I decided to build an Imperial Warlord Titan recently after having been inspired by the forgeworld release of the Reaver Earlier this year. What a challenge it would be. I am starting this thread to chronicle the project!

First I made some assumptions:

(1) Contstruct a "Modern" Warlord based on the current EPIC design (Not an imperator, Emperor or some other fiction)
(2) Construct the Warlord at a scale compatible with the forgeworld and 40k miniature/model lines
(3) Construct the Warlord from sturdy materials (not plasticard substructure, NO FOAMCORE, no Foam, no cardboard; Steel and Wood!)
(4) Design the piece with the following criteria
Sturdy Design (to withstand handling and or shipping and play)
Detail (Compatible/comparable to forgeworld pieces)
Configurable (weapon options change out)
Fixed Pose (not a poseable figure, no working joints)
Sectional (comes apart for painting/storage)
Movable weapons (moveable weapons if possible)
(5) Paint the model black, for any paintjob at projects end
(6) Keep a journal of the project for future reference and possible reproduction of the piece
(7) Base the models scale on something Empirical, not on a book descriptions or by feel.

With these set of criteria in mind I started a journal to do my work in and tried to answer the first questions of scale. How big should a 40k scale warlord be? My idea was to scale the warlord up from the proportions of the EPIC model, so if say, a 40k space marine was 6 times the size of the Epic equivalent, I would make the 40k warlord 6 times the size of the Epic Model.

I had seen a lot of warlords online and been very disapointed in the scales not apearing true, with some being the size of dining room chairs (way to big), or collections of plasticard about a foot high (way to small). I set out to try and scale the images I had seen of other titans. My initial impression was that typically I would manufacture a 5 up of an EPic Titan piece by piece because the scales of EPIC and 40K are typically known as 6mm and 28mm or 30mm respectively yielding a scale ratio of about 5, 6mmx5=30mm. For model scale.

I did some research on existing Titan sizes and got some surprising results:

Dimensions on the forgeworld titans were hard to come by from their images because they seldomn add anything else in the pics for scale. ? Therefore I had to make some educated calculations (guesses) on the size based on some results I extrapolated from the images I found at forgeworld of the warhound cockpit.



I used a baseline imagining what a 1 inch base would look like in proportion to the pilot, which let me do an entire comparisson scaling to get a number for the titan's height!



A warhound titan is ONLY about a foot tall? (Pretty rough for $600 USD and shipping IMO). I had always asumed that the forgewrold model was bigger than that. ? I wanted my titan to match with the Forgeowrld examples, especially if they were ever fielded together, so I decided to make sure my Warlord was taller than that regardless of the scale factor! Not hard for such a little Warhound, at the time I was thinking maybe 18 inches would look right. This brought me to the next point. How much taller was a Warlord than a Warhound anyway? I went looking on the web for more answers and found this:



1/3 taller? That would make my titan only about 12+4 inches or 16 inches. That just didnt seem right, so I did some other comparissons to see if the scale was actually 1:5 with some Leman Russes:




This analysis confirmed the 5 up theory I had. I eventually bought an EPIC Titan and decided to scale it up by a factor of 6 from the Epic Model just to make it a little bigger and ensure it was larger than the Warhound but not ridiculously so!

The Ratio was set at 1:6, Or every schematic I would do would be a caliper measurement multiplied by 6 and reproduced for the big warlord.

More to come!

While I applaud your efforts, there's been a variety of discussions on the difficulties of scaling Epic to 40k - I think most recently in discussions about building a Capitol Imperialis. Just sort of a "be wary".

You have put a lot of work into this

didn't FW classify their titans height in the catalogue / at photos in WD / maybe homepage?

Warhounds were told to be 10.5" / 250 mm.

Here are some scale photos, hope they help;











I included that last picture to illustrate my Warhound is modeled in a crouch/sprint....so the leg positioning definitely affects the height. The only other Warhound I've had him next to was taller by an inch or so...adjust accordingly.

WOW, thanks for the scale photos! Unbelievable, looks like my calculations were a little generous.

So am I correct in seeing that Titan is almost exactly 10 inches high?

Thanks again Age of Egos! Looks good also, good job!

Augustus wrote:WOW, thanks for the scale photos! Unbelievable, looks like my calculations were a little generous.

So am I correct in seeing that Titan is almost exactly 10 inches high?

Thanks again Age of Egos! Looks good also, good job!

Almost exactly 10, again however he's slightly crouching...so I would add an inch. You can see by the picture a majority of the Titan is legs (Cue the 'do those legs go all the way up' and 'should have painted him blonde' jokes)....the top chasis actually isn't very 'tall'. When I see homemade titans on forums...it always looks like people get caught up in the 'big everywhere' syndrome. That is to say, since the model is big all the parts must be as well. Warhound toes, the head, leg width, etc are all pieces that usually look too large to me (When comparing homemades to the FW item)

No problem on the pics, I had him out to adjust one of his feet anyways. Good luck!

AgeOfEgos wrote:...When I see homemade titans on forums...it always looks like people get caught up in the 'big everywhere' syndrome. That is to say, since the model is big all the parts must be as well. Warhound toes, the head, leg width, etc are all pieces that usually look too large to me (When comparing homemades to the FW item)

I hope to avoid such errors by directly scaling the dimensions and angles off of the EPIC model, and not guessing or re inventing the pieces. I am going to pretty much reproduce each piece of the leadt titan at 6 up, in exactly the same proportions.

One problem I have is I want to do more weapons for the titan and I don't know what they look like. If I recall then the default warlord has shoulder mounted turbo lasers, a Volcano CAnnons and a Gattling Blaster? I think I want to make a Plasma destroyer, a chainfist and shoulder mounted Multi Launchers.

By the way this is the Titan image I am using for the 6 up:

Have you got Apocalypse? The Warlord silhouette has a Warhound for scale, and the posts above have given you the dimensions for the Warhound. I think the Reaver is around 14 inches to the top of the missile launcher.

...I've just looked at the book, and if the Warhound is around 10-11 inches, the Warlord should be around 26-28 inches!!!

About time someone properly scaled their warlord. Most of them end up Imperator size, and often far bigger.

Now you want to make a Mk3 warlord, the current version.

It is in fact somewhat bigger than a Mk2 and a Mk1 Beetleback.

If you want to run your Titan with Armorcast titans I suggest building a Mk2, a Mk3 if you want to use Forgeworld titans.

This guy has got the scale incorrect at 32" height for a Mk3:

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2155

a warlord is twice not three times a Warhounds height, going by the miniatures, whuich is the ONLY consistent scale. I would be looking at approx 24".

The Apoc book has the Forgeworld Warhound matched to a Warlord - I'd say that's pretty consistent.
According to that, the Warlord is a bit over double height (26-28").

Ilmarinen wrote:The Apoc book has the Forgeworld Warhound matched to a Warlord - I'd say that's pretty consistent.
According to that, the Warlord is a bit over double height (26-28").

I would hazard that is pretty damn near the mark. Once again, just make sure the other items on the Titan are scaled, as with the size of the model...portions that are scaled incorrectly will be painfully obvious. Another pitfall I would mention is to make sure you measure the height with bends in the legs (however slight on a Warlord) in mind.

Any other pics for scale you might need let me know. As long as it doesn't involve deconstructing it, I won't mind measuring for you .

There's an article from Tim Dupertuis about the scale of Titans that was in an Inquisitor magazine a long time ago. He recommends 16" for a Warlord.

Death By Monkeys wrote:There's an article from Tim Dupertuis about the scale of Titans that was in an Inquisitor magazine a long time ago. He recommends 16" for a Warlord.

Is that to the carapace of a beetleback. The top of a Mk3 is much higher up.

Most of you have already done way more work on this than GW or FW has done, apparently.

Sad, isn't it?

Yes, Im starting construction soon. I will work from the ground up.

Feet first, I think building from the bottom up will work well as I will have the standy frame to set the rest on as I get it built!

*EDIT for image to huge, link is
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/dgauxiliary/Jourmnal2.jpg

I also liked this artwork I found for misile launchers on the web:

the current FW reaver is about 16" high so about 24" sounds good (half as big again). I agree, to many of these end up way too big.


I just checked my reaver and its 16" to the top of its launcher and my 'hound is 10".

I'll sort a pic of the two titans stood side my side.

man ya titan looks sweet as, now i want one.

BDA

Planning is looking top nothc. Please save all your measurements!

Wait a second, I was always told that size wasn't really an issue, as long as the recharge rate of the weapon systems was minimal......





I know, I know, BAD JediRaptor

Orlanth wrote:

Death By Monkeys wrote:There's an article from Tim Dupertuis about the scale of Titans that was in an Inquisitor magazine a long time ago. He recommends 16" for a Warlord.

Is that to the carapace of a beetleback. The top of a Mk3 is much higher up.

That's to the top of the carapace weapon on a beetleback. The original text of the article is as follows (from the files section of BWC Archives):

SO YOU WANT TO BUILD A TITAN: SCALE IN WARHAMMER 40,000

Just suppose we wanted to build a Warlord Titan in full 40K scale instead of

Epic scale. How tall would we make it? 10 inches? 15 inches? 20 inches? larger?



The scales in Space Marine run from about 1/250 for vehicles to about 1/350 for

Titans giving an average of 1/300, about the same scale as GHQ MicroArmor.



So what scale shall we make our Titan? The original Adeptus Titanicus rulebook

says Battle Titans (Reaver, Warlord) stand 60 to 80 feet tall. Where does this

80 feet measure to? top of the carapace? top of the carapace mounted weapons?

Assuming that 80 feet is the maximum height we will assume that the 80 feet

measures to the top of the carapace mounted weapons. A Warlord measures about

66mm to the top of its carapace mounted weapons. 80 divided by 66 is about 1.2

giving a scale for Epic Titans of 1mm =1.2 feet (Titans only, not vehicles).

Now let's see if we can figure out a scale for a Warlord.







The 40K ground scale of 1"= 2 Meters won't work because it is much foreshortened

to keep the shooting ranges workable on an average tabletop. This scale is a

little smaller than HO model railroad scale (1/87), making our 80 foot Titan

about 11" tall, obviously much too small.



Next we try the vehicle scale. The Rhino is essentially a modern U.S. M113

armored personnel carrier, running possibly a little larger because of the

hull-high track configuration. The Rhino scales out to very close to 1/48 scale

(1/4" = 1'-0"), a typical scale for model aircraft and some model vehicles. A

6' human figure in 1 /48th scale would be 1 1/2" high, considerably taller than

a Marine figure in Warhammer 40K. Our 80 foot Titan in 1/48th scale is 20" tall

with a carapace 14" wide-perhaps a little too large.



Next we try scaling to a Marine figure. Assuming a Marine to be 6'-3" tall (out

of his power armor) we get a scale of 1/60 (1"=5'-0"), making our Titan

approximately 16 inches tall. This looks pretty good and is our suggestion for a

Titan scale. I realize that some of the Titanicus artwork seems to indicate that

Titans are much larger than this, appearing in some drawings to be at least

2-300 feet high, but I think that this is artistic license or artists not

knowing exactly how big Titans are.



In 1/60th scale, 1 inch equals 5'-0", giving the following heights for various

Titans. To convert Titans from Epic to 40K scale, multiply the Epic measurement

times 6.1. For vehicles multiply the Epic measurement by 5.25.



Another way to do this is to measure the Titan part in millimeters, multiply by

1.2 to get the actual measurement in feet, then divide by 5 to get the

measurement in inches for 40K.



Warlord Top of carapace weapon 16"

Carapace 13"

Reaver Top of carapace weapon 13"

Carapace 11"

Warhound Carapace 9 1/8"

Eldar Phantom Head 17 1/4"

Fins 22 1/4"

Eldar Knights Top of head 7 1/2 - 9"

(standing)

Gargant Top of head 13 1/2"

Stomper Top of head 6"



Sixteen inches may not seem very big, but check out the picture of Mike Biasi's

40K scale Reaver, (built to 1/60th scale, 13" overall height) on the cover of

Inquisitor #2.



PS. We use 1/43-1/48th scale as our vehicle scale because 1/60 scale vehicles

just LOOK too small. Using the figure height scale of 1/60 (1" = 5'-0") the Land

Raider is over 16 feet high.In 1/48th scale the Land Raider is 13 feet high.

Compare these heights to the heights of a WWII Sherman and Panther at roughly 9

feet and an M1 Abrams at about the same height. That's an extra 4 - 7 feet of

target sticking up in the air, waiting to be shot at-not a very good design.



1/35th scale models make good heavy vehicles though!

The article calculates incorrectly.

1. You should NEVER base scale on the fluff or artwork as GW come out with figures without thinking. Marines are 8' tall - no they are not. For minis you have to take a mini first atitude. Warlord titans from some artwork are grossly overscale, especially the cover of Armageddon and some artwork in the comic titan. Some shots of titans make them appear hundreds of metres tall. IIRC there is some artwork of a warhound with rhinos in its wake. some of the rhinos are charging between its legs and barely
measure up to its toes.

2. If you use a man for scale youshould use a guardsman = 6' and not the highly disputed marine sizes.

3. Rhino s are underscaled compared to an M113, or any other APC for that matter.

4. If you calcultate by miniature scale then you need consistency with other titans above all. It is far easier to match titan to titan than titan to tank. Tank scales varied from edition to edition more widely than titans. It is also far easier to form a visual fererence for a titan by comparing to other titans. The trick is to match to the titans of the style depicted. i.e. Bettlebacks against Armorcast and Mk3's against Forgeworld.

Armorcast Mk1 Warhound c8-9" tall
Forgeworld Mk2 Warhound c10" tall
Armorcast Mk1 Reaver c14" tall
Forgeworld Mk2 Reaver c16" tall

16" to the top of the carapace of a beetleback would put the titan out of scale with an Armorcast Reaver, which is the same model titan. In effect it would be too small. If
you compare to Forgeworld models then the beetleback titan would be the same height as the Forgeworld Reaver.

Now 14" to top of carapace for a battleback is about right. Then the carapace will clear the carapace weapon of an Armorcast Reaver titan. add another four inches for the titans full height.

Total height of Mk1 'Beetleback' Warlord = c18"
Mk2 or Mk3 Warlord = c24"


There is a LOT of artistic licence in 40k, so if you want a massive titan go ahead, this is why many people make their 5' tall titans (or bigger!). But it wont really be a
consistent scale to the rest of 40k.

Why not just make a Warlord that is possible to use in a game of 40k. A 5' titan may be cool, but its not at all usable in a game...

My scratch built Warhound is just over 11", it's not that crouched. And the Revenant I'm currently building is gonna be 13" to the top of the fins. Great centerpieces, but not overly large or impractical to play with.

Azmo

I did a few days of work over the holiday weekend! I am pleased with the results. As I said before I decided to construct a 6 up of all the pieces in the curent EPIC Titan. (I think it is a mark 3?) I decided to start with the feet and legs and basically work up the titan!

Here are the feet and toes so far:

*Edit for image to huge, removed. Link is http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/dgauxiliary/Feet.jpg



Here are the beginings of the legs I did after that:





Coming along well! I expect the hip chunk to be a significant challenge because of the angle involved, and I still have more details to do on the feet and legs, but the big structure is completed!

lookin good mat, gunna keep track of this.

still love the imperator though

Thanks I'll have more work coming soon, I'm getting energized with good results on a ferw pieces, I can't wait to make the weapons!

nice work using wood and metal will make sure if some knocks it over it wont blow up.

My scratch built Warhound is just over 11", it's not that crouched. And the Revenant I'm currently building is gonna be 13" to the top of the fins. Great centerpieces, but not overly large or impractical to play with.

Azmo

That is a great point, as long as it looks good on the table, can actually fit on the table, and is large enough to give the impression that it could step on texas with one foot, is all you really need for a warlord.

Please note that the use of texas in the previous comment was in no way a slight to the lone star state...just a good state to use for scale purposes.

And Augustus, it is looking seriously SHARP man, the pics of the legs make me quake that others will follow in your footsteps, and they will be EVERYWHERE!!!

Course, given half a chance I will too!

Augustus,

Will the templates you're using to cut the wood be available when you're done?

JediRaptor wrote:And Augustus, it is looking seriously SHARP man, the pics of the legs make me quake that others will follow in your footsteps, and they will be EVERYWHERE!!!

Course, given half a chance I will too!

Thanks a lot, I'm Honored. I am considering making copies of my journal entries and mailing these "plans" to interested parties. I will say, one would have to have access to several woodshop tools and a wide variety of materials to reproduce the pieces I am making and familiarity with using them.

im thinking about making a warhound from wood, got plans for plasticard one, just isnt as stable.

Lormax wrote:Augustus, Will the templates you're using to cut the wood be available when you're done?

I'm not really making templates, like printable paper sheets, or computer files? I just have schematics and sketches in my journal and the imagery I am posting in this thread. ?

Well, I will make this promise, if, at the end of the project, anyone wants a copy of the notes and schematics in my journal I will photocopy it and send them one, if they IM me an address, as long as the shipping is under a buck or so.

As stated before I am using a fully equiped wood shop, so I expect this little adventure would require at a minimum a table saw, a jig saw, a bench mounted belt sander and a chop saw. Or possibly some equivalent hand tools like a miter box and saw, but yikes...

If there is more interest in the specifics of the carpentry, post as much and I will walk through the production steps of the pieces in question, and or help interested parties get started.

Thanks for the feedback!

More Leg Pics:







I am going to create the Armor for the legs next and attach the feet, then I will work on the hip component!

Im thinking of putting a steel pin in the hip so that it is really sturday, like a massive pin for a metal mini sort of.

Leg armor Scale ups:

Notes:



Images of the completed pieces:





Viola, these were pretty easy saw work, I added some plasticard to the fronts to replicate the look of the imperial armor on the titan. I also started some minor detailing by including imperial eagles on the leg armor where the epic titan has them too.

JD21290 wrote:im thinking about making a warhound from wood, got plans for plasticard one, just isnt as stable.

I dont think making something that size out of plasticard is structurally viable. Maybe as just a display piece, but not to withstand transport or play.

So... is there going to be a lot of brown or grey stuff involved soon? I'm following this, because it is just so ambitious, and it looks like you are going to pull it off great.

So, keep on keeping on.

I dont think making something that size out of plasticard is structurally viable. Maybe as just a display piece, but not to withstand transport or play.

after watching my friends plasticard reaver fall apart after he spent ages on it i would rather go for something with a solid construction.
but i sorted his titan out, filled it with expanding foam, it makes it a little heavier, but now its solid (i demonstrated by throwing it down my stairs lol) the look on his face was priceless, but it didnt break

note: it wasnt painted, if it was i wuldnt have done it as it may have damaged the paint lol

odinsgrandson wrote:So... is there going to be a lot of brown or grey stuff involved soon? I'm following this, because it is just so ambitious, and it looks like you are going to pull it off great.

So, keep on keeping on.

Yes, I am going to make a copy mold of an imperial eagle pin I have for the carapace when I get to it, stay tuned!

Augustus wrote:

Lormax wrote:Augustus, Will the templates you're using to cut the wood be available when you're done?

I'm not really making templates, like printable paper sheets, or computer files? I just have schematics and sketches in my journal and the imagery I am posting in this thread. ?

Well, I will make this promise, if, at the end of the project, anyone wants a copy of the notes and schematics in my journal I will photocopy it and send them one, if they IM me an address, as long as the shipping is under a buck or so.

As stated before I am using a fully equiped wood shop, so I expect this little adventure would require at a minimum a table saw, a jig saw, a bench mounted belt sander and a chop saw. Or possibly some equivalent hand tools like a miter box and saw, but yikes...

If there is more interest in the specifics of the carpentry, post as much and I will walk through the production steps of the pieces in question, and or help interested parties get started.

Thanks for the feedback!

I've got a scanner and Adobe Acrobat. We could just scan it and print it to PDF.

Also, I should be finished with the display board this weekend. I think I'll do a thread about it.

Damien, that warlord looks sexy and its not even complete, major props to you.

hows it comming on mate?

just trying to dig out a friends pic of his amazing warhound.
magnet fell of it and its turbo laser crushed his termies

did tell him it couldnt take the weight

JD21290 wrote:

I dont think making something that size out of plasticard is structurally viable. Maybe as just a display piece, but not to withstand transport or play.

after watching my friends plasticard reaver fall apart after he spent ages on it i would rather go for something with a solid construction.
but i sorted his titan out, filled it with expanding foam, it makes it a little heavier, but now its solid (i demonstrated by throwing it down my stairs lol) the look on his face was priceless, but it didnt break

note: it wasnt painted, if it was i wuldnt have done it as it may have damaged the paint lol

My Warhound is made from 0,5mm plasticard, but is quite sturdy. But it's glued with the kinda plastic glue that "welds" the seams, and not super glue.
Its been played with, and transported to friends. And it's very ligth...
To make a plasticard structure stronger, you can easily use all that exess sprue to reinforce it inside.

But hey, you are applying carpentry to this, and it looks great so far!!!

Azmo

azmo, i used poly. cement which melts it together lol, he has a tendancy to throw it about a bit, so certain parts have bent.
0.5 is a pain in the ass to cut angles from, but its worth the work for legs / body wheremore stability is needed.

I like how this is going.

JD21290 wrote:
after watching my friends plasticard reaver fall apart after he spent ages on it i would rather go for something with a solid construction.
but i sorted his titan out, filled it with expanding foam, it makes it a little heavier, but now its solid (i demonstrated by throwing it down my stairs lol) the look on his face was priceless, but it didnt break

You are an evil, evil man.

note: it wasnt painted, if it was i wuldnt have done it as it may have damaged the paint lol

Ok, that may take you down to one evil...

my titans were both built from card but I'm halfway through building another 'hound from foam core.

You are an evil, evil man.

i was poving how strong i made it

Ok, that may take you down to one evil...

all it did was scratch my wood flooring

Allright lads, updates finally, sorry I was busy at the LVGT! Here is the next batch of stuff!

Got the hip built with a steel pin through the center of the legs and a mounted bolt point for the upper torso! Attached the leg armor and feet and built the thigh pads too. Hope you like the progress!

EPIC yes? Some of my future shots I think will include a vehicle for scale at this point!

I want to start making guns soon, but alas, the torso/carapace is next!

Really Great Work!!!!

I do have one question though, and I think this is born of my own ignorance. What about the primer and texture of the paint when applied to wood? I am just wondering if the look/feel of the paint will be the same as if it were over plastic or metal.

Good point, there are some dangers when working with grain of wood.

A few points, most of the titan is MDF, Maximum Density Fiberboard, which doesn't have any grain, it is basically made from wood dust and resin so it is totally grain free, but the edges can be very porous.

Also, I intend to laminate the majority of the surfaces with plasticard, so that is wha shows, like the legs for example.

I am also going to double primer it, grey then black, so the first coat will seal the edges and such!

Stay tuned!

Great work, Augustus. The legs have been the weakest part of other Warlord builds on here, but yours are really well done.

looking great as allways mate, cant wait for the torso

Thank you, maybe when I get the carapace built It will start to look like something!

I have a plan to leave chunks out of the shoulders so I can slide in Rocket Launchers or Turbo Laser boxes (concept art shown previously in the post!)

nice!
getting some more GS and plasticard, then i get started on my giant squiggoth, standard model, but instead of legs it will have tracks, plenty of bioniks, a kill kannon or 2, and some boyz

What size MDF did you use?

Judging by the picks I would say 1/8th, but thats just a guess

The legs are 3/4 thick and the leg armor is 1/2 inch MDF.

WOOOOOOOW....need to get me some glasses then!


or some perspective...

keep up the good work but this thing has to be heavy as hell.

erm.........

i want one!

That's looking great! The shin armour seems a bit 'square'. I'd add a small inward angle piece similar to the outside leg but a lot thinner personally. It may balance it out. The Epic one is a great model but becuase of the size difference I think you may need a few extra bit's of armour here and there to get it looking spot on. Same princiapal as needing far more detail on a large model than a small one. That's part of the reason the plastics are made as three ups, so it's easier to sculpt and then shrink them. You're going the other way. Will be watching, at the moment it promises to be one of the best warlords I've ever seen, and to the scale that I'd like to see myself to boot! It's good to see 5' detailed ones but like was said earlier, they are impracticale and look a bit out of place in a game where other titans from FW?armoucast are in use.

Keep up the good work!

I've already PMed Augustus for photocopies of the schematics. I'll clean them up and convert them into PDF to get them out to people easier.

Allright, I built the carapce, I intentionally left out the blocks that will form the turbo lasers as I am going to build 2 different weapon options for the turbo lasers and missile launchers.

Lormax wrote:I've already PMed Augustus for photocopies of the schematics. I'll clean them up and convert them into PDF to get them out to people easier.

When I have it all together I will send him photovcopies then maybe we can get PDFS! Sweet!

BTW the bolts are for mounting the arms and the torso to the waist, the bolts are very strong so the eventualt titan will be liftable by the top half or even the arm probably. Though I am planning to build a base.

The way I achieve this sometimes is to drill a big hole then set a nut in the cavity and fill the space with plummers steel, a 2 part resin clay that hardens like concrete! Its a great connection technique!



You can see this technique in the beginings of the arms I have here, the bolts in these upper arms will go through the outside mounts in the carapace shown above!

Lormax wrote:I've already PMed Augustus for photocopies of the schematics. I'll clean them up and convert them into PDF to get them out to people easier.

We can bypass the photocopy part since I'm a IRL friend.

ConditionOfMan wrote:On 2008/09/04 00:20:22 I've got a scanner and Adobe Acrobat. We could just scan it and print it to PDF.

Also, I should be finished with the display board this weekend. I think I'll do a thread about it.

Still looking good, I do have a question however....

What does this thing weigh???

Will a 4x6 board on sawhorses hold it or is it going to treat the board like a piece of wet toilet paper??

Its not so bad yet, couldn't be 20lbs yet, definitely less. I dont have a scale.

???

...besides,

Gamers generally NEED MORE EXCERCISE!

Maybe I will call it the patented weight loss titan? Just play 1 apocalypse game a day and you are gauranteed to reach your target weight with my new patented weight loss titan, LOOSE WEIGHT DOING YOUR FAVORITE THING! GAMING!

Might be on to something!

?

Really inspiring stuff, I can't wait to see what you do with the weapons.

it's been a while since i checked up on your work great job Augustus can't wait to see it painted and everything

This is just amazing. Great work so far.

How much does it weigh so far?

So, when are you going to work on the Emporer clas titan? lol, can't wait to see the finished product bro.

I can live with 20lbs...so far...

And what is this notion of "out of shape" gamers???!!?!??!?

All gamers I know are in perfect shape...
(You know, I almost typed that with a straight face!)

Wow... that is fantastic. The sheer size and bulk come through very nicely I think. Partially because I have end tables that are less impressively built!

Very nice. My lead assembler has put together a number of titans and warhounds in his day and thinks your approach is well thought out. We'll both be watching to see how it goes and good luck!

My head hurts from reading the initial post...wow. Is someone an engineer in the real world? lol

Your legs look awesome, and the Titan parts look good too...(hyuck hyuck).

Nice work, looking forward to seeing more!

Ha ha , yes engineer in the real world, guilty, LOL. ALso I am a QA guy now, AND I use to be a shop forman, DOH.

and now, the glory of new parts, started the carapce details AND the shoulder mounts that fit into the cavities with the turbo laser and missile launcher bases! They are interchangeable!



*To wide for the forum, go see if you want!*
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/dgauxiliary/ShopulderScale.jpg



* EDIT, had some to gigundo images, took them out, more to come

Sorry if the image is to wide, making more stuff...

More Carapace, and FINALLY weapons!








* EDIT fun with images, yikes.

Wow, that's really great. You're really moving now!
Are those thumbtacks?

Really fantastic.

Very nice.

This is already the best Warlord I have seen being constructed.

I'm staying tuned.

Hey thanks!

@robrov21

The missiles are hobnails, well thats what I call them, they are tacks with a half sphere head.

dont forget warlords have like 40 heavy bolters

uh? really?

wow, so if the table surface breaks, does that count as an autowin for you? j/k...looks very impressive!

Very, very nice

Dammit, wanna plans.......NOW!!!

Augustus.....

I check each day to see what is new...and I am just getting more and more excited....That is just INCREDIBLE man

Thanks a lot, more coming this weekend!

Man.

You are AWESOME! keep going please!

complete and utter awsomeness. The shape is correct and in scale with other titans around at the moment FANTASTIC! It's big but useable, just what we want.

40 heavy bolters? Never heard that before....any evidence anywhere?

How about doing an imperator after this?

I noticed that you're using bolts for the weapons and thought you might be interested in this. For my foam core warlord, I am using air-hose quick connects to swap out the weapons. I'm not sure how they would hold up to the weight of your titan, but you may want to try it. Would make swapping the arms easier, and would also allow them to rotate.

Oh, yeah, excellent job by the way.

That's some pretty impressive bulk.

On to the head now?

Yes, the head!




and some more stuff

More head.

LOL

PS. I love belt sanders, best tool ever!

heh. more head. my best friend lost a finger on a belt sander XD

Looks fantasic btw

sphynx wrote:heh. more head. my best friend lost a finger on a belt sander XD

Yikes

Weee, my daily treat of seeing more done on this project! The head looks great.

What's left to do? I'm not all that familiar with Titans other than pics in White Dwarf.

Weeeeee.... give us more head!

Looks great. Keep up the great work and let us know when the plans are ready.

ender502

Nice looking titan! Keep going man!

Not enough head! (never is).

Looking good.

How far are you from painting?

Man I've been following this log and its sweet...

Looks like hes already got it painted and up for sale...but why!?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=250296698968

Its...its..a...warlord!

I wondered when I would get to see a 'real' one. Very speedy quality job.

Is the head mounted heavy bolter there to stay, or just a plasticine mounted joke for the picture. While the heavy bolters are normally missing from the models old fluff tells us that the princeps would have a heavy bolter mount as his personal weapon, though this was a throwback to the time when every weapon had an individual moderatus gunner and the princeps was little nmore than a manager.

da_angry_ork wrote:
Looks like hes already got it painted and up for sale...but why!?!?!?!

Obviously the plan all along:

"This guy is just enormous and has been lovingly crafted by a proffesional prop builder. I've simply run out of room to support this beast, my loss is your gain."

Auction tries to make out its a collection piece being sold, not a made for ebay piece. Pushes the price this way.

A tear drops from my eye. You built it for sale. It's too beautiful for money though! oh well, it's all for the dollar and the man in the end. That's how the emperor truly rules.

I'f I had a grand sitting around I'd be bidding for this... And I could even fly to Melbourne, hire a car, pick it up, fly back to Brisbane and save on shipping.

Luck guy whoever ends up with this in their apocalypse games.

I've been missing out... Damn army sending me on courses, make me miss updates on forums...

Give templates or plans!!

Seriously: GREAT work!!!

Azmo

Hey Aug can you please post some painted close ups of dis beast before you sell him!

Been following this project for a while now And I have to say this is a great project indeed!

Never had the idea of building one titan purely out of wood but if you have the right tools it´s obviously possible! My congratulations on your very exact copy of the Epic Warlord mini and its proportions, Augustus!

Keep going! And keep us updated!

Wow, sold on ebay. As much as I'd like to say I'd keep my Titan creation, hard to resist that much coin.

Well, we have yet to see pics here, but the Ebay pics looked great. The color scheme was a little eclectic for my tastes, but thats just me.

great work, post some pics here when you get the chance please! Maybe treat us to some ultra close up exclusive pics.

Base, foot mount and carapace details:

More coming guns up next!

Chainfist:

Gatling Blaster:

Volcano Cannon:

Plasma Destroyer (based on the Space Marine Plasma Cannon ARtwork):

More Head!

Took off the heavy bolter turret I had befpore for asctetic concerns, and it did not match the artwork.

Turbo Lasers with Engine Screens:

TITAN MLRS:





Additional detail and swiveling rocket mounts! Back vents, diamond plate, side vents doors and laminate.

Scaled with Eldar of mine:

This is an earlier image, the guns started here were incomplete, the volcano cannon start at the right was scrapped for the one displayed before when I redid it!

With the rockets swapped instead!

Painted stuff and assembled pics coming soon!

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Son of a bitch!

Jaw attached to floor...

Giddy giddy giddy

Thanks a lot you guys, it has come out pretty well eh?

that looks great better than any warlord titan if seen (note this is the second warlord titan I've seen)

Awesome...

Awesome...

Awesome...

(continously repeating message)

Azmo

this is just cool.... wow you need to play with that in a game and post pics! (once its done of course)

VIOLA Built and primered, note the additionl back detail, variable weapon combos and 360 images, enjoy!

Holy crap! that is THE best Warlord Titan I have seen!

Capt K

Is that the top of a stool that you're using as a base? If so, awesome!

Looks quite epic and intimidating fully assembled and primed. Can't wait to see it painted up!

Ha, I suppose it looks that way. No it was a 20 inch wide piece of 3/4 inch MDF I bullnose routered.

Stool Sample? LOL

CaptKaruthors wrote:Holy crap! that is THE best Warlord Titan I have seen!

Capt K

Thank you very much! It was a labor of love!

These images will now be burned in my brain forever and will be my mental image whenever Warlord Titan is mentioned.

Good job.

Augustus wrote:Stool Sample? LOL

Maybe it's just a reminder that any who face this behemoth will be crapping their pants.

I don't mean to disregard your Warlord in any way, but those guard look great. Any hints on what colours you used for the basilisk camo? (I'm assuming it's yours).


Oh, and nice titan too.

Basilisk is a pretty old model of mine... From memory:

Drybrushed 3 stge vallejo base

Russian Uniform (?)
Yellow Grey (Panzer Yellow)
Dessert (Iraqi) Sand

The grey tigerstripe was airbrushed, I dont remember the grey, I think it was probably codex grey GW I diluted but it may have been vallejo, but hey, its dark grey.

Airbrushes rock!

and thank you!

That gave me a funny idea, maybe I should paint a really nice tech marine, and glue him to the base, and then enter the mini in the singles competition as a techmarine... Or play it in a 40 k game....

as a techmarine with a 2 foot base, Ha

or not...

Wow, that is simply amazing. And you definitely should enter it into competition.

da_angry_ork wrote:Man I've been following this log and its sweet...

Looks like hes already got it painted and up for sale...but why!?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=250296698968

Only 4.5 hours left and no bites. I wonder if it'll go at all.

ConditionOfMan wrote:

Only 4.5 hours left and no bites. I wonder if it'll go at all.

Its had a bid on it for over 4 days man.

I would bid, but with that many watchers I dont see a point, snipers will go crazy on it

Woops. I fail at the ebay. I was just looking at the price.

There had been a 910 bid the other day on it, but that one seems to have gone away.

I'm completely speechless, If I were getting a re-enlistment bonus I'd drop it on that in a heartbeat. Can you imagine the look on someones face when you put that on the table?

Since I know what the guy paid Augustus for it, I know that he took a loss. Especially considering he also painted it and put some pretty awesome terrain on the base. Oh and the cut that eBay takes too.

I am now saddened that this is the end of pics if it is gone, but looking forward to the plethora of Augustus Pattern Warlord Titans that will be cropping up soon

ConditionOfMan wrote:Since I know what the guy paid Augustus for it, I know that he took a loss. Especially considering he also painted it and put some pretty awesome terrain on the base. Oh and the cut that eBay takes too.

eBay cuts, yep a problem. But taking a loss. That I can hardly beleive, wood is not that expensive. sure a lot of time went into this, but likely that time was also a lot of fun. The second one will be quicker, and the third. After that you are not scratchbuilding but manufacturing.

think he means that the ebay seller wasnt augustus.
and that he paid augustus more than he got from the ebay sale.

I hope so anyway the material cost would be very low its ust very labour intensive.

Oh I see now, this thread is not retro, its very retro.

It looked to me Augustus was reviewing an old build, making it looks like a blog of a build in order to advertise a current eBay auction of the recently made piece.

While in fact he had already sold the piece and the current owner then had to sell it for reasons of his own.

I had wondered why the sale did not advertise the many interchangable weapons options this titan has, either there is a second titan around or the seller got clumsy.

Adding in all the options would have really boosted the value.

Good luck! With all your research and what the pics show, this should be a crazy cool Titan!

I wonder how much that thing weighed?
Can you buy these at Forge World yet?
This makes me think I should build a Apocalypse Class Imperial Ship, imagine bringing that to the table-top!!!

Well done!
I'm glad my orcs won't have to face that thing.

Indeed!

I did this as a comission piece.

I did not put it on eBay.

I have no comment on prices except that I can say this was over $200 in materials alone, AND was 13 8+ hour days.

Cheerio lads!