So...we've the US in a debt crises. The military about to be gutted since the Super 12 can't get it together. Congress can't/won't/clueless on working together. Big O inadvertently started a class warfare. Drug cartel is getting way out of hand on our southern border. California is being....california also a cali university rioting because of tuition hike. Justin Bieber is not some kid father so the teeny bopper rage is back on for him. Rick Perry has brain farts on the podium, OWS getting off the chain, 41 cent of the dollar is debt or something, and coffee prices might go up again. 2012 people.
So....I've 20 acres in northern WI, well, septic, nice size log cabin (900sqft) generator, food (MRE's/can goods/flour/hunting damn good up there), servicable weapons with enough ammo to sustain 4 major firefights, 4 sets of body army, workshop with tools that a man collects after so many years (snap on/craftsman) SO yes..I say I can sustain my family for quite awhile up there.
Land is easy to defend. Tall pine tree's and thick under growth. Running stream through it so fishing is good. A skid steer loader (mini bulldozer) to improve positions and expand bunkers.
(Just having fun)
If the world goes to Hell in a hand basket. What can you offer me for safety and security. What can you contribute to Fortress Dakka
It's amazing that the largest and most gluttonous military industrial complex in the history of mankind getting trimmed (and still being more expensive then every other military on earth combined) is a sign of the end times. Satan must have those anti missile laser planes we cancelled.
ShumaGorath wrote:It's amazing that the largest and most gluttonous military industrial complex in the history of mankind getting trimmed (and still being more expensive then every other military on earth combined) is a sign of the end times. Satan must have those anti missile laser planes we cancelled.
Get that serious discussion out of a perfectly good comedy thread
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halonachos wrote:Also, living in WI you also have the Packers!
Once the world ends, you can go around and collect what's left of them and make them play for you in your giant underground arena!
halonachos wrote:We need more lasers and more military. That way we can finally become imperialists and take all of the everything.
Hopefully more military lasers.
I mean you can give them all the dvd players you want, I am not sure they help.
If someone has a bulletproof vest, beat them to death with a DVD player. Eventually they'll make and wear a DVD player proof vest and in that case we start using guns again.
halonachos wrote:We need more lasers and more military. That way we can finally become imperialists and take all of the everything.
Hopefully more military lasers.
I mean you can give them all the dvd players you want, I am not sure they help.
If someone has a bulletproof vest, beat them to death with a DVD player. Eventually they'll make and wear a DVD player proof vest and in that case we start using guns again.
WHEN DVD PLAYERS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE DVD PLAYERS
halonachos wrote:We need more lasers and more military. That way we can finally become imperialists and take all of the everything.
Hopefully more military lasers.
I mean you can give them all the dvd players you want, I am not sure they help.
If someone has a bulletproof vest, beat them to death with a DVD player. Eventually they'll make and wear a DVD player proof vest and in that case we start using guns again.
WHEN DVD PLAYERS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE DVD PLAYERS
Make stronger DVD players to try and race the production of vests, just like with guns.
ShumaGorath wrote:It's amazing that the largest and most gluttonous military industrial complex in the history of mankind getting trimmed (and still being more expensive then every other military on earth combined) is a sign of the end times. Satan must have those anti missile laser planes we cancelled.
Get that serious discussion out of a perfectly good comedy thread
Jihadin, you're really not prepared for a post-apocalyptic world.
I suggest you start buying (and drinking) lots of beer, bottles only, and saving up the bottle caps.
You also need to get way more sets of body armor. After each fight, you'll need to combine two of them together to get it back to peak condition.
And, start stocking up on Stimpaks. Food really isn't all that helpful. It's only useful for healing up between fights, and you can just drink from the toilet to do that.
zombie was not part of the fun discussion yet...we need to regress there...so far the financial collapse and people are out running around looking to survive. Vast majority have not prepared for it and are likely succumb...to..starvation and death. Resources are drying up and gas is good for a year before going bad. So I need someone who has electrical background...wind generator...and the electicution blanket on the floor for any...illegal...visits
Jihadin wrote:zombie was not part of the fun discussion yet...we need to regress there...so far the financial collapse and people are out running around looking to survive. Vast majority have not prepared for it and are likely succumb...to..starvation and death. Resources are drying up and gas is good for a year before going bad. So I need someone who has electrical background...wind generator...and the electicution blanket on the floor for any...illegal...visits
You're going to run a generator 24/7? Tsk, Tsk. If not someones just going to wait for a windless day to invade your couch fort.
I am very good with a katana believe it or not... I kid you not. And I'm small enough to be sent out on stealthy missions to steal supplies/get rid of troublesome people.
I am also very profficient in physics and can work well as weapons designer and fortifier. I also know the physics of electrical engineering though we haven't study it in depth yet.
Wow...actually think I'm going to run a generator 24/7....I'm not as soft as you think I am. I crank the generator only in a emergency. It better be a good damn emergency. Running the recharger for the DVD player...is not an emergency.....cranking the hand generator to recharge your DVD batteries is the way to go. It'll buff up on upper chest....and some you all need to grow a upper chest.
A katana...negative..not going to happen. If you need a weapon...well I know where to go for weapons commercial outlets. Military grade weapons. I just need muscles and security to "acquire" weapons for Fortress Dakka. Bring your own baby wipes to...tiolet paper I have is military...like wiping with 40 grit....
Easy E....nothing to offer? You have one thing I probaly need...are you good at...sprinting for long distance?
Your in look...good source of water to nearby to sustain the water cannon. You sir are my Heavy Weapon operator. Besides operating the water cannon you also have to get the coffee going first thing in the morning. Take your turn washing dishes and cooking....you can cook right?....boiling water is not cooking....can you skin a deer?
I can cook, I can skin and butcher a deer as well as pigeons, rabbits and squirrels, I can make a variety of improvised painkillers and explosives from basic chemical supplies, I'm 6'2" and I weigh around 171lb.
However I would probably go mad without tea and jelly babies...
Well...I do enjoy black tea....so be quite a huge stash of boxes of tea......as for IED's...it has to be command detonate on main walkways into and out of Fortress Dakka. Frag grenades can be acquired along with javelins...claymore...C4...AT4's..anyway....your SoL on the jelly babies....maybe raid a walmart or something...have to scout around first and see what can be salvage. No red Charger with the alarm going off driving around is not going to happen.
Easy E....they're trying to vote you out...wait...they're not in yet..better come up with a water cannon...Corpse my demo expert and master skinner.....why did WoW pop in my mind....
So Easy E Heavy Weapons
Corpseforfun is demo...till something enlightened happens to him
I have 8 horses and plenty of tack for them. Good for scouting, small raiding parties, and eating when decent forage for them becomes hard to get.
I may know a bit about tactics, may have a decent arsenal, and may have some survival type skills which could be of use.
Okay, 7.5 horses since Trooper is a mini horse. He can pull a cart with a few hundred pounds of supplies though, and in his tiny mind he is a 21 hand fire snorting war horse (just as the farrier).
Computers are out the window...no internet....till we get wind/water driven electricity. Do need commo...listen to the airwaves...would that include commo head sets WarOrk? if not two cans on a string might work for a little while till we can come up with better. So your the Hunter for Fortess Dakka. Deers are quite big in NE WI...even bears are there.
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No real comm-bead experience...I could probably figure something out but walkie talkies would probably be easier to get a hold on and might have a longer range...
I have a fair bit of experience installing and repairing Solar panels and respective boilers. I can lay bricks, plaster, plumb and drive my two tonne digger and dumper like a beast.
One of the wheels on the Dumper is bigger than the rest though, so it can only go in wide circles.
I also have 12 chickens, 3 ducks and a goat called Horace
Well..let's see, I can hunt, fish, repair/maintain most domestic types of vehicles, I'm a pretty good shot with handguns,rifles and shotguns, have had emergency first aid training, worked security in a state mental hospital...so have some experiance in "taking people to the ground" when needed...and have been in a few " physical altercations" not involving " work" as well.
I can cook, play guitar and I'm cute too.
Well..thinking SINGAR radio's to. They're usually kept in the same room with the weapons. Pretty easy to locate a -10 operator manual for them. Can go to a unit motor pool and track down a singar antenna. I was thinking more about Ham Operator
Fitz your in. Can send multiple hunting parties out. Big Foot is not on the hunting list
Toast...not doing me a whole lot of good in Italy...if you make it over by row boat, glider, or Deadlist Catch boat then make your way to WI. If you get there I make sure you get a hold of a nice shiney bull dozer or something. Leave the chickens bring the goat
Corpse..couple years of living rough...you probaly sound like your from WI hows that
alternatively enraging them to the point where dialogue is not an actionable course.
Doubt it. We be packing some serious military hardware so intimidation is a major factor. Mention I know where we can get MRAPS that fully geared besides weapons and comms?
djphranq can always use a labor guy...shovel and rake..nice size garden to supplement the food.
Frazz Wiener Dog Command does not meet height requirment
I can work on/repair most non-german vehicles, I'm a pretty decent shot, good cook, and some survival training. I can also play guitar, bass, and trumpet (for entertainment of course).
...unlike corpses, I have a normal, Midwest "accent", so it's pretty boring.
Mega your in and most tech/maintenance manuals are with the MRAP's. I've the tools. If not I think we can come up with whats missing. Like I never seen a transmission hanging from a tree branch before. We be probaly using Jeeps/trucks to consolidate the fortress retrieving building supplies and forage.
I can see a truck dedicated to beer and alcohol forage already...
corpsesarefun wrote:Nothing is more frightening than a tall, slightly mad englishman armed to the teeth and on the hunt for jelly babies.
... A taller, larger, angry coonass...armed to the teeth on the hunt for gumbo.
Coonass hunting for gumbo but ending up eating swamp rats while trying to convince the rest of the party the critters actually taste good.... I know the type.
BTW, forgot to mention I home brew beer. Top that for survival skill.
I've already promised Silver ( in a previous "end of the world" thread) that I'd look out for him and his and teach him various needed skills...so Silver gets a pass.
Jihadin wrote:Mega your in and most tech/maintenance manuals are with the MRAP's. I've the tools. If not I think we can come up with whats missing. Like I never seen a transmission hanging from a tree branch before. We be probaly using Jeeps/trucks to consolidate the fortress retrieving building supplies and forage.
I can see a truck dedicated to beer and alcohol forage already...
Ah, most truck are easy to work on...I would recommend regular gas engines, and the more of them that are carbureted, the better!
Also, I can't work on vehicles without beer, so we'll need a supply fore sure
corpsesarefun wrote:Nothing is more frightening than a tall, slightly mad englishman armed to the teeth and on the hunt for jelly babies.
... A taller, larger, angry coonass...armed to the teeth on the hunt for gumbo.
Coonass hunting for gumbo but ending up eating swamp rats while trying to convince the rest of the party the critters actually taste good.... I know the type.
BTW, forgot to mention I home brew beer. Top that for survival skill.
Nutria does taste good...if you cook it right. ...Home brew?..combined with your noted BBQ/Military skills...your a shoe in Cap.
Jihadin wrote:Fitz your in. Can send multiple hunting parties out. Big Foot is not on the hunting list
Toast...not doing me a whole lot of good in Italy...if you make it over by row boat, glider, or Deadlist Catch boat then make your way to WI. If you get there I make sure you get a hold of a nice shiney bull dozer or something. Leave the chickens bring the goat
Corpse..couple years of living rough...you probaly sound like your from WI hows that
alternatively enraging them to the point where dialogue is not an actionable course.
Doubt it. We be packing some serious military hardware so intimidation is a major factor. Mention I know where we can get MRAPS that fully geared besides weapons and comms?
djphranq can always use a labor guy...shovel and rake..nice size garden to supplement the food.
Frazz Wiener Dog Command does not meet height requirment
They can if they pyramid. I've seen wiener dog pyramids dwarf...well the Pyramids, when snacks are involved.
I will gladly provide the life or death external threat that you need to band together. Otherwise you'll get on each others nerves eventually and then you're all doomed. Helmet zombies forever!!!
warpcrafter wrote:I will gladly provide the life or death external threat that you need to band together. Otherwise you'll get on each others nerves eventually and then you're all doomed. Helmet zombies forever!!!
I'm suprised no one mentioned cats yet. I would bring cats. Not because I like them (they're okay, but I'm more of a dog man), but because if you want to destroy evil demons, you have to beat them to death with an equally evil demon. See, they know we have guns. They know we have swords, clubs, and axes. And they've prepared accordingly. But when they see you charging them with a pair of hissing, flailing cats, swinging them by their tails, that whole demon army is going to turn the hell around and run back to... well... Hell, I guess.
No one expects to be beaten to death with a cat though. They're both blunt AND sharp. At the same time. Bring it on, 2012.
FITZZ wrote: I've already promised Silver ( in a previous "end of the world" thread) that I'd look out for him and his and teach him various needed skills...so Silver gets a pass.
I have a range of skills and am a quick learner and a team player. I'm happy to do pretty much anything that is required by the group from digging toilets to helping conduct surgery, skinning animals to helping repair machines and electronics. My wife is a science teacher, which is important for group continuation and I am certainly more than qualified to teach maths and science as well as certain aspects of engineering.
But in the short term I am a slightly unfit young man with a level head and a willing to do and learn all that I can and am required to do. Fitness and proficiency will come to those who work, but you can't engender the will.
You know...the more people that we acquire into Fort Dakka...we have to expand it. I also know that some of us have wives and some of you all are single...men...so if we come across groups of females well....we do have to repopulate. More living space...I say "Jersey" barriers work great...we need a cement guru.
Sarp we always need more cooks
Frazz......not selling me on the wienerdogs. They consume food...unless trained attack dogs...I can't see a trained attack weinerdog...can they...pull a plow?
Metal...not sweating cats nor demons....I'm more worry about a politician stumbling across our slice of "little america" in Fort Dakka. A politician is more dangerous.
Jihadin wrote:You know...the more people that we acquire into Fort Dakka...we have to expand it. I also know that some of us have wives and some of you all are single...men...so if we come across groups of females well....we do have to repopulate. More living space...I say "Jersey" barriers work great...we need a cement guru.
Sarp we always need more cooks
Frazz......not selling me on the wienerdogs. They consume food...unless trained attack dogs...I can't see a trained attack weinerdog...can they...pull a plow?
Metal...not sweating cats nor demons....I'm more worry about a politician stumbling across our slice of "little america" in Fort Dakka. A politician is more dangerous.
Pull a plow...no. Make others pull a plow...you betcha!
Fitz...I figure a mout...with embarkment running behind. Bunkers at even interval with good field of fire. We just steadly improve our Fortress. Hospital and food storage....Silver your in...back..figure we can build above and below ground.
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Pull a plow...no. Make others pull a plow...you betcha!
Master Fitness in effect. For those that are serious in weight loss.....not like we be gaining any ourselves at the beginning. Till we figure out who good at cooking
Got two uncles who have reloading equipment and reload various pistol and shotgun rounds.
I've never done it myself, but it looked fairly easy...course most things do until you try to do them.
EDIT: Saw these...and thought they'd make decent starter forts...
Figure reloads be a work in progress till everyone gets it down. Not really worry about smokers cause I think cigerettes be.....gone..unless we plant tobacco leafs..everybody be pitching in on the garden to along with the hunting parties. We make sure we grab the equipment on a forage mission or hit up a gun shop...yellow pages be a good clue to we might acquire it. 5.56mm and 7.62mm simple. Be quite a haul bringing enough to make sure everyone carries/access to at least 210 rds per person.
Starter fort is to much effort and money to build. Jersey barriers are good. Cement up against the berms to reinforce..and make it look tidy works for us.
warpcrafter your time will come..just not at the moment...we have to go through one extreme to get really prime for the "GAME OVER MAN" phase. Possible you might bolo and come up NE WI in Jan with some zombies
Jihadin wrote:Figure reloads be a work in progress till everyone gets it down. Not really worry about smokers cause I think cigerettes be.....gone..unless we plant tobacco leafs..everybody be pitching in on the garden to along with the hunting parties. We make sure we grab the equipment on a forage mission or hit up a gun shop...yellow pages be a good clue to we might acquire it. 5.56mm and 7.62mm simple. Be quite a haul bringing enough to make sure everyone carries/access to at least 210 rds per person.
Hell, there's a load of ammo laying around as it is, learning to reload them would most likely be an obtainable skill long before running out of existing surplus.
...And yeah, I suppose I'd have to see to a crop of tobacco...I tend to get ...unpleasant with out a few smokes during the day.
Jihadin wrote:Running low on smokes I can see the foraging mission taking a bit longer as we tear apart cigerette machines. Better find some tobacco plants
... Yeah, I can see going out for medical supplies and coming back with a trailer truck filled with Marlboros ..
Precisely as much loyalty and backup as I, and my two accompanying bodies are afforded.
What can you contribute to Fortress Dakka
I can weld/cut/braze metal so long as consumables or electricity can be obtained. Welded steel (Whether alone or used as a skeleton for a concrete wall) makes a better barricade than piled up furniture. Helps a bit when you have a major parts failure with no replacements available on your vehicles or other equipment. If you can find me a steel shop that has the proper alloys I can make you rifle plates for the body armor for a good long while.
I can do any work on an M16/M4 family weapon short of actual parts fabrication or modification that needs to be done maintenance/troubleshooting wise (I can run one pretty decently too.) Similar for the AK platform.
I brought my own ammo and support parts, rifle, body armor and rudimentary NV.
I can weave chainmail (Zombies and people who don't have guns ain't going to be doing a whole lot to ya.)
You'll have another body that won't fall to freakin pieces as soon as things get a little "energetic" and can be cross-trained to do anything that needs doing.
All ya gotta do is help me get food and walls to hide behind for me and mine, and not pose a greater risk than the zombies. (Looking at you, people on Walking Dead.)
Fitz..I can see the smoke stash building. I be done to smoking whatever brand we get a hold of....might have to spend extra time to find a couple can of beans to consider the mission a partial success
Jihadin wrote:Your in Mel. If I see a cans of vienna sausages they're rifle targets
Naw, I'll eat 'em, vienna sausage isn't bad if you dump enough hot sauce on them.
...Should stock up on these as well...
...And they have beef and chicken as well.
your so in SOFDC. I know off hand where 3 metal shops with lathes are. they have forklifts there that run on propane. Also I do know there is a propane storage site is at if we need the fuel to run them
Also we be able to gear ourselves with M249's and 240B's along with .50 cals. Mark19 40mm grenade launchers. I know where a ARMY 3rd shop container is at thats in a 20 ft container. Simple move there since PLS loaders are near by. Also HEMMET Wreckers for Mega to help him and other's for vehicle maintenance
KK...if Mel throws in some SPAM..then I can let go the vienna sausage's,.....beaniweenies on the menu for a couple week I see...
Mega you be in charge permanent improvement of Fortress Dakka. If it starts to feel orkish or marinish we might be throwing out a bad perception. Of course I might start saying serfs or something. First bunker to go up will be Fortress Dakka Battle Bunker
Haha, I'd love that job...plus, it's easy to teach. The only thing I don't have a decent amount of experience in a carpentry.
And Fitzz, welding (steel) is super easy. Hell, I got all of my automovie certifations on the first try...Aluminum on the other hand, takes some practice haha. I've done some stick, TIG, and acetylene welding also, but mostly MIG
Jihadin wrote:Your in Mel. If I see a cans of vienna sausages they're rifle targets
Mostly it's cans of chili and cans of chunky campbells soup of various kinds. And some boxes of uncooked pasta (each box is enough for about seven or eight meals worth of pasta), but I'd have to commandeer other things to make a sauce for it...
corpsesarefun wrote:I can sing badly and I have no sense of rhythm, am I in the band?
... Hmm, Can you play the cow bell?
Nope
Some folk say I can sing but those close to me say I can't so I'm inclined to believe them.
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Jihadin wrote:Your in Mel. If I see a cans of vienna sausages they're rifle targets
Mostly it's cans of chili and cans of chunky campbells soup of various kinds. And some boxes of uncooked pasta (each box is enough for about seven or eight meals worth of pasta), but I'd have to commandeer other things to make a sauce for it...
Being the only female in the camp is probably not going to be terribly enjoyable for you mel...
I can provide good hard copies of FM 5-34 and a couple versions of SH 21-76. Between those two we can get folks up to speed on a variety of important skills.
MrDwhitey wrote:I am, like many, completely and utterly useless in a survival situation. I'm also physically frail, so I think I'll be among the first to go.
I've been weight-lifting since my freshman year of highschool...and judging by some of the other people that will be surviving in Fort Dakka, WE WILL PUMP YOU UP
Whitey...can you run? Just for like 4-5 secs open sprint if I need you to?
Matty...I catch you dumping bodies upstream of Fortress Dakka. I will personnaly have a gay moment and apply BenGay on your Mr Happy while tied between two trees. Use the water cannon to rinse you off. Another gay moment will happen but no Bengay...but a hungry calf looking to nurse.
warpcrafter wrote:I will gladly provide the life or death external threat that you need to band together. Otherwise you'll get on each others nerves eventually and then you're all doomed. Helmet zombies forever!!!
Are we talking football helmets or army helmets?
Or are brain buckets more your type?
Whatever I can get from the local army surplus store.
Jihadin wrote:Matty...I catch you dumping bodies upstream of Fortress Dakka. I will personnaly have a gay moment and apply BenGay on your Mr Happy while tied between two trees. Use the water cannon to rinse you off. Another gay moment will happen but no Bengay...but a hungry calf looking to nurse.
This may sound weird but I think the end of the world might be the best thing that can happen to me...it'll force me to lose weight and learn all the skills I wanted to learn but never had time to...
Sure the internet may be gone and with it things like videogames and communication but sometimes it seems like it would be simpler that way...
Rule 1 of playing spades....be able to smack talk and back it up with the cards.
So I see we might have some issue with the "other" people who want to pull down Fortress Dakka. I'm all for leg irons and hard labor.
Whitey I guess you go into the garden section and pull weeds. Also light up the sconces when it gets dark. Light duty work that are numerous. We are there to help you build a better mind and body
WARORK93 wrote:This may sound weird but I think the end of the world might be the best thing that can happen to me...it'll force me to lose weight and learn all the skills I wanted to learn but never had time to...
Sure the internet may be gone and with it things like videogames and communication but sometimes it seems like it would be simpler that way..
Trust me man, we communicated just fine before internet...if anything communication was much better back then because much of it took place face to face.
Jihadin wrote:I'm worried about the smart phone/cells withdraw. I know some of you all have a texting addiction
Heh, I guess being the " old dog" on the bunch will serve me nicely, I grew up without cellphones and such...so won't really " miss" them...plus video games bore me.
Coming off the techno tit won't really bother me very much...if we have a TV, DVD player and a stack of horror flicks...I'm all good.
I'm fast, can shoot, have a good tactical mind, learn quickly, have survival skills, and intelligent. Not to mention the fact that I can put up with extreme heat and cold.
Jihadin wrote:I'm worried about the smart phone/cells withdraw. I know some of you all have a texting addiction
Pffft...I've had a phone that texts for five years now and never used it for anything more than calls...
@ Fitzz...That's true...we'll end up back in a time where, in the words of Marston: "You do wrong by a man and he'll shoot you, you do right by a man and he may still shoot you but at least you know the difference between right and wrong."
Jihadin wrote:I'm worried about the smart phone/cells withdraw. I know some of you all have a texting addiction
Pffft...I've had a phone that texts for five years now and never used it for anything more than calls...
@ Fitzz...That's true...we'll end up back in a time where, in the words of Marston: "You do wrong by a man and he'll shoot you, you do right by a man and he may still shoot you but at least you know the difference between right and wrong."
Exactly...hell a global apocalypse would be a small price to pay just to see if half the folks on the internet were willing to put their money were their mouth is.
You know, with ISP gateways in boxes on every corner, I'm QUITE SURE enough deep layer hardware could be scavenged to recreate a small regional internet.
MrDwhitey wrote:The first actions by the first two users on this new "regional" internet would probably to troll each other.
...And the following action after that should be to have them both tossed into a gladatorial pit...were they can settle their disagreement for our amusement.
Oh man, if a good portion of the internet infra was still there, you could have like, cyber-mad max battles where people are setting up rogue routing tables and competing DNS servers. You'd have to drive around and destroy rogue hardware to keep yours from having address conflicts.
With nobody running the deep web, netadmin becomes the wild west.
MrDwhitey wrote:The first actions by the first two users on this new "regional" internet would probably to troll each other.
...And the following action after that should be to have them both tossed into a gladatorial pit...were they can settle their disagreement for our amusement.
Gentlemen, we'll need to ensure we have plenty of tactical bacon. Phillipine Marines carry this stuff in their kit, and those guys are f***ing nuts. Like, Roided up Oompa Loompas with Rabies kind of f***ing nuts. Thus, by stocking tactical bacon, we'll be f***ing nuts and unstoppable.
Also, we'll obviously need certified blacksmiths and gunsmiths to repair tools and weapons. For some reason this -always- gets overlooked in an apocalypse until someone's weapon jams or their axe gets too dull to imbed itself in a zombie scalp.
So besides a doctor..general surgeon perfer we need a IT guru to get this up and running...we got solar panels and I do know some of the admin buildings on post have good size panels....if someone say we need a lawyer you are going into the gladiator pit to face the weiners.
Your in Legion. Always good to have experience shooters. Can help the the other trigger pullers get up to standards.
Battle. I'm all good with dessert making so can you bake? Using a Easy bake oven does not count.
i can shoot decently,but am no expert. i can grill,but am no expert. i can organize,but am no expert. i can swim,but am no expert. i can run like hell,but am no expert, i can be insane, total expert.
i can also make those hard supply runs better by going out 1st. if i dont come back,know its safe to come out.
Metal. Fitz got the small arms shop covered. I know where a 3rd shop depot level repair container for small arms is at. Has all the specs and repair procedure for all US weapon Also a PLS to move it. Metal would you be bringing your weapons? Not adverse to using M4's are you?
I can solder some - not pro level, but I can make connections and the like. Also capable of basic vehicle repair, helluva cook, and if you put anything bolt-action in my hands, things will die.
And Jihadin, I don't have any room for guns in my home (Plus my landlord would probably disapprove...) But my buddy and I go out shooting beer caps and cans with his .308 Win. and his .22LR practically every weekend, and I used to go out shooting and duck hunting with my Grandpa in Alberta when I was younger. Safe to say I can nail a zombie between the eyes from 300+ feet without a problem.
M4's won't be a problem. Got to practice plenty with the C7A1 and C8 in the combat sim in the basement of the armoury. Eugene Stoner's rifles have had my heart since I was old enough to know what an AR15 was.
Okay, well no arguing. I'll just talk about my end of days preparation.
My first goal is to learn a bit of navigation. I know nothing about it.
Second goal, learn how to drive boats and basic naval skills (I'm enlisted in the navy and going in this summer. Thinking about being a BM with coxswain certification just for the experience)
Learn how to fire a gun. Never fired a real gun. Only airsoft guns. Airsoft guns won't be very useful, except to annoy people with.
Learn extensive survival skills. Fire making, shelter building, cold and hot weather techniques, the works
Buy as much military surplus as possible. Reliable, functional clothing will be a rare commodity. Also, camouflage helps a lot in a variety of situations
Buy a nice back pack. My ALICE rucksack won't last very long.
Keep up the values and skills I've learned in the Navy, and pass those value and skills upon my children, which will born in the wilderness of maryland to a beautiful mother of a hard character.
Water travel will be rare. If I can ride down a river in a small boat that can also be a home, I'd be a happy sailor. And the captain of it too.
Klimino. All good. You have two arms and legs with 10 fingers and 11 toes. You can work with the livestocks. Help improve the grazing area and make/sustand the pen fence. Start small with goats, chickens, and cows. We need milk for coffee so....you know the repetitive motion ones does with their hands...Can get a bucket real jiffy like
Jihadin wrote:Klimino. All good. You have two arms and legs with 10 fingers and 11 toes. You can work with the livestocks. Help improve the grazing area and make/sustand the pen fence. Start small with goats, chickens, and cows. We need milk for coffee so....you know the repetitive motion ones does with their hands...Can get a bucket real jiffy like
11 toes...? *looks at feet* oh few you were wrong....
ive had chickens,and am great with them. if you need eggs and chickens bred and hatched,i can do it.
im not to familiar with this hand motion,perhaps a demonstration?
[b]Okay, well no arguing. I'll just talk about my end of days preparation.
My first goal is to learn a bit of navigation. I know nothing about it.
Army Field Manual 3-25.26 - - Land Navigation. All NCO's are train to use a map and compass...lot lose that experience since we use pluggers. we can though get military maps of the area/state we are in.
Second goal, learn how to drive boats and basic naval skills (I'm enlisted in the navy and going in this summer. Thinking about being a BM with coxswain certification just for the experience)
That comes in very handy. Summer time in WI is quite a haul on good size fishes. Not Big Foot fishing please
Learn how to fire a gun. Never fired a real gun. Only airsoft guns. Airsoft guns won't be very useful, except to annoy people with.
Load out kit more then likely be M4 with a M9 with appropiate ammo for two engagement maybe a flashbang and a frag. Plus training on the crew serves and maintaining the MRAP ad up armor support vehicles
Learn extensive survival skills. Fire making, shelter building, cold and hot weather techniques, the works
We got that covered. Just need your body and sweat
Buy as much military surplus as possible. Reliable, functional clothing will be a rare commodity. Also, camouflage helps a lot in a variety of situations
ACU's are good.If can get multicams from the army or the marine digital woodlawn. We also need to stock up on much uniformsBuy a nice back pack.
My ALICE rucksack won't last very long.
Got you covered on that. I know where they keep the RDI equipment. Be one of the first place acquire from. So everyone can look like we're on deploymnt
Keep up the values and skills I've learned in the Navy, and pass those value and skills upon my children, which will born in the wilderness of maryland to a beautiful mother of a hard character.
Values and skills become ingrained in you. You become after a few years. Instatutionalize
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Klimino sound like your working yourself into the livestock position.
We're so going to have to raid a library for books on this regard for livestock and planting and blacksmithing. I don't think I know a blacksmith. Guess we have to learn eh
Automatically Appended Next Post: Metal....I have no issue if you want to build a Hockey Rink like you all had in Afghanistan at Kandahar.....Can you bring the Tim Horton coffee shop?....with the ladies working in them?....
I see Fortress Dakka is going to be a FoB style installation. We need a RTCH to stack 20 ft containers on blocks to keep off the ground. Wigh the handy guys around we can start building CHU's with AC and if possisle hot and cold water.
Also seems we're getting a wide spectrum of nationals here. I say country flags be flown. All same size. Though not to an extent they will give information about ourselves and who we have there
Yeah, if the world is falling apart, I'm guessing all but the most secured military bases will fall to the service members that are stationed there. That would be a great place indeed to be.
The more secure places (Fort Hood, Benning, etc) would probably be locked down and under the jurisdiction of whatever was left of the government.
Agreed on major military post's. We're not foraging from those installations. Their are plenty other site we can equip and maintain our selves. I'm trying to keep everyone alive and productive. Major military units will have major issues to contend with before they start venturing out to see whats left. Also the fact everyone herding to them for safety and such. It'll be insane and dangerous.
Hold up at night. Wait till about 0200-0300 in the morning and stealth mode out. Sure the power grids will go out so be in your benefit. ot to sound stupid or what not. Get four phone books. Tw duct tape over your chest and the other two across your shoulder blade. Quick body armor and if you want to hole up in a pizza joint for the day you know where to look. So make sure wear dark clothes. Gunfire ensues it more likely pray and spray. You stand a good chance on making it out.
Jihadin wrote: Buy as much military surplus as possible. Reliable, functional clothing will be a rare commodity. Also, camouflage helps a lot in a variety of situations ACU's are good.If can get multicams from the army or the marine digital woodlawn. We also need to stock up on much uniformsBuy a nice back pack.
I got a spare set of CADPAT V1 and one smaller set of Flecktarn as well. Can easily get plenty of cheap CADPAT surplus in both AR and TW in Canada now that the A'stan mission is over. Suggest we stock up on it, as it's excellent stuff.
Also: I'm going to assume that Kevlar Plates, even surplus, will be in short supply post-apocalypse. So for anyone that doesn't watch Mythbusters - armouring your vehicle doors with phonebooks can actually stop most small arms fire. You'll still have to fix the windows up good n' proper, but it's a good, cheap way to add bullet-resistant capabilities to any working vehicle you may find in the Zombie wasteland.
Deathshead420 wrote:My parole officer says that i can make the best sandbags he has everseen, that and im really good at predicting when to stop fast forwarding on Tivo.
halonachos wrote:We need more lasers and more military. That way we can finally become imperialists and take all of the everything.
Hopefully more military lasers.
I mean you can give them all the dvd players you want, I am not sure they help.
If someone has a bulletproof vest, beat them to death with a DVD player. Eventually they'll make and wear a DVD player proof vest and in that case we start using guns again.
As to the discussion, I have no real skills, but I am a fast learner, and am not too picky about what I do to help Dakka Fort.
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My parole officer says that i can make the best sandbags he has everseen, that and im really good at predicting when to stop fast forwarding on Tivo.
we need this guy.
110% agreed Klimino. Just the word sandbags sealed his fate.. Pillow sheet are quite nice as sand bags to. Use them as the base and regular sandbags to cover the emplacement.
There can never be an end of sand bagging. Your end Deathshead Your going to be in fortification squad for a while
Mental note to self. get location of chowderhead boat for salvage.
Slarg welcome to the pioneer squad forming...you help build and improve fortification, help build wet CHU's, garden, livestock, and be generaly a "go-pher boy" sounds good?.......its Go For...
We have MRAP's at Appleton WI. They're combat lock but I have a key to unlock from the outside. So we're good Metal. with not need a crap load of phone books
Jihadin wrote: So...we've the US in a debt crises. The military about to be gutted since the Super 12 can't get it together. Congress can't/won't/clueless on working together. Big O inadvertently started a class warfare. Drug cartel is getting way out of hand on our southern border. California is being....california also a cali university rioting because of tuition hike. Justin Bieber is not some kid father so the teeny bopper rage is back on for him. Rick Perry has brain farts on the podium, OWS getting off the chain, 41 cent of the dollar is debt or something, and coffee prices might go up again. 2012 people.
So....I've 20 acres in northern WI, well, septic, nice size log cabin (900sqft) generator, food (MRE's/can goods/flour/hunting damn good up there), servicable weapons with enough ammo to sustain 4 major firefights, 4 sets of body army, workshop with tools that a man collects after so many years (snap on/craftsman) SO yes..I say I can sustain my family for quite awhile up there.
Land is easy to defend. Tall pine tree's and thick under growth. Running stream through it so fishing is good. A skid steer loader (mini bulldozer) to improve positions and expand bunkers.
(Just having fun)
If the world goes to Hell in a hand basket. What can you offer me for safety and security. What can you contribute to Fortress Dakka
I'd offer you snuggles during the night, purely straight man snuggles ofcourse.
Nothing gets you ready to shoot people like man snuggles the night before.
I know how to sail, but no guns for you, they're our guns.
So if they roll up in a Challenger Battle Tank? Which wouldn't suprise me....just locating space for it be interesting. Thing FoB Fortress Dakka is going multinational. Think we can recreate a world gov't?
I know how to sail, but no guns for you, they're our guns.
So if they roll up in a Challenger Battle Tank? Which wouldn't suprise me....just locating space for it be interesting. Thing FoB Fortress Dakka is going multinational. Think we can recreate a world gov't?
I call Liechtenstein! All of Liechtenstein will be mine.
Also, Challengers are good land tanks, but I'm not too sure about their sea trials.
I would not even ask how they got it there. I'm sure it'll be more then just three brits. We make sure to tell them no spoilers on how they did it. So they can give the Fortress Dakka audience a stage show for entertainment on how they accomplish it. I say 14 episodes be good.
You crawl into bed with me for a man snuggle then please don't cry when I break your fingers off at the shoulder
Jihadin wrote:I would not even ask how they got it there. I'm sure it'll be more then just three brits. We make sure to tell them no spoilers on how they did it. So they can give the Fortress Dakka audience a stage show for entertainment on how they accomplish it. I say 14 episodes be good.
You crawl into bed with me for a man snuggle then please don't cry when I break your fingers off at the shoulder
So you're saying that its possible for a lot of brits to swim a tank across the Atlantic? I see possibilities.
Hey Jihadin, I may have to take you up on that Hockey Rink - we've covered a lot of our survival aspects, but we haven't looked into recreation at all. Won't be all action, all the time. We'll need some sort of sport to keep us entertained - why not make it Hockey?
corpsesarefun wrote:My recreation is blowing things up and experimenting on making new weapons
Like I said, won't be all action, all the time. And we'll want to avoid too much racket, lest we become a target for Zombies or hostile survivor groups. Plus, blowing stuff up for amusement uses valuable resources. We can't waste Bonbaonbardlements like that in a Zombie Apocalpocalpse.
corpsesarefun wrote:My recreation is blowing things up and experimenting on making new weapons
Like I said, won't be all action, all the time. And we'll want to avoid too much racket, lest we become a target for Zombies or hostile survivor groups. Plus, blowing stuff up for amusement uses valuable resources. We can't waste Bonbaonbardlements like that in a Zombie Apocalpocalpse.
And Jihadin, it's called a 'Street rink'. Even though there's a profound lack of a street through it.
Corpses, you're an Englishman. And the first thing any trueblooded Englishman would do post-apocalypse is start up his own Brewery. We'll need beers for those hot summer days, and a still for making hard liquor which is a must for any first-aid kit in the absence of proper rubbing alcohol. Plus, it could catch us some good loot trading booze to other survivor communities. You know in your heart you'd make a mean brewmaster.
Corpse....its an old american tradition...a still....make it happen...we have birthdays to celebrate...and everyday a birthday...if not...hungry calf time
Metal...there it was hockey and fun...10 minutes in the rink...at that heat...
if its bad for human consumption but ignitable....I can show you how to make napalm mines.
One thing of abundance we have is 550 cord. Since we're in a wooded area...trip lines every three feet. Zombies are dumb. Humans trying to approach us will give away their position from all the cussing....napalm mines work good to
Jihadin wrote:if its bad for human consumption but ignitable....I can show you how to make napalm mines.
And flamethrowers. People say that flamethrowers are useless in the Zombie Apocalypse, but I beg to differ. They'll make defense much easier against living opponents, we'll be able to start cooking fires in wet weather, we can heat water quickly with the same tech, and we can use the fuel as an igniting agent for lanterns as well, since supplies of electricity and batteries out in the field will likely be rare at best.
Rented Tritium wrote:I know a lot of chemistry, that can't possibly fail to come in handy.
Excellent, you and Corpses can be in charge of brewing and chemical weapons. Probably a good idea to have both operations in seperate bunkers though...
Two lacation is playing it safe I agree. So every friday night we can "taste test" the product and try to vote who is better.
Trit your in. Sure we can get chemicals for you. No tailor made drugs for recreation. We do not need a building to explode because you wanted to make a "root beer soda" of course you can also spend time helping with booze section
Oh! I just remembered! I have a beer making machine! It even has a tap right on it! All we need is some yeast, sugar, water, and those mini CO2 cartriges. Raiding paintball, airsoft, general DIY and outdoor sporting stores should be at the top of the list so we can always have a choice between carbonated beers or ale. I mean, sometimes you want a good blonde, lager, or pilsner after popping zombies, and sometimes you'll want a nice smooth amber ale or a hard-hitting black ale. Just because the world is ending doesn't mean we can't have a choice of brews
corpsesarefun wrote:Excellent.
Will anyone be wanting wine? It's pretty easy to make but getting that quantity of grapes will be a pain.
Don't worry, if we can find someone certified to fly aircraft, and if we can strike a deal with Okanagan Valley survivors, we could get a tonne of grapes from remaining BC Wineries once a month in exchange for booze and any excess/salvaged weapons that we don't have the logistical capacity for. The great thing aboot Canada is that because Western Canada is so spread out, and major population centres tend to be few and far between, most of the farms there will probably still be operating.
This is turning out nicely. So how would we run our little fortress. Gov't wise...I'm not for Might makes Right....Common sense rule appeal to me.
Hmmm I can see Metal idea gaining popular support. I like that. I've no desire to store 2nd/3rd rate weapons but as trading material...It'll do very very nicely.
Jihadin wrote:This is turning out nicely. So how would we run our little fortress. Gov't wise...I'm not for Might makes Right....Common sense rule appeal to me
Council ...discussion...one man/woman over 18 one vote.
Fixed it for you
I can go with that.
I'm not for excution individuals for capital crimes. I would perfer hard labor in ankle chains. Prisoner will not get a free ride. They will contribute to the community. Of course I leave that up to discussion at a "Round Robin" sitting around the ole bonfire...taste testing some home brew
I think 1 vote, 1 man would be the best plan, with any laws implemented sans vote being of the 'common sense' variety (ie - citizens may only carry sidearms in camp, except for posted guards. All other weapons must be securely stored in armoury when not in use)
I do think we would need to discuss the idea of being prepared to implement marshall law, as well as basic law enforcement needs, should our community ever branch out at all. Your land will sustain us for a time, but reclaimation and settling of the surrounding land will also be inevitable as our population increases with other survivors joining us. War with opposing groups of survivors is also a reality, and we need to be prepared to handle violent opposition when we annex future lands for the good of all.
I know how to sail, but no guns for you, they're our guns.
So if they roll up in a Challenger Battle Tank? Which wouldn't suprise me....just locating space for it be interesting. Thing FoB Fortress Dakka is going multinational. Think we can recreate a world gov't?
We could probably get a few onto a ferry and sail it on over. The great thing about being an island nation is there are lots of big boats, and lots of people who know how to drive them.
I do think we would need to discuss the idea of being prepared to implement marshall law should our community ever branch out at all - Your land will sustain us for a time, but reclaimation and settling of the surrounding land will also be inevitable, as will war with opposing groups of survivors.
I can see that but intimidation and envy is a pain in the arse to deal with. So if we need to do a face to face with another group to trade with need to overawe. I would like for them to slide into the fold of Fortress Dakka. Just because they're going to see how well we are off. If the balloon goes up I want to crush them as quickly as possible and take out the shooters.
Royal Navy has amphibous ships of the Perseus class. You can get quite a few challenger and what not onto them. More people and supplies. Make way to the great lakes and land north of Green Bay. I figure with US armor along with UK armor....we're making the bad people guessing what the Hell on who we are
As far as executions...I would say that, IMO ..would depend upon the crime that was committed.
In certain cases I'd much rather just spend a bullet than spend time/manpower and other resources monitering a " chained laborer"
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lord commissar klimino wrote:
DukeBadham wrote:I bring you Biological weapons, and when I die, I can be used as food, or as a sandbag
Jihadin wrote:I can see that but intimidation and envy is a pain in the arse to deal with. So if we need to do a face to face with another group to trade with need to overawe. I would like for them to slide into the fold of Fortress Dakka. Just because they're going to see how well we are off. If the balloon goes up I want to crush them as quickly as possible and take out the shooters.
No doubt, I think most groups will either be families and their friends or poorly organized groups that will gladly join us or just won't care if the Dakka Repulic absorbs them. They probably wouldn't object to the sense of security that comes from regular militia patrols. But we'll undoubtedly face bandits and gangs as well, which we'll need to be sure we're prepped for.
There wil be no canabalism. No long pig BBQ, no pull thigh pork sandwiches, no cocksandwiches, nor actual "tea bags" If you die so be it. I divvy up your gear and personnel effect and find a use for your body. Of course I've no issue doing the insurgent thing and packing your body full of explosive and lying it on the road near a observation point
Jihadin wrote:There wil be no canabalism. No long pig BBQ, no pull thigh pork sandwiches, no cocksandwiches, nor actual "tea bags" If you die so be it. I divvy up your gear and personnel effect and find a use for your body. Of course I've no issue doing the insurgent thing and packing your body full of explosive and lying it on the road near a observation point
Now now. It's called Cremation. After all, what's stoping the Zombie plague from resurrecting the dead? Besides, it's not cannibalism if we're only using their bodies as fuel for a cooking fire. And that way, the dead are helping out one last time.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating cannibalism...but if for some reason things get bleak, and we're facing starvation...well...pass the hot sauce.
Make sure we get the name on who already volunteer...but do you really want to take that chance on catching the zombie virus? Ever ate bugs and worms? Field mice? Weiner dogs are around..
Besides every reserve and national guard armory have MRE's. Not many people know where to look for them.
Jihadin wrote:Make sure we get the name on who already volunteer...but do you really want to take that chance on catching the zombie virus? Ever ate bugs and worms? Field mice? Weiner dogs are around..
Well...If the zombie virus wasn't present in the body prior to death then it won't be there at all ( if we're going by ZSG rules).
Haven't eaten bugs or worms since I was a kid...but don't turn my nose up at " strange food"..field mice..nope...but I eat squirrel...which is just bushy tailed rat.
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corpsesarefun wrote:Distillation and the production of non-edible alcohol I can do, making something that actually tastes nice is slightly harder
corpsesarefun wrote:And now I can too, the process is pretty simple and a lot like cider making.
Yeah it's a pretty easy process, my Grandmother used to have tons of vines in her back yard and made the wine quite a bit....they can be used to make jam as well, and require very little care to grow.
@ Ahtman.... ...I love squirrel meat...so Daryl I shall be.
corpsesarefun wrote:Bodies are pretty crap fuel, you have to dry them out for them to burn well and that takes heat and time.
In most cases, the dead will probably have bled out pretty quickly, So a lot of the work will be done for us. And I said they'd make good -fuel- for a fire, not a good source of kindling. Once we get a good fire going, putting the prepared body of one of our honoured dead on it for fuel would be a pretty good idea.
corpsesarefun wrote:Bodies are pretty crap fuel, you have to dry them out for them to burn well and that takes heat and time.
In most cases, the dead will probably have bled out pretty quickly, So a lot of the work will be done for us. And I said they'd make good -fuel- for a fire, not a good source of kindling. Once we get a good fire going, putting the prepared body of one of our honoured dead on it for fuel would be a pretty good idea.
I'm good with this...when my time comes feel free to use me for fuel...just make sure the bastard that got me is burning somewhere as well.
I just realized, we need a storyteller and historian to chronicle and retell the tale of the fall of civilization and the rise of the Dakka Republic to future generations. After all, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. I'm a fairly decent writer, and I love history. I could easily document the D.R.'s rise, though my storytelling is a bit weak. We need a Scandinavian. Or at least someone of Scandinavian descent. Where's Shadowbrand when you need that red-bearded bastard?
Bodies are pretty crap fuel, you have to dry them out for them to burn well and that takes heat and time.
Time and heat I'm not sure we're willing to commit. So I'm for "fertilizer" or a IED...with 3rd rate weapons in view alongside of road in view of an OP. So when a "visitor" comes upon it...he/she will follow the directions to ensure we are safe before we start a dialogue. Besides...a body can be trading material to...example giving is True Grit....some survivor group going to have a dentist in need of teeth...I'm for fertilizer still..minus the teeth. We can grow quite a bit of food
Jihadin wrote:some survivor group going to have a dentist in need of teeth
Actually, that's an excellent point - assuming we'll have a certified surgeon or doctor, harvesting the (healthy) organs of the dead would be a great idea - once we occupy a facility with a fuctioning walk-in freezer. I can only imagine how many people would join us simply based on the fact that doing so would ensure them adequate healthcare.
I still think cremation should be -the- method for corpse disposal (remember how I brought up flamethrowers earlier? Yea, exactly) and that we use their pyre for practical purposes at the same time, but organ donation should be considered, provided the conditions of the person's death was not due to Zombie Plague, Radiation, or anything else high-risk. I think burials should be ruled out though - Because you just never know with Zombie Plagues.
You can't keep organs "on ice" for more than a few hours. You would be able to keep them alive longer using some kind of bioreactor, but they are really not available outside of research. Not to mention the problem of properly typing them and matching them to patients.
Phonebooks work. I seen a few insurgents try it. work reasonably well for 5.56mm but 7.62mm . Its only a temp stop gap measure. Complete body armors can be had for permanent use. Trust me...when the world goes to hell and your worry on catching a slug trying to get out of Dodge...your going have that thought cross your mind
SilverMK2 wrote:You can't keep organs "on ice" for more than a few hours. You would be able to keep them alive longer using some kind of bioreactor, but they are really not available outside of research. Not to mention the problem of properly typing them and matching them to patients.
Damnit! Forgot about the compatability part (Hence why... You know, I'm not a doctor )
Ahh well, take a page from Robert Pickton and use the organs of the dead for food for our pack of hunting wiener dogs and our livestock then. Pigs will eat anything.
Also, I want a couple of these for my personal riverine force.
A rear mounted .50, a forward twin .50 and I think an M60 somewhere.
NO, not because of apocalypse now. I knew about the riverines and Plastic patrol boats before I saw the movie. It just reinforced how cool they were.
Unfortunately, most of these particular boats are decommed, so we'd have to go with some more modern... Maybe this.
Why the hell does that boat need so many guns for. I'm not complaining. It's cool as hell. But really? That's a crew of at least five on a little itty bitty patrol boat! Be great for attacking a helicopter or blowing up a car in the apocalypse.
Jihadin wrote:Phonebooks work. I seen a few insurgents try it. work reasonably well for 5.56mm but 7.62mm . Its only a temp stop gap measure. Complete body armors can be had for permanent use. Trust me...when the world goes to hell and your worry on catching a slug trying to get out of Dodge...your going have that thought cross your mind
....Everything I've ever seen would suggest that attempting to use phone books as body armor would fail, I've witnessed complete penetration with 9MM's and couldn't even begin to imagine a phone book defeating a .223 or 7.62x39mm.
Plus, how much range of motion could one have with a bunch of phone books duct taped to them?
Yea, when they did it in Mythbusters, it was vehicle armour. So there was still that layer of sheet metal on the door that helped add some outer strength to the whole package. Doubt phone books would work well on a human, unless they were hardcover... Steel hardcover.
You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
WARORK93 wrote:You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
WARORK93 wrote:You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
... Again, it's an interesting concept...but I doubt that any cut of meat would do much in the way of defeating most rounds....would be pretty damn funny to watch someone try it though.
As an ex-tanker, my vote is NO apricots. Ever. Don't even mention them again.
They are evil and only bring bad luck.
Period.
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WARORK93 wrote:You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
... Again, it's an interesting concept...but I doubt that any cut of meat would do much in the way of defeating most rounds....would be pretty damn funny to watch someone try it though.
Especially when they meet (meat?) my bull terrier.
CptJake wrote:As an ex-tanker, my vote is NO apricots. Ever. Don't even mention them again.
One of the NCOs back in my BMQ was attached to the PPCLI in A'Stan. Had a story about a ride in the back of a LAVIII and one of the boys in his section had snacked on a bunch of dried apricots beforehand. I guess they have a tendancy to make people gassy, because he said it seemed like a really... really... reeeeally long ride
I also vote no apricots however apricot booze is a maybe.
As for the dead, it probably isn't wise to use them as fertiliser if they radiation, virus's or some kind of poisoning had a hand in their demise and as we don't really have any way of checking that it would be smarter to burn them.
I'm an average stereotypical teenager that uses Dakka. I'm probably very unhealthy, and have the body mass of a squirrel.
Having said that, I'm a (fairly) good aim (No, not because I play CoD) and can probably run fast enough in an emergency. I don't need a lot of food, and I could probably make myself fairly useful in minor errands and supportive roles (i.e. "Fetch me some ammo boy, I need to keep the gun manned!" kind of thing)
PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME TO DIE I WANT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrDwhitey wrote:At least I wouldn't be solo shortest then.
For my size, I'm a lanky [Person]
Oh, and I'm on the IOW, so getting mainland anywhere would be... fun [/sarcasm] And I don't think anyone actually even HAS a firearm here, let alone a store of such things.
And from his use of the word tactical (I hate this usage of the word) I assume he means a throwing tomahawk which isn't particularly useful anyway as you have to be pretty skilled and relatively strong to kill someone with one from a range and even then they are single use, once you kill a guy with one his mates will proceed to kill you.
corpsesarefun wrote:And from his use of the word tactical (I hate this usage of the word) I assume he means a throwing tomahawk which isn't particularly useful anyway as you have to be pretty skilled and relatively strong to kill someone with one from a range and even then they are single use, once you kill a guy with one his mates will proceed to kill you.
Well, yeah..I suppose one tactic ( tactical use) of a tomahawk could be to throw it...which as you pointed out would be a bit silly ( might " look cool" in movies, IRL...dumb move), but as a hand weapon, to be used to cleave skulls...I could see it's practical use.
EDIT:...In fact, much like a machete , I could see a tomahawk as a " multi-use" tool.
Tomahawks as a close combat weapon are great and are pretty easy to make; you can improvise one from some shaped and sharpened plate steel and a good thick bit of steel piping.
It won't be comfortable or pretty but it will do the job for a good while.
The problem with tomahawks and the like is that you have to get close to your opponents to use them. They're okay against human and animal targets, but what happens when you're fending off zombies and demons? I don't know about the rest of you, but in the apocalypse, I'm placing my confidence in my boomstick first when faced with the undead and inhuman hordes.
Yea, there's a reason bayonets/combat knives are still issued and trained with (Often times before your rifle is even issued). But again, Insurgents are human opponents. That's all good and well, but I'm not getting that close to the walking biohazards that are zombies if I can help it. Yea I might have to take the odd bat to one's face or something, but if I can put distance between myself and them, and then take my shot, I'm going to.
Maybe come up with a automatic tomahawk thrower? We really don't need the spin on them or blade in flesh first...just knock em off their feet...we could start studing the contraption they use in the Pumpkin Chunkin in Deleware for a idea
As for the leader for the UK group I'm sure you all can volunteer someone.
As for Liquid...well we do need to retrieve the tomahawks when they are down range...
Deathhead a tomahawk decent but a folding e-tool....much better...I admit though...a tomahawk mounted on a IBA/IOTV looks pretty cool.
Yep..that would confuse the Hell out of me on which way to aim it...either Liquid takes one in the chest while "behind" it or he needs to pick more then just one tomahawk while down range amidst ducking and dodging zombies/bullets/arrows/kitchen sink/volkswagon/boulders...and whatever else we can throw down range
Jihadin wrote:Someone going to forget to remove the ramming rod before fire
Yea militia will have a range for live weapons and a MOUT for CQC training with Airsoft rifles. That way we're not wasting as much live ammo on training, and we can have live targets in the MOUT to simulate armed enemies and zombies. Plus regular weapon handling, familiarization, and maintenance drills so I doubt that'll be an issue
If the country collapse...does that void the country itself? ie away with old gov't in with new?
As "Country" is more or less an " idea" and not an actual "thing" then so long as people " believe" in the idea it would still " exist"....even if the "machinery ( government)" no longer itself exist.
...Now, if your asking should attempts be made to " rebuild" the current system as it exist...then I'd say absolutely not...away with the old in with the new.
I suppose we could raid heavily defended military bases in the off chance politicians have holed up there purely to say "You're fired" before executing them.
I believe Djphranq offered himself on the previous page.
cannibalism is horribly bad. 
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