http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/6.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net JAN 2010
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Warmachine MKII

* PIP 1021 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Soft Cover – $29.99
* PIP 1022 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Limited Edition Hard Cover – $44.99
* PIP 31062 Cygnar Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 31071 Cygnar Warcaster Commander Adept Nemo – 2010 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 32061 Protectorate Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 32065 Protectorate Warcaster Feora, Priestess of the Flame – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 32069 Protectorate Warcaster The High Reclaimer – 2010 (1 Model) – $14.99
* PIP 33063 Khador Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 33065 Khador Warcaster Kommandant Irusk – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 33072 Khador Warcaster The Butcher of Khardov – 2010 (1 Model) – $16.99
* PIP 34066 Cryx Helljack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 34068 Cryx Warcaster Pirate Queen Skarre – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 35029 Retribution Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $15.99
* PIP 35030 Retribution Houseguard Rifleman Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $14.99














[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Corrupter_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cryx/warjacks/corruptor

[quote]
This box set contains three color stat cards and one multi-part heavy warjack plastic model. Included are all the components to assemble one of three heavy warjack variants: Corruptor, Reaper, or Slayer. A player may field any number of heavy warjacks in a Cryx army.
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[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Templar_09_CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/the-protectorate-of-menoth/warjacks/templar

[quote]
This box set contains three color stat cards and one multi-part heavy warjack plastic model. Included are all the components to assemble one of three heavy warjack variants: Crusader, Templar, or Vanquisher. A player may field any number of heavy warjacks in a Protectorate army.[/quote]




[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Decimator_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/decimator

[quote]This box set contains four color stat cards and one multi-part heavy warjack plastic model. Included are all the components to assemble one of four heavy warjack variants: Decimator, Destroyer, Juggernaut, or Marauder. A player may field any number of heavy warjacks in a Khador army.[/quote]


Which they can... haha.


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KHADOR MARAUDER:

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Marauder_09_CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/marauder


KHADOR Destroyer:

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Destroyer_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/destroyer



KHADOR Juggernaught:

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Juggernaut_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/juggernaut








[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Cyclone_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cygnar/warjacks/cyclone


[quote]This box set contains three color stat cards and one multi-part heavy warjack plastic model (PIP 31062). Included are all the components to assemble one of three heavy warjack variants: Cyclone, Defender, or Ironclad. A player may field any number of heavy warjacks in a Cygnar army.[/quote]



CRYX REAPER

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Reaper_09.png[/img]

CRYX SLAYER
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Slayer_09.png[/img]

MENOTH VANQUISHER
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Vanquisher_09.png[/img]


MENOTH CRUSADER
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Crusader_09.png[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059803.page GMT I wonder how fast the arms will snap off for Cryx and Khador...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059810.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059816.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059822.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059825.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059830.page GMT

Jokes aside, I'm digging the plastic kit with multiple jack options, it's about time!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059841.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059841.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059856.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059856.page GMT
In other words. Woot!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059858.page GMT GW armies ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059872.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059872.page GMT
My orks would thank me for bringing home some of those cutter arms from the Red one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059893.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059893.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059907.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059907.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059922.page GMT
Each set make 1 new Warjack, and any previous 'Jacks that shared the same chassis(2 types for most, but 3 for the Khador one).

I'm not partial to the Corruptor, but Plastic Slayers FTW. Also, I want to magnetize the arms for a Cryx team for Grind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1059949.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060047.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060047.page GMT I wonder how fast the arms will snap off for Cryx and Khador...[/quote]

5.6 seconds *snap* er.... 5.2 seconds. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060063.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060094.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060094.page GMT lol
I remember talking directly to a few of the PP guys right when WarMachine came out and they were all high on their product and covertly bashing GW. We are never going to have to change our rules and NEVER make any thing in PLASTIC! ****snicker****

The stuff looks pretty good all and all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060113.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060113.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060131.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060178.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060202.page GMT

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Warmachine MKII

* PIP 1021 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Soft Cover – $29.99
* PIP 1022 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Limited Edition Hard Cover – $44.99
* PIP 31062 Cygnar Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 31071 Cygnar Warcaster Commander Adept Nemo – 2010 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 32061 Protectorate Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 32065 Protectorate Warcaster Feora, Priestess of the Flame – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 32069 Protectorate Warcaster The High Reclaimer – 2010 (1 Model) – $14.99
* PIP 33063 Khador Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 33065 Khador Warcaster Kommandant Irusk – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 33072 Khador Warcaster The Butcher of Khardov – 2010 (1 Model) – $16.99
* PIP 34066 Cryx Helljack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
* PIP 34068 Cryx Warcaster Pirate Queen Skarre – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99
* PIP 35029 Retribution Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $15.99
* PIP 35030 Retribution Houseguard Rifleman Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $14.99
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060260.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060260.page GMT
My orks would thank me for bringing home some of those cutter arms from the Red one.[/quote]

AMEN to that. The first thing I thought of was what I could to for some Killa Kans with those bits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060266.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060266.page GMT
* PIP 1021 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Soft Cover – $29.99
* PIP 1022 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Limited Edition Hard Cover – $44.99
* PIP 31062 Cygnar Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b]* PIP 31071 Cygnar Warcaster Commander Adept Nemo – 2010 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
* PIP 32061 Protectorate Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b] * PIP 32065 Protectorate Warcaster Feora, Priestess of the Flame – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
[b]* PIP 32069 Protectorate Warcaster The High Reclaimer – 2010 (1 Model) – $14.99[/b]
* PIP 33063 Khador Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b]* PIP 33065 Khador Warcaster Kommandant Irusk – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
[b]* PIP 33072 Khador Warcaster The Butcher of Khardov – 2010 (1 Model) – $16.99[/b]
* PIP 34066 Cryx Helljack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b]* PIP 34068 Cryx Warcaster Pirate Queen Skarre – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
* PIP 35029 Retribution Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $15.99
* PIP 35030 Retribution Houseguard Rifleman Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $14.99[/quote]
Is that a bunch of Warcaster resculpts I see before me? I wonder if the '2009' tag indicates a December release.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060274.page GMT


DOH. They better be dope. But I like my butcher and irusk as is... oh well, time for doubles lol.



[img]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/InvaderZahn/K.png[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060278.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060291.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060291.page GMT
* PIP 1021 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Soft Cover – $29.99
* PIP 1022 WARMACHINE: Prime MKII Limited Edition Hard Cover – $44.99
* PIP 31062 Cygnar Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b]* PIP 31071 Cygnar Warcaster Commander Adept Nemo – 2010 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
* PIP 32061 Protectorate Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b] * PIP 32065 Protectorate Warcaster Feora, Priestess of the Flame – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
[b]* PIP 32069 Protectorate Warcaster The High Reclaimer – 2010 (1 Model) – $14.99[/b]
* PIP 33063 Khador Heavy Warjack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b]* PIP 33065 Khador Warcaster Kommandant Irusk – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
[b]* PIP 33072 Khador Warcaster The Butcher of Khardov – 2010 (1 Model) – $16.99[/b]
* PIP 34066 Cryx Helljack Plastic Kit (1 Model) – TBD
[b]* PIP 34068 Cryx Warcaster Pirate Queen Skarre – 2009 (1 Model) – $11.99[/b]
* PIP 35029 Retribution Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $15.99
* PIP 35030 Retribution Houseguard Rifleman Officer & Standard Bearer Unit Attachment (2 Models) – $14.99[/quote]
Is that a bunch of Warcaster resculpts I see before me? I wonder if the '2009' tag indicates a December release.[/quote]

Not listed there, but on Malefic.jp, Lt. Allister Caine - 2009. I'd also wager we'll see an Iron Liche Asphyxious - 2010 on a later list for Cryx's second re-sculpt.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060422.page GMT
I was gonna pick up the metal khador starter this or next week, then I saw this now I wanna wait for the plastics instead.. so will I have to just buy 2 of them plus a caster, or are they gonna redo the starters with the plastics too?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060459.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060483.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060483.page GMT
And I'm pretty happy as it is. Imagine how much happier I'll be then!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060505.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060506.page GMT
Sucks. I am gonna need 2 of the Cryx. I need another Slayer, and I kinda like the new one.

I can see mix/match with the GRIND arms for a Cryx/Menoth team.

And about time for a Skarre resculpt. The old one looks like a Gary Morley elf.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060511.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060531.page GMT
Oh my...Oh My...

They look even worse.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060535.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060535.page GMT
Then again, I think most privateer press stuff looks like blobby, misshapen crap.


[i]edit: please do not use obvious swearing work-arounds. Either let the swear-filter disguise your swear words, or disguise them more thoroughly yourself. --yakface[/i]

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What this also means is that many of the future new jack releases will have multiple variants in the box.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060578.page GMT
Then again, I think most privateer press stuff looks like blobby, misshapen crap. [/quote]

No, you're not. It's like anything else. If you didn't like the design of the game to begin
with, I don't think these plastic models or anything else they do will make you happy.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060583.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060623.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060623.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060803.page GMT
Yes you can run jack heavy with mk2. Depending on the caster of course, but for most casters you could run solid lists with 2 heavies and with the penalties for trampling over infantry removed or reduced and with jack made more durable it is advisable to run at least one heavy in list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060835.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060869.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060869.page GMT
Mercs get nothing because that would mean designing at least 2 new heavy 'Jacks to make the kit worth it, because no Merc 'Jacks share Chassis like there is within the core 4.

And personally, I prefer my Mercs like that. Makes us less rigidly military and more "what we can get for our money".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060902.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060902.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060950.page GMT WM plays. Maybe I'll like Mk.2 though, who knows.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1060996.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061009.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061021.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061021.page GMT PP is taking with the Mk 2 ruleset....not impressed with the changes at all. All of the players at my FLGS are either doing the same or sticking with MK 1 Warmachine/Hordes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061024.page GMT Well maybe because every faction got a new jack?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061027.page GMT
How about a second caster for me? Or have Mags invent time travel so both his regular and epic versions can be in one game.

I'm just sayin' think about it, PP.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061029.page GMT
*Snicker*]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061036.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061038.page GMT
Mercs get nothing because that would mean designing at least 2 new heavy 'Jacks to make the kit worth it, because no Merc 'Jacks share Chassis like there is within the core 4.

And personally, I prefer my Mercs like that. Makes us less rigidly military and more "what we can get for our money".[/quote]
Mercs are getting the Ghordson Basher in December which is rumoured to be a three in one kit that can also be used to build a Ghordson Driller or Wroughthammer Rockram.

Looking to the future Mercenaries have the Nomad/Mule and Freebooter/Mariner that share chassis and are therefore possible candidates to go plastic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061089.page GMT No, you're not. It's like anything else. If you didn't like the design of the game to begin
with, I don't think these plastic models or anything else they do will make you happy.
[/quote]

I don't like the designs myself, actually, which is kind of sad as I like PP's general philosophy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061185.page GMT Mercs are getting the Ghordson Basher in December which is rumoured to be a three in one kit that can also be used to build a Ghordson Driller or Wroughthammer Rockram.

Looking to the future Mercenaries have the Nomad/Mule and Freebooter/Mariner that share chassis and are therefore possible candidates to go plastic.[/quote]
There is that, yes. From what I've heard, the Basher will be a metal kit, so maybe Mercs simply lack the sales to go plastic. Only time will tell, I guess. I would've liked a warcaster resculpt, though. I dig the machine gun Cygnar jack, definitely. It looks like a supersized Sentinel.

[quote=Steelmage99]"Full metal mayhem" and "Only kids play with plastics"

*Snicker*[/quote]
I respect a company that's willing to change and overhaul even its own holy writ when sensible far more than one that's tied up to an ideological statement. Especially if said statement was as silly as the ones you're quoting. Plastic models for Warmachine makes sense, simple as that. If that means eschewing from a particular marketing schtick, so be it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061660.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061660.page GMT
*cough*

Just went up on their twitter feed today, along with

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/products/Halberdiers_CLPD.png[/img]

3D previews available also]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061789.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061789.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1061842.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062027.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062044.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062044.page GMT
It's "Lieutenant Caine". As in, regular ol' vanilla Caine

or at least that's what I'm understanding from the feed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062085.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062085.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062088.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062088.page GMT
It's "Lieutenant Caine". As in, regular ol' vanilla Caine

or at least that's what I'm understanding from the feed.[/quote]

Yeah that's pCaine. eCaine doesn't have a sword and is a Captain.

[quote=Red_Lives]Has noone else noticed that that is a NEW never before seen kind of Khador Jack? How is "COOL NEW KHADOR JACK!" not news?[/quote]

Because we saw the concept art for all four of these at Gencon. First time we've seen the models yeah, but the news has been out there since August. Excited about the concept of the Cyclone, leary about the actual stats. Chainguns have not worked well for the swan in the past, and none of our stuff with it in MK2 is all that remotely useful. Ah well, still probably gonna buy two to make some defenders. Might take the chain guns and kit bash em to make some big shoota's for my battlewagon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062165.page GMT [img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/cygnar/warcasters/allister-caine.png[/img]


vs


[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Caine_09-CLPD.png[/img]


He is much nicer i'd ay
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The halberdiers look as good as the art I saw.

Now where are the rest of the new minis?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062426.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062500.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062500.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062929.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1062929.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063042.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063042.page GMT

Could add gas mask and add to my lovely DKOK.


Nice idea


+1]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063056.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063060.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063248.page GMT
Don't forget that Fennblades and Warspears are plastic, too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063253.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063253.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063286.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063286.page GMT The whole "all metal" was nice for marketing, but it just makes so much more sense that way. How often did you think "damn, I wish I had the rules and models for another Jack in this game".

I really like the new models. Double gatling guns are always cool and the giant revolver on the Khador Jack is hilarious .
Dig the new cain too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063445.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063445.page GMT
(do chainguns still have strafe in mk2? IDK... not a cygnar player)


Could be devastating. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1063449.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065455.page GMT
WHere'd you get the price at?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065477.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065477.page GMT PP is *raising* the price of plastic by 25% over existing metal.

You'd think they're GW or something!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065501.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065501.page GMT PP is *raising* the price of plastic by 25% over existing metal.

You'd think they're GW or something![/quote]
It's like I've always said. The problem isn't with GW pricing, it's with miniatures wargaming being an obscenely expensive fringe hobby and people just needing to accept this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065562.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065562.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065567.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065567.page GMT
WHere'd you get the price at?[/quote]

Where in Washington are you?

I'm in Seattle ;P we should game.




I got the prices straight from a pre-order wholesalers list, i also talk to the PP Director occasionally about stuff to advance order.


Not to also mention PPress is in Bellevue ;P I game at G3 in Redmond at times, and PP people always go there.


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[quote=JohnHwangDD]Nice. PP is *raising* the price of plastic by 25% over existing metal.

You'd think they're GW or something![/quote]


Hmm... 5$ increase from a 30$ heavy warjack (khador).

But with multiple/more parts, and larger model - give or take?

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Given the number of people taking about magnetizing the kits I'm thinking a 15% mark up is not bad at all.

I know I'll be getting a couple of each in the long run. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1065864.page GMT
Given the number of people taking about magnetizing the kits I'm thinking a 15% mark up is not bad at all.

I know I'll be getting a couple of each in the long run. [/quote]

WM players are just the best. If GW released a kit and raised the price teh internets would crash with all the rage. dear god, When GW released the plastic dreadnought with all weapon options and the price was only a couple of $$ cheaper than the metal and the bitchin' went on and on and on. If GW released a plastic model that was more expensive than the metal I believe the earth would actually stop spinning.

This is just a total crock and WM pricing etc is worse than GW but then again WM fanbois make GW fanbois look like jaded veterans in comparison.

Not bad at all - crock of sh...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066098.page GMT WM pricing etc is worse than GW but then again WM fanbois make GW fanbois look like jaded veterans in comparison.[/quote]
GW fans don't need anyone's help to come across as idiots. They can accomplish that feat all by themselves. Just look upwards in this thread, and indeed all around us on this forum. QED.

I mean, really, with the community being as it is, is it any wonder that people are biased against 40k and GW? Attitudes on both sides, driven by half-wit demagoguery very much like yours, knowingly perpetuate the problem because it's oh so fashionable to form little nerd cliques and go to "war" on people whose little toy soldiers are manufactured on a different assembly line.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066115.page GMT
Oh christ, it's that same plastic the Starship Troopers models used, isn't it?

EURGH. I HATE that crap. It requires so much more work and doesn't accept primer as readily as any other models I've worked on, from Tamiya to GW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066148.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066148.page GMT WM pricing etc is worse than GW but then again WM fanbois make GW fanbois look like jaded veterans in comparison.[/quote]
GW fans don't need anyone's help to come across as idiots. They can accomplish that feat all by themselves. Just look upwards in this thread, and indeed all around us on this forum. QED.

I mean, really, with the community being as it is, is it any wonder that people are biased against 40k and GW? Attitudes on both sides, driven by half-wit demagoguery very much like yours, knowingly perpetuate the problem because it's oh so fashionable to form little nerd cliques and go to "war" on people whose little toy soldiers are manufactured on a different assembly line.[/quote]

{sigh} yet another "witty" response from the most jaded poster on Dakka - what a surprise.

Way to go to miss the main point I was making, i.e raising prices moving from plastic to metal by the company that presents itselfs as the anti-GW. Got nothing to do with little cliques or going to war - it is pure WM hypocrisy.

Now stop being so pompous.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066151.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066151.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066153.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066153.page GMT
True, but even with that taken into account it is still a nice looking weapon - now if only the legs were bigger I would be interested in painting one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066159.page GMT GW taking the religion-route.

"Ours is the one true game and anyone who plays a different game is a heretic!".

GW is positive hindu/buddistic (is that a word?) compared to PP.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066201.page GMT GW. Got nothing to do with little cliques or going to war - it is pure WM hypocrisy. [/quote]
All companies are alike, that much is true. But it wasn't Privateer Press who made themselves somehow the antithesis of all things rotten in the industry. They've become "the anti-GW" by power of wishful thinking on the part of the sad rubes who think that there's some kind of fairness in the world. Poor, deluded fanboys who want to believe a fairy tale. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

Privateer has never made a promise not to raise prices, or claimed plastic models would be cheaper. And even if they had, can a company even be meaningfully guilty of hypochrisy?

[quote=Steelmage99]I can't remember GW taking the religion-route.

"Ours is the one true game and anyone who plays a different game is a heretic!".[/quote]
And I suppose you're telling me this is somehow an accurate paraphrasing of Privateer Press's viewpoint?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066232.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066232.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066386.page GMT
WM is cheaper being metal?

Just saying.

Plastic, fact it comes with all those kits in one = awesome.

only 5$ differential - no biggie imo - we spend much more for other things.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066540.page GMT GW, just saying they're too expensive to justify a purchase for me right now.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066556.page GMT
The last thing we need is for PP to show GW that drooling fanbois will gladly pay 25% *MORE* for plastic over metal.

You would think that the rage over non-discounted plastics (i.e. Termies, Greatswords) would have set some kind of precedent or mindshare.

But if GW sees that they can charge *more* for cheaper plastic, because that's what the market will bear, God help us all!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066564.page GMT
either, dont get me wrong too.


I think they can all go to heck.


Thats true John, never thought of it that way. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066576.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066576.page GMT jp/find/PP1001N]Malefic[/url]. No confirmation of the $35 Warjack prices but the rulebook and the card decks have prices in Yen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066595.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066595.page GMT
give me 5 mins.


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PIP 91050 WARMACHINE Mk II 2010 Mercenaries Deck ~ JAN PreOrder $18.99 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066600.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066656.page GMT GW taking the religion-route.

"Ours is the one true game and anyone who plays a different game is a heretic!".

GW is positive hindu/buddistic (is that a word?) compared to PP.[/quote]
Really? I'm pretty sure I heard exactly that kind of stuff from GW at some point. There was that story about the Redshirt who refused to acknoledge the existence of non-GW tabletop games and they only accept models which are 100% GW if you want to play in their stores.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066705.page GMT GW describe their games as The Hobby, instead of acknowledging their place amongst other wargames.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066714.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066736.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1066796.page GMT
Interesting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067105.page GMT There's barely any detail and the width of that circular saw is ridiculous.

Also, the Menoth figure looks weird in that static pose with a swinging mace. I suppose with it being plastic that shouldn't be too much of an issue.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067132.page GMT
Oh christ, it's that same plastic the Starship Troopers models used, isn't it?

EURGH. I HATE that crap. It requires so much more work and doesn't accept primer as readily as any other models I've worked on, from Tamiya to GW.[/quote]

The models I've painted so far have taken primer okay... Mayb eI'm doing it wrong?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067387.page GMT There's barely any detail and the width of that circular saw is ridiculous.[/quote]

Because the saws on GW models are sooo much more realistic.

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Decimator_09-CLPD.png[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/thumb/8/89/Ork_Dreadnought_1.png/250px-Ork_Dreadnought_1.png[/img]
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067546.page GMT There's barely any detail and the width of that circular saw is ridiculous.[/quote]

Because the saws on GW models are sooo much more realistic.
[/quote]

Yeah, it's not as big as the torso.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067596.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067816.page GMT There's barely any detail and the width of that circular saw is ridiculous.[/quote]

Because the saws on GW models are sooo much more realistic.

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Decimator_09-CLPD.png[/img][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/thumb/8/89/Ork_Dreadnought_1.png/250px-Ork_Dreadnought_1.png[/img]
[/quote]
Actually you've chosen a terrible example. The Deff Dread saws are far thinner but it's metal anyway.
Compare it to this instead:
[img]http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3994/screenshot20091025at141.png[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067910.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1067910.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068025.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068025.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068107.page GMT

Juggs and such.

HUGGEEE fist and axe? And big boom cannon?

haha.

Man just pointing that out ... makes me take a 2nd look at the khador jack... it is odd.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068133.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068133.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068139.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068220.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068220.page GMT
Oh christ, it's that same plastic the Starship Troopers models used, isn't it?

EURGH. I HATE that crap. It requires so much more work and doesn't accept primer as readily as any other models I've worked on, from Tamiya to GW.[/quote]

The models I've painted so far have taken primer okay... Maybe I'm doing it wrong?[/quote]

Or maybe it's just the same plastic as GW. I dunno. Not really willing to drop money just to experiment and get that godforsaken plastic.

I swear, it's like kryptonite for me. Kryptonite that results in hours of swearing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068240.page GMT
How do space marine dreadnoughts stand up?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068362.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068362.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068476.page GMT How do space marine dreadnoughts stand up?[/quote]
They have big, articulated feet.

I'm OK with Dreads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068591.page GMT SM dreads [i]walk[/i]...

The models are cool, but I imagine they have to waddle everywhere. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068608.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068608.page GMT SM dreads [i]walk[/i]...

The models are cool, but I imagine they have to waddle everywhere. [/quote]


play dawn of war and see! haha]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068612.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068612.page GMT Or maybe it's just the same plastic as GW. I dunno. Not really willing to drop money just to experiment and get that godforsaken plastic.

I swear, it's like kryptonite for me. Kryptonite that results in hours of swearing.[/quote]
That would be [color=red]red Kryptonite[/color] then, if I'm not mistaken. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068614.page GMT How do space marine dreadnoughts stand up?[/quote]
They have big, articulated feet.

I'm OK with Dreads.[/quote]

And ankles smaller than the marines they serve with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068623.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068623.page GMT SM dreads [i]walk[/i]... [/quote]
If you've seen the CG animations, far better than one might otherwise expect...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068625.page GMT
Oh christ, it's that same plastic the Starship Troopers models used, isn't it?

EURGH. I HATE that crap. It requires so much more work and doesn't accept primer as readily as any other models I've worked on, from Tamiya to GW.[/quote]

The models I've painted so far have taken primer okay... Maybe I'm doing it wrong?[/quote]

Or maybe it's just the same plastic as GW. I dunno. Not really willing to drop money just to experiment and get that godforsaken plastic.

I swear, it's like kryptonite for me. Kryptonite that results in hours of swearing.[/quote]

It's not the same as GW plastic as you can't use the plastic polystyrene glue on it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068632.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068683.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1068683.page GMT
I am willing to bet it isn't cast with steel molds. You can't get the details these show that way.

So it has great detail, a little flexibility, and you need to use superglue.

The price is acceptable due to the bonus parts given.
They price it where they do expecting players to magnetize. but you still may want 2-3 bodies.

I am waiting for the pricing on man-sized plastic units.
The 10-man Fennblades, approx. Termie size, are $50. *subject to change it says on their site.
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I dont think I've seen this much .. talk of the talk about PP rumour before haha.

So has PP done something good?!

Purely subjective to each and everyone's own oppinion.


I just perosnally thing its something cool overall!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069583.page GMT
To be fair the thickness of the saw doesnt make it less realistic or less detailed.

Sure its not a jewelry saw , but thats not what it is ,
compare it with those giant tree saws .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069592.page GMT GW, whom they hate so much.

It's their own fault, though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069596.page GMT GW, whom they hate so much.

It's their own fault, though.[/quote]

Being rather regular on their forums, I haven't seen any pissyness really. Most people there are eagerly anticipating these plastics. It's not like PP didn't tell us well ahead of time when they originally announced the Exemplar Bastions. There isn't the all consuming hate for plastics and GW that PP Haters think there is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069966.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1069966.page GMT forums for the most part waits for every new post or scrap of information.

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To be fair the thickness of the saw doesnt make it less realistic or less detailed.

Sure its not a jewelry saw , but thats not what it is ,
compare it with those giant tree saws .[/quote]

You've never seen a saw before have you? Thats a digging instrument, not a cutting one.

[img]http://www.wandfluh-us.com/images/Tree%20Cutter.png[/img]

It looks nothing like any scale of tree cutter.

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2355/2261905391_9e622d172d.jpg[/img]

It does look a lot like a bucket wheel though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070425.page GMT GW, whom they hate so much.

It's their own fault, though.[/quote]

It's not the switch to plastic, which I find hypocritical on Privateer Press's part after reading page 5 of the Prime rulebook, that drove me away from Warmachine. It's the switch from the MK1 ruleset to the craptastic MK2 ruleset that did it. And I'm not the only one. At my FLGS, everyone who plays Warmachine/Hordes is either getting out of the game completely or is sticking with the MK1 ruleset because of the MK2 rules.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070427.page GMT FLGS, everyone who plays Warmachine/Hordes is either getting out of the game completely or is sticking with the MK1 ruleset because of the MK2 rules.[/quote]
That's an interesting thing. What motivated your ire? To me, the rulesets look more identical than any two consecutive editions of 40k. (I'm assuming here your beef is with the rules and not the unit cards, which changed rather more drastically).

Frankly, if the choice is between upholding "page 5" and doing something that makes sense like plastic miniatures do, I'm all for abolishing page 5. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070484.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070511.page GMT You've never seen a saw before have you? [/quote]
O RLY? [img]http://autoaddictionz.com/images/Sawmill/Sawmill.jpg[/img]

Or perhaps...

[img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41GGD0QrEgL._SL500_AA280_.jpg[/img]

Nah, totally not like a circular wood saw...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070557.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070557.page GMT Lol, I'm not quite sure how MK 2 sucks.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070611.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070611.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070647.page GMT [img]http://www.wandfluh-us.com/images/Tree%20Cutter.png[/img]
[/quote]a bit off topic but why is that robot humping that tree?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070678.page GMT
In any case, I suppose that the "saw" is either intended to be an instrument of intense mangling, or simply suffering from Warmachine "even our swords are blunt instruments" syndrome.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070702.page GMT You've never seen a saw before have you? [/quote]
O RLY? [img]http://autoaddictionz.com/images/Sawmill/Sawmill.jpg[/img]

Or perhaps...

[img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41GGD0QrEgL._SL500_AA280_.jpg[/img]

Nah, totally not like a circular wood saw...[/quote]

That saw isn't a foot wide like the khador model. It's not the diameter, it's the width of the blade that makes it unable to cut. And that blade would be totally unable to cut.

[quote]a bit off topic but why is that robot humping that tree?[/quote]

Find a video of one in action. It's not humping that tree, it's murdering it. Really really badly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070895.page GMT PP designing plastic like they design metal.

Yes, it could (and should) be narrower in plastic. GW proved thin plastic was possible with the original DE models a decade ago.

Better yet, it should be cross-beveled for self-cleaning, but that's RL trying to intrude.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1070984.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1071120.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1071120.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1071187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1071187.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1072747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1072747.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1073286.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1073286.page GMT
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Reaper_09.png[/img]

CRYX SLAYER
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Slayer_09.png[/img]

MENOTH VANQUISHER
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Vanquisher_09.png[/img]


MENOTH CRUSADER
[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Crusader_09.png[/img]



What a tease.


I'm DIGGING THE VANQUIHSER.,]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074099.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074099.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074108.page GMT PP, you've just sold me at least 2 of these bad boys.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074111.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074797.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074797.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074889.page GMT

Totally agree PP done it good with these ones

- wont look as crappy as 40k editions do from each other hah.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1074950.page GMT
are there other plastics rumored/confirmed yet too? or just the one big multipart set per army?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1075335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1075335.page GMT

As far as other plastics, nothing is announced about that yet~]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1075699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1075699.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1075981.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1075981.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076114.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076114.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076536.page GMT

WM Faction books are estimated to be 35$ MSRP Each.

Seen in an PP poll on their website:


[quote]When the new WARMACHINE Force Books come out, (Estimated MSRP $35.00), do you expect to purchase:[/quote]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076759.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076768.page GMT 40k and Warmachine? They're both heinously expensive, why doesn't that suffice?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076781.page GMT GW deciding the market will bear another $10 per Codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076785.page GMT PP have switched to the GW model for releases. It's doomed to piss me off at some ppint. The old release method was one of my favourite things about them.
Those faction books would want to be amazing to justify that price.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076796.page GMT ca. $33 for Codexes, this will be no different. Except less Arbitrary Cruddace.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076801.page GMT GW follows the PP price increase. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076807.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076807.page GMT GW. but still nothing to get pissed about its a hobby its not going to kill unless your a major fan boy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076820.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076820.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076823.page GMT
Its kind of bugging me that the price for the faction books ARE 35$....

and it makes codex's look inexspensive suprisingly.


Though, PP books tend to be super filled with all color pages, and fluff.

But the only reason that would make them worth it if they have new unreleased stats... some special army lsit composition..

Meh... hah.


[quote]I'm so unhappy that PP have switched to the GW model for releases. It's doomed to piss me off at some ppint. The old release method was one of my favourite things about them.
Those faction books would want to be amazing to justify that price. [/quote]


What I am really wondering is if the new rulebooks create a standard 'CORE' for each faction.

The the introduction of more MK2 exspansions = exspansions as they always do.


This does mean you'll be buying lots of books ;P lol. Smart...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076826.page GMT GW Codex. Anyone know the page counts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076864.page GMT Tbh I don't find the fluff that compelling even compared to GW's efforts, so paying more for more weak fluff does not appeal to me. What I liked about the old method was there was no chance of a DE style limbo occuring. Now I feel like it's just a matter of time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076875.page GMT PP book has had TONS of pages, everything pure color.

So we can only expect the same quality for each.... otherwise that cost is just disgusting if not.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076877.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076877.page GMT Da Boss]Tbh I don't find the fluff that compelling even compared to GW's efforts, so paying more for more weak fluff does not appeal to me. What I liked about the old method was there was no chance of a DE style limbo occuring. Now I feel like it's just a matter of time.[/quote]
The new faction books are just a compilation of the previous five years plus a few new releases to tide them over. It's back to the old four (five) factions in one book after that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076888.page GMT You're 100% on that?
That's great news!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076895.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076901.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076901.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076914.page GMT Inferior plastic to GW
Worse new plastic models than old metal WM models
$10 more expensive army books
???
Profit!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076924.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076924.page GMT Da Boss: I can't find the thread but I'm sure I remember Matt Wilson saying as much. Anyone's search-fu better then mine?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076942.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076942.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1076956.page GMT
In terms of plastic, I think they are better than the current metals.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077311.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077311.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077433.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077433.page GMT GW Codex. Anyone know the page counts?[/quote]

I can't say for sure, but the Retribution of Scyrah faction book is 116 very nice, full color pages.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077628.page GMT Inferior plastic to GW
Worse new plastic models than old metal WM models
$10 more expensive army books
???
Profit![/quote]
Well, there's a lot of things that could go in that gap you've left. One of them is a combo-driven gameplay that's reasonably unlike 40k's. Another is a ruleset that's perceived as being more robust and a publisher that's perceived as being actively interested fixing it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077638.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077638.page GMT Retribution have about half as many entries as every other faction, 28 vs. 47 for Cryx (not including any new releases in the faction book). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1077990.page GMT The softcover MkI rulebook is only $25. Over 250 pages.
The Forces of Warmachine Pirates book was thinner, about 64 pages, but it was $22 softcover.

The Scyrah book was $35 for softcover also, but that was equal to an expansion book to my mind.
It was a new faction and they were unsure of its sales.
I am not sure how many pages it was, but it was a lot of new rules.

Unless they feel the price accounts for the loss of sales due to faction split?

I won't be buying the faction books right away, and maybe not ever. Price is not really a factor.
They just seem unnecessary to gameplay.
I will eventually get the mkII rulebook, but I will have to pick up the card decks.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078108.page GMT The softcover MkI rulebook is only $25. Over 250 pages.
The Forces of Warmachine Pirates book was thinner, about 64 pages, but it was $22 softcover.

The Scyrah book was $35 for softcover also, but that was equal to an expansion book to my mind.
It was a new faction and they were unsure of its sales.
I am not sure how many pages it was, but it was a lot of new rules.

Unless they feel the price accounts for the loss of sales due to faction split?

I won't be buying the faction books right away, and maybe not ever. Price is not really a factor.
They just seem unnecessary to gameplay.
I will eventually get the mkII rulebook, but I will have to pick up the card decks.

[/quote]

Probably they don't expect everyone to buy every faction, as you say.

Also: main rulebooks might also be loss leaders.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078373.page GMT
But at $35 a book, I definitely wouldn't buy them all.
At $25, with the online prices you can find, it is a digestable sum. probably about $75.
Same discount comes to about $105 w/ given cost.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078387.page GMT
But at $35 a book, I definitely wouldn't buy them all.
At $25, with the online prices you can find, it is a digestable sum. probably about $75.
Same discount comes to about $105 w/ given cost.[/quote]

The same could be argued for both GW and PP's mini prices.

"If it was cheaper, I'd buy more!"

But a luxury item doesn't necessarily want to be sold on the cheap. Luxury and
brands are not just about quality, but also the perception of that quality.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078397.page GMT
But I do agree with what John said earlier.

If PP does well with $35 army books, GW may think they can do it too. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078414.page GMT

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KHADOR MARAUDER:

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Marauder_09_CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/marauder


KHADOR Destroyer:

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Destroyer_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/destroyer



KHADOR Juggernaught:

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Juggernaut_09-CLPD.png[/img]

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks/juggernaut]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078452.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078452.page GMT
Yeah, I think it is fairly safe to say the other faction books will be bigger. The Retribution book, being a new faction, may have a bit more background than the others will though. Regardless, 116 pages is probably the minimum page count we can expect from the faction books.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078524.page GMT PP studio.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078721.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078721.page GMT PP studio.[/quote]

They are close in design, but they seem to be a bit more mis proportioned than the originals. The heads are all smaller, and while the arms have a better range of motion the joints and little metal "bones" connecting them seem to be even smaller. This could all bear out when they are in the hands though. It's hard to tell without only a single perspective photo. I do like the percieved better range of motion and functionality though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078889.page GMT
I'm only half tempted to buy the cygnar book, what will push me is if the new warcaster (which all of the four original main factions are getting) is interesting enough to check out the backstory on. I tend to like privateer's fluff better then GW's (matter of opinion though) as its more character driven, and not just "Heres the history of the army with a few cool side stories."


And for those wondering size comparison, here is one of the Original Metal Juggernaught, the new plastic Juggy and the extreme Jug.

[img]http://www.b-field.de/personal/jugger.jpg[/img]

Shamelessly lifted from Grey Knights post on the privateer forums.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078908.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078951.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1078951.page GMT WM is going to be doing army books / codexes just like GW? i thought their books were always like expansions?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079104.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079115.page GMT WM is going to be doing army books / codexes just like GW? i thought their books were always like expansions?[/quote]


only for the release of MKII, after MKII is full out they said they will be going back to the all factions in a single book expansion model, there reasoning was a 600 page main rule book might be a little expensive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079137.page GMT GW where all the rules need to be in the army book, when all the rules are on the cards...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079155.page GMT
There is only one extreme warjack out, and that's the Juggernaut.

The extreme sculpts are highly exaggerated versions of a regular model that
Privateer Press sells on their website.

Extreme sculpts to date:

Extreme Dire Troll Mauler
Extreme Warpwolf
Extreme Juggernaut

They usable in game, but they're often top heavy and expensive (dollars wise).


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[quote=Necros]oh.. are all the army books coming out at once? or over time? I guess it's not like GW where all the rules need to be in the army book, when all the rules are on the cards...[/quote]

Over the course of five months, you'll see:

WARMACHINE

* Cygnar
* Khador
* Protectorate of Menoth
* Cryx
* Mercenaries

I believe the rulebooks start releasing in March?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079158.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079158.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1079556.page GMT Cygnar Defender

[img]http://privateerpress.com/files/imagecache/1up/products/Defender_09-CLPD.png[/img]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1081059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1081059.page GMT PP will go back to expansion model they have been following with a new book with stuff for all the factions in it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1081246.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1081246.page GMT
In fact I never refernce the books most of the time.

But they are always stuff i appreicate buying.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1081258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1081258.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120354.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120625.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120628.page GMT http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warcasters/kommander-strakhov


my bad ;P new kommando caster for khador.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1120632.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124546.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124620.page GMT
Some new Winterguard troops!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124825.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124941.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1124945.page GMT http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cygnar/units/trencher-commandos ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1126366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1126366.page GMT
The Firefly, Cyngar Light Warjack.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1127596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1127596.page GMT The Firefly, Cyngar Light Warjack.[/quote]

You can't take the sky from me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1127625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1127625.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1129662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1129662.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1129671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1129671.page GMT The Firefly, Cyngar Light Warjack.[/quote]

You can't take the sky from me.[/quote]

No, but it sounds like this will take your cortex, at range too.

It won't be plastic unless they've changed their plans. Plastics are only for large or overly complex models (like heavy warjack kits and heavy infantry) , everything else will be in metal. That said, I wouldn't mind a bunch of light warjack variants in plastic. I don't think light there are enough light warjacks, or that they're used enough, so with Mk2 bringing them back I want to see more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1131157.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/262068/1131157.page GMT