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				<title>A simple 1500pts Ork + Chaos Space Marines list? Help and comments appreciated.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So I just got the new codex, and I already have an Ork and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army, so I figured I should try out an ally army with the two, just for fun.<br /> <br /> I am thinking with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and Orks, the Orks are better off being the main force. This is because <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> have little use of Ork screening troops, since they are melee monsters themselves, and Ork fire support is pretty bleh. What Orks DO have, is probably the best basic troop in the game, Shoota Boys.<br /> <br /> So I was thinking of a green tide list, with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> fire support. I am trying to avoid vehicles and flyers, so I can ignore high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> weapons(and also I have no flyer models). My idea was something along the lines of :<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Big Mek with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 30 Shootas with 3 Big Shootas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob with Bosspole<br /> 30 Shootas with 3 Big Shootas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob with Bosspole<br /> 30 Sluggas and Nob with Bosspole<br /> <br /> Ally<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Sorcerer with mark of Tzeenech, Master Level 2<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 7 Thousand Sons<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> 6 Chosen with 5 Plasma Guns, in a Rhino<br /> <br /> Heavy <br /> 3 Obliterators with Mark of Nurgle.<br /> <br /> The idea was that chaos gives some much needed ranged anti tank and psyker support to the Orks. The thousand sons and sorcerer can sit on the home objective, happily slinging spells and taking out devastators from a distance. The obliterators and chosen on the other hand help with tanks and terminators, respectively. Ofcourse, 5 plasma guns in a rhino can cheerfuly murder most vehicles too. <br /> <br /> My worry with this however is that due to the fact that Orks are not battle brothers with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span>, many of the psycic powers I might end up with are useless. Perhaps a better option would be some normal marines with meltas and a lord with Burning Brand? The problem there is I dont really need the extra melee, it seems like a waste. <br /> <br /> Perhaps a slaneeshi lord with Burning Brand and some noise marines? They would certainly fithfill my objective camping AP3 shooting needs, and that blastmaster can even kill vehicles. It seems a bit of a waste to have an I5 lord just sitting around shooting though.<br /> <br /> Also, another idea is to drop those obliterators for 5-6 havoks with Lascannons. They are slightly cheaper with more firepower, but I fear that since the entire enemy army is propably gonna be shooting at them first turn, they dont have the survivability to do much, unlike obliterators, that can just hide out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> first turn, or just take it.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:14:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DrDuckman]]></author>
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				<title>A simple 1500pts Ork + Chaos Space Marines list? Help and comments appreciated.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If chaos is in an allied detachment then the cult units cannot be troops choices, even if you are going to ignore flyers and such there needs to be a way of taking them down, so maybe trying flakk havocs or soemthing along those lines.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:01:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheMightyDilks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmm, I was unaware of the troop limitation. I guess the best choice then is a Daemon Prince with Black Mace, to take out terminators and fliers, with a classic 10 man 2 melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span> squad. How about this :<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Big Mek with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 25 Shootas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob with Bosspole <br /> 25 Shootas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob with Bosspole <br /> 25 Sluggas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob with Bosspole <br /> <br /> Ally <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Daemon Prince with Black Mace, Power Armor, Wings, Mark of Tzeenech.<br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> with 2 meltas and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>+meltabomb champ, Rhino<br /> <br /> Elite <br /> 6 Chosen with 5 Plasma Guns, in a Rhino <br /> <br /> Heavy <br /> 5 Havoks with 4 Lascannons<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Nov 2012 01:41:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DrDuckman]]></author>
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