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Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 10:11:01


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 BLACKHAND wrote:
Shouldn't you be more worried about the 16 day silence on your Mantis blog Gits? :p


Ouch! We have a winner!


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Funnily enough I am slightly soggy, though from wife drool (nothing NSFW, just asleep on me watching tv).

yeah...not NSFW.....
Stoked about 60 though, so thanks! Need to get back to doing stuff...

Congrats!

Actual p&m that is

Yes, yes you should....


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 12:11:24


Post by: Solar_lion


 BLACKHAND wrote:
Shouldn't you be more worried about the 16 day silence on your Mantis blog Gits? :p


245 pages behind = not worried!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 13:06:04


Post by: Gitsplitta


Yes, well.... that will come to an abrupt halt soon enough. But not quite yet. Adepticon planning is beginning and that'll result in a number of new projects undoubtedly... as well as my last 3 outstanding GMS marines and finishing up my LoTD squad.

But... have some crons and Nids to paint first. Gotta take care of my boys you know...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 19:55:10


Post by: inmygravenimage


Right ya bunch of whinge bags, I've studiously been attacking howdah like a crazy four year old (or should that be with a 4 yr old?) and it's pretty much done bar crew and crates:





Much happier with the scrap cannon than the light.




Probably need a roof hatch too.




I plan to have barrels etc hanging off the back, also.

Meanwhile, beastie has a big gun:

Need to add details to the sponsons. Head blade looked really silly, in the end. I plan still to have a piñata hanging off the gun.

Assembled, in situ:


And finally:


C&C&C?
No, I don't know what 3rd C is either,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 20:04:28


Post by: Gitsplitta


How do they load/reload the main gun?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 20:09:32


Post by: monkeytroll


Just like a normal gun - it has a huge barrel for loudness reasons, it only actually fires 10mm rounds.

Loving the spider-squig you had the howdah mounted on in the first pics - great skin tone you caught there.

edit: Quality howdah, very orky - good job by you and the boy

What's either side of the squiggoth, in front of his rear legs? Are those cannon barrels, can't get a good angle on them.




Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 20:28:01


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Love the howdah graven, properly Orky! Although, just from the first few pics, combined with your hand position, all i want to do it say 'add wings = dakkajet'....

 Gitsplitta wrote:
How do they load/reload the main gun?

By firing a Shokk Attack Gun into the back of it, thereby loading the main gun with...well, whatever the SAG decided to pick up....


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 20:37:33


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ gitsplitta: well, underneath and out the back I guess
@ mt: gracias! Those are big lobbas:


@ Reiko: wings you say?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 20:47:17


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think you need to build a loading shoot from the platform down to the breach of the gun.

That's what I think.



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 21:10:28


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
@ Reiko: wings you say?



graven, you have made me very a happy man (nerd)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 21:25:12


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ gits: ok, I see where you coming from, I could maybe use a russ track guard upside down at the front middle (between the 2 shootaz)?
@ Reiko: I live to give. I haven't decided if the wings would be a permanent addition though. I'd really need a couple of big pistons.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 21:33:53


Post by: Revenent Reiko


I appreciate that!

That would actually look quite good if you add the pistons(not that it doesnt without, just to say....), like an extendible platform....


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/24 21:37:43


Post by: Gitsplitta


Yeah... I mean it's buried in there so it doesn't have to be fancy... but the gun just ending there up against the squiggoth's back is very incongruous.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 09:55:08


Post by: inmygravenimage


If I can find the extra pistons left over from the defiler I might just do it! On the subject of the BFG, what about ammo panniers either side of the mount?


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Or...

For example?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 11:47:50


Post by: Gitsplitta


Not sure what an ammo pannier is... but yes, that helps a lot. You could even have a grot head or two poking out from the gap as if they were making sure everything stayed running smoothly & it would be a nice accent to boot.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 12:48:48


Post by: inmygravenimage


Panniers = side baskets, like on a bike, as opposed to hoppers. I plan to have grots a-plenty, fear not! Which way round looks better, pic 1 or 2?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 12:55:52


Post by: Gitsplitta


Second one. Looks considerably more orky.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 13:26:10


Post by: inmygravenimage


I thought so too


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 14:00:56


Post by: Briancj


I really love this beast. I give it <3 <3 <3 <3 out of five, but only because it hasn't been painted yet.

I hope for a great paint job, and tons of orky waaaaagh banners!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/25 15:07:45


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks mate, my broad aim is for battered yellow with red triangles and green accents (sticking with the Mexican theme). Next job is to starting positioning grots and Ork crew (8 for a gargantua isn't it?)


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Goddamn you Reiko...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 0014/08/25 18:37:52


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Aww yeah, thats what im talking about!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 0021/08/26 12:43:00


Post by: inmygravenimage


Yeah, yeah... Gonna use chimera plough pistons for the wing mechanism, my last 2 sets, but there we are.
Started on crew:



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Turns out I have no grot heads. Bah...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/26 16:15:28


Post by: Gitsplitta


The open spaces should have advertisements for cheap tequila and Corona...



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"Join Waaaagh Mexicana... where every day is Día de los Muertos!"


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/26 17:40:59


Post by: inmygravenimage


Terkiller, Koroner...

Knew I'd find a use for that one day...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/31 14:09:40


Post by: evildrcheese


That's wicked.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/31 15:49:20


Post by: Revenent Reiko


How did i miss the 'Terkiller'?!

Now it just needs painting...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/31 20:33:49


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks for continuing support gang. Not getting much done: kids are a bit out of whack and not settling well at night which is eating my p&m time. Hope to have some more welshmen made ready for big game of saga (well, 6 pts...) on Tuesday. Not painted mind, but if I can get 8 cavalry built I'm there.

So, in the meantime, some Orks in sombreros:



There will be a chain running from the Squiggoth's mouth up to the warboss. Not sure what to do with the boss pole, and I'm debating ponchos. Plasticard and gs both have possibilities, but limitations also.







Hopefully a better view of the terkiller!

So, I hope that'll tide y'all over. Thoughts on ponchos etc would be muchas appreciatedas.




Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/31 21:43:35


Post by: monkeytroll


Banditorks looking great, do say there's going to be a trio of mariachi players

For poncho's I'd try doing them in two halves - front/back or possibly left/right depending on the pose? Roll the gs thin onto a sheet of plastic (ziploc bag type stuff) and cut the shapes out through the gs and the plastic. Apply it with the plastic 'backing' still in place and you can manipulate it without pushing it out of shape too much, helps a little with the hang of the cloth too.

Heh, that almost made it sound like it's a daily ocurence. Should point out I've never tried a poncho and I'm basing that whole premise on my experience with one greatcoat experiment


Or maybe heating up very thin templates cut from plasticard? Tricky working with plastic molten enough to drape convincingly though.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/08/31 21:50:40


Post by: bigfish


Liking the mexican orks, especially the terkiller very cool.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 00:18:57


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Sombrer-Orks ftw graven! they look amazing! And damn good work with the Terkilla, seriously impressed at the tiny bottle.

Sorry to hear about the little tykes, hope they feel better soon...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 06:52:31


Post by: inmygravenimage


@mt: some cool ideas there, I shall have a think and a play. And yes, there is a mariachi band planned. Rhere tou go again, stealing ideas out of my brain... Snotling with double bass, anyone? They're planned for one of the wings.
@bigfish: a pleasure to have you aboard sir, and thanks for kind comments!
@reiko: I'd love to take credit for the terkiller but it's part of the Kromlech accesories with the heads, as are the maracas. There will also be bottles of Korona kicking about, which are from black cat bases (great stuff btw, and they send you obe of 7 different 28mm cats free with every order) - same folk I got the tiny cowboy hats for my Confederate grots from.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 07:16:43


Post by: Miss Dee


Where do you get the merackers?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 08:34:31


Post by: inmygravenimage


Kromlech again. Can't find that bloody snot now...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 15:38:50


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
@reiko: I'd love to take credit for the terkiller but it's part of the Kromlech accesories with the heads, as are the maracas. There will also be bottles of Korona kicking about, which are from black cat bases (great stuff btw, and they send you obe of 7 different 28mm cats free with every order) - same folk I got the tiny cowboy hats for my Confederate grots from.

Good on you for 'owning up' as it were...they are really well done though, and well incorporated into your Orks.

Really? 7 cats? Thats pretty awesome straight off the bat


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 15:42:36


Post by: nerdfest09


Ah I do love a good Sombrero! in fact I often wear one when I Skype people! makes an interesting ice breaker :-)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/01 16:39:43


Post by: evildrcheese


I love that six-shooter that one of the Orks has!

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/03 20:08:51


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks folks!
And now... El Mariachi!




Just WIPs. Still...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/03 20:30:57


Post by: Gitsplitta


More like "El Kabong!"

(Little inside joke for all you US guys of a "certain age"... or watchers of Boomerang...)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/03 20:43:27


Post by: monkeytroll


Now that is a great use of those one-piece green grots (was it space crusade? I forget now, it's all a blur...).


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/03 21:06:04


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ gits: are you saying I should give one a mask? I was thinking of doing the runt's ammo as crayons, but no-one get my bad puns.
@ mt: ole. No, wait, oh-lay. It's spelled ole, see? And no I will not be doing an ed209 dread as a taco stand.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/03 21:27:39


Post by: Briancj


 Gitsplitta wrote:
More like "El Kabong!"

(Little inside joke for all you US guys of a "certain age"... or watchers of Boomerang...)


I will Kabong him with my Kabonger!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/03 23:35:10


Post by: Anvildude


Fastest Draw in the West!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/07 15:56:29


Post by: inmygravenimage


Hey guys.
Back at work 4 weeks - haven't picked up a brush. Really need to get my paint stick on. However.
My garage - spray space, mini storage, as well as mundane stuff - is collapsing. So I have limited facilities and a spiralling bill (£2-3k just now, which is better than £20/30k, but still) - yay, RL. Seriously considering changing my username to middleagedrage (told my boss this, he suggested middleagedmiddleclassrage )
Aaaaaaanyway. Hence the lack of any meaningful progress - doesn't excuse my low post rate around dakka, that's more down to general exhaustion.
Sorry for the moan. I shall attempt to get my act together.

In other news, did get a couple of games of saga in against erithromycin. Wow, what a game it is. The battle board mechanic is fascinating and really deep strategically. I recommend it very highly indeed. I did get trounced but it was enormously impressive and fun as fun thing covered in fun.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/07 18:28:44


Post by: monkeytroll


Bloody RL, playing havok with people's lives

Here's hoping that bill doesn't continue to spiral up too much.

I think you have plenty of company in your middleagedrage, don't worry about the odd moan, we understand


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/07 19:53:56


Post by: BLACKHAND


Having just survived a week and a half with two girls with Chickenpox I can understand exhaustion!
Don't stress out about Dakka posts bud, you will get to it when you can.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/07 20:45:22


Post by: Llamahead


Okay Mexican Orks on the back of the Tarascus awesome. The Grot Mriarchi band is a brilliant touch by the way. I take it there's going to be a big fight between them and the Defilorks at the Alamork?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/07 21:11:43


Post by: inmygravenimage


@mt: cheers mate, and trust me my moans are very odd don't get me started on granola...

@bh: ack, been there, currently it's tonsillitis tennis between my two.

@llamahead: thanks buddy, I know your love of converting all things confrontation so glad you approve. As for the Alamo, well, my Sanctum Sororitas and RoB are set for an almighty shindig indeed if I can get my act together.

Secretly though I'm thinking how to do ork gyrocopters from black reach with dark eldar sails...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/07 21:35:19


Post by: monkeytroll


Good thinks to have


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/08 07:59:40


Post by: Llamahead


Might be easier to do this based on the Warbiker kit instead as it's far more flexible


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/09 21:22:23


Post by: inmygravenimage


^ also a plan, though I have aobr copters kicking about. Oh, I got a layer of wash down on 21 gk termies today, flesh tones on about a dozen paladins, all of which is progress, and a further stone layer on my ghost knights. AND found mariachi snotling! Yay, progress.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 16:47:22


Post by: Gitsplitta


I wanted to post this as an entry in graven's competition even though a last minute work trip will prevent me from finishing it in time. This is a Mantis Warrior Deathwatch scout, just in the build stage... no paint.

It struck me that a scout specifically recruited into the Deathwatch would probably have a special skill of some sort, not just a run-of-the-mill half trained newbie goob. So, really the only scout specialists (out of the vanilla dex) are snipers. My Mantis Warriors have some notoriety for their snipers... specifically the Tranquility Snipers of legend. So, doing a MW Deathwatch scout as a sniper is kind of a natural.
Then I started thinking about the utter stupidity of the reality of 40k snipers. Instead of "one shot, one kill", it's more like "12 shots, one kill" (for a marine opponent). Those kinds of odds would never fly for an elite sniper in a chapter known for it's snipers.

With that as the background, I humbly offer my unofficial entry into graven's Deathwatch competition... "One Shot, One Kill"
Spoiler:




Yes, he's smiling, has a cigar & is giving the . And yes... that gun IS what it looks like!



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 16:49:32


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


That is a big gun....


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 17:51:58


Post by: monkeytroll


lol. That should get the job done


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 19:42:53


Post by: evildrcheese


Yep, that should do the trick.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 21:30:50


Post by: Revenent Reiko


inmygravenimage wrote:Hey guys.
Back at work 4 weeks - haven't picked up a brush. Really need to get my paint stick on. However.
My garage - spray space, mini storage, as well as mundane stuff - is collapsing. So I have limited facilities and a spiralling bill (£2-3k just now, which is better than £20/30k, but still) - yay, RL. Seriously considering changing my username to middleagedrage (told my boss this, he suggested middleagedmiddleclassrage )
Aaaaaaanyway. Hence the lack of any meaningful progress - doesn't excuse my low post rate around dakka, that's more down to general exhaustion.
Sorry for the moan. I shall attempt to get my act together.

In other news, did get a couple of games of saga in against erithromycin. Wow, what a game it is. The battle board mechanic is fascinating and really deep strategically. I recommend it very highly indeed. I did get trounced but it was enormously impressive and fun as fun thing covered in fun.

Aww bad times graven (and terribly late response from me ) Hope you get it all sorted mate.

middleagedrage is an EXCELLENT handle however, may steal that later in life, midtwentiesrage doesnt have quite the same ring to it...
Gitsplitta wrote:I wanted to post this as an entry in graven's competition even though a last minute work trip will prevent me from finishing it in time. This is a Mantis Warrior Deathwatch scout, just in the build stage... no paint.

It struck me that a scout specifically recruited into the Deathwatch would probably have a special skill of some sort, not just a run-of-the-mill half trained newbie goob. So, really the only scout specialists (out of the vanilla dex) are snipers. My Mantis Warriors have some notoriety for their snipers... specifically the Tranquility Snipers of legend. So, doing a MW Deathwatch scout as a sniper is kind of a natural.
Then I started thinking about the utter stupidity of the reality of 40k snipers. Instead of "one shot, one kill", it's more like "12 shots, one kill" (for a marine opponent). Those kinds of odds would never fly for an elite sniper in a chapter known for it's snipers.

With that as the background, I humbly offer my unofficial entry into graven's Deathwatch competition... "One Shot, One Kill"
Spoiler:




Yes, he's smiling, has a cigar & is giving the . And yes... that gun IS what it looks like!

Makes me think of this soooo much...


Love it Gits!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 21:35:46


Post by: inmygravenimage


It is a gloriously ridiculous gun. Positively orky, actually, in it's ridiculousness. Can't think why that's fitting for gits ...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/10 21:58:04


Post by: Gitsplitta


Glad it suits! Competition or not, I'll finish it as quickly as I can.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/11 00:28:41


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
It is a gloriously ridiculous gun. Positively orky, actually, in it's ridiculousness. Can't think why that's fitting for gits ...

Agreed!

I cant either, its just somehow....suitable...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/11 01:54:52


Post by: Gitsplitta


It's the *hit-eating grin & the stogie in combination with the thumbs up that makes it work. I could have him holding a Lehman Russ instead of the las cannon and it'd still look OK.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/11 19:45:51


Post by: inmygravenimage


I've managed to get some actual paint onto models, and am fairly pleased with the results. Mordrak is still very wip, and there's another squad and a half of tagk at this same stage:

Ridiculously proud of the fact the daemon's head has the impression of the hammer in it.


Might even try to freehand a baroque =][= on the cloak.


Might.


And the ghost knights. Essentially weeping angel scheme, but with green eyes and weapons. Pics are bit dark, sorry, lamp blew and haven't yet managed to discreetly thieve wife's old light tent.


The old kendo gks are hands down one of my favourite gw digs ever. They're actually pretty close to being done, really it's just going to be a case of dulling down, and then highlighting up, the bases. Want to keep these pretty simple.


Nice comparison hopefully of old and new. I wanted the ghost knights to show the spread of tagk that would've been the core of the monasteries defence.


Love the old figs! The "regular" librarian style gks have really grown on me, actually.


And a paladin (deceased) and fusion-fig of lots eras.

So yeah, paint.

Hopefully there will soon be more! C&C me if you're so minded,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/11 19:55:42


Post by: Gitsplitta


Nice stuff graven, you're really making good progress!

I also really like the libby style GKs. Maybe it's just that I really like the terminator librarian helmet design.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/11 21:57:42


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Very nice work graven!

The weeping angels is perfect for the Ghost Knights i have to say, i would have said maybe a touch lighter overall, but i like it...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/12 07:34:57


Post by: inmygravenimage


@gits: well, I've decided that if I can get my various tagk done, I can paint something else for a bit. Maybe some SoB for retinues/allies. It also means I can finally finish the Corpses of Chaos

@ Reiko: fair point, although they are lighter in rl. Actually like it as a gk scheme generally!

Hopefully not being able to prime stuff means I can get on with actual painting. We'll see


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/12 11:56:25


Post by: Revenent Reiko


forgot about the lack of lighting bulb....sorry. It would work wonderfully as a GK scheme, i agree!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/12 17:26:59


Post by: inmygravenimage


It meets the wife's approval too


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/12 21:05:52


Post by: monkeytroll


Progress! Nice!

I also love those old GK, they were awesome. They looked great with other Termie arms too.
A favourite of mine was one who I'd given a pair of lightning claws and painted black/grey - bad-ass termininja


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 01:07:11


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
It meets the wife's approval too

Always the best sign of excellence.... (being serious)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 07:43:45


Post by: inmygravenimage


Ghosties!
And a jury rigged light box (cake box, a classic)


















Stuff!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 10:12:53


Post by: bigfish


so cool


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 10:44:21


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


I love those old Grey Knights!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 10:45:15


Post by: nerdfest09


^ I concur! So, so cool!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 12:38:57


Post by: Solar_lion


Nice ghost knights..

My only suggestion would be to brighten up the sword/ weapon edges a bit.

SL


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/13 21:30:11


Post by: inmygravenimage


Cheers gang! And fair point S_L they could do with a bit more pop.
Got the base reds done on another 7 tagk tonight, along with a gk techmarine. I considered taking up the ones I'd already done up a level with orange because I'm not crazy about block painting. But, I figure that it's worth getting all the base colours down on the lot and moving on from there.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/14 21:47:20


Post by: inmygravenimage


Reds done on another 5 TAGK 6 to go...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/14 23:09:33


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Sounds like you are nearing the end of the TAGKs...feels weird *shudder*




Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/15 07:31:10


Post by: inmygravenimage


^ Tell me about it!


All reds done, all washed sepia. I've also started to block in colours on the 4 corpses of chaos that are on base already - a 1k son, Pink horror leader, Death Guard (that will be green, but I'm starting with a desert yellow base) and Skulltaker. You can also make out the Fallen Angel, BlackHand, Reaper, Violator and Horned Locust off to the right (it's a pretty big image, fairly zoomable).

Next up is golds on insignia, greens on books (mostly), and blues on psycannons. But, more importantly, this is progress!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/15 11:08:13


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looking good there my friend! Really starting to look like an army!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/15 15:02:41


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
^ Tell me about it!

Looking good!



Damn!! Knew there was something i was meant to do and didnt...sorry graven Ill get you the parts if you still want them...?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/15 16:58:41


Post by: evildrcheese


Looking good dude, the bases are gonna look wicked.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/15 17:45:30


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks chaps. And that big bottle of artist's grey you might be able to make out back left is great for urban terrain, it's fairly thin but drybrushes really well.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/16 16:48:14


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


Looking good Graven! Looks like a really nice army.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/18 14:39:52


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks mate.
Bit of delay to progress - wife ill, kid 1 sick, parents set to invade, garage at least 50% more £s - fun times!

Meanwhile nerdfest09 is sponsoring a "Squad Leader" painting competition! The prize is the first-ever "Golden Bathtub" award (inspired by a photo that was so, so wrong) Here's the link: Nerdfest's Squad Leader painting competition. Do go join in the party!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/18 15:03:08


Post by: Galorn


That army looks really good.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/18 15:04:20


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Ouch! hope RL sorts itself out soon dude.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/18 19:01:45


Post by: monkeytroll


Looking real good there now graven Painful, but worth it, that's going to be a heck of an army when done.

Sorry to hear RL is doing nothing to ease the middleagedrage.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/20 16:35:18


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks for the votes of confidence guys! Long weekend, but parents invading. RL headaches elicit my rage, middle aged or otherwise. Still, got some work done on my assassins, and need to finish building Welshmen for Tuesday. Also sorely tempted to convert my scratch built baneblade into a fell blade...
Anyway, Deathwatch Comp results are up over here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/270/464389.page#top


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/20 18:02:36


Post by: Miss Dee


See told you Id not win


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/20 22:42:01


Post by: inmygravenimage


Sh! spoilers!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 16:16:35


Post by: inmygravenimage


Not much progress, but found the time to finish off 3 of my kitbash assassins. Also been building Welshmen (Welshmen -Assemble!) and will try to take proper pics of them.

Eversor:


Vindicare:


And Callidus:


Better pics will follow when I do the Callidus! At least it proves I'm Alive!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 17:57:17


Post by: evildrcheese


The assassin kit-bashes are looking great, really like how the Vindicare turned out.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 18:39:01


Post by: monkeytroll


Looking good, if a bit dark


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 18:43:08


Post by: inmygravenimage


I'll have you know this the grimdark photography of tomorrow...
Obviously I meant better pics to follow when I've done the Culexus. Clearly, I am a bit drunk on roast lamb.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 19:06:05


Post by: monkeytroll


Ahhh, that would explain it then. It was the mix of the giant pink fingers and the grimdark style that was throwing me off. Never should have doubted you

And are you sure it was the lamb and not the whiskey you put in the oven then?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 19:17:36


Post by: inmygravenimage


Whisky was last night, single malt Islay Bruclaiddich Organic. Just wine tonight. God, I drink so much more when my parents stay! We went through 3 bottles of wine last night, as well as the uisge beatha.
Incidentally, also got the grey layer done on my base gravel for the remaining TAGK. That is a huge step as I can start building up the remaining colours and add the corpses too.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/23 20:39:15


Post by: Knightley


Those Assassins are looking amazing mate


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/26 06:48:47


Post by: inmygravenimage


Coming from you my friend, that is high praise indeed.

Back to front; first, some wips of my entry for NF9's squad leader comp here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/120/477119.page








Many, many, many bits here, Mordheim, Brass etch, pistoliers cloak, Chapterhouse pad... And a really big gun.

Had my first victorious game of SAGA with my mighty Welshmen.
Army List:
Mounted Warlord with Javelin
Hearthguard with Javelins
Mounted Warriors with Javelins
Mounted Warriors with Javelins
Warriors with Javelins
Levy with Bows
Levy with Bows

In SAGA, all units are standard (1pt=4 Hearthguard/8 warriors/12 levy); games are played at 6 pts (warlords are free). Welsh get javelins and choice to mount troops. My opponent was Vikings:

Warlord
Hearthguard x2
Berkserkers (Unique Hearthguard)
Warriors x3 (split into 2 12-man units)

Vikings are, as you'd imagine, very aggressive; Welsh the exact opposite. My successful strategy consisted of sitting in a bog with all my foot troops for most of the game, taking pot shots and hiding, whilst harrying and drawing out his troops with cavalry. It's a fantastic game: Welsh are so mind-bending to play, because you have to draw your opponent to you constantly, without engaging - really sneaky, and very patient. Love it. Check out Gripping Beast's website, and get yourselves some Dark Age love!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/26 09:47:18


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Looking good graven, i like the little wings! looking forward to seeing some more paint on him

You know, i have been looking through your old posts to try and see what game the Welshman were for and couldnt find it...Dark Age SAGA, right! Google here i come...

Congrats on the win, it sounds like a lot of fun as well! Its always good to try out a different play style as well (in comparison to, say, GK), gets you used to knowing what to expect from an opposing force...know your enemy and all that...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/26 20:50:58


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks mate. Yeah, it's a belter of a game. We had a couple of other mates watching and neither of them really mini fans - Heroclix cos they're a comic couple, more ccg/Rpg (marrieds that are part of my regular Rpg group, in fact). They - especially she - loved it. As she said, as a non wargamer, it was an incredibly accessible rulebook and a really fascinating, exciting game to watch. The game's core mechanic is the Battle Boards, where you roll dice and place them for in-turn effects. Also, every faction basically can double up as another (eg I could run my Welsh as Scots, erithromycin could run his Vikings as Jormsviking). Double the fun!

In other news, I've added bright reds and another layer of whites to 8 tagk, which I'm aiming to now just work on till they're done. Got a wee boost doing 4, and feel like working to the end of them. Nice to be working for the fun of the thing - I mean, why else do it?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 10:27:56


Post by: Revenent Reiko


No worries dude. It sounds it! i always think thats a sign of a good game, when a non-wargaming person (or couple in this case) gets drawn in...I have to say that im intrigued as well (not that my wallet can deal with me starting a new game, ive just started Infinity.... ), accessible, well written rules is always a good start as well (looking at you for the opposite GW...). ooo, doubling up, sweet!

Just had a look at the website, and i dont know if its because of my old, OLD browser (work, IE6....*sigh*), but it seems a bit all over the place...will have to look again when i get home i think to make more sense of it...

Thats the best way, do it when you enjoy it....looking forward to seeing the finished product!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 11:59:33


Post by: inmygravenimage


Website is guff. Rules are gorgeous though, and if you're wanting to save money you can always use paper minis - Arion Games Vikings and Normans are particularly good!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 13:08:44


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
Website is guff. Rules are gorgeous though, and if you're wanting to save money you can always use paper minis - Arion Games Vikings and Normans are particularly good!


Thats the impression i got, couldnt even find a list of the races, let alone the rules or anything...

yeah? I will have to check them out, that sound slike a pretty good way to get into a game (of course, not having any friends that play miniature games doesnt help at all...), thanks graven!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 16:12:56


Post by: inmygravenimage


A core mechanic is fatigue: a little like pushing in Heroclix, basically taking extra actions (limited by rank); in combat, your opponent can spend your fatigue to give themselves advantages.

Base set factions are:
Vikings: very aggressive, use fatigue to get extra attacks
Anglo-Danes: axes, extra attacks for lower armour
Normans: cavalry, long range crossbows, fatigue opponents
Welsh: cavalry, javelins on everything, low armour.

Northern Fury adds
Jormsviking: aggressive, give opponents bonuses to get bonuses for yourself
Anglo-Saxon: Danes but with more fatigue manipulation.
Scots: Counter-attack based
Bretons: very light cavalry, very fast

And the standalone set is Skraelings (American Indian) which basically steal abilities off your opponent's board.

I really should write this up as an article! I also need to make some marshes (terrain setup rules are interesting, semi-random, scenario based) - they're good terrain as welsh have ignore terrain penalties as their core battle board ability.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 17:07:49


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Hmm, now thats a concept i hadnt thought of, fatigue as a core mechanic..i like it! Thats really quite sneakily clever...

Thanks for the run down of the factions as well, makes a bit more sense looking at the website (i know, i know, i should have given up the first time... )

You should write it up as an article! Or maybe a 'Welcome to SAGA' Thread in the Misc. Miniature Games Forum (if it isnt covered by the 'Historical Gaming' Forum, im not sure....), would be a great addition im sure!

O and....i had never heard of Heroclix until now... but i like the idea of Heroes as minis, thats pretty damn cool!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 20:09:49


Post by: eldartau1987


I enjoy the squad leader a good bit. It is going to look very dynamic when you are done with painting and the like!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 20:46:03


Post by: inmygravenimage


^Thanks man!
Here's a better pic:


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 20:52:20


Post by: Bash the Bosh


graven - I've just spent the last 3 hours of my shift catching up with your work. Amazing as usual mate. I'm particularly enjoying the GK's. And Mrs Delicious' cakes.

Bash


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 21:40:09


Post by: inmygravenimage


Well, then you'll like what's a-coming:
wife was baking so had the proper light tent set up. Cue "test pics" done with minis.

The promised assassins:
Callidus -


Vindicare and his mould line


Everesor, dodgy lighting (and mould line on the knee CURSES!)


Some Paladin WIPs. A falchion dude:


Banner and psycannon. What? Overkill? Nahhhh...

Obviously colours just started on banner.
Reverse:

Sneaky use of BT bits!

Paladin Killer of 1K sons:

Vallejo Turquoise - just a lovely, lovely colour.

My original Mordrak build, now relegated to Justicar:


Pierced Pink Horror. Really pleased where the various flesh/bone tones are going here:


Paladin with the beginnings of death guard corpse:


One of my favourite poses, and an utterly random assemblage of parts:


My 4 yr old's favourite "Space Knight":

Although apparently he needs a horse...

Some work also on my techmarine, though not as far along:





And my librarian with force staff, who's a bit further along:


Oh, And, my Dad's birthday cake for tomorrow, at the wife's instance:



Later y'all,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 21:56:39


Post by: monkeytroll


Quality cake. Might have been some other stuff too, but cake over-writes everything


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 22:40:04


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Mmmm super tasty looking cake Mrs Delicious!

O yeah, erm, some nice minis or something graven.....


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/27 22:52:57


Post by: monkeytroll


Ok, now I've eaten I might be able to see what it was you wanted us to look at.

Up there was it?

Okey, dokey, pig in a pokey. Up we scroll, and......


CAKE!!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/28 01:42:21


Post by: Gitsplitta


Wow graven... you've been a busy boy!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/28 15:48:20


Post by: Miss Dee


mmmmmmmmmmmmm cake

Do one fer mah smurfday please


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/28 16:14:00


Post by: nerdfest09


Wallace and grommit are going to go A over T on those carrots if you don't move them!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/28 18:12:24


Post by: monkeytroll


Oh I suppose the paladins look alright now you mention it, and the techmarine's quite tasty. Hmm tasty taste, where's that cake?

Your 4 yr old has good taste, and now I'm eagerly awaiting the space-horse


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/28 18:16:37


Post by: Miss Dee


 monkeytroll wrote:
Oh I suppose the paladins look alright now you mention it, and the techmarine's quite tasty. Hmm tasty taste, where's that cake?

Your 4 yr old has good taste, and now I'm eagerly awaiting the space-horse


Yeah me to o


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/30 16:00:18


Post by: inmygravenimage


Right, well, here we go then!

First up the Librarian:

I do love this model. I've tried to go a bit more glow-y than usual; successful or no?

Closer:


And reverse:

Glad I went for the blue pad at the last minute.

Anyway, onto the good stuff (well, ish):

Bannerman:


And a close up for the BlackHand corpse:


Mr Choppy:


GK vs horror - I assumed it's pink, or at least it is now (mind you that would be very Tzeentch, wouldn't it, a Pink Blue horror just to confuse us?)



GK vs Death Guard - love that techy torso for Nurgleys

Death to Mabrothrax!

Very pleased with quartered shield too, though the pic's not great of that.

I just like this guy's paladin icon:



A very special one this, the first I finished - the doomed Horned Locust, fallen Mantis Warrior



And some 1 on 1k son action:




Hope that's pleasant viewing, C&C me gang!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/30 16:16:31


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Very pleasant viewing, looking good graven!

I like the glow on the libby, muted, but it does come out on the model that he is glowing, colour me impressed

As to the others, i cant wait to see the whole Chaos-destroying squad all together...

EDIT: Aww i forgot my marine....love the pose, looks like hes just taken his head off and is about to bash his corpse for getting its head stuck on his halberd...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/30 18:45:15


Post by: monkeytroll


Hmm, no cake? No space-horse? I feel the quality of this thread is decreasing

Nice glow on the libby, think that's just the right level for your paint style - certainly with these guys

Others all looking good, stand outs are banner man, mabrothrax-killer and yellow-horror-through-a-red-lens killer. Have you considered a red wash around the very edge of the marines face where it comes off the Arnie skull?

Obviously that's not including the horned locust guy, who is just plain awesome, both for the great locust marine and the way the gk has killed him and just moved on.



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/30 21:59:09


Post by: inmygravenimage


Revenent Reiko wrote:Very pleasant viewing, looking good graven!

I like the glow on the libby, muted, but it does come out on the model that he is glowing, colour me impressed

As to the others, i cant wait to see the whole Chaos-destroying squad all together...

EDIT: Aww i forgot my marine....love the pose, looks like hes just taken his head off and is about to bash his corpse for getting its head stuck on his halberd...


Glad you liked so much. I shall have to get on with the rest I suppose... Oh, and glad you approve of your decapitation!

monkeytroll wrote:Hmm, no cake? No space-horse? I feel the quality of this thread is decreasing

Nice glow on the libby, think that's just the right level for your paint style - certainly with these guys

Others all looking good, stand outs are banner man, mabrothrax-killer and yellow-horror-through-a-red-lens killer. Have you considered a red wash around the very edge of the marines face where it comes off the Arnie skull?

Obviously that's not including the horned locust guy, who is just plain awesome, both for the great locust marine and the way the gk has killed him and just moved on.



Good call on the red wash. I like that a lot. I apologise for failing you once again in other regards, like Starscream to your Megatron...

Really need to crack on - it's very satisfying to see an army unfold in full.

Also - Whoops, missed one!

No horse though. Ah well.

Found the Culexus, yay! He was hiding. Cheeky assassin.



And a further wip for nerdfest's comp:


I'm thinking of adding some weeping angel allies, possibly counts as dc although that feels a bit beardy. Thoughts?

Hey Ho,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/09/30 22:00:00


Post by: GiraffeX


They are all looking very nice Graven. I really like the glow effect on the libby, not too sure about all those poor chaos marines


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 0400/09/30 23:14:09


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
he was hiding


This...does not surprise me

EDIT: no worries bud, and of course i like it, nothing like seeing your own demise to brighten your day...o, wait...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/01 20:54:26


Post by: inmygravenimage


^

Damn kid's been in bits box again:

It's like a Dalek and old falcon grav tank made sweet mechanical love.

And some wip progress, hopefully starting to become a bit more apparent where I'm aiming with this. Much more shading and highlighting than usual, but the basic scheme is my usual.



Automatically Appended Next Post:
@GiraffeX: heresy! I'd send assassin after you if I could find them again!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/01 21:01:41


Post by: eldartau1987


In the grimdark of the future there is only, PSYLENCER!!!!!!!

He looks good. Even more so now that he has paint!
Keep it up!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/01 21:52:43


Post by: evildrcheese


The Culexus looks really cool! Great job.

That crazy tank thing made me chuckle, I love the idea of a giant flail on a grav tank, must be a swine to steer in a straight line.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 10:02:06


Post by: inmygravenimage


eldartau1987 wrote:In the grimdark of the future there is only, PSYLENCER!!!!!!!

He looks good. Even more so now that he has paint!
Keep it up!


Yeah, the more I look the more l like the sheer daftness of it, seems very setting appropriate. I might switch the sword hand for another though, just for a bit more wow.

New/better pics:


evildrcheese wrote:The Culexus looks really cool! Great job.


That crazy tank thing made me chuckle, I love the idea of a giant flail on a grav tank, must be a swine to steer in a straight line.

D

Fly me closer that I might hit it with my flail!

Yeah he's cute isn't he? My local gw had him on their fb for a while which made very happy graven.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 10:11:29


Post by: Miss Dee


Looks like something from TerrorHawks


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 17:56:34


Post by: Solar_lion


Coming along Nicely . they look very genuine and threatening




Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 18:03:08


Post by: eldartau1987


The only thing that bothers me about the model is not the pose or anything but the size of the cannon. Psilencers are cool and all but for some reason it does not sit all that well with me.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 18:18:24


Post by: monkeytroll


'For I am a Grey Knight, and I wield weapons that are bigger than you with one hand my ugly demonic friend. Now eat psy-bolts and shut up'

Quallity pose, looking all the better for paint


And kudos to the boy for the grav-flailer, I'm really digging his contraptions


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 21:09:08


Post by: inmygravenimage



@ Miss Dee: now I just need some cubes...
@Solar_Lion: cheers mate!
@eldartau: I do take your point, it is rather ott! But, such is grimdark.
@mt: quite so and yeah, the boy's a nutter after your heart, eh?

Not content with your most generous comments, I felt the sword was a bit... conventional. Some rummaging and fiddling and I came up with this:

Lettering down it will say Psilence, I suspect

Oh and mrs graven is up to something...

Yes, that's a led with micro battery in the top. And yes, it's a cake.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 21:10:45


Post by: Miss Dee


As long as they do not look Dicey


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 21:23:55


Post by: eldartau1987


Hey! Here is my sword! it does a great job of balancing out the model. Good job.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 21:33:10


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Nice! The 'im a special sword, honest' sword definitely is better, much as i thought the original was good...

Mmmm CAKE! (your doing it again graven, you know this doesnt end well... ) LEDs? impressed! The best my mum did (as another cake maker) was to make a cake with a giant zit on it (for a Dermatologist no less) then, when you pinched the zit, it was filled with custard!!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 21:45:32


Post by: Miss Dee


Can I have a Darlek cake?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 22:33:14


Post by: monkeytroll


CAKE!!

Tardis cake at that!

Sword's good, needs more icing though


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 22:35:09


Post by: inmygravenimage


@eldar - that was the plan, glad it works for you.
@reiko - cake

Now, of course, I'm wondering whether he should be holding a daemon head in the left hand...

@miss dee - that'd be even more of a nightmare!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Mock-up:



Automatically Appended Next Post:
@mt: Ichor, not icing


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 22:43:34


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Definitely a Nurgle cake!

Hmm, im not convinced, by the pose he is shooting it out with one enemy, while going to decapitate another, so he wouldnt be holding the head....yet

I would almost have said, reverse the sword hand, and have the head piercing the head on the floor, as if he is shooting in one direction, while finishing off a floored enemy in the other....but the base isnt big enough...

I do, however, see exactly where you are going with it...

If you are looking for something else to help balance the left side of the model, maybe get some purity seals going on the sword? Could have them all going in the same direction so that it gives the illusion of movement (obviously) as if he is gonig for the sweep...i dont know how to incorporate the head into that though....sorry.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 22:50:12


Post by: inmygravenimage


I dunno, I can imagine a fearsome battle cry of "Who's next then?"! It's okay, I'm not sold on the head either yet. The floor is a big drippy khorne icon (icing?) rather than a corpse. Played with adding some purity seals of various lengths, just ended up looking like streamers I have added one drained across the back of the psilencer itself though. I think he's probably busy enough, and I need to know when to stop!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/02 23:33:03


Post by: monkeytroll


He should be holding two cream eclairs in one hand with a chlsea bun in his mouth whilst kicking a scone.

Uhh, demon heads, csm head and greater demon in the balls, that's what I meant to say.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 00:48:36


Post by: Gitsplitta


Love the cake!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 10:04:30


Post by: Revenent Reiko


monkeytroll wrote:He should be holding two cream eclairs in one hand with a chlsea bun in his mouth whilst kicking a scone.

Uhh, demon heads, csm head and greater demon in the balls, that's what I meant to say.

I like this idea....

inmygravenimage wrote:I dunno, I can imagine a fearsome battle cry of "Who's next then?"! It's okay, I'm not sold on the head either yet. The floor is a big drippy khorne icon (icing?) rather than a corpse. Played with adding some purity seals of various lengths, just ended up looking like streamers I have added one drained across the back of the psilencer itself though. I think he's probably busy enough, and I need to know when to stop!

Good point, i can see that too! Im just trying to imagine his movements and how the sword would end up on that side of his body without his hand being upside down....Ahh, i wondered what it was (i can tell its going to look good, but not exactly what it is...).

Streamers? well that is kind of what i was thinking....near the hilt only of course, but to give the left side of the model some bulk that doesnt detract from the excellent blade or the rest of the model...he is a bit busy though, you may well be right...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 14:09:34


Post by: eldartau1987


I feel that adding the head would make it too busy.

Also, You have quite the artistic family! That cake is superb!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 17:38:04


Post by: Miss Dee


Is it bigger on the inside?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 18:02:39


Post by: inmygravenimage


Well, we'll see about the streamers Soubds like a nix on the head.
Oh, and we considered putting the cake on a mirror tile so it DID seem bigger on the inside...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 18:30:32


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Epic thinking graven...mirrors, is this the answer all DW fans have been looking for?!

EDIT: Just to clarify, im not against the daemon head in the hand, just worried it puts quite a lot of the model all on one side....and i cant help but think about the various poses and how the model would have gotten there...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 18:44:54


Post by: Llamahead


Well that cake will give you plenty of energy for when your being chased down corridors......


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 18:51:56


Post by: inmygravenimage


4 layers of Madeira fillies with jam and butter cream, dark chocolate ganache and a Rice Krispie cake roof? I should coco


Hopefully you can see the light a bit better here.
Wife is indeed very talented. She's the one who actually did art at school (her, the microbiologist).

I think the head is just a wee bit much - not fussed about over kill but I just don't think it needs it. I am thinking seriously about the streamers though, and how best to approach them, possibly in the style of the gk halberd that has hundreds of the bloody things. Coiling round his hand could be cool too though. Or. Possibly. Chain?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 20:08:37


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Mmmmmm, that sounds pretty amazing....im glad ive just eaten, otherwise id be running downstairs to find something sweet to sate my hunger! The light is impressive (dont forget to take the wires and things out before you cut into the cake..been there, done that, didnt go well... )

Theres some art (somewhere) of a sword/halberd/some weapon covered in sweeping purity seals, that looks amazing (which is what i was thinking of when i saw him 'going for the swing' as it were), been trying to find it and...well, cant...

Ooooo, chains...good shout...



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 20:23:51


Post by: inmygravenimage


Light has a battery contained within the case; dissected from a light-up kids' balloon.
Right, for the record, I loathe working with brass etch!


Note the ribbons, reiko


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 20:36:40


Post by: eldartau1987


That sword is legit man!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 22:33:06


Post by: Revenent Reiko


i see them, and im loving it! As well as the DW reference on the sword...epic work! Really makes that sword pop...

smart move on the cake/light situation.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/03 23:51:53


Post by: Gitsplitta


"Psilence" is indeed golden... or at least brass at any rate.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/04 19:23:52


Post by: Knightley


That sword is totally boss graven!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/04 19:50:43


Post by: inmygravenimage


I'm chuffed the sword's getting a lot of love. It was a PITA to do! Wife is concerned that scenic looks silly next to figure now though - valid, or womanly folly? Her and her proportions...


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Also, I realise I never put up a pic of the blade's reverse:


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/04 21:48:08


Post by: Revenent Reiko


As it should get a lot! The Inq symbol balances well on the back as well, but....is that a chip i see in the sword blade? Its fine so long as its brought out in the paint job

silly how? i still think it gives a good background to the figure....but i may be wrong


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/05 19:47:35


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks mr. Yeah, that chip is there and will have attention drawn to it in the paintjob, hopefully.
So, first up, I now have the new sword arm up to where the rest of the build is, as well as adding some more seals, flesh tones and blue for basing the glow on the psilencer off.



Also, I had a request from Skalk Bloodaxe to provide some more up to date pics of my Sanctum Sororitas, which I've done, and has got me thinking about finishing it off.


There's some zenithal shading here, although I'm not sure how obvious it is!



And then I thought well, as long as I'm updating old stuff, I should look at my retinues:


And hey, my =][= could do with their next layer:


Or even some colour:


Who knows, maybe I'll even finish something at some point?


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(Also, apologies for dreadful last pix!)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/05 20:59:47


Post by: LeadLegion


I keep forgetting just how quickly you work Graven. I don't visit for a week and you've got four more pages of posts for me to read.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/05 21:06:33


Post by: inmygravenimage


I don't work quickly. I just have so much stuff part painted that a single layer on a few minis creates the illusion of progress.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 04:31:53


Post by: Gitsplitta


Need.... new..... camera!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 07:29:12


Post by: inmygravenimage


Need camera with batteries that hasn't been stolen for baking! Actually, even though I never thought it would be a factor, it's enough to make me consider switching to an iPhone 4 (or even a 5...) just for sake of handy, half-decent pics!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 07:34:32


Post by: Miss Dee


But Graven U know what cake I want


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 09:14:40


Post by: inmygravenimage


Cake does not survive well in the post, alas...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 11:10:39


Post by: Gitsplitta


I have an i-phone 4. Takes decent enough mini pics. Still prefer my Nikon, but I've used the i-phone in a pinch and haven't heard anyone complain.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 13:38:32


Post by: inmygravenimage


Ah, see, I have a 3. I could drop £300 and get a 5 on my current contract. Tempting, but obviously pricey.


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Ah, see, I have a 3. I could drop £300 and get a 5 on my current contract. Tempting, but obviously pricey.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 14:03:39


Post by: Gitsplitta


I just bought a brand new Nikon D3100 for $500 US (and that's just from the store, you could probably find it cheaper on the internets). Fantastic camera, comes with a lens that can take macro shots (all my latest shots have been with it). Does all kinds of other, great "camera" stuff (been taking pictures of Thing 1 & 2 at track and soccer games as the auto-focus will track moving objects, taking pics for work, etc.). It even takes videos I think.

That's what... 350.00 ish in pounds sterling? You might be better off buying a real camera rather than another phone.



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 17:16:20


Post by: inmygravenimage


Oh, I have a real camera, Fuji finepix, and it's a beaut. It's just the wife always steals it!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 17:33:49


Post by: Gitsplitta


Ahhh... then you must steal it back grasshopper.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 20:33:04


Post by: Miss Dee


Treat her bribe her and dont get her preggers this time..............


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 21:52:32


Post by: inmygravenimage


 Gitsplitta wrote:
Ahhh... then you must steal it back grasshopper.

Clearly, I am in fact Keith Caradine. Who knew

Better pics of the Sanctum Sororitas firstly:


That's a chaos corpse in there. It's metropolis, who in addition to being a great guy is quite churchy, so was amused at being a corpse in a sort of church (what? I have strange friends. It's good to have a sense of humour about your religion.) It even has his beard.

So then, I thought I'd use the as a backdrop for my pics; if nothing else, it lets me see how my basing style gels with my terrain/board goals. I'll get those up shortly.

... (comes back with tea)

Right, where was I?
Oh yes.

Nobody expects the Imperial Inquisition!

Karamazov

(bit over exposed, bah)

Hammerstein

(bit fuzzy, double bah!)

Hector Rex


Grimdarkius

Almost wished I'd saved him to be a Reclusiarch for my Weepers; ah well.

Margar


And Valerya, who breaks one of my golden rules

Although it's not obvious at this stage, I'm flesh toning her boobs. I am not a big fan of the pneumatic look in my hobby, but I think it is character appropriate: she will do absolutely anything, use any weapon, in pursuit of the Emperor's enemies.

Some servitors etc:



And some (hopefully) better WIP shots of my competition entry:

again, rather over exposed

Some weapon OSL


A better view of the sword's reverse:


And a better shot of his base:


And that, really, is me!

C&C me big time,
Ten dollah,
graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/06 23:57:17


Post by: monkeytroll


Very nice!

Hammerstein looks great, could only be improved by an orange/red colour scheme

Some lovely shading on Hector and Grimdarkius, book looks fantastic.

And again for Margar's bolter

Mr Psilence is looking golden. Coming together very nicely, that's going to be a beautiful piece when done.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/07 00:51:42


Post by: Gitsplitta


Fantastic work graven... man you've got some really great models there! Nice work on the OSL.

Where's the hot tub and bikini-sororitas for the sanctum?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/07 01:47:35


Post by: monkeytroll


Fixed what

whoooo! spooky time jump.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/07 02:13:15


Post by: Gitsplitta


Fixed that... thanks MT.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/07 19:13:01


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks guys. I've tried to put together a selection of decent photos of the hopefully finished model.

Front view. Not sure which is my favourite.


2, possibly?

Rear:


The 2nd, possibly, although there's weird mould-liney shadows that aren't there in RL.

Face shots:


Really not sure which I prefer!

Base detail, with some OSL orange glow:





Weapon OSL


Shoulder details



I think I'm happy with him but I'm now unable to step back, really, and judge him fairly. C&C me, mes amis,
graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/07 19:43:20


Post by: monkeytroll


Second pic for the first two, first pic for the face. All of them for the details

Very nice indeed graven, gorgeous work. Your techniques are really working well together, the dry-brushing, shading and osl all combining to make something that looks like it's stepped out of it's own reality. It all meshes nicely is what I'm getting at
Kudos.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/07 20:34:01


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Agreed with monkey, he looks excellent!

congrats on a beautiful model graven, its really all come together for him...I would say the second one for the face, it shows more of the detail on his chest and 'streamers' as well as his face (nice work on that btw!)...

Cant decide on the rest, sorry...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 10:53:36


Post by: inmygravenimage


monkeytroll wrote:Second pic for the first two, first pic for the face. All of them for the details

Very nice indeed graven, gorgeous work. Your techniques are really working well together, the dry-brushing, shading and osl all combining to make something that looks like it's stepped out of it's own reality. It all meshes nicely is what I'm getting at
Kudos.

Thanks mate, and I agree on pics. I'm sounded to taking hundreds for the wife that I get a bit over excited when I get my camera
Revenent Reiko wrote:Agreed with monkey, he looks excellent!to myself!

As for your comments I know my style of painting is quite idiosyncratic - it works for me but never sure of others' tastes, you know?

congrats on a beautiful model graven, its really all come together for him...I would say the second one for the face, it shows more of the detail on his chest and 'streamers' as well as his face (nice work on that btw!)...

Cant decide on the rest, sorry...


I really, really struggled to get the face snapped well. And I am fully willing to acknowledge your streamer input

Thanks chaps - and keep em coming!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 11:43:26


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Haha i meant you had done great work on the face! But thanks The effort was worth it, even though i can see the issues youve had (with various focus point im guessing?), it came out really well...

And im not saying the streamers dont look excellent as well, cos they do!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 19:21:42


Post by: Knightley


- I dig the wings on his back!
- The blue glow on the weapon is top notch, I see lots pf power there
- I feel that the sword hand has a bit to much in terms of parchments
- The close up of the face is pretty awesomesauce


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 19:51:07


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ reiko: true true. I think a big factor is that I fixed my lamp so have a decent, posable light source, as well as a decent camera, which did ultimately enable the face to work.

@ knightley: I know, where have I seen that before? Getting the balance of osl seems to be about right now, I don't like too much glow but a little really works for me. I know the sword is a bit preposterous but I think I invoke the power of Character Mimi at that point - I think it can get away with it, just about. Really stoked you like his mug as yours are always so characterful. Used a new set of paints for his flesh (VJ Elf, Flat and Pale. As a a set they seem to run nicely.

Next should be more work on the =][=!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 19:55:31


Post by: eldartau1987


I like this!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 21:20:51


Post by: inmygravenimage


^ Thanks bud! Your input was much appreciated in the early stages.

Proof of other stuff: blocking in turquoise on Ordo Hereticus:


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/08 23:17:31


Post by: Gitsplitta


Oooh... like the turquoise!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/09 06:49:06


Post by: weetyskemian44


Wow you have definitely upped your painting skills recently. This lastest mob look delightfully gothic.and dark.

Amazing cakes too. With those same skills plus a kiln she could be a ceramic sculptor.


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For that matter maybe I should make more cakes.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/09 10:04:29


Post by: LeadLegion


Much better photography Graven. Nice work on the lighting effects.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/11 21:23:49


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


I like the turquoise too. Tell Mrs Graven the Tardis is awesome!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 05:43:49


Post by: inmygravenimage


Hey guys, sory I've been off radar for a few days, work's been a bit crazy. Pesky RL.

Gitsplitta wrote:Oooh... like the turquoise!


Reaper Man 2020 wrote:I like the turquoise too.


VJ MC Turquoise - an amazing colour. Much, much thicker than many of their paints (although that's generally the case with MC range) so has to be thinned, but the coverage is amazing and it's really rich and vibrant, especially over the whitish base.

LeadLegion wrote:Much better photography Graven. Nice work on the lighting effects.


Thanks man. Fixing my lamp has been on my to do list for ages, just never got round to it! And I know that decent mini photography (or lack thereof) is your bete noir.

weetyskemian44 wrote:Wow you have definitely upped your painting skills recently. This lastest mob look delightfully gothic.and dark.


That's a serious compliment coming from someone of your talents and I was definitely inspired by your methods - we seem in some ways to have similar philosophy about bases and washes, and you have proven time and again that an idiosyncratic approach to painting is no bad thing.

weetyskemian44 wrote: Amazing cakes too. With those same skills plus a kiln she could be a ceramic sculptor.

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For that matter maybe I should make more cakes.


Reaper Man 2020 wrote:I like the turquoise too. Tell Mrs Graven the Tardis is awesome!


Yeah, she's very talented. My mother, who used to do a lot of ceramics, has made the same observation, worryingly enough. Currently she's planning what to do for #1's birthday: I suspect some form of transformer cake with functioning eyes/headlights.

About all I've had the time to do is put together a composite shot for the competition:


Still, I'm off next week, so might get some odds and ends done. Possibly more on various Hereticus WIPs, as they're quite fun and actually don't need a huge amount of work (metals, highlights on cloth, bit of general tidying), although knowing me I'll probably get (a) side-tracked and (b) distracted by tiny details.

Adios,
graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 08:35:44


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Like the composite pic, just one thing, the smallest picture (right at the bottom) seems out of place for some reason...

Hadnt noticed the rather amazing shoulderpad before either!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 10:21:04


Post by: inmygravenimage


A wee bit big maybe? Only way I could show the very subtle osl orange though. Chapterhouse shoulder pad, an absolute beauty. Having spent about 3 hrs making the composite manually the wife said "oh, you've been using my picasa then?" um, nope...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 10:47:00


Post by: Revenent Reiko


I would have said a bit small weirdly....it took me a moment to work out what it was a shot of, and its noticeably smaller than the other parts of the composite. I know exaclty where you are coming from, as the subtle OSL is rather beautifully done, so it does deserve its own special place, trying to think of a way to do it..(that you havent already thought of )

Ahh thats where its from! Its gorgeous, it really is, great use of it too graven!

Noooo that must have been a kick in the unmentionables...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 14:17:53


Post by: eldartau1987


Nice Graven! He came out very well!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 18:15:04


Post by: LeadLegion


@ Graven: Bette Noir? Nah, my photographer is called Caroline. Never heard of this Betty chick, like.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/12 18:35:32


Post by: monkeytroll


Sweet. But I agree with Reiko about that one shot - maybe enlarge it and swap it with the psilencer shot, that might be a better fit?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/13 15:04:29


Post by: inmygravenimage


Cheers for the great comments gang.

Still not of much p&m done, but...


Nuff said.


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Well. Ish.

2 questions:
1. My local hobbycraft still has da vet sets for £15 - sorely tempted to pick them up to cannibalise, but I do have all the pagk in the world now!

2. I'm sorely tempted to rebuild my mentors as weepers, still. Is this an idiotic idea that I'm going to really regret down the line?

And one other thing: 1st stage metals (brass) and highlights on turq (60/40 with VJ Pale Flesh, then ~30/70 the other way).


Busy busy!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/14 15:19:16


Post by: inmygravenimage


Added some verdigris to the sanctum, and tidied up the sobs too. Done the lenses black gloss, going to experiment with dark gem methods *gulp* This is also a photo experiment, camera phone with repaired lamp. Opinions?

Obviously not as good as camera pics but passable, at least for quick wip shots, I think.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/14 15:49:50


Post by: nerdfest09


Yeah man, passable shots! a hint when taking with your phone camera is to grab a blob of Blu-Tac to rest it on while you shoot pics, stops the shaky shaky we often get :-)

and I'm liking that shrine! I'm painting one as well and they're a big bit of kit to paint with a bunch of details you dont see until it's damn well in front of you and you want to finish it grrr! ...... yours is looking good! :-)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/14 17:51:48


Post by: monkeytroll


Certainly good enough for wide wip shots like that one. Which looks fine by the way

Sanctum verdigris looks good, and a bit of life appearing in the sisters too.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/14 18:24:15


Post by: Briancj


Two suggestions:

1) Buy a cellphone tripod, they're cheap.

2) Use two lamps, it really helps.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/14 18:51:29


Post by: inmygravenimage


@nf - ta! I'm not attempting anything as ambitious as your magnificent marbling. But I know what you mean about all the detailing. I've also added lots of tube and and H beams (kids' balloon sticks - cheap and easily stolen ) Btw those shrine-plaques off the bastion are a good size for doors on this bad boy.

@mt - yeah, still early days. Hair needs washed (as it were) and more dusty drybrushing. Verdigris likewise, need to get of bestial brown equivalent into the mix (helps round out the colours I find) and of course some copper. Other metal tones'll make into the mix too, especially some more green. Once I'm happy with the combination of colour I'll break out the detailing on the banners, panels etc.


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@ Briancj - true. I actually have another 4 lamps, burg they're so far away across the kitchen...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/15 12:51:45


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


The weathering on the shrine is excellent. Thanks for sharing the formula.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/15 12:59:34


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looks great Graven! Is that the sun reflected in the background? Is that allowed in the UK? Wait... no, it's just a picture on a box. That makes more sense.





Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/15 13:21:27


Post by: eldartau1987


The new batch of models looks great! I do like the tourquise and your metals are awesome. As far as a repaint goes, I would say that if you feel that you really want to do it go for it but right now I am in the middle of one and really hate myself for it!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/16 00:35:09


Post by: LeadLegion


Yup, re-paints are never great. It feels like losing ground. I'm not so much re-painting my Imp Guard at the moment as advancing their quality by adding a few more highlighting layers to the flesh and textiles and re-painting their body armour.

If you really want to do more work on already painted models, it's a lot better for your sanity, motivation and patience to simply add a few more stages to the existing paint job rather than re-do them altogether.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/16 06:56:52


Post by: inmygravenimage


Ah, I should clarify. They are largely unpainted, but they are built. So I'd need to pop a *lot* of shoulder pads add replace them accordingly.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/16 10:51:35


Post by: DarkStarSabre


 inmygravenimage wrote:

2. I'm sorely tempted to rebuild my mentors as weepers, still. Is this an idiotic idea that I'm going to really regret down the line?


Redoing an army is something that can seriously go either way. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Knightley and Skalk are two folk here that have pretty much redone stuff up to a top notch so clearly they're positive examples for it.

I just cheated with my re-do of my Iron Warriors. Stripped what I could bare and incorporated bits and pieces of them into the Blighted Brigade (guess where the Vindicator went) and the Extinction Angels.

Now my actual Death Guard/Apostles of Contagion? All FW stuff though that may change shortly enough and yes, some old Terminators from my Blighted Brigade might migrate over (as Obliterators!).

Go with your gut. If you feel you can do them justice then do it. If not then perhaps keeping them as is for the sake of nostalgia?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/16 11:03:08


Post by: inmygravenimage


Yeah, it's a tough call. Obviously I put a lot of work into the design of them etc, made god knows how many owl insignias etc., yet I find it very difficult to motivate myself to paint them. Nevertheless, it's a bit of a leap from that to rebuilding. Some things that I'd want to incorporate - eg using teleporter packs as jump packs so they can Blink - are already built. Ach, I dunno *shrug*


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/19 20:02:43


Post by: inmygravenimage


So back from holidays, and lovely they were. As a family break in Scotland, I recommend Crieff Hydro very highly.

Karamazov.

Wife commented he could use more blood spatter around the base, and then realised she was thinking like a gamer she's right of course. Still needs his Alpha Legion corpse, naturally other than that, and some text on his groin scroll, not sure what more needs done without being OTT?

Grimdarkius:

First stage reds and purples added. I do love this chap.

This guy needs a new name. Any suggestions?


Similar stage to Grimdarkius. Liking his skin tone, hair next.

Acolyte - yellow needs work around the edges.


Servitor - needs grey/metals added.


Sisters, and the Sanctum, to follow!

Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/19 20:26:23


Post by: Gitsplitta


Love those graven... very nice. I really like the tints of color on the big scrolls on Kaz's thing.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/19 21:03:50


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks buddy. I was going for some variety there, there's just so damn many scrolls - and a whitish paint scheme anyway - had to try to stop them blending together.
I also am feeling very time-pressed - Mrs G has been a caking, leaving me with 2 increasingly frustrated hyper kids, and my "break" amounted to a scattered and disrupted half hour *sigh* not their fault really, but hard graft nonetheless.
Anyway, as promised...



I actually rather like the gloss lenses. I may just leave it that way. Missus feels that the turq is starting to look a bit washed out on the sisters. I can see where she's coming from; views?

Incidentally, with all of these, I used 2 lamps. Blame Briancj!

The rationale behind the IG Flamer pack on her was simply I was one short and it worked for the unit leader!

Formerly had a Storm Bolter:

Alas, the shame! I can see grey in that barrel!

Very fond of this mini, face needs work though:

I don't know if I'd ever play SoB, the cost seems prohibitive, but if I ever did I'm fairly sure I'd want plenty o' meltas.


Not sure if the hair colour is a bit too plumy?

This young lady's inside thigh needs a bit of attention:

I do rather like this scheme for SoB although I wonder if it's not better suited to power armoured man-dolls.

More inattentive thigh!

I wonder if perhaps they're suffering from being block painted, when there's such a level of detail on their lovely metal surfaces. I think that, when it comes to tidying them, I suspect I should focus on them individually (like the =][=s) rather than as a unit.

Of course, they are still wip, though.


Nonetheless, sloppy edging of cloth


And a mould line to finish. Yay. Wow, these look gak in hi-def :(


And the Sanctum, which progresses apace-ish:


Hmm. Feeling a bit down on these now. Perhaps should go back to my gks, though I have enjoyed the variation sob offered. Might be as well seeing them through just now and that'll gee me up a bit. #1 wants to do some tank building tomorrow so stuff may emerge from the big box o'doom!

Adios muchachos (or as my nurgle phone tries to autocorrect to, mucus cups),
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/19 23:15:29


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think some more vibrant shadows wouldn't hurt them (in the blue).


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/20 11:53:07


Post by: monkeytroll


Life lessons from graven: don't give mucus cups as farewel gifts, spend more attention on lady's inner thighs - these will serve you well young padawan....

Sister's turquoise is at the edge of fadyness (that is so a word, you just haven't come across it before), prsonally I think they're good as is, but Gits may have it with a more vibrant shadow (no fence sitting around here, oh no ).

Loving the colours on the scrolls, but I feel the text on the servitor and Inquisitor Bob isn't as good as say Grimdarkus.

Think you've cracked it with karamazov and his EZ-Boy recliner, just some splatter, text and a corpse - that'll do nicely

Sanctum still looking impressive, and are those some 54mm historicals I spy on the shelf?


It's all looking good bud, and progressing nicely - which is the main thing


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/21 09:25:04


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ gits - see below

 monkeytroll wrote:
Life lessons from graven: don't give mucus cups as farewel gifts, spend more attention on lady's inner thighs - these will serve you well young padawan....

Sister's turquoise is at the edge of fadyness (that is so a word, you just haven't come across it before), prsonally I think they're good as is, but Gits may have it with a more vibrant shadow (no fence sitting around here, oh no ).

Loving the colours on the scrolls, but I feel the text on the servitor and Inquisitor Bob isn't as good as say Grimdarkus.

Think you've cracked it with karamazov and his EZ-Boy recliner, just some splatter, text and a corpse - that'll do nicely

Sanctum still looking impressive, and are those some 54mm historicals I spy on the shelf?


It's all looking good bud, and progressing nicely - which is the main thing


What you're noticing with the scrolls is that servitor and bob are layer of grime behind Grimdarkus, so the text looks fresher. I think.

Thanks, glad Karamazov is approaching done-ness in your eyes! 54mm historicals? Nah I think that's 32mm Game of Thrones minis you're spying, or possibly the Helldorado figs on the shelf below.

So I've done a test shade of turquoise.
The colours used, over the same VJ turquoise that I've used on the SoBs left to right are:

Thraka Green
Asurmen Blue
Drakenhof Nightshade
Biel-Tan Green
Coelia Greenshade
Waywatcher Green
Gulliman Blue
Blue Ink (Citadel Classic)
Green Ink (Citadel Classic)
Blue Ink (Vallejo)
Green Ink (Vallejo)



That's a pretty accurate representation of how the colours look in RL. Your views are keenly sought!
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/21 09:46:58


Post by: monkeytroll


Ah, it'll be the Game of Thrones figs then, looked like they were bigger than 32mm

Favoured shades for me would be Gulliman, Drakenhof and Waywatcher, in that order. Seem to keep the faded look whilst still adding depth.

Having said that I can't gaurantee my eyes are fully awake yet


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2000/10/22 22:41:05


Post by: Gitsplitta


How about cutting one of the blue inks down by 50%? I ask because I think I said "vibrant shadows" and other than the Asurman Blue, I don't think any of those could be mistaken as vibrant. If you don't want to mess with this, I'd say Asurman or Drakenhof in that order.



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/21 19:48:52


Post by: inmygravenimage


Following your advice, my gut and Mrs G's independent view, I went with Drakenhof:

Lighting position was a bit off.

A close up on the turquoise:


And the scroll (love my micron pen!)


Base has some fairly low-key splatter and now just needs its Alpha Legion corpse!

Thoughts on the shading? Hey ho,
graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/21 21:54:51


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Wow, i think this is the first time (apart from earlier in this same thread) that i actually like the Karazamov model...beautiful work graven, the turquoise really pops out!

Also, im loving how many 'streamers' are on him


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/21 23:46:24


Post by: Gitsplitta


That did the trick graven... very nice. More depth to it now which I like. So cool that you actually wrote on the scroll.



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 13:26:18


Post by: eldartau1987


I agree with Gits.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 16:28:51


Post by: inmygravenimage


Revenent Reiko wrote:Wow, i think this is the first time (apart from earlier in this same thread) that i actually like the Karazamov model...beautiful work graven, the turquoise really pops out!

Also, im loving how many 'streamers' are on him

He's a hard one to love, and is a bit of a glorified maypole. Having said that, I feel there's potential to convert a really interesting GK Ven Dread out of that kit!

Gitsplitta wrote:That did the trick graven... very nice. More depth to it now which I like. So cool that you actually wrote on the scroll.


The nightshade has worked a treat, I agree. The writing was a gamble, I think it's paid off! I have hellish handwriting but I'm quite pleased with the blocky gothic script. Expect more of that!

eldartau1987 wrote:I agree with Gits.

On the turquoise or the text? Thanks either way!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 16:44:46


Post by: Reaper Man 2020


Loving the sanctum Graven! How about the Fonz for the Inquisitor? Or Fonzicus?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 17:25:31


Post by: eldartau1987


With both! He can look so plain but you did a good job of adding depth.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 18:16:12


Post by: inmygravenimage


I was actually thinking Girreaux (fluff reference...)
Here's a further wip and a clue:


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 18:20:59


Post by: monkeytroll


The added drakenhof works a treat Spidery, atrocious handwriting is great for the grimdark font


And is that a Emp Child termie we spy, getting ready to recline decadently on some dude's base?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/22 23:48:59


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
Revenent Reiko wrote:Wow, i think this is the first time (apart from earlier in this same thread) that i actually like the Karazamov model...beautiful work graven, the turquoise really pops out!

Also, im loving how many 'streamers' are on him

He's a hard one to love, and is a bit of a glorified maypole. Having said that, I feel there's potential to convert a really interesting GK Ven Dread out of that kit!


Agreed, thats always been my issue with him to be honest (that all they did for such a cool character is cut off the top of a dread and put a toilet on it....), a Ven Dread (like a reverse conversion...) has some awesome potential!

But well done on him, he looks great the way youve done it.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/23 21:30:06


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ mt:
Indeed!


The nightshade is a dream on the cloth, and very pleased with it. Here's a quick photo grab:

Had a nightmarish phone death situation, so am wayyyyy behind on dakka. That, and cake has once again taken over my home life. Still, I have a neat RL situation possibly opening up, which basically involves getting proper support from above in work.


Reiko - walking toilet a-go-go!
Karamazov is pretty much done, I think:


He now has his alpha legion corpse, although I think the flesh is a little too rotten:

I spy a mould line under the arm actually, so retouching the skin tones not a major.

And some details:



Hey Ho, more updates to follow anon, assuming I can get a wiggle on!
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/01/23 02:49:05


Post by: eldartau1987


When you say phone death, do you mean a cell phone or phones at work?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/23 22:15:27


Post by: inmygravenimage


My 3GS does not like the new iOS, especially when idiotic device tries to connect to wife's iTunes which is synced to her iPad running previous iOS. Hence, cellphonesplosion. Return of middleagedrage...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 13:14:16


Post by: inmygravenimage


Mini update! Phone functional - ish - and got my work thing (3 days of proper media studies training), so am a happy camper. Huzzah!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 13:37:04


Post by: eldartau1987


Victory!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 14:36:43


Post by: inmygravenimage


^ Victory is life!

Btw I've just noticed that the sanctum's khornate corpse has crawled into the shot with the EC. Huh.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 14:44:46


Post by: Briancj


As someone who did the conversion (and has the parts to do it again), I can assure you that it makes an EPIC Ven Dread conversion.

Also, I still <3 that tri-barreled multi-melta. Only one in existence!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 14:55:07


Post by: Gitsplitta


Those are looking spectacular graven. I do feel the shiny base rims detract from them though (perhaps "distract" is a better word). Is there a specific reason you do them that way?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 16:24:50


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Aww yeah ,thats what im talking about graven! Great work on the whole lot (especially 'im taking the paper with me, i want to read the funnies' Karazamov!)

Briancj has called you out now graven, the only thing left to do is ask him what parts he used and get on it!



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 16:42:29


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ Briancj: oh really... I should both like to see that and see of I can convince you to part with them for an undisclosed fee!

@ gits: thanks mate! I used to make my bases blend into the rim colour, but that looks odd when not playing on an uram board. I like it myself, adds a sense of display to them. Each to their own though.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
@ Reiko: thanks mate. Yeah, so tempted to do a Karamazov on the kazi vignette!
Do indeed tell, Briancj, what did you use?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 17:11:00


Post by: Revenent Reiko


 inmygravenimage wrote:
@ Reiko: thanks mate. Yeah, so tempted to do a Karamazov on the kazi vignette!
Do indeed tell, Briancj, what did you use?

something along the lines of:

?

Do it!!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 17:17:21


Post by: Briancj


Sadly, I only have the one, bad, picture.



Used parts from the throne, a 54mm Inquisitor sword, and some scrolls.

Alas, I cannot sell you the parts, because I want to do this conversion again, with everything I've learned in the 10 years that have passed since I built this one.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/24 17:43:22


Post by: inmygravenimage


That seems reasonable very cool concept though. Great for a cc Ven dread
And yes, I was thinking infamous toilet marine.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/25 15:48:04


Post by: Yggdrasil


Hey Sam, it's been a while since I last came here...

Some great progress !!!

Sanctum looks promising, and the blue/bone colour scheme is striking !

Special for "Grimdarkius" !!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/26 21:59:33


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks mate, and just for you, I'll start with him:


He's grim, if not especially dark Gawd, love that model.

His partner in anti-crime, Inquisitor Girreaux:



Burn the witch...


The yellow glaze is seriously impressive, btw.


Riff-raff...

And the various Sororitas. Possibly, I'm thinking, the Sisters of Sorrow.


Really think that reverse shows the nightshade off well.





Honestly, I went and hand shade all those melta and flamer barrel recesses. Dunno what's happened with the pics...



Liking the lenses...


Not so sure about the hair...


Facially, this one reminds me of Gaiman's Dream.


This one gives a reasonable shot of how I did the scopes. still wonder if I should've, or still should, dark gem them.


There's always one with a mucky thigh

Anyway, pretty much out of my cake-related funk, which has nothing to do with excessive quantities of chocolate cake with raspberry frosting, nooooooooo...

What next, I wonder? Well, my garage is functional, but the really requires the wife and I to spend the weekend reorganising, and there's more cake afoot *sigh* Back to GKs, possibly, and killing chaos. I have to say the SoB have been a delightful diversion, however. Sanctum still needs finished, of course. However, I think a push on the GKs is in order, the dreads though after our above conversation about the mighty ambulatory toilet. Also, It turns out I have all the bits I would want to use for converting Karamazov (bar Karamazov himself, that is) into a cc dreadnought. That way madness lies, I suspect.

I also hope to get some primer, and washes, on my Welshmen. I'm having a game of SAGA on the 24th, and despite this being the worst, most hectic part of the teaching year, I'm feeling positive.

Hey ho y'all,
graven.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/26 22:42:13


Post by: Gitsplitta


Busy boy... (they look great graven, nicely done!)


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/27 00:14:20


Post by: Yggdrasil


Lolwut, I just noticed the Chaos backpack on Grimdarkius

Actually, though I'm not fond of the technique myself, I kinda like the "dusty" look that drybrushing gives your models... It fits pretty well, almost like living statues of marble valour & stone fortitude...



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/27 12:13:24


Post by: Dr H


SoB look great. Nicely done. Nuff said...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/27 16:53:30


Post by: evildrcheese


Really liking the SOBs, especially some of the weapon swaps you've done. I keep meaning to do something with all my Storm Bolters SOB models...

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/28 12:27:03


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks guys!
Yggs, yeah, why not eh? Hereticus walk that line...
And, yay, new visitors! Enter at your peril

Started on the gk dreads today, just blocking in colours:

Rifleman

And its corpse-to-be


Cc Dread 1


And 2:


Roll on golds, and then can start on inks and beyond.

Adios, roll on work week from hell,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/28 15:44:57


Post by: Gitsplitta


Ah yes... what we call in football vernacular... "bad match-ups". AV12 dreads and guys who's weapons can't penetrate AV12.

"Lightening claw THIS you puny heretic!"



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/28 19:43:57


Post by: inmygravenimage


Pretty much although I think I shall switch the EC and the Claws of Lorek termies.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/29 01:16:34


Post by: LeadLegion


How you manage to juggle kids, wife, painting and teaching I'll never know. You're prolific.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/29 13:45:36


Post by: eldartau1987


Rock on dude! I hope your week at work is not all that bad. I know mine has the potential to be crazy with this hurricane!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/29 17:01:02


Post by: inmygravenimage


@leadlegion: little and often. 10 mins here and there stack up! It's been a case of developing a style that works for me that is simultaneously self-contained!

@eldartau: stay safe buddy! Did lots of cooking last night so that helps me stay ahead big time: only need to prep tomorrow's dinner, but that's easy. 11 hr day today though :( parents' nights are torture; who says teachers are workshy?!

Itching to get on with the dreads. May also have dug out all the parts for converting Karamazov again - I think nemesis daemon hammer on a furioso halberd mount could work?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/30 21:28:28


Post by: inmygravenimage


Some shots of where I am with these guys. I don't want to spend too much time on them, oddly - they're a bit of light relief, and should stay thus, I reckon.


Oracles of Tzeentch are tricky to offset against the gk colour schemes as the red and gold are there. So, trying to make it start to pop.



I love the FW dreads but I think I'm going to have to black wash the purity seals first; sepia just hasn't picked it up.



Need to get on with the bases. Still, progress. Very crazy work time but it's worth trying to preserve a little sanity, eh?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/30 21:38:56


Post by: Gitsplitta


Very nice graven... excellent work.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/30 21:39:21


Post by: Revenent Reiko


O yeah, this is what you come out with for 'light relief'......bastard....

Looking good graven, and loving the new avatar!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/31 20:11:34


Post by: Knightley


Lovin' the dreads mate!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/31 21:42:34


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks for the kind words gang!


Not sure what chapter to do the helm. I was thinking weepers, but maybe not. Perhaps once his corpse is sorted I'll have a better idea.


Bit over-exposed. Lamp finally lost to the warp. My lovely wife is however thinking of getting me a daylight lamp for Xmas, huzzah!



Lovely model. Very pleased how the psycannon conversion worked.

Might move onto raiders next...
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/31 21:59:45


Post by: eldartau1987


Good job! These are great!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/31 22:18:32


Post by: GiraffeX


The dreads are looking excellent Graven.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/10/31 23:00:25


Post by: Revenent Reiko


*groans in pleasure* holy crap graven, the jade CCWs on those Dreads.....!! *drools*


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/01 00:02:43


Post by: Gitsplitta


I really love the red on the dead marine's shoulder pad. You should do all your red that way.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/01 12:39:14


Post by: Solar_lion


Very sweet looking Dreads. I like the force weapon look on the dread Libby. People use green for Plasma weapons but not often used for PW.. odd.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/01 19:59:55


Post by: evildrcheese


Wicked dreads. Really like the double autocannon one.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/02 21:16:25


Post by: inmygravenimage


eldartau1987 wrote:Good job! These are great!


GiraffeX wrote:The dreads are looking excellent Graven.


evildrcheese wrote:Wicked dreads. Really like the double autocannon one.

D


Thanks guys! I barely managed to escape GW without another Karamazov today... And I can't deny I'm also thinking about how to do a 3rd tlac.

Revenent Reiko wrote:*groans in pleasure* holy crap graven, the jade CCWs on those Dreads.....!! *drools*


Solar_lion wrote:Very sweet looking Dreads. I like the force weapon look on the dread Libby. People use green for Plasma weapons but not often used for PW.. odd.


I wanted something really different for the nemesis weapons. It's a very simple but effective technique I think. VMC Dark Green is wonderful stuff. Thanks guys for the kind words! I wonder whether to continue it on some weepers - I have probably enough bits to do a test fig for possible Death Company. Alternatively, I wonder whether to do it as the armour for DC Weepers (marble reversed as obsidian - sound ok?)

Gitsplitta wrote:I really love the red on the dead marine's shoulder pad. You should do all your red that way.

Ah, that's my test for csm red! Shaded with nightshade and highlighted with reaper desert yellow.

Nothing more to show but your thoughts on my DC musings much appreciated!
graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/03 11:28:08


Post by: LeadLegion


Graven, your idea of light relief is a major project where anyone else is concerned.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/04 20:38:53


Post by: inmygravenimage


@leadlegion: Ha, too true buddy.

Not much to report, and rubbishy pics alas.

Decided to go smurf on the base helmet of the Psyfleman:

I don't the EC's going to make the cut: just makes it all look a bit cluttered. Don't fear, I'm sure I'll find a home for him.

Been bringing up the golds on the Oracle of Tzeentch:


And working on armour for Claws of Lorek termie (disregard his skin tone!)

Still needs his mortal wound detailed, too. Bit the bullet and didn't silver trim, instead went with the stripe colour - I really like it but, as ever, c&c sought!

Also, garage now reassembled, although weather's not really conducive to ab priming. Might have to break out the cans. I think I'm going to do a chaplain as a test for the obsidian armour and see how it goes. I also dug out my other retinue folk so I can keep moving forward there.

Last query. What geek present should I request of the wife this Yule? Any thoughts?

Hey Ho troops,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/04 21:49:40


Post by: Gitsplitta


Nice work on the corpses mate!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/05 22:25:11


Post by: inmygravenimage


Thanks buddy

Strange day. Power out at my kid's school = much juggling of work & wife. Odd.

Right, where we were? Ah yes, tidying up the dreadsetc:

The first cc dread, the mk iv, with claws of Lorek corpse (aka solar_lion)

I took some advice (well, tried to) from gits and went with much stronger contrasts in the flesh tones.


I do love that a/c conversion, so tool an extra shot for bragging rights.

And t'other one:

Still not 100% happy. Think it looks a bit scrappy and lacking in contrast. Ah well.


I do like pose of the corpse, however. Also, using silver to highlight the gold seemed positive.

And a comparison:



Onto the Psyfleman:



Servitor, now with basing. For variety, he's in situ on the near-finished shrine:


And a test figure for the jade-obsidian on a whole marine (!) that I had kicking about. I'm not going to give my view on it just yet, I'm keen to hear yours...


Until anon,
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/05 22:32:28


Post by: eldartau1987


Nice dreads man! I hope that when I grow up (out of my mid twenties) that I can juggle all of this stuff as well as you do!

Dreads look good but the corpses are not as dyanmic and it pulls a lot out of the model. I am not an experienced enough painter to tell you how to fix it though.

I enjoy the jade marine but I feel it should be a little brighter.

I hope this helps.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/05 22:52:48


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's amazing looking jade, but my comments on your weeping angels stand. Make say, the armor plate the jade color... bot everything else (edging, decorations, cloth, etc) need to be done on a normal technique so that it really sets the jade off as something special.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/05 23:09:47


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Oooo more shinies! great work graven, loving the jade test model, but i would agree with Gits. Maybe just with the equipment as opposed to bits of the armour, so grenades, weapons etc, and maybe the cables as well...? But even saying that the test has come out really well and i like the look even without any highlights/other colours...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/05 23:35:18


Post by: Solar_lion


 Gitsplitta wrote:
That's amazing looking jade, but my comments on your weeping angels stand. Make say, the armor plate the jade color... bot everything else (edging, decorations, cloth, etc) need to be done on a normal technique so that it really sets the jade off as something special.


Agreed .. the armor itself would look awesme that way. but the attachments and decorations should be pure. This way it defines the armor being the jade effect.



Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 08:12:59


Post by: inmygravenimage


Well, you've thrown me with your comments chaps, cos I really wasn't convinced I liked it!
@et - well, each to their own. I suppose that perhaps the muted tones could Pop more though, I'll have a think.

And as for the rest of you... Many, many thanks on the positivity - and here it is with other colours blocked in (apart from yellow on knee wreath). No highlights yet.

Phone pic, but still. My original plan had been a much blacker base, and less obvious green - more obsidian than jade. Still, moving towards this.
Thoughts y'all?
Graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 11:24:44


Post by: Gitsplitta


Are you using a similar technique to do the other colors as you are the jade?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 12:49:36


Post by: inmygravenimage


Nope. Jade was a glaze over the base. Turq isn't that shiny, it was just still wet!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 13:02:29


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Thats almost exactly what i meant (now that i know the Turq isnt that shiny in real life ), nice work graven, looking good!

The armour really reminds me of Malachite rather than Jade now that its lighter, i approve of this

ala:


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 15:14:29


Post by: eldartau1987


I like the jade now! That is pretty cool!

I did not mean to sound negative! I apologize if I did.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 18:36:08


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ Reiko - I like
@ et - no offence taken, don't be daft.

Further work on Br. Malakaite
Some highlights:


I'm starting to quite like him - but he doesn't scream Death Company at me.

This chap, however...

We shall see. Apologies for rubbishy phone pics btw.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 18:47:39


Post by: Dr H


That jade effect is very good.
You say it was a glaze over a base, what was the base colour?
and how are you highlighting him, dry brush?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 19:05:03


Post by: eldartau1987


Oh good!

That is a cool Chappy! I also like the Jade Marine. The intention is Death Company for that color scheme? That is pretty interesting!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 19:20:45


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's getting there...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 22:10:30


Post by: monkeytroll


Wow, loads of stuff missed.

Sisters were looking fine....Morpheus in the Grimdark? Don't whisper it too loud lest Dark Horse get any ideas..

Err,, the next thing you showed looked really nice too Wonderful in fact

There were some dreads - they were very cool, fantastic looking blade on the CCW. Does that oracle of tzeentch have feth-off big wings coming of his helmet?

If so, excellent


Love the jade marine, that does look very nice.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 22:56:13


Post by: inmygravenimage


Dr H wrote:That jade effect is very good.
You say it was a glaze over a base, what was the base colour?
and how are you highlighting him, dry brush?

Base is simply black with a heavy drybrush of white. The jade is drybrushed highlights, the turq etc are wet blended. Proper pics anon.

eldartau1987 wrote:Oh good!

That is a cool Chappy! I also like the Jade Marine. The intention is Death Company for that color scheme? That is pretty interesting!

Weeping Angel Death Company. I thought it a nice opposite to their stone.

Gitsplitta wrote:That's getting there...

Ta!

monkeytroll wrote:Wow, loads of stuff missed.

Sisters were looking fine....Morpheus in the Grimdark? Don't whisper it too loud lest Dark Horse get any ideas..

Err,, the next thing you showed looked really nice too Wonderful in fact

There were some dreads - they were very cool, fantastic looking blade on the CCW. Does that oracle of tzeentch have feth-off big wings coming of his helmet?

If so, excellent


Love the jade marine, that does look very nice.

Thanks for the kind words mate. Your absence has been noted kidding, I go through dakka-voids. Glad you like the oracle's hat of destiny!

Here's a shot of where the chaplain is just now. This is closer to what I had intended originally.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 23:05:36


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Stop doing this to me graven, im going through keyboards like no tomorrow cos you keep making me drool!!

That looks amazing dude, now then, how ambitious are you feeling this evening....:

but then, i dont know what exact shade of green you are going for....


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 23:05:53


Post by: eldartau1987


Cool stuff man!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 23:12:54


Post by: inmygravenimage


@ reiko - calm yourself. Get a towel I like your obsidian pic - the aim would indeed be up to white at the very edges for that chipped look.

@eldartau - most kind sir!

So is this better than the jade? Or, is it at least more Death company than the jade?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 23:23:08


Post by: monkeytroll


Different to the jade

I like the idea of pale jade death company led by dark obsidian chaplain


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/06 23:30:35


Post by: nerdfest09


I like the Jade marine! looks great a bit shiny too! a jade marble effect would be sweet on the pads or greaves if you were up to it? actually he's one of your models i like the best so far!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/07 06:26:26


Post by: inmygravenimage


I'm glad you like, guys, and I can see your point. Funnily enough, I actually think this green would work well for my Mentor Legion (!)

Anyway, here's decent pics, so you can do a proper comparison:

Still a bit paler in pic than in truth.


Pretty accurate to actual colours.

So there we are!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/07 10:23:06


Post by: Revenent Reiko


Oddly enough, the second pic i posted is actually green marble as opposed to obsidian.....but glad you like it, i think highlighting it up to white in specific areas like that would look amazing!

Spoiler:
This is spiderweb obisian, and would also look really good i think...


i have my towel now looks like im going to need it!




Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/07 22:46:26


Post by: inmygravenimage


Best get the bucket then...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/07 22:47:49


Post by: Gitsplitta


Very nice graven. Like the way that scroll came out.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/07 22:49:24


Post by: inmygravenimage


Hopefully the drool bucket, not the puke bucket...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
@ gits - thanks! Ninja'd.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/08 00:11:25


Post by: Revenent Reiko


O yes, the (drool) bucket has seen much use now! (i feel i should have bought it dinner first..) Looking great graven!


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/08 20:41:31


Post by: inmygravenimage


^
Here's some better pics. I'm really happy with how this guy is going:


I'm actually considering White purity seals. I must be nuts.

And the reverse:



C&C&etc sought!
graven


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/08 20:56:22


Post by: evildrcheese


The jade armour is verrrrry nice.

D


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/08 21:27:45


Post by: Dr H


Agreed, very nice.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/08 21:36:49


Post by: LeadLegion


It's another incredible build Graven.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/08 21:40:21


Post by: monkeytroll


Sweet! Loving the look you've been giving your parchments, very nice. I concur on the white seals actually, it'll make a nice contrast againt the obsidian I think Nothing wrong with changing things up a bit now and then - they're extra-virgin purity seals

Are you keeping the skulls on the pack and knee obsidian, or going for a pale marble look with them?


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/09 08:18:14


Post by: inmygravenimage


evildrcheese wrote:The jade armour is verrrrry nice.

D


Dr H wrote:Agreed, very nice.


LeadLegion wrote:It's another incredible build Graven.


Thank y'all kindly!

monkeytroll wrote:Sweet! Loving the look you've been giving your parchments, very nice. I concur on the white seals actually, it'll make a nice contrast againt the obsidian I think Nothing wrong with changing things up a bit now and then - they're extra-virgin purity seals

Are you keeping the skulls on the pack and knee obsidian, or going for a pale marble look with them?


Yup, these seals are extra-pure I find myself dithering over the knee and pack skulls. I suppose they will add to the general chaplain-ness if whiter. I'm wondering if he looks too DA just now.
The scrolls are a return to using reaper desert yellow as a base, with an ogrun flesh wash. I might try writing on Roy's final speech from blade runner...


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/09 09:30:39


Post by: Coyote81


Love the work you do. Since you asked for C&C, the only comment I have for your latest model is that I feel those wings are dying for some color, I can just picture them in a white or make even a boltgun silver color. Something to set them off form the pack they're attached too. Take it or leave it, you do good and creative work.


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/09 09:39:38


Post by: Revenent Reiko


The giant skull on the back definitely needs to be some other colour (white/bone), otherwise there is very little contrast on the rear of the model (side note: i really like how the wings gleam in the light. I know its not usually something that is seen as a positive in photography, but it really makes it look even more like the precious stone look you are going for....)

Saying that, i would stay away from bright white (except on the purity seals) for such a large area....

And i wouldnt worry too much about being too close to DA, theres not nearly enough robes for that


Graven's Bloggit 4th October, prepare to Enter the Deadzone! @ 2012/11/09 17:18:36


Post by: eldartau1987


Cool stuff! The chappy looks great. Way to bring a new idea to the table and run with it!