GW a better idea of how many hobbysits there are, and allows them to send info about new things to everyone, including people don't go into stores regularly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885524.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885856.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885856.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/885986.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886208.page GMT
Okay, I haven't been to any LGS in a while, so when is this "mystery box" supposed to be released?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886236.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886268.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886268.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886306.page GMT [/quote]

Yeah, why not. Who does the best Jervis impression?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886309.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886309.page GMT [/quote]Yeah, cause I'm sure they [i]actually[/i] know ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886323.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886323.page GMT GW wants to sell.[/quote]
I know you do malfred, I know... That's what we all want, but everyone knows that GW doesn't care what we want. I guarantee that what tumbles out of that mystery box will be some gimmick that nobody asked for.[/quote]

OK, you're on!

If you're wrong, per your guarantee, what do you plan to do/offer as compensation?[/quote]
I'll take your wager and raise you a testicle if I'm wrong.
GW has pretty much said "It's something completely new and absolutely unexpectable!!!" Which really means "We spent a bunch of time on something nobody asked for!!!"
I'm fine with GW churning out new 40k projects... AFTER they update 5th edition codices.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886330.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886334.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886345.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886353.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886353.page GMT [/quote]Yeah, cause I'm sure they [i]actually[/i] know [/quote]Personally, I doubt it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886400.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886400.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886408.page GMT
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx_UJxuQGXo&feature=related[/youtube]

This clip was all I could think about when this topic comes to mind. I do hope it is cool and becomes the next, must have thing. Based on its own merit not this cloak and dagger advertising. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886413.page GMT
Sometimes it is the obvious.

But don't you think after all this build up it will be greeted with "meh"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886417.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886417.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886421.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886585.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886588.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886642.page GMT
(my vote is now for a book of fairy tales, grimdarked, with mini's of the characters to paint, all fear the grimdark 3 little pigs of 40k)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886660.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886660.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886682.page GMT GW about what it is . . . but also it has built it so high that like 90% of people will be disappointed, whereas the 10% who were right will buy 10 each lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886693.page GMT
The manager said it was basically 'stop reading the rumour websites, as the GW website will now have more news on'

I'd trust him on this, but hey ho.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886698.page GMT GW site have actual news then?

oh wait..

[img]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m340268a_Knight_Umbar_370.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m340287a_Betrayer.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886710.page GMT LOTR or WOTR lol

Still thinking that the fanboy in me could explode with excitement atm lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886724.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886724.page GMT
Speaking of which, is GW allowed to make up LOTR characters, or does everything they do have to come from Tolkien's stuff (no matter how obscure). How much creative lisence do they have?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/886800.page GMT

So more terrain would be great, and I've heard more rumours about that Indomitable Fortress thing from the PS book actually being released... so who knows. [/quote]

The Indomitable Fortress can be easily made from two or more Bastion kits, a Razorback Twin lascannon Turret, and the Castellan missile noses from the Whirlwind or some other suitable missile system. It's so sweet how the Bastions and Aegis line are so compatible with existing turrets. I'm planning on buying a few more Bastion kits.

[quote=WarsmithMorgoth]I bet its the long-rumored plastic Thunderhawk.

Years ago they released a metal thunderhawk in a wooden box for something like $1,000 as a special edition collectors dealie.

[/quote]

Yeah, they made three of them for a Gamesday during Second Edition days to complement their Chapter of the Ultramarines for one of their first huge dioramas. I guess they decided to put the molds to good use by cranking out 300 or so. They sold 250 of them to the public and gave away a bunch of them until they wore out the molds. I've also got the instruction manual for it. I can't imagine building a box out of pewter...I can't remember what they did for a flying base, but if a flying base can't handle Sammael on a jetbike, I'm sure it wouldn't last long with 25 pounds of pewter on top of it..

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I know you can do an approximation of the Indomitable Fortress using standard PS stuff, but I'm talking about the actual kit they showed in the PS book.

And yes, the compatabilty with current turrets is beyond awesome. You can take one of the ground-based Lascannons or Quad-Cannons and swap them with any Razorback TL-Las, HB or Assault Cannon. Instant Tarantulas!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887097.page GMT
Speaking of which, is GW allowed to make up LOTR characters, or does everything they do have to come from Tolkien's stuff (no matter how obscure). How much creative lisence do they have?[/quote]Just new designs of GW's own hand to help and make the Nine more diverse. The novels only speak of the Witch King and Khamul the Easterling IRC, so GW did their own take on the other kings. They also made up the names for them along with the armour / clothing designs. The Tolkien foundation gave them a green light on these designs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887107.page GMT
Speaking of which, is GW allowed to make up LOTR characters, or does everything they do have to come from Tolkien's stuff (no matter how obscure). How much creative lisence do they have?[/quote]They can use any info about a character directly mentioned in the main texts and introductions of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings or added by the movies. They also have access to some of the stuff added by Iron Crown Enterprises when they had the license (even though Saul did not actually have those rights to give to New Line but the movies used elements that I.C.E. created anyway). They can add characters as they please (within limits and they still have to have approval) and can add new material to existing characters/creatures such as building up the Ringwraiths into actual characters instead of them staying nameless/backgroundless boogiemen. They do not have access to any material created by Christopher Tolkien (this includes Unfinished Tales and The Silmarillion) nor most of the info in the appendices of The Return of the King.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887137.page GMT
What's the reason behind this?
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What's the reason behind this?
[/quote]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

GW's license is through the movie release and they only bought the rights to the books previously mentioned. every book and/or country/region they release stuff in costs money.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887265.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/887265.page GMT
The manager said it was basically 'stop reading the rumour websites, as the GW website will now have more news on'

I'd trust him on this, but hey ho.[/quote]

Yeah right.

"Hey everyone, only read the propaganda on our internet store."

Like anyone is actually going to fall for that and stop reading the other sites. It's a waste of their effort.
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Speaking of which, is GW allowed to make up LOTR characters, or does everything they do have to come from Tolkien's stuff (no matter how obscure). How much creative lisence do they have?[/quote]

I dunno, I always assumed there were nine ringwraiths, but now it seems like there's at least twice that number. Maybe they've just read a [i]lot[/i] more Tolkien lore than I have or they're just pulling shit out of their ass to try and keep the game going. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888179.page GMT GW has now given names to all 9, instead of just 2 of them. Also given them special rules etc. just added a bit more flavour to everything really.

11 days to go! lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888220.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888220.page GMT :

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BXwushJ_LuE/RwO6tjPjcEI/AAAAAAAAALY/zYXrlfg1Lcc/s400/PulpFictionCase.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888238.page GMT GW stores I'm starting to think there is no 'mystery box'. Can just see GW turning round on the day and saying 'We never said anything about a mystery box it was all on those rumour-mongering sites, stick with our official web-site and know the facts NOT rumours.' Or something along those lines...
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888292.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888295.page GMT
On a more serious note... I heard what I considered an unreliable rumor that sounds a bit like this. That GW was considereing bundling (in box) and selling as a pre-release a number of items set to come out in the month following the boxes sale. Making this a sem-regular occurance and a means to get some items early.

Wild sepculation... thunderhawk, because if we say we believe in a plastic thunderhawk it will come true.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888340.page GMT
They absolutely would not limit themselves in selling that thing, as the cost to get it up and running would be rather high.

Which, in turn, is why I think well see a plastic Warhound before we see a plastic Thunderhawk.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888383.page GMT
That would make sense. Jervis said it [i]wasn't[/i] Space Hulk so if everything we've been told is a lie, it actually [i]is[/i] Space Hulk!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888413.page GMT IMHO a plastic Thunderhawk is a pipe dream, just like plastic Cadians]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888443.page GMT
Although I do have a feeling one of the big reasons FW started selling weapons separately is so that they can be ordered for the plastic one some day]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888453.page GMT [/quote]

Is that the 18th of August??? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888491.page GMT
The mystery box just strikes me as something not all that worthwhile.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888523.page GMT
What's the reason behind this?
[/quote]Saul Zaentz bought most of the rights to The Hobbit/LotR in 1976, before Christopher started adding/adding to the other works. If I remember correctly, Chris did not like what happened with the Bakshi film and so would not sell rights to the new stuff.

The appendices were lost because of some goof up with rights before Tolkien died (if I remember correctly) and was part of why the copies of the LotR in the 70s have notices about buying official copies or similar (at work, so I can't get the actual text).

Some of the I.C.E. materials were "added" when Saul's group basically caused the old I.C.E. to go bankrupt to get back certain rights I.C.E. took over so the movies could be made.

Maverick, I thought GDG was on the 16th.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888528.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888528.page GMT lol . . . but yeah a plastic one would rule, but won't be in the mystery box.

My money is on Space Hulk, or some new awesome boardgame . . . but I can see a boardgame being the way to go with it. Especially at £50 . . . the same as a starter box.

EDIT: Saying that, just as i clicked post a thought struck me . . . WOTR starter box anyone? They wouldn't sell very many though lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888829.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888829.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/888949.page GMT GW. ---Oopa-loompa's dance in the background.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889075.page GMT
They absolutely would not limit themselves in selling that thing, as the cost to get it up and running would be rather high.

Which, in turn, is why I think well see a plastic Warhound before we see a plastic Thunderhawk.[/quote]

[quote=Necros]what makes a plastic warhound so much easier to do than a plastic thunderhawk? I think they'd equally be a tough kit to make, especially because they might want to make a warhound a bit posable and that will require more pieces for joints, etc.

Although I do have a feeling one of the big reasons FW started selling weapons separately is so that they can be ordered for the plastic one some day[/quote]

I don't recall saying it would be harder to make a Thunderhawk, what I was saying is that, with all the time and investment that goes into developing it and the molds, I think they'd sell a hell of a lot more plastic Titans than Marine Super Heavy Flyers.

Not to mention, on top of that, this thing is supposed to be a 'limited edition' 'when it is gone it is gone' thing.

Does that really sound like "Plastic Thunderhawk" to you?

Now me?

I love them Space Marines.

But I wouldn't be buying a plastic Thunderhawk.

A Plastic Warhound?

I'd buy at least two of them...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889077.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889083.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889086.page GMT gw hq, and will have a little note with it about how its infused with the gw mojo and merely rubbing a big on you will infuse you with their power.........

yea, i'm running on ideas of what it could be.......i know, a box of English air]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889104.page GMT
Same, but only because Warhounds only properly work in pairs.

And I'd rather carry my DA 4th Company in T-Hawks than Pods.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889106.page GMT GW could really make components if they really wanted to. If nothing else proves the capability that does. Thunderhawk or Warhound, it'd likely be more $ than the Stompa.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889136.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/889136.page GMT GW have done as limited edition. After the initial run you will still be able to get Space Hulk but without the metal figures...
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890123.page GMT GW is not going to make metal figures anymore , so maybe this is there chance to unload them ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890164.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890164.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890196.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890196.page GMT GW have done as limited edition. After the initial run you will still be able to get Space Hulk but without the metal figures...
Mick[/quote]

I think you're probably right and this is what the "Mystery Box" will end up being...

Kinda of lame, but still, an 'official' unveiling of Space Hulk will still be cool enough.

Barely...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890260.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890260.page GMT GW could come up with things that are soooooo much lamer. Let just be happy for once, if thats what it is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890449.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890452.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890452.page GMT
I thought YOU were going!

Actually, doesn't 1hadhq live 'close'?

Can't we make him go?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890588.page GMT Actually, doesn't 1hadhq live 'close'?

Can't we make him go?[/quote]

Try it..

Surely the netherlands isnt far from cologne ( Köln ) as is france.
Seen dutch and french before on such GD....

If BrookM goes, could we get informed when? ( late , early, whole day...)

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I'm sure the news will hit the 'Net relatively quickly.

And then be posted on BoLS...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890849.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890849.page GMT
I'm sure the news will hit the 'Net relatively quickly.

And then be posted on BoLS...[/quote]

So why not have them posted here directly on sunday instead of linking to Bols at monday?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890866.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890866.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890916.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890918.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890918.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890936.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890946.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890946.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/890982.page GMT
Whatever it is, I expect at least something special to be inside (aka exclusive miniatures, and not Terminators/Genestealers)).

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On one hand - OMG! Space Hulk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ZOMG!!!!!!!2

On the other hand - It probably won't be compatable with the previous two editions (ie. the tiles won't fit), meaning it won't work with what I want the game for.

On the other other hand - It'd be written by the current GW Dev team... and that just fills me with dread.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/891232.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/891232.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/891507.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/891507.page GMT
[quote=El Taco Bell]Folks in the Lounge are seeing movement regarding the Mystery Box.

Latest talk says:

"GW already offering preorder to the retail shops at at approx 50 GBP - It's Space Hulk with terrain , Terminators Genestealers and 2 metal miniatures. For now there are no plans to sell space hulk in more than 1 print - this is limited edition"

~It may only be available at Brick and Mortar stores and the GW Web Store, and supplies may be very limited. I don't know about you but this may be the "Tickle-me-ELMO" moment for Games workshop with hordes of old-timers pulling out the stops to lay their hands on the limited copies of this. I'm already working on my nefarious plans to secure one....How about you?[/quote]

Should I post this as a new thread? That way Taco Bell can copypasta [i]me[/i] in a week's time and post it as news?

I really hope that they've made enough for the demand if this is real.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/891756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/891756.page GMT Limited run GW terrain eh? I think there will be enough for demand.

Damn and blast(scape)! There's no way I'm gonna pre-order this. Which means if it is good I'll probably miss it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892163.page GMT
So...I'm still failing to comprehend the whole t-shirt thing. Do they seriously think they're all that clever or what?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892179.page GMT
Huh?

Though the "For now there are no plans to sell space hulk in more than 1 print - this is limited edition" thing is a bit of an 'out clause'...

Still, huh?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892185.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892194.page GMT
[/quote]

That's what I've been led to believe and say for a while now.

I hope I'm wrong but .. sadly, I don't think I am.

Love to be though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892205.page GMT
One to play with, one to keep for later, and one to sell on eBay for $120 USD.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892252.page GMT Just one to play with for me, I think!

Now can I be bothered to sell off my second edition now?
or just keep it for the extra 'nids...

Panic...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892317.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892317.page GMT GW stores??]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892326.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892359.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892359.page GMT GW's web store too...

Otherwise, this will get real ugly, real quick.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892376.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892376.page GMT
Way too go GW

And for that price, will we get Black Reach quality Terminators? Otherwise the 2x Terminators + Genestealers box leaves little value left for the terrain. Or will it truly be a bargain and will it be the normal miniatures + 2 metal figures and quality terrain for the 90 euro/50 pounds?

Idk, unless the terrain is really really good it looks like this will save me some money. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892386.page GMT One to play with, one to keep for later, and one to sell on eBay for $120 USD.[/quote]
Except that when eBay gets glutted with a bunch of these all at once a lot of people selling them are going to be disappointed in the considerably lower amounts of money they are making than what they had hoped.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892391.page GMT
Which might mean the other one is a Terminator Librarian?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892403.page GMT
Not good.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892427.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892442.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892442.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892446.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892446.page GMT GW store today and the sales guy told me that GW was releasing "a new game" at the end of September. blah blah blah]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892465.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892509.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892509.page GMT
One to play with, one to keep for later, and one to sell on eBay for $120 USD.[/quote]

Yup! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892551.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892551.page GMT
Not good.[/quote]

Why is it that every time I've said that they're considering this for Space Hulk since [i]January[/i], everyone jumps down my throat and says that it will never happen, but once it comes from Taco BoLS, it's suddenly news?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892712.page GMT
Not good.[/quote]

Why is it that every time I've said that they're considering this for Space Hulk since [i]January[/i], everyone jumps down my throat and says that it will never happen, but once it comes from Taco BoLS, it's suddenly news?[/quote]Sheeple are easily led by the big names. In their eyes "small fry" don't count, welcome to the club.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892772.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892921.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892921.page GMT
So...I'm still failing to comprehend the whole t-shirt thing. Do they seriously think they're all that clever or what?[/quote]

Seriously...I have the same thought. Why the T-shirts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892932.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892932.page GMT GW website and have nothing directly to do with the "Mystery Box" any more or less than any other GW product.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/892949.page GMT
Lets move away from the T-shirts!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893052.page GMT GW website and have nothing directly to do with the "Mystery Box" any more or less than any other GW product.[/quote]

Or is it just more misdirection? OOoo... The plot thickens. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893064.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893064.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893112.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893112.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893154.page GMT
duuuuuuuuude

...... that is just not right.






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Anyway ... everything you have been told is a lie. Dark Angels worship the chaos gods.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893176.page GMT
It's an empty cardboard box with brown wrapping over it and a felt tip question mark drawn on it.





But really, he did say a couple of things.

He was saying it's not space hulk or the thunderhawk.

Believe that what you will. He did however repeat the 'its a brand new game' line but the actual possible 'new' information is.

They will have a couple of copies of the game in the store on August 17th and people will be able to play it. He also added, he was only told that on the phone on Tuesday

So that really does suggest to me at least, that it is a game, so at the very least HQ are phoning around to say, "hey, leave your calendar open for games that day."

My own theorizing says, it's probably "The Space Crusades of the Necromundian Inquisitor Kill Teams attacking Tyranids on Gorkamorkan hulks."

In other words, probably a kind of LOTR SBG style 40k]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893461.page GMT
Like the Collectors 40k rulesets.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893469.page GMT GW website and have nothing directly to do with the "Mystery Box" any more or less than any other GW product.[/quote]

Yes, but I think you are missing the point.

They have those Tshirts to promote their website, including their supposedly new(?) news and rumors section, and they are using the slogans "Everything you've been told is a lie" and "The emperor (aka their website in this case) is the only truth" in an attempt to lure people from sites like this one to theirs because according to them the only truth can be found at their website.

In other words: everything we've been told (on sites like this one) is a lie and they are the only credible source.

But [i]IF[/i] the mystery box really is Space Hulk then they have been the ones lying, and the rumor sites have been right all along, which would obviously make the whole idea behind the Tshirts quite a mockery. Thát is why the mystery box is being linked to the Tshirts.




]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893529.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893529.page GMT 40k advanced' ruleset that was whispered about aeons ago. Y haven't heard anyone mention that idea, and it would (in a way) fit the "everything is a lie" concept if it's essentially new rules for the existing setting. It is also a 'new game' in a way, and I don't think they've really done that before (New rules for existing models) unless you're counting the WHFB Skirmish push.

I'm doubtful of GW's ability to develop a full rule set that is flexible enough to fill this role in complete silence, however.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/893601.page GMT
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc[/youtube]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894271.page GMT
about time GW caught up with the best new addition to the universe in years ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894320.page GMT
And not to far from the "Advanced 40K Ruleset" mentioned above and rumored long, long ago.

Imagine if you could actually THROW a grenade!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894322.page GMT
Imagine if fragmentation grenades were actually LETHAL.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894451.page GMT
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc[/youtube][/quote]

I fucking lol'd dude, that was hilarious.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894496.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894496.page GMT
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc[/youtube][/quote]

I fucking lol'd dude, that was hilarious.[/quote]STUPID!!! You're so stupid!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894615.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894666.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894770.page GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shbgRyColvE]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/894896.page GMT http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/chaos_in_the_old_world/media/chaos-in-the-old-world.mov]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895167.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895167.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895178.page GMT
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc[/youtube][/quote]

Thanks BrookM, that was very fitting.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895216.page GMT I know you can do an approximation of the Indomitable Fortress using standard PS stuff, but I'm talking about the actual kit they showed in the PS book.

And yes, the compatabilty with current turrets is beyond awesome. You can take one of the ground-based Lascannons or Quad-Cannons and swap them with any Razorback TL-Las, HB or Assault Cannon. Instant Tarantulas!!! [/quote]

Sorry to bug you about it..I read that the Dark Angels one in the book was scratchbuilt. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895226.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895232.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895232.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895365.page GMT
I suspect it might be a totally new race for one of the games.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895386.page GMT GW have said that it has been done before, just not this good, which is why I'm thinking Space Hulk with scenery]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895399.page GMT GW redone the old Mega Paint Set with the new paints? That would actually make for a nice holiday gift item, and would make sense as a one-off product. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895519.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895519.page GMT
Imagine if fragmentation grenades were actually LETHAL.[/quote]

You mean like 2nd edition 40K? If they're going to do an 'advanced' version, my guess is a repackaged 2nd edition rulebook/Necromunda rules. If that's the case, then it's not the mystery box, as that's been done before.

Btw, before you get all giddy about something like that, that system doesn't work too well with more than a dozen or so models per side, especially if they implement things like smoke, plasma, and blind grenades again.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895741.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895741.page GMT GW have said that it has been done before, just not this good, ............[/quote]

I am thinking chaos codex that is totally balanced, has daemons & all legion options with rules that add flavor whilst being balanced. Even options for lost and the damned.

Maybe I am dreaming to much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895744.page GMT
A letter was sent around that said to leave time to paint models, and prepare yourselves to show off demo games =D]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895848.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895848.page GMT
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895855.page GMT IIRC then from the 17th onwards . . . so yeah, not going to let it out before it gets out lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895857.page GMT IIRC then from the 17th onwards . . . so yeah, not going to let it out before it gets out lol[/quote]

Good save.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895892.page GMT
But yeah, definitely go into your closest GW and see what it's like for yourselves. I'm going in on the 17th, and I'm not even working :p

I've turned back into a little kid :p ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895901.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895901.page GMT 40k related you can bet your last dollar thats its going to be related to space marines in some way shape or form.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895916.page GMT GW sales rep-

Indy retailer: So is it true your releasing Space Hulk again?

GW rep: I cannot confirm or deny that.

Indy retailer: So will I be able to order it?

GW rep: Of course you will (pause) s@%%!

Possibly case closed?
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895928.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895928.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/895950.page GMT

I can just see the meeting now:

[b]GW Sales Manager:[/b] The first rule of the mystery box is you do not talk about the mystery box! The second rule of the mystery box is that [i]you do not talk about the mystery box[/i].]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896180.page GMT GW ? ill be there when it opens at 12.00 p.m.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896320.page GMT GW ? ill be there when it opens at 12.00 p.m.[/quote]

Why? What it is is going to be [i]announced[/i] Aug 17th, it's not released until September.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896335.page GMT GW has already promoted that unveiling. After that it will be all over the Internet.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896339.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/896339.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897110.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897110.page GMT
ofc it might not be space hulk but instead the trolls in the pantry game GW indorsed eons ago ^^]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897148.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897148.page GMT IIRC have nothing to do with Space Hulk that was the mystery box. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897297.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897316.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897316.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897341.page GMT GW,interested in the thing will not be able to get the space hulk.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897366.page GMT GW,interested in the thing will not be able to get the space hulk.[/quote]

Not quite sure how they are doing it yet. I've heard at times that you can pre-order off their website. Other rumors have been only actual GW stores. I was told that I would be able to get them for my independent game stores. (And no hints were given about what it is, just that I'll be able to get the 'mystery box'. Guess we'll know in a week. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897387.page GMT
Neckbeards. lawlz.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897421.page GMT 40K in 1993). Five to seven years later boxed game prices had crept up to $75 and then $85. The 3rd Edition 40K boxed set cost $85 when it was replaced by the Battle For Macragge starter set that initially cost $45 US.

If this Mystery Box is a boxed game, Space Hulk (or not), one can expect that it will cost at least as much as it would have ten years ago and perhaps more. In other words, don't be surprised if it costs at least $75 to $85 US or even more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897527.page GMT GW store that it would cost approximately 90 Euros.

(still doesn't have to be true obviously) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897573.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897573.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897589.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897589.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897838.page GMT
What is this bols you are talking about?

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897892.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897905.page GMT GW?



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897945.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/897982.page GMT
Yay! the black box of devouring! You put your models inside, it devours them, then you have to buy more models!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898000.page GMT
The GW employee who claimed to have actually seen the product in China said it isn't Space Hulk as well.

If it does turn out to be Space Hulk I will rub their lying in their faces though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898030.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898030.page GMT
The GW employee who claimed to have actually seen the product in China said it isn't Space Hulk as well.

If it does turn out to be Space Hulk I will rub their lying in their faces though.[/quote]

It's not Space Hulk.

It's a game called Hulks in Space. It comes with 10 Space Infantry and 20 Chromosome Thieves, as well as a full set of Space Corridors and Industrial Towers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898041.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898054.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898054.page GMT GW have said is that there is a release on the 16th, and thats it.

The rest as far as I can make it purely Interweb Speculation. As I said earlier, the BolS report is more a rumour consolidation than a single, cohesive rumour. All those things could have been mentioned individually...[/quote]

Um, it wasn't quite as simple as that.

GW HAS hyped this a bit more than that, what with the "never been done before", "limted quantities, when they're gone they're gone!" and some strange "We're droppin' the bomb on the 16th" talk...

That's a tad more than "Stay tuned for...{yawn]...some odd release at GD Germany."[/quote]

Dropping the bomb thing...

Possibly a limited edition Deathstrike model?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898079.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898079.page GMT 90 euros is more like 130 USD :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898236.page GMT
Lets get "The Mystery Box is a Lie" t-shirts and go on strike in front of every GW store.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898254.page GMT It's not Space Hulk.

It's a game called Hulks in Space. It comes with 10 Space Infantry and 20 Chromosome Thieves, as well as a full set of Space Corridors and Industrial Towers.[/quote]

Truly, completely different, never-done-before-thingy!!! I'm hoping you ARE right, Platuan!!!!

[quote=Disjointed Entity][quote=Alpharius]some strange "We're droppin' the bomb on the 16th" talk...[/quote]

Dropping the bomb thing...

Possibly a limited edition Deathstrike model?[/quote]

Now [b]THAT[/b] is an interesting theory..... Can I change my vote and choose "a Deathstrike model" from the poll?!?

[b]+1 for Disjointed Entity![/b]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898312.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898333.page GMT
Gorkamorka.

Enjoy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898348.page GMT
Why would GW re-release a game that wasn't successful in the first place? Gluttons for punishment?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898362.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898362.page GMT GW do alot of things that it does.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898377.page GMT
At that rate, why not ask for a re-release of Bommas Over Da Sulfa Riva?

Or Dark Future?

Or Dracula?

Or Dark Eldar?

...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898378.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898378.page GMT
At that rate, why not ask for a re-release of Bommas Over Da Sulfa Riva?

Or Dark Future?

Or Dracula?

Or Dark Eldar?

...[/quote]

Or Inquisitor?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898380.page GMT
Gorkamorka.

Enjoy.[/quote]

That one has been thrown out there already a few weeks ago in the other thread

Whatever it is, it will be an actual game. That part has pretty much been confirmed by the letter GW sent out to employees, telling them to prepare for demo games, as has been posted earlier in this thread. So everyone who still thinks it will be one model like a Deathstrike... that is not going to be it.

I'm not familiar with all the old games they had:

- Space Hulk
- Gorkamorka
- Warhammer Quest
- Trolls in the pantry

... ?

I'm also still trying to figure out how they could fit the old Space Hulk content + enough (plastic) terrain into a 90,- Euro box and have it all be good quality. Normally those Terminators & Genestealers alone would be 90,-, and I refuse to believe GW will give us an actual bargain like that until I see it in from of me. This is probably the reason I'm still a bit sceptical about it being Space Hulk.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898391.page GMT GW will give us an actual bargain like that until I see it in from of me. [/quote]

Granted:

[img]http://www.guysthatgame.co.uk/gtgshop/product_images/c/assault_on_black_reach_b__19172.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.gamesworkshop.nl/catalog/plaatjes/starter_sets/skullpass.gif[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898398.page GMT
: Its a stand alone game that most likely will be compatable with current miniature range.
: Its been said several times that it isnt space hulk
: Its set in the 40k verse.
: Its something they have already done in the past.

............
Make sense to me as being a logical canadate.
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Why would they do us a favor by temporarily giving us a great deal when they have nothing to gain by it in the future?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898414.page GMT
It's been said several times that it [i]is[/i] Space Hulk.

How do we reconcile this? We can't, that's what. So we just wait and see until someone manages to leak it before GW reveals it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898416.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898420.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898420.page GMT
What do you mean? Space Hulk was plenty of people's first intro into 40K the first two times, why would this time be necessarily any different?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898421.page GMT 40k verse.[/quote]

I'm not sure a GW source has actually ever said it's 40K related.

(but sure, that does make the most sense)

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898429.page GMT GW not supporting for more than a year?

If the models aren't compatible with any other systems, GW will axe it in a year because of it. Relegating it to the defunct Specialist Games... (or as we call it, where the fun goes to die). If the models are compatible with one of the primary game systems, GW will axe it because it will either: A) be a cheaper and better source of miniatures which they will decide to fold into the core systems with recut and significantly marked up sprues; B) the models are redundant to models GW can get a better markup on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898430.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898430.page GMT GW,interested in the thing will not be able to get the space hulk.[/quote]

Not quite sure how they are doing it yet. I've heard at times that you can pre-order off their website. Other rumors have been only actual GW stores. I was told that I would be able to get them for my independent game stores. (And no hints were given about what it is, just that I'll be able to get the 'mystery box'. Guess we'll know in a week. [/quote]

Ussualy the independ store around here would be clueless about this, then customers like myself bug them to get the box... they spend a couple weeks digesting the thing... decide to call GW... tell us its ordered and should get at the store soon... one month later customers start to bug again about the box that doesnt arrive... they digest and a couple weeks later call GW... GW says they never aggreed to send the box in teh first place and its a online store thing exclusive ( besides at this time its already out of stock)... and finally store tells customers they cant get the box because GW doest sent them.

Sorry for rant but even if it seems a parody its in fact a major pain in the ass and has cost me deals like apoc armies etc in the past, so even if GW makes this available I doubt I will get it since the limited time deals means a big no no around here.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898437.page GMT
What do you mean? Space Hulk was plenty of people's first intro into 40K the first two times, why would this time be necessarily any different?[/quote]

Was it available for only a limited period back then? I don't even know which year Space Hulk was originally released and when they dropped it.

If it really is that limited this time around most of the boxes will probably be bought by current players, so I don't know about it being useful as an intro for new players. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898438.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898438.page GMT def being released!
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898533.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898533.page GMT GW HQ, the marketing intern that came up with this whole mystery box idea is cackling to himself with maniacal glee.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898539.page GMT BAs vs. Genestealers on a space hulk, maybe it will be Tau vs. Tyranids onboard a hiveship, similar to Tyranid attack, or Dark Eldar raiding a Necron world engine for ancient technology.

Every once in a great while GW throws something at us that doesn't include SMs...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898574.page GMT Every once in a great while GW throws something at us that doesn't include SMs...[/quote]

That's true, but SMs is their bread-and-butter... if it's going to be Space Hulk, you've got to figure that Marines are going to be in there..]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898756.page GMT
The GW employee who claimed to have actually seen the product in China said it isn't Space Hulk as well.

If it does turn out to be Space Hulk I will rub their lying in their faces though.[/quote]

It's not Space Hulk.

It's a game called Hulks in Space. It comes with 10 Space Infantry and 20 Chromosome Thieves, as well as a full set of Space Corridors and Industrial Towers.[/quote]

Hm, do you know where I could [i]just[/i] get some Space Corridors and Industrial Towers? I don't really want Space Infantry or Chromosome Thieves.......]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898876.page GMT BAs vs. Genestealers on a space hulk, maybe it will be Tau vs. Tyranids onboard a hiveship, similar to Tyranid attack, or Dark Eldar raiding a Necron world engine for ancient technology. [/quote]

I like where this thread is going. Have you seen the new DE figures?
[IMG]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e144/lintballz/ac586b38a0903594d6e009a565aab24e_10.jpg[/IMG]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898920.page GMT GW may simply have decided that Terminators in the required quantity was too good of a deal. Giving us standard marines maybe their alternative.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898926.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898926.page GMT
Why would GW re-release a game that wasn't successful in the first place? Gluttons for punishment?[/quote]

You blaspheme sir! I loved Gorkamorka... Necron world, all ork on ork combat, humans dressing up as orks... What [i]didn't[/i] that game have going for it?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898928.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898928.page GMT Necron world, all ork on ork combat, humans dressing up as orks... What [i]didn't[/i] that game have going for it?[/quote]

It was the game that homogenised and bland-i-fied Orks. After Gorkamorka all Orks begame 'Generic Goffs'.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/898938.page GMT
Why would GW re-release a game that wasn't successful in the first place? Gluttons for punishment?[/quote]

You blaspheme sir! I loved Gorkamorka... Necron world, all ork on ork combat, humans dressing up as orks... What [i]didn't[/i] that game have going for it?[/quote]

Rules that differentiated the basic factions more. Vehicle Rules that made sense. A clear difference from the then fairly-well supported Necromunda game. The only thing GorkaMorka had going for it was the list of Glyphs and orky words at the end of "Da Uvver Book" Digganob might have improved it, I don't know. My group never bothered with it. But why did they make it Gorkas vs. Morkas when they already had fluff for the main Klans. Goffs vs. Blood Axes vs. Deathskulls vs. Snakebites vs. Evil Sunz vs. Bad Moons had so much more potential.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899003.page GMT
Why would GW re-release a game that wasn't successful in the first place? Gluttons for punishment?[/quote]

You blaspheme sir! I loved Gorkamorka... Necron world, all ork on ork combat, humans dressing up as orks... What [i]didn't[/i] that game have going for it?[/quote]

Rules that differentiated the basic factions more. Vehicle Rules that made sense. A clear difference from the then fairly-well supported Necromunda game. The only thing GorkaMorka had going for it was the list of Glyphs and orky words at the end of "Da Uvver Book" Digganob might have improved it, I don't know. My group never bothered with it. But why did they make it Gorkas vs. Morkas when they already had fluff for the main Klans. Goffs vs. Blood Axes vs. Deathskulls vs. Snakebites vs. Evil Sunz vs. Bad Moons had so much more potential.[/quote]

Thanks for that succinct recap of all that time ago. Are you one of the Stony Point Refugees, btw? Just curious if I should be looking for you on the other board, too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899063.page GMT But why did they make it Gorkas vs. Morkas when they already had fluff for the main Klans. Goffs vs. Blood Axes vs. Deathskulls vs. Snakebites vs. Evil Sunz vs. Bad Moons had so much more potential.[/quote]
Presumably, Klans would be the obvious add-on expansion if Gorkamorka didn't suck.
____

Potentially, GW printed the entire batch, and is only now releasing it...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899064.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899064.page GMT btw? Just curious if I should be looking for you on the other board, too.[/quote]

I've lurked a little on the Stony Point Refugees board, but not yet joined or attempted any gaming stuff through them (got personal, job & car issues to work out first.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899102.page GMT btw? Just curious if I should be looking for you on the other board, too.[/quote]

I've lurked a little on the Stony Point Refugees board, but not yet joined or attempted any gaming stuff through them (got personal, job & car issues to work out first.)[/quote]

Wicked. Not much of a gamer with them either, but they're a pretty big group. A buddy of mine and I both work at the Gamestop up on Broad next to Walmart and we both play down at Hobbytown now. We ran into them there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899107.page GMT
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_FoUcDSFxs[/youtube]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899147.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899147.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899201.page GMT
Apparently there are only 3 people at GW who know about it (as told to him by a GW worker). My mate was going to try a connetion, his mate's sister is Trish Morrison, but no go there.

We both were under the impression it was something that GW had done before, but this time it's going to be amazing.

GW staffer said it would be around £80

Our feeling is it's got to be Space Hulk. The reasoning behind this is:

Terminators are already out in a cheap form

Genestealers are in plastic as well

Only need a small size rulebook

If you can produce a 6 x 4 moulded board and sell it for £120, you can produce a plastic Space Hulk board that fits the £80 budget

All the above would make a £80 box set of Space Hulk with plastic scenery more than possible, plus Space Hulk would fly out of the door. This means even if sales dry up, they would of made a mint out of the original sales.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899217.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899217.page GMT GW had relocated to South-East Asia lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899271.page GMT
1. Finance for the project.
2. Sculpting the miniatures.
3. Writing the rules.
4. Layout and presentation for the rules.
5. Graphics and diagram creation.
6. Inventory and dealing with overseas manufacturers.
7. Packaging layout and graphics.
8. Colour photography for both the box and the included documentation.
9. Painting the minatures.
10. Distribution and inventory via the website and via stores [i]worldwide[/i].

3 people?

Ok... sure... I believe that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899292.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899307.page GMT GW info? As you say, 3 people is hard to believe.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899312.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899363.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899363.page GMT
[quote=Disjointed Entity][quote=Alpharius]some strange "We're droppin' the bomb on the 16th" talk...[/quote]

Dropping the bomb thing...

Possibly a limited edition Deathstrike model?[/quote]

Now [b]THAT[/b] is an interesting theory..... Can I change my vote and choose "a Deathstrike model" from the poll?!?

[b]+1 for Disjointed Entity![/b][/quote]

Cheers!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899393.page GMT
I imagine that somewhere in the UK is some one looking at a piece of paper that says "Space" going "this could be anything." And someone in the US looking at "Hulk"... wondering if GW's made some deal to take the loveable comic book character and adapt him as an ork or something. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899455.page GMT BAs vs. Genestealers on a space hulk, maybe it will be Tau vs. Tyranids onboard a hiveship, similar to Tyranid attack, or Dark Eldar raiding a Necron world engine for ancient technology.
[/quote]

That's a theory I've had, although my guess is it would be IG vs. Nids as they generally want a human race to give people something to identify with and they can try to hitch a ride on the [i]Aliens[/i] star, albeit a bit late...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899469.page GMT
I imagine that somewhere in the UK is some one looking at a piece of paper that says "Space" going "this could be anything." And someone in the US looking at "Hulk"... wondering if GW's made some deal to take the loveable comic book character and adapt him as an ork or something. [/quote]

CONVERSION IDEAS]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899472.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899472.page GMT BFG since there were rumors about its rerelease, thus making it 40k related in some sence.

And my biggest hopes would be plastic DKOK ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899572.page GMT
Still not calling it though. Still waiting. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899635.page GMT Still not calling it though. [/quote]

Good shout.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899731.page GMT
http://rs422cg.rapidshare.com/files/266242806/6522903/dark_herey_miniature_board_game_warhammer_40k.JPG]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899967.page GMT Every once in a great while GW throws something at us that doesn't include SMs...[/quote]

That's true, but SMs is their bread-and-butter... if it's going to be Space Hulk, you've got to figure that Marines are going to be in there..[/quote]
Absolutely. But some of us are clinging to the fine hope that it's got nothing to do with SMs. We cling to clues such as "never been done before" and "boardgame", hoping that SMs are left behind this time. My favorite is the dubious "it's not space hulk" clue...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899999.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/899999.page GMT
http://rs422cg.rapidshare.com/files/266242806/6522903/dark_herey_miniature_board_game_warhammer_40k.JPG[/quote]WOAH.

WAIT.

WHAT.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900008.page GMT
At least that is my hope
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900017.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900017.page GMT flgs already preordered it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900018.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900020.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900020.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900027.page GMT
http://rs422cg.rapidshare.com/files/266242806/6522903/dark_herey_miniature_board_game_warhammer_40k.JPG[/quote]WOAH.

WAIT.

WHAT.

[/quote]

Yeah, what's that? I doubt it's box related being a FFG product no doubt, but yeah, sight unseen I want that. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900036.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900040.page GMT [img]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_hueeFnKmgMo/SoGoAKfFYdI/AAAAAAAAEGc/PgEcUIqTEpg/s800/f_0015ac.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900066.page GMT
<a href='http://img33.imageshack.us/i/savemyfuckingpicture.jpg/'><img src='http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1583/savemyfuckingpicture.jpg' /></a><br/>

Tada!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900069.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900069.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900073.page GMT
That just might be it!

Where did you find this???

If this is legitimate, you need to post it in its own thread, as many will not be looking here for anything new, 14 pages in!

Good find!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900080.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900080.page GMT RPG? I thought there already was a 40K RPG?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900084.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900084.page GMT
Take that all you space hulk believers!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900091.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900091.page GMT RPG? I thought there already was a 40K RPG?[/quote]

Yeah Dark Heresy, which are the books there,
but those models look mysteriously like

SQUATS!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900095.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900096.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900096.page GMT
[b]+1 for Disjointed Entity![/b][/quote]

Cheers![/quote]

Welcome mate....

[quote=paranoidandroid]
could this be related ?:

http://rs422cg.rapidshare.com/files/266242806/6522903/dark_herey_miniature_board_game_warhammer_40k.JPG
[/quote]

Same for me, the link doesn't work anymore (limited to 10 views or sthg).... Could you upload it here on dakka?
FFG is supposed to produce some 40k-related Boardgames by now (read August WD issue, news section), but they're not real "GW products"...


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900102.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900122.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900122.page GMT
What a load of junk.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900152.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900152.page GMT FFG product, and GW is not going to take that over. I think those are purely for some Dark Heresy related board game or miniature tie-in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900211.page GMT GW going to sell this thing for pre-order just as a "mystery box"? That would be f23@#^@ing hilarious.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900228.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900228.page GMT WIP's could be a FFG thing or a fan project. I'm leaning towards the latter, mainly because of the Dwarfish minis shown there.

Unless the Creatures Anathema has a Demiurg entry?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900233.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900239.page GMT GW would be nice IMO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900247.page GMT GW providing the models for the Dark Heresy game and that it's a separate thing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900264.page GMT GW providing the models for the Dark Heresy game and that it's a separate thing.[/quote]

Wash your mouth out with soap!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900402.page GMT gw?

an original idea?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900412.page GMT gw?

an original idea?[/quote]

Like Skaven? Or Squigs?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900434.page GMT
squigs seem original enough. they seem to be crosses with a heap of things.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900437.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900455.page GMT
but that just sounds like an assholish argument.

ill clarafy what i said, what i meant was they have never had a COMPLETELY original idea. (not retarded "completely" as in nids arent original cause aliens arent) but what i mean is everything they have takes heavy refrence from something established. for example nids were changed as soon as starcraft came out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900467.page GMT
[img]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_hueeFnKmgMo/SoGoAKfFYdI/AAAAAAAAEGc/PgEcUIqTEpg/s800/f_0015ac.jpg[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900577.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900577.page GMT DH pic is going to be the new DE greens of this place.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900578.page GMT WTF?

I know GenCon is only a few days away, but hopefully someone will ask them about this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900669.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900669.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900874.page GMT

I am waiting to cash in my $100 online gift voucher from Ard Boyz until this thing drops...whatever it may be.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900902.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900902.page GMT


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900928.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900928.page GMT FLGS got an email from their GW rep today telling them they'll be able to order the mystery box on the 17th. That makes me hopeful that it won't be an in-store only release.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/900963.page GMT uk]certain store[/url] will get them as well.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901018.page GMT uk]certain store[/url] will get them as well.

[/quote]

For once, I'm totally on board with your shameless advertising!

Because, well, I might just want one too.

Maybe?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901181.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901230.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901310.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901740.page GMT
Honestly, fuck the mystery box - this picture, and the Dark Heresy connections has me far more intrigued than anything I've seen recently.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901753.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901754.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901757.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901763.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901763.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901768.page GMT
I'm looking through CA at the moment oddly enough and no, there are no Demiurg in there, or anything else of that size/shape... but the right hand large creature looks suprisingly like the artwork for the Stenchbeast of Strank on page 66]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901769.page GMT
The stats are not DH related as far as I can tell, and reference cards for weapons would seem superfluous for that system as well.

Looks like over sized components for a new boardgame, probably by FFG since they have the rights to the DH line and I’m sure that GW producing their own DH boardgame would undermine that and not be permissible under any sensible licensing agreement.

I think the mystery box will be something else and am hoping that that this is a new product from FFG ala the Chaos in the Old World game. But I know no more than anyone else?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901776.page GMT
There's a Frankenstein Monster, things call Hullghasts (not Hellghasts), Plague Zombies, Robot-Frankenstein Monster, evil possessed Servitors (ie. Robo Zombies), False Men, Logi Daemonis... or something, Obliviates, which look like Robo-Robots with flesh, Techno-Cultists, Tech-Witches, Vore Weapons, Ripper Whip, Phyrr Cat, Osedex (Sandworm), Ambull (awesome!), Cruorian War Beast, Fenksworld Pit Thing, Gloomhaunt (Ripperjack), Maw-Flute, Boreworm, the Skin Taker, Stenchbeast, Verminspeaker, Blood Locust... holy shit... picture for that one's frightening, the Eldar, Enoulians, Enslavers, Genestealers, Lictors, Orks, Simulacra (shapeshifters), Assessor Cultists, Astral Spectres, The Burning One, Eye of the Abyss (very Lovecraftian), Flamers, Flesh Hounds, Juggers, Lady of the Void, Nurglings, Predators of the Starry Order, The Ruination of Imperfect Beauty.

Nope. No Dwarves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901779.page GMT
There are rumours of WFRP moving in a direction that uses cards and miniatures to speed up game play... maybe this is a test run to move DH in the same direction? This seems unlikely though, given that books are still being released and RT comes out very soon. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901782.page GMT
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901803.page GMT
Hmm.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901805.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901805.page GMT
No there's not.

meanwhile... the guardsman character sheet in that snap looks to me like the sort of thing that would be of use in a demo game at gen con type affair and the closest big troll like monster looks to me like the Fenksworld pitbeast.



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901806.page GMT DH. I would say that regardless of what the box is or will be the figures in the above picture, are squats. They just fit the profile TOO well to be anything but IMHO. If not they want to bring some of their favorite imagery about them back in another form. Just my 2 cents....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901827.page GMT
Makes me think it's a fan project to make mini's for the game too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901886.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901886.page GMT
The single/two piece cast of the mini's shouts boardgame and the bulky (lumpiness?) of the boots/legs/torso particularly suggests it is one made by someone other than GW. Plus GW don't make 3ups (?) anymore do they?

Your reasoning on the reintroduction of a dead/discontinued race also fits well (what better villain than a race of squats out for revenge after the Imperium abandons them!). Further I don’t think that FFG could produce mini's of existing races/lines (under the terms of their licence, therefore squats and inquisitors (LHS of photo), plus others from the CA would be perfect for a FFG Boardgame.

Of course the downside of this epiphany is that FFG tend to promote their products, so a glimpse like this probably wouldn't be their style? Maybe this is part of a viral ad campaign? Very non GW either way?

Mystery box = Christmas Marine/Chainsaw wizard/Chaos Toilet collectors diorama!

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901887.page GMT GW store but would quite like some Squats and other beasties if that's what it turns out to be.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901946.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901946.page GMT

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Those dwarf models could be from a different sci-fi miniatures company.

And yes! The first big monster is indeed a Fenksworld pitbeast!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901951.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901951.page GMT
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/43111

It is going to be available in stores late august.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901982.page GMT
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/43111

It is going to be available in stores late august.[/quote]No, that's not the same thing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/901995.page GMT WTF Box, you can rest assured that when the Box is sold out you'll be able to stroll to your nearest GW shop and buy a box of crisp, freshly baked Demiurg there.

No plastic model will ever be a limited release.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902002.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902002.page GMT WTF Box, you can rest assured that when the Box is sold out you'll be able to stroll to your nearest GW shop and buy a box of crisp, freshly baked Demiurg there.

No plastic model will ever be a limited release.[/quote]

While I would have to tend to agree with you, GW's willingness to go to China to get "things done" leaves this open to a little bit of wiggle room.

Maybe.
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yeah,
AutoPistol range 0 - 3 ?
Feet- Meters - Spaces?

Are the bases in thepicture 25mm...

WAnt..

PAnic...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902361.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902420.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902420.page GMT GW refuses to acknowledge they ever existed, saying that its something they've never done before isn't exactly a lie to them, but at the same time, the "everything you've been told is a lie" shirts make sense to US because obviously, GW is lying. Then again, it may just be the Inquisitor tagline, so whatever.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902582.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902618.page GMT That would make sense since I'd guess squats are probabily still fighting the hive that swallowed their home planet.

Panic...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902647.page GMT GW fact. Furthermore, Squats never existed anyway. They have said this, Demiurge are a completely different race of vertically challenged people.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902680.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902680.page GMT
Honestly, fuck the mystery box - this picture, and the Dark Heresy connections has me far more intrigued than anything I've seen recently.[/quote]

But look closely.. The grey(plastic?? mabye its resin, sortof looks like FW resin) of the mini.. is not the same color as the peice of sprue.. It looks to me like someone took a peice of sprue and just lay it around the mini...

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902696.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902733.page GMT
My guess is 4chan.

Everything wierd comes from there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902759.page GMT
Hilarious!!!! Can I sig this?!? That's too damn good!!!!

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My guess is 4chan.

Everything wierd comes from there.[/quote]If that's the source then I am leaning towards fan project, they can be quite industrious over there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902794.page GMT
My guess is 4chan.

Everything wierd comes from there.[/quote]If that's the source then I am hinting towards fan project, they can be quite industrious over there.[/quote]

In more ways than one ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902799.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/902799.page GMT Squat Hearth Guard re imagined.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903060.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903117.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903119.page GMT
Why on earth would anyone do that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903179.page GMT GW was supposedly developing, I think more on the fantasy side, sort of as a gladatorial game. I think I remember something about in a WD and remember it was hex based movement. Just a thought.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903232.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903232.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903238.page GMT Just out of curiosity, could a totally new Marine chapter be counted as nothing to do with any current armies...? That way if it is Space Hulk it would confirm the no conection to current armies (ie Dark Angels, Ultra Smurfs etc)
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903240.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903304.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903304.page GMT
Again.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903383.page GMT
Again.[/quote]

aka: Lucky Charms Syndrome (LCS)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903409.page GMT DH as one is no longer surprising: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=729]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903426.page GMT GW refuses to acknowledge they ever existed,[/quote]

GW have never really refused to acknowledge that squats ever existed.

The Ian Watson Inquisition War trilogy was published with Squat character intact. The blurb at the front explains why they're currently not present in the game. They've had no problem with Squat armies at GTs.

Squats were dropped from the game because the studio couldn't figure out what to do with their fluff to make them a worthwhile part of the background that was distinct from other, better selling, armies. Aside from occasionally getting exasperated at the same tired old questions at Games Days, GW have never, at least so far as I've heard, had a problem acknowledging them as a part of the game's history.

And for what it's worth, Demiurg aren't Squats reimagined. They're an alien race. The two are completely unrelated, aside from both being short.
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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903447.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903531.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903543.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903545.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903553.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903559.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903559.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903571.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903571.page GMT Perhaps a turtle pie for Dakka?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903598.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903632.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903709.page GMT
I'm still on 'Wait and see' mode.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903816.page GMT
Otherwise I want space hulk. That would be nice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903853.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903878.page GMT
I'm thinking the only problem might be if they're Inquisitorial scale, which would be just about useless in my 40K universe... :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903889.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903897.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903897.page GMT i thought the standard saying was that if bols says it, they heard us talking about it.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903904.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903956.page GMT Das Reich! Oh wait, wrong group of sheeple. But yeah, if he posts it like that then it has to be!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903989.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/903989.page GMT GW are giving up doing gaming stuff? It would link 'dropping a bomb', 'never been done before', 'not linked to any army', 'limited print run' and they def would not want the staff to know before the announcement! On the other hand they could be releasing something at a price that relates to how much it really costs to produce rather than at a hyper inflated price, again covers all the above...
Mick ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904072.page GMT
Guys what came out last year at this time? It was 5th ed 40k

GW will have to match those numbers with a great release, a possible one-shot release...
So you have to ask yourself, Are they redoing "Fantasy" or "LoTR/WoTR"? The answer is no. So what can compete against those numbers of dollars made and units sold? It has to be big and encourage the masses to drop money to match if not exceed the last years release...

PS Remember that the last 3 years have seen new starters released in August/September...

Cheers
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904094.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904094.page GMT 40k last year and Apocalypse the year before so they are trying a new marketing idea hoping it will generate interest and help shift something of a lesser game/supplement...
Another thought occurs to me as well, if its a board game and going to be 'limited edition' could that mean after the intial run it will be handed over to FFG as Dark Heresy was? So you will still be able to get it but with FFG stamped on it rather than GW. This could also link it to the Dark Heresy photo...
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904107.page GMT GW didn't think an RPG's development made a big enough return. The books cost $50+ but for it to have been viable GW needed to make $80+. So they sold the licensing rights to FFG. The idea of GW handing anything over to FFG is unlikely. The only way FFG will take another GW proprty is if A) they are sharing the development costs for the new game, B) FFG is paying GW to develop a new game, C) GW develops the new game and determines it to be not viable, but offers a license to FFG and FFG buys it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904139.page GMT FFG are releasing the Rogue Trader RPG at Gen Con, so would they also do another major release at the same time?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904154.page GMT FFG are the games developers under licence from GW? This could explain the 'only three people in GW know what it is' rumour and to stop FFG l[color=darkred] [/color]etting the cat out of the bag they are told they will have the licence pulled if they reveal it. This way GW gets all this hype and interest, they release what ever it is as a 'limited edition/run', which it is for them, then let FFG release their edition of it after. Its a win, win situation for both companies...
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904155.page GMT , buw here it comes.

There has been word about these new Geedubya T-shirts, with "everything you have been told is a lie" on them, Now I was looking through the specialist games today, and was looking through the rule book for Inquisitor, and on one of the first few pages the exact same quote is there.

Now my guess would be these t-shirts may be pointing towards Inquistor, or something related to the Inquisition ? It's a possibility.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904215.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904235.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904235.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904241.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904241.page GMT , buw here it comes.

There has been word about these new Geedubya T-shirts, with "everything you have been told is a lie" on them, Now I was looking through the specialist games today, and was looking through the rule book for Inquisitor, and on one of the first few pages the exact same quote is there.

Now my guess would be these t-shirts may be pointing towards Inquistor, or something related to the Inquisition ? It's a possibility.[/quote]

You're actually about the 10,000th person to spot and point this out.

No.

The T shirts are purely to get people onto and registering on the GW site... just like the swanky competition which involves... being registered on the website.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904249.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904249.page GMT LOTR I am flying to the UK to kick [i]someone[/i] in the balls!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904279.page GMT LotR.
Random thought: Not that anyone would want it, but I wonder if GW has considered releasing a miniature line for some other movie franchise (possibly scifi) to mirror what they've done with LotR...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904312.page GMT

And If you want someone kicking in the balls over in the UK just give me a call I'll video the whole event for you too ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904330.page GMT GW has considered releasing a miniature line for some other movie franchise (possibly scifi) to mirror what they've done with LotR...[/quote]
Like, say, Starship Troopers? That should be a dirt cheap license to acquire.

Although Aliens vs Predator would be OK.

Star Wars would probably bankrupt the company.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904353.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904353.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904368.page GMT 40k, in Pogs!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904386.page GMT that any GW fan will want to buy it up. If it turns out
to be something lack luster it will leave a sour taste
in the consumer base that's for sure. This "keep it a
secret" stand GW is taking can backfire-bad.

I sure do hope it's something I'm interested in and if so
something I can get my hands on.

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Blue Harvest was the fake working title for Return of the Jedi.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904398.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904405.page GMT
"Damn it! We have already used up all the post-it notes from accounting! Quick - someone go and see if any of the bathrooms still have toilet paper left... and someone start chopping up the tables from marketing into pieces small enough to fit in some more of these damn boxes!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904441.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904441.page GMT 40k, in Pogs![/quote]

How would you rep the Chaos Dread's frenzy rule in pogs?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904455.page GMT 40k, in Pogs![/quote]

How would you rep the Chaos Dread's frenzy rule in pogs?[/quote]

I don't know, but I'm sure GW's designers are smart enough to figure out a rule for that, and then follow it up with a faq for each pog.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904484.page GMT
You cut yourself on the edge of your razor sharp Chaos Dread pog and bleed all over your pogs?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904485.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904527.page GMT LOTR I am flying to the UK to kick [i]someone[/i] in the balls![/quote]

Thats BoLS, not balls. Youd be kicking empty air otherwise....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904548.page GMT 40k, in Pogs![/quote]

How would you rep the Chaos Dread's frenzy rule in pogs?[/quote]
Not the 40k chess set...? Everything I know is a lie...
Chaos Dread, frenzy, take pogs and throw them straight up into the air, anything it lands on dies? or maybe just laughs at you....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904565.page GMT Star Wars would probably bankrupt the company.[/quote]

WotC has the star wars license pretty much locked up, I think...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904585.page GMT
And, the 16th isn't so far away now...

I'm leaning more towards the FFG/GW Dark Heresy Board Game thing now.

Either that, or Space Hulk with limited edition models and/or terrain. Which won't be in the box later, thereby "justifying" the limited edition label...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904606.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904606.page GMT
Why on earth would anyone do that?[/quote]


Well first thing to spring to mind is.. "HAHAHA Look at the photoshop job I did and it got EVERYONE! into a uproar.. hahah what a bunch of Mooks!"

or just to mabye hint that they will be in production at somepoint later.
also if you look closely at the upper right of the sprue, it looks like something has already been cut off of it.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904731.page GMT Star Wars would probably bankrupt the company.[/quote]

WotC has the star wars license pretty much locked up, I think...[/quote]

Indeed, this Star Wars licence is owned by Wizards of the Coast, who in turn are owned by Hasbro, who also have the licence to do most Star Wars toys, and finally George Lucas owns a number of shares in Hasbro, 10% or so I believe. This is why I believe that the rights to produce the card game were taken away from Decipher and awarded to Wizards of the Coast but would rather indicate that GW will *not* be getting a Star Wars licence.

[spoiler]Unless they are also taken over by Hasbro...[/spoiler]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/904743.page GMT
Are you trolling me?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905052.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905351.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905351.page GMT
40k action men....

would you stoop as low in warhammer obsession to buy em?

i for one wouldnt XD

heres me making up random crap to throw u off the scent]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905408.page GMT TO BE SPACE HULK, SURELY BoLS IS RIGHT ON THIS. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905411.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905417.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905417.page GMT
Used to be.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905464.page GMT
He posted on another thread I commented on with a similarly snide remark.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905502.page GMT GW could do a licensed game called "Time Lord".

Then they could rehash the old Dalek mini from ages ago!
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Don't fret. He does it to everyone.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905512.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905512.page GMT GW Triumverate.

GW has done board games before - but doesnt do much to support its specialist games (not allowing them in stores that are not 'battle bunkers').

FFG on the other hand likes to put out supplements/expansions to its boardgames. Look at Descent. Two expansions when I last checked with a large assortment of 'hero cards' (like character sheets) and correlating mini.

A game board that can be modified with stairwell tiles and terrain tiles etc...

Tie this in with their existing DH line and put it out in all those mall based non-wargaming game stores at the mall... it's the new GW gateway drug - if it works.

As for me, I have some of the DH books, but havnt invested much time in reading them. I also have the Descent game, and I enjoy that.
If this mystery box is this FFG game, I'll be happy. If its not, I won't be mad.
And no, I don't believe this will be a resurrection of Squats/Demiurg/Space Dwarves whatever... I think too many here are reading too much into someone elses speculative reasoning or hopeful delusion.

And seriously, I doubt it's Space Hulk... Even though that was my gateway drug into 40k, as I'm sure it was for many.

Could anyone check for info on FFG site? I unfortunately can't see their page as I'm on a gov network... and they think I should think about work and not gaming. (I have no clue how they havn't blocked this).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905525.page GMT
Are printing costs in the US cheaper than the UK? I ask because GW has had a problem for many years when it comes to doing card-stock and things like that (it's the reason things like the Necromunda and Mordheim games went away, and all the various cards in the core games as well).

If FFG is in the US and the US doesn't have the same problems, then we could be seeing a lot of card-based games from them using the GW lisence simply because GW couldn't afford to produce them themselves.


Personally though I now want it to be some sort of "Dark Heresy - Skirmish" style game, a bit I-Munda-ish its construction, with ways of tying it into Dark Heresy proper (and not a replacement).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905536.page GMT
As for printing. I wonder why GW does not have it done in the states - they make some of their miniatures here. IIRC they have a factory in TN. Not something I've seen them advertise, but they mentioned it at an assessment function I once attended.
But thinking further on that; printing in the states might take them outside their 'laddered' structure that helps them keep their costs down.
'Why pay someone else when we can pay ourselves'.
(That just sounds greedy, but it's good business sense).

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905613.page GMT FFG on the other hand likes to put out supplements/expansions to its boardgames. Look at Descent. Two expansions when I last checked with a large assortment of 'hero cards' (like character sheets) and correlating mini.
[/quote]

i believe they're on their 5th expansion. all of them (including the starter) are very high quality and include lots of goodies. when i first say the prices, i balked but then my friend (and Descent GM) opened up his copies to show me just how much you get.
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I am perfectly willing to be proven wrong by anyone who knows the prices of card-stock printing and the like.


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[quote=warboss]i believe they're on their 5th expansion. all of them (including the starter) are very high quality and include lots of goodies. when i first say the prices, i balked but then my friend (and Descent GM) opened up his copies to show me just how much you get.[/quote]

I don't think there's any question of FFG's quality or that they'd be ripping anyone off - I think most of us so far, myself included, have been very impressed by the production values of everything they've put out (odd exception - the black & white pamphlet that came with the DH GM shield). And I'm sure this new Fantasy RPG will be another high quality production with a hell of a lot of stuff in the box (in fact, having seen photos of its contents, you appear to get HEAPS in there).

We're just concerned about the direction its taking. It all seems very sudden. One moment we have the Fantasy RPG and then BANG - CARD GAME!!!!!! This is especially worrying for DH players who don't want to see their game revamped after such a short time and turned into something else that requires more material.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905620.page GMT FFG) just make a big deal about taking DH 'outside the Empire'.

I interpreted this as an expansion of their current line of DH, and people have linked to the demo material related to some of this upcoming line. So I in no way think that this board game will be a replacement for the current DH line.

I would however highly doubt that the miniatures contained within are to scale with the current GW line, or the earlier ][nquisitor 54mm line.

Still, want to play this game...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905661.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905661.page GMT FFG) just make a big deal about taking DH 'outside the Empire'.[/quote]

Yes. It's called Rogue Trader.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905664.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905664.page GMT
I'll buy it as long is it is not a tabletop game, or bloody star wars or more lotr stuff, not my cuppa chi. Boardgames from GW are just fantastic though. Love em! Viva BB!!

I think that dark heresy photo is some kind of fake, the sprue and the model look different shades of grey, and the sprue looks punched, as mentioned before, which does not make sense to me.

Here's hoping it's hulk, with a limited ed of plastic scenery (which would just kick ass)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905672.page GMT I'm thinking it's a new boardgame. Possibly some kinda new Kill Team rules in a box set, or some other novel way to use our 40k minis...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905687.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905696.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905708.page GMT
You will get one box that has been sealed shut. Inside something makes occasional noises. What is it? $70 you will find out....

...find out you bought a $70 plastic box filled with five mexican jumping beans.

At least the box will have an embossed Imperial Logo on it. Lucky you!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905736.page GMT
You will get one box that has been sealed shut. Inside something makes occasional noises. What is it? $70 you will find out....

...find out you bought a $70 plastic box filled with five mexican jumping beans.

At least the box will have an embossed Imperial Logo on it. Lucky you![/quote]

You do realize that the Mystery will be over on the 16th, and that you'll know what it is you're ordering before you order it, right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905747.page GMT
The mystery box is "Bugman's Game" with limited edition mini's...sorry to ruin your day.

I'm just guessing, so don't sue me! LOL.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905752.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905770.page GMT
So, in other words, this is an elaborate advertisment for Warhammer World and Bugman's Beer. Clever strategy...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905778.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905781.page GMT
You do realize that the Mystery will be over on the 16th, and that you'll know what it is you're ordering before you order it, right?[/quote]

Yes. And I hope it's not the beans. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905785.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905786.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905791.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905791.page GMT
So the mystery is that they're expanding the sales of the Bugman's game to Germany, which makes sense, given they love beer as well. I guess the next big thing will be bringing it to Australia, as we drink heaps of beer as well. America will have to wait though, I guess, as they drink expensive water that's coloured like beer.

This is all great stuff Scoprs. Keep us informed when you learn more. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905792.page GMT It was clear that you were kidding. Some others, not so sure. Oh, and I'm not taking the bait from the troll above. Why does every forum have someone like that? I've never insulted anyone here or given anyone a hard time no matter what I thought of their posts here. Civil discussion on forums tends to attract jerks and bullies for some reason.

I guess it's partly frustration, but just like the thread on this topic before it and just as I posted early on in this thread, there has been virtually no useful information posted here. This thread has proven to be near useless as far as any real information appearing in it. Just jokes and idle speculation. Fortunately, this will likely end on Saturday.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905804.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905810.page GMT
You sir are out of line. Come to NorCal and I shall teach thee about the California micro brewery. Everything that's good about beer, plus Santa Claus on the label.

But seriously. I think the WTF box is going to be filled with new minis of female space marines, along with their own codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905813.page GMT GW could do a licensed game called "Time Lord".

Then they could rehash the old Dalek mini from ages ago!
[/quote]

It would allow them to easily justify a new mini for at least one character every couple years...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905825.page GMT
Get thicker skin Skorps.

I wasn't trolling, insulting you or doing anything in any way related to trying to attack you or anyone. I just wanted to lampoon the Chinese Whispers that usually take over threads such as this, and how once innocent bit of supposition can turn into the gospel truth a page later.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905845.page GMT
At least there hasn't been a mention of...

Oops!

Almost blew it there!

Carry on!

Until the 16th!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905866.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905866.page GMT
Ignore me... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905872.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905872.page GMT
Ignore me... [/quote]

Nah, Johnny can ignore you enough for the rest of us.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905875.page GMT
OT, I am genuinely surprised that GW has been able to keep this a secret!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905885.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905885.page GMT
Note that this applies to rumours and to official releases. GW gives so little away even when they're being transparent that them telling us what they're about to do sometimes feels like a stab in the dark.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905889.page GMT
Like a portal straight to the Warp. [i]That'd[/i] be a kick in the nuts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905906.page GMT As if GW could possibly live up to the hype with anything short of a Thunderhawk or Warhound Titan...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905987.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905987.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905991.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/905991.page GMT GW Factory priceing on what it actually costs to produce each and every sprue in the current line... along with what they charge. )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906008.page GMT Not sure I'll be able to sleep tonight!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906081.page GMT Not sure I'll be able to sleep tonight![/quote]


I'm excited too. I'm looking forward to playing Space Hulk.

(I hope.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906091.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906091.page GMT GW store's employees have this info:

-It's a self-contained game - all you need to play is in the box (rules out plastic Titans/etc.)
-It's about 5.5 kilos all up
-It's limited edition

**coughSpaceHulkcough**]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906104.page GMT GW was doing a board/hybrid game thing, I would much rather see an update or re-release of Warhammer Quest, but that'll never happen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906106.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906127.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906127.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906140.page GMT
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And [b]Brook[/b] - Get with the program man. This is fun!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906237.page GMT TO MATCH MINE?!?

...I'm going to grow a neckbeard if this keeps up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906242.page GMT Speaking of which. I know its being announced this weekend but is it hitting the stores the same day or a date further down the line?

BoW- John]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906288.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906288.page GMT FFG product that matches the pic.

No [b][i]Fantasy Flight Games[/i][/b] product. Meaning, [i]possibly[/i], that it is a GW product.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906318.page GMT But I guess that's why we play wargames... Ok that's a bit moot, but you get what I mean.

sA]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906334.page GMT
Blue Harvest was the fake working title for Return of the Jedi.[/quote]

It is a clue. Good eyes. I'd keep that quite. about where you saw that perhaps.

A big clue.

..Blue Harvest was also the name of the Family Guy [u]remake [/u]of Star Wars yes ? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906348.page GMT DH 2nd Edition in the same style as the newly announced WFRPG 3rd Ed.

And that has me [i]terrified[/i].]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906349.page GMT
I am sure that is nothing to do with the mystery box. Which, I still think, is Space Hulk.

My worry having seen that pic would that FFG would perhaps not see it as viable to support two pretty much identical versions of a game, especially if they have a fuller control over one of them, seeing as they have done all the design work etc for one of them rather than inheriting it as they did with DH.

I've noticed, as I'm sure you have too-- unless I'm confusing you with other posters on here-- that the PCs in RT seem much more powerful and competent than even fairly experienced PCs in DH.

Looking at the new WFRPG and other recent games the current trend in games design to my eyes is much more towards more powerful PCs even at lower levels. I haven't played it but I keep hearing things like 40 HP 1st level characters in D & D 4th edition. DH really does go against this, perhaps even too much, especially given the shitty weapons that a lot of the Pcs start off with.

I have also heard some complaints and grumblings that the current DH game doesn't quite do what a lot of people thought they'd be able to do : which is pretty much play Harlon Nayl or Patience Kys or other Inquisition novel characters straight away. And they do have kind of a point, I do think the psykers powers at lower levels are often almost useless and not helped by his crappy weapon options and so on.

I apologise for the way this rambles, bad hangover.

So... I'm wondering if we might see the DH books, ,post the ones they have said are coming out, maybe moved to electronic pdf format-- like the WFRPG stuff ( the last few releases of that delayed hugely too.. oh, like the DH books !) -- whilst a new DH box set descent type game is unveiled. Obviously as the original DH and the forthcoming RT -- an entire chapter on navigators ! -- systems are compatible they could then keep producing books for RT which would, handily, also be compatible for the DH RPG as well, whilst selling the new improved DH board game type affair as an introductory set.


I hope this isn't what happens, and the snap is merely some thing amateur thing for someone's own game or a demo maybe.
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That book addresses those issues... we don't need a whole re-vamp of the game.

That said I'm not convinced that either are a 'board game' ala Warhammer Quest.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906367.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906367.page GMT
Boxed games don't weigh that much.

I worked for two weeks in the GW Mail Order room and no way does a boxed game weigh 5.5 KG.

However - Plastic Thunderhawk might do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906382.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906385.page GMT
At least there hasn't been a mention of...

[/quote]

Pan Fo?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906387.page GMT
Aye it has, it's called WFRPG 3rd edition.


Sorry, had to. (But I am crying on the inside.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906401.page GMT
12 pounds for the American readers..

That sounds like a lot... Didn't they brag about Warhammer quest weighing a lot when it first came out
I want to say it was 10 pound box; then again I just woke up]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906437.page GMT PCs in RT seem much more powerful and competent than even fairly experienced PCs in DH. [/quote]

RT characters are supposed to be more powerful than DH ones, always have been. The system has always been intended to be a three tier thing with people starting off in RT and as they get more powerful (using Ascension), switch over to RT and then onto the third, as yet unwritten, third level which introduces Marines and really high level stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906457.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906457.page GMT
On this mystery box thing, I really don't want it to be cool. I don't want it to be a success. If it is GW will just have the crazy notion of doing this with every major release, and become even more tight lipped. Fuel to their fires on keeping quiet.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906469.page GMT PCs in RT seem much more powerful and competent than even fairly experienced PCs in DH. [/quote]

RT characters are supposed to be more powerful than DH ones, always have been. The system has always been intended to be a three tier thing with people starting off in RT and as they get more powerful (using Ascension), switch over to RT and then onto the third, as yet unwritten, third level which introduces Marines and really high level stuff.[/quote]

I really, rally hope we still get to see that book.

Deathwatch info?

Deathwatch marines?

Meg-Xenos threats?

Yes, please!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906583.page GMT with two AI books...

Weight :6.5 Kilos....

So if it weighs 5.5 kilos it must be packed since plastic kits weigh a ton less than resin

If it is a Thawk I think I may go on a rampage....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906633.page GMT 40K fan would buy? Hell if they are Ubar versions with molded floorplates and decent mini's, lots of players would buy multiple copys, both for playing SpaceHulk and added terrain and mini's to their armys(if you are building Deathwing or Nids, you know what I mean).
Fine you want to churn up excitment about the project. But dont you think you will anger more of your customer base than please it, if you limited the sales and a large number of people that want it cant get it. I think that along with some of their other decisions lately might hurt the company in the long run.
Its one thing to make a limited run of a single mini(like the Black Library special editions), not everyone would want it.
So mabye if it is SpaceHulk, these come with some limited mini or something extra and then the basic game will come out later.
Just to conjecter some more.. What does "Everything you have been told is a Lie!" have to do with "SpaceHulk"? If this tag line actually has anything to do with the Mystery box, I dont see how they fit together(if it is indeed SH). To me it seems more of an Inqisition tag line, or mabye a Dark Angel or Chaos.
Anyway.. I guess we will all find out in a day or two.
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T'other day whilst mooching around in my local GW my Missus had the forethough to grab my shoulder and point at the PC Monitor. Upon it was an open copy of Photoshop with a poster stating "Congratulations, you guessed correctly; the mystery box is "Space Hulk"". Wording may have been different, but I noticed Space Hulk and Mystery Box and as I gasped with the knowledge the Emperor saw fit to grant me the GW employee looked around and angrily closed the program.

Unfortunately I've not had time to post this since that day, but for any who are desperate for confirmation I reckon that's the best we'll get before the announcement (oh ye of little patience, haha!).

Cheers,
Rogue Trooper[/quote]

This was posted over on the BoLS Lounge. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906647.page GMT PCs in RT seem much more powerful and competent than even fairly experienced PCs in DH. [/quote]

RT characters are supposed to be more powerful than DH ones, always have been. The system has always been intended to be a three tier thing with people starting off in RT and as they get more powerful (using Ascension), switch over to RT and then onto the third, as yet unwritten, third level which introduces Marines and really high level stuff.[/quote]

Except that's not true and never has been.

It was never intended to be a tiered system, and rules compatabilitya side there is no direct rule or idea to let you transport your character from one setting to another.

And there is no reason why an ex guardsman who happens to be in the retinue of a RT is or has to be more powerful than one who hangs with an Inquisitor either.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906681.page GMT
T'other day whilst mooching around in my local GW my Missus had the forethough to grab my shoulder and point at the PC Monitor. Upon it was an open copy of Photoshop with a poster stating "Congratulations, you guessed correctly; the mystery box is "Space Hulk"". Wording may have been different, but I noticed Space Hulk and Mystery Box and as I gasped with the knowledge the Emperor saw fit to grant me the GW employee looked around and angrily closed the program.

Unfortunately I've not had time to post this since that day, but for any who are desperate for confirmation I reckon that's the best we'll get before the announcement (oh ye of little patience, haha!).

Cheers,
Rogue Trooper[/quote]

This was posted over on the BoLS Lounge. [/quote]yeah,
I call BS... A Store computer would not be loaded with photoshop?
There is no need for a store to have PS, all propaganda will come preprinted from HQ and most corporate PC's are locked down so that employees can't load unlicensed software that could put the company in disrepute, Also dodgy software could crash the computer costing the company money...

I still think it's SpaceHulk...

Panic...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906682.page GMT
Last time Space Hulk was on shelves, it was a pretty limited run. I don't remember the exact stretch of time, but it was relatively short.

That said, I hope it's not Space Hulk. I have fond memories of the game but feel like I've been there and done that already. They can pretty it up all they want but lumbering around spaceship corridors, hunting aliens only has so much lasting appeal... Especially when we've already done it.

I wish they'd do something new... Or better yet, stop dicking around with side projects and finish the 5th ed codices!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906696.page GMT
The stuff I've seen on GW computer screens is usually their own software, and standard E-mail. Nothing to say that the picture couldn't've been opened in any of them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906705.page GMT
I am in agreement with its a Plastic Thunderhawk. The bastions, barricades, blastscape and such all were first revealed in the 5th ED. BRB. The only thing not in there was the Ironclad oh and the lanspeeder storm. What they do have in there is a picture of a thunderhawk so i am thinking that most everything being released was already being made. That was probably a prototype. To be honest Space Marines havent gotten their Superheavy yet. IG, ORKs have but space marines need one for Apoc.

So i vote Thunderhawk. And the weight sounds about right.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906719.page GMT
Lets say it's Space Hulk and it's a board game with everything you need in it to play straight out of the box...

Will the minis be slot together ones or will there be glue also be in the box?
How about paint?
Or will this be an opportunity to push the GW hobby ala "You can play Space Hulk straight away with the minatures provided however GW stocks a vast selection of paints and hobby materials allowing you to customise your models............"

Will this be marketed as a mainstream boardgame for kids or as a prodeuct for those already into the hobby?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906724.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906724.page GMT HBMC the dude quoted said it was in a photoshop window, but i get what your saying.

I'll be happy with SpaceHulk.
But I'd prefer it to be a rerelease/reimagining of Necromunda, with the advent of COD buildings a new NecroMunda could be very good!

Panic...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906761.page GMT
Point is I don't think that the legitimacy of this story hangs on the notion that he saw it on a program that shouldn't've been there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906769.page GMT What if its a p*** take version of 40k? That I would love to get hold of!!!
Never been done before, dropping a bomb, would explain the limited run and would appeal to most players no matter what army you collect therefore making it a good seller...
I'm going to be down if it isn't that now as it really appeals to me!
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906778.page GMT GW as that clever.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906787.page GMT
According to the interview the D6G guys did with the FFG guys, it sounds like there's potential for RT to have some interesting narrative frameworks as the PCs are kind of the 'representatives' of the larger ship's crew.

The way it sounded to me, a PC in the Rogue Trader profession <b>is</b> a Rogue Trader, and the primary member of his family expected to gt off his noble butt and actually do something to pay for everyone else's decadent lifestyle. The AdMech is the guy sent from the ship's complement to liaise with the command crew and represent the acolytes working at countless places on the kilometer-long ship the party is in charge of. The warrior-types are experts drawn from the ship's guards to act as bodyguards, master strategists, pilots, etc.

If the RT dies, well, maybe Uncle Ed or Little Timmy steps up to the plate. The AdMech guy takes a bolt pistol to the head, another may be sent up. if a profession is unfilled, things could get interesting. No warrior-types is one thing, but if there's no RT maybe the PCs ahve to deal with being the representatives of an 'absentee owner'... No AdMech might signal that the ship has somehow offended that group, and getting repairs and upgrades may be difficult.

A lot of this is how I'd run it as described by the FFG whose name I can't remember... it also provides a lot of narrative room to explain changes in the 'cast' as characters get killed or move on.


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[quote=Mick A]Something that was mentioned at the bottom of the last page, this 'Blue Harvest' re Family Guy clue.
What if its a p*** take version of 40k? That I would love to get hold of!!!
Never been done before, dropping a bomb, would explain the limited run and would appeal to most players no matter what army you collect therefore making it a good seller...
I'm going to be down if it isn't that now as it really appeals to me!
Mick[/quote]

Do you mean like a parody or annotated version? Like they took the rules and scribbled "I'm not sure why we did this" on them?

I actually suggested up-thread that the mythological '40k Advanced' ruleset would theoretically fit the specifications... New rules for an existing game that don't supersede current rules would fit the specs.

Of course, I'm doubtful of quality if developed in secret and if it would be maintained for long or if it would fall by the wayside.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906824.page GMT GW mini's and they come out at night and destroy all other companies mini's in your collection and piss on your board games. Yeah, that's it - not unlikely at all. GW always said they were going to take over the world.


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Maybe it is a copy of an animated film they have been secretly working on for ages. Big heroic marines, good but do evil deeds inquisitors, frightened but resolute in the face of the enemy guardsmen, girly eldar whining about how they ruled the universe but lost it all and are on an EMO kick. Chaos might be in it, very generic bad guys & the audience uses the spike to tell the difference between them and the good blue marines. No DE though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906840.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906840.page GMT According to the interview the D6G guys did with the FFG guys, it sounds like there's potential for RT to have some interesting narrative frameworks as the PCs are kind of the 'representatives' of the larger ship's crew.

The way it sounded to me, a PC in the Rogue Trader profession <b>is</b> a Rogue Trader, and the primary member of his family expected to gt off his noble butt and actually do something to pay for everyone else's decadent lifestyle. The AdMech is the guy sent from the ship's complement to liaise with the command crew and represent the acolytes working at countless places on the kilometer-long ship the party is in charge of. The warrior-types are experts drawn from the ship's guards to act as bodyguards, master strategists, pilots, etc.

If the RT dies, well, maybe Uncle Ed or Little Timmy steps up to the plate. The AdMech guy takes a bolt pistol to the head, another may be sent up. if a profession is unfilled, things could get interesting. No warrior-types is one thing, but if there's no RT maybe the PCs ahve to deal with being the representatives of an 'absentee owner'... No AdMech might signal that the ship has somehow offended that group, and getting repairs and upgrades may be difficult.

A lot of this is how I'd run it as described by the FFG whose name I can't remember... it also provides a lot of narrative room to explain changes in the 'cast' as characters get killed or move on.
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So It's kinda like the bridge of startrek??
RT = StarTrek 40K

Panic...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906869.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906869.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906924.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906924.page GMT I call BS... A Store computer would not be loaded with photoshop?
There is no need for a store to have PS, all propaganda will come preprinted from HQ and most corporate PC's are locked down so that employees can't load unlicensed software that could put the company in disrepute, Also dodgy software could crash the computer costing the company money...

I still think it's SpaceHulk...

Panic...[/quote]

QFT...

GW stores do not have Photoshop on their pc's and GW do make all their own promotional material at Lenton.

Secondly...

For this box set to actually weigh in at 5.5 KG or 12 Lbs to us imperialists, there has to be a rulebook at least the size of the 40k rulebook in hard back, and the amount of models in the box on the scale of WHQ. That box weighed in at a fair amount and even then it wasn't 5.5 KG.

If this is Space Hulk, i'll be incredibly surprised.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906947.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906947.page GMT
I'll bet the contents will be available at a later date too if they're plastic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906977.page GMT [/quote]

except forgeworld still sell epic models]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906992.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906994.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906994.page GMT "Limited Edition" can mean anything.

Ooohh... There's a numbered piece of paper saying "First edition"...

But maybe these are "Limited Edition" Leman Russ Battle Tanks and "Limited Edition" Chimeras?
- separate wheels
- separate tracks
- special, "limited edition" Imperial Guard Tank Accessory Sprue!
With a sticker!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906997.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/906997.page GMT So It's kinda like the bridge of startrek??
RT = StarTrek 40K
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Only at a very superficial level. One thing they said int he interview is that the characters in RT start out might 'bigger' than those in DH. A starter charcater isn't some guy an Inquisitor thought might have talent, but more an accomplished person who has to take on a real challenge.

Unlike ST, Rogue Traders seem to have a lot of independence. OK, most captains in ST fiction play things fast and loose, but they're theoretically part of a military hierarchy. A RT, I'd assume, might have some investors to satisfy, but it's more like Firefly, if Serenity had a crew numbering in the thousands... the RT 9and his 'trusted band' (I.E. the other PCs) can make decisions about how to use their ship, and there's some neat-sounding rules to abstract the economics (so the PCs are worrying about the fun stuff and not pinching pennies) and there's a difference between a RT vessel equipped for combat or trade... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907011.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907011.page GMT The box is a lie.
The box is a lie.
The box is a lie.

Here, have some cake…]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907034.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907034.page GMT
What if that was what was in the box. Every codex that hasn't been updated to 5th edition, gets a brand new codex.

Maybe they've just been testing the waters with these 'releases' that weren't tied to a new book. Like the orks in january. That might make my head asplode if it happens. unfortunately, it is in the same odds category as me winning the lottery.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907047.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907047.page GMT
If it's a Necromunda relaunch I will celebrate in the streets. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907098.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907106.page GMT
I am in agreement with its a Plastic Thunderhawk. The bastions, barricades, blastscape and such all were first revealed in the 5th ED. BRB. The only thing not in there was the Ironclad oh and the lanspeeder storm. What they do have in there is a picture of a thunderhawk so i am thinking that most everything being released was already being made. That was probably a prototype. To be honest Space Marines havent gotten their Superheavy yet. IG, ORKs have but space marines need one for Apoc.

So i vote Thunderhawk. And the weight sounds about right.[/quote]

You make a very valid point. Though I'm disinclined to think that it is the Thunderhawk if "limited release" actually means limited.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907180.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907188.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907188.page GMT
What if that was what was in the box. Every codex that hasn't been updated to 5th edition, gets a brand new codex.

Maybe they've just been testing the waters with these 'releases' that weren't tied to a new book. Like the orks in january. That might make my head asplode if it happens. unfortunately, it is in the same odds category as me winning the lottery.[/quote]
See that would be the kinda release that would blow me out of the water. GW isn't particularly renowned for such amazing things. Their releases are all overhyped a year in advance so when it finally hits shelves, everybody is already sick of hearing about it. If GW is capable of fantastic surprises, the box will not contain Space Hulk.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907198.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907198.page GMT "Limited Release" simply means it has a sticker saying "Limited Release"...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907209.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907219.page GMT
Wait, when was GD Deutschland again?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907222.page GMT
That makes a lot more sense.


And I'll still probably buy one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907230.page GMT
Secrets in companies are notoriously difficult to keep - families etc. All it takes is one posting with a new account that is never used again....

Maybe the secret is there is no secret. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907238.page GMT
That's what I'm betting on]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907245.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907245.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907246.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907246.page GMT GW will think its going to be good, but end the end its not... just like the new rules ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907247.page GMT
As Absoluteblue commented at paint night. Don't you think GW would market this thing traditionally if they thought it was cool? If it was something like space hulk, wouldn't it be much easier to move the product and build anticipation by showing pictures of well painted set ups, and have an article written in White Dwarf about how beloved it is.

The logic behind marketing a box with a question mark on it is very similar to selling a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke]pig in a poke[/url] In other words, its something that is easier to sell when the person doesn't even know what it is.

Limited edition, is also a great way of spinning the fact that they have a turd on their hands, they want to cut their losses, dump it and never make any more of it. Well, how do you sell a turd. Simple, jut don't tell anyone its a turd.....

and you don't let anyone smell it either.

Mystery box = fail]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907248.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907268.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907268.page GMT GW? You mean it is a test run to see if enought gamer buy it inorder for them to justify them making it a availible forever. Hmmmm, lets see if they did this with anything else? Baneblade, limited edition now you can order 100 of them from GW. Stompa, same thing.

Limited edition a marketing trick to get people to buy up the first run and then say, "Because of the demand we are going to do another production run because we like money." You will see, a year after the box comes out you will still be able to order them on the website. Not very limited. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907309.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907309.page GMT
That'd be a shame if it was. Because that'll mean that whatever Chinese company they farmed the production out to made something so ugly that GW doesn't want to do another run, and doesn't want to take any pictures of it in order to advertise it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907310.page GMT GD? Cause all this speculation is doing my head in...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907311.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907311.page GMT GW? You mean it is a test run to see if enought gamer buy it inorder for them to justify them making it a availible forever. Hmmmm, lets see if they did this with anything else? Baneblade, limited edition now you can order 100 of them from GW. Stompa, same thing.

Limited edition a marketing trick to get people to buy up the first run and then say, "Because of the demand we are going to do another production run because we like money." You will see, a year after the box comes out you will still be able to order them on the website. Not very limited. [/quote]

I think the old saying of "limited to the number we can sell" springs to mind - especially looking at the DVD market!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907313.page GMT
Is the procedure for pre-ordering the Mystery Box the same for each GW store or does it vary from outlet to outlet?

Does a gamer need to camp outside GW store before it opens on a certain date to have the opportunity to pre-order the item as would be expected with a new iPhone or a new gaming console?

Does the total cost of the Mystery Box need to be paid for in advance on the pre-order day?

If the contents of the Mystery Box are going to be released at GW Games Day in Germany (this weekend, correct?) then when is the deadline to visit a GW store to pre-order the Mystery Box?

Thanks in advance for the feedback and speculation.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907324.page GMT gw secret ever? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907333.page GMT GW will think its going to be good, but end the end its not... just like the new rules [/quote]

I feel the same way. I want it to be Space Hulk or a redo of Necromunda or something but I think it's a really lame thing that they're gonna put out.

I mean there a ton of things that GW has put out and made it sound like it the best thing ever made and it turns out to be a steaming pile of poopy.

and I wouldn't even want to buy a Thunderhawk. that's just me though. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907363.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907363.page GMT
T'other day whilst mooching around in my local GW my Missus had the forethough to grab my shoulder and point at the PC Monitor. Upon it was an open copy of Photoshop with a poster stating "Congratulations, you guessed correctly; the mystery box is "Space Hulk"". Wording may have been different, but I noticed Space Hulk and Mystery Box and as I gasped with the knowledge the Emperor saw fit to grant me the GW employee looked around and angrily closed the program.

Unfortunately I've not had time to post this since that day, but for any who are desperate for confirmation I reckon that's the best we'll get before the announcement (oh ye of little patience, haha!).

Cheers,
Rogue Trooper[/quote]

This was posted over on the BoLS Lounge. [/quote]yeah,
I call BS... A Store computer would not be loaded with photoshop?
There is no need for a store to have PS, all propaganda will come preprinted from HQ and most corporate PC's are locked down so that employees can't load unlicensed software that could put the company in disrepute, Also dodgy software could crash the computer costing the company money...

I still think it's SpaceHulk...

Panic...[/quote]

I was just at a GW store, the manager was hoping I had some info on the Mystery Box. So at least in the US, this is still a mystery.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907369.page GMT
Is the procedure for pre-ordering the Mystery Box the same for each GW store or does it vary from outlet to outlet?

Does a gamer need to camp outside GW store before it opens on a certain date to have the opportunity to pre-order the item as would be expected with a new iPhone or a new gaming console?

Does the total cost of the Mystery Box need to be paid for in advance on the pre-order day?

If the contents of the Mystery Box are going to be released at GW Games Day in Germany (this weekend, correct?) then when is the deadline to visit a GW store to pre-order the Mystery Box?

Thanks in advance for the feedback and speculation.[/quote]

Dunno mate. However, after a quick chitterchatterchinwag with my local Boys in Blue, I can pretty much confim the price at £50, in so far as that is what they've been told. As to how to Pre-Order, I'd imagine it'll be exactly the same as any other (In Store or Online). Contents, still not a clue. They are either playing a really good game of Tight Mouth Larry, or they genuinely haven't been told.

Me, I'll be outside my local GW, £50 in hand (or not) on Monday 10 a.m. sharp. Just to make sure like.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907397.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907401.page GMT Uk other than official posters.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lt_brookman/Emotes/emot-bandwagon.gif[/IMG]

Oh man, this is so going to suck.

/[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lt_brookman/Emotes/emot-bandwagon.gif[/IMG]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907409.page GMT
The wait is finally going to pay off.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907419.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907427.page GMT GW promotions.



Or is it Omegon?



Emperor Protects


[i]Edited because I'm dumb[/i]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907544.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907544.page GMT
The wait is finally going to pay off.[/quote]

I think you'll find a lot of people along for that particular ride with you!

(maybe)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907549.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907549.page GMT
The wait is finally going to pay off.[/quote]

..you still want me to order you two copies yes ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907567.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907567.page GMT
Im calling it: GW fertilizer. Guaranteed to grow whatever you throw in it.

That or a printed copy of Obumbo's HR3200 Healthcare bill.

Either way, same thing.....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907578.page GMT with two AI books...

Weight :6.5 Kilos....

So if it weighs 5.5 kilos it must be packed since plastic kits weigh a ton less than resin

If it is a Thawk I think I may go on a rampage....[/quote] I doubt "Thawk." From the word it seems like GW has a day planned around it. If that's true it has to be more than that. If it were a Thawk people would be annoyed at its limited nature, though the price does fit. My thinking was possibly the big Dark Angel chapel, that we saw and was told was in plastic, but once again that has the issue of how do you plan a day around that.
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It's not a thunderhawk.
It's not a Dark Angels Chapel.
It's not the 'Indomitable Fortress.'

The one single consistant thing they've said is.

It's a [u]Game[/u].

So, unless you're playing 'spin the bolter' it is exceedingly unlikely that it's a Thunderhawk.

Now, I said this early, and it is only the word of a random staffmember, however.

What he said was, that it'll be revealed on the 17th in the store (presumably cause not everyone is on the interweb to know about GD: Germany), and the staff will have a few copies of the game for their use that they can give demo games etc to play on the day.

He didn't give any indication/suggestion [u]whatsoever[/u] that the game would actually be for sale that day.

As for limited editioney stuff, that isn't exactly unprecadented - remember Bomberz over da sulphur river.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907626.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907626.page GMT


Emperor Protects]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907649.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907654.page GMT GW's never done before... and its heavy... and limited.

I know what it is! A working version of Warhammer 40k. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907789.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907789.page GMT GW and A gut told me its not space hulk...He said you can buy it online or order it at the store , he also said they are not telling them anything...
He did show me the new blastscape box , looks great...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907978.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907978.page GMT GW and A gut told me its not space hulk...He said you can buy it online or order it at the store , he also said they are not telling them anything...
He did show me the new blastscape box , looks great...[/quote]

You've just been hoodwinked. Everything you have just been told is a lie.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907982.page GMT
A Russian-Roulette based game with a Bolt Pistol would be hilarious. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907985.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/907985.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908000.page GMT
it would probably go for around 250 US if it was indeed a plastic T-hawk]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908003.page GMT GW plot to rob us all of our hard-earned money.

I can see the YMDC forum now: "mai bp cuzed a glansing hitt n didnt kill my opp, do ai win lol???!!!??"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908007.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908007.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908009.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908062.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908062.page GMT

[quote=dienekes96]I've been waiting months to NOT buy this. I can't wait! Monday, I get to lord it all over your sell-out a$$e$. I'm thrilled to finally be this close to not purchasing the product. I'm going to spend all day Monday talking online about not buying this release.[/quote]

All snarkiness aside, what if it turns out to be something you like?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908070.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908145.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908145.page GMT GD is on Sunday the 16th unless I am mistaken. Today is Saturday ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908242.page GMT
When will the mystery end?!?!?!?

Oh yeah, tomorrow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908476.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908509.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908509.page GMT
Other than that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908577.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908577.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908580.page GMT
Im calling it: GW fertilizer. Guaranteed to grow whatever you throw in it.

That or a printed copy of Obumbo's HR3200 Healthcare bill.

Either way, same thing.....[/quote]

Wait GW is releasing a box of bricks they found behind their HQ? I see how using "mystery box" will help sales. Spess Brix ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908592.page GMT

[quote=dienekes96]I've been waiting months to NOT buy this. I can't wait! Monday, I get to lord it all over your sell-out a$$e$. I'm thrilled to finally be this close to not purchasing the product. I'm going to spend all day Monday talking online about not buying this release.[/quote]

All snarkiness aside, what if it turns out to be something you like?[/quote]I was being facetious. I'm sick of this childish PR practice (among their others - less than two months from the SW, and we had to find the cover art on previews after two wastelands of Games Days), but I am excited for the product. If it is Space Hulk, I'll absolutely be purchasing it. If it is something else I want, I'll absolutely purchase it. I was just ironically commenting on people who made "decisions" based on specious rumors, and how excited people get when they tell people how unexcited they are.

C'mon guys...it is me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908659.page GMT

[quote=dienekes96]I've been waiting months to NOT buy this. I can't wait! Monday, I get to lord it all over your sell-out a$$e$. I'm thrilled to finally be this close to not purchasing the product. I'm going to spend all day Monday talking online about not buying this release.[/quote]

All snarkiness aside, what if it turns out to be something you like?[/quote]I was being facetious. I'm sick of this childish PR practice (among their others - less than two months from the SW, and we had to find the cover art on previews after two wastelands of Games Days), but I am excited for the product. If it is Space Hulk, I'll absolutely be purchasing it. If it is something else I want, I'll absolutely purchase it. I was just ironically commenting on people who made "decisions" based on specious rumors, and how excited people get when they tell people how unexcited they are.

C'mon guys...it is me.[/quote]

I'm here to say that I support Dienekes96, and that I approve his message.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908682.page GMT GW's approach to tell us what is coming out is somewhat childish. I can't see what the problem is with having a "what's going up this year" release. No need to give date's, just an idea of what's coming out, people will still get excited so they lose nothing in this approach.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908694.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908694.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908701.page GMT FFG are doing it now...
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908793.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908793.page GMT GW staff today:

It's an 'alien' like in the movies, well, technically not. GW will be releasing one alien for each GW on the 16th. On the 17th the first set of mystery boxes will be realeased being the first part of a hand scanner - the game? To avoid the aliens and stay alive.

Staff were also brandishing about the rumour of the fish men.

However, i do know what they know after speaking to the manager (we go back a little way and so he let me know the facts he has so far and his suspicion (which matches mine too), some is confirmination of things said before, sorry for any repetition
it's a stand alone game, however it is compatible with current ranges and will be supported
it will sell equally as well as 40K - managers comment - 'the only thing that will sell as well as 40K is more 40K!'
box contains 3d scenary
suspected size is about that of the fortified mannor - SUSPECTED not fact (yet)
stores have been given a clue - new surround for pc point - from design it's either necromunda or space hulk, most likly space hulk.
the manager said he was 95% sure it would be space hulk, although he wouldn't mind necromunda either. Chances of it being anything else seemed a positive NO from him.
they have been told it's limited edition, however anyone who preorders is garanteed a copy - sounds very limited GW!!!!!

I'll be ordering one 9am monday - first job when i get to work.
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I'm guessing the 'limited edition' part will be the "3d Terrain" and possibly some metal miniatures?

Like GW couldn't have just said it IS Space Hulk, and to celebrate the 20 year anniversary and this new version, we'll be offering a limited edition box set (with all of the above extras) and then after that, you'll be able to get the 'regular' edition?

This is kinda lame.

Everyone wanted Space Hulk to begin with!

"Everything you've been told is a lie" indeed!

*****************

Also, I HOPE this will also be available via the Web for pre-order too.

As far as I can tell, there is NO GW store anywhere near me...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908831.page GMT GW!!!!! [/quote]

So long as you don't pre-order that, [i]and[/i] pre-order any item that happens to be released a couple weeks after.

[quote]"Everything you've been told is a lie" indeed! [/quote]

Yeah, pretty unimpressed. If they hadn't of tried to pretend it's a big secret I probably would've even bought a box.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908840.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908840.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908846.page GMT GW website, and ties in with the website draw.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908851.page GMT Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908866.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908866.page GMT cr~~ marketing. They try hard to sell the hobby as being a good thing with 'I'm lying to you' printed right across their chest for the customer to read. Good thinking there GW!

Edit - after reading through some earlier comments on this, with regards to who knows etc. - apparently this new thing has been developed by new people so even current developers were kept in the dark. Not sure if i believe this but could explain how only 4 people supposedly know what it is for sure, that is 4 poeple within GW itself. Apparently art and everything was outsourced..... make what you want of that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908894.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908894.page GMT I wonder what 3d terrain could mean? It's pretty open?

Plastic walls everything like COD - Awesome
Card stock like the dragons tower in talisman - not so Awesome
Plastic Doors/Bulkheads like WHQ - cool.
3D plastic extras like Terminals/CATs/fueltanks/ etc would also be cool.

I was playing a amazing computer version of spacehulk I found last night, It's by [url=http://www.teardown.se/]teardown[/url]
It's Fan made and GW liked it but said that it can only be published via THQ who arn't interested, so it's stuck in limbo...

I normally hate piracy but in this case THQ are idiots this is a product they could sell! but wont?

Teardown are currently removing the terminators and genestealers from the game and calling it alien attack?
but you can get a copy of the terminator version here -> [url=http://www.freegamesblog.org/space-hulk/]SPaceHulk[/url]

Panic...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/908973.page GMT
Source: [url]http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?s=25c10a4ea00b962cd64559aca446de9b&showtopic=172686&st=225[/url]

http://img208.imageshack.us/i/56025913.jpg/

http://img41.imageshack.us/i/26322768.jpg/

http://img20.imageshack.us/i/27762013.jpg/

~ Mad


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909011.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909011.page GMT GW said they couldn't fit it in the box so they will be doing 3D cardboard scenery. This could explain the weight...
Mick]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909013.page GMT Fixed for the lazy
[quote=CallMeMad]
[img]http://img208.yfrog.com/img208/9306/56025913.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3326/26322768.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/492/27762013.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Looks awesome!

Panic...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909022.page GMT
New Space Hulk version in the works??


Ed Holzman (Bearcat89):
"I had the pleasure of meeting Jervis Johnson a couple of months ago at the Chaos Cup BloodBowl tournament at GW's Midwest US Headquarters "Battle Bunker". I was pleased to find out he is a great guy, and I had a very relaxed and enjoyable conversation with him. After talking a bit about BB and 40K, I brought up the subject of Space Hulk. I told him that I was a member of the Yahoo SH Group and that at times there are still heavy debated views here concerning the game. He got a slight chuckle out of that. I can not remember everything discussed, as all the BB coaches hit the bar afterwards and we were talking about tons of stuff while watching the World Series (US Baseball), drinking, that - and the nice scenery of Hooters waitresses were quite distracting....


Anyway's, here is some scoop I do remember that I wanted to share with the group here.

It seems as though GW knows that the demand and customer base is there. Basically he is pretty sure that there will be a new Space Hulk game released in the not too distant future. He said they will have to work with marketing to figure out how to put this out, as it must be known there will not be regular additional releases for it like the other Specialist Games, and will remain a stand alone game. I asked him about how they could do it reasonably as 5 Terminators now go for $50 so the 10 Terminators alone would go for $100. Then add on Genestealers and board pieces and nobody would be able to afford it. He said they would do it similar to how "Battle For Macragge", less detailed and simpler designed minis, to cut back on total overall costs. He mentioned something like that they were researching and believe that the card tile pieces will be replaced by something else (I'm drawing a blank, but he may have said plastics?). I brought up the subject that I read that the designers of 2nd edition wish that they did put the timed game play for the SM player. He agreed it adds so much to the game and said that they looked into sand timers (fairly costly), but that technology has come way down in price, that it looks like they would use a digital timer - where they could even put sounds in there as time is running out (like a heart beating fast he put it) and another sound when time is up (I'm thinking a death groan would be cool for that). He says that this timer is less of a cost from a supplier than the old sand timer. Towards the end of the conversation I said that would be really cool if they did come out with it, and the impression I got from his reactions is that it is seems that this may go through - and if so fairly soon!

So that's all I have. Who knows with GW's ever changing situation if it will indeed make its way to final production and the shelves of retailers, but I know I'll (and probably everyone here) will be getting it if it does come out."

From Game Board Geek
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[quote=covenant84]It's an 'alien' like in the movies, well, technically not. GW will be releasing one alien for each GW on the 16th. [b]On the 17th the first set of mystery boxes will be realeased being the first part of a hand scanner - the game? To avoid the aliens and stay alive[/b].[/quote]

What the hell does all this mean, especially the bold part?


(I know there is a rumor that there will be one box released for every store GW has, but that is very unrealistic Imo) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909089.page GMT
sA]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909134.page GMT


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[quote=covenant84]It's an 'alien' like in the movies, well, technically not. GW will be releasing one alien for each GW on the 16th. [b]On the 17th the first set of mystery boxes will be realeased being the first part of a hand scanner - the game? To avoid the aliens and stay alive[/b].[/quote]

What the hell does all this mean, especially the bold part?


(I know there is a rumor that there will be one box released for every store GW has, but that is very unrealistic Imo) [/quote]

The one box per store rumor is rubbish. Production set up and design costs are the same for 500, 5000, or 50,000 copies. No way they would make a run of 1 per store, when they can sell 10-100 per store.

1 copy per GW store makes no sense, if they are shipping them to independent stores, and I've already been told I'll get them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909199.page GMT
sA[/quote]

Ack!

I certainly hope not!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909204.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909204.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909222.page GMT The one box per store rumor is rubbish. Production set up and design costs are the same for 500, 5000, or 50,000 copies. No way they would make a run of 1 per store, when they can sell 10-100 per store.

1 copy per GW store makes no sense, if they are shipping them to independent stores, and I've already been told I'll get them.[/quote]

Where is it mentioned to be 1 copy per wtf-box?
Maybe a "mystery" box has several copies...

Wouldnt it be a possibility to supply all the pre-orders of customers and independent-store orders,
but restrict the number of pick-up copys provided in their own stores?
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As much as AoBR models are still 40K, they're still second-rate. However, considering that you get $150 of SM models along with a bitz box full of Orky goodness for like $70CDN, it's still worth it.

Especially when you're as horribly broke as I am.

AoBR models are like taking your cousin to prom. She may be all dressed up, but EVERYONE knows. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909242.page GMT 1 copy per GW store makes no sense, if they are shipping them to independent stores, and I've already been told I'll get them.[/quote]

It comes down to more than just set up costs. Its about profit margins, if some portion of production is a limited run including things that otherwise not be included it comes more to the amount of profit necessary to justify the capital investment in product. I seriously doubt they could sell a hundred in most stores. Just because GW could hypothetically make a $99 game and sell for $100, doesn't mean they can justify doing so for $1 profit, same principle but larger investment and a smaller margin to work with if its as packed as its supposed to be. I still believe they will release a more basic, less packed in version later on. The limited production is much for the same reason GW released the really big terrain sets as limited runs.
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It seems as though GW knows that the demand and customer base is there. Basically he is pretty sure that there will be a new Space Hulk game released in the not too distant future. He said they will have to work with marketing to figure out how to put this out, as it must be known there will not be regular additional releases for it like the other Specialist Games, and will remain a stand alone game. I asked him about how they could do it reasonably as 5 Terminators now go for $50 so the 10 Terminators alone would go for $100. Then add on Genestealers and board pieces and nobody would be able to afford it. He said they would do it similar to how "Battle For Macragge", less detailed and simpler designed minis, to cut back on total overall costs. He mentioned something like that they were researching and believe that the card tile pieces will be replaced by something else (I'm drawing a blank, but he may have said plastics?). I brought up the subject that I read that the designers of 2nd edition wish that they did put the timed game play for the SM player. He agreed it adds so much to the game and said that they looked into sand timers (fairly costly), but that technology has come way down in price, that it looks like they would use a digital timer - where they could even put sounds in there as time is running out (like a heart beating fast he put it) and another sound when time is up (I'm thinking a death groan would be cool for that). He says that this timer is less of a cost from a supplier than the old sand timer. Towards the end of the conversation I said that would be really cool if they did come out with it, and the impression I got from his reactions is that it is seems that this may go through - and if so fairly soon!_[/quote]

So basically they have to make sub par figures for the box because they are normally so over priced it would be cheaper to buy the whole Space Hulk game than the plastic Terminators seperately. This is merely a result of their gross over pricing structure, making 5 plastic figures £25.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909262.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909264.page GMT
As much as AoBR models are still 40K, they're still second-rate. However, considering that you get $150 of SM models along with a bitz box full of Orky goodness for like $70CDN, it's still worth it.

Especially when you're as horribly broke as I am.

AoBR models are like taking your cousin to prom. She may be all dressed up, but EVERYONE knows. [/quote]
Thats a bit dramatic. As reduced in quality as the AoBR models are they are still no where near as bad as what GW had 10 years ago or 10 years before that.

Take this:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2536/3800882537_1a8b754ffa.jpg
or this:
http://spacehulk.beckerf.de/assets/images/SH_Term06.jpg

Don't become an elitist. You play a game with plastic figures that many people consider childish and toy like. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909269.page GMT
...

A self-contained game...

...

Hasn't anyone thought of the most horrible possible outcome?!?

Could it be a [b]GW game with Pre-painted minis[/b], much like Rackham did with [i]AT-43[/i]?!?

That would be the end of everything....

I hope that I'm wrong...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909271.page GMT SH - Is this going to be without hybrids?
Or can you sub them for IG genestealer cultists.

One of my favorite SH releases was actually the issue of WD that brought in regular SMs in place of Terminators. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909276.page GMT
As much as AoBR models are still 40K, they're still second-rate. However, considering that you get $150 of SM models along with a bitz box full of Orky goodness for like $70CDN, it's still worth it.

Especially when you're as horribly broke as I am.

AoBR models are like taking your cousin to prom. She may be all dressed up, but EVERYONE knows. [/quote]
Thats a bit dramatic. As reduced in quality as the AoBR models are they are still no where near as bad as what GW had 10 years ago or 10 years before that.

Don't become an elitist. You play a game with plastic figures that many people consider childish and toy like. [/quote]

It's not that I don't like the models. Hell, I still bought a set, just 'cause it's a good deal.
But for me, the part of the hobby that's the most fun is making each model something special. I know, I know, it's a great deal, and it's a great way to bring new people into the hobby, but you can still tell which models are AoBR and which aren't. It's just that I like the other boxes better, but I'm just too broke to get them.

But back on topic... I desperately hope that the minis aren't pre-painted. Building & painting is half the fun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909288.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909288.page GMT SH - Is this going to be without hybrids?
Or can you sub them for IG genestealer cultists.

One of my favorite SH releases was actually the issue of WD that brought in regular SMs in place of Terminators. [/quote]

That was all done for the original version. They issued many missions in the magazine with new floor templates for you to use in your maps. There were also rules for standard marines, and traitor terminators on board the hulks. The Genestealer and Deathwing expansions gave loads of new weapons to the Marines, multi-level hulk maps, genetealer hybrids and psychic powers.

They did none of this for the second release, beside a few supporting articles in WD at the time, the original had years of support, the second had months and no expansions.

Though the plastic marines in the original Space Hulk were terrible. A thing of their time really, being such early plastics.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909295.page GMT
Could it be a [b]GW game with Pre-painted minis[/b], much like Rackham did with [i]AT-43[/i]?!?

That would be the end of everything....

I hope that I'm wrong...[/quote]

GW workers supposedly received a letter telling them to schedule time to paint in the weeks prior to the september release, so that would implicate it's not pre-painted.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909296.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909296.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909301.page GMT
We can all dream. That's probably one of mine. What magic that would be. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909309.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909309.page GMT de/assets/images/SH_Term06.jpg[/quote]

Black Templars with upside down Ultramarine symbols ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909314.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909314.page GMT Hasn't anyone thought of the most horrible possible outcome?!?

Could it be a [b]GW game with Pre-painted minis[/b], much like Rackham did with [i]AT-43[/i]?!?

That would be the end of everything....

I hope that I'm wrong...[/quote]

Looking at how well all the pre-painted stuff is doing, I can't see anyone thinking it's a good thing. GW has always had a very negative veiw of prepaints. There would have to be a 180 degree turn in attitude towards prepaints, flying in the face of lots of evidence that it wouldn't go over well and make money.

I think we can all agree that GW likes money.

Hmm, I like it too, come to think of it. I'm looking forward to my sales reps face when I place my order for my 'Mystery Boxes" on monday.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909318.page GMT DH, super; if it's Space Hulk, I might pee my pants in happiness.

Either way, GW is going to walk away with more of my money. They're scarily, upsettingly good at that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909327.page GMT GW will ever do a pre-painted miniature set is if its an entirely separate IP property to 40k or Fantasy. Something that if it tanked wouldn't hurt their corporate identity. Something like LotR, if they had really wanted to when they first got the rights.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909329.page GMT
Of course that is a much better story than "if we don't do it we will go out of business for sure".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909339.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909339.page GMT GW's stores have gotten a deadline when they are supposed to have painted the contents of the mystery box. So pre-painted seems to be out of the question.

Furthermore, the same guy stated that it is a complete game. Which ties into the reason behind the tight painting schedule. GW wants each and every store to have the game painted, up and running ASAP after the launch, to tie into gaming seminars in their stores.

So - a complete game straight out of the box. Not pre-painted

I apologize if I'm just reiterating what has already been stated previously in this thread. It had become a bit too long of a thread that I would bother check it thoroughly before posting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909348.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909386.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909394.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909394.page GMT
Of course that is a much better story than "if we don't do it we will go out of business for sure".[/quote]

Let me just show you this. And might i remind you , this is poll from warhammer where the game supposedly to be heavily hobby oriented as well.
even that , the figure speaks different doesnt it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/245996.page

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909403.page GMT GW will ever do a pre-painted miniature set is if its an entirely separate IP property to 40k or Fantasy. Something that if it tanked wouldn't hurt their corporate identity. Something like LotR, if they had really wanted to when they first got the rights.[/quote]

Which they did, sort of. Sabertooth games did the LOTR 30mm scale game with prepaints on hex bases. GW liscensed it to them, then later bought Sabertooth. It went through totally different channels of distribution than regular GW product.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909414.page GMT GW will never do pre paint. Why? because
how will they push their whole hobby section if the
customers no longer have the incentive?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909421.page GMT GW just has to believe that prepainted minis would make them more money than model kits and all the peripheral supplies. I think the biggest thing against that (un)likelyhood is that they do charge so much and can already get away large prices without additional services.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909430.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909430.page GMT GW will create their own Painting Service like everyone here on Dakka!

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909453.page GMT GW just has to believe that prepainted minis would make them more money than model kits and all the peripheral supplies. I think the biggest thing against that (un)likelyhood is that they do charge so much and can already get away large prices without additional services.[/quote]

Ah i should be specific , i meant never as in the 40k / Fantasy line.

Space Hulk could be pre painted ( would be possible ) and i can picture seeing it in walmart]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909459.page GMT GW just has to believe that prepainted minis would make them more money than model kits and all the peripheral supplies. I think the biggest thing against that (un)likelyhood is that they do charge so much and can already get away large prices without additional services.[/quote]

Ah i should be specific , i meant never as in the 40k / Fantasy line.

Space Hulk could be pre painted ( would be possible ) and i can picture seeing it in walmart[/quote]

If it's going to be prepainted, I think you'd be less likely to find a lot of it in stores already dedicated to 40K, and in somewhere big chain superstore. Prepainting would just be a way to try to nab new players who just want to start playing now, and consider building/painting later, which is when they'd go to the dedicated stores.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909484.page GMT GW will ever do Pre painted sets because... How would they ever sell there ever so expensive spray paints, and citidel paints or the foundation paints? lol


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I dont think GW will ever do Pre painted sets because... How would they ever sell there ever so expensive spray paints, and citidel paints or the foundation paints? lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909494.page GMT GW will ever do Pre painted sets because... How would they ever sell there ever so expensive spray paints, and citidel paints or the foundation paints? lol


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I dont think GW will ever do Pre painted sets because... How would they ever sell there ever so expensive spray paints, and citidel paints or the foundation paints? lol[/quote]

Easy. You sell a line of re-primer for pre-painted miniatures, and it's like printing money.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909523.page GMT GW will ALWAYS do what will make them money. Just like they do with fluff, they'll change it to what they need to hear to do it.

Just ask the Squats . . .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909525.page GMT
It's a box that you can put your money in.

And then you give it back to GW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909535.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909535.page GMT SH Termies laying about collecting dust. I'm emberassed to see them. In comparison - AoBR Terminators are leaps and bounds ahead.
And hell, 10 more Termies in the collection? AoBR or not - I'm one step closer to an Apoc formation!

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[quote=Hollismason]Its fucking space hulk.[/quote]

You wouldn't happen to post at SomethingAwful and EternityofWar under a similar pseudonym, eh? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909819.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909819.page GMT
Space Hulk - Wolves Style]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909842.page GMT
Space Hulk - Wolves Style[/quote]

ahh its 9:53 PM for me, I hope I get to see some stuff within the next 4 hours....or at least hear things]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909868.page GMT SW dex cover, what does it look like? Sorry for the off topicness.


Oh and I still think it could be a Time war game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/909876.page GMT GW would set aliens (like in the movie) loose and you would have to buy a hand scanner if you wanted to survive.

edit - Just noticed that on the GW advance order site there's a picture of a couple of dice with explosion, bolt and another symbol on - more evidence that it's SH or has this always been there? (click on the advance order page and it's on the heading 'gaming' at the head of the advance order menu) [url]http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landing.jsp?catId=cat1290031&rootCatGameStyle=[/url]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910082.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910098.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910101.page GMT


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blood bowl dice i think you'll find ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910103.page GMT GD germany]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910109.page GMT GW store's employees reckon the whole point of the Mystery Box is to shut down the rumour mill.

They failed spectacularly, as I think you'll agree.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910139.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910165.page GMT GW store's employees reckon the whole point of the Mystery Box is to shut down the rumour mill.

They failed spectacularly, as I think you'll agree.[/quote]
if this is true then EPIC LOLZ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910171.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910171.page GMT GW store's employees reckon the whole point of the Mystery Box is to shut down the rumour mill.

They failed spectacularly, as I think you'll agree.[/quote]
if this is true then EPIC LOLZ[/quote]

Did they shut down rumor mill so we'll have one more very much needed reason to buy the advertisement pamphlet they called White Dwarf?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910173.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910179.page GMT
So, all Australians, buy it overseas where it will be 30% cheaper. And that's not at discounters, that's just GWUK or GWUS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910193.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910193.page GMT uk]discounters[/url] are you talking about, H'?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910197.page GMT
[url]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=6867[/url]

[quote]Meine “Agenten” berichten, dass es in der Tat die Space Hulk Box sein wird!
Es gibt offenbar keine weiteren Infos, auch den Preis offenbar noch nicht. Bestellbar ab morgen und auf einige wenige Exemplare pro Laden begrenzt (er meint, 10 oder 15 Stück).
Die Kiste soll größer sein als die normalen Grundboxen.[/quote]

This ones rather vague about it.

[quote]Meine Bekannten sind auch gerade in Köln und haben es aus erster Hand wie man so schön sagt.[/quote]

This one says that he got aquaintances that are in cologne right now and theyhad the info first hand.


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Trot out the infamous "Pics, or it didn't happen!" line!!!

And you're right - until we see confirmation, who knows?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910204.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910204.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910207.page GMT
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[quote]Meine “Agenten” berichten, dass es in der Tat die Space Hulk Box sein wird!
Es gibt offenbar keine weiteren Infos, auch den Preis offenbar noch nicht. Bestellbar ab morgen und auf einige wenige Exemplare pro Laden begrenzt (er meint, 10 oder 15 Stück).
Die Kiste soll größer sein als die normalen Grundboxen.[/quote]

This ones rather vague about it.

[quote]Meine Bekannten sind auch gerade in Köln und haben es aus erster Hand wie man so schön sagt.[/quote]

This one says that he got aquaintances that are in cologne right now and theyhad the info first hand.


As long as I dont see pics though ... those should come up tonight. [/quote]
I don't suppose you could have translated that for us.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910208.page GMT
[url]http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=6867[/url]

[quote]Meine “Agenten” berichten, dass es in der Tat die Space Hulk Box sein wird!
Es gibt offenbar keine weiteren Infos, auch den Preis offenbar noch nicht. Bestellbar ab morgen und auf einige wenige Exemplare pro Laden begrenzt (er meint, 10 oder 15 Stück).
Die Kiste soll größer sein als die normalen Grundboxen.[/quote]


My "agents" report that it really is gonna be the Space Hulk Box.
Appearently there are no further informations and no price yet. You can order tomorrow and there should only be a few per store (about 10 to 15).
The box is suppose to be bigger than the regular starters.

[quote]Meine Bekannten sind auch gerade in Köln und haben es aus erster Hand wie man so schön sagt.[/quote]

This one says that he got aquaintances that are in cologne right now and theyhad the info first hand.
[/quote]


Added translation on the first one.
Second one was already translated. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910218.page GMT
[quote]My “agents” report that it will be indeed the space Hulk box! There is not obviously no further information, also the price obviously yet. Order bar as of tomorrow and on some few copies per shop limited (it means, 10 or 15 pieces). The crate should be larger than the normal basic boxes.[/quote]

[quote]
Officially also not until tomorrow on-line will be. My acquaintance are also straight in Cologne and have it from first hand as one say so beautifully.
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Trot out the infamous "Pics, or it didn't happen!" line!!!

And you're right - until we see confirmation, who knows?[/quote]

:( I really didnt wanne, I honestly didnt.
But this is the interwebs. Cant trust anything beyond your router.


GOD LORD. I really cant believe that people still resort to babelfish. Your cat would produce a better translation Im sure.
Nothing against you KK!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910224.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910224.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910226.page GMT
Trot out the infamous "Pics, or it didn't happen!" line!!!

And you're right - until we see confirmation, who knows?[/quote]

:( I really didnt wanne, I honestly didnt.
But this is the interwebs. Cant trust anything beyond your router.


GOD LORD. I really cant believe that people still resort to babelfish. Your cat would produce a better translation Im sure.
Nothing against you KK!![/quote]

Actually I used to be pretty good at German but without a dictionary I can't understand all the words.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910230.page GMT GW to lose themselves money.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910241.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910241.page GMT The babelfish translations just arent worth crap. It`s horrible.

Okay, maybe to get a sense of whats going on, but even that is borderline Anyways.

BTT]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910242.page GMT Its space Hulk! taking bets now! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910243.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910243.page GMT
And he's correct as well.

cardboard tiles old school goodness agogo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910244.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910246.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910246.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910250.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910252.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910253.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910253.page GMT the size of the box probably have something to do with the game board its going to be played on.
( so something large yet not able to be easily folded? )
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910254.page GMT 40k universe swimsuit calender, January is Calgar in a thong.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910260.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910260.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910265.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910265.page GMT
You mean like they used to be, before the 'starter sets' got smaller?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910268.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910268.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910275.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910300.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910306.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910307.page GMT
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[quote]
Die Mystery Box wurde auf dem Games Day nicht enthüllt, dafür aber durch die Blume verraten um was es sich handelt.

Das Cover und das Games Day T-Shirt verrät es. Während die Mitarbeiter mit dem oben abgebildeten Motiv des Terminator Helms herum liefen, war das für Kunden mit einem Tyranidenschädel versehen.

Man darf also für morgen Space Hulk erwarten. Die große “Enthüllung” fand auf dem Games Day leider nicht statt, da hier seitens UK ein Riegel vorgeschoben wurde und die Ankündigung via Newsletter (der für heute Abend / Nacht erwartet wird) passieren wird.

Preis der Box soll bei knapp 80 EUR liegen, die Gesamtauflage bei 5.000 Stück. Es handelt sich dabei um die deutsche Version die auch an die Einzelhändler mit maximal 15 Exemplaren pro Lokal verkauft wird.

Auf dem Games Day soll ein Trailer gezeigt werden, dieser wird für 16.00 Uhr erwartet. Wir reichen die Details entsprechend nach.[/quote]

Translation:
- Mystery box hasn't been revealed yet
- announcement tonight via newsletter
- it's to 99% Space Hulk
- price: 80€
- only 5000 German versions, 15 per store
- there will be a trailer about the box at 16.00 (04.00pm)

~ Mad]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/250574/910425.page GMT IMO.




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