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Whether you find them useful, or hate them to point of oblivion, everyone has to respect the useful and flexibility of a tactical squad. They’re so powerful, considering their stats, and their weapons.

Aim
The intention of the article is to Give an objective POV on the weapons used by Tactical marines

Basic equipment: active
Bolter:
An essential piece of gear, and by far one of the best weapons available to the imperial army

Good points:
Acceptable strength, dependable, fairly good rifle acceptable range

Bad points
Range when moving, can’t fire into assault

Bolt-pistol
Essentially the best risk-free pistol-grade weapon available to the imperium, great for charging into combat, and create a great tactical asset for infantry.

Good points
Acceptable strength, dependable, fires into assault, Pistol

bad points
Range

Basic equipment: passive
Frag and Krak grenades
Frag grenades are pretty much useless during the main course of combat, and even in an assault almost uncalled upon, but when they’re needed, they’re great. Their only real purpose is to stop assaulting marines from loosing their initiative when charging through dangerous terrain, whereas a Krak grenade allows infantry to resolve anti-tank results at strength 6, broadening their ability to cause damage to hard targets.

Good points
Free to almost all marines, essentially useful when needed, no risks, only benefits (however slight)

Bad points
There are no bad points to these grenades, they’re basically useful and free, therefore no problem can come of them.

Power armour
Best available protection across almost all armies at least for a basic marine this armour is better then most.

Good points
Free basic armour, excellent for increased survivability.

Bad points
None known of.

Specialists weapons
Flamer
The free specialist weapon, acceptable strength, ability to deny both cover and armour saves while killing high-amounts of troops

good points
Acceptable strength, never misses, potentially hits a lot of troops, denies cover and a 3rd of armour saves.

Bad points
Terrible range, even if it’s template.

Meltagun
The best a marine can get. This weapon is for specialist as Chainsword is for assault. very powerful, with the potential to kill almost anything with one shot.

Good points
Excellent strength, can fire into assault, 2D6 armour pen. Fairly cheap.

Bad points
Only it’s bad range.

Plasma rifle
The very top in infantry killer, even if it can be dangerous for it’s user.

Good points
Better then your average rifle, sears through armour and can instant kill quite a few troops.

Bad points
Mediocre range when moving, expensive, has Gets hot N: being a marine, the chance of getting killed by gets hot is 2/36 which is very miniscule. Meaning it’s not that much of a worry, but it’s still important to note it.

Heavy specialist weapons
Heavy bolter
Good for taking out hordes, and fairly effective at it but it’s surpassed by the other weapons available.

Good points
High rate of fire, range, free.

Bad points
Comparatively weak compared to other free weapons

Missile launcher
The main-stray heavy weapon of the space marines, it is capable of more then one fire mode, and equally effective against weaker tanks and smaller horde-type armies (such as guard.)

Good points
Good against light vehicles and smaller horde enemies, excellent range, free.

Bad points
Not too specialised, meaning it can have difficulty killing any enemy it’s faced against on it’s complement, it’s by far the most flexible weapon available.

multi-melta
Potentially high killing power, and much better at it then it’s younger cousin, yet also not as effective.

Good points
Better range then Meltagun, free.

Bad points
Poor range for a heavy weapon.

Plasma cannon
Need killing power for small armoured contingencies like terminators? Look no further then the great plasma cannon, a personal favourite, and by far one of the most deadly anti-infantry weapons around. Despite the ‘Gets Hot!’ special rule, it’s the best possible rule available. I suggest it to any budding commander who trusts hid D6 not to get a 1.

Good points
Excellent range, blast weapon at S7, AP2 great for both heavily armoured units like terminators and for light tanks like rhinos and predators

Bad points
The Gets hot! Special rule could loose your asset.

Lascannon
Need anti-tank menace? I suggest a lascannon. Lascannons are very powerful for infantry weapons, but are probably less effective then a plasma cannon against soft targets in hordes, but it’s worth using against, say, a terminator lord and any tank has something to look out for.

Good points
It’s Range, strength and AP.

Bad points
High point cost, low horde-killing power.

This is my own ideals, and may change between people. Don’t take my words on such rules as gets hot for granted, as there is still a chance a trooper will die.

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I run MM, PC and ML.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1409803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1409803.page GMT dissection of tactical squads weapons. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1409814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1409814.page GMT dissection of tactical squads weapons.
Devastator wrote:missile is bropably´the best weapond begose it dont make alloys to squad to engage apc and infandry
In English next time please.

A nice little write-up. Solon, I'd suggest altering the format slightly so it's easier to read, add some proper headings, full stops, and the like.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1410092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1410092.page GMT dissection of tactical squads weapons. (i.e. they did have headings) but I wanted a response, so I wrote it up here.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1410140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1410140.page GMT dissection of tactical squads weapons.
Fetterkey wrote:Lascannons don't cost 80 points.


notice the spot where i say "per squad" ie a squad of 4x lascannon havocs. I was talking about the point difference (lascannon weapon costs - xxxx weapon cost) between the two weapons as well, not the total cost of a lascannon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1425637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1425637.page GMT dissection of tactical squads weapons. MEQ marines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1425659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/284050/1425659.page GMT