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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/11 20:32:15


Post by: finnan


sounds like the way to go Dark_Gear - thanks for that. Hopefully I can be astonishingly lazy and get the laser cutter to do it for me!
When I was having a go at it this morning, I even changed blades on my scalpel thinking I had a blunt one in, but no, it was just a bitch to cut. Doesn't help that I was aiming for perfect 23mm circles on my first attempt! Bladey things hopefully a bit easier as it's a longer cut...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/14 23:02:30


Post by: Foolish_Hyena


Whoa loving the new models but I am sad to see the eldar go.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/15 00:51:34


Post by: Dark_Gear


Umm, why 23mm? Are you making your own bases?

If so, why not use another of my tricks.

Glue the really rough cut circles of plasticard to the base with plastic cement, not crazy glue. Let sit for 20 minutes or until fully cured. File smooth. Voila, perfect circular addition to existing base.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/15 04:47:59


Post by: Casey's Law


Just caught myself up on the blog mate!

That was a real shame about the Golden Daemon but your new plans look even better than before, i'm sure you'll blow the judges away this time round!

I'm going to be watching for progress eagerly from now on!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/15 06:20:57


Post by: finnan


a 25mm base is 25mm at the bottom - the actual flat bit at the top has a 23mm diameter.
That's a good suggestion Dark_Gear, I like it (still means fiddly cutting out of the markings... ) I haven't had a chance to get on the laser cutter this week, but apparently it's doable, we just have to fiddle with the settings/power levels and then run away when it's working as the fumes will probably kill us

@Hyena - the Craftworld Eldar are still knocking around, just taking a bit of a break from them

Thanks Casey >fingers crossed<


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/15 14:59:48


Post by: neil101


at some point in my life i will do an eldar army and when i do this is the only place i need to come for inspiration .. Big fan of all your work the latest symbols are fascinating to me as i know very little about the eldar.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/15 20:25:24


Post by: Dark_Gear


and then run away when it's working


Whoa whoa, back up a second.

Do you have your own laser cutter?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/15 21:02:40


Post by: finnan


lol no - we have two at work (I'm a Design & Technology teacher)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/16 07:31:57


Post by: BurstFire


If the Avatar of Khaine had a paint log, this would be it. An absolutely ridiculous level of painting and modeling. Godlike!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/16 19:55:29


Post by: finnan


>kneels and bows<
I'm not worthy!!

thank you very much BurstFire


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/18 08:48:24


Post by: finnan


... slow going on the DEldar - the greenstuffing is almost done, but it does take a while for it to dry properly, and I tend to get distracted while it's doing that. Plus I'm back into work-mode, so I'm not getting whole lot done during the week.

Just had another go at the plasticard, and I just don't think I'll be able to get it clean and sharp enough doing it by hand, especially all the tight corners on the symbols. So I'll wait and see if the lasercutter is any better. Hectic week at work coming up with our Department Review, AND, the 'cutter is on the fritz, so I'll wait until it's been serviced to have a go. I'll have to get everything drawn up in Illustrator first anyway.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/22 13:32:24


Post by: Krellnus


 finnan wrote:
lol no - we have two at work (I'm a Design & Technology teacher)

And thus it is finally revealed why you have so much free time


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/22 14:55:44


Post by: finnan


SOMETIMES I have a lot of free time, yes. During term-time, no, especially with my new fitness regime as well.
Haven't really been in the hobbying mood of late...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/22 22:16:37


Post by: Krellnus


During term-time?
Are you implying that teachers do something constructive?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/23 06:23:10


Post by: finnan


... feels... rage... building...

; )


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of course we do something constructive - we play around with all our lovely equipment on personal projects!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/24 11:28:13


Post by: finnan


Oh, the shame!
I'm a weak, weak man, and my breaking-stain-of-a-Kit Kat-willpower has plummeted to new lows. Either that, or Games Workshop is indeed an Evil Empire, and they have perfected their mind control technologies, and global domination will soon follow.
/looks meek and ashamed
I pre-ordered the Hobbit set (with the Company and Radagast). Rest assured Dakka-chums, I shall be punishing myself throughout the day!

I even bought White Dwarf too!
Clearly I'm having some sort of emotional breakdown and I am just going crazy. Crazier.



Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/24 13:36:28


Post by: nerdfest09


 finnan wrote:
I shall be punishing myself throughout the day!




This sounds wrong! ....... so wrong!

you know the first time i read your post I read it as you had plummeted to new lows by giving in and eating a Kit-Kat


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/24 18:15:40


Post by: finnan


obviously I knew I was going to be feeling extra-guilty through retail-remorse, because I skipped my Saturday morning cooked breakfast - it's been veggies all the way instead, so I'm KitKat free


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 16:47:18


Post by: finnan


minor update: apparently the laser cutters are all fixed at work, so they're good to go - yey! I'll try to remember to take the plasticard in tomorrow so I can have a play around with it. I've drawn up the bases on Illustrator and lots of bladey things, so we'll see how they turn out.

Still ashamed of the Hobbit pre-order.

Even more ashamed that I'm actually a little excited about getting my hands on the Hobbit stuff!



Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 20:21:20


Post by: Insacrum


Just remember, if you're exited about the hobbit stuff, perhaps one of your GD entries for next year can be with that.

I would expect them to allow those in under the LotR, or they'll change the LotR categories to be 'The Hobbit' categories... or even add 'The Hobbit' Categories.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 21:14:37


Post by: finnan


I hadn't even thought about that side of it - I was just assuming that they'd go in the LotR category... I wonder if they'd expand it to two categories? Or perhaps just have a Middle Earth category?
... have already considered doing a Thorin Chopping Off A Goblin's Head diorama... lol
(also, doing Radagast for LotR/Hobbit single miniature... I'm just waiting to see how he actually comes out in the flesh - I would have preferred the patterning on his coat to not have been sculpted on, so I'll need to have a look at it and consider how I'd tackle it)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 21:37:16


Post by: Ovion


LOTR has been replaced by The Hobbit now.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 21:42:37


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


Not really replaced, the rules in the Hobbit are for both.
Or, at least, that's what the GW website said yesterday, seems they've changed it...

The Hobbit rule book shows pictures of LotR armies (not Hobbit: an unexpected journey warbands) battling each other...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 21:53:31


Post by: Ovion


Well, yes, it'll still have rules for LOTR, but it's effectively an edition change, just instead of say, 6th edition to 7th edition it's Lord of the Rings to The Hobbit.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/28 21:55:47


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


ah, I thought you meant as in LOTR is gone, forever and that you have to play the hobbit, and can't follow the story of Frodo...

but, yes, you are right, it i basically an edition change


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/29 06:22:29


Post by: Gutsnagga


I really hope my massive amazing hardback LOTR rulebook is not now obsolete...

Anyway, Keep going Finnan! Really like you posing and modelling of the DE so far...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/29 07:11:05


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Sounds cool, You'll have to show us how that thing turns out!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/30 20:18:01


Post by: finnan


Let me rant for a moment Dakka chums.

I ordered some pigments from an online store at the start of the month, and when they hadn't arrived almost two weeks later, I e-mailed the store politely asking if they had a dispatch date. The reply I got was that they hadn't been dispatched, but would be the next day.
Not overly pleased at that, but I wasn't in a huge rush, and at least they were on their way.
Ten days later, still no pigments, so I e-mailed the company again asking for a tracking number. After a day, I got a reply with the tracking number as well as:
"I would suggest you to just have some patience "

I've just replied in a polite, yet annoyed way saying that I have already shown patience, especially considering the delays in that product already and that I expect prompt service from retailers, not advice to be patient. (the products still haven't arrived btw)
Now, is this just me pushing further into Grumpy Old Manhood, that I'm being narky about a flippant reply from a retailer to a product that hasn't arrived 24 days after the purchase date? I told a couple of friends about it tonight over dinner and they were outraged... I was a bit gobsmacked myself when I read it yesterday, and it still seems an incredible thing for a service provider to say to a customer. I'm actually a little impressed with myself for not replying immediately and with considerably more venom and vitriol than I did. Am I over reacting?

... rant over.

I also had a go on the laser cutter yesterday and got some stuff cut out - I'll try and do a proper update tomorrow with some pics for you.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/11/30 20:45:13


Post by: Ovion


Frankly, no.
The fact that after 2 weeks they simply hadn't even dispatched it, then almost a month after giving them your money, you don't have your product - 2 emails is hardly 'impatient'.

If you paid with paypal, I'd open a dispute. I also wouldn't purchase anything from them again.

A little while back I had some things take longer than they should to arrive, including the C. Land Raider to finish my CSM and some bits for Halloween. (was ultimately completely Royal Mails fault) but throughout the whole thing the owner kept in regular contact, replying swiftly to all emails, was apologetic, and queried royal mail for me.
While it arrived 10 days late, I have no problem with the store because of the owners response and attitude, and will use them again.
If they'd behaved as the guy you're dealing with has, not a chance.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/01 03:28:45


Post by: S'jet


I'd death-dance his ass!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/01 17:13:07


Post by: nerdfest09


Nope, you're not getting Old man on them Fin! you're getting 'Customer' on them for being slack and not doing their job properly which is communicate, sell and dispatch a product that they advertise! and that comment was judt rude! I am proud you held your breath counted to ten and didn't tell them to feth off in a big way!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/01 18:36:42


Post by: finnan


Update: the retailer in question as replied to my last message, saying that I am right, and has apologised for any offence caused. He/she then re-sent my purchase receipt, so I guess the pigments are on their way?
Moral victory for the Fin!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 08:44:04


Post by: finnan


Okay - here we go, some real progress for a change! The laser cutting experiment worked, although I should probably have played around with the power settings a bit to see if I could get them even crisper, but I only had the two small sheets of plasticard to play with, and bugger me it's expensive, so I had to go with what I had.
And the results aren't too bad at all - certainly a lot neater and quicker than me doing it with a scalpel, that's for sure. So, the plan is to get these on some bases, and then file off the excess - they're a bit bigger than the tops of 25mm bases at the moment. Then I'll stick on some of the blade shapes I also cut out, and then I'll have to decide whether to paint them separately, or stick the minis on and do them all in one go. I'm leaning toward separately at the moment. WHEN my day-glow pigments finally arrive, I'll do the lower part of the base/the cut out bit very bright indeed so it's as if the floor is underlit - also gives me the opportunity to do some sourced lighting on the minis.
One repeat on the bases as one of my original shapes was just too flimsy and it snapped coming off the sheet, but I can live with that.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 12:25:46


Post by: Dr H


Nice, they look good.
Did you keep the bits you cut out of those, coz they may be useful in the future?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 13:06:19


Post by: finnan


some of them, yeah, if they popped out whole. Some of them didn't, but they weren't vital to the plan, so what bits I do have are nice extras


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 13:31:55


Post by: nerdfest09


I can sense someone making a profit from DE inspied bases :-) hmmmmm if only someone had some individual designs they could utilize? ........


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 13:57:59


Post by: evildrcheese


 finnan wrote:
Let me rant for a moment Dakka chums.

I ordered some pigments from an online store at the start of the month, and when they hadn't arrived almost two weeks later, I e-mailed the store politely asking if they had a dispatch date. The reply I got was that they hadn't been dispatched, but would be the next day.
Not overly pleased at that, but I wasn't in a huge rush, and at least they were on their way.
Ten days later, still no pigments, so I e-mailed the company again asking for a tracking number. After a day, I got a reply with the tracking number as well as:
"I would suggest you to just have some patience "

I've just replied in a polite, yet annoyed way saying that I have already shown patience, especially considering the delays in that product already and that I expect prompt service from retailers, not advice to be patient. (the products still haven't arrived btw)
Now, is this just me pushing further into Grumpy Old Manhood, that I'm being narky about a flippant reply from a retailer to a product that hasn't arrived 24 days after the purchase date? I told a couple of friends about it tonight over dinner and they were outraged... I was a bit gobsmacked myself when I read it yesterday, and it still seems an incredible thing for a service provider to say to a customer. I'm actually a little impressed with myself for not replying immediately and with considerably more venom and vitriol than I did. Am I over reacting?

... rant over.

I also had a go on the laser cutter yesterday and got some stuff cut out - I'll try and do a proper update tomorrow with some pics for you.


Which retailer was it, out of interest? The laser cut bases look bad-ass btw.

D


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 14:01:04


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Wow, those bases look really cool! What exactly do you have in mind for them though?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 15:21:17


Post by: finnan


the Plan for the bases: a dark metallic grey and the cut out shapes are going to be neon light sources, so they're going to be a lot brighter... possibly think along lightsabre lines. They'll also have DEldar blade-like shapes sticking up out of them as well.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 15:59:54


Post by: Ovion


Neon Cyans, Greens and purples would fit best I think.
Look forward to seeing it.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 16:38:54


Post by: finnan


I haven't really nailed down what the DEldar's paint scheme will be yet, but yes, I was thinking along those lines too. I don't want clashing colours, I want them to harmonise to a certain extent... having said that, I change my mind every five minutes, so who knows what they'll turn out like


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/02 16:53:58


Post by: nerdfest09


 finnan wrote:
who knows what they'll turn out like



Duh!..... Awesome as usual!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/03 00:07:58


Post by: Archmagos_Amadeus


You should totally cast up those bases Finn. A whole army on these would look SPECTACULAR


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/03 00:14:47


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


Seconded!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/04 19:37:28


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


What about something (for the models) really cold and blue, to contrast your Eldar stuffs?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/04 20:59:11


Post by: finnan


I'm torn at the moment Urien - in my head I see them as quite dark, with black body suits and dark metallic armour with a greenish tint to it.... not terribly exciting or original to say the least. Maybe putting some bright markings on the armour or the suits...?
Option B is to do them with a splash of my Craftworld orange on them somewhere to show that they're an allied unit.

Option C, as you suggested is to go for something bright, but I'm not sure how I'd pull that off.
Dark metallic armour and bright body suit...? I worry that if I do that, they're going to look a bit unbalanced due to the kitbashing. Lots more though required!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/04 21:02:12


Post by: Sasa0mg


Love the shadowseer.
I'm curious how you did go about the dire avenger.


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The white one*


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/04 21:22:17


Post by: finnan


if memory serves, I think I just did a wash of Gryphs Sepia over a white undercoat and then probably a highlight of white...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/04 21:28:05


Post by: Sasa0mg


Simple :O wonderful. My DE are going to be mainly white im trying to find effective ways of doing it for an entire army so I found that dire avenger to be rather inspiring xD


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Do you think the same effect would work with other washes for example if I were to use a blue in place of the sepia?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/05 06:10:01


Post by: finnan


it should, yes - bear in mind that I was working with the old washes, and the new ones work slightly differently, but the technique is the same. It probably wouldn't hurt to thin them down a bit, then you can control the darkness you want more by doing more thinner layers.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/05 07:33:30


Post by: nerdfest09


And we all know Fin loves multiple thin layers!! :-)

I think perhaps you should leave a splash of orange in your DE to show their allied, not sure where yet probably need to have another look at your mini's primed to work something out?

how are you feeling about them now? still got the buzz for 'em?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/05 16:04:25


Post by: finnan


now that the bases are coming along, the buzz is coming back, definitely.
I was having a think about them today and I think there does need to be a splash of brightness somewhere, otherwise they're just going to be too dark, especially if the bases are going to be dark(ish) - there needs to be some contrast somewhere.
I'm a bit base-focused at the moment, but I agree with you Nerd, I need to have a good look at them again and see what would be possible and what would look good. (and what could snag me a Golden Demon at the same time!)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/05 19:04:19


Post by: Sasa0mg


 finnan wrote:
it should, yes - bear in mind that I was working with the old washes, and the new ones work slightly differently, but the technique is the same. It probably wouldn't hurt to thin them down a bit, then you can control the darkness you want more by doing more thinner layers.


When you do your washes, sorry for all the questions xD, but do you wash the entire surface or just the recesses?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/05 19:09:32


Post by: finnan


I generally dump it over the whole surface - washes for me aren't a very targeted technique. If I want to be more precise, I'd probably just undercoat in the darker tone and then take the time to highlight up to what I wanted. The potential problem with washes is that they might not dry completely smooth - they can be blotchy, so if it's smooth you're after, be prepared to do some highlighting!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/07 13:11:18


Post by: Dark_Gear


With the bases coming along, but seeing as how your sketches didn't show any details of walls or an arena ceiling, I thought you'd enjoy getting the design muscles jogged by seeing Julien Casses' great turorial on making an elven dome.

His blog is in French so I suggest you get Chrome in case you need the instructions translated. What Julien does with milliput and left over sprues is eye-opening.

Enjoy.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/07 19:52:03


Post by: finnan


that's really rather lovely - thanks for that Dark
I've done most of the greenstuffing I want to do on them, so I'll get a rough shout of them up tomorrow just to show the progress (they look a bit rough because of the 'stuffing!); I've done something similar-ish, I just got the spars cut out on the laser cutter instead of using sprues, but I like what he did with them. (I have trouble getting nice, clean, straight edges with milliput/greenstuff though!)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/08 07:56:17


Post by: finnan


here's the progress shots of the bases - as you can see, they're fairly rough at the moment, but I'm getting there with the greenstuffing - I just want some nice curves on the bases of the blades so that they look somewhat organic, rather than just having them plonked on. After that I'll be able to do a bit of sanding back and tidying up. Apart from the big blade from some Raider bitz I had, the rest all all blades I drew out in Illustrator and then laser cut at the same time as the bases.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/08 08:55:37


Post by: DijnsK


those bases look really cool and original!! great job


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/08 12:20:54


Post by: Dr H


Looking good so far Fin.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/08 21:28:04


Post by: grrrfranky


I've just spent my day reading through this blog, and I have to say, there's some really fantastic stuff in here. I'm particularly a fan of the wyches you're working on, and may have to steal the idea wholesale at some point, if I reckon I can do it justice.

The smoothness of your blending, and the patience required for it is incredible, and at first I couldn't believe that it wasn't airbrushed.

well done, and I look forward to seeing more,
Grrr


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/09 08:23:57


Post by: finnan


Glad you enjoyed it Grrr - welcome aboard!

Patience, yes. Sanity, no.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/09 16:46:13


Post by: finnan


Had to be done. Still very rough and lots of work to do on it!
(and introducing the new Stumpy - Corpsey the goblin!)

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/10 22:53:10


Post by: nerdfest09


That is cool as! love the look of it so far Fin :-) balancing on the small base is great it's giving me a feel of fighting on a boat or a tree top walkway!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/11 04:16:39


Post by: Dragon Warrior


Those Dark Eldar bases have a design and execution that is both elegant and brilliant.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/11 06:14:52


Post by: finnan


thanks guys : )
Nerd - it's the only way you can get some room to have some action on the bases, but still hit the criteria for the Duel category. As it is, I thought the boards would be too big, but I wouldn't say no to a bit more room, but there you go. I might see if I can sneak another Gobbo lurking underneath as well...
... now have 'Under the Boardwalk' by Bruce Willis going through my head... oh dear...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/28 18:50:26


Post by: Dr H


FINNANNNNNN! *shakes fist* You bad man you, I'm just starting the next 2 guardians for my army and I've just been looking through the gallery for inspiration for one of them as I had a good idea for the other and what do I find? I find your pair of heavy weapon guardians which is what I had in mind for one of mine!
Thankfully I have a little more mad scientist additions planned for mine, but I thought I'd had a unique idea there and you've beaten me to it.
Anyway, it looks fantastic as all your painting does.
So as you've been there I may as well ask you a couple of questions...
a) How did you do it? which heavy weapon did you use / which sprue are they from? What additions / modifications did you do to get them holding the weapons?
b) Did you have any thoughts on how they would be played? I'm not sure if you do play and I'm only curious because I'm a long way from playing with mine.

As it turns out I appear to have somehow missed about 10-15 pages in the middle of your blog, but have now rectified that.
Good job as always.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/28 19:00:23


Post by: finnan


nothing wrong with a few mad scientist ideas! Sorry I beat you to it though... although I doubt that I was the first to think of it.

I used the heavy weapons from the Corsairs upgrade pack from Forgeworld - very easy in that they're complete, separate arms. No mods needed at all
I'v never actually played... it's all about the pretty toy soldiers for me ; ) In my head, I'll play once I have an army to play with (that I'm satisfied that also looks good - here's a hint: it'll never happen lol), and that should that happen, I'll just count them as the heavy weapons team, and state which weapon I've chosen to use.
glad you enjoyed


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2012/12/28 20:07:03


Post by: Dr H


 finnan wrote:
nothing wrong with a few mad scientist ideas! Sorry I beat you to it though... although I doubt that I was the first to think of it.

Not a prob.

I used the heavy weapons from the Corsairs upgrade pack from Forgeworld - very easy in that they're complete, separate arms. No mods needed at all

Ahh, that'll be why they look like they're meant to be held then. Cool.

I'v never actually played... it's all about the pretty toy soldiers for me ; ) In my head, I'll play once I have an army to play with (that I'm satisfied that also looks good - here's a hint: it'll never happen lol),

That's exactly How I see my army so far, Models. But I do intend to play one day, but it's going to take a while for me to build the complete army I see in my head.

and should that happen, I'll just count them as the heavy weapons team, and state which weapon I've chosen to use.
glad you enjoyed

That's what I was thinking.

Ta.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/01/22 21:11:58


Post by: Dr H


Lo.

As it turned out the mad scientist in me got a little carried away with a simple task of "a guardian with a heavy weapon" and he ended up quite different to what your's looked like...
Spoiler:




Spoilered to avoid spoiling the look of your beautiful painting.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/05 20:52:32


Post by: finnan


Dear Dakka Chums

Please forgive me for not posting in such a long time (at least, it feels like a very long time), but I have totally lost my hobbying mojo. I look at my hoobying desk, and see the Dark Eldar and their bases, and I know i SHOULD be working on them, but just don't have the motivation to do anything about it. I could blame several things for this: the winter weather putting a dampener on things, several bouts of illness that have left me feeling tired and listless, a fairly serious medical scare that left little room for other things (panic over, but it was worth getting it checked out), and work being shittier than ever. All these things combined have dried up my creative juices. I really hope I can get them flowing again soon - any suggestions on how I could do this would be very gratefully received!

Hanging on in there

Fin


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/05 21:21:26


Post by: Dr H


Hang in there dude.

Sometimes you just need to take a break from things. If it's not grabbing you and doesn't feel fun then don't force it.

If there's something else that does it for you in the mean time, do that. You'll soon miss the models and we'll be waiting for you and your lovely painting when you come back.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/05 21:44:24


Post by: Rawson


 finnan wrote:
Dear Dakka Chums

Please forgive me for not posting in such a long time (at least, it feels like a very long time), but I have totally lost my hobbying mojo. I look at my hoobying desk, and see the Dark Eldar and their bases, and I know i SHOULD be working on them, but just don't have the motivation to do anything about it. I could blame several things for this: the winter weather putting a dampener on things, several bouts of illness that have left me feeling tired and listless, a fairly serious medical scare that left little room for other things (panic over, but it was worth getting it checked out), and work being shittier than ever. All these things combined have dried up my creative juices. I really hope I can get them flowing again soon - any suggestions on how I could do this would be very gratefully received!

Hanging on in there

Fin

Sounds like a bit of a rough spell there, finnan. Sorry to hear it!

I'm sure you know this, but working on projects because you SHOULD usually yields results that SHOULD be better

Whenever I need some 40k inspiration, I pick up a Black Library book. In fact, I think I've started a few armies because I read a good 40k book

Cheers,
Rawson


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/05 22:03:21


Post by: nerdfest09


Rawson speaks the truth! sometimes focusing not on the actual models but the world of 40K and the fluff and imagery can yield a much greater influx of inspiration for your hobby!

if you feel you 'should' be doing something then you really shouldn't be doing anything :-) it should feel like you can't wait to do some more! that's when you get back into it and do some great work mate!

you need some literature advice to get the inspiration? :-)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/06 07:25:36


Post by: Rawson


 nerdfest09 wrote:
Rawson speaks the truth!

Oh so sigged


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/06 11:57:16


Post by: nerdfest09


 Rawson wrote:
 nerdfest09 wrote:
Rawson speaks the truth!

Oh so sigged


Lol, well, I can't argue with the truth can I


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/06 20:13:26


Post by: GiraffeX


It will all come back to you when you're ready Fin, just don't try and force it.

When it happens to me I just go into lurker mode and browse the P&M Blogs and coolminiornot for a while until I hit something that inspires me. We will be waiting for you when you return


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/08 21:43:21


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Ha.... I think we all new this was coming. Once again, like after the GD, Finnan has failed us. What can we say.

JUST JOKING!!!!!!!!
Finn I'm sure you'll soon be feeling as right as rain, don't worry at all we all go through bad times. Try and do somethiing you loove for a bit, then return when you like, we're all cool with that.

KEEP CALM
AND LIKE FINNAN's PAINTING.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/10 15:34:54


Post by: Casey's Law


Sorry to hear that, fin. I recently experienced the same thing, as we all do time to time, and it's no fun. Firstly, your not alone so that might cheer you up a bit. Secondly I've found a cure for myself which a few people touched on here, it might help you. I won't quote it here because a) it's difficult on my phone and b) I think it's quite long but I'll direct you to the opening statements of my 'Nid blog. I hope my newly written introduction will help you in your quest for inspiration and motovation. If it doesn't help then just enjoy some hobby down time and do something, anything you enjoy.

Good luck, bud.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/13 15:13:25


Post by: Axlangel


Hey finnan I have been a fan of you for a while, but havnt had time to reply to you or comment on your work. I love everything you do. But I need your help D: I just got some spectres and I want them a white with a blue tint just like yours. so can you please fine sir, tell me how you did it? was it a white primer, ice blue/light blue wash. crevices washed with a darker color, and then pure white glazing for the rest? Thanks in advance!
Cheers


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/13 17:28:36


Post by: finnan


hi Axlangel : )
the recipe for Iryllith was, as far as I remember, a basecoat of Ulthuan Grey, and then probably a wash of some form of blue - vague I know, but I'm still using the old washes... so probably Asurmen Blue. Then I go straight in with thinned down (VERY thinned down!) white... either Skull white or Ceramite White, I haven't noticed too much difference in them once they've been watered down, and then just build up the layers nice and slowly to pure white.
The loincloth I based with Skink Blue and then again worked my way back up to pure white.

White is hard to do because it's so DULL to do! It requires patience, so take your time : )


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/19 23:00:32


Post by: Axlangel


Hey FInnan thanks for all the hep , I am right now painting up some spectres, not exactly in your recipe but a small variation to fit me. I cant get the perfect finish like you have but its close enough for me . I am only 13 tho and still have much to learn in painting. But anyway Thanks


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/20 07:35:48


Post by: finnan


13?! then you have energy and time on your side, unlike a grumpy old man like me!
Good luck : )


Automatically Appended Next Post:
right, slight movement on the hobbying front... some warm up painting has happened, and I THINK the DEldar bases are ready to be undercoated - I had to sand down the bottom of the base for sword and whip guy and figure out where he'd go and drill a hole for the pin. I now need to drill the hole for the flying stand for Trinity Kick girl, and they'll be ready to go...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/20 17:53:49


Post by: finnan


Bases undercoated - yey!
There's still some gaps to fill - boo! (I may shoot myself in the head... I'm a bit fed up of greenstuff... or I could pretend I haven't seen them, and carry on regardless... )

Also, presenting the first SDE dragon : )

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/20 18:10:05


Post by: Dr H


Bases look really good and the dragon is well painted.
Good job.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/20 19:42:31


Post by: nerdfest09


Wozza! good to see you back with some brush work! dragon is cute as a button and the bases are very promising ! can't wait to see them painted with figures!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/21 12:22:45


Post by: Cutthroatcure


Legit bases ya have made there!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/25 16:34:44


Post by: Axlangel


Hey Finn I love the new dragon, and the bases, but i must ask, what was the blue that you coated irillyth in? Doesent seem like its blue but more of a turquoise color, thank you fine ser in advance. Also I would like to know what you think of my irillyth atm, for I need a proffessionals oppinnion on it like yours. Should I post it here or send it to in another way if it is possible. Thanks.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/25 18:05:09


Post by: finnan


I used a couple of different blues - the blue on the sashes is a lot brighter, and that was the Skink Blue.
it's up to you with your Irillyth - you can post him on here or send me a private message, I don't mind which : )


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/26 21:05:35


Post by: finnan


If you have a look in the New & Rumours forum, you might have seen a thread started about the cancellation of the European Games Days, and possibly the Australian one too. I was a little surprised at this, but not totally shocked considering the economic climate - it must cost an incredible amount to organise, set up, run and pull down a show like that.
My immediate thought, however, was the impact it would have on Golden Demon in the UK. Other Dakka chums have commented on that thread that the European painters will just enter into other painting competitions. I wouldn't see it as a stretch that they would enter into the UK GD. I'm not against this, I think it'd be great - I've always been blown away by the French and Spanish painting in particular. However... I wouldn't even dare put myself up to their standard, and if they did enter, that would make the competition even tougher... I'm a little bit ashamed to say that the thought that ran through my head was "Why should I even bother now?".
As many of you might know, I put a lot of effort and time and energy (both physical and emotional) into entering GD last year, and I had significant plans to enter this year... which were already wavering. I'm not sure what to do now. My hobbying mojo wasn't exactly strong anyway, and now... ? Is even more pressure on to perform to an even higher standard? Do I just go back to painting for fun, but miss that external motivation (and validation)?
Worrying times, my chums. Is this another bit of the GW empire crumbling away? I don't think I'd even like to say.
Anyway, those are my (confused) thoughts at the moment, just putting 'em out there.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/26 21:14:48


Post by: Flashman


Hmm... personally I think you're going about it the wrong way mentally.

I think your stuff is great, but painting minis is an all too subjective art. Consequently, you shouldn't really be entering a competition like GD expecting to win. You can only try and capture the attention (and imagination) of the judges.

You did this last year with your Eldar Wraithlord, which got a "commended" or some such. Who's to say that on another day when the judges may have been in a different frame of mind, that it wouldn't have won?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/26 21:22:06


Post by: finnan


I know Flash... and I'm trying to stay vaguely positive about it all, but it's just thrown me somewhat. What with my motivation fairly low at the moment, this hasn't helped to pick it up... I did think this morning on the drive into work that this could mean that I could just paint the DEldar, and not worry if they weren't PERFECT, and that was a mildly satisfying thought... although a small part of me was screaming quite loudly "They HAVE to be PERFECT, dammit!" lol
Sadly, all I got for the Wraithlord was a finalist place (I'm not sure that counts as a commended?)

But you're spot on though - the judging is all too subjective in these things, especially when the actual judging criteria is fairly mysterious, and it really does depend on their frame of mind as well as the other entries.


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(thinking about it, I'm not entirely sure why I'm so dead set on getting a Golden Demon, other than it would be proof of outside validation, and it would be a measure of my work... Is that really all that important? [probably not])


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/26 21:54:08


Post by: Dr H


Painting minitures, like many things, is a hobby for most people and is meant to be fun and rewarding in its own right.
We all like to receive praise for our efforts. But that shouldn't be the reason to be painting.

The painter is his or her own harshest critic but (I think) is the most important opinion. If you like what you are doing and can honestly sit back and say to yourself that you have done your best then that is what counts.

Any extra, like the occasional on here or a trophy from a competition, is just a bonus. It shouldn't be the driving force behind the painting because no one is going to win everything and if you are only interested in winning then the losses will be harder and motivation will fall and the wins will come less frequently.

Painting is an art, and art is supposed to come from the heart not the head. If you don't love your own work, then it won't show through for anyone else.

That's my thoughts anyway (although I'm sure I was going to say something else).


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/27 06:21:35


Post by: finnan


wise words Dr H, I agree with every single one of them. I know that my heart just isn't in it at the moment.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/27 12:24:49


Post by: Dr H


Well, don't force it. Let it happen naturally and you and your painting will be all the better for it. You'll soon have the painting itch again.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/27 13:02:14


Post by: Gitsplitta


finnan: I haven't had time to go through your whole blog yet, but I'll make the time. Looks like fantastic work. What attracted me at a glance was the current subtitle for your thread... Props for the Pinky & the Brain reference. Brilliant!



Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/02/28 18:15:24


Post by: Cutthroatcure


I can relate to losing the nerve for a bit, itll come Fin you do great work and it will call back to you!~


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/01 09:47:16


Post by: VaUgHaNy86


Your painting is some of the best I have ever seen, and your Wraithlord conversions and painting is what inspired me to convert my own, its been built now for nearly 6 months but I will not touch it with a brush until I can get my blending as smooth as you get yours as I think that is the only way to do justice to it, your techniques have helped me improve my painting massively and the fact that you only made it to the finalist stages of Golden Demon last year I found unbelievable (I say only its far further than I'd ever get) I know your on a low ebb with the painting at the minute but when I get to that point reading a new book to do with my army of choice or looking forward to a new codex or new models for them always get me raring to carry on with them, (also just stepping away from the hobby altogether for a month or so can help as sometimes I get a little 40K burn out)
Anyway a bit rambling but what I'm trying to say is we all think your stuff is amazing, validation from outside things like competitions is nice but isn't the most important thing because these can sometimes be unfairly influenced and have weird judging criteria like GW seeming to like in my opinion an over use and often unrealistic use of weathering which I'm not a big fan of personally so I really wouldn't let it get you down, the most important part is you enjoy what you are doing
Sorry for the long rambling post :p


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/10 11:50:10


Post by: finnan


more dragons done, and I feel as if I'm warming up a bit more, so that can only be a good thing. Also minimal progress on the DEldar bases, but so minimal it's not really worth taking a shot of it.

I was a huge fan of the D&D cartoon back in the day, and of the Dragonlance novels, so it seemed obvious to do the dragons in the old chromatic colours ; ) I have a few more of them, so it might be time to address the alignment balance and do some metallic ones ; )
Pretty quick and rough (for me), but they're cool. The black on e doesn't show up too well because he's so dark, but you get the idea.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/10 12:01:15


Post by: Dr H


Good to see you getting back into it.

I like the two together and the black one.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/10 14:02:19


Post by: nerdfest09


AWWWWWWW those two widdle ones are so cute! :-) and the black one while not cute is pretty damn good too!

when people say you should start on something small to get back into it you really took it literally didn't you Woz! the detail blend on the eyes are brilliant, perhaps you should do something bright again to zing your mind into paint mode?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/10 18:41:10


Post by: finnan


because you asked so nicely Nerd...
Still working on it - I need to put more yellow in as a highlight, but as ever, you get the idea. Someone said that for Golden Demon you should put just as much time in on the bases as the figure, well I'm certainly doing that with these - they're taking an AGE to do...
(the hole in it is for the pinning on the mini's foot) looking at the shots I want to go in and smooth out the glow - I'm trying out the fluorescent pigments I got and they're very powdery (even diluted down), so I think I'll go over the glow edge with some normal paint again...

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 10:07:34


Post by: nerdfest09


That is going to look amazing Fin! a really different and good looking approach to a base, simple and very effective without overpowering the mini to go on it :-) you sir...... are BACK!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 11:38:07


Post by: Novelist47


Dude you got some pretty cool shet here, and i enjoy it immensely, keep it troop.
Extra cheers for the whole tron theme, they fit eldar very well. Also them scourges you got, bloody fuq'n AWESOME. that bronze armour one was beast and don't let me get started on the white one.
Cool work and oh and



GO GO POWER RANGER


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 14:59:42


Post by: grrrfranky


Looking forward to seeing more on the bases, that looks pretty good already.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 20:37:25


Post by: finnan


some more work done on the bases. I need to beef up the glow on the purple one.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 21:03:14


Post by: Dr H


Looking good so far. I like where they are going.

Have you decided on what colour the figures are going to be? Wouldn't want them clashing with their bases...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 21:12:18


Post by: finnan


no idea yet! I'm still thinking blacks, greys and yellows though, so I should be okay with the bases (I did think about that when I chose the colours!), and if that is the scheme, the purple ones will only serve to make the yellows stand out more... the other option is a deep ruby red... not sure though.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/11 21:41:28


Post by: Dr H


Good O. I was sure you would have thought about it, but I was seeing each new base with a different colour and could see scheme choices going out the window.

Sounds good with the yellow. But see how it goes. You know what you're doing.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/14 20:41:46


Post by: finnan


More base progress. I'm not terribly pleased with the green one at the moment - I can't seem to get it bright enough, but I don't really want to resort to highlighting up with white, but I don't think I'm going to have too much choice. It's just too flat at the moment. I've always been a bit rubbish at doing greens, so this might be my Green Curse coming into play.
The others aren't looking too bad. One more to do which is going to be blue, so I'll see how that one goes. If it goes okay, I might switch the green to blue...

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/14 21:01:33


Post by: Dr H


Looking cool.

Something you can try with the green is using yellow to lighten the green layers and, if you want to be really bold, highlight with yellow.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/14 21:02:48


Post by: finnan


that is highlighting with yellow Dr H :( It's just coming out slightly 1970s avocado bathroom suite... I think I'm going to have to go with the white


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/14 21:48:48


Post by: Dr H


Oh dear.

Maybe it's the picture, but I can't see yellow in it. The orange one for example, I can see it's a light orange through to red. The green one looks like it's green to green.
Not that I can teach you about painting. Can you not be more bold with the yellow? A bit like this:
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But obviously smoother. More like the claws rather than the gun.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 06:24:32


Post by: finnan


the shot isn't great, I'll give you that, but I think the real problem is that there's a lack of room (plus my inability to do greens!) - it's such a tiny space that I don't have much space to blend from the green to the yellow and have enough of the yellow showing for it to register. I think the widest parts of the icons are about 2 or 3mm, so not much to work with... having said that, I'm not entirely sure why it's working on the other ones and not here as it's not as if there's a ton more room on them. I could try starting off with a darker green base and glow and build up from there...?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 11:16:27


Post by: Dr H


I hear you on the lack of space. Keep at it and good luck.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 11:27:53


Post by: Gitsplitta


I blend from green to yellow all the time. It's tricky. You need to start very dark (as you suggested) and blend up through nearly pure yellow. Problem is that yellow paint is translucent... so it doesn't cover the green... rather it tints it. So to get a brighter highlight with yellow you've really got to be pretty heavy handed. However, it's always better to do many thin layers than one thick layer.

Here's an example of a recent figure just after airbrushing.
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Then to make it a richer, more vibrant green... I washed the figure with somewhat diluted Biel-Tan Green, but then pulled most of the wash off... I just wanted to tint the figure towards blue... which the wash did nicely.
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I used to shade up through white. The problem is that this seems to wash the figure out quite a bit, making it appear much more "flat". Something I wouldn't recommend for a GD entry.
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Hope this helps!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 14:06:20


Post by: Cutthroatcure


<3 the dragons!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 14:15:19


Post by: nerdfest09


Hi Fin, I also suggest the blending up to yellow! and what Gits says is actually the best benefit to doing it, the yellow is translucent so you can adjust the level of brightness as you go with your layers, I know you're no stranger to multiple layers (ridiculously so) so you should be able to fine tune it easily? I blended the greens on my sallies with yellow as I wanted a look like the image on the front of the book. I could have gone further with pure yellows but I wasn't that committed time wise here's a couple of examples from my stuff.






So quoting from The Waterboy.................. "YOU CAN DO IIIIIIIT"


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 14:54:55


Post by: mars2024


For what it's worth, Finn, I just wanted to share a little bit of how you've inspired people:

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Here's what I've been working on this week.






It's not as good or as original as what you put out, but I always appreciate your advice and hard work. I'm looking forward to more on your bases and whatever else you cook up. Also, keep drawing.

Thanks again.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 20:02:52


Post by: finnan


Mars - as soon as I saw the image, I went "oooh!", which is always a good reaction! Loving the momentum and motion on the completed figure - great stuff. Glad I could give someone some help! : )

Gits & Nerd - I think yellow is the way to go for a vibrancy of colour with the green base, and some very tasty examples to have : ) What yellow did you use to highlight up? I tried it with Sunburst, but I think I might have to go up through Golden and Sunburst... Again, the problem is that I have a decided lack of space in which to work - I notice that both your blended highlights are super-smooth (and lovely - frankly jealous), but they also have quite a bit of room in which to work... I think I'm going to have to start again with Dark Angels Green as the base, work up through to a lighter green for the inside edge of the glow and outside edge of the icon, and then go in with the yellow... Or ditch the idea of green, and totally cop out and do another blue or orange...


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... the other option is to do the inside of the icon white, and then just have a coloured glow on the outside, lightsabre-style. That would be very strong and bright though...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/15 23:57:02


Post by: Gitsplitta


Well, since I'm using Vallejo paints... I go from Vallejo Air "Yellow" up through Vallejo Game Color "Moon Yellow"... which is an equivalent to the old GW "Bad Moon Yellow", a color I adored.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 02:43:00


Post by: paintitblack


Been lurking this thred for what seems like 2 years now. I just wanted to say ive been painting a long long time and i wish i could come close to your abilities.good to see your painting again.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 09:03:38


Post by: finnan


"In brightest day, in blackest night... "
attempt two for the green base... I think it's an improvement, but I'm not entirely sure!
I took a shot of it, and then looked at it and though t it looked awful - pasty and clunky, and then I took another couple of shots of it, and it looked hideously bright, and then okay... so I don't know what to think any more!

I think it could do with a bit more of a highlight, and then a glaze of either green or yellow.

Paintitblack - good to have you aboard amigo!



Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 09:18:13


Post by: cormadepanda


i think that is very just right to me.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 11:38:14


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think it's just a matter of the exposure of your camera rather than the way you painted it. Looks like you blended it up through white rather than yellow? In any case, I think it looks quite good. Certainly pops nicely.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 11:56:23


Post by: finnan


same exposure... just different angles...
I kind of did both, white and yellow. I went over the previous version with Dark Angels to darken it up, and then smoothed it out with a wash of Thrakka. Then straight up to a highlight with Moot Green, and then I did a highlight with the fluorescent green pigment made up with yellow wash, then a highlight of pure fluorescent and then a highlight of the pure fluoro mixed with a little bit of Ceramite.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 12:06:53


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think it's very well done. How does it look in comparison with your other bases? Does it look "right" when mixed in with them?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 12:40:12


Post by: finnan


doesn't look too out of place - all in all I think I'm fairly satisfied... (he says, sitting on the fence lol)

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 13:46:42


Post by: Gitsplitta


Stick the fork in it... it's done.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 14:21:49


Post by: nerdfest09


Fin, that's got it mate! looks great, when i look at it I get a feeling of looking through green water with a light source under the water :-) very well done! you should hop off that fence and sit your feet firmly on the it's good side!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 14:27:35


Post by: finnan



very poetic Nerd! ; )
thanks for the votes of confidence guys

speaking of water, I'm undecided about whether to put a coat of water effects over the icons so that it looks like glowing liquid... might be too much, and I don't want them to be too overpowering or distracting.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 15:18:58


Post by: nerdfest09


Nope, no effects Fin, let your brush do all the talking! the water effect changes it too much imo.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/16 21:24:51


Post by: finnan


all the bases pretty much done - yey! A little bit of tidying up to do on the blue, but other than that they're good to go

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/17 12:00:40


Post by: finnan


looks like the gang's all ready to go - now to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with them!

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/17 12:46:23


Post by: grrrfranky


Pretty bases, that glow effect works really well.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/17 16:24:10


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Jesus this looks cool.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/17 18:26:51


Post by: finnan


So it begins...
Just some blocking out and washes so far today. I've decided to go with a colour scheme that gives a nod to my Craftworld colours, because they're simple, strong, slightly unexpected and I can say that they're either a Corsair band associated with my Craftworld, or the Wych cult is just showing its (temporary) allegiance to the Craftworld.

Normal basecoat of Blazing Orange that will be highlighted up to yellow; a bit darker on the helm. Boltgun on the armour, Codex Grey on the undersuit and then liberal washes of black. I want the undersuit to be black/grey, the armour a nice metallic grey and the yellow to be the contrast. Flail I think I want gold, and the huskdagger can be bone... maybe... A looonnnngggggg way to go yet.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/17 18:28:19


Post by: nerdfest09


YESSSSSSSSS! he's back and just as good as ever! Oh MAN I can't wait for more!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/17 20:34:43


Post by: Dr H


Great job on the green Finnan and good to see the figures getting their colours.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/18 20:04:39


Post by: finnan


Some work done on the metallic sections of the armour - just highlighting up with boltgun and then with Mithril Silver. Looking quite nice, but I'm a bit suspicious because it came together quite quickly. I'm tempted to give them a thinned-down wash of black, just to knock it back a bit and re-highlight up, just to hammer home the brightness. Not sure yet though.
I need to do a bit more work on the back, but the shot looks darker than it does in the flesh.

I'm going to aim to be a bit more disciplined with myself and my painting and get a little bit done each evening I get home at a reasonable time (Tuesdays and Wednesdays are yoga and pilates, so I get home late)... we'll se how long it lasts.

I'm also SORELY tempted to throw in on the Drake Kickstarter... have I mentioned my weakness for dragons?

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/19 03:18:39


Post by: Robbo97


Wow that Orange!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/19 06:20:11


Post by: finnan


lol I haven't even started to do anything with the orange yet!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/19 17:34:10


Post by: Cutthroatcure


I love the bright emblems!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/19 21:03:12


Post by: finnan


glad you like Cutthroat : )

And I've hit the 165,000 hit mark! Thank you to everyone who has a look at my thread, and I hope you're still enjoying it or getting something out of it. Here's to the next 165,000 hits!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/19 22:07:19


Post by: nerdfest09


 finnan wrote:
glad you like Cutthroat : )

And I've hit the 165,000 hit mark! Thank you to everyone who has a look at my thread, and I hope you're still enjoying it or getting something out of it. Here's to the next 165,000 hits!


now this sounds like a man getting his model mojo back!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/20 19:08:47


Post by: Osis


Fethin' amazing. Flat fethin' amazing.
Finnan, I've spent the last day going through all this. I happen to think that the Eldar (of any flavor) don't get enough love, so I want to thank you for posting yours. This may be the most beautiful I've seen in years, perhaps ever.
I'm sorry to see that you've been struggling with painter's block (is that a thing?), and delighted to see that you've started again. Those bases are outstanding.
Osis


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/20 20:20:35


Post by: JensDK


Really loving the vibrant colours and the super dynamic i'm-comming-to-murder-you models =)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/21 19:31:38


Post by: finnan


I totally agree that Eldar don't get enough love!

Glad you're liking the bases Osis and Jens! : )
(Osis - you get bonus points for wading through all 55 pages! lol)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/23 07:53:56


Post by: finnan


a little bit of work done. Oh, Golden Yellow, how I've missed you!

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/23 09:36:34


Post by: LadyCassandra


Absolutely beautiful, finnan. I don't know if I've ever actually posted on this thread, but I've had it subscribed and check it whenever there's an update for over a year now. So I thought I'd give my appreciation for the gorgeous work you do on these lovely little minis.

Also loving your blue and orange bases especially. I still think the green base needs more yellow, specifically a very almost lime green yellow. Perhaps a fluorescent?

Or something like this:
Spoiler:


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/23 10:49:26


Post by: finnan


Thanks Lady C : )
the green base does worry me a teeny tiny bit, but going up through lime green to yellow just didn't work... and I foolishly didn't order any fluorescent yellow pigment, so I can't go that route : (
I'm basically happy with them, and I don't want them to stand out TOO much and have the attention pulled away from the mini... we'll see though, I may go back and brighten them up somewhat : )


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/23 11:03:56


Post by: LadyCassandra


 finnan wrote:
Thanks Lady C : )
the green base does worry me a teeny tiny bit, but going up through lime green to yellow just didn't work... and I foolishly didn't order any fluorescent yellow pigment, so I can't go that route : (
I'm basically happy with them, and I don't want them to stand out TOO much and have the attention pulled away from the mini... we'll see though, I may go back and brighten them up somewhat : )

True, true, the others look awesome (especially the blue, which I want to steal for my army, would love a tut sometime, I struggle with all my blue OSL glowing eyes). It's just the green one looks strange with white in the middle, it might be because I'm so used to seeing lime green LED lighting.

If you do decide to go back to them, I believe Vallejo do a fluorescent range. Ah yes, Fluo Yellow (or possibly green). Here's some thoughts about it and examples on Warseer.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/23 12:08:22


Post by: finnan


the blue was a base of Sotek, for both the icon and the outer glow, then highlighting up with Temple Guard, then fluro blue, then Baharroth, and then Baharroth with some Ceramite mixed in : )
I have noticed that for OSL you need:
a) to be good at your blending
b) lots of room so you can get a nice smooth transition (which is part of the problem with the bases - room is somewhat tight!)

It might be worth trying to get hold of some fluro yellow...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 16:34:28


Post by: finnan


First highlight layer of yellow done (I think... no doubt I'll see something I need to do in the shots).

Also Drake backed on Kickstarter. I'm a weak, weak man.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 17:41:30


Post by: Axlangel


Woww that orange is so well painted. The blending is exquisite like always and the color is very pure, Cheers keep up the good work!
Also ill be posting the pics when I figure out how I can transfer them to my computer.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 18:10:30


Post by: Dr H


Looking really nice so far. Good job.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 19:21:11


Post by: nerdfest09


Fin it looks as if you may be back into the swing of it now! that blend is as usual for you, superbly done! you know just where to leave the highlight without going ott with it, simply mind blowing and it's nowhere near done yet! are these going to be entered in GD this year?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 19:26:18


Post by: finnan


More highlighting. The nice thing about taking so long to highlight up the yellow from the orange is that the next couple of levels of highlighting do tend to happen quite quickly. I think I still need to smooth out the blending a bit on the helm a little.


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sorry Nerd - only just saw that you'd commented. Yeah, the plan is that these guys are going to be my GD entry for this year... plus Irillyth if I can get him done too. Bearing in mind some of the GD advice given to me on here, I've pushed the highlighting a bit further than perhaps I usually would, but I'm glad it's looking smooth and not too much. Hopefully he's not looking too bright and cheerful now that he's so bright... but just wait until the flail is done and the blood splatters are on the blade ; )

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 21:27:40


Post by: Charky


The blending of the colours are so smoooothe and clean man, really love it!

The colourscheme is also a really good one, cant wait to see the model done, keep it up bud!

Btw what is the trick? Alot of water in the paint and you just simply blend it? ;D


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/24 23:18:03


Post by: Casey's Law


Glad you're back to form, fin. Loving this new chapter of your work!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/25 01:25:07


Post by: Gitsplitta


Your blending is spectacular fin... wow.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/25 06:21:53


Post by: finnan


as ever Dakka chums, thank you for the praise, I always feel humbled at your words and that you like what I'm doing : )

Charky: yes, thin down the paint a fair bit with water (I'm curious to see how it would work with acrylic medium, but I suspect that the drying time would increase if I did that), and then lots of thin layers.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/26 21:57:52


Post by: finnan


Not really an update... but I bought some of the Vallejo Liquid Gold pigments today - not been too happy with the new GW metallics, so I thought I've give these a go as I'd heard some good things about them. I want the weapons on the DEldar to be objects of beauty as much as the Wyches themselves - part of the 'beautiful death' vibe they have, and I think these paints might add some depth to them... we'll see : ) I think I'll have to have a bit of a play with them first as they're alcohol based and need different handling to the usual acrylic paints.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/27 00:11:27


Post by: Gitsplitta


The alcohol based ones? If so, I think they're really good. Been quite happy with mine. Gives an amazingly authentic looking gold color (my favorite is "old gold").


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/27 06:28:38


Post by: finnan


that's the ones Gitsplitta - I got Rich gold and White gold for the highlight, and then the Copper and Red gold...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/27 09:35:31


Post by: Gitsplitta


Look forward to seeing how they work for you!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/27 20:53:01


Post by: GiraffeX


Yeah they are really nice paints, looking forward to seeing your results.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/30 15:52:20


Post by: finnan


Have done some more work on the DEldar - the undersuit highlighted up, and then little touches like the tubes for the combat drugs, a couple of gems, and the husk dagger. I also picked up my Vallejo Liquid Gold paints today, so I've been able to have a bit of a play with them - yey! They go on super-easy and give really good coverage, not like the GW metallics where you really have to work at getting a smooth coat. I do smell like a total wino now though as I kept spilling the surgical spirit I got to clean my brush with, but that's a small price to pay!
All I've done with them so far is to do the bangle on his ankle and the flail. I've given the flail a wash of Gryphs Sepia to deepen it up, and I'll go in and do a couple of highlights. The bangle is just the base gold, which I think I'm not going to wash as it's such a tiny area. I might do a highlight though.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/30 17:07:31


Post by: Casey's Law


Great progress, fin. That gold is a nice vibrant match for the orange. It'll be interested to see how it's effected by pairing it with other colours.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/30 17:52:24


Post by: finnan


I have one other guy with a flail, so there might not be too much gold throughout the team as a whole (I have a cunning plan that requires lots of metallics for the future... >coughDrakedragonscough<, so hopefully it won't be a huge concern. The other weapons are either going to be glowy agonisers or dark crystal blades... I think... ; )


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/30 17:55:02


Post by: nerdfest09


Glowy agonisers! and crystal blades! even your words are painted well....


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 17:47:07


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Amazing bone and armour, but the gold clashes a bit for me...

I don't know if you hate the idea of doing it again, but might it be better as a blue-steel to contrast with the warm armour?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 18:51:44


Post by: finnan


No, I'm not averse to redoing it... I'm not completely sold on the blood I've put on it and the base blade, and I do like the idea of the contrasting cold-tint metal for the blade. Any others out there with any preference?

I've stuck him on the base, and am just greenstuffing the joins, then I think I might have another crack at the green, but this time maybe start off with my brightest acid green and go darker from there...

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 19:07:08


Post by: Casey's Law


Not feeling the base yet to be honest, bud. Not sure if it needs finished to bring it together or whether i just don't fancy it. I think you're feeling the same, go with your gut.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 19:09:00


Post by: finnan


(I haven't painted the rock yet...)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 19:33:36


Post by: GiraffeX


I think you need to go brighter with the green on the base, something like on his tubes. That would also tie him to the base nicely.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 20:01:20


Post by: nerdfest09


How smart ass are you feeling Fin? with those models and poses after seeing that one on the base, I think something outside the square would be great! the bright armour reflected in the base as if it was liquid would be amazing! :-) as if he's jumping over water or a pool of viscious fluid!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 20:27:20


Post by: Casey's Law


Haha, yeh that's what I mean. Painting the rock might finish it up nicely and bring it all together. Although I'm more than slightly excited by nerdfest's idea. A reflection would be so cool it hurts.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/03/31 20:54:46


Post by: GiraffeX


^^ What NF09 says, kind of like reverse OSL from the model to the base like a shimmering reflection.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 05:42:35


Post by: finnan


no pressure then... ?
I have no idea how I'd even go about putting a reflection in... other than to put random shapes into the 'liquid', and I'd have to do the dark as well as the orange... I'd also have to put a shadow in on the base to represent him jumping. Not sure that there's enough of a pool of 'liquid' for it to communicate as a reflection, and that it'd just look a bit sloppy... Hmmm... requires thought.
I am more than a little dismayed at how the 'glow' is almost the same colour as greenstuff - definitely not bright enough!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 11:52:08


Post by: finnan


... been working on him all morning, and I'm not entirely sure I can see that I've actually done anything!

I've redone the green; it's not great, but I don't think I have it in me to try again. I just can't seem to get a bright enough yellow or green. Fluro yellow would help I think, but unfortunately I don't have any. It'll do for now.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 13:57:13


Post by: Casey's Law


Much better in my opinion! Could you get a photo from above though so we can better see the base against the orange? The only criticism I could venture is that the red blood spray on the base spike is a little distracting.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 14:28:07


Post by: mars2024


Really looks great! Just amazing!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 15:25:03


Post by: finnan


Thanks guys : )
Casey - decided against the blood splatter as it didn't read too well and looked less than deliberate, but the blade was a bit plain, so I chucked a bit of DEldar branding on there instead. Crappy angles on the shots, but hopefully enough to give you an idea.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 15:34:08


Post by: Dr H


The green actually looks quite bright in the shots with your hand.
The orange bits look awesome.

Good job. Keep it up.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 17:23:29


Post by: GiraffeX


That greens looking loads better especially the shots in your hand.

A very nice model you have their finnan, looking forward to the next member.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 19:28:53


Post by: Casey's Law


Yeh ace job, fin! I love the new green and the whole piece is epic. I see better now that it's an icon rather than a slash of blood splatter and it looks good.

By itself it makes me question why the runes are different colours but when he is in a squad it'll all come together really nicely. Are you planning to do a custom plinth for the squad?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 19:47:29


Post by: finnan


I've been having vague thoughts about a plinth, but I'm not sure... I seem to remember that for Golden Demon, you had to be able to take the individual models off whatever they were presented on...? Don't know. It'd be fairly easy to whip one up at work using some wood or mdf and the router and then spray it a nice matte black.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/01 20:08:39


Post by: Casey's Law


You could start with a picture frame. Put a solid back on it and fill the middle how you want, either flat or continue the terrain. Just leave holes for the bases to sit in. This used to be legal for Golden Demon but check it still is. Personally I think it adds a lot to an entry, i'm not sure what it's like now but most of the winners used to have matching display plinths. If you want to do something really cool you could scratch build a tall one like you suggested and leave room to sculpt a big rune into the side.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/03 20:36:11


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


LAV IT, but I'd definitely go with darker recesses in the armour. Love the colours, blade's lookin' great!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/03 23:28:49


Post by: Cutthroatcure


I like how vibrant the green is!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/03 23:59:36


Post by: SelvaggioSaky


Just went through the amazing stuff You made from the beginning of the thread...
No words, just incredible.
You got a very shoked new subscriber


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/04 00:56:29


Post by: Commander Cain


I am a bit too late to the party here but that DE is absolutely stunning! I will have to look through your whole thread when I have the time, I have a feeling it will be well worth the read.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/04 02:19:10


Post by: finnan


as ever, thank you guys
/humble bow
SelvaggioSaky - welcome aboard!
Urien - darker recesses on which bits of the armour?


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170,000 hits! I'm awed and humbled.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 08:24:27


Post by: finnan


lots of yellow on this one - he's going on one of the purple bases so I want it to be quite contrasty. Still lots to do, but I want this to be very slick and smooth so I'm taking my time. Awkward to get decent shot because of the whip, but you get the idea.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 14:26:24


Post by: nerdfest09


Phwoar! you know that lack of motivation you had earlier? well, it seems it's gone for good now! I simply cannot believe how georgeous your blending with oranges and yellow is! they say every painter has a certain 'style' or 'flair' for a certain colour or technique and yours is quite simply the absolute best i've seen with these colours! you are inspirational to say the least Fin!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 18:25:26


Post by: finnan


You're far too kind Nerd - thank you.
I always thought I was better at blues - I certainly find working with blues EASY - this takes work!... Not that I've really had an opportunity to show any blues off lately. I guess that's the downside to doing an army that you do get stuck doing certain colours A LOT. I know I could have gone in a different direction with these guys, but I am confident with my yellows and if I want to impress certain judges, I need to produce some good work. Plus I did want them to be an allied unit and not stick out like a sore thumb...
Maybe I can have a crack at some blues when the new Swooping Hawks come out? lol


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 19:14:20


Post by: Axlangel


So I finally got my pics on my computer so here it is, this is what you have inspired me to make. Both of them are going to be entered into the FANG painting comp. thank you for all the inspiration! You have helped me so much.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 19:39:07


Post by: finnan


Axl - these rock!
Corsair Prince - really nice balance of colours. The blue really pops with the orange, and it doesn't overpower it or clash, and the grey ties it together and gives it something to sit on. For quite a complex and busy model, it actually looks quite simple and restrained. Thumbs up!

Irillyth - again, really nice balance with the colours. The orange could stand out too much if it was over done, but I think you nailed it - enough to make it look like a deliberate design choice, but a delicate touch so it doesn't overwhelm. The whites are nice and crisp - and white is hard to do, so well done!

Good luck with the competition - when is it? Let me/us know how you get on! I acknowledge that I may have been your inspiration and starting point, but it looks like you have some pretty darn good ideas and skills yourself!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 19:42:28


Post by: nerdfest09


Axlangel = Finnan's love child!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 19:45:13


Post by: finnan


bwa-hahahahaha!
; )

>sniff< I'm so proud!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/05 19:50:14


Post by: Cutthroatcure


It is something to be proud of, that is some decent work!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/06 09:50:06


Post by: Two Spartan


That 1st guys full face helmet looks ace love that shading from orange to white!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/06 16:11:18


Post by: Axlangel


Thanks everyone well I entered 2 of my entries in yesterday and I have finished the corsair prince (will be entered into the open category). The Finale(or the day everything will be judged) is on next weeks Friday. Still need to paint up a Void Dragon Phoenix, and finish up my wraithlord. I can show some pics of them.
Also sorry for the quality of the pics they aren't in good light and they were taken with my phone


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/07 19:53:24


Post by: finnan


First layer of yellow highlighting done - >phew< That was slightly hard work, but the next set of highlights should come along quicker.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/07 21:09:20


Post by: Casey's Law


Really pretty, fin. Well worth the effort!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/07 21:52:16


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Orangey bits!

I think if the orange went darker, without going red, it would look really cool


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 03:52:16


Post by: Axlangel


Woww that looks so good, the orange is so smooth!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 06:15:02


Post by: finnan


hmmm, not sure about that Urien. The orange actually knocks back a fair bit in the shots - it's pretty strong in the flesh. I could go in with some Wild Rider Red I suppose, but I want this to be yellow, not orange...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 08:55:52


Post by: Casey's Law


Honestly, I'd vote against darker recesses. At the very least wait until the highlights are finished.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 16:18:07


Post by: finnan


Yellows done... I think. I've also put in a judicious red shading in a few places...

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 16:37:22


Post by: Dr H


Looks really nice (as always) Fin.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 19:29:05


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


KK I see what you mean, Fin. I think it'll probably look great as soon as your highlights are a bit brighter?
I still love the whole thing tho, don't forget!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 19:45:49


Post by: Yellowbeard


Stunning work, finnan. The models are fantastic, but I really love the shading on the oranges and yellows.

I wonder if you'd mind revealing how you achieve those colors. (Or have you already; just point me in the right direction if you have.) It looks like you base coat white and then use washes to build up the colors....

Thanks!

YB


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 20:14:07


Post by: Casey's Law


Looks great, I think it'll go really nicely on the purple base.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/08 20:23:44


Post by: finnan


Thanks Casey, Dr H, Urien, Yellowbeard

that's as bright as they're going Urien : )

Yellowbeard: start off with a Blazing Orange basecoat, and then highlight up to Golden Yellow, then another highlight of Sunburst Yellow, and then a 1:1 mix of Sunburst and Dorn Yellow, and then a pure Dorn highlight.
Always water the paints down a fair bit, and then lots and lots and lots and lots of thin layers to build up the colour : )



Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/09 11:52:40


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


KK, I can live with this... :bursts into tears:

Just joking they're lookin' great!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/09 17:20:50


Post by: Cutthroatcure


They are crazy bright!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 01:07:35


Post by: Insacrum


Finnan,

I have to say that I really enjoy looking at your work. And have even drawn some inspiration from some of your work, or even just blatantly steal some ideas.

Spoiler:


I hope that I don't over-step with a little criticism:

While I liked your first DE Wych, I think the second one had a little too much color to it, there wasn't enough black or metallic to balance the orange jumping off of the figure.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 06:38:31


Post by: finnan


hey : ) - stealing ideas is always allowable : )

I know what you mean about the brightness level - I did intend for this one to be very yellow so that there's a high level of contrast between him and his base. The other option would have been to reverse the colour scheme, but I think then he'd have been too dark.
In my head (always a dark, scary and perilous place to be), I figure that DEldar, or Corsairs, are even more individualistic than CEldar, so they're each going to look different to show that... I also thought that if they were Arena Wyches, a bright costume would be a good thing because they could show off how good they are by keeping it pristine. Same for a battle situation, except they're a little more heavily armoured.

I think the next one will be darker (I think...), and possibly more wasp-like... maybe lol


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 10:33:17


Post by: finnan


Armour highlighted and a start made on all the fiddly bits of detail. Having had a look at it, I want to tidy up the purple tubing on his ribs. Green just based and washed at the moment.
(having had another good look, I also need to go back in and be a bit more accurate with the green tubing on his thigh)

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 14:51:24


Post by: Casey's Law


Nice progress, the armour is coming up a treat.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 16:01:40


Post by: finnan


I was thinking this afternoon about the weapons, well, the flail actually. Options: gold, same as the other one. Copper, so the red with contrast against the green of the agoniser. Or, as was suggested, go for a blue steel which will contrast against the yellow of the suit.
I thought I'd decided on the gold, but on second thoughts, I think I might go with the blue steel - so I can do the handle of the whip the same, and tie it into the gear on his back, have it contrasting against the yellow and be different to the first Wych.
Does that sound like a good plan - or do I want to have the flails the same so that the squad looks a little cohesive? Thoughts?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 17:06:43


Post by: Dr H


I would lean towards different weapon colours, but that may just be me (my blog or gallery would explain that clearly ).

However you may want to consider how the weapons tie in with the different base colours, so a blue steel colour on this one would work (I think) with the purple base I believe you were going to use with this one, in the same way that the gold (maybe a reddish bronze would have been better) and the green did on the previous one. Maybe... worth a thought.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 17:41:38


Post by: finnan


that did pass through my mind too Dr H. My only concern would be that they'd end up not looking cohesive, but I think the yellow and metallic will do that enough... possibly...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 18:10:52


Post by: Dr H


Yeah, it's a tricky decision.

There's always room for individuality within armies and squads and the yellow and armour, as you say, should be enough to keep them as a squad.

However there's always/usually two ways of painting an army; they are all identical (brothers, sisters, hatchlings, clones ...) or they are all very much individuals (Orks spring to mind) there's usually something to hold them all together, but two models may look drastically different (a host of them and it becomes an army).

Also, if you start with these two with different weapons, what are you going to do for the others? Will they all have different coloured weapons/metals or will you stick to one or two variants?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 18:17:07


Post by: finnan


I think I'd stick to a couple of variants. These are the only two with flails, then I've got two agonisers, and the rest are swords and daggers... plus one pistol. For the swords, I was going to try doing crystal blades, but dark crystal as opposed the bright CEldar-like ones... so I could stick to a few colours there...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 20:17:20


Post by: Casey's Law


I'd be very wary of putting down too many colours, both in terms of the single miniature and the squad. If you are going for a GD win then check out the trends of the winners. It might not seem the fairest thing but the judges will tend towards certain things because they are human. They might prefer cohesion or maybe the like each model to be a seperate piece.

I'm sure you'll make a good call.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 20:35:35


Post by: finnan


hmm... everyone's making good sense : )
I think I'm leaning back towards the gold... for the sake of simplicity and cohesion. I'll take a shot tomorrow when I've done a bit more on it, but his loincloth is going to be dark red, so maybe I should just keep to the harmonious colour scheme and stick to the gold.
This certainly makes a change to my usual go-with-the-flow-and-make-it-up-as-I-go-along method of painting
Thanks for the suggestions guys : )


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/10 21:11:30


Post by: Dr H


Good call C'sLaw.
Looking forward to what is to come Fin.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 14:15:42


Post by: Cutthroatcure


I will be quite interested to see a finished shot of the squad when you get there.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 14:36:10


Post by: finnan


Done : )
... possibly... maybe... I'm sure I'll see something I need to correct when I have a good look at the shots

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 15:08:13


Post by: nerdfest09


Why do I get a Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers song in my head when I see them?

Hey Fin! I like the gold mate, I think it works with the figures nicely, and the green agoniser is perfect imo! my only critisism is the black armour probably need to come up in highlighting just a bit more (if you haven't finished it yet?)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 15:32:08


Post by: finnan


Can't go wrong with some Power Ranger action!

the armour's highlighted up to Mithril... but I can go in and do some more. The shots have flattened it out a little... they're awkward buggers to shoot because of the whips and flail - the Macro wants to focus on them rather than the body.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 15:38:24


Post by: Dr H


Looks good.
I like the green whip (so that's an agoniser).
and I like the colourful wossnames on his belt, add just enough colour to the model.
Gold flail works well. A blue steel one may have left it looking a bit cold really. Gold = Good.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 18:45:57


Post by: LadyCassandra


I think there's something missing about the sash... I don't know, it just seems to vanish into the background.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 18:48:23


Post by: finnan


I was wondering about putting a couple of stripes on it in a contrasting colour, but wondered if that might be too ordered and Craftworldy...?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/11 20:28:32


Post by: Casey's Law


Love it. It's much more cohesive than I anticipated too. The other colours are very subtle accompaniments to the orange.

I really like the variation in brightness as well. Give the effect that there is more light on one.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 02:45:17


Post by: Insacrum


I like the green whip. It balances out the color on the body a lot better, while not having to revert to a lot of black armor as I suggested before.

The only thing I'm not sure about is in the pictures it doesn't look like the yellow highlighting is showing through. It's showing up more as peach.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 05:39:06


Post by: paintitblack


Loving the pics. Thanks for sharing your fantastic work mate.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 06:44:42


Post by: finnan


@Insacrum - I changed the setting on my camera so I could get a decent shot, which might explain the colour shift... looking at the shots, I see what you mean, but he's definitely yellow : )

Onto the next one today!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 07:02:25


Post by: SupremeDalek


Love it!!!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 15:04:48


Post by: Nivoglibina


I love your modelling and painting, inspirational!

Normally I do not criticise and just admire threads like this, but perhaps that's a little lazy so here it goes:

Things I would change:
More black armour on his back, perhaps the protrusions next to the central black spine would look good in black. Right now it looks like its cloth over the protrusions, not logical.
I don't really like the gold coloured weapons, they somehow clash with the other colours. I don't have a better colour to suggest though


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 16:52:00


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


That is f***ing beautiful. What ever I said before, I take back. You, my friend Finnan, are a God-damned genius.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 18:04:55


Post by: Cutthroatcure


Looking quite good!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 19:37:35


Post by: finnan


opinion seems to be divided lol
I think I'll take another look at it when I've had some time away from it.
Started the next one today but not feeling it yet...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 20:33:15


Post by: Flame Boy


I haven't finished looking through your thread, but the Craftworld Eldar look perfect for representing the old 2nd edition Ulthwe Craftworld before the orange details were changed to bone. I have been considering getting some Wasps and I guess some Corsairs to go with them, and trying to take a leaf out of your book on those gorgeous oranges, I might try to imitate the effect on this Borderlands 2 rocket launcher on my Corsair forces. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130117170205/borderlands/images/9/90/2013-01-18_00004.jpg

I am intrigued by your heavy use of Charadon Granite, as I found it to be almost a "Swiss army knife" paint when painting my Rangers, as it gave their cloaks, weapons and flesh a more earthy tone to contrast with my slightly more clinical Craftworld units. I agree with what you said earlier about having a bit of leeway with rangers to make them stand out a bit from the rank and file.

I am amazed by your Scourges, I recently fell in love with the models when getting a squad to compete in a Kill team tornament (They proceeded to shoot all the angry possessed marines off the table barring one, and then bottled a leadership test and ran off the table, the filthy cowards! :-p ). I was considering a black membrane with fleshy highlights, but you've done so many tasty things with those wings, it's hard to decide what is more inspiring! On a similar note, the Magpie-like iridescence on the Harlequin is beautiful, that could be another way of painting Scourge wings. Argh! Decisions!

I would love to know how you control your paints when you thin them. I tend to find to find blending is a real pain with thinned paints. I'm always terrified that the paint won't cover and will look blotchy. I'll have to finish reading your thread for some tips.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/12 20:49:23


Post by: finnan


Good to have you aboard Flame

Thanks for the positive comments, they're very much appreciated.
I like that rocket launcher - great colours, and I'm a sucker for organic-looking patterning. It's a cold yellow, so I don't know how you'd get that... maybe some white in the initial yellow mix? It might also be worth thinking about painting backwards - doing the yellow first and then adding the orange and the grey.

Gotta love Charadon Granite

Paint control = teeny tiny brushes. That way you can't overload the brush and swamp the area you're working on. If the paint's thin enough, and unevenness or blotches are pretty easy to correct.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/13 21:51:49


Post by: Axlangel


Well The Fang is now over, and I came 2nd in 2 things. The Open category + the Young Bloods.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/14 06:21:10


Post by: finnan


Well done Axl! Congratulations You should be feeling really proud of yourself.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/14 15:55:53


Post by: Cutthroatcure


Hell yeah Ax


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/16 07:47:34


Post by: Dakkon


Amazing work! went through this entire thread. thanks for sharing your technique too!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/16 16:10:38


Post by: Lt. Coldfire


Dakkon wrote:
Amazing work! went through this entire thread. thanks for sharing your technique too!

What page is his technique shown?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/16 20:06:56


Post by: finnan


which technique? Mostly I use glazing/layering to build up areas of soft colour... if that's what you want to look at, the last four to five pages will probably show you that


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/21 07:46:55


Post by: finnan


I'm taking a little break from the DEldar and doing some work on Irillyth - I wouldn't mind him being my single figure entry for 40k... if I decide to go to Games Day that is!
Usual method of thinning down the paint a lot and then lots and lots of layers, only this time just with white from the blue base.
I've also beefed up the gold work with the Vallejo Liquid Golds I got.
All I keep thinking when I'm working on him is 'Out of the ice'... the shots show the comparison between the based and washed side to the (almost) finished up to pure white side.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/21 09:19:42


Post by: stubacca


looking pretty sweet to far! I love the smooth transitions between the white and the blue


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/21 12:47:50


Post by: Casey's Law


Whoa, that's some impressive layering!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 08:21:36


Post by: nerdfest09


Fin please enter him! for meeeeee *flutter eyes* :-) that is beautiful so far and I just want to see you paint the gak outta that model! that is some seriously nice colour you got on him so far!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 15:08:18


Post by: Nivoglibina


WTG!

That detailed thigh-plate, is that modelled or freehand? Could not see this on the FW pics, the gun is blocking the view.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 16:05:51


Post by: Axlangel


 Nivoglibina wrote:
WTG!

That detailed thigh-plate, is that modelled or freehand? Could not see this on the FW pics, the gun is blocking the view.

It's sculpted. And yes Im absolutely loving the paintjob. Just makes me wanna buy irillyth again and paint him.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 17:10:40


Post by: finnan


As Axl said, it's sculpted. It's a fairly detailed model, and pretty intimidating, but it's been a joy to paint so far


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 18:38:47


Post by: Nivoglibina


Thanks for the answers. The model is very nice indeed, i wish I could do it justice like you are doing.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 18:49:00


Post by: finnan


lol as I've said several times before, all it takes is thin paint, many layers, lots of patience, more than a touch of insanity and a teeny-tiny brush!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/22 20:37:44


Post by: Nivoglibina


I'm lacking a couple of those traits sadly


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/24 19:23:08


Post by: finnan


Just a little bit of work on the next DEldar - blocked in, and a couple of washes of black. I'm now realising what an awkward position she's in as I've had to go over several mistakes already! I still need to clean up a few areas of orange before I start highlighting.
This is actually version 2 - originally I had her pointy crotch-armour black-yellow-black, but it didn't look right and was too distracting. I was planning to have her loincloth the dark red, but as you can see, it's now going to be orange to tie into the yellow, and the crotch-armour is all black. Simpler, less fussy and cleaner. The plan is to keep the loincloth orange rather than yellow, just to throw another colour into the mix, but we'll see how it goes. The yellow and orange will also bounce very nicely off the blue on her base.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/25 18:42:13


Post by: finnan


Damn GW! Is it wrong of me to be lusting after the eagles from the HElf sky-boat and the phoenixes? I vowed not to buy anything until Eldar or WElves came out... but as we all know my chums, I'm a weak, weak man!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/25 18:49:08


Post by: nathanie1


It's looking to be an expensive two months for you then!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/27 07:57:40


Post by: Young_Logan


The orange on those models is beautiful, the shading is stupendous. LOoking forward to seeing the rest of them

Young Logan


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/27 11:09:55


Post by: finnan


thanks YL

... I managed to stay strong in GW this morning and didn't pre-order multiple HElf goodies. I am tempted with a couple of the phoenixes (cunning plan afoot...) and the boat for the Roc... we'll see. I need me some Eldar rumours with pics to convince me to spend my money on them instead!

I also had a flick though White Dwarf, just to get a decent look at the pictures of the birds, and my goodness it's rubbish. They give their products the hard sell, as is expected, but the hobbying and the painting 'guides' in particular are such poor quality! The 'guides' are so lacking in information, even I had to pretty much guess at what you were supposed to be doing, and I consider myself a fairly intelligent guy and a fairly good painter to boot.
I'm almost tempted to say that it's not worth the paper it's printed on, and coming from a graphic designer, that's damning indeed!
Needless to say, I didn't feel the need to actually purchase a copy...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/28 13:48:02


Post by: Young_Logan


 finnan wrote:

I also had a flick though White Dwarf, just to get a decent look at the pictures of the birds, and my goodness it's rubbish. They give their products the hard sell, as is expected, but the hobbying and the painting 'guides' in particular are such poor quality! The 'guides' are so lacking in information, even I had to pretty much guess at what you were supposed to be doing, and I consider myself a fairly intelligent guy and a fairly good painter to boot.
I'm almost tempted to say that it's not worth the paper it's printed on, and coming from a graphic designer, that's damning indeed!
Needless to say, I didn't feel the need to actually purchase a copy...


First one I havent bought in a while, normally I like the other painting stuff but this months WD was really lack luster, shame really. Looking forward to seeing what you have planned with the pheonixes though

Young Logan


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/29 17:23:39


Post by: Insacrum


The only thing that I've seen that might be legit in regards to Eldar, is a Farseer on sprue.

But I'm crossing my fingers that what the release will be excellent.

From what I hear, it's planning to be a HUGE release... I just want to see the pictures.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/04/29 20:03:42


Post by: finnan


Plastic Farseer I might get hold of, but it's not anything terribly new or exciting. I really want the new releases to be exciting and to update the line - I'm really crossing my fingers for new Swooping Hawks in a similar style to the Scourges or Shadow Spectres, and Banshees with as much movement as the Wyches.
The flyer rumours looks... interesting to say the least, but it still has potential. SuperMegaWraithZord rumours... well, we'll wait and see. I do like me some Eldar walkers, so I'm hoping for something tall, and slender and elegant...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/04 14:33:58


Post by: finnan


As we all know, I'm a weak, weak man with willpower issues.

... I may have bought a phoenix or two today... I know, I know, I shall be castigating myself later ; )

I'm working up the ice phoenix first - Icefyre. I've already started to hack into it - I've chopped off the tail feathers and swapped them so that they flare out rather than in - I just think it'll give it a nicer line. There's a little greenstuffing to do on the joins, but should be pretty doable.
I'm tempted to flip the wings too, so they're sweeping down, but, I'll see about that... pics to come later


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/04 17:02:11


Post by: finnan


some big-@$$ wings! Plus repositioned tail.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/04 17:03:10


Post by: Gitsplitta


Good Lord those are cool though...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/04 18:43:21


Post by: GiraffeX


Yeah they do look like really nice models, I'm sure you can do an amazing job with these finnan.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/05 06:55:05


Post by: finnan


I'll do my best Giraffe!

Still doing some 'stuffing on the tail, but it's coming on pretty well. I'm thinking of how to pose/base the beastie. I'd quite like to have him at a fairly sharp angle, one wingtip touching the ground so I can do a trail of frost along the ground (and do the same for the fire one as well, using the spare tail or wings as a trail of fire). The only major problem to that will be whether the join will be strong enough. If I can, I'll try for multiple pin joints through the wing tips and through a piece of resin scenery... and then lots of glue on the back!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/05 07:55:32


Post by: GiraffeX


Sounds like a really good idea. Would make an excellent diorama of two flying past a central object/ poor Orc or something with their wing tips touching the ground like you said.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/05 17:49:30


Post by: finnan


Hmmm... I hadn't considered putting both of them on one base... an intriguing idea...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/05 19:34:41


Post by: nerdfest09


Colour me intrigued Fin! that idea is solid and one I may attempt to steal in the future! the challenges of the ice crystals and pose appeal to me greatly! and I also think if anyone can do it, it's you :-) I hark back to the last icy model you did (that eskimo looking she creature?)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/05 19:52:26


Post by: finnan


thanks Nerd : )
I just have to figure how to get the wing to stick to the base and have it strong enough. It's actually a fairly light model, but it's still going to be a far amount of stress on a small area. I might have to pin a couple of the feathers so it'll be strong enough.

The plan is white and gold (white gold - thank you Vallejo Liquid Gold!) for the ice phoenix, and black, red and gold (I think) for the fire one.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/06 16:32:56


Post by: finnan


Progress on the ice phoenix. He's pretty much assembled - the tail still isn't glued in place because I want to be able to get to the feet (and I still need to sort out the join where I swapped the tails too). Base on its way too. I've drilled into the rock and pinned it - it's not super strong, so I might have to do another pin somewhere. For once I don't think glue is going to cut it. It's also top-heavy and tips over, so my thinking is this: whip up a plinth at work for the base to sit on, and inset some magnets (just ordered), with the corresponding magnets glued to the underside of the base. Apparently these magnets have a pull of 2.25kg, so I think that should be strong enough to pull it down... that's the plan anyway!
Another option could be to rotate the rock and have the base parallel to the wings, but I;m not sure even that would counterbalance it.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/06 18:02:50


Post by: Urien_Rakarth


Beauuuuuteh!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/06 19:13:58


Post by: Casey's Law


That's awesome!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/06 19:35:37


Post by: finnan


thanks guys : )
Second pin drilled and stuck in, so hopefully that'll strengthen it. I'm taking the base in to work tomorrow so I can start working on the plinth


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/07 20:23:26


Post by: finnan


Despite it being my busy day at work today, I managed to make a start on the plinth - found a nice chunk of wood (chunk = technical term), and I trimmed it down, and then routed out the top. I then found out that I'd actually picked out some Maple, which turns out to be about as hard as steel, so I'm going to have a time of it getting it sanded down... but that's not a huge problem, I'd much rather take my time anyway. I still have to wait for the magnets to arrive though, so I'm in no huge rush. I'll bring it home tomorrow so I can take a shot of it : )

Also interested to see the Eldar rumours at the moment about big wraith constructs with digitigrade legs (like the back legs of a horse)... Boy am I glad I did the WraithWalker! Maybe I could sue GW for stealing my intellectual property? (joking, joking)


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/07 23:53:42


Post by: nerdfest09


Fin I just want them to be released for the sole reason that I can watch you get all frothing at the mouth excited and paint some great new models! are you thinking of a scheme for the new ones yet?


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 05:15:17


Post by: finnan


I'm already trying to pace myself Nerd (we all know it'll be a total fail... unless they're ugly... )
I have some ideas for vehicles if they're cool... it rips an idea off from Age of X, an X-Men story arc... Otherwise it'll be the usual red and yellow for the troops. I'll just have to wait and see what comes out - I'm crossing my fingers for Swooping Hawks...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 09:16:42


Post by: Young_Logan


Phoenix looking great, is that just for show or are you planning on putting it into the army somewhere?

Young Logan


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 15:34:22


Post by: finnan


Just for show really - I love birds/wings, so I just couldn't resist them. If they turn out well enough, I may enter it for Golden Demon in the Warhammer Monster category


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 16:06:45


Post by: finnan


So, here's the plinth, with and without the base on top. It probably needs a bit more sanding, but it pretty nice already. The magnets arrived today as well (and boy, are they S T R O N G, so they'll definitely do the trick), so I can take them into work tomorrow and get the holes drilled in and can set the magnets. Famous last words, but I'm a little surprised that it's come together this quickly. At the moment, I'm leaning towards just keeping it the plain wood and getting it waxed and polished. I think it'd be a shame to paint over the beautiful grain.

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Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 16:13:43


Post by: Dr H


Plinth looks nice. I'd leave it wood.

Are you sure these magnets are not too strong, you don't want to try an pick up the model and leave the base behind by accident... or end up with your car keys being embedded in the model...

Looking forward to a pretty paint job.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 16:46:59


Post by: Casey's Law


Plinth looks good man, well worth the effort!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 16:53:42


Post by: finnan


you make a valid point about the strength of the magnets... I was originally thinking about having two magnet points, but one might actually be enough... they have a pull of 2.25kg...


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 20:32:52


Post by: Casey's Law


What magnets did you buy? Some little rare earth magnets should be enough to do the trick.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/08 20:35:41


Post by: Insacrum


I like the plinth, I would keep it wood, but depending in the final look of the model, you might want to stain it.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/09 05:23:58


Post by: finnan


Just some company online for the magnets... they're neodymium magnets if that makes any difference? I got 12mm diameter ones as I thought I'd need the strength, but I could probably have gotten away with smaller ones, but these will certainly do the trick!

I think I'll leave it au natural, but I'll finish it up with some wax and give it a good buffing.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/09 10:52:36


Post by: Casey's Law


Neodymium is what you want, 12mm is huge but it'll certainly secure the model. As long as you've pinned well and you slide the magnets apart rather than pull I don't think you'll have any issues with leaving the base behind.


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/09 20:06:42


Post by: finnan


Holes drilled and magnets glued into the wooden base and onto the plastic base. I don't think it's going to be going anywhere! lol You're right about sliding the plastic base off Casey, although it's not as difficult as I feared it might be. I used epoxy resin to stick them in place, so it should be pretty secure. now that's done, I can finish off the plinth and get it looking pretty, and then stick the phoenix to the plastic base and get undercoating!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/10 11:22:37


Post by: Cutthroatcure


I am excited to see how this turns out!


Eldar (mostly) WIP - Tonight Pinky, we take over the world!! @ 2013/05/12 11:11:57


Post by: finnan


presenting, from the White Hot Room, the White Phoenix of the Crown : ) lol
Couldn't resist a little X-Men reference there

So, a little bit of progress on the first phoenix. The plan is to have some contrast between the warmth of the gold and the coldness of the white and snow, although I was thinking this morning about having two whites - a warm/neutral white for the wings and body, and then a cold white for where the frost starts to kick in. The snowflakes will definitely be cold white.
All I've done is base with Vallejo Liquid Gold Rich Gold, and give most areas a couple of washes of Gryphs Sepia, and then highlighted back up to the Rich Gold. For the gold I didn't wash, I want the Rich Gold to be the shadow-colour, and then highlight up to the White Gold I have.
The feet were given the same basecoat, and then have a single wash of Badab Black at the moment, but I want to put at least another one, if not more on top, and then some judicious drybrushing with gold.

also included is a shot of the base (still need to wax it) - it works! Hurrah! I also still need to finish greenstuffing where the wings are pinned to the base.

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