I'll attempt to collect all of the 40K and HH Forge World news and rumors in this thread. I'll keep this first post updated with the current newsletter and any "Upcoming" rumors as best I can, following Kroothawk's excellent example. I'll let others keep track of the Forge World Fantasy News and Rumors as I don't play or know anything about Fantasy.
First off:
Spoiler:
US Games Day was this past weekend. There is an excellent thread full of pictures here!
One of the most advanced armoured units in the arsenal of the Great Crusade, the Sicaran Battle Tank was the exclusive province of the Space Marine Legions. The Sicaran utilises component technologies from various STC patterns to create a high-speed ‘destroyer’ tank to complement the more commonplace Predator and Land Raider designs.
The primary armament of the main Sicaran variant is the sophisticated Herakles pattern accelerator autocannon, a superior rapid-firing and highly accurate weapon. It fires shells at far higher velocities than a standard autocannon, enabling it to successfully track and engage swift moving targets and pinpoint vulnerabilities in enemy armour with lethal precision.
The Sicaran Battle Tank, designed by Phil Stutcinskas, is a complete resin kit. This model is available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Friday 30th August.
"With such weapons as these at the forefront of our Great Crusade, we shall lay low the xenos, strike down ignorance and cast the shadows of Old Night beyond the borders of the galaxy. With reason and enlightenment comes unification and glory, and a thousand times a thousand years of prosperity, all in the name of the Emperor of Mankind."
Iterator Jhorvus Mhal, during the Thirteen Realms Campaign
Legion Heavy Flamers
The heaviest of the portable Legiones Astartes ‘Volkite’ weapons, the Volkite Culverin is a thermal ray weapon of ancient provenance. Its beam has a devastating effect on organic matter, explosively burning flesh into ash and jetting fire.
Heavy Flamers are often deployed by Legiones Astartes units either as area denial weapons or to force enemy infantry from fortified positions. A variety of different chemicals have been used as fuel for these fearsome weapons, all of them designed to ignite on contact with the atmosphere. The Volkite Culverin and Heavy Flamers sets each contain ten detailed resin weapons which can be combined with our resin Space Marine Legion Infantry, such as the Legiones Astartes Mk II, Mk III and Mk IV armour sets, to construct Legion Heavy Support Squads.
Designed by Will Hayes, these sets are available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Friday 30th August.
Thanks,
Forge World Sales Team
Older Rumors
Spoiler:
GAMES DAY FORGE WORLD INFO
Hello!
I was lucky enough to get to Games Day UK today and attend the Forge World seminar AND get the Horus Heresy Book One ‘Betrayal’ AND get an Angron model!
Now that I’ve got that out there, here’s what I found out….
Warhammer 40K:
There will also be a Dark Eldar Imperial Armour book at some point in the future.
Horus Heresy: Betrayar
There are no plans yet for Torgaddon and Little Horus although it was talked about.
Horus Heresy Book 2: Massacre
Book 2 is Isstvan 5 Part One!
It will feature Mechanicum models, Word Bearers, Night Lords, Salamanders and Iron Hands! Very exciting stuff!
In the Q+A session we were told that there is a new titan variant coming (possible a Warlord!) and that there will be a Stormbird variant coming as well! We will also see Daemon primarchs at some point later down the line and that there would probably be a book covering the Mechanicum battle of Mars!
After emailing FW about Sons of Horus Rhino and Land Raider doors, I got this reply.
Hi,
Thanks for your e-mail. Having designed Brass Etch and a Transfer Sheet for the Sons of Horus, we felt that vehicles doors wouldn't add anything different to the symbols and iconography available, as all our vehicle kits are supplied with blank doors that the decals and brass can easily fit onto.
If there is anything further we can do to assist you, or if you have any queries about the information we have requested or provided, please telephone us.
Regards,
Forge World
Hi there.
Our book production team are currently working on a pdf update for the DKK but they have quite a busy work schedule currently. We are hoping to publish this within the next month.
Forge World wrote:Anything that is removed from the website is, sadly, discontinued. Some of these kits (such as the Lightning) will be redesigned in future, but the Ork Fighta will not be, largely because of the new plastic kit available from Games Workshop
(...)
Sorry, we were slightly misleading there - the Voss Pattern Lightning is the redesign, we have no plans to return the old one to production.
Hi there, This week we bring you news of an eagerly anticipated Legion squad release, the fearsome World Eaters Rampagers, as well as a new Legion weapon set, and five new Legion shoulder pad sets too!
World Eaters Legion Rampager Squad
The Rampager squads of the World Eaters were formed of the most savage and bloodthirsty Space Marines in a Legion already notorious for its fury in battle. All underwent the prohibited psycho-surgery that Angron is believed to have instigated among his favoured sons. Those who survived honed their newly enhanced desire for berserk slaughter through martial discipline and the mastery of cruel and vicious weapons adapted from the arena combats in which the Red Angel fought during his youth.
Of those World Eaters who were plunged too far into madness by their Legion’s experiments, little is known, but dark rumours whisper that they now form the ranks of the Caedere, or ‘butchers’; a dark foreshadowing of the red-handed future of the XIIth Legion.
Designed by Mark Bedford and Will Hayes, the World Eaters Legion Rampager Squad contains five complete multi-part resin models, which are packed with Legion-specific detail. Each member of the squad is presented helmetless in order to show the surgical implants the Rampagers received, and the kit also contains a meteor hammer, two Excoriator chainaxes, a barb-hook lash and a pair of Falax blades; all weapons unique to the World Eaters Legion that can also be used to build XIIth Legion characters.
Legion Phobos Pattern Chainaxes Less common a sight than the ubiquitous chainsword, the chainaxe was used almost wholesale by the World Eaters Legion, its savage nature and brutal appearance a match for their merciless style of warfare.
Designed by Will Hayes, the Phobos Pattern Chainaxe set contains five Phobos-pattern chainaxes and five bolt pistols. It is fully compatible with our Power Armour mark sets models, and is perfect for portraying the ferocious warriors of Angron’s Legion.
Probably the first heresy release I'm not impressed with, those heads seem to have the derpy faces many third party replacement heads seem to have. At least they do seem to be covering pretty much every unit in the book gradually rather than just expecting conversions from the base units.
Apart their faces, they're pretty excellent. I think they'd make one awesome berserker unit if combined with FW berserker kits and some standard chaos or heresy bits.
But yes, the faces are really below usual FW standard. A trainee sculptor, perhaps?
I like the phobos chainaxe set. The Rampagers entirely justify my dislike of marines without helmets and raise my heckles further with bare arms. I like pre-Heresy World Eaters, i do not like these.
I'm in agreement that they look much better unpainted. It's mainly the heads, though they are painted better than I could. I just don't care for the style.
I'd love to mix the rampagers into a bersker squad for sake of variety, I think they would look great if you stuck on some berserker helmets (not keen on the bare head look meself) but at £32 for five minis, I think I'll give it a miss!
cincydooley wrote: Ohhhhh. Sorry! Didn't realize that flail was a "hammer."
It's a reference to the traditional Chinese weapon that's called the meteor hammer and looks exactly what the marine is wielding. It's not a flail, which has a handle.
On the topic of the Heresy marines - so far, I've been fond of none of the heresy close combat weapons. I don't care for the fancy-headed axes, I don't care for machetes, sabers, or chain weapons. It's like the FW team can't resist the urge to be original for originality's sake and would make any historical melee weapon that has yet to appear in 40K. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer the good ol' swords, maces, and axes as represented in GW sculpts. As for the set in question, the bodies are good, the weapons I don't care for, and the heads are plain badly sculpted and oversized. Give us the next Primarch already, FW.
cincydooley wrote: Ohhhhh. Sorry! Didn't realize that flail was a "hammer."
It's a reference to the traditional Chinese weapon that's called the meteor hammer and looks exactly what the marine is wielding. It's not a flail, which has a handle.
On the topic of the Heresy marines - so far, I've been fond of none of the heresy close combat weapons. I don't care for the fancy-headed axes, I don't care for machetes, sabers, or chain weapons. It's like the FW team can't resist the urge to be original for originality's sake and would make any historical melee weapon that has yet to appear in 40K. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer the good ol' swords, maces, and axes as represented in GW sculpts. As for the set in question, the bodies are good, the weapons I don't care for, and the heads are plain badly sculpted and oversized. Give us the next Primarch already, FW.
I hope you see the irony in your post. In one sentence you deride me for not realizing the meteor hammer was in reference to traditional Chinese weaponry (I suppose I need to brush up on my traditional Chinese weaponry--what was I thinking!) and in the next deride Forge World for not making "traditional" weapons. While I've already admitted my knowledge of traditional Chinese weaponry needs some honing, I can't help but think that the barb hook lash and the Falax Blades look pretty darn traditional.
I didn't deride anybody, I simply informed those users who didn't know what the weapon was about its real life origins. Why you chose to read it as an attack is beyond me.
I object to FW for going out of their way to make real life weapons that have never appeared in hands of 40K models before due to them being quite exotic to Brits. Good ol' referred to weapons used by GW marines, not historical warriors across the world. I see it as trying too hard to be different than GW and makes me see the FW Heresy line as taking place in a different universe than 40K proper. I mean where did all those weapons disappear to over the millennia?
sockwithaticket wrote: I like the phobos chainaxe set. The Rampagers entirely justify my dislike of marines without helmets and raise my heckles further with bare arms. I like pre-Heresy World Eaters, i do not like these.
I am with you 100%.
Honestly I feel like they 'phoned these in'.
I hope the whole 30k thing doesn't dilute the quality of sculpting due to the high volume of products and accelerated release schedule.
Ive been waiting for World Eater specific unties forever to blow my money on, and i was super unimpressed and upset to see these but looking at the unpainted models give me hope, i love them, the faces are just butchered by the paint job (pun intended) if your skeptical try looking at the unpainted models
After seeing the unpainted models here. I think I've found the base models for my Iron Warriors Khorne Berserkers. I've got a thing for the old armour.
the unpainted really are much much better, i jsut dont understand why they made the faces rounded and droopy i thought they should be more strong and angular like angrons
I loved the World Eaters, and have a sizeable Pre-Heresy army fielded on many occasions .. Have to be honest it's a bit of a nudge for me to stay with my Great Crusade-era stuff. Specifically, I think they are ruined by the almost comical heads, which are far too OOT in my estimation. I can see too much of the 'MEGA RAARRHGGHHG DESTROY - KABOOM!! 11/10' of the new GW plastic Chaos model kits. If I were to use them, the heads would definitely go - think these would look far better even with a standard mk4 (or beakie?) helm.
The bits of chain and customised shoulder pads are a nice, but I wish they had stayed with the more understated, less toy-like aesthetic that most of the HH miniatures have followed so far.
As for the painting, they're done better than the Emperor's Children. The whole Heresy line thus far has been shown with mediocre painting and poor photography which is a shame.
I quite like these but this thread has pissed me off because of the news that Black Fire Pass has been delayed AGAIN. I'm almost wondering whether there was any point in the big fuss made about Warhammer Forge becoming a separate entity when it's blatantly clear that their resources get constantly bled off by Forgeworld!
Ignatius-Grulgor wrote: Probably the first heresy release I'm not impressed with, those heads seem to have the derpy faces many third party replacement heads seem to have. At least they do seem to be covering pretty much every unit in the book gradually rather than just expecting conversions from the base units.
I think the idea is good but it hasn't been executed to the level it could have been. Just take a look at the FW world eater upgrades from the 40k range, zhufor too, and check how much better those heads are.
It's not the heads that get me, although they do bother me a bit. It's the paintjobs - they look like they were done with drybrushing and a quick and dirty technique, certainly not what I'd expect from professionals.
Now, in the defense of FW, didn't they say earlier with another release that was heavily criticized for it's paintjob, that they were doing a more 'realistic' paintjob that would make new painters feel like they could actually achieve that paint level? Something about 30k armies being huge and not every model is meant to be a showcase piece?
SickSix wrote: Now, in the defense of FW, didn't they say earlier with another release that was heavily criticized for it's paintjob, that they were doing a more 'realistic' paintjob that would make new painters feel like they could actually achieve that paint level? Something about 30k armies being huge and not every model is meant to be a showcase piece?
It's still better than anything I can paint, and I've been doing this for five years! Anyway, if they're selling models, shouldn't they get the best painters possible to do them?
Jon (not his real name, no permission was given) from the Faeit 212 inbox wrote:A new Apocalypse book is apparently in the works and will bring everything up on par with 6th edition. This rumor set has a release date somewhere around June/July. It looks like its going to be a busy summer around these parts.
Please remember that these are rumors.
via Jon (not his real name, no permission was given) from the Faeit 212 inbox
*New Forgeworld Apocalypse book set for release in June/ July
*Contents Include
-Rules for 6th edition including new point costs
-New formations including flying squadrons
-New Asset Card
-New Scenarios
-Battle Reports
and more...
Almost more interesting than the rumor is that maybe Natfka will start labelling his sources with unique pseudonyms.
I have noticed this too, especially in the last year, the standard of paint jobs on the FW website has dropped.
I think its started actually with the Angron release, i always felt that it could have been better, dont know why.
Maybe this is part of the GW ethos that new starts will feel intimidated, but i never felt that when i was getting into the hobby and the eavy metal team at that time included Mike McVey so the stuff was top notch, what it did do was make me want to be a better painter to emulate that.
I have over many years got to a level where i have now been a GD finalist, so saying that kids will feel intimidated is a bit silly of GW, especially as this is like FW's storefront so i would expect the best paint jobs.
Still doesnt put me off wanting the Death Guard catephracti.
Sub par painting on GW stuff I could understand to some degree. FW though is purely for dedicated hobbyists (or rich parents I guess) so in that case they should have a pro paintjob to match. In the case of the World Eaters however, I don't think any paintjob is going to redeem them imho.
From the Forge World Facebook page of all places, confirmation of IA12:
As confirmed by Alan Bligh at Games Day, Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus will feature a Necron dynasty awakening en masse, and being opposed by Imperial forces led by the Minotaurs chapter and the Death Korps of Krieg.
kronk wrote: From the Forge World Facebook page of all places, confirmation of IA12:
As confirmed by Alan Bligh at Games Day, Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus will feature a Necron dynasty awakening en masse, and being opposed by Imperial forces led by the Minotaurs chapter and the Death Korps of Krieg.
Oh man, I'm really crossing my fingers for a Necron version of IA8 - this is very exciting.
As far as the last release, those Khorne Rampagers look uncannily like Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies.
kronk wrote: From the Forge World Facebook page of all places, confirmation of IA12:
As confirmed by Alan Bligh at Games Day, Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus will feature a Necron dynasty awakening en masse, and being opposed by Imperial forces led by the Minotaurs chapter and the Death Korps of Krieg.
Oh man, I'm really crossing my fingers for a Necron version of IA8 - this is very exciting.
As far as the last release, those Khorne Rampagers look uncannily like Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies.
Personally?
I was kind of let down by IA8. It was slated to be a two-parter, then was stripped back to a one-parter so they could do the Badab War as a two-parter instead.
I hope they don't do this as IA8. I want to see Imperial Armours 12 through 14 being focused upon this sector like they have been touting, dagnabbit!
Well, the reason I'd prefer a single volume is several - first, at $81ish a volume, I'd prefer to buy one instead of two to have a complete story. Second, I don't know how possible it is to keep a compelling narrative going for 3 books, especially when the delay between them is fairly long. I barely ever play, I get them for the story. Finally, I think that there is a lot of under-representation done for Xenos, and would prefer to try and alternate them up every book - I'd prefer never to see an Imperial vs Imperial book - judging by the reaction the HH stuff has gotten, I think I'm strongly in the minority on that, though.
But I'd love to see, like, Tallarn vs Dark Eldar, or Sisters vs Tau, stuff like that.
See, I didn't mind the narrative style. I thought it was kind of different and cool.
What really bugged me was that such a huge emphasis was placed upon how important the raid was--and then it just stops. The ending felt rushed, like they realized that they were not going to get to do the second part and had to cram it in there.
IA 3 was (imo) pretty damned good for a one-parter and it's what convinced me that the Badab War books were worth the coin. If they did something like that, it wouldn't be so bad. But if they have the material (and products) for a multi-book storyline then they should certainly do that.
Hi there,
In this week’s newsletter, the proud Emperor’s Children Legion have a new Contemptor Dreadnought available to pre-order, and we’ve also got a tantalising hint about something very exciting on the ‘event’ horizon...
Emperor’s Children Legion Contemptor Dreadnought
Regarded as the most advanced and powerful pattern of Dreadnought fielded by the Legiones Astartes during the Great Crusade, the Contemptor draws not only upon technologies found in the more common MkIV and MkV designs, but also arcane systems taken from the ancient and shrouded lore of the Legio Cybernetica.
The significant advantages in speed and durability granted to the Contemptor over older Dreadnought patterns are not without cost, however, as it requires higher levels of maintenance than other designs. This has not prevented it from finding a place amongst all the Space Marine Legions though and demand for the new chassis is incredibly high.
Designed by Simon Egan and Will Hayes, the Emperor’s Children Legion Contemptor Dreadnought is packed with details themed specifically to this honoured Legion, such as the Palatine Aquila proudly borne upon the sarcophagus of the Dreadnought, and the unique ‘Phoenician’ pattern helm granted as a mark of valour among the Emperor’s Children.
A fantastic centrepiece for both Heresy-era Legion forces and 41st Millennium Chaos Space Marine armies, the Emperor’s Children Legion Contemptor Dreadnought is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 1st March.
kronk wrote: I'm not a fan of the studs on the shoulders, but it's an otherwise excellent looking miniature.
I agree, the studs leave me a bit cold. How ever if you only had studs on the legs it would just look wrong. So i think it's better with the studs then without.
And most FW newsletters I get with new announcements come around noon CST here. My point is that there is still time for further news and that there might be (although I doubt it) more news on the way for the "mysterious 2/20 announcement."
In this week’s newsletter, the second in our series of special Horus Heresy character sets is available to pre-order – the infamous Ezekyle Abaddon, First Captain of the Sons of Horus, and the noble Garviel Loken, Last Captain of the Luna Wolves. We’ve also added a new interview to our YouTube channel, and we’ve got some events news for you.
Abaddon and Loken
Ezekyle Abaddon, First Captain of the Sons of Horus and Master of the Justaerin, was one of the most renowned and fanatically loyal commanders of the XVIth Legion. A hulking brute of a Space Marine, whispered rumour had long speculated that he was the clone-progeny of the Warmaster himself. Regardless, Abaddon walked willingly into treachery alongside his master, slaughtering many of his former comrades on the blasted fields of Isstvan III, and soon his name was amongst the most feared and despised of the traitor Horus’ followers.
Garviel Loken once commanded the 10th Company of the Luna Wolves Legion; later the Sons of Horus. He was a well-respected and senior commander, and one of the Mournival, the unofficial cadre of Horus’ closest advisors. His idealism and staunch loyalty to the Emperor and Humanity saw him selected to command the Sons of Horus contingent in the assault against the recidivists of Isstvan III. When the true scope of betrayal was revealed, Loken and his comrades cast aside their Legion name and proclaimed themselves Luna Wolves once more. They exacted a heavy toll on those they had once called brother, but it was as the Last Captain of the Luna Wolves that Garviel Loken fell.
This very special pair of models are supplied in a particularly handsome presentation box, just like Angron, and Abaddon and Loken are multi-part resin models, each packed with Legion-specific iconography. Each is dynamically posed and supplied on 40mm and 20mm bases respectively for gaming purposes. The figures also slot into a large scenic base to allow the fateful duel between the two to be represented.
Simon Egan has designed two stunningly detailed figures to depict these two most famous commanders of the Sons of Horus Legion. Loken is charging forward, his hatred of the traitors writ clear upon his features, while Abaddon is braced to receive his former brother’s assault, the Eye of Horus having replaced all Imperial iconography upon his armour. Abaddon is additionally supplied with two weapon options: an ornate power sword and the combi-bolter that his wargear includes for normal battlefield use.
The Abaddon and Loken set is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 1st March.
We felt that such incredible miniatures, and the cataclysmic duel that they are fighting, deserved some extra insight, and so we’ve uploaded a new video to our YouTube channel. Simon Egan explains some of the design process behind these two special characters, alongside close-up shots of the incredible level of detail that he has achieved.
Events News AdeptiCon 2013, 18th - 21st April, Westin Lombard Yorktown Center, Chicago Forge World will again be attending AdeptiCon this year, and we are now accepting reservation orders for this popular event. While we will be bringing a huge selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling products, placing a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we have exactly what you want packed up and waiting for you at the show.
You can either telephone us on 011 44 115 900 4995, or send an e-mail entitled ‘AdeptiCon 2013 Reservation’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. We will need your name, a list of the items that you wish to order, and a contact e-mail address by Thursday 28th March.
In the week prior to the event, we will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable, and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event.
Forge World Open Day, 7th April, Warhammer World, Nottingham The annual Forge World Open Day will take place on Sunday 7th April, here at Warhammer World in Nottingham. We’re currently planning this ever-popular event and we’ll be announcing more details very soon, so keep an eye on your inbox for further updates including an announcement regarding reservation orders.
Salute 2013, 20th April, ExCel Centre, London The ExCel Centre in London’s Docklands again hosts Salute this year, and our intrepid Events team will be manning our usual Sales stand, as always straining under the weight of books, resin kits and modelling products. In addition to providing more details about our presence at the event in coming weeks, we’ll begin accepting reservation orders for Salute very soon. The Horus Heresy Weekender, 18th and 19th May, The Nottingham Belfry Hotel, Nottingham In association with Black Library, tickets are selling fast for the ultimate Horus Heresy getaway! Click the image below for more details about the event, and to buy your ticket now
That really blows away my expectations ... great models. Sadly I just made an order yesterday so it will take awhile until make a new one. But then Abaddon and Loken will be on the top of my list ... and hopefully the next primarch is around the corner as well.
I agree this looks fantastic. Wanted a model of Loken since reading the first three HH books. Shame he's not available separately. If I had the cash this would be a very quick way to spend £55
What's up with Loken's armor color? I was under the impression after they changed to Sons of Horus it was more a white/pale green--that almost looks turquoise?
The models look great. But come on, a space marine captain wielding a chain sword? Every terminator has a power weapon of some kind, Abbaddon has two, but none for Loken....
Did Abbaddon already have a lightning claw in that final fight? I didn't think he did. Either way the models look cool. I'll be picking up one at Adepticon.
Well, Abaddon's the head of the Justaerin Terminators, and they already wear black. Loken's a part (though former as of Istvaan III) of the Mournival iirc, some other elite advisory group in the Sons of Horus, so you could say they wear black too. Furthermore, I doubt there was any paint available on Istvaan III for any loyalists to do serious repainting, so other than scratching off the horus symbols, which FW wouldn't do for a showcase mini, they're actually pretty accurate.
Compel wrote: Did I misunderstand that thing in the books about all the Luna Wolves repainting their armour while waiting for the big assault?
When they changed the legions name from Luna Wolves to Sons of Horus, they changed the color of their uniforms. This is mentioned briefly in Galaxy in Flames (3rd HH Book).
His green armor might be slightly darker than the standard marines because he's a member of the Mournival and/or a Chapter Captain.
The Luna Wolves (and Horus') armor was originally white. After they became the Sons of Horus it became green. Horus got the black armor later after he fell as a gift from the Mechenicum as a sign of their loyalty.
That is correct, but the green armor for the Sons of Horus in the HHFW book is a lighter green than Loken has in this picture. Artistic License, I suppose. He is a Chapter Master/Captain after all.
Hulksmash wrote: Did Abbaddon already have a lightning claw in that final fight? I didn't think he did. Either way the models look cool. I'll be picking up one at Adepticon.
He had a power fist.
I think this model is a nice solution to the current terrible Abaddon. That claw/fist could pass for either.
Harriticus wrote: It's a beautiful little set, but I admit I am disappointed at no Primarch. FW is really taking its time with them. To think we still have 17 left.....
My original projections were that it would take 9 years for FW to create all of the primarchs. I'm now updating that to 18. years.
I had waffled a bit on whether to buy from an alternate source (kabuki models). Seems I was justified as FW doesn't want my money.
Newest WD have pic of a recon sniper marine in Mk IV, and a Thallax that is still wip. I'm sure someone can snag a pic, but if not by Sunday I'll do it then.
Don't like the Thallax much. They're not meant to be Legio Cybernetica, they're meant to be cyborg soldiers. The artwork I've seen for Skitarii was more along the lines of what I was imagining.
When I first saw the pic I thought it was a Wraithguard.
Harriticus wrote: Don't like the Thallax much. They're not meant to be Legio Cybernetica, they're meant to be cyborg soldiers. The artwork I've seen for Skitarii was more along the lines of what I was imagining.
When I first saw the pic I thought it was a Wraithguard.
haroon wrote: What is a thallax? Is it some kind if troop, is it in the HH book?
It's a troop choice in the HH:Betrayel book for the Adeptus Mechanicus... It's pretty much a cyborg with nothing except a human brain as the last bits of fleshy-ness. It's basically similar stats to ogryn, decent enough armor, jump pack, and lightning gun... May take mechanicum land raider as dedicated transport.
A Thallax seems like an odd chouice for FW's first step into making some ad-mech models. I would have thought that the obvious choice would be to go with some Skitarii or something. Not that I am complaining, I have many uses for what looks like the start of a great model!
I don't think it's odd at all. It seems consistent with past FW efforts and stated priorities. They want to sell models that both past and new Ad-mech fans will buy. Id guess they feel the past fans will be less inclined to buy skittari since they've already converted them. It's just the same as when they chose not to produce Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard with Great Axes or blunderbuss, which prior to their effort were the definitive characterization of the most common Chaos Dwarf. The above was the rationale they gave.
I think in this instance Thallax were selected partially on the basis of how the Mechanicum were represented on Istavaan III .... The skittari may simply have not survived long enough to participate in the battle.
That's actually an excellent point there. Hopefully it means that we will be seeing them create a bunch of original models for Ad-mech, wouldn't mind some to go along with my Thousand sons...
I'm sure they have a bunch in mind. Something I was thinking about... Many comments about the look of the thallax but if you consider some of the elements of the older robot designs and imagine they were updated... Then the thallax's appearance makes mores sense.
aka_mythos wrote: I'm sure they have a bunch in mind. Something I was thinking about... Many comments about the look of the thallax but if you consider some of the elements of the older robot designs and imagine they were updated... Then the thallax's appearance makes mores sense.
Funny you should show that crusader robot. There is a great looking re design of it in the Collected Visions book. I would find it but I don't want to blast through 350 pages of art right now!
aka_mythos wrote: I'm sure they have a bunch in mind. Something I was thinking about... Many comments about the look of the thallax but if you consider some of the elements of the older robot designs and imagine they were updated... Then the thallax's appearance makes mores sense.
Funny you should show that crusader robot. There is a great looking re design of it in the Collected Visions book. I would find it but I don't want to blast through 350 pages of art right now!
More I stare at that Thallax, more I like it. It is refreshingly unique design. I hope they make a full Ad Mech lists to go with them, one in Betrayal was rather disappointing. I'd love to see some FW knights and skitarii.
Crimson wrote:More I stare at that Thallax, more I like it. It is refreshingly unique design. I hope they make a full Ad Mech lists to go with them, one in Betrayal was rather disappointing. I'd love to see some FW knights and skitarii.
I think knights are very likely since one of the vehicle upgrade rules (flare shields I think) specifically mentions both the Grav-attack and certain "patterns of Imperial Knights" possesing it.
Looking at the Thallax entry I think they're a good unit to wet our pallets for Ad-mech, which is why I think they were done first. When it comes to Skittari, I'm all for people getting what they want; its all for fun after all... but I think they'll tend to be some of the less interesting Ad-mech units. I imagine the only things less interesting will be the units that are just copy and pasted... such as how Ad-mech Myrmydons are currently count-as-ed Techmarines or how I'm sure we'll also see Enginseers copy and pasted as Techpriests. I'd also bet the artillery like the Laser Destroyer and Thudd-gun will make a reappearance with the Ad-mech as well. Given the nature of their options, I'm betting FW is planning some sort of servitor set.
As it is Thallax are currently a troop choice, but they're mentioned as being similar to Praetorians. Praetorians are fluffwise more of an elite unit. To me that implies that down the line the Thallax will be bumped over to a different FOC (FA?) and I'd guess it'd be whenever FW does Skitarii.
Hi there, In today’s newsletter we’re excited to announce that tickets for the Forge World Open Day 2013 are now on sale! As well as details of this ever-popular event, we’ve also got a preview of the forthcoming Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus book.
Forge World Open Day, 7th April, Warhammer World, Nottingham
Sunday 7th April will see Forge World and Warhammer Forge abandon our top-secret Manufactorum for our annual Open Day. This year’s event will be ticketed, due to its incredible popularity, and Open Day tickets are exclusively available to purchase from the Forge World website priced at £7.50.
The entirety of both the Forge World and Warhammer Forge design teams will be attending the Open Day, showcasing all manner of work-in-progress models and recent releases.Simon Egan, Blake Spence, Stuart Williamson, Daren Parrwood, Will Hayes, Phil Stutcinskas, Mark Bedford, Edgar Skomorowski, Keith Robertson, Steve Whitehead, Trish Carden, Matt Murphy-Kane and Neil Cook, along with new designers Israel Gonzalez, Alfonso Giraldo and Peter Hutchins, have been hard at work on a variety of Warhammer 40,000, Warhammer Forge and Horus Heresy models of a variously armoured, flying, and walking nature; all these and more will be on display, along with fantastically painted models and a selection of our stunning display boards.
The Art and Book Design team will also be at the Open Day. Paul Rudge, Rhys Pugh, Ian Strickland, Kenton Mills, Rachel Pierce and Dominik Oedinger will be showcasing the process by which Imperial Armour books are created, and may even be seen working on artwork for future book projects on their advanced cogitator devices. Writers Alan Bligh, Talima Fox and Neil Wylie will be on hand to talk about the process of writing an Imperial Armour book, and the forthcoming Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus. They may even be tempted into dropping a few hints about future projects…
Our Sales stands will be packed with a huge selection of resin kits, books and modelling supplies, including some pre-release kits that will be announced in future newsletters. We hope to have copies of Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus on sale, and we’ll be confirming this in the near future. As always the Open Day will be the first chance to purchase this year’s Event Only models. For 2013, we’ve designed both a Warhammer Forge model and a Forge World model once again, and while we can’t tell you what they are just yet, suffice to say we think they’re great!
The Open Day painting competition will again be judged by our Studio team, and all attendees can enter. Your entry should consist of a single Forge World model of any type, although we do advise that cabinet space may be limited. The prize, of course, is the prestigious Forge World Open Day trophy.
We’ll also be running our Charity Titan Raffle, which is always incredibly popular. Tickets will be on sale throughout the day for a mere £1 each; all proceeds will be donated to Children In Need and the prize will be a complete mighty Imperial Reaver Titan.
The Open Day runs from 10am to 4pm and all the Warhammer World facilities are available throughout the day, especially Bugman’s Bar for breakfast, lunch, and refreshments. Tickets are on sale now and we look forward to seeing you there!
Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus Preview
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The Forge World team will be showcasing Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall Of Orpheus for the first time at the Forge World Open Day 2013. Incredible displays of artwork and colour profiles, as well as proof copies of this exciting new campaign book, will be on display on the day, and we’ll be revealing more in our newsletters later this month.
Event Reservation Orders
Forge World Open Day and Salute 2013 We are now accepting reservation orders for the Forge World Open Day and Salute. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Open Day and Salute reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order.
AdeptiCon 2013, 18th - 21st April, Westin Lombard Yorktown Center, Chicago Forge World will again be attending AdeptiCon this year, and we are now accepting reservation orders for this popular event. While we will be bringing a huge selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling products, placing a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we have exactly what you want packed up and waiting for you at the show.
You can either telephone us on 011 44 115 900 4995, or send an e-mail entitled ‘AdeptiCon 2013 Reservation’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. We will need your name, a list of the items that you wish to order, and a contact e-mail address by Thursday 28th March.
In the week prior to the event, we will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable, and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event.
Thanks, Ead Brown Customer Service Manager Forge World
Anyone want to begin rampant speculation on what the Convention Exclusive minis will be this year?
40k - I think it would be fantastic if it was an exclusive and BA looking necron lord to go with IA12. I think it's more likely to be something HH, which is fine by me
Goliath wrote: Just bought my ticket Here's hoping that there are some new models released between now and then
Take pictures! Post them!
I'm planning to, though I won't have internet access till about 6:00PM after the event (unless there is internet in the building)
I'm also doing a massive purchase because it's two days after my 19th birthday, so I'll have money to burn (I'm planning on getting Espeth Von Draken on Carmine Dragon plus a fair few smaller character models)
I'd like to go, but honestly by the time you pay for a ticket, pay for transportation, pay for food on the day etc etc, and with how quickly the info gets put up online nowadays, you're better just forking over the £25-30 on ebay for the event-only mini.
Elspeth is a great model but definitely requires some work. A few unfortunate gaps in the tail that have to be sculpted over. Can't wait to see your photos!
Yodhrin wrote: I'd like to go, but honestly by the time you pay for a ticket, pay for transportation, pay for food on the day etc etc, and with how quickly the info gets put up online nowadays, you're better just forking over the £25-30 on ebay for the event-only mini.
Like I said though, I'm turning 19 and this is the first year that I've had enought autonomy around my birthday to be able to go, so I'll hopefully be picking up some of the older event only models as well (runtbot, enforcer and Chaos Dwarf). Besides, food on the day is going to cost all of 50p due to the miracle of student cooking.
It's a bit annoying that they've chosen to ticket this year, especially since FW's flat postage rate of 12% applies to them?!
Anyway I'll be going as usual, it's a great day and you usually get to see a lot of new stuff, once the epic queues for the sales stand have died down, last year took me an hour and that was the shortest I've ever seen it due to their expansion of the sales area!
redbristles wrote: It's a bit annoying that they've chosen to ticket this year, especially since FW's flat postage rate of 12% applies to them?!
Anyway I'll be going as usual, it's a great day and you usually get to see a lot of new stuff, once the epic queues for the sales stand have died down, last year took me an hour and that was the shortest I've ever seen it due to their expansion of the sales area!
If you reserve online then you can focus on the new stuff and don't have to worry about getting the stuff you want, as it's already paid for and waiting for you I'm gonna turn up, head straight for the sales stand for stuff you can't reserve and get loadsa that stuff, then head around and take photos/talk to people
I apologize in my tardiness for updating this thread with yesterday's Newsletter, but I was without interwebs for the last 2 days. Oh no!
Anyway...
Forge World Newsletter #336
Hi there,
With the upcoming release of our new Imperial Armour book, this week’s newsletter has some great news for Necron players; a stunning new kit and a unique Realm of Battle tile are now available to pre-order. Read on for more!
Necron Night Shroud Bomber
The Night Shroud is a dedicated bomber that is larger than the more numerous Night Scythe and Doom Scythe craft, alongside which it operates, whose origins date back countless aeons to the lost battles of the War in Heaven.
The Night Shroud was built to carry a relic of that ancient and apocalyptic conflict, so-called Death Spheres, containment vessels that imprison the merest fragment of anti-matter. The Death Sphere's potent warhead is kept out of phase with the material universe until the sphere detonates, when it unleashes an energy blast capable of annihilating anything it touches.
The Necron Night Shroud Bomber, designed by Daren Parrwood, is an imposing battlefield presence. This complete resin and plastic kit is packed with detail, and its sinister, elongated profile makes for an impressive centrepiece or painting project for any Necrons collection. Full rules and background for this construct will be included in the forthcoming Imperial Armour – Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus.
Realm of Battle Necron Tomb Citadel
The stasis-crypts of the Necrons are protected by great defensive structures; near-impregnable fortifications designed to stand against the ravages of eternity, hostile action and deadly environments. Tomb Citadels often stand on the outermost borders of a wider complex. They act as watchtowers and outposts that are often the merest tip of the iceberg; the fathomless depths of silent galleries and stasis-chambers that make up the nameless cities of the Necrons extending far below them.
A Tomb Citadel is far more than an inert relic of strange aeons past, however. Each is a near-living war machine in its own right, and Imperial combat records record these brutish structures rising from the very earth, or phasing strangely into existence in the midst of a Necron assault. If not quickly destroyed, these dread ziggurats will form a beachhead from which the undying legions pour forth to destroy their foes.
The Realm of Battle Necron Tomb Citadel, designed by Blake Spence, is a 2' x 2' (609mm x 609mm) tile which can fit onto a Citadel Realm of Battle board. Packed with detail, the stepped levels of the Tomb Citadel allow infantry and vehicles to be placed and moved upon it, and multiple tiles can be fitted together to create larger fortifications and complexes. The narrow passages between the monolithic structures and the vantage points gained from the higher levels can make for a tense and exciting game.
Full rules and background for this construct will be included in the forthcoming Imperial Armour – Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus.
Both of these fantastic new releases are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 5th April.
Forge World Events News
Forge World Open Day, 7th April, Warhammer World, Nottingham Sunday 7th April will see Forge World and Warhammer Forge abandon our top-secret Manufactorum for our annual Open Day.
Tickets are selling incredibly fast and we have already sold over three-quarters of the available places, so don’t miss out! Open Day tickets are exclusively available to purchase from the Forge World website, and you can find more information this exciting event at the Open Day events page.
The Forge World Open Day will allow you to meet our entire studio team of sculptors, designers, painters and artists, marvel at incredible display boards and see work-in-progress models, artwork and books.Our sales stand will be packed with modelling products, books and resin kits, and the Open Day will be the first chance for you to get hold of our Event Only models for 2013...
Event Reservation Orders
Forge World Open Day and Salute 2013 We are now accepting reservation orders for the Forge World Open Day and Salute. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Open Day and Salute reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order.
AdeptiCon 2013, 18th - 21st April, Westin Lombard Yorktown Center, Chicago Forge World will again be attending AdeptiCon this year, and we are now accepting reservation orders for this popular event. While we will be bringing a huge selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling products, placing a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we have exactly what you want packed up and waiting for you at the show.
You can either telephone us on 011 44 115 900 4995, or send an e-mail entitled ‘AdeptiCon 2013 Reservation’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. We will need your name, a list of the items that you wish to order, and a contact e-mail address by Thursday 28th March.
In the week prior to the event, we will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable, and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
Been thinking of building necrons, although it goes against my desire to stay away from GW. Does anybody with experience with the FW battle boards know if the larger structures are hollow or not. It might make the difference of buying on as hollow structure could allow for lights and other goodness.
Compel wrote: I have always wondered, are the FW boards the same height as the normal boards?
Previous FW boards have always blended in seamlessly with the GW ones so I don't see why the Necron ones would be any different.
Speaking of the board, I really like it. Not enough that I would actually buy the thing as I would be more likely to commission one (I think Terraformer on Dakka built a really good one a few years back).
The FW boards usually fit although they are prone to warping like the rest of their stuff. They are also "hollow" with criss-crossing bits underneath like the regular plastic RoB boards. I've no idea on how difficult it will be to work with the buildings to introduce electronics. The boards are amazingly expensive, however, and this is the only xenos one so far.
Forge World have said on their FB page they will unveil the special minis just before the event, so i would put that as about a week before so you're still looking at the end of March before they announce them.
I have to admit, the new cron flyer looks very cool.
I am tempted to buy a couple...but, after literally spending thousands with FW over the years, I think I may be done with them.
Why? Because it would have been incredibly easy for them to put any of the FW tau models into the new tau dex.
Even if they were different units/stats/names - I don't care, just put the models I have funded the shareholders dividends with into the book.
Yes, I know FW stuff is "official" but that is not quite the same as "in the codex". I don't have to "notify" or "ask" my opponent anything when it in the codex.
How hard is it to get a company to support us, after we have supported them all these years.
davethepak wrote: Yes, I know FW stuff is "official" but that is not quite the same as "in the codex". I don't have to "notify" or "ask" my opponent anything when it in the codex.
Of course you do. When you start a game you show your opponent your army, and there's an implied "will you play against this?" involved. Your opponent can choose to play against it, or refuse. And saying "but it's in the codex" doesn't make even the slightest difference*, an opponent who doesn't like crisis suits can refuse to give you permission to use them just like someone who doesn't like Barracudas can.
*Unless you're playing in an event with a codex-only house rule, but house rules aren't GW's problem.
And they're going to be in the third book, and the second ones not going to be released until we get all the primarchs from the first book have been. (Apparently).
That bomber isn't bad, but it certainly isn't $100 not-bad. For that amount of money, a fair-to-middlin' modeller could easily convert from plasticard and various Necron bits (which, if one didn't have them, could be purchased for not too much.)
I remember hearing sometime back that Necrons were due to get the Imperial Armour/ForgeWorld treatment. Was pretty excited that I might actually see something cool enough to justify paying the FW premium (since 'Crons are my main army.) If this is the kind of thing that they'll be producing, it seems that won't be the case...
-C6
Automatically Appended Next Post: Though as others have said, the enclosed (no visible pilot) cockpit is what all the Scythes should look like.
catharsix wrote: That bomber isn't bad, but it certainly isn't $100 not-bad. For that amount of money, a fair-to-middlin' modeller could easily convert from plasticard and various Necron bits (which, if one didn't have them, could be purchased for not too much.)
I remember hearing sometime back that Necrons were due to get the Imperial Armour/ForgeWorld treatment. Was pretty excited that I might actually see something cool enough to justify paying the FW premium (since 'Crons are my main army.) If this is the kind of thing that they'll be producing, it seems that won't be the case...
-C6
Automatically Appended Next Post: Though as others have said, the enclosed (no visible pilot) cockpit is what all the Scythes should look like.
Necrons are going to be in IA12 (the next IA book) - whcih is also where you will find the rules for the new necron flyer.
Hi there,
We return to the Horus Heresy in today’s newsletter as this week’s pre-order kits include both a new bike squadron and four new support weapon sets, as well as a new scenery bundle. We’ve also got a reminder of the events we’ll be attending in the next few months – all of which we’re now accepting reservation orders for. Read on for more!
Legion MkIV Outrider Squadron
Outrider squadrons are mechanised Space Marine reconnaissance squads who take to the field of battle mounted on ruggedly-constructed ground bikes. Equipped with twin-linked bolters, often augmented with heavier firepower in the form of melta-guns, flamers or plasma guns, Outriders are used for rapid encirclement as well as hit-and-run attacks against targets of opportunity behind enemy lines. Their chief advantage is speed and mobility, their bikes enabling them to cover ground far faster than infantry, and to go where heavier vehicles cannot.
Designed by Phil Stutcinskas, the Legion MkIV Outrider Squadron contains three complete resin and plastic kits, allowing this potent Fast Attack option to be added to a Space Marine Legion force or fielded as a Bike Squadron in many Codex armies. Each model has two weapon options: twin-linked bolters, or plasma guns and they are fully customisable with our range of Space Marine and Legion accessories. Full rules for the Legion Outrider Squad can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal.
Legion Support Weapon Sets
The Legiones Astartes are well equipped with the finest weapons that can be produced by the manufactoria of Mars – from energy weapons of arcane provenance to rotor cannons of comparatively recent design. The Legions concentrate these specialised weapons into Tactical Support Squads, allowing overwhelming firepower to be brought to bear against any enemy target.
Will Hayes has designed four new sets of detailed resin weapons. The Flamer Set, Melta Gun Set and Plasma Gun Set each contain ten weapons, while the Rotor Cannon Set contains five resin weapons, ammunition feeds and hoppers. To build a Legion Tactical Support Squad, using the rules in Betrayal, combine these weapon sets with our MkII, MkIII or MkIV Space Marine armour sets or MkII, MkIII or MkIV Legion armour sets.
All of these fantastic new releases are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 5th April, and we hope to have the Outrider Squadron and the Support Weapon Sets on sale in limited numbers at the Forge World Open Day.
Realm of Battle Necron Tomb Complex Due to popular demand, we’ve put together this online exclusive bundle, the Realm of Battle Necron Tomb Complex, which comprises four of Blake Spence’s Necron Tomb Citadel Tiles and four plastic Necron Monoliths. This creates a 4’ by 4’ (122cm by 122cm) playing area, which can extend a standard Realm of Battle gaming table. The Necron Tomb Complex bundle is exclusively available online, and can be pre-ordered now for despatch from Friday 5th April.
Forge World Events News
Forge World Open Day, Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender 2013 We are now accepting reservation orders for the Forge World Open Day, Salute, and the Horus Heresy Weekender. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Open Day and Salute reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order.
Please note that tickets for the Forge World Open Day have now sold out.
AdeptiCon 2013, 18th - 21st April, Westin Lombard Yorktown Center, Chicago Forge World will again be attending AdeptiCon this year, and we are now accepting reservation orders for this popular event. While we will be bringing a huge selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling products, placing a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we have exactly what you want packed up and waiting for you at the show.
You can either telephone us on 011 44 115 900 4995, or send an e-mail entitled ‘AdeptiCon 2013 Reservation’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. We will need your name, a list of the items that you wish to order, and a contact e-mail address by Thursday 28th March.
In the week prior to the event, we will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable, and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Meltaguns and Plasma Guns available in big sets? Praise the Emperor and pass the ammo!
And cheaper than GW's special weapon sets.
It's becoming increasingly clear, if you want guns, FW is actually taking the weapon bit market seriously. If you're playing an MEQ army, and even Guard, to a point (required a little more conversion effort), FW is the best place to get bunches of weapons.
Only real problem I have is since they want the guns to be universal, usable by all MEQ kits, all the heavy weapons have that odd not-boltgun carrying piece they hold on to. I know it's supposed to be a kind of targeter, or the anti-grav hardware for heavy weapons so they're easier to use, but really, they just look like little boltguns strapped on top.
Those bikes are really nice and are actually quite similar in aesthetic to the Puppets War ones. Interestingly, with the release of these assault weapon packs, do we think there'll suddenly be a plethora of these 'relic weapons' on the tabletop? Certainly beats trawling bits sites for £2 + meltaguns etc.
Bikes are pretty nice, and that FW terrain is gorgeous (wife pointed out that it would make cool House Harkonnen (sp?) stuff for a skirmish game), but wow is that expensive...
Loving the bikes! Like sockwithaticket said, they are very similar in appearance to the Puppets War ones. Wonder what they are inspired by? The old epic bike perhaps?
Whatever the case I actually like them more than the normal bikes, just a shame about the price tag!
kronk wrote: Also, the FW are better looking than the GW ones. By far!
This is a resin and plastic kit so technically, they are the GW ones... with conversion bits. Still, I do like them better. My problem is that I have so many of the GW bikes that I'm not sure what to do. I guess it's time to put my stash up on eBay.
One problem I see is that there doesn't appear to be any "cool" way of putting on the Ravenwing banners and bits.
kronk wrote: Also, the FW are better looking than the GW ones. By far!
This is a resin and plastic kit so technically, they are the GW ones... with conversion bits. Still, I do like them better. My problem is that I have so many of the GW bikes that I'm not sure what to do. I guess it's time to put my stash up on eBay.
One problem I see is that there doesn't appear to be any "cool" way of putting on the Ravenwing banners and bits.
I thought we were talking about the melta guns and plasma guns. My bad!
kronk wrote: Also, the FW are better looking than the GW ones. By far!
This is a resin and plastic kit so technically, they are the GW ones... with conversion bits. Still, I do like them better. My problem is that I have so many of the GW bikes that I'm not sure what to do. I guess it's time to put my stash up on eBay.
One problem I see is that there doesn't appear to be any "cool" way of putting on the Ravenwing banners and bits.
I thought we were talking about the melta guns and plasma guns. My bad!
Too many people talking about different things and switching back and forth too fast got me tripped up there. Sorry about that. Not really sure if I agree about the FW plasma/melta gun comments but having assault cannons for my Devestators seems like a cool idea. It'd be better if I could fit the ammo feed into the current heavy bolter backpack though.
Really? It doesn't look Chaosy. I guess ... maybe with a cultist? To me, sitting a SM on it makes it look a little BMX-ish compared to the ChunkHawg Sm usually ride. A cultist or other normal human might make the model feel more substantial.
I dunno. I don't like the whole Spikes and Horns theme for Chaos. I like the aesthetic much better.
My army will be more Renegade than Chaos. Most of my Chaos will look like the following, unless they have aligned with Tzeentch or are actual Daemons. My basic Chaos Space Marines will have the horns, but that's about it.
Wow. So, finally we get cool looking bikes instead of the ancient and lame boxy ones. And only $30 per!
Jiminy Christmas I wish another company would come along with the quality of GW but better business sense. Any independently wealthy venture capitalists out there that want to fund DreamForge? Please?
At least you have a great inspiration and example if you are good enough to sculpte/convert your own bikes.
Being years that i tried other models for CSM bikes, because regular bikes are too plain.
Started making conversions with DE reaver bikes, and i love it, but those bikes are really nice, better looking then the regular bikes, but the price might put a cold on people...
Price is in keeping with their other products so it shouldn't be a surprise. You get one full resin marine and two large resin conversion pieces along with I assume a full plastic scout bike kit.
That makes them better value than some of the sets like the MKIV Command set and the Apothecary set as you get the same amount of resin and a plastic kit thrown in.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I really like these bikes, but I really like the new Ravenwing bikes too and they're half the price and you get more stuff with them. Plus they have tl-plasma guns and the armour is good enough to use as heresy era.
Ravenwing command would be a good secondary source for those on a budget. Just depends how anal(ytical) you want to be about when mk6 came into use.
Uh, bikes look good, however, why does older tech look more advanced then newer bikes? Also, weren't preheresy/post heresy bikes actually jet bikes? When did the wheeled bikes show up in the 40k timeline?
FYI - Space Marine Bikes first made an appearance in the late 1980s with the 1st edition of Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, where they are referred to as the "Vincent Black Shadow".
krazynadechukr wrote: Uh, bikes look good, however, why does older tech look more advanced then newer bikes? Also, weren't preheresy/post heresy bikes actually jet bikes? When did the wheeled bikes show up in the 40k timeline?
FYI - Space Marine Bikes first made an appearance in the late 1980s with the 1st edition of Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, where they are referred to as the "Vincent Black Shadow".
40k tech is going backwards. Crusade/Heresy-era tech is almost always better than what they have ten thousand years later. They also did make extensive use of normal bikes. Jetbikes were still a lot more expensive and difficult to build, as opposed to the 41st Millenium, where they can't make them at all.
krazynadechukr wrote: Uh, bikes look good, however, why does older tech look more advanced then newer bikes? Also, weren't preheresy/post heresy bikes actually jet bikes? When did the wheeled bikes show up in the 40k timeline?
FYI - Space Marine Bikes first made an appearance in the late 1980s with the 1st edition of Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, where they are referred to as the "Vincent Black Shadow".
Is that name copyrighted? I want to be a superhero and name myself that.
krazynadechukr wrote: Uh, bikes look good, however, why does older tech look more advanced then newer bikes? Also, weren't preheresy/post heresy bikes actually jet bikes? When did the wheeled bikes show up in the 40k timeline?
FYI - Space Marine Bikes first made an appearance in the late 1980s with the 1st edition of Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, where they are referred to as the "Vincent Black Shadow".
Is that name copyrighted? I want to be a superhero and name myself that.
I love the bikes, and would love to add them to my Red Scorpions army, but that would run me $270 to make a full bike squad. Not gonna happen unless I win the lotto.
Melcavuk wrote: Not sure if its overly news worthy but the bikes are now listed at £45 for 3 (£15 each). Pretty sure they started at £60
Damn. Now I actually have to consider getting these. I wonder if they'll make an attack bike to go with them (Attack bikes always look goofy, I hope they could do something to rectify that.)
I know people like to moan about the paint schemes on Forge World stuff, but either my eyes are going (worse than normal), but the dark scheme and extreme white contrast makes the painted models difficult to make out details on, especially the recon squad!
Nice set of releases, the recon squad seems a little pricy for what you get, but the Thallax are great and more admech is always appreciated.
Hi there,
With a little over a week until the now sold out Forge World Open Day, today’s newsletter announces two new Legion squads and the eagerly anticipated Mechanicum Thallax Cohort available to pre-order now – we also aim to have all three of these kits available at the Open Day.
Mechanicum Thallax
The Thallaxii are heavily augmented cyborg shock-troops used by the Mechanicum Ordo Reductor, and they differ from the Skitarii regiments both in purpose and the unique degree of their augmetics. The Lorica Thallax, from which their name derives, was developed from power armour technology, and requires a robust human specimen to enable it to function to its maximum potential. Once integrated, it encloses its bearer’s major organs, nervous system and cerebrum, but entirely replaces their skeletal structure and limbs with armoured bionics powered by an internal reactor core.
Surgical excision of the subject’s pain sensors, emotions and normal human sensory apparatus, and the agony of the Lorica’s implantation, leaves the Thallax a cold, calculating killing machine, albeit one that retains a degree of independent thought. To some among the Mechanicum, this skirts the edge of abomination, yet the baleful Ordo Reductor continue Thallax conversion with suitable Forge Guard, fallen Skitarii, and subjects obtained from more mysterious sources.
The Ordo Reductor deploy these hulking war-robots both in their own forces and alongside the Legiones Astartes. Such long standing arrangements often result in the Thallaxii adopting the heraldry and iconography of their allies.
Designed by Will Hayes, the Mechanicum Thallax Cohort contains three multi-part resin models. These imposing and sinister models are a unique and exciting new development within our Horus Heresy range, being the very first Mechanicum unit to be designed, and their hunched profile, blank-faced helms and bulky armour are packed with detail.
Legion Reconnaissance Squad
Space Marines experienced in operating independently and behind enemy lines form dedicated Reconnaissance squads within the Legiones Astartes, acting as the eyes and ears of the main force. Equipped with a variety of specialised wargear including long-range sniper weapons, stealth gear and augmented sensor-auspex devices, the Legion Recon Squad function as scouts, gathering intelligence and mapping enemy movements and strengths.
Reconnaissance squads also serve their Legion as pickets, saboteurs, raiders and snipers where needed, striking at high value targets of opportunity. In open battle, they are expert in sudden flanking manoeuvres, and infiltration attacks in support of the main strength of the Legion.
Designed by Mark Bedford and Will Hayes, the Legion MkIV Recon Squad contains five multi-part resin models, each of which has two different weapon options: a sniper rifle or a shotgun. These models are packed with detail, from the long-range communications and targeting equipment carried by each of them to their camo demi-cloaks.
Legion MkIII Breacher Siege Squad
Combat that takes place during boarding actions amid the cold void or into a breached fortification, can prove lethal beyond even the endurance of the Legiones Astartes. For this reason, since the earliest days of the Great Crusade, specialised formations and wargear have been continually developed to better survive these ‘Zones Mortalis’.
The Legion MkIII Breacher Siege Squad is one such unit; clad in augmented power armour based on the Iron pattern and bearing great ablative shields. These squads act as a vanguard in such lethal missions, and are often additionally equipped with powerful breaching charges and lascutters or melta weapons, to destroy strongpoints and forge a path for the force’s main strength to follow.
Designed by Will Hayes, the Legion Breacher Siege Squad contains five multi-part resin models in modified MkIII ‘Iron’ armour, equipped with detailed boarding shields. The squad also includes five Phobos pattern bolters, as well as an optional lascutter, breaching charge and graviton gun.
Rules for all three of these units can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal. They are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 5th April, and we hope to have the Thallax Cohort, Recon Squad and Breacher Siege Squad on sale at the Forge World Open Day in limited numbers.
MkIV Outrider Squad Pricing Error The Legion MkIV Outrider Squad should be £45, rather than £60 as originally advertised; apologies for any inconvenience caused by this error. If you have ordered one of these kits at the incorrect price, a refund has been processed for you covering the difference in price and any relevant shipping cost, and you will have been notified of this by e-mail.
Forge World Events News Forge World Open Day, Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender 2013 We are now accepting reservation orders for the Forge World Open Day, Salute, and the Horus Heresy Weekender. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Open Day reservations by Tuesday 2nd April, Salute reservations by Monday 15th April and Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
Also are these the first Horus Heresy models to be painted up in Legion colours who weren't part of the original Betrayal book?
If it is it looks like they're trying to get some representation for the Book 2 Legions
That recon squad is awesome ! I'm rather dissapointed with the quality of the face, it's not brilliant to be honest. Other than that all of these look great
I'm ok with the Recon Squad. They look cool, but I'm not sure I'd use them.
I dislike the Ad Mech. I guess I'm not sure what I was expecting, but those look funny. The guns they carry look fantastic, and I like their backpacks (power engines, whatever). But the heads and legs look...odd.
Dunno. Maybe they'll grow on me like the Hell Drake and Forge Fiend did.
OK, that is the first time I've ever pre-ordered anything from FW, but hot-diggidy-damn those Thallaxii are gorgeous. Based on the WiP shots of the models I was skeptical, but the final result is...hell I don't even plan to have a Heresy-era army and I want them, hopefully a few of the blokes at my local club will be cool with me taking them as Elites for C:IG in my AdMech army.
Also: Iron Hands Breacher Squad? GG FW. Roll on book 2
I dislike the Ad Mech. I guess I'm not sure what I was expecting, but those look funny. The guns they carry look fantastic, and I like their backpacks (power engines, whatever). But the heads and legs look...odd.
Yes, they definitely look odd, and that's why I love them. They do not try to look conventionally 'cool', they're refreshingly bizarre.
Hopefully Iron Hands might finally be getting some love from FW, for a first founding they get no love from GW compared to other first founding chapters. Starting an army of them soon, so reinforcements will be greatly appreciated.
uk_crow wrote: Hopefully Iron Hands might finally be getting some love from FW, for a first founding they get no love from GW compared to other first founding chapters. Starting an army of them soon, so reinforcements will be greatly appreciated.
They participated in the Drop Site massacre, which is the subject of the next two Forge World Horus Heresy books, so I'm expecting to see them and their Primarch in one of those books.
uk_crow wrote: Hopefully Iron Hands might finally be getting some love from FW, for a first founding they get no love from GW compared to other first founding chapters. Starting an army of them soon, so reinforcements will be greatly appreciated.
They participated in the Drop Site massacre, which is the subject of the next two Forge World Horus Heresy books, so I'm expecting to see them and their Primarch in one of those books.
IH are supposed to be in the first, along with Sallies, I think Night Lords, and I forget the fourth one. The others are in book two.
Once again, Forgeworld knocks it out of the park. It's truly disappointing that we can't get Forgeworld's designers to work with GW's plastic manufacturing. Although perhaps the reason for is mostly due to the level of throughput GW is demanding.
Cards on the table: I don't like space marines. I find them boring. But I love these Forgeworld HH marines. I think it boils down to two things for me- they all look sinister, and they all look dirty. I would have much more respect for most spacemarine armies if they looked like they had been super-soldiers in a decades-long campaign and not technicolor fantasy knights in space.
As for the Ad Mech Thallax, lovelovelovelovelove. My only objection, and it's a small one, is that the dome head (which I presume is supposed to be some kind of glass bubble) makes them look too much like Eldar wraithguard.
I just converted one of my space marines using a sniper rifle from the scout set but had to shorten the shaft. Now I look at these models and FW did the exact same thing. But how can anybody be an accurate sniper if you cannot press a shaft into your shoulder for stabilization?
Those Thallaxii are amazing, definitely being added to my reservation for the open day I am slightly disappointed at the fact that the show only models haven't been announced yet, as I want to budget for them but don't know whether I'll like them or not yet.
uk_crow wrote: Hopefully Iron Hands might finally be getting some love from FW, for a first founding they get no love from GW compared to other first founding chapters. Starting an army of them soon, so reinforcements will be greatly appreciated.
They participated in the Drop Site massacre, which is the subject of the next two Forge World Horus Heresy books, so I'm expecting to see them and their Primarch in one of those books.
I just noticed that the black shoulders of the Painted Thallaxii have an Iron Hands symbol on them, which I'm guessing is how they would differentiate which legion they were attached to maybe? Different colour and symbol for the different legions?
Goliath wrote: I just noticed that the black shoulders of the Painted Thallaxii have an Iron Hands symbol on them, which I'm guessing is how they would differentiate which legion they were attached to maybe? Different colour and symbol for the different legions?
From above;
The Ordo Reductor deploy these hulking war-robots both in their own forces and alongside the Legiones Astartes. Such long standing arrangements often result in the Thallaxii adopting the heraldry and iconography of their allies.
Goliath wrote: I just noticed that the black shoulders of the Painted Thallaxii have an Iron Hands symbol on them, which I'm guessing is how they would differentiate which legion they were attached to maybe? Different colour and symbol for the different legions?
From above;
The Ordo Reductor deploy these hulking war-robots both in their own forces and alongside the Legiones Astartes. Such long standing arrangements often result in the Thallaxii adopting the heraldry and iconography of their allies.
I saw that, I was asking whether that might be the way in which the heraldry and iconography is adopted.
As for the Ad Mech Thallax, lovelovelovelovelove. My only objection, and it's a small one, is that the dome head (which I presume is supposed to be some kind of glass bubble) makes them look too much like Eldar wraithguard.
I actualy thought the same thing. Not that it's terribly bad, because wraithguard are great looking models.
I think I'm in the bag for 2 thallaxii cohorts and 1 recon squad.
Here's the big question: do the thallaxii only come with the lightning guns? Because I really want to do some of the options..
Those boarding marines are incredible and the Thallax even more so. Not bothered about the recon guys as I have already converted a squad of them but my "want" list on FW is growing by the week!
I emailed FW my Adepticon order about 15 minute ago. The advertisment on the Adepticon website says "have you email postmarked by the 28th of March," which is today.
Did that, didn't I'd have any problems.
But no.
Apparently you had to have them in by end of business in the UK on the 28th of March (which isn't stated anywhere on the Adepticon page) because the FW folks are all off work tomorrow. I learned all this in an email reply from an actual person, too, so someone is responding to emails. Can't believe it.
The reason for the March 28th, cut-off for AdeptICon is they have to get the inventory to the show. It takes a bit of time to get to orders sorted and to Chicago.
Forgeworld does preview items ahead of release. A practice I am sure we like to continue to encourage.
The items from the last 2 newsletters are not available to dispense until April 5th, which is after the AdeptiCon cut-off date. Whether they will be available and in stock in time to make the shipment for the AdeptiCon inventory is unknown.
I want some Thallax, Necron RoB, and Necron Flyers as much as anyone but I can understand them not wanting to take orders on items they don’t know timing and availability on.
That said it is still possible that some kits show up in limited numbers at the show.
Cincy, did you email them your order or try to call it in after noon?
muwhe wrote: The reason for the March 28th, cut-off for AdeptICon is they have to get the inventory to the show. It takes a bit of time to get to orders sorted and to Chicago.
Forgeworld does preview items ahead of release. A practice I am sure we like to continue to encourage.
The items from the last 2 newsletters are not available to dispense until April 5th, which is after the AdeptiCon cut-off date. Whether they will be available and in stock in time to make the shipment for the AdeptiCon inventory is unknown.
I want some Thallax, Necron RoB, and Necron Flyers as much as anyone but I can understand them not wanting to take orders on items they don’t know timing and availability on.
That said it is still possible that some kits show up in limit numbers at the show.
Cincy, did you email them your order or try to call it in after noon?
Oh, I get the reasoning, I just think they need to make it clear on the advertisement is all. I sent them an email today, as I was collecting orders from our group. I sent it around 2:15 EDT, and I realize thats after business hours close in the UK, but it didn't say that was a necessity, just that they needed to be in by the 28th. I'm just irritated because someone was emailing me back, that was in the office. Further, I had no idea that Good Friday was an "official holiday" in the UK. It's not a bank or Fed holiday in the US....
Anyways, they're just going to have to pay to ship the stuff to me now. I don't mind that a ton, but it's still irritating, especially since the last product I did that with came damaged, I couldn't exchange it straight away, and they didn't send the part when I called them.
Those recon guys...I think I found the basis for my Alpha Legionaires
As for the Thallax. They almost look too "futuristic" for the Imperium. They look like some kind of Tau or Necron invention. The head is the biggest problem with it, the body itself is fine.
Admech stuff's lovely - will get. I like the recon marines too but don't know if I can justify a third unit of scouts in my Relictors.
The Breacher Squad looks too similar to the already-available boarding marines, which I already own, so I'll pass on those.
The price drop on the bikes is a PITA, as I vowed to myself not to buy them at the old price point. the new one, however ...
Y'know, I promised I would buy no more Thousand Sons until I had finished the pile I have already. Might have to get them an allied Iron Hands army though. Perhaps with a Mechanicus detachment allied to them as well...
cincydooley wrote: Oh, I get the reasoning, I just think they need to make it clear on the advertisement is all. I sent them an email today, as I was collecting orders from our group. I sent it around 2:15 EDT, and I realize thats after business hours close in the UK, but it didn't say that was a necessity, just that they needed to be in by the 28th. I'm just irritated because someone was emailing me back, that was in the office. Further, I had no idea that Good Friday was an "official holiday" in the UK. It's not a bank or Fed holiday in the US....
Anyways, they're just going to have to pay to ship the stuff to me now. I don't mind that a ton, but it's still irritating, especially since the last product I did that with came damaged, I couldn't exchange it straight away, and they didn't send the part when I called them.
Sigh.....
Aye, Good Friday and Easter Monday are both bank holidays over here.
Just so people are aware, the only time from now you'll be able to get pre-orders in for the Open Day on the 7th is the morning of the 2nd, following a call to them this afternoon to check. Unsurprisingly, you won't be able to pre-order the show models.
"... being the very first Mechanicum unit to be designed..."
... that look nothing like previously established Ad Mech units in style, form or even general attributes (the flesh may be weak, but most Mechanicum guys still have some of it floating around their bodies). They're... too generic. They're just weird looking dome-head robots. Nothing about these guys screams 'Adeptus Mechanicus'. No baroque technology, nothing gothic about them. No red flowing robes and flesh-fused machinery.
I think a large part of the disconnect from the Mechanicus aesthetic is that reading the fluff on the Thallax (Disclaimer: I do not have the Horus Heresy book from FW) it seems to imply that the Thallax are looked at by the Mechanicus at large as something that goes beyond the tenants of the Machine Cult.
I kind of wonder if they're already starting to aim for things that could be labeled "Dark Adeptus" later on.
The Thallax are looked at by the Mechanicus at large as something that goes beyond the tenants of the Machine Cult.
What...you mean...they bought their own houses?!
Autocorrect's a pita ain't it?
The sad thing is, I'm not even typing on a phone. I was just writing part of a term paper which is dealing with the issues of implementing community policing stratagems in a community of short term housing.
Stupid brain thinking "tenants" when it should have been thinking "tenets".
"... being the very first Mechanicum unit to be designed..."
... that look nothing like previously established Ad Mech units in style, form or even general attributes (the flesh may be weak, but most Mechanicum guys still have some of it floating around their bodies). They're... too generic. They're just weird looking dome-head robots. Nothing about these guys screams 'Adeptus Mechanicus'. No baroque technology, nothing gothic about them. No red flowing robes and flesh-fused machinery.
The Thallax are looked at by the Mechanicus at large as something that goes beyond the tenants of the Machine Cult.
What...you mean...they bought their own houses?!
Autocorrect's a pita ain't it?
The sad thing is, I'm not even typing on a phone. I was just writing part of a term paper which is dealing with the issues of implementing community policing stratagems in a community of short term housing.
Stupid brain thinking "tenants" when it should have been thinking "tenets".
No worries buddy, I wouldn't normally bother with spelling, but the mental image of a load of tech priests huddled around an oil drum fire in an alley muttering about the failure of the state tickled me.
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Still like those Recon guys as Raven Guard Tac Marines.
"... being the very first Mechanicum unit to be designed..."
... that look nothing like previously established Ad Mech units in style, form or even general attributes (the flesh may be weak, but most Mechanicum guys still have some of it floating around their bodies). They're... too generic. They're just weird looking dome-head robots. Nothing about these guys screams 'Adeptus Mechanicus'. No baroque technology, nothing gothic about them. No red flowing robes and flesh-fused machinery.
Just robots.
I think you answered your own complaint. These are the first Mechanicum units to be designed, where they were recovering STCs like candy and pushing the boundaries of science and engineering. Of course they are not going to look the same as the Adeptus Mechanicus, which like the Imperium, is far more conservative and reactionary in their philosophy, clinging more tightly to their pseudo-religious tenets.
Actually, even now, those thallax are basically what the Iron Hands aspire to become.
"... being the very first Mechanicum unit to be designed..."
... that look nothing like previously established Ad Mech units in style, form or even general attributes (the flesh may be weak, but most Mechanicum guys still have some of it floating around their bodies). They're... too generic. They're just weird looking dome-head robots. Nothing about these guys screams 'Adeptus Mechanicus'. No baroque technology, nothing gothic about them. No red flowing robes and flesh-fused machinery.
MajorWesJanson wrote: I think you answered your own complaint. These are the first Mechanicum units to be designed, where they were recovering STCs like candy and pushing the boundaries of science and engineering. Of course they are not going to look the same as the Adeptus Mechanicus, which like the Imperium, is far more conservative and reactionary in their philosophy, clinging more tightly to their pseudo-religious tenets.
Uhh... Mechanicum = Adeptus Mechanicus. You're making a distinction that isn't there.
MajorWesJanson wrote: I think you answered your own complaint. These are the first Mechanicum units to be designed, where they were recovering STCs like candy and pushing the boundaries of science and engineering. Of course they are not going to look the same as the Adeptus Mechanicus, which like the Imperium, is far more conservative and reactionary in their philosophy, clinging more tightly to their pseudo-religious tenets.
Uhh... Mechanicum = Adeptus Mechanicus. You're making a distinction that isn't there.
Actually, I can kind of see what he is saying.
The "Mechanicum" and "Adeptus Mechanicus" might be the same thing, but the "Mechanicum" at the time of the Great Crusade/Horus Heresy was not really the same organization that we see with the "Adeptus Mechanicus" that we're so familiar with from the current timeframe.
I might be reading far too much into this, but that's how I'm kind of looking at this. What's more, the Thallax are definitely an interesting concept to work with. They are, from my rather limited understanding, a shell containing a brain and the major organ/nervous systems within the Lorica.
They probably could have just left off the "head" and gone with a Dreadnought looking approach but I like the 'faceless soldier' motif.
I really like their design, i'm hoping we see more Ad-Mech from FW relatively soon. All the Space Marine variants are cool and all, but something new and fresh would be welcome.
It would be doubly awesome if Forgeworld produced an Ad-Mech Codex. Oh... whoops, I appear to have strayed into the realm of the wish list.
MajorWesJanson wrote: I think you answered your own complaint. These are the first Mechanicum units to be designed, where they were recovering STCs like candy and pushing the boundaries of science and engineering. Of course they are not going to look the same as the Adeptus Mechanicus, which like the Imperium, is far more conservative and reactionary in their philosophy, clinging more tightly to their pseudo-religious tenets.
Uhh... Mechanicum = Adeptus Mechanicus. You're making a distinction that isn't there.
Mechanicum = 30K, prior to civil war with Dark Mechanicum and reorganization under Fabricator-General Kane.
Adeptus Mechanicus = 40K era.
The Admech grew out of the Mechanicum, but is far different, just like the Imperium of Mankind is far different in the "present" era than pre-couch potato Emperor era. If the various styles of pre-heresy and heresy Imperial equipment can look quite different from "modern" tech, why not Mars-tech?
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