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				<description><![CDATA[ watched the movie and thought i'd see how close i could get, turns out really close, not for competition, just for fun<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Logan Grimnar (275)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Njal Stormcaller (270)<br /> Terminator armour<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Ragnar Blackmane (260)<br /> Svangir and Ulfgir<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Wolf Lord (290)<br /> Runic Armour Thunderwolf  Storm Shield  Frost Axe  Melta Bomb Wolf tooth necklace Saga of the warrior born fenrisian wolf x 2<br /> <br /> TROOP - Wolf Guard x 5 (345)<br /> terminator armour x 5 strom shield x 5 thunderhammer chainfist frost axe powerfist assualt cannon melta bombs x 5<br /> <br /> TROOP - Wolf Guard x 3 (309)<br /> terminator armour x 2 storm shield thunderhammer x 2 frost blade Arjac Rockfist<br /> <br /> ELITE - Lone Wolf (109)<br /> teminator armour storm shield thunderhammer melta bomb fenrisian wolf<br /> <br /> Total - 1849<br /> 13 warriors (not including the wolves)<br /> <br /> tell me what you think thanks<br /> <br /> PapaSmurf]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Epic.<br /> Roll with it and don't forget the camera for bat rep.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's really cool!  Maybe not super competitive, but I agree with Sanctjud, I wanna see Battle Reports!  That idea just has pinache!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I actually did this way back in 3rd edition, but made squad leaders, characters and vehicles the 13 warriors from the movie.<br /> <br /> Beowolf was my Wolf Lord<br /> Egtho (The Archer) was my LasC Annihil<br /> etc.<br /> Oh and my Thirteenth warrior was me. (My name is very close to the nick name from the movie/book, Ibn, that they gave the arab.)<br /> Very fluffy and cool.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice! I can't wait to see it in the gallery.<br /> <br /> <br /> You WILL put it in the gallery, right?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I love such kinds of armies. Just go for the fun. If your enemy does so too this will get a book of a story as a batrep <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Now I'm waiting for that one Guardplayer to do 300 <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think this is totally cool. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">  <br /> <br /> I can't really say anything about the list or its competitiveness, but very cool. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> My wife made a pink tide (orks) of Orkettes.  She's working on little blond hair and braids and boobs to go on them.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Love to see them Vs Orks or 'nids for the EPICNESS<br /> <br /> [quote=Dashofpepper]My wife made a pink tide (orks) of Orkettes.  She's working on little blond hair and braids and boobs to go on them.[/quote]<br /> <br /> What the?! It sounds like a waaagh of Barbie toys exposed to the microwave! <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>LOL</span>!!! I would really like to see photos of both armies.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sounds awesome, that was a really cool film. Interesting to see what you come up with in terms of models.<br /> <br /> BUT, in terms of terminator-armoured crushing forces, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> is probably overpriced in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> codex, and underpriced in codex <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>.<br /> <br /> Example:<br /> Marneus Calgar 250<br /> Lysander 200<br /> 2x5 scouts 150<br /> 30 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> terminators 1200<br /> <br /> That's 1800 points. Slap some upgrades on the scouts to make 1850. You could take vulkan or pedro, both of whom enhance the terminators' abilities, but I would rather have the eternal warrior characters. I think the above army would take your 13 guys, even if the characters aren't nearly as extreme. Obviously the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> player could redress the balance by heavily targetting Njal, Ragnar and the Wolf Lord. None of these guys have EW, so they'd go down fairly quickly. <br /> <br /> There is absolutely no point to this observation, since you're specifically making a thirteen warrior army. I just thought you should know that if someone had made a film about 32 warriors and 10 not-quite-as-tough guys who followed them around, you'd be in better luck competitively.<br /> <br /> Also, I'm bored.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly]Sounds awesome, that was a really cool film. Interesting to see what you come up with in terms of models.<br /> <br /> BUT, in terms of terminator-armoured crushing forces, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> is probably overpriced in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> codex, and underpriced in codex <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>.<br /> <br /> Example:<br /> Marneus Calgar 250<br /> Lysander 200<br /> 2x5 scouts 150<br /> 30 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> terminators 1200<br /> <br /> That's 1800 points. Slap some upgrades on the scouts to make 1850. You could take vulkan or pedro, both of whom enhance the terminators' abilities, but I would rather have the eternal warrior characters. I think the above army would take your 13 guys, even if the characters aren't nearly as extreme. Obviously the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> player could redress the balance by heavily targetting Njal, Ragnar and the Wolf Lord. None of these guys have EW, so they'd go down fairly quickly. <br /> <br /> There is absolutely no point to this observation, since you're specifically making a thirteen warrior army. I just thought you should know that if someone had made a film about 32 warriors and 10 not-quite-as-tough guys who followed them around, you'd be in better luck competitively.<br /> <br /> Also, I'm bored.[/quote]<br /> Drop a Termie for another six scouts and it could be loosely based on "The 47 Ronin".... albeit with 16 of them less badass then most adaptations of that story...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ sorry for my ignorance but...... what film are you all talking about? It sounds cool.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I will try and get some pictures up hopefully by the end of the weekend, models are all built but not painted as yet.<br /> <br /> Which movie are you referring to? the 13th warrior has antonio bandaras in it the other, 47 ronin i think it was, I haven't seen so don;t know about that one<br /> <br /> PapaSmurf]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=gunfex]sorry for my ignorance but...... what film are you all talking about? It sounds cool.[/quote]<br /> <br /> The movie is "The 13th Warrior" starring Antonio Banderas........and if you have not seen this movie, drop what you're doing and go rent/buy it RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> It's based on the book "Eaters of the Dead" by Michael Crichton.<br /> <br /> [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhm7DMvapGA[/youtube]<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was working on this list too, but with one fluffy change.<br /> <br /> I am using a tallarn model as Ibn, and making him an Inquisitor.  Remember the 13th warrior could not be a northman. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ An absolutely themed army; <br /> 13 Warriors is the least number I've seen in 1850 pt games. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't remember melta bombs in that movie. What do they represent? Also although it is based off of "eaters of the dead" that book is based off of the first book writen in English, yep you guessed it, Beowolf. Beowolf is the Norse rendition of the book, and eaters of the dead is the arabic rendition.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, it's not. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I read that book in an airport once. It's the author's bullsh*t 'reimagining' of the Beowulf premise (settlement plagued by bestial attackers by night; foreign hardasses come forth to save the day). It's a terrible book that became a good action movie. It has bugger all to do with Beowulf.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Great concept for a fun List with minimal Characters. I Love it! The only thing I would like to see, is maybe drop 2 of the 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> unit and make them as Lone Wolfs. Extra staying power! or if possible, since it is very character based. Get Arjac in there!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I guess I could go into the relations myself but I think that it would be easier to just give you a link, although the essay itself is not proof, it expresses ideas that are all based to proof. <a href="http://www.essaydepot.com/essayme/2027/index.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.essaydepot.com/essayme/2027/index.php</a> <br /> Or read the second paragraph of wikipedia "The novel upon which the film is based is itself loosely inspired by Richard Frye's translation of ibn Fadlan's non-fictional account of his travels up the river Volga in the tenth century and the Old English heroic epic poem, Beowulf."<br /> Please do some research, reading the book in an airport is hardly enough to disprove my claim. <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks mate, but I didn't mean that I've read the book, and hence I know it's not Beowulf. I mean I've read Beowulf (in old english) and Ibn Fadlan's account (in translation) and Michael Crichton's book (in paperback). I know that the book was written to incorporate/interpret a lot of those sources, but I've come to the conclusion that the connection is a load of bullsh*t. <br /> I'm not having a go at you personally, but I think the logic behind this is very tenuous. All societies have legends about things that go bump in the night. Personally I think the Grendel figure has a lot to do with the remnants of tribes that used to live in Denmark (the Vendel culture) which would fit the standard myth-creation pattern for monsters plaguing primitive tribal societies. <br /> <br /> The essay that link leads to was written by a highschool student, and the way it's written doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.<br /> <br /> Again, I'm not trying to insult you. But I think the connection between the two early-medieval sources and the pulp novel are the sort of thing the author goes on about to give his work a bit of gravitas. It's a book about norsemen bashing things up. Relation to old english poetry and muslim travel writing: not much.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Piper - Arjac is in there, second group of wolf guard. And there are 4 characters, the most allowed so its really character heavy, but appropriate nonetheless<br /> <br /> westin - 13 is crazy but I got it down to 10 models in a completely legal but stupid way<br /> <br /> Still working on getting some pics taken, will update asap<br /> <br /> PapaSmurf]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Unfortunately, Logan and Njal cannot be in the same army... they have the same Sagas.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=bigduncm24]Unfortunately, Logan and Njal cannot be in the same army... they have the same Sagas.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Actually they can...named characters are exempt from that rule.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Where does it say that?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=bigduncm24]Where does it say that?[/quote]<br /> Second Paragraph, Page 64]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If only there was a way to work Lucas the Trickster in.....<br /> <br /> Great idea man, looking forward to seeing how it turns out.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:40:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kaotik]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thats' really an awesome list; and very fluffy too! <br /> <br /> Hope to see a batrep..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:02:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheUnforgiven]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Anpu42][quote=bigduncm24]Where does it say that?[/quote]<br /> Second Paragraph, Page 64[/quote]<br /> <br /> Thank you for the correction.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:12:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bigduncm24]]></author>
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