Take it with your pinch of salt but one of our game stores in Houston, Fat Ogre's, has actualy recieved an e-mail saying that GW is bumping the price up by tommorow.

Like I said, take it with a pinch of salt.

Its June 1...
And some of the prices Are insane...

Hope you all have stocked up on marine vehicles..
$82.50 for a stormraven
$74.25 for any of the Land raiders
$57 for the whirl winds
37.25 for the rhinos

Hmm... Really?

All we can do is wait and see.

And by all that is holy, that is expensive!

Cool name for a store!

TobyDog wrote:Its June 1...
And some of the prices Are insane...

Hope you all have stocked up on marine vehicles..
$82.50 for a stormraven
$74.25 for any of the Land raiders
$57 for the whirl winds
37.25 for the rhinos

Can you get me a source on that?

I have the list but will wait to post it..

TobyDog wrote:I have the list but won't post it

You just did! I saaaaaw it!

TobyDog wrote:I have the list but won't post it

Why not? Seems like you are simply posting to freak people out now.

I've seen the list also. I wanna know why there is this big of a price hike.

Gee, I wonder if that nice dividend that was paid out had anything to do with it?

(Joking!)

Thats oddly conflicting with what I read here

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=21979&page=2

What dividend are you talking about?

Well, if so many people have seen it, can SOMEONE post it?


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Lightcavalier wrote:Thats oddly conflicting with what I read here

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=21979&page=2

You have no idea how much I want that to be true.

The rhino costs more dollars than it's points! 35 point transport costs 37 dollars!

Im so glad I just buy FW...

Here is what I got in my e-mail, there's 15 pages so please bare with me.

Deacis657 wrote:Here is what I got in my e-mail, there's 15 pages so please bare with me.

Out of curiosity, why did you get this email? Do you own a store?

Holy hell, that's a lot.

Happygrunt wrote:

Deacis657 wrote:Here is what I got in my e-mail, there's 15 pages so please bare with me.

Out of curiosity, why did you get this email? Do you own a store?

Sorry, 17 pages.

I got this from a friend that know's people who has stores. so I cannot directly confirm if this information is true; But people were requesting the spreadsheet.

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

This is appropriate methinks: http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

82.5 for a stormraven? That has got to be an error.

Wow. This game is getting way to expensive anymore.

haroon wrote:82.5 for a stormraven? That has got to be an error.

Good thing I quit Blood Angels and hate Grey Knights. I'm hoping this price sheet is wrong-also, the writing is so small I can't read it. And my old chemistry teacher wonders why all his sodium chloride went missing back when I was in HS....

Please believe me while I may have supplied the spreadsheet I got, I really hope this isnt true like the BOLS thread is saying.

timetowaste85 wrote:

haroon wrote:82.5 for a stormraven? That has got to be an error.

Good thing I quit Blood Angels and hate Grey Knights. I'm hoping this price sheet is wrong-also, the writing is so small I can't read it. And my old chemistry teacher wonders why all his sodium chloride went missing back when I was in HS....

Honestly, I think this is fake.

Happygrunt wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

haroon wrote:82.5 for a stormraven? That has got to be an error.

Good thing I quit Blood Angels and hate Grey Knights. I'm hoping this price sheet is wrong-also, the writing is so small I can't read it. And my old chemistry teacher wonders why all his sodium chloride went missing back when I was in HS....

Honestly, I think this is fake.

Man I hope!

I've also been going some more though the BOLS. the more I read it the more I agree with you Happy.

its crazy but i wouldnt put it past GW (sadly...)

I really think this is fake.
But if not I have to congratulate GW, just when I though they couldn't possibly do anything else to stop me from buying from them, they've done. Congratz GW.

It would put Tyranid Warriors into the £10 p/m range, rather than a mere £8.33 each

:| might be true

If this is true then I've bought my last GW models for a long time.

Deacis657 wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:

haroon wrote:82.5 for a stormraven? That has got to be an error.

Good thing I quit Blood Angels and hate Grey Knights. I'm hoping this price sheet is wrong-also, the writing is so small I can't read it. And my old chemistry teacher wonders why all his sodium chloride went missing back when I was in HS....

Honestly, I think this is fake.

Man I hope!

I've also been going some more though the BOLS. the more I read it the more I agree with you Happy.

If Mikhillia (or however you spell his name, he runs a store and is on dakka) or Reece from Frontline gaming tell me there will be a price rise, with the docs to prove it, I would believe them. But we have the guy from bits Barn calling BS, and spikey bits looks like it is just trying to drive up sales.

Wow,Is Gw actually slowly pricing themselves out bussiness?

Somebody is gonna get a FALSE tomorrow on the rumor monger thread.

pretre wrote:Somebody is gonna get a FALSE tomorrow on the rumor monger thread.

Well, seeing as how I was just posting on opinion, I think I know what is happening.

Hit them hard pretre. If they lied, they gave a couple users heart attacks over possible increased costs of our plastic-crack. Don't hold any punches-let their moms feel the pain!

If by 'hit them hard' you mean im going to put their name, a link to the rumor and the word FALSE next to it, then sure.

pretre wrote:If by 'hit them hard' you mean im going to put their name, a link to the rumor and the word FALSE next to it, then sure.

And then drive them before you and hear the lamentations of their women?

Oh Man! I wanted to post before the rage quitters!

I can't wait to see the final tally this year.

I only supplied what people asked for! lol.

Holy gak!

82.50 for a stormraven?! Sheesh....

I call BS on this rumor, but even if it "happens" to be true, I thankfully have a FLGS that sells at well below retail, usually 30%.

pretre wrote:If by 'hit them hard' you mean im going to put their name, a link to the rumor and the word FALSE next to it, then sure.

I was gonna let you borrow my bazooka, tank, a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire (for them to sit on) and blowgun, but sure, putting their name a link and "FALSE" next to them sounds about equal.

Well from a guy who was looking to play again I am now priced out of the game.

Almost 100 dollars with tax for a Storm Raven and 60 bucks for a Predator? Holy crap and jesus. Who can pay that really? It was terrible before but now its just ridiculous.

Is the price adjustment announcement scheduled for tomorrow or do the actual prices go up tomorrow?

CajunMan550 wrote:Well from a guy who was looking to play again I am now priced out of the game.

Almost 100 dollars with tax for a Storm Raven and 60 bucks for a Predator? Holy crap and jesus. Who can pay that really? It was terrible before but now its just ridiculous.

Calm down there, pal. Right now it is just a suspicious rumor.

pretre wrote:

CajunMan550 wrote:Well from a guy who was looking to play again I am now priced out of the game.

Almost 100 dollars with tax for a Storm Raven and 60 bucks for a Predator? Holy crap and jesus. Who can pay that really? It was terrible before but now its just ridiculous.

Calm down there, pal. Right now it is just a suspicious rumor.

Calm down there pal I was talking about if this is true.

warboss wrote:Is the price adjustment announcement scheduled for tomorrow or do the actual prices go up tomorrow?

GW doesn't announce price adjustments. They just hope you don't notice.

Whatever the case, I have all I need from GW unless Chaos is a good release.

CajunMan550 wrote:

pretre wrote:

CajunMan550 wrote:Well from a guy who was looking to play again I am now priced out of the game.

Almost 100 dollars with tax for a Storm Raven and 60 bucks for a Predator? Holy crap and jesus. Who can pay that really? It was terrible before but now its just ridiculous.

Calm down there, pal. Right now it is just a suspicious rumor.

Calm down there pal I was talking about if this is true.

Ahh, so thats what you were doing. Interested in a slightly used bridge in Brooklyn?

I dont believe most of the rumers, However.....

I was at Hard Knox games tonight and the owner Wayne got the email from his GW rep and red it to us in the store. It had the same pricing as whats posted here.

At the 10% average price increase we'll be looking at $100 land raiders in about 3 years.

Hold on, hold on one sec. Could this spreadsheet be of Australian prices? Could easily passed of as U.S. prices.

Nope. Its not aussie prices. You people are complaining about an eighty five dollar stormraven...http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440165a&prodId=prod900149a&rootCatGameStyle= hundred and ten. No joke.

It says USD.

I cant wait for this to be debunked. I own an independent retail store (no, I refuse to name it to avoid trouble if im wrong , and I have recieved no email from my GW Trade Account rep. To further add to this, I just up to the Module 2 (if you dont know, dont ask) and their is no price increase. Seriously, people how do you live with yourself making these wild rumors?

What's next?...Games Workshop just announced it is moving away from plastic and revolutionizing the industry yet again with paper mache models! Yes! Mod's need to do their job and start banning these people that do that...only wish I could rage quit the internet...alas, I cannot.

To bad there isnt away to vet the sources of these rumors. Like how ebay has its customer rating, Dakka should have a BS rating for people, the lower the number the more truthful it is, the higher it is the more likely its unwashed Tommy, living in granny's basement.

Yay, Rhinos now officially cost more $ then they cost in points

jspyd3rx wrote:Hold on, hold on one sec. Could this spreadsheet be of Australian prices? Could easily passed of as U.S. prices.

Only if they're giving us a price drop.

For example, we already pay $110au for Land Raiders. I'd love Carnifexes being $53.50au rather than $83au too.

What you see as a shocking price incease is what we were paying over 5 years ago.

I should have invested my money in stormravens

Glad I already bought mine and that I don't need anything else for my 40k armies.

My poor poor WoC though. I'm gonna need to get some new shiny soon

This seems a touch steep to be believable as is (I'd hate to see the likely $150 Storm Ravens to go with it here... ), I'd rather see the start of an annual price balancing where they simply balance all the prices based on the country's currency strength at the start of each financial year or two; taking into account shipping and running stores as well of course.

Yeah, I shouldn't have to pick between starting a family and my hobby

Get a clue people. There is no price increase.

Aussie's sucks that you are hit so hard. Why GW doesnt open a factory there I dont know, works well in the US.

Dayvuni wrote:The rhino costs more dollars than it's points! 35 point transport costs 37 dollars!

My Rhino's cost me 50 points Black Templars ftw :(
on other things, if there is a price hike it's been in the works for a while now surely? new finecasts and with 6th, don't GW do a price hike every few years also =[

If this turns out to be accurate, my impending return to the hobby has just been cancelled.

Sup Privateer Press. Oh looks Dust Tactics has some nice stuff as well...

Father Gabe wrote:Get a clue people. There is no price increase.

Though you can see how some would instantly believe anything concerning it around this time of the year as they seem to do it every year.

Assuming these rates are real, I find it interesting how only the Vanilla book, Black Templars and Tau are going up in price but no other codices. Is this a sign of what's next in line?

Father Gabe wrote:Get a clue people. There is no price increase.

Aussie's sucks that you are hit so hard. Why GW doesnt open a factory there I dont know, works well in the US.

Because they don't want us to pay less. IIRC< Wells talked about this in the financial report a while ago, and the reason for the embargo. They want Australians to be paying the Australian prices in Australian dollars, because they're making a fortune off of us.

Remind me again, whats stopping 3rd party retailers taking advantage of this price discrepency from "smuggling" cheap GW products into Oz through the mail?

No idea, Wayland mentioned setting it up then nothing so must have been shut down. I suppose if these prices do become more close to ours, we can hope Canada stays the same and move onto there maybe.

Then when all that fails there's simple green and eBay.

I doubt anyone will believe me if they don't believe this already. The price changes are real. They are going into effect Monday June 4th. I work at a module 2 store and got this from our rep today.

Grey Templar wrote:Remind me again, whats stopping 3rd party retailers taking advantage of this price discrepency from "smuggling" cheap GW products into Oz through the mail?

Pretty sure that would actually be illegal smuggling.
I believe if you want to import goods for sale then you have to legally declare that (and pay associated taxes), which GW could become aware of, and that 3rd party would be breaching their agreements.
Plus it requires them to set up a distribution centre, employ staff, incorporate a company...

I think this price list is fake, but I wouldn't be surprised if its not.

If this is true I'm moving to Canada for four years! Wait...

SlaveToDorkness wrote:If this is true I'm moving to Canada for four years! Wait...

I lol'd.

I can see places like Dicebucket becoming more attractive for Aussies if they weren't already.

$150au for a Stormraven... I can't see them selling anything anymore.

Well, if the 12%-15% increase in prices are correct, it may have finally reached the tipping point for most players. There is high quality models on the internet that will beat out the new prices. I'll be sad to see 6th edition bomb while they price themselves out of the market, because that may start a steep decline in Games-Workshop's going concern.

Scibor Models better be ready for some new customers =D

Oh this is quite silly.

How the hate flows. How it spreads!

Trust me gents, there won't be a price hike tomorrow. And if there is, well, I'll sing a song selected by the first person to respond and put it on Derpa.

its funny how I don't actually buy anything anymore. hahaha. good luck everyone!

Chowderhead wrote:Oh this is quite silly.

How the hate flows. How it spreads!

Trust me gents, there won't be a price hike tomorrow. And if there is, well, I'll sing a song selected by the first person to respond and put it on Derpa.

"When I think About You [I Touch Myself]"

Does this mean you sing it if he's right?

pretre wrote:Somebody is gonna get a FALSE tomorrow on the rumor monger thread.

Father Gabe wrote:Get a clue people. There is no price increase.

Aussie's sucks that you are hit so hard. Why GW doesnt open a factory there I dont know, works well in the US.

My FLGS confirmed this. They got the same email. This isn't April 1st. The hike isn't tomorrow though, at least as far as he knew.

It's insane.

Yeah, until GW or at least Mikhaila confirms, I'm gonna pass.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Oh this is quite silly.

How the hate flows. How it spreads!

Trust me gents, there won't be a price hike tomorrow. And if there is, well, I'll sing a song selected by the first person to respond and put it on Derpa.

"When I think About You [I Touch Myself]"

Business Time by Flight of the Concords

GW has gotten so expensive that now I simply look towards Forgeworld for most of my future purchases now!

Even if this price increase is true, that is still going to be the case.

While I haven't read it yet, there's an e-mail regarding this year's price increase sitting in our company inbox. I'm inclined to believe this one.

I don't really see how people are thinking this is likely fake. They've done it the last few years, why should this year be any different?

Yep, just read the e-mail. It's real alright.

But really, wont this just drive more and more of GW customers to FLGS and other non GW shops that sell the product at near close to cost?

Like every year, leading to the following year's price increase.

It's going to be so surreal seeing Land Raiders at about $150au.

It's an interesting price increase. The prices that jumped like a crazy man were mainly heavy support type choices. Transports all seem to be 37.50 now which is interesting. But heavy tanks and heavy flyers are where the cash went. Troops mostly only went up like $1.25 per box or not at all. Core stuff didn't move much. It's the heavy vehicles that most people don't buy more than 1-2 of that jumped....

So when will the website update? Midnight?

Bluetau wrote:So when will the website update? Midnight?

As said a few times, this'll be a June 1st update if it happens. They're not going to do it on a random week night.

I don't see why everyone is so suspicious of this - real or not, it's broadly in line with what they do every year.

I.e. in the 10%ish range, with a few whoppers thrown in there. I'm surprised to see battallions going up again (after having had a signifigant increase last year).

It's more or less what I was expecting .Though if you add in some of the crazy fine-casting price hikes of late - it seems like an especially rough year.

Oh got it!

Theres still time to go out and scoop up a stormraven and land raider!

even if they did raise prices I can understand it. GW is a publicly traded company. They have boss's (the stockholders) they have to answer to. Costs have gone up. Labor, gas, price of material, lawyer fee's, transportation, R&D. etc etc. Every year these thing go up between 3 to 5% each on average. Now in order to make that money up they must raise there prices by 7 to 10% on MSRP because GW sells there product to the retailers at roughly at a 45% reduction. Now I know what your saying that if they lower there prices they would sell more models in bulk, etc etc etc. This is true but not enough to make profit to keep the stockholders happy. The per unit profit on each item for GW is probally 5% per model after all costs.

Btw GW is not the only company to raise there prices.

Yep, just over a week. Quite possibly a plan on their part, though unlikely.

GW are their own retailers, hence the added cost of production and the likely cause of these yearly increases.

I'm glad Australians can still use Dicebucket at least.

I've still got some shopping to do for my Tyranids. Though I think my Vampire Counts are on the serious backburner for now.

TobyDog wrote:Its June 1...
And some of the prices Are insane...

Hope you all have stocked up on marine vehicles..
$82.50 for a stormraven
$74.25 for any of the Land raiders
$57 for the whirl winds
37.25 for the rhinos

$30 for ten Guardsmen

And I get a ridiculous amount of from GW employees for buying the starter models.

GW employee wrote:For only 12 dollars more you get all the options!

Yeah, I save $12 by not buying the overpriced box. Maybe for Space Marines, it would be reasonable. Not for something you need an indefinite number of..

30 squads for $30: $900
30 squads for $18: $540

-Loki- wrote:

Bluetau wrote:So when will the website update? Midnight?

As said a few times, this'll be a June 1st update if it happens. They're not going to do it on a random week night.

The e-mail sez June 4th. Buy your cheaper models while you still can (preferably from us ).

If this is true then my all-metal Valhallan infantry horde army looks decidedly affordable.

Remember comrades:

When in doubt, eBay.

if this is true...lets just say I'm glad I went to infinity when i did

Take this with a grain of salt but my local store owner just confirmed the price increase IS true. He just got the email and I'd link the convo from Facebook but I don't know if he'd get in trouble or not

Im not too worried, Ill just rely on my FLGS 100% for purchases or even start buying off of the swap shop here.

Not a single box in his store is the GW recommended price... my little honey hole of model goodness.

If this is true, then I think I've finally been priced out of Warhammer. I'll likely keep my armies and continue playing, but I wouldn't want to pay these prices even with the 25% discount and free shipping I get from MM. Eighty-plus dollars for a Stormraven is a slap in the face. I really wanted to start a Chaos Marines army when the new codex came out later this year...

A price hike right before 6E? NO! I sit here with a stunned shocked look!


Phew....

Ah well thank god I dont buy from GW Stores and go online for my 20% OFF sites...

Still 20% off of Ridiculous still equals Insane.

I'm expecting my first historical minis - TAG early samurai and mongols - to arrive any day now which, when coupled with this news, may just push me away from GW and solely into historicals as a guy who paints and doesn't play. I can still see myself picking up FW from time-to-time as I love their HH era models, but the prices are already high and, with the finecast issues, I'm reluctant to even order outside of .au to save money due to the hassles that will occur shoud I have to exchange the model due to imperfections.

@Milisim: A price hike right before a new edition would actually be a bad move, since it could flat out stop people even looking at it; saving it until a month or so in, perhaps even until the new starter set for it comes out, gives people time to acclimatise and spend money on preparing their armies for it now that they know what the new rules are.

If Microsoft announced all X-Box games would increase in price by £10 just before releasing the next-gen X-Box console, how many people would buy into it as opposed to announcing it after the new console has come out and after people have already bought it?

Avatar 720 wrote:A price hike right before a new edition would actually be a bad move, since it could flat out stop people even looking at it; saving it until a month or so in, perhaps even until the new starter set for it comes out, gives people time to acclimatise and spend money on preparing their armies for it now that they know what the new rules are.

If Microsoft announced all X-Box games would increase in price by £10 just before releasing the next-gen X-Box console, how fewer people would buy into it as opposed to announcing it after the new console has come out and after people have already bought it?

The fact that GW makes dumb moves is not in dispute.

pretre wrote:Yeah, until GW or at least Mikhaila confirms, I'm gonna pass.

Feel free to add me to your thread on Rumormonger accuracy. I will get a 100% true next to my name in a few weeks.

-Loki- wrote:

Bluetau wrote:So when will the website update? Midnight?

As said a few times, this'll be a June 1st update if it happens. They're not going to do it on a random week night.

Ya, no. It's the 4th. I went to my FLGS just now and read the email myself.

So glad I gave this company and it's games up...

OverwatchCNC wrote:

pretre wrote:Yeah, until GW or at least Mikhaila confirms, I'm gonna pass.

Feel free to add me to your thread on Rumormonger accuracy. I will get a 100% true next to my name in a few weeks.

Throw me on there as well. I could use a 100% for when I start absurd rumors about Alpha Legion.

Wow... What a way to deter new comers, i can barely convince my friends now to start playing let alone a price hike! sure they need to cover expenses but you cant do that when 50% of your customers stop buying... and who shops at a GW store anymore anyway? lol sure i may play there but ill never buy from them. Midas well just bend over...

There are no percentages anymore and I don't know if we will count all the pile ons on this one. Not really a rumor anymore. Either it is true or a really good hoax.

Laughing Man wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

pretre wrote:Yeah, until GW or at least Mikhaila confirms, I'm gonna pass.

Feel free to add me to your thread on Rumormonger accuracy. I will get a 100% true next to my name in a few weeks.

Throw me on there as well. I could use a 100% for when I start absurd rumors about Alpha Legion.

I heard they're changing the name the to Beta Legion.

Not to mention none of you have added anything new, just confirmed the original.

haroon wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:A price hike right before a new edition would actually be a bad move, since it could flat out stop people even looking at it; saving it until a month or so in, perhaps even until the new starter set for it comes out, gives people time to acclimatise and spend money on preparing their armies for it now that they know what the new rules are.

If Microsoft announced all X-Box games would increase in price by £10 just before releasing the next-gen X-Box console, how fewer people would buy into it as opposed to announcing it after the new console has come out and after people have already bought it?

The fact that GW makes dumb moves is not in dispute.

I didn't say that GW makes dumb moves (I was actually responding to Milism and didn't notice someone posted before me), and I don't think they're going through with it. I was just stating how bad of a move it'd be overall.

Do we have any confirmation that this price increase could also affect GW prices around the world?

If we all truly believe it is fake, then it will be
-The Secret

Laughing Man wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:

pretre wrote:Yeah, until GW or at least Mikhaila confirms, I'm gonna pass.

Feel free to add me to your thread on Rumormonger accuracy. I will get a 100% true next to my name in a few weeks.

Throw me on there as well. I could use a 100% for when I start absurd rumors about Alpha Legion.

Nice, anything dealing with rumors about Alpha Legion though should be false by nature. In fact, I heard that Alpha Legion aren't in the new CSM dex because Alpha Legion has taken over all the Chapters, so the new C:SM is really just C: Alpha Legion.

pretre wrote:Not to mention none of you have added anything new, just confirmed the original.

Ya, I wasn't serious.

As another returning gamer, I've been keeping myself in a holding pattern in regards to purchases until 6th edition comes out. However, should these price increases prove to be true, no way will I shell out any money to GW, I'll just find another game (Dust Warfare anyone?) to satisfy my tabletop fix....That said, I'm not one to believe in rumors, no matter how valid they sound.

Diezel wrote:If we all truly believe it is fake, then it will be
-The Secret

I refuse to believe.

In what you're peddling.

Avatar 720 wrote:I didn't say that GW makes dumb moves (I was actually responding to Milism and didn't notice someone posted before me), and I don't think they're going through with it. I was just stating how bad of a move it'd be overall.

If the amount of people that buy at the new prices creates more revenue than they lose of the people who stop (which wouldn't surprise me), it's a sound business move. Short term.

Long term? I'm not nearly so sure. It's all well and good to say that prices are always increased annually, but it will, if it hasn't already, reach a point where it's no longer a viable option as far as hobbies go to lump an extra 7-10% on top. Charging a price where only the current fanatics will buy is probably OK (financially) as far as your current fan base goes, but in 5 years, 10 years, etc.? Where are the new fans going to come from?

Even short term it'd be a bad move, since it'd rely on the immediate increase to generate enough profit to recoup losses suffered by alienating another section of playerbase, and to do so in the opening few months, otherwise keeping the prices consistent and then introducing the increase a month or so after 6th edition release is still the better plan, even short term.

All my gaming group is moving to Infinity, just when i was finishing my Space Wolves army. If that prove to be true i will probably quit GW part of the hobby, and start to do only the funny things... Plus, infinity is a lot easyer to convince people to try, have less miniatures to paint, and is a lot more fun to make terrain for...

[quote= Plus, infinity is a lot easyer to convince people to try, have less miniatures to paint, and is a lot more fun to make terrain for...

Avatar 720 wrote:Even short term it'd be a bad move, since it'd rely on the immediate increase to generate enough profit to recoup losses suffered by alienating another section of playerbase, and to do so in the opening few months, otherwise keeping the prices consistent and then introducing the increase a month or so after 6th edition release is still the better plan, even short term.

You've got it all wrong. This price hike is to recoup the losses they made when they did the last price hike...

Well, I don't even know what to do...

Anyone play Infinity in the Seattle area?

Never thought paintball would be cheaper then this...

I do very good for myself but they are even pricing me out of the hobby. How can anyone justify a 82 dollar purchase for a storm raven? It's starting to become higher the an average bill. It's coming to the point that this is a luxury good but when it,comes to other luxury goods I can spend my money on that and receive higher value.

they have a player data base on the infinity forums it shows where all the members are

http://www.infinitythegame.com

just go there and click on community

IF, IF, IF this is true.... I will NOT be buying anymore GW models from anywhere other than EBAY.

I would love to keep supporting my FLGS, but folks, 20% off , is INSANE!

I have put too much in to just quit outright, but I definitely won't be expanding or investing in new armies. And the Chaos rumors were really starting to tempt me.... Your loss GW.

Just wanted to point out the price increase of books, as well.

It's what, now - $45.50 for one of their hardback army books? And I'll bet we'll be seeing that in 40k 6th edition as well.

That's insane.

infinite_array wrote:Just wanted to point out the price increase of books, as well.

It's what, now - $45.50 for one of their hardback army books? And I'll bet we'll be seeing that in 40k 6th edition as well.

That's insane.

Books that started at what was it - $38? all of 13, 14 months ago when they first came out.

Well, TheBitzBarn, which was the strong opponent to this rumor on the linked BOLS forum, then confirmed a price adjustment on the very next page:

TheBitzBarn wrote:NEW Info There is a Price "Adjustment" I will post the spreadsheet in a new topic and I have to say it is CRAP Tastic

Diezel wrote:If we all truly believe it is fake, then it will be
-The Secret

My source confirms USA price increase.

No increase for Canadians, OTHER THEN the fliers and some misc items.
But generally we are safe this time.

SickSix wrote:Well, TheBitzBarn, which was the strong opponent to this rumor on the linked BOLS forum, then confirmed a price adjustment on the very next page:

TheBitzBarn wrote:NEW Info There is a Price "Adjustment" I will post the spreadsheet in a new topic and I have to say it is CRAP Tastic

Yea read that. We all knew that the yearly "pound of flesh" was coming. I just don't think people realized the amount of the increase.

I sort of did as I saw the price creep all year long on new product.

As far as people saying that Ebay is your answer? Well to me the prices of product are going up there as well.

In each case, it is whatever the market will bare.

Please don't make posts like this on Dakka.

Reds8n

Luckily I have a large back log of gw models collecting dust. Knew it would pay off eventually

-Loki- wrote:It's going to be so surreal seeing Land Raiders at about $150au.

A 35% price increase? I can't believe that.

So glad I bought 3 LR this past year. This is insane! I need to grab bits now to finish my 4th one off. GW is so stupid sometimes.

I wouldn't be suprised if people start casting these and selling them underground. I have heard of people doing that with Scarabs since they were so scarce.

It's amazing how backwards GW is. They keep outdoing themselves in this regard.

I'll just be downloading the codecies I guess if they are going to cost that much.

Dark Eldar codex is 55 dollars.

WHAT?

I bought one last week for 33... and even that was pushing it.

I just wrote an email to Gw. I know it's not going to accomplish anything immediately, but they need to know how dissatisfied we are.

Looking at the price increases in detail, the shock isn't as hard to take as I once thought.

The biggest thing is the Stormtalon that jumps in price considerably.

The line of Predators and Whirlwinds and anything that basically is a Rhino based body goes up almost ten dollars in price.

But if we are to expect a 10% increase every year, by 2015, the Land Raider will be almost 100 USD and a Predator around 75 USD.

SickSix wrote:Well, TheBitzBarn, which was the strong opponent to this rumor on the linked BOLS forum, then confirmed a price adjustment on the very next page:

Lol, they're probably wishing right about now that they didn't call the people posting the news of the price increase flaming douche bags...

Haha! These prices are outrageous.

tldr wrote:Dark Eldar codex is 55 dollars.

WHAT?

I bought one last week for 33... and even that was pushing it.

Where are you getting that price from? Did you just go to the GW Oz website or something?

Some of these price increases are ridiculous. The Razorback is 41 dollars now and the Stormraven is over 80? Is GW crazy? That's ridiculous. Even the Baneblade went up for no reason..

Maybe the GW Board actually hate hobbyists, and they like to toy with their food before going in for the kill.

Red Comet wrote: Even the Baneblade went up for no reason..

The Baneblade kit went up about 15%. Almost as bad as the Stormtalon.

Is there a correlation between the amount of plastic these models have and the dramatic price increases some of these model kits seem to be getting?

infinite_array wrote:Gee, I wonder if that nice dividend that was paid out had anything to do with it?

Please.... this is for the second half of 2012 dividend

Has there been any confirmation it's hitting anywhere else in the world? Some of the prices don't make sense. The fantasy plastic heroes are going up to $14.75, but they just announced a plastic savage orc hero for $14.00.

Well not going to affect me. Have a closet full of figs to paint anyways.

But for those raging, don't jump right away into a new game. There are enough alternatives out there that you have choices:
Warmachine/Hordes
Dust
Infinity
Kings of War/Warpath
Uncharted Seas/Dystopian Wars

warboss wrote:

SickSix wrote:Well, TheBitzBarn, which was the strong opponent to this rumor on the linked BOLS forum, then confirmed a price adjustment on the very next page:

Lol, they're probably wishing right about now that they didn't call the people posting the news of the price increase flaming douche bags...

I believe they will find your avatar quite suiting...

OT I know, but is there a good place to go for a quick summary on Infinity - basic rules, the different factions, etc.? Models look fantastic.

It's like GW has finally realised that their products are overpriced in Australia compared to the rest of the world.

...And are fixing it by raising the prices everywhere else.

The depressing thing is that with The Hobbit coming out this and next year, they'll probably see a nice pile of profit despite the continuous price rises.

Maybe they're preparing for the bubble to burst by raising prices so they can drop them again later? Bah, who am I kidding...

Sigh... well that's going to be me effectively priced out of the hobby if there are price increases in the UK as well.

I get that there must be massive costs running a company when the prices of petrol, raw products and everything else is going up, but the price increases are just going too far, they are becoming an elitist hobby. The average person does not have hundreds of £££ to just blow on plastic miniatures.

Cheexsta wrote:It's like GW has finally realised that their products are overpriced in Australia compared to the rest of the world.

...And are fixing it by raising the prices everywhere else.

Well, I guess they finally found a good way to stop people in .au buying from overseas... assuming they don't do the same here.

Groundh0g wrote:OT I know, but is there a good place to go for a quick summary on Infinity - basic rules, the different factions, etc.? Models look fantastic.

Check out the Infinity sub-forum here on dakka: plenty of links to gameplay anf faction info. Think some of the stickies have all you need.

As for me? Quite happy I quit GW last year (or the year before? I don't know as I had not been buying anything from them for some time...).

Infinity to rule them all!

I stopped buying GW after the last price hike and switched to Malifaux (and now Infinity too). The Price hike is great for GWs competition and miniature makers as a market. Sucks ass for any hardcore GW fan.

Thank god for ebay and the trade shop. I almost want GW to fail miserably so they can get their heads out of their asses.

Groundh0g wrote:

Cheexsta wrote:It's like GW has finally realised that their products are overpriced in Australia compared to the rest of the world.

...And are fixing it by raising the prices everywhere else.

Well, I guess they finally found a good way to stop people in .au buying from overseas... assuming they don't do the same here.

Or they could of lowered the Au prices... but that would of been too much of the sensible option for GW

For anyone who believes that GW can justify it by saying it is due to increasing costs in production should look at the other manufacturers out there for historicals, Perry, Warlord, Gripping Beast, Fireforge. You definately get way more bang for your buck in terms of the amount of raw materials that would have to go into it. If it is the distribution side of things that is causing prices to go up then that is GW's fault, they should have economy of scale on their side, so if they can't manage to be at least as efficient as those other companies it's their own fault.

When I first started in Feb of 2011 I was paying $90 for an IG Battleforce, and now there $110 and about to be $120. Yikes...

ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:When I first started in Feb of 2011 I was paying $90 for an IG Battleforce, and now there $110 and about to be $120. Yikes...

Serious? +33% in 16 months?

lol, perfect reason to move in to Warhordes!

Pretty much every 16 months as well.

Why do you folks complain and then keep buying their stupid-ass games? The models are cool, the games are not good. There are a LOT of good games out there - Warmachine, Hordes, and Malifaux being a few that I've tried, and LOVED - with good companies that care about their customers and communicate.

Don't go sell your models tomorrow, but get a demo in at a local store with a game that looks cool to you. It might be enough.

I know I was in and out of 40k within four months, because I didn't like the game and the prices were crazy.

Will people be defending GW this year too?

Probably... count me out of GW when ever Canada gets hit again.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=16600002a

This month we will be increasing the price of some of our products. This price change will take effect from May 28th

At time of writing this has 100 "likes" on Facebook.

Proof that people are stupid?

Also, no one's posted this yet: BOLS (front page, not the forum) confirms the rumor.

Wasn't any need to.

Groundh0g wrote:OT I know, but is there a good place to go for a quick summary on Infinity - basic rules, the different factions, etc.? Models look fantastic.

If you go to the infinity website you can download the quickstart rules for free which explains all the basics.

On topic if this is true GW are insane. While yes things do get more expensive this latest rise is just not of this world. Are GW trying to price themselves out. Games like infinity, warmahordes, malifaux while yeah figure costs are the same you need dramatically less.

Any news on U.K. prices, wayland games etc know anything?

reds8n wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=16600002a

This month we will be increasing the price of some of our products. This price change will take effect from May 28th

At time of writing this has 100 "likes" on Facebook.

Possibilities....

100 GW drone staff
100 Investors

SUPER!!

Another possible solution is all of those and a few cases of this.

My cat does that. All the time.

As does my newest one. Meaning I have to lock the PC if I go afk, as when I get back it'll be sitting there staring at the screen pressing random buttons.

This is going beyond a joke.

Seriously, what are they increasing in price?

The increase in quality, Fine Cast is amazing!

Waiting to see the translation to the UK prices, but I'm shocked I'm saying this, that might be the line crossed.

I'd still play with what I've got, but I'll not be starting any new armies if the price raises are as stupid as they sound.

Well thankfully today is payday, sad thing is that I was looking into expanding my newly acquired Necrons. Might not be able if this hike is what the shape of things to come are.

Just Wondering...? On the 3rd large page of the prices posted is Apocalypse Reload and it's new listed price. I thought this book was out of print. - Curious. - It hasn't been available on the US GW site for well over 6 months. Why would they raise the price of something they no longer sell. Like I already asked..........just wondering.......?

Puscifer wrote:Well thankfully today is payday, sad thing is that I was looking into expanding my newly acquired Necrons. Might not be able if this hike is what the shape of things to come are.

According to GW, the customer's monthly budget is always the same.
Thus they say as long as you spend that whole budget into GW product, they really dont care if your budget can end up with 1 squad or just 1 mini

Glad I took advantage of the Wayland free postage deal and ordered the Tervigon and two Chimeras yesterday, might be the last thing I might buy in a while.

Will probably get sixth, but chatting with Aurelia we are canning the new armies off the new starter box idea, and probably won't bother getting a box at all. Just pick up a small rulebook off ebay.

AHAHAHAHAHAH

Cool, this will make selling my remaining GW armies to fund Dropzone Commander allot easier to accomplish! Poor, poor GW fanboys, first the failcrap debacle and now this on top! You guys look more like abused spouses every day!

The price increase date on the GW site is 28th May - Has the price increase been brought forward a week to punish the interwebz?

Do we have details on the increase in the UK?

Putting it up two days before pay day is a real kick in the teeth.

If they keep increasing prices, I'll just stop going for miniatures altogether. No other game currently has an army I like the aesthetics of and no decent historical game has the Pacific front.

LunaHound wrote:

Puscifer wrote:Well thankfully today is payday, sad thing is that I was looking into expanding my newly acquired Necrons. Might not be able if this hike is what the shape of things to come are.

According to GW, the customer's monthly budget is always the same.
Thus they say as long as you spend that whole budget into GW product, they really dont care if your budget can end up with 1 squad or just 1 mini

I've said it before, but I think that GW's ultimate goal is to sell a single blister to a single person for about £15m every year...

Yeah the UK price changes is what I need to see, if its as bad as it looks, I can see Corvus Belli gaining from me if this is right.

Fortunately I still have plenty of Orks and Guard to paint, and I think Mordheim will become a focus again.

A beer drinking buddy of mine runs the local GW. I'll ask him today and post up later.

Also notable (as it is one of the most popular selections of the book) is that in USD the Necron CCB will cost more than a box of Necron Warriors after the increase.

Right now, in Euros, it costs 26,- compared to 30,- for the warriors.

Hans Chung-Otterson wrote:Why do you folks complain and then keep buying their stupid-ass games? The models are cool, the games are not good. There are a LOT of good games out there - Warmachine, Hordes, and Malifaux being a few that I've tried, and LOVED - with good companies that care about their customers and communicate.

Don't go sell your models tomorrow, but get a demo in at a local store with a game that looks cool to you. It might be enough.

I know I was in and out of 40k within four months, because I didn't like the game and the prices were crazy.

Speaking personally - I play 40k because my friends play 40k, and they aren't interested at all in another game.

I'm trying to get them to buy a starter pack each for Infinity, but it's like pulling fething teeth.

Anything larger than Infinity (the main draw I can get them to see is it's about $100au for a whole 'army') and it's too expensive. Huh, funny that. Even Warmahordes is too expensive.

I also don't want to get into the local Warmahordes scene, since it is by the admission of someone I know who plays it with locals, comprised entirely of TFGs in my area. Every. Single. Person.

So it's play 40k with cool people, play Infinity with no one, or play Warmahordes with complete jerks.

Why wouldn't I stick with 40k?

-Loki- wrote:

Hans Chung-Otterson wrote:Why do you folks complain and then keep buying their stupid-ass games? The models are cool, the games are not good. There are a LOT of good games out there - Warmachine, Hordes, and Malifaux being a few that I've tried, and LOVED - with good companies that care about their customers and communicate.

Don't go sell your models tomorrow, but get a demo in at a local store with a game that looks cool to you. It might be enough.

I know I was in and out of 40k within four months, because I didn't like the game and the prices were crazy.

Speaking personally - I play 40k because my friends play 40k, and they aren't interested at all in another game.

I'm trying to get them to buy a starter pack each for Infinity, but it's like pulling fething teeth.

Anything larger than Infinity (the main draw I can get them to see is it's about $100au for a whole 'army') and it's too expensive. Huh, funny that. Even Warmahordes is too expensive.

I also don't want to get into the local Warmahordes scene, since it is by the admission of someone I know who plays it with locals, comprised entirely of TFGs in my area. Every. Single. Person.

So it's play 40k with cool people, play Infinity with no one, or play Warmahordes with complete jerks.

Why wouldn't I stick with 40k?

How about you don't insult the majority of posters and readers here.

reds8n

There's no need to be an donkey-cave, PhantomViper.

reds8n wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=16600002a

This month we will be increasing the price of some of our products. This price change will take effect from May 28th

At time of writing this has 100 "likes" on Facebook.

How did you find this? and the 28th is a Monday, Is that not an unusual day to raise prices. Could this not be from last year? when the 28th was a Saturday?

insult removed.

Just hit the alert button people, it derails the thread much less.

Thanks.

How did you find this?

I'm awesome.

Saw it elsewhere, passed it on.

reds8n wrote: Just hit the alert button people, it derails the thread much less.

Thanks.

How did you find this?

I'm awesome.

That does not answer the question.

More so regarding the increase hitting on a Monday.

If these spreadsheets are correct (going at current exchange rates, and assuming universal increasu between countries), then the Imperial Sector I was planning on purchasing will jump from £51 to £76. For an extra £25, thats half AGAIN on the current price, I am getting precisely nothing.

Not a happy chappy. If true, thats that summer project indefinitely postponed.

CadianXV wrote:If these spreadsheets are correct (going at current exchange rates, and assuming universal increasu between countries), then the Imperial Sector I was planning on purchasing will jump from £51 to £76. For an extra £25, thats half AGAIN on the current price, I am getting precisely nothing.

Not a happy chappy. If true, thats that summer project indefinitely postponed.

I know how you feel! I was going to buy that set too, but to turn into Chaos bastions as a summer project, that won't be happening if the prices are correct.

-Loki- wrote:
Speaking personally - I play 40k because my friends play 40k, and they aren't interested at all in another game.

I'm trying to get them to buy a starter pack each for Infinity, but it's like pulling fething teeth.

Anything larger than Infinity (the main draw I can get them to see is it's about $100au for a whole 'army') and it's too expensive. Huh, funny that. Even Warmahordes is too expensive.

Why wouldn't I stick with 40k?

Have you tried putting on some demo games of Infinity? IDW (who posts in the CB section) did some for me and some friends a couple of weeks back. Just 3-4 troopers each, and limited rules (there is a new document designed with this purpose, downloadable from the website). I think even if you don't have the models, the rules are so strong that from my experience the 'success' rate of pulling people into a game when they see it in action is very high. And as you say, the price differential (and I can't imagine the situation in Aus) must be not inconsiderable, and the mechanics of the game I think are several steps above GW's core stuff.

If you have tried this though and not had success, it seems a bad thing to say but have you tried getting hold of a different group of players? If anything I have the opposite problem, in that my club seems to jump from game to game more quickly than I can keep a track of! Usually I will get a force of something completed, and then go to the club with it to find that someone is demoing another game with a crowd of people watching! To be honest I have found most players like this, and certainly in our club even the 16-17 year olds who come, having played nothing but 40k/WFB previously, soon get pulled into playing other games. It's just a case of exposing them to it, so they start watching it and think 'hang on a second, this is kind of cool'.

Wow, GW has completely alienated their "target audience". Time to wait a few years until I can get a credit card so I can use eBay. Looks like the only GW thing I'll be buying anytime soon is the 6th ed 40k rulebook.

Their last shareholders report said they had a large amount of "truly surplus" cash and then paid out a large dividend so the only reason for a price increase would appear to be so they can pay yet larger dividends.

In my opinion, Kirby is the chairman, has many shares and will be retiring soon so he is milking the company for a retirement nest egg.

Plus now that the shareholders are getting large dividends they will continue to expect it in the future and grow further.

Same here, dr z. The rule book will allow me to continue to use models I've already got. These prices disgust me way more than the. 3-5% increases we've seen in previous years.

I started 40k in summer of 2009, when black reach was $75 usd. I am dismayed at the state of the hobby where yearly price jumps are the norm.

Congrats GW, as far as I'm concerned you've finally boiled the frog to death.

tetrisphreak wrote:Same here, dr z. The rule book will allow me to continue to use models I've already got. These prices disgust me way more than the. 3-5% increases we've seen in previous years.

I started 40k in summer of 2009, when black reach was $75 usd. I am dismayed at the state of the hobby where yearly price jumps are the norm.

Congrats GW, as far as I'm concerned you've finally boiled the frog to death.

I started around the same time. Back then, 30$ for a Rhino and most infantry was a little expensive, but it was feasible. Now, I don't know if I can complete my Eldar army.

The best way to beat a price hike on a commodity like GW models is to spend wisely.

Avoid their websites and maybe yes, avoid your LFGS and simply opt to spend on large lots of models online that are used/partially painted/nuked from orbit/ect. and build your collection that way.

Suffice to say, it will be more difficult to justify getting more from GW when they charge more. If you want to continue purchasing models from their IPs, then think outside the box.

I clicked "Like".

Because I'm a jerk.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I clicked "Like".

Because I'm a jerk.

Do you mean this thread, as we do have that option now in the top right corner of the thread.

I'm a helper.

I think this round may actually price me out of the GW portion of the hobby. If the prices listed in this thread are accurate then it is the first time I can truely say that terms like "outrageous" and "insane" are apropriate. It won't even be worth it to go through discounters anymore.

Well, I've got plenty of models to paint and I'll be selling my extra stuff until I'm down to one or two of my favorite armies and that'll be that. Shame, because I was really looking forward to filling out my Bretonnians.

Speaking of paint, is the price staying the same on that?

Y'know, what we could really do with here is some solid, official information regarding the approaching price changes. I'm not even asking for a justification.
The only message we have is that a price change is coming. A comprehensive table would probably encourage sales. Confirm that the model I want is increasing in price, and I'll drop the cash on you today, rather than giving you nothing tommorrow.
But, GW policy is information regarding the hobby is far too precious to share with the consumer. We don't want the hype of price changes to die down before they actually happen, do we now?

CadianXV wrote:We don't want the hype of price changes to die down before they actually happen, do we now?

I think GW would actually prefer that you wait till after the end of May to make your purchases.

CadianXV wrote:A comprehensive table would probably encourage sales. Confirm that the model I want is increasing in price, and I'll drop the cash on you today, rather than giving you nothing tommorrow.

Because it doesn't encourage sales, it just shifts sales. If you're going to buy a new character Games Workshop would rather have you buy the new character at $12.00 tomorrow than $10.00 today. By informing you of the price increase, they're losing the additional $2 you would normally spend on that character.

At least that's the logic behind it.

Yep 6th is looking like a great jumping off point

They really are gona shoot them selves in the foot with this one. May be pricing alot of people out of playing. I already think its more expensive than it should be

Possibly. It would Be annoying if it was a really good edition though.

This could be what they are banking on?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Yep 6th is looking like a great jumping off point

Pretty much.

I was worried that Dropzone Commander might be 'too expensive'.

Not anymore!

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Yep 6th is looking like a great jumping off point

If the BoW rumors about the fantasy rules being incorporated are true, I believe you may very well be correct.

I still continue buying GW products just solely from discount stores from now on. I tried out Wayland a while back (it's the only one I know of) and was pretty happy.

Are there any others you guys recommend?

WarOne wrote:Do you mean this thread, as we do have that option now in the top right corner of the thread.

I meant here.

NoBaconz4You wrote:I still continue buying GW products just solely from discount stores from now on. I tried out Wayland a while back (it's the only one I know of) and was pretty happy.

Are there any others you guys recommend?

I order from gifts for geeks when I can, only ordered once before but was very happy with the service and have a good discount.

Either them or maelstrom when they give you extra discount vouchers

biccat wrote:

CadianXV wrote:A comprehensive table would probably encourage sales. Confirm that the model I want is increasing in price, and I'll drop the cash on you today, rather than giving you nothing tommorrow.

Because it doesn't encourage sales, it just shifts sales. If you're going to buy a new character Games Workshop would rather have you buy the new character at $12.00 tomorrow than $10.00 today. By informing you of the price increase, they're losing the additional $2 you would normally spend on that character.

At least that's the logic behind it.

My point was more that it can result in customers like me not spending anything, wheras previously they were prepared to purchase product. Informing these customers that a specific price change is occuring would therefore persuade these 'on-the-fence' clients to commit. It will shift sales, but also avoid losing sales.

However I dare say the numbers have been crunched and result in no info=more money.

NoBaconz4You wrote:I still continue buying GW products just solely from discount stores from now on. I tried out Wayland a while back (it's the only one I know of) and was pretty happy.

Are there any others you guys recommend?

I've been very happy with Dark Sphere, placed three or four orders and haven't waited more than about three working days for any of it, on one occasion I emailed asking to add an item to the order, and the way the timing worked meant that they must have sent it before I had paid for it.

That and a blanket 25% off everything GW.

So for 40k:

-13%ish increase on Rhino Hulls
-12% on Land Raiders
-3.5% on the $35 troop boxsets
-24% increase on the Stormraven
-5-6% increase in the $35 Transports

Maybe they just figure all those Marine armies have their vehicles after 5th and need to recoup for the future edition?

I do find it odd that Xenos got a very, very low number of price increases and that none of them are insane while this time it hit the MEQ's hard. Hell Eldar's vehicles didn't move an inch.

Good thing I have 3 Landraiders, 2 Stormravens, and 9 Rhino Hulls just waiting to be assembled. Won't need to pick up anymore pretty much ever

Hulksmash wrote:24% increase on the Stormraven

Given how ugly it looks and how close it'll be in price to the FW Storm Eagle, you might as well just buy FW.

I find it amusing that they think these models are worth as much as Master Grade Gundam models which have hundreds of parts and are fully articulated.

I guess I will wait for the price increase to sell the rest of my stuff online. I am going to start playing Mobile Frame Zero!

Well, looks like I am going to be finish my guard, selling my Tau and buying Khador and Inifinity for now.

Might still get GW paints, and maybe sixth, but I really don't see myself getting a new army at this point.

And starting to question that adepticon trip.

If these take place, which a few websites say are going to happen ... I think I might just sell off what I have and find another hobby.

Yeah that's my biggest gripe too -- the plastic and resin molds are expensive, but given GW's world-wide market the costs for those should be recouped fairly easily.

Look at a model car kit or any other multi-part plastic kit in hobby stores that's not connected to a war-game. the prices are in the 15-20 dollar range for something the size and scale of a rhino. I once bought my kids multi part plastic dinosaurs (bigger than carnifexes) for $5 each.

The point i'm making is that GW purposely drives up the cost of their goods because they're associated with a game. They know people will still buy their product no matter WHAT they charge (look at australia!). Now that they've established the game and have tons of players they're increasing the cost yearly. had they started out at these prices nobody would have tried the game out enough for it to be this successful.

So what we'll see going forward is existing players begrudgingly opening their wallets, instead of buying 2 kits each pay day they may only buy 1 now but they're still spending GW money. New players will be put off by the cost because they haven't gotten addicted to the plastic crack yet, so the player pool will stagnate. Eventually people will get sick of playing the same games over and over and move onto another system. I am upset about this because i expect next year to see another increase, and the year after that another, etc etc. Since GW went public their management practices have really gone down the crapper.

Dont think in 3 years here I've had a single moan re: GW prices but hand on heart even for me now its becoming a bit of a trial.

As someone said maybe 6th is a good place to get off :(

Will these rises further exacerbate the Aussi et al problems or are they UK/US only?

Everytime i see the price increase i cry.
I think i might only ever collect MY sm now.
Starting an army is to much
But i have a question. They arent going to give a price increase to models they just released right? like the SM fine cast or the Triarc stalker?

Still not up to Australian prices...

NoBaconz4You wrote:I still continue buying GW products just solely from discount stores from now on.

And GW will be just as happy that you're buying them online. Worst case, they close the store operating near you (I'm assuming you currently buy from GW stores). Hope you don't game there regularly.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Starting an army is to much

Use 3rd party bits and models and a minimum of GW stuff. Plus, buy models slowly. I can spend less than $50 per month on models and have a full army within a year (and by then I'd have almost half of it painted...)

hotsauceman1 wrote:But i have a question. They arent going to give a price increase to models they just released right? like the SM fine cast or the Triarc stalker?

IIRC they did last year.

Infinity, Flames of War, Dust Tactics...there's a whole world of non-GW wargaming out there. Don't be afraid to take the red pill.

Talarn Blackshard wrote:If these take place, which a few websites say are going to happen ... I think I might just sell off what I have and find another hobby.

I hope you aren't going to abandon miniatures and wargaming entirely! There is a whole, massive range of other companies who offer far cheaper alternatives. In a number of cases, they offer what many people regard as a better gaming experience and miniatures too.

Have a look further down the opening page on Dakka (under 'Other Games') but in a nutshell, type any of these names into Google:
- Infinity (I'm biased and have put this first, simply because I think it has the most intuitive and well play-tested ruleset and game mechanics ever made, and the models are gorgeous!)
- Warmachine/Hordes, GW main competitor, I've heard reports that they have almost equalled GW's market share in the US, so you should find other players easily.
- Flames of War, if you are a fan of WW2, working in an independent store I found this was a popular choice for older gamers who wanted to move on from GW stuff.
- Mantic - If you still want to play GW games, these offer comparable minis at a far cheaper rate which you can sub in. For example, their 'Undead' and 'Orc' ranges sub in perfectly for the WFB equivalents. They also have a couple of their own games, Warpath and Kings of War, which by all accounts are fun to play.

There are many others, no doubt I have missed a few but off the top of my head: Dystopian Wars, Malifaux, Firestorm Armada, Bushido, Heavy Gear, Helldorado, Sedition Wars.

I think it would be a dreadful shame to give up on the 'hobby' (which extends far beyond GW's borders) just because of one company's complete disregard for their fanbase.

The link that I keep seeing for "May 28th" doesn't sound like it's true. They increased prices and released finecast last year on May 28th, a Saturday. They release everything on a Saturday, if anything it's more likely to be June 2nd. I know we've got "store owners" saying that an increase is coming for June 4th, why would they suddenly shift from Saturday changes to Mondays?

I'm so glad that I'm 99.999% done buying any GW miniatures. I haven't actually bought anything "new" in over 2 years and the stuff I'm looking for is single minis here and there to complete collections and half of those are FW minis.

I agree with other posters that this will make choices easier for people when looking at games like Infinity, D.U.S.T., Dropzone, etc...

$82 for a Stormraven is just..... I can't even imagine..... I wouldn't even pay the $66 for it and hunted/waited for 30% off of that price.

We always see lots of cries about GW pricing people out and how for others that "this is the last straw", but this time I actually *believe* those people.

olympia wrote:Infinity, Flames of War, Dust Tactics...there's a whole world of non-GW wargaming out there. Don't be afraid to take the red pill.

Pacific wrote:

Talarn Blackshard wrote:If these take place, which a few websites say are going to happen ... I think I might just sell off what I have and find another hobby.

I hope you aren't going to abandon miniatures and wargaming entirely! There is a whole, massive range of other companies who offer far cheaper alternatives. In a number of cases, they offer what many people regard as a better gaming experience and miniatures too.

Have a look further down the opening page on Dakka (under 'Other Games') but in a nutshell, type any of these names into Google:
- Infinity (I'm biased and have put this first, simply because I think it has the most intuitive and well play-tested ruleset and game mechanics ever made, and the models are gorgeous!)
- Warmachine/Hordes, GW main competitor, I've heard reports that they have almost equalled GW's market share in the US, so you should find other players easily.
- Flames of War, if you are a fan of WW2, working in an independent store I found this was a popular choice for older gamers who wanted to move on from GW stuff.
- Mantic - If you still want to play GW games, these offer comparable minis at a far cheaper rate which you can sub in. For example, their 'Undead' and 'Orc' ranges sub in perfectly for the WFB equivalents. They also have a couple of their own games, Warpath and Kings of War, which by all accounts are fun to play.

There are many others, no doubt I have missed a few but off the top of my head: Dystopian Wars, Malifaux, Firestorm Armada, Bushido, Heavy Gear, Helldorado, Sedition Wars.

I think it would be a dreadful shame to give up on the 'hobby' (which extends far beyond GW's borders) just because of one company's complete disregard for their fanbase.

The main problem I am going to have is finding a game locally that has a strong following, or any following really outside of 40k/fantasy. I think War Machines and/or Hordes might work out for me but Im still on the fence about it. Not sure costwise how it compares.

I'm not going to stop playing 40K, i'll even shell out $75-80 dollars for the rule book when 6th comes out. However my rate of purchase will definitely decrease, and I'll have to think really hard whether or not i need any more rhino based tanks. Hopefully 6th gives a buff to infantry so they don't need transports as badly as before.

It puts a bad taste in my mouth but i can't stop chasing the GW dragon.

I'm glad I no longer buy WFB/40K stuff anymore.

A few paints, BL novels & some very small epic purchases here & there and that's it, the rest they can keep.

The Only good thing about the price rises for me, is that the more things go up, the more I save by not buying them.

Nice one GW - my bank account loves you!

Is this what it is like to live in Australia, minus the beaches?

A lot of people said they would throw in the towel with the new GW paints too...

@Talarn

WM/H depends on what you wanna build and the local point level really. Some armies I thought looked fun at 35pts cost as much as a 1,500pt 40k army before the increase. But if you avoid lots of infantry and the calvary it's reasonable. On a model per model basis WM/H is on par or more expensive than GW but since you don't need as many it balances out (again unless you like the infantry and calvary).

@Thread

I'll keep playing 40k. I'm looking forward to 6th. But I'm in a place where I have as many of all the large models as I'll likely ever use (3 LR, 2 SR, 9+ Rhino Hulls) so it doesn't really matter to me on that scale. Maybe that is the reason for the push on the marine models. 5th has been a transport & marine edition. Almost every player I know playing MEQ's has already filled up on this stuff. And 6th may take the wind out of transport spam so maybe there is reason for the rhino hull increase.

I do worry it'll limit the number of new players and I'm hoping for a fun 6th edition. Basically at this point I generally build foot armies anyway and this price increase doesn't really affect them (or if it does it's reasonable at 3-4%).

I'm beside myself at the thought of these prices going so high. The hobby is already far too expensive and I'm at my limits for what I'm willing to pay. $79.00 (after sales tax) for a Land Raider is too much, I just can't bring myself to pay that. I don't feel like I'm getting enough of a return in value and/or pleasure paying that much.

I speculate that we're seeing hyper inflation from a collapsing European economy.

Anyone have the original monger for the price increase?

Talarn Blackshard wrote:The main problem I am going to have is finding a game locally that has a strong following, or any following really outside of 40k/fantasy. I think War Machines and/or Hordes might work out for me but Im still on the fence about it. Not sure costwise how it compares.

On a per model basis, it is also quite expensive although less so than GW. It is easier on the wallet overall in that you need fewer figures to make an army and thus far less money.

Hulksmash wrote: I do worry it'll limit the number of new players and I'm hoping for a fun 6th edition.

This is my biggest concern. My wallet can take the hit, it's not like everything else doesn't go up in price too (gas, milk, eggs), but that I've already made a large investment in the game, and it would suck if all the opponents went away.

My fear too, is that high prices like these will keep new gamers from getting into the hobby.

At least we can hope that the savings from buying battleforces and starter boxes will be significant enough to convince players to shell out $100+ just to try the game, right?



Addendum - At the slower pace people will be forced to buy models (those that don't give up on the GW brand, whether because they're just too ingrained or because 6th ed 40K turns out to be incredibly fun and *cinematic*) there will be far more painted armies on the table. If i don't have money to buy new plastic i usually take that time and put paint on a few minis.

It's a pretty bad move for GW, but it's just like every other one to be honest. Problem for them again is the fact that they aren't the only producer of like-minded product. Plenty of manufacturers who make things that can be used as a proxy for their games. Eventually, people who buy the miniatures from other manufacturers to use for GW games will buy the rules as well, and possibly find that their system is better.

I gave up on GW stuff and proxy as much as I can. For things I don't have a good proxy for, I buy as cheap as I can or second hand off the net. Grabbed 2 mounted Nazgul to use as Hexwraiths for $5 each, and I am fine with waiting for the rest to make a big unit of them.

Mantic's Undead absolutely rock, so apart from needing some Great Weapon weilding dudes for Grave Guard, they have me covered on a lot of my needs. Anything else is ably covered by other manufacturers.

I am disappointed in their price hike, but it's nothing if par for the course at this point. They're a public company, and the head of GW loves getting his dividends, so if you think they are likely to change any time soon, you'll be in for a shock.

I will laugh and laugh and laugh if they increase Australian prices proportionally to this. Go ahead, screw us even further guys.

To the original topic, I am unhappy about price raises and about the fact that I thought this was a hoax and was wrong. Good to the OPs, bad to GW. (There, H.B.M.C., happy?)

I still think it isn't the end of the world and I can afford it fine. It isn't like they haven't price increased every year in memory. No one should be surprised by this. I was because of the magnitude of some of the increases.

How many sprues are in the Stormraven box?

It is interesting being on the other side of the fence now. Normally, I'd be frothing at the mouth because of this, but all it is doing is validating and further solidifying my decision to leave The Hobby.

(Don't worry pretre, I'll save the shameless auction plug for another few posts )

Whenever this comes up, I like to have other ask themselves... When is enough, enough? and When will it be too much for you?

I was hoping to get my friend into the hobby, Convince him to come down to 40k and show him how fun it is.
There goes that. He wont shell out 5 bucks for a game, he isnt going to do anything for this.
Does anyone know how they figure the price increase?

aka_mythos wrote:Whenever this comes up, I like to have other ask themselves... When is enough, enough? and When will it be too much for you?

Apparently the answer to both questions is "May 28th".

Thank God I got all the LoTD figures!

My current Silver Skulls force is big enough that I can field 2000pt lists with lots of options. I also have a baneblade and 90% of my Megaforce unassembled.

I thought I would be expanding/revamping my Tau in the future but that is clearly off the table.

And starting Tyranids and/or Chaos is definitely not happening now.

I mean I truly have to wonder if the people at GW are not truly delusional or certifiably insane! They are pricing themselves out of business!

And to think I wanted Tyrannofexes and Winged HT's. They were to be my "thing" for this year, as I've not bought anything else this year from GW other than the odd Bits & Kits bit, and a few LotD minis before they went Finecost.

SickSix wrote:Thank God I got all the LoTD figures!

And thank God I got the ones I wanted too!

At what point is it over the top, and into the realm of illegal?

These "price hikes" are now at the point of price gouging and well into the realm of not passing the sanity test.


Seriously GW, WTF?


BOYCOTT!!! Stop buying GW's shill game!!!

What sucks for me is I love my GW armies (eldar and GK) I love the fluff and the black library books. But after I got home from my FLGS last night (the owner read us the email with the new prices) Ididn't even want to paint them anymore. I'm friggen done. Like for real done buying from them. Anyone wanna recommend a Hordes faction to get me started?

WarOne wrote:The best way to beat a price hike on a commodity like GW models is to not spend anymore on GW.

Corrected your typo.

There are other mini producers for the same game, other games as well. heck I couldn't get a 40K game at the FLGS if I tried at this point. I think I was the last GW player.

I think this might turn me off wargaming and geek hobbies in general.
It seems as if companies have no love for us :(

Right now I own everything I could want for the next 12 months. I might have bought a few things here and there just to get some new stuff and fill out the Tanith I'm working on, but I think I'll take a year off the impulse buys just to spite stupid GW upper manangement,

I've got all my models, mostly. May pick up the new space marine flyers, and will be getting battlesuits when the next tau codex comes out. Possibly a tau flyer too. That's pretty much all I'm buying though.

Been too busy buying 40k RPG books.

Anyone else wonder why GW thinks this is a good idea?
Basic economics means.
Lower price=more sold.

I just got an email from a certain well know miniature war gaming group that does retail with GW mini's informing they have received word that GW will be pushing up their price by 5-20 %

I fear its very true, I hope it doesn't happen we Aussies already paid through the roof for GW stuff

I bought my Mantic dwarf army of 200 models for £60, which effectively meant that I paid 26p per model for them.

It's easily 3k points of competitive warhammer fantasy, if I ever want to play that game.

If you play fantasy, there are alternatives.. not just Mantic either, there are dozens of small companies out there which are cheaper than GW.

Despite what a lot of people here on Dakka will go out of your way to tell you at every opportunity, the alternatives aren't bad looking either.

40k is a little more problematic, due to GW having non-generic IP for that game... that said, other manufacturers can still make Ork/Tyranid/Guard armies without any problems.

Well, I really have all I need for nids, and I only need another chimera to run any guard build I want. This seems like a perfect time to stop buying GW. Privateer Press, Corvus Belli, you guys get my money now.

Pretty crazy, they're definetly seeing how far they can push the customer base.

Fortunately I've already collected a lot of Guard stuff to keep me busy for a while. .

darefsky wrote:What sucks for me is I love my GW armies (eldar and GK) I love the fluff and the black library books. But after I got home from my FLGS last night (the owner read us the email with the new prices) Ididn't even want to paint them anymore. I'm friggen done. Like for real done buying from them. Anyone wanna recommend a Hordes faction to get me started?

Head on down to the WM/H section, and begin your journey!

One of us! One of us!

I was sitting on the sidelines waiting for 6th.

I'm not sitting anymore. 6th could be the best thing since sliced bread. I just don't care anymore and won't be buying the rules.

Anyone want a tallarn army? Or a Sisters army?

To Infinity ... and beyond.

Shotgun wrote:I was sitting on the sidelines waiting for 6th.

I'm not sitting anymore. 6th could be the best thing since sliced bread. I just don't care anymore and won't be buying the rules.

Anyone want a tallarn army? Or a Sisters army?

Even the 6th Edition will pop up on a million places online a few weeks after its release. I don't even want to think how much GW will be charging for the book.

I'm looking into Flames of War now since I'm a big WW2 buff, but the models seem ugly and also quite expensive.

Harriticus wrote:I don't even want to think how much GW will be charging for the book.

Maybe they will follow their new paint-by-numbers system. One book for movement, one book for assault, one book for shooting...

Ok, not defending GW... but here might be their thought process...

Raise the prices on all these transports/tanks to drive people towards more reasonable flyers. They may also have slowed/stopped production of the tanks/transports for the flyer release and figure the increase will work just right for the amount of time it will take to produce the large initial release of the flyers (If it takes months to restock, might as well jack up the price and make max $ on the two that the local GW isn't going to be able to replace anyway).

Foot troops and xenos aren't going up much, if at all (which might tip the hand on less durable 6e vehicles), and these can stay in production in the mean time.

They're trying to drive new money towards their new flyers and discouraging people from buying what will most likely be weaker units in 2 months any way.

May not be all that evil/stupid after all... and all the rage quitting because landraiders are expensive, while you're an eldar/tau player is just silly

It's really easy to act all superior and smug toward your fellow gamer... especially if they've been staunch supporters of GW in the past.

As anyone who has read my Blog ( http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.co.uk/ ) before will know, I'm hardly GW's biggest fan. But honestly those of you who are still enjoying your GW hobby and who have been loyal have my deepest sympathies you really do.

Whatever you do though, don't rage quit the hobby. There are other games systems out there and if you want to ask me or anyone else for that matter about them do so. You won't regret it. Hell right now I'm in the middle of a mammoth giveaway of stuff over at my Blog:

http://thefrontlinegamer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/happy-birthday-frontline-gamer.html

Pop along and see if you can't net yourself some free.

Last thing I am getting from GW model wise is a second Terrorgheist, and the new Empire book. Both are through an online company in the US, so I am still not paying nearly as much as I would otherwise.

Only going for the Terrorgheist as it's hard to make a proxy for that. And the price I am getting it at, it's worth it.

JUMPIN' SWEET JESUS, If those are the US prices....

Oh crap.....

notprop wrote:Possibly. It would Be annoying if it was a really good edition though.

This could be what they are banking on?

I think the flyer hikes are directly related to the new flyer rules that they figure everyone will rush to try. Makes sense to hike the prices in advance rather than later, in case the rules end up underwhelming players after they try them.

And when I see all the SM hulls and the Stormraven being hiked...that smells to me like trying to capitalize on GK popularity. There's some method to the madness here, methinks.

spaceelf wrote:To Infinity ... and beyond.

My thoughts on the matter, basically.

I dunno if I'll stick with GW or not. A lot of this could depend on how the rules for 6th Edition turns out. I'll probably stick to keeping up with the fluff (my favourite part about 40K), Dakka itself and making Fandex's (as that's free!), but otherwise I can't imagine myself collecting much more 40K.

GW's prices are increasing out of all touch with reality. When they're customer base is experiencing stagnant or declining income, they are raising their prices astronomically faster than the rate of inflation, making their products *SIGNIFICANTLY* more expensive in real terms than they used to be. It's not just that it costs more, it's that it all takes a more significant chunk of one's income than it would have several years ago. I know at these prices I wouldn't have started 40k, in many cases more than twice as expensive as they were just 5 or 6 years ago (when inflation would really be about 9-18%, not 200+%).

Codex books were $20 in 2007. Now they're going to be over $40. O_O

For the cost of my current 2000pt IG tournament list, if I had to rebuild it from scratch, I bought 2 Firestorm Armada fleets, an Infinity army, 3 Heavy Gear armies, enough stuff to play different lists for all of those and the books to go with each system. That's what's killing it here.

Just got back from GW.

The manager was not in, but the blue shirt was.

There is a price increase coming for the UK, but he couldn't tell me on what or how much, but did say that I should take advantage of the current prices.

Take that as you will... But there is one coming for us in the UK too.

Lobukia wrote:They're trying to drive new money towards their new flyers and discouraging people from buying what will most likely be weaker units in 2 months any way.

I understand you point, but I tend to disagree and here's why...

GW has an established trend and has even admitted to monetarily pricing units according to 1) How good they are in game and 2) Popularity.

IMO the huge price mark up hints that Land Raiders and other Space Marine tanks may be exponentially awesome in 6th edition. Even better than 5th. The relatively low monetary cost (compared to other vehicles) of the new flyers hints that they will be weak in game and likely used sparingly. So to entice players to actually purchase them despite other, better, but ultimately more expensive options they'll keep the prices on the flyers comparatively low.

Just thinking, my local gaming store is called 4TK. You should expect some 40k games to go on.

I was there on tuesday and on 7 tables not 1 game of 40k being played. There were just two fantasy games running despite there being a league running.

A new guy had come to the club for the first time and wanted to play 40k he'd just started the game and he had some second hand orks in various states of paintedness.

He nearly didn't get a game as we were full and only i just managed squeeze an intro game for him in in time.

Not sure what this means for the hobby.

BTW 4TK is the best club and I love it dearly. You should check it out.

We all complained last year about the price increase for all the good it did us. They aren't listing to us.

The last 2 years their quality has dropped in terms of finecast. Others may disagree but there seems to be a lack of care with some of the newer kits, stormravens, dreadknights, the new SM flyer, I'm not too sure about the necron one either.

There was the battalion rip off with tomb kings £40/50 box with no new models gaining 8 more skeletons and the price almost doubled.

The removal of a carnifex from another.

I will continue to play 40k games but i won't buy anymore stuff other than 2nd hand via ebay now, even then i'll consider hard.

Vaktathi wrote:GW's prices are increasing out of all touch with reality. When they're customer base is experiencing stagnant or declining income, they are raising their prices astronomically faster than the rate of inflation, making their products *SIGNIFICANTLY* more expensive in real terms than they used to be. It's not just that it costs more, it's that it all takes a more significant chunk of one's income than it would have several years ago. I know at these prices I wouldn't have started 40k, in many cases more than twice as expensive as they were just 5 or 6 years ago (when inflation would really be about 9-18%, not 200+%).

Codex books were $20 in 2007. Now they're going to be over $40. O_O

For the cost of my current 2000pt IG tournament list, if I had to rebuild it from scratch, I bought 2 Firestorm Armada fleets, an Infinity army, 3 Heavy Gear armies, enough stuff to play different lists for all of those and the books to go with each system. That's what's killing it here.

Dont forget that they are raising the minimum army size as well, apparently for 40k its going to be 2000 pts instead of 1750

Why is everyone still hating on Finecast? I've had no problems with the finecast Ork models I've picked up. In fact, they were greatly superior to the old metal ones.

I just bought the last parts for my Necron Army and it cost me this month and next months hobby budget because of the forthcoming price hike.

I dread to think how much it would cost me for what I bought after the hike, but suffice to say, I won't be buying another army ever again from GW.

I'll stick to Necrons and GK.

Amaya wrote:Why is everyone still hating on Finecast? I've had no problems with the finecast Ork models I've picked up. In fact, they were greatly superior to the old metal ones.

Well if yours were fine, then everyone else must be lying, right?

lord_blackfang wrote:

Amaya wrote:Why is everyone still hating on Finecast? I've had no problems with the finecast Ork models I've picked up. In fact, they were greatly superior to the old metal ones.

Well if yours were fine, then everyone else must be lying, right?

No, but I haven't even heard anything locally about terrible problems with Finecast problems. My two friends that play 40k have picked up some Finecast models and also had no problems. I haven't honestly encountered a single issue with them.

The entire affair looks like a big whinefest about change being bad.

Amaya wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

Amaya wrote:Why is everyone still hating on Finecast? I've had no problems with the finecast Ork models I've picked up. In fact, they were greatly superior to the old metal ones.

Well if yours were fine, then everyone else must be lying, right?

No, but I haven't even heard anything locally about terrible problems with Finecast problems. My two friends that play 40k have picked up some Finecast models and also had no problems. I haven't honestly encountered a single issue with them.

The entire affair looks like a big whinefest about change being bad.

Not every Finecast model is bad, but the vast majority of them are, people are complaining because the price was increased yet the quality overall is worse.

Maybe we can keep the Finecast complaints in it's own thread, huh?

Change is good when it works. Change is bad when it is poorly executed or when the results are far worse than expected.

I think Jeremy Clarkson said it better... "ambitious, but rubbish".

GW have sorted a lot of the issues out. I've bought some Finecast from when it was first released and have just today bought some Finecast models. The grade of detail is better and the resin is a much better quality. You can actually see it.

But lets get back on topic here.

I keep hearing that most of the items that got increased last year will not be price increased this year, but many of the most popular items like Space Marine vehicles are going up in price again and once again it's mostly not just a buck or two. Example, a Predator tank went from about $40 to $45 last year, now they'll be $57.75. Ouch.

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Skinny on the GW June Price Adjustment
Posted by Man Boy Genius Wednesday, May 23, 2012

Well I just got all the details on the new Price Adjustment from Games Workshop and well I'm still on the fence.

Most items that saw an increase last year, did not receive one this again. For the increase apparently it's only 4% when averaged across the board.

However some items spiked sharply; like the Stormraven to $82 Landraiders to $75. Even transports saw a bump to $37.25 and everyone's favorite demi-transport the Razorback is up to $41.25.

I'm not sure if this is good, but with the fliers coming our next weekend, they just may be what we all needed to stay on target so to speak for the release of 6th edition!

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MetalOxide wrote:
Dont forget that they are raising the minimum army size as well, apparently for 40k its going to be 2000 pts instead of 1750

Not really a raise, some of us have been playing 2000 since 3rd was released.

My dilemma is thus:

It's now more apparent that more than one army is overkill. I can only afford one army.

Finish Tau army and sell Marines and IG
Have 2000pt SM army, keep that and sell Tau and IG
Fund IG army by selling SM and Tau.

Impossible choices I didn't want to have to make - a few hundred lost in future revenue for GW.

well this is uncalled for i would love to see what the percentage of profit is for some of these models.

some of it is less heinous dreads and ven dreads went up 4% or 1.75 thats not so bad

bud 37.25 for a rhino they were already a bad deal. This goes for Drop pods as well.

but 70 plus bucks for a land raider C'MON MAN.

Platuan4th wrote:

MetalOxide wrote:
Dont forget that they are raising the minimum army size as well, apparently for 40k its going to be 2000 pts instead of 1750

Not really a raise, some of us have been playing 2000 since 3rd was released.

It is not good for new players though.

Maybe now its a case of we have to pick one or two armies and sell the rest.

MetalOxide wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

MetalOxide wrote:
Dont forget that they are raising the minimum army size as well, apparently for 40k its going to be 2000 pts instead of 1750

Not really a raise, some of us have been playing 2000 since 3rd was released.

It is not good for new players though.

Agreed. Especially since it was a lot less expensive for new players to do back then(Rhinos and Marine squads were $20).

And we complained when we had to increase our 2nd edition armies to fit the new points costs.

Seriously, GW? I have been trying to get Fantasy rolling again for people in a new LGS that opened, but I cannot honestly look people in the face and tell them they should drop this amount of money just to make ONE large block of infantry.

The holes in your wallet can be filled with liquid greenstuff. Don't worry.

Fortunantly there is always E-bay and other online retailers.

Puscifer wrote:Change is good when it works. Change is bad when it is poorly executed or when the results are far worse than expected.

I think Jeremy Clarkson said it better... "ambitious, but rubbish".

GW have sorted a lot of the issues out. I've bought some Finecast from when it was first released and have just today bought some Finecast models. The grade of detail is better and the resin is a much better quality. You can actually see it.

But lets get back on topic here.

Last off topic coment i will make, I bought castellan crow (designed with finecast in mind) last sunday from a new shippment to the shop and the backback was messed up.

Before that i have bought 7 other finecast things all of which have had problems, so quality is an issue from my POV

Yup I had Tau and High elves in progress and tomb kings. MY DAemons nids and marines, just need odds and ends to change them up a bit.

So sold the Tau, and selling the elves, now. Now I'm trying to decide if i should slim another army off. I buy mostly used these days anyways.

Davylove21 wrote:My dilemma is thus:

It's now more apparent that more than one army is overkill. I can only afford one army.

Finish Tau army and sell Marines and IG
Have 2000pt SM army, keep that and sell Tau and IG
Fund IG army by selling SM and Tau.

Impossible choices I didn't want to have to make - a few hundred lost in future revenue for GW.

It can get worse than that for them. If people just start swapping armies and paint stripping low quality models and repainting, they could see a significiant drop in total income. I really hoped (pipe dream) that due to the excellent quality of their plastic stuff, GW would go that way with almost everything; that they would release more boxes like the Grey Knights, Necrons, and Space Wolves that can make several different units and provide a healthy amount of bits; that they would hold their prices during the 6e release, so that new armies and builds would abound (as new rules and tactics develop). They really could have revitalized their brand here... instead they want $75 for a landraider and release an SM flyer that is going to need some serious love to look good (I might get one, but the storm eagle just started looking a lot better, plus if someone is anti IA, I can just field it as a Stormtalon counts as).

Grey Templar wrote:Fortunantly there is always E-bay and other online retailers.

Whose prices will now increase to make up for GW's own inflation.

Yeah, that's a healthy system.