As is my way when collecting a new army, before ordering the first boxes, or even finalizing an army list, i like to focus on what drew me to the hobby in the first place: The background.

I've been working on this idea for a while now, taking inspiration from Gaunt's Ghosts mainly, and have been working it into a story-like history of the regiment i haven't got yet.

In my regiment's History, their home world was destroyed, I.E completely scoured of life, by the Necrons and they were rescued by an Inquisitor who was descended from the planetary Governor, and they now serve as her personal regiment, living on their ships and launching raids onto Necron Tomb worlds to give them a taste of their own medicine.

So my question is, can an Inquisitor have thousands of men, tanks, ships, under their command constantly? or would the rest of the Inquisition call her out on having so much power that could be spent in any number of wars across the galaxy?

...Considering Inquisitors can call down Exterminatus on any planet anywhere in the Galaxy at any time, Comandeer whole fleets for their needs, and take control of even a Space Marine Chapter if need be, then I don't see why they couldn't take up a Regiment for their needs. In fact there are recorded cases of this.

Just one question...

Would your Inquisitor be named Angelina Jolinatia or somesuch?

metallifan wrote:...Considering Inquisitors can call down Exterminatus on any planet anywhere in the Galaxy at any time, Comandeer whole fleets for their needs, and take control of even a Space Marine Chapter if need be, then I don't see why they couldn't take up a Regiment for their needs. In fact there are recorded cases of this.

Just one question...

Would your Inquisitor be named Angelina Jolinatia or somesuch?

lol

Tempting idea actually. if only for the face palming at games when i unveil her (With two bolt pistols and a high durability despite lack of adequate clothing.) I feel a conversion idea forming.

Edit: Perhaps an invulnerable save to represent her acrobatic skills?

Angelina whata?

Anyway, there are plenty of cases of Inquisitors secretly recruiting there own 'private army'. While it seems to be completely within the boundries of an inquisitors power, I believe it is slightly frowned upon by some.

There really is no problem with your fluff. She could easily be an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos. (Just use the other Ordos rules)

On the other hand, it's not like an inquisitor to be running a campaign. If they're attacking Necro-held worlds then the Inquistior MUST have some sort of mission/goal behind it, mabye researching their sites, or bodies of necro-lords?

I'm just saying that she wouldn't be attacking them for the sake of tactically hurting them. It would be more kind of studying for thier weakness.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Angelina whata?

The regiment is called the Ferosian Tomb Raiders. Naturally, their Inquisitor would be Angelina Jolinatia (A joke about Angelina Jolie/AKA Laura Croft )

On that note, don't forget to spend extra time sculpting the bewbies. They'll work well for distracting those opponents more on the nocturnal cave-dweller side of the human evolutionary scale, thus giving you the upper hand!

Emperors Faithful wrote:Angelina whata?

Anyway, there are plenty of cases of Inquisitors secretly recruiting there own 'private army'. While it seems to be completely within the boundries of an inquisitors power, I believe it is slightly frowned upon by some.

There really is no problem with your fluff. She could easily be an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos. (Just use the other Ordos rules)

On the other hand, it's not like an inquisitor to be running a campaign. If they're attacking Necro-held worlds then the Inquistior MUST have some sort of mission/goal behind it, mabye researching their sites, or bodies of necro-lords?

I'm just saying that she wouldn't be attacking them for the sake of tactically hurting them. It would be more kind of studying for thier weakness.

I see what you mean, she needs a better reason to justify her actions rather then "I just don't like Necrons, okay?"

That will be easy to incorporate, and has given me ideas for objective markers and such, thanks for the help guys.

You mean the fact that they're Necrons and they want to extinguish all life and feed the life energy of every living being to the C'Tan isn't enough motivation?

metallifan wrote:You mean the fact that they're Necrons and they want to extinguish all life and feed the life energy of every living being to the C'Tan isn't enough motivation?

Apparently not for the Inquisition, them Cyclone torpedoes are expensive.

Yea but that's why she's got a Regiment of worthless meatshields at her disposal. I think that Galaxy-wide Extinction and Genocide is inclination enough for an Inquisitor with a Regiment to go around pew-pew-ing Necron Tombs and then studying both the tombs and their inhabitants after the battle is over.

Heh,

"Right you conscripts, I need you to charge that huge squad of undying robots that can rip you apart with their bare hands, while i take notes, it's for science."

Lord Harrab wrote:Heh,

"Right you conscripts, I need you to charge that huge squad of undying robots that can rip you apart with their bare hands, while i take notes, it's for science."

Now you're thinking like an Inquisitor and/or Generic Lord Commander

metallifan wrote: (A joke about Angelina Jolie/AKA Laura Croft )

Why not just name the Inq Lady Croft and model it after any of the infinitely prettier, sexier, and more gifted models that they've hired to promote the games over the year?

I refuse to acknowledge that Angelina Jolie was ever Lara Croft, and I never even played the games.

Good idea, because the joke is the regiment's name and leader are obviously from the tomb raider games, whereas Angelina is just an actress and the reference could go over the heads of some people .

ill agree with plat here, mainly because i hate jolie
but lady croft also sounds better.

and your not missing much with the games

Lord Harrab wrote:As is my way when collecting a new army, before ordering the first boxes, or even finalizing an army list, i like to focus on what drew me to the hobby in the first place: The background.

I've been working on this idea for a while now, taking inspiration from Gaunt's Ghosts mainly, and have been working it into a story-like history of the regiment i haven't got yet.

In my regiment's History, their home world was destroyed, I.E completely scoured of life, by the Necrons and they were rescued by an Inquisitor who was descended from the planetary Governor, and they now serve as her personal regiment, living on their ships and launching raids onto Necron Tomb worlds to give them a taste of their own medicine.

So my question is, can an Inquisitor have thousands of men, tanks, ships, under their command constantly? or would the rest of the Inquisition call her out on having so much power that could be spent in any number of wars across the galaxy?

Ah, so the background got you hooked too. Same here. I just loved the idea of chain-axe/sword wielding psychopaths in heavy armor charging across the battlefield screaming "Blood for the Blood God' so appealing that I couldn't resist buying some Khorne Bersekers, World Eaters, and Kharn the Betrayer to start an army. Someday I will get them all painted. Similar reasons have motivated me to start a Tyranid army. I have some genestealers, termagaunts, hormagaunts, spinegaunts, a broodlord, and some warriors. I am shopping for a Carnifex and a Hive Tyrant. Whew. I have a lot of painting to do!

I think that is a good background, although I would question how a single Inquisitor was able to save a whole regiment without getting massacred by the Necrons in the process. Evacuating that many troops would take several hours, if not days, depending on how many transport craft were available. Do you have a model of this Lady Inquisitor?


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metallifan wrote:Yea but that's why she's got a Regiment of worthless meatshields at her disposal. I think that Galaxy-wide Extinction and Genocide is inclination enough for an Inquisitor with a Regiment to go around pew-pew-ing Necron Tombs and then studying both the tombs and their inhabitants after the battle is over.

How would you study them, though? Necrons, both still standing and blasted to bits, disappear after the battle is over. You'd first have to counter their teleportation in some way.

No Model yet, but I'm browsing though several model sites for bitz, while flicking through my daemon hunter's codex for gear i can equip her with, maybe two bolt pistols, (Counts as a single master-crafted one. possibly with psycannon bolts) and a power weapon, (To represent her skill at using pistols in close combat.) but anyway, once she's assembled I'll post pics up here for you guys to laugh at.


as for how she managed to save the regiment, I'm still working on that....

Lord Harrab wrote:No Model yet, but I'm browsing though several model sites for bitz, while flicking through my daemon hunter's codex for gear i can equip her with, maybe two bolt pistols, (Counts as a single master-crafted one. possibly with psycannon bolts) and a power weapon, (To represent her skill at using pistols in close combat.) but anyway, once she's assembled I'll post pics up here for you guys to laugh at.


as for how she managed to save the regiment, I'm still working on that....

I'll post pictures of Kharn's model and the sample World Eater I'm working on when I get done painting them. Then you can laugh at how stupid Kharn looks before he plants Gorechild in the Lady Inquisitor's head. Nothing personal, just blood for the Blood God.

Also, are you going to try to make the model look like your avatar?

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:No Model yet, but I'm browsing though several model sites for bitz, while flicking through my daemon hunter's codex for gear i can equip her with, maybe two bolt pistols, (Counts as a single master-crafted one. possibly with psycannon bolts) and a power weapon, (To represent her skill at using pistols in close combat.) but anyway, once she's assembled I'll post pics up here for you guys to laugh at.


as for how she managed to save the regiment, I'm still working on that....

I'll post pictures of Kharn's model and the sample World Eater I'm working on when I get done painting them. Then you can laugh at how stupid Kharn looks before he plants Gorechild in the Lady Inquisitor's head. Nothing personal, just blood for the Blood God.

Also, are you going to try to make the model look like your avatar?

But why would you waste such a pretty a skull like that?

My Avatar is actually a female Commissar i found on deviant art, (Love them ladies in uniform!) but her appearance goes a little too far way from the Lara Croft image I'm looking for.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:No Model yet, but I'm browsing though several model sites for bitz, while flicking through my daemon hunter's codex for gear i can equip her with, maybe two bolt pistols, (Counts as a single master-crafted one. possibly with psycannon bolts) and a power weapon, (To represent her skill at using pistols in close combat.) but anyway, once she's assembled I'll post pics up here for you guys to laugh at.


as for how she managed to save the regiment, I'm still working on that....

I'll post pictures of Kharn's model and the sample World Eater I'm working on when I get done painting them. Then you can laugh at how stupid Kharn looks before he plants Gorechild in the Lady Inquisitor's head. Nothing personal, just blood for the Blood God.

Also, are you going to try to make the model look like your avatar?

But why would you waste such a pretty a skull like that?

My Avatar is actually a female Commissar i found on deviant art, (Love them ladies in uniform!) but her appearance goes a little too far way from the Lara Croft image I'm looking for.

Because I am a firm believer in equal-opportunity slaughter. I will kill you no matter your race, gender, occupation, or species. It's all blood for the Blood God and skulls for the Skull Throne.

I'm sure your model will be gorgeous... until Kharn is through with her. Then she'll be missing a few minor things, like a head, limbs...

That female Commissar is pretty nice looking. The Caiphias Cain series confirms that they really exist as well.

As does the Tanith Ghosts. But apparently that one was a real b*tch.

Anyway, she could have been secretly researching some tombs or sumfink when the necron attack on the hab/town/city came without warning (remember, Necrons aren't widely known to most people) It looked pretty much over, but the IG used some very interesting and innovative tactics, impressing the inquisitor, while they managed to fight thier way clear.

Seeing the threat these machines posed, she inducted them for two reasons. 1) They had already proved themselves capable and experienced in fighting these kind of enemies.
2) Who the feth else was she able to choose?

Aren't there some 'robot fighters' rulez or sumfink, against the necrons?

Emperors Faithful wrote:As does the Tanith Ghosts. But apparently that one was a real b*tch.

Anyway, she could have been secretly researching some tombs or sumfink when the necron attack on the hab/town/city came without warning (remember, Necrons aren't widely known to most people) It looked pretty much over, but the IG used some very interesting and innovative tactics, impressing the inquisitor, while they managed to fight thier way clear.

Seeing the threat these machines posed, she inducted them for two reasons. 1) They had already proved themselves capable and experienced in fighting these kind of enemies.
2) Who the feth else was she able to choose?

Yet more great ideas, Thanks a lot.

Emperors Faithful wrote: Aren't there some 'robot fighters' rulez or sumfink, against the necrons?

i believe there were some in the necron codex, but only in the context of a campaign, i think they were veteran skills or something.

if only IG could still have doctrines.... xenos fighters FTW!


As for further background, I'm going to write it from the point of veiw of Lady Croft herself, in the form of personal log entries leading up to and including, her recruitment of the Ferosian regiment. it should be fun.




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Inquisitorial log: 2134726940.
Author Lady Jessica Croft, Ordos Xenos

Level Omega Clearance Required.

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Thought for the Day: Survival is no birthright, but a prize wrestled from an uncaring galaxy by forgotten Heroes.

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It seems rumors that another Black Crusade would soon strike the Cadian Gate were true. If my records are accurate, this has been the 13th the foul creatures of The Eye have sent against us, and although Cadia remains in Imperial hands, there is significant unrest and continued battles in the outlying systems, we of the Inquisition have much to do in the coming days, it seems.

But, Cadia will have to be the focus of others, I have received reports that Eldar have been spotted in the galactic south, their markings are consistent with those from Ulthwe, our unlikely allies during the war, but seeing them so far from their craftworld so soon is... odd. Could they have returned to their treacherous nature and are attacking Imperial worlds? I will take my dauntless-class cruiser Steed of Fury and investigate further.

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Inquisitorial log: 2134726941.
Author Lady Jessica Croft, Ordos Xenos

Level Omega Clearance Required.

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Thought for the day: An Open Mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.

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Emperor damn those slippery xenos snakes!
For the past year i have been chasing their shadows across imperial space, never gaining more than the briefest glimpse of their ships on our sensors before they vanish into nothing once more. Even recruiting local imperial ships to my command and attempting to trap them within the system failed, i must conclude that the Eldar Webway is more than a myth.

I have been able to learn something of their being here, however, the Eldar have been showing interest in several barren worlds in the Imperial sectors they invade, but my own visits to the surface have gleaned nothing but several Xenos structures fallen to ruin. i have never seen this style of architecture before and judging by the erosion and tests run by my staff, they predate even Humanity's birth on Holy Terra. Ordinarily i would send for the Deathwatch and conduct a more thorough investigation, but the fact the eldar are still running though imperial space unhindered curbs my curiosity for now. Perhaps i will find more structures on the next world they lead me to.

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Lord Harrab wrote:
As for further background, I'm going to write it from the point of veiw of Lady Croft herself, in the form of personal log entries leading up to and including, her recruitment of the Ferosian regiment. it should be fun.




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Inquisitorial log: 2134726940.
Author Lady Jessica Croft, Ordos Xenos

Level Omega Clearance Required.

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Thought for the Day: Survival is no birthright, but a prize wrestled from an uncaring galaxy by forgotten Heroes.

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It seems rumors that another Black Crusade would soon strike the Cadian Gate were true. If my records are accurate, this has been the 13th the foul creatures of The Eye have sent against us, and although Cadia remains in Imperial hands, there is significant unrest and continued battles in the outlying systems, we of the Inquisition have much to do in the coming days, it seems.

But, Cadia will have to be the focus of others, I have received reports that Eldar have been spotted in the galactic south, their markings are consistent with those from Ulthwe, our unlikely allies during the war, but seeing them so far from their craftworld so soon is... odd. Could they have returned to their treacherous nature and are attacking Imperial worlds? I will take my dauntless-class cruiser Steed of Fury and investigate further.

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Inquisitorial log: 2134726941.
Author Lady Jessica Croft, Ordos Xenos

Level Omega Clearance Required.

++++++++++++++++++++

Thought for the day: An Open Mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.

+++++++++++++++++++++

Emperor damn those slippery xenos snakes!
For the past year i have been chasing their shadows across imperial space, never gaining more than the briefest glimpse of their ships on our sensors before they vanish into nothing once more. Even recruiting local imperial ships to my command and attempting to trap them within the system failed, i must conclude that the Eldar Webway is more than a myth.

I have been able to learn something of their being here, however, the Eldar have been showing interest in several barren worlds in the Imperial sectors they invade, but my own visits to the surface have gleaned nothing but several Xenos structures fallen to ruin. i have never seen this style of architecture before and judging by the erosion and tests run by my staff, they predate even Humanity's birth on Holy Terra. Ordinarily i would send for the Deathwatch and conduct a more thorough investigation, but the fact the eldar are still running though imperial space unhindered curbs my curiosity for now. Perhaps i will find more structures on the next world they lead me to.

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Nice background. I like it. But why is an Inquisitor wasting her time chaisng a couple of elusive Eldar around? Not just yours, but I have often wondered about the focus on the Eldar by the Imperium in the general 40k universe? They're dealing with daemons, galaxy-eating bugs, a genetically-engineered war race trying to kill everything else just because it's there, and undead doom robots, each perfectly capable and willing to exterminate mankind. And yet they choose to waste precious time, material, and people chasing down the last of a dying race who really aren't that much of a threat to them, being pretty much the weakest power in the galaxy. Why isn't the Inquisitor fighting a more dangerous foe, like the Tyranids or Chaos? One that actually could destroy the Imperium?

Liking the fluffbits. Though I still think the name should be closer, for more epic facepalming results from opponents. Something like "Liara Croft" would register quite quick and generate a good laugh IMHO.

Other than that, I really like the start of it, and how she's kind of clueless as to the Necron presence, and then suddently they open up a can of 'HOLY FETHING S**T!' on her when she gets to Feros(ia(n))

For the model, might I suggest giving her two Laspistols/Autopistols/Boltpistols and dressing her in some Camo pants and a Tank top or T-shirt, and then just giving her like a big "=I=" pendant or something? Would give her the more utilitarian, tomb raiding, "progress over perfection" look you seem to be thinking of. Plus, going down that road will give you a lot of options for female minis from non-GW lines that you can use. Because most of the female minis that GW puts out make Ogryns look attractive O.o

And Deathbot, it's because they're Inquisitors, and all Eldar base are belong to them

metallifan wrote:
And Deathbot, it's because they're Inquisitors, and all Eldar base are belong to them

It's like aiming at the guy with a supersoaker in a gunfight when there are people with AK-47's and Uzi's firing at you.

Deathbot wrote:

metallifan wrote:
And Deathbot, it's because they're Inquisitors, and all Eldar base are belong to them

It's like aiming at the guy with a supersoaker in a gunfight when there are people with AK-47's and Uzi's firing at you.

Exactly! It's not that the Imperium -needs- to constantly attack the Eldar, they just do it because it's fun. It's like trying to score another goal when there's 2 minutes left in the game and you're winning by 5 points. It's completely unneccessary, it's a dick move, and it's totally unfair, but damn does it feel good

EDIT: That, and the Eldar have Eldrad. And he's just a Dick.

metallifan wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

metallifan wrote:
And Deathbot, it's because they're Inquisitors, and all Eldar base are belong to them

It's like aiming at the guy with a supersoaker in a gunfight when there are people with AK-47's and Uzi's firing at you.

Exactly! It's not that the Imperium -needs- to constantly attack the Eldar, they just do it because it's fun. It's like trying to score another goal when there's 2 minutes left in the game and you're winning by 5 points. It's completely unneccessary, it's a dick move, and it's totally unfair, but damn does it feel good

EDIT: That, and the Eldar have Eldrad. And he's just a Dick.

What I meant by that was that you are ignoring a huge threat to yourself just to attack someone that isn't.

Not anymore they don't.

Deathbot wrote:

metallifan wrote:
And Deathbot, it's because they're Inquisitors, and all Eldar base are belong to them

It's like aiming at the guy with a supersoaker in a gunfight when there are people with AK-47's and Uzi's firing at you.

Yeah, but that supersoaker could be filled with anthrax or something.

Best to wipe em out and ensure that they're no threat.

Like I said, unnecessary, unfair, and a dick move. Probably a waste of resources too. But that doesn't make it any less fun. Think of it as chasing a kitty around yelling "KITTYKITTYKITTYKITTYKITTY!" with your arms outstretched trying to grab it while there's a slobbering angry Rottie after you. Sure, you could stop to punch the Rottie in the nose, or jam your arm in there and flip it over, but after it took off, the kitty would be gone, and then you'd be bored again :(

metallifan wrote:Like I said, unnecessary, unfair, and a dick move. Probably a waste of resources too. But that doesn't make it any less fun. Think of it as chasing a kitty around yelling "KITTYKITTYKITTYKITTYKITTY!" with your arms outstretched trying to grab it while there's a slobbering angry Rottie after you. Sure, you could stop to punch the Rottie in the nose, or jam your arm in there and flip it over, but after it took off, the kitty would be gone, and then you'd be bored again :(

But then, while you are busy chasing the kitty, the rottie jumps on you an tears your throat out. And then you'd be dead. :(


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Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

metallifan wrote:
And Deathbot, it's because they're Inquisitors, and all Eldar base are belong to them

It's like aiming at the guy with a supersoaker in a gunfight when there are people with AK-47's and Uzi's firing at you.

Yeah, but that supersoaker could be filled with anthrax or something.

Best to wipe em out and ensure that they're no threat.

While the definite threats with automatic weapons pump you full of bullets?

I just found this on CoolMiniOrNot.com, my payers have been answered.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=1420

Lord Harrab wrote:I just found this on CoolMiniOrNot.com, my payers have been answered.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=1420

So that's gonna be your model? I presume you will be making some adjustments, correct? It's nice, but the face looks a little odd. Like she's high or something.

Yeah, the face seemed odd to me too, i may replace it with one from a wood elf or something.

First i need to GET some elves, oh the expense..

Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

EDIT: Wow! I really like the mini. Still needs some GRIMDARKIFICATION to make it distinctly 40K, but the base mini itself looks great. I really don't think the face is that bad to be honest. The thing with faces is that even just moving the position of the eyes can do wonders. I thought the new Cadian Medic face would terrible, but after I painted it and positioned the eyes differently from the E'M paintjob, it looked a LOT better.

I do think you should give her a Flak Jacket or something. Right now she just doesn't look very combat ready.

Lord Harrab wrote:Yeah, the face seemed odd to me too, i may replace it with one from a wood elf or something.

First i need to GET some elves, oh the expense..

Cheer up. My love for fluff has cost me a lot of money too, so you're not alone.

metallifan wrote:Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

I don't know what's scarier, the fact that you put so much thought into that, or that i understood it...

metallifan wrote:Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

My kitty hides under my bed if I try that. :(


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Lord Harrab wrote:

metallifan wrote:Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

I don't know what's scarier, the fact that you put so much thought into that, or that i understood it...

both.

Going back to the question of "Why is she playing silly buggers with the elder when there are more pressing problems?"

Lady Croft is Ordos Xenos, I see her as more of a scholar then warrior.,(Yet still experienced as both. she is an Inquisitor after all.) Investigating the various alien races, finding out what makes them tick, then sending that data on so that others can deal with them, working only with her staff as she investigates alien sites. Occasionally she'd call in the Deathwatch for precision strikes and artifact recovery.

Eldar are the ultimate mystery, their actions unreadable by humans, and even their language far beyond human gothic, and Lady croft can't resist trying to unravel their schemes.

That they then lead her to discover the Necrons( an even older and more mysterious race,) and a Loyal IG regiment that's experienced at fighting them is just a bonus.

Lord Harrab wrote:Going back to the question of "Why is she playing silly buggers with the elder when there are more pressing problems?"

Lady Croft is Ordos Xenos, I see her as more of a scholar then warrior.,(Yet still experienced as both. she is an Inquisitor after all.) Investigating the various alien races, finding out what makes them tick, then sending that data on so that others can deal with them, working only with her staff as she investigates alien sites. Occasionally she'd call in the Deathwatch for precision strikes and artifact recovery.

Eldar are the ultimate mystery, their actions unreadable by humans, and even their language far beyond human gothic, and Lady croft can't resist trying to unravel their schemes.

That they then lead her to discover the Necrons( an even older and more mysterious race,) and a Loyal IG regiment that's experienced at fighting them is just a bonus.

She discovered the Necrons? Does that mean that she is the first person in the Imperium to see them? If so, then this is set a few centuries back from the current time in 5th edition 40k.

The Necrons really aren't that mysterious, though. Their plan is simple and obvious: kill everything, everywhere. The Caiphus Cain series notes that the Imperium is well aware of that goal already.

hmm, you've given me something to think about. I haven't read those books myself yet.

and by her discovering the necrons, i mean it's the first time she's heard of or even seen them.


Edit: do any of you know how to read the imperial date thingy? what does 020.974.M41 mean?

Lord Harrab wrote:hmm, you've given me something to think about. I haven't read those books myself yet.

and by her discovering the necrons, i mean it's the first time she's heard of or even seen them.

I doubt that an Inquisitor of Ordo Xenos wouldn't have been taught about Necrons in the training program. Inquisitors are high-ranking enough to be told that sort of thing. Unless she really is the first to discover them for the Imperium. You could say that this is merely the first time she has actually met them, but an Inquisitor would have at least some knowledge of them. Just some tips.

Damn you deep and intoxicating fluff!!


Okay, hows this:


She's heard of necrons and their raids, but didn't connect them to the structures she's found. Only refrences to warriors and maybe scarabs.
but the huge and varied horde she encounters on Ferosia contains several rare Necron types not mentioned in her records, (perhaps even a C'tan?) hence the reforming on the regiment into "Necron hunters" and explaining why she's throwing so many men and machines at them, to see exactly what they're capable of for herself.

Lord Harrab wrote:Damn you deep and intoxicating fluff!!


Okay, hows this:


She's heard of necrons and their raids, but didn't connect them to the structures she's found. Only refrences to warriors and maybe scarabs.
but the huge and varied horde she encounters on Ferosia contains several rare Necron types not mentioned in her records, (perhaps even a C'tan?) hence the reforming on the regiment into "Necron hunters" and explaining why she's throwing so many men and machines at them, to see exactly what they're capable of for herself.

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

Deathbot wrote:

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

That throws a wrench in my plans, i really need to learn more about the Inquisition.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

That throws a wrench in my plans, i really need to learn more about the Inquisition.

I recommend The Lexicanum, a Warhammer 40k wiki. It has tons of info and I learned much of what I know from there in the few weeks since I started this.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

That throws a wrench in my plans, i really need to learn more about the Inquisition.

I recommend The Lexicanum, a Warhammer 40k wiki. It has tons of info and I learned much of what I know from there in the few weeks since I started this.

Awesome. Thanks for the link.

By the way, a C'tan might show up at the battle if there were some important artifact or large Necron army that they wanted to retrieve there. The Nightbringer is the most likely to show up, being more powerful and bloodthirsty than the Deceiver, who is more cunning and subtle.

Ok, lets leave Lady Croft behind for a bit and focus on the "Tomb Raiders" themselves.

The people of Ferosia were mining on one of the other planets in the system, which (surprise surprise) turned out to hold a massive tomb complex and they awoke a huge horde of nercons. (Perhaps the planet was a Necron storage and staging center for when they - as a race- wake up fully and really get down to the business of harvesting for their masters)

Awoken before their time, they start to slaughter the sectors inhabitants, the directive of the Tomb Lord in charge is "Kill everything" .

The Ferosians are driven back to their home world, then to the walls of their capital, having suffered massive casualties in both their civilian and IG populations, the defenders of the capital are a mix-mash survivors of several regiments, (Mechanized, Infantry, Armored, you get the idea.) having been formed not long ago for the purpose of reinforcing the Cadian gate , but faced with this new threat are confused and desperate, yet still magaging to hold the walls until Croft (with her fleet.) arrives in pursuit of the elder. (This impresses her, as she knows the power of the necrons due to her training and research, and she knows they wouldn't have had the same Intel.)

Croft, upon actually seeing the Necorns with her own eyes, makes the link with the structures she has recently encountered and what little she was taught, sees the destruction they have wrought already, and re-evaluates her priories.

" There are Necron tombs all over the galaxy, they can do this at any time, no world is safe. They must be wiped out. But i need more information on this enemy."


She travels to the surface, takes command of the forces left and offers air support from her fleet in orbit.

Then the big bad Nightbringer shows up, attracted by the death and fear, breaches the walls and is only driven back by the concentrated fire of three Baneblade tanks, but destroying one in the process. This convinces Croft that Ferosia cannot be held, and reluctant to let such promising fighters die needlessly, orders the surviving populous to evacuate, covered by both the reformed Ferosian First and the fleet above, they make their escape.

They become the "Tomb Raiders" shortly afterward, launching attacks on Necron Tombs in order to gather information on the enemy as much as to destroy the tomb itself.

Lord Harrab wrote:Ok, lets leave Lady Croft behind for a bit and focus on the "Tomb Raiders" themselves.

The people of Ferosia were mining on one of the other planets in the system, which (surprise surprise) turned out to hold a massive tomb complex and they awoke a huge horde of nercons. (Perhaps the planet was a Necron storage and staging center for when they - as a race- wake up fully and really get down to the business of harvesting for their masters)

Awoken before their time, they start to slaughter the sectors inhabitants, the directive of the Tomb Lord in charge is "Kill everything" .

The Ferosians are driven back to their home world, then to the walls of their capital, having suffered massive casualties in both their civilian and IG populations, the defenders of the capital are a mix-mash survivors of several regiments, (Mechanized, Infantry, Armored, you get the idea.) having been formed not long ago for the purpose of reinforcing the Cadian gate , but faced with this new threat are confused and desperate, yet still magaging to hold the walls until Croft (with her fleet.) arrives in pursuit of the elder. (This impresses her, as she knows the power of the necrons due to her training and research, and she knows they wouldn't have had the same Intel.)

Croft, upon actually seeing the Necorns with her own eyes, makes the link with the structures she has recently encountered and what little she was taught, sees the destruction they have wrought already, and re-evaluates her priories.

" There are Necron tombs all over the galaxy, they can do this at any time, no world is safe. They must be wiped out. But i need more information on this enemy."


She travels to the surface, takes command of the forces left and offers air support from her fleet in orbit.

Then the big bad Nightbringer shows up, attracted by the death and fear, breaches the walls and is only driven back by the concentrated fire of three Baneblade tanks, but destroying one in the process. This convinces Croft that Ferosia cannot be held, and reluctant to let such promising fighters die needlessly, orders the surviving populous to evacuate, covered by both the reformed Ferosian First and the fleet above, they make their escape.

They become the "Tomb Raiders" shortly afterward, launching attacks on Necron Tombs in order to gather information on the enemy as much as to destroy the tomb itself.

Again, pretty good, but it leaves a few things out. First, they still would have had to somehow keep the Necrons away for several hours to evacuate the surviving troopers. There would be no way to make this possible if the Nightbringer was still on the field. He'd keep coming back until they or he was dead. And if he dies, remember, his essence simply retreats to a tomb and another "living metal' body is constructed for him. Same thing with the Deceiver (who can shapeshift, by the way). So unless those tanks took him out, he'd have stopped the evacuation by killing everyone.

Would saying the Eldar helped be pushing it a bit too far?

I mean, I've read the Blood-raven's trilogy and judging by their actions in the later two books, their hatred for the necrons seems more so then that of Humanity, (the Blood Ravens even allied with them to explore one tomb to check if a certain Lord was still in stasis.)

Lord Harrab wrote:Would saying the Eldar helped be pushing it a bit too far?

I mean, I've read the Blood-raven's trilogy and judging by their actions in the later two books, their hatred for the necrons seems more so then that of Humanity, (the Blood Ravens even allied with them to explore one tomb to check if a certain Lord was still in stasis.)

Yes, they do hate the Necrons more. That's because, in the distant past, the Necrons were defeated by the Eldar, but almost exterminated them. I suppose the Eldar might have attacked the Necrons, but they still think of humans as nothing more than mindless, disposable pawns to be used in their schemes at best, and vile animals fit only for slaughter at worst. Any help they gave would ultimately have to fit into a greater plan of there's. Still, they might have helped so that they could manipulate the Inquisitor and her regiment in the future.

"Just as Planned."

Lord Harrab wrote:"Just as Planned."

Random Eldar: Farseer, why did we sacrifice Eldar lives to help the mon-keigh?

Farseer: Because if we didn't, 10,000 years from now an Avatar of Khaine would have tripped over a piece of ancient rubble from that battle and fallen on me.



Seriously though, you might find a way to incorporate the manipulations of the Eldar into the Inquisitor's story, post-battle.

Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Lord Harrab wrote:Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Well, bet of luck with that. I hope that someday I get to play you so I can have Kharn plant Gorechild in the Inquisitor's head/feed the Inquisitor to my Tyranids.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Well, bet of luck with that. I hope that someday I get to play you so I can have Kharn plant Gorechild in the Inquisitor's head/feed the Inquisitor to my Tyranids.

that would be awesome, but highly unlikely what with us living in different continents and all. but who knows? it might happen.

Now i just need my codex to arrive so i can form an army list.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Well, bet of luck with that. I hope that someday I get to play you so I can have Kharn plant Gorechild in the Inquisitor's head/feed the Inquisitor to my Tyranids.

that would be awesome, but highly unlikely what with us living in different continents and all. but who knows? it might happen.

Now i just need my codex to arrive so i can form an army list.

Maybe we'll wind up at a tournament together. Or perhaps I'll decide to take a vacation to New Zealand. Stranger things have happened.

Have you ordered anything but the codex yet? It might be good to order the model(s) that you want to make your Inquisitor out of asap. I've found out just how long international shipping can take, ordering from the UK.

I ordered the bitz for Croft as soon as i found them, and the codex was ordered a week or so back, (If memory serves) The rest will have to wait until the codexs arrives and i have an idea about what i want (and can legally have.) first.

Deathbot wrote:
Nice background. I like it. But why is an Inquisitor wasting her time chaisng a couple of elusive Eldar around? Not just yours, but I have often wondered about the focus on the Eldar by the Imperium in the general 40k universe? They're dealing with daemons, galaxy-eating bugs, a genetically-engineered war race trying to kill everything else just because it's there, and undead doom robots, each perfectly capable and willing to exterminate mankind. And yet they choose to waste precious time, material, and people chasing down the last of a dying race who really aren't that much of a threat to them, being pretty much the weakest power in the galaxy. Why isn't the Inquisitor fighting a more dangerous foe, like the Tyranids or Chaos? One that actually could destroy the Imperium?

Why chase Eldar over the others? Because when they're dying is when they're most dangerous. I'm pretty sure when the Eldar go down the Inquisition will be first on the scene to loot it's corpse.

Lord Harrab wrote:I ordered the bitz for Croft as soon as i found them, and the codex was ordered a week or so back, (If memory serves) The rest will have to wait until the codexs arrives and i have an idea about what i want (and can legally have.) first.

Some advice:

Tanks. Lots of tanks. You can never have too many.

Yep. MechCav or AirCav are your friends with IG. Make sure you stock up on either Tanks, or Valks and Vends. Should have enough for the vast majority of your army to ride in.

metallifan wrote:Yep. MechCav or AirCav are your friends with IG. Make sure you stock up on either Tanks, or Valks and Vends. Should have enough for the vast majority of your army to ride in.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:I ordered the bitz for Croft as soon as i found them, and the codex was ordered a week or so back, (If memory serves) The rest will have to wait until the codexs arrives and i have an idea about what i want (and can legally have.) first.

Some advice:

Tanks. Lots of tanks. You can never have too many.

I think tanks are the way to go, both for practicality and the army's theme. I.E an immobilized result will not result in a squad of guardsman hitting the ground at mach 4, and as most tombs are underground, having aircraft zooming about seems a bit silly.

I might have at lest one though, because the model is awesome.

Lord Harrab wrote:

metallifan wrote:Yep. MechCav or AirCav are your friends with IG. Make sure you stock up on either Tanks, or Valks and Vends. Should have enough for the vast majority of your army to ride in.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:I ordered the bitz for Croft as soon as i found them, and the codex was ordered a week or so back, (If memory serves) The rest will have to wait until the codexs arrives and i have an idea about what i want (and can legally have.) first.

Some advice:

Tanks. Lots of tanks. You can never have too many.

I think tanks are the way to go, both for practicality and the army's theme. I.E an immobilized result will not result in a squad of guardsman hitting the ground at mach 4, and as most tombs are underground, having aircraft zooming about seems a bit silly.

I might have at lest one though, because the model is awesome.

And expensive. Don't forget expensive.

Although that does bring up something I thought of. If any side in 40k ever tried to use planes comparable to modern day US Army ones, they could probably wipe out the opposing force with no trouble whatsoever. All the armies seem to just stand out in the open and shoot at/run screaming at each other. Or they could do it GRIMDARK style and just carpet bomb everything instead of using precision bombs. Either way, using air support like most modern armies do nowadays would be a huge advantage.

Or they could just be efficient and orbitally bonbaonbardle the piss out of the enemy and just shrug at the loss of a few thousand Guardsmen

I seem to remember a spin off game a long time ago that was Imperial Navy fighters vs Ork Fighta-bommas in a squadron-on-squadron airbattle. Did it actualy exisit, or did i dream it?

Back on topic, i suppose a pair of Valkyries with missile pods could re-create a strafing run, sort of clearing the DZ for Her ladyship and her men to deploy.

Lord Harrab wrote:I seem to remember a spin of game a long time ago that was Imperial Navy fighters vs Ork Fighta-bommas in a squadron-on-squadron airbattle. Did it actualy exisit, or did i dream it?

It's a game called "Aeronautica Imperialis". It's officially done at the 40K scale. It's fun, but it's expensive as all Feth on account of most of the aircraft only being available through Forgeworld.

Lord Harrab wrote:I seem to remember a spin off game a long time ago that was Imperial Navy fighters vs Ork Fighta-bommas in a squadron-on-squadron airbattle. Did it actualy exisit, or did i dream it?

Back on topic, i suppose a pair of Valkyries with missile pods could re-create a strafing run, sort of clearing the DZ for Her ladyship and her men to deploy.

I still suggest an armored force. I may have only played one game so far, but I've spent lots of time watching other people play, and I've seen that the IG do best with and armored thrust.

metallifan wrote:Or they could just be efficient and orbitally bonbaonbardle the piss out of the enemy and just shrug at the loss of a few thousand Guardsmen

Unless they actually want to capture the area, which I would imagine they would.

They'd still capture it, it would just be a smouldering PoS Besides, after months of sustained Trench Warfare, which seems to be a Guard favorite, I doubt the battle would make it much better in the end.

And yea the one thing about Armoured is, you get more bang for your buck. Definately better if you're planning on Mechanizing a whole force to go with ArmMech. Having a couple air units for support wouldn't hurt (And I imagine they'd catch some conflict with Necrons on the surface, so some AirCav helps) but for general A->B, you'll want a good supply of Chimeras with Russ support

metallifan wrote:They'd still capture it, it would just be a smouldering PoS Besides, after months of sustained Trench Warfare, which seems to be a Guard favorite, I doubt the battle would make it much better in the end.

And yea the one thing about Armoured is, you get more bang for your buck. Definately better if you're planning on Mechanizing a whole force to go with ArmMech. Having a couple air units for support wouldn't hurt (And I imagine they'd catch some conflict with Necrons on the surface, so some AirCav helps) but for general A->B, you'll want a good supply of Chimeras with Russ support

Indeed, as a former Iron Warriors command of considerable experience, i know the terror a well timed armored attack can cause, and IG can take more tanks.

Lord Harrab wrote:

metallifan wrote:They'd still capture it, it would just be a smouldering PoS Besides, after months of sustained Trench Warfare, which seems to be a Guard favorite, I doubt the battle would make it much better in the end.

And yea the one thing about Armoured is, you get more bang for your buck. Definately better if you're planning on Mechanizing a whole force to go with ArmMech. Having a couple air units for support wouldn't hurt (And I imagine they'd catch some conflict with Necrons on the surface, so some AirCav helps) but for general A->B, you'll want a good supply of Chimeras with Russ support

Indeed, as a former Iron Warriors command of considerable experience, i know the terror a well timed armored attack can cause, and IG can take more tanks.

Any other armies you have commanded? Also, what made you decide to switch to IG?

And yes, I have watched many a game won by a well-timed armored thrust at the enemy's heart. OK, about a dozen. I am lucky enough to live near an active gaming shop with tons of interested players. I hope to play them when I get my army painted. All there's that I have seen are completely painted and I am too shy to embarrass myself by being the only one with an unpainted army.

Just Iron Warriors, i had nearly 3000 pts of them, but when i moved away from my regular gaming group i sold them all.

The reason i didn't bother to pick them back up again now my interest has been rekindled is that now the've lost everything that made me field them in the first place. Besides, a change is good. And IG can have more dakka now.

Lord Harrab wrote:The reason i didn't bother to pick them back up again now my interest has been rekindled is that now the've lost everything that made me field them in the first place.

And that was...?

Lord Harrab wrote:Besides, a change is good. And IG can have more dakka now.

You said it wrong. It's "MORE DAKKA!!!".

Personally, though, I just like the thought of heavily armored psychos charging screaming across the battlefield waving chain-axes/swords to just be too awesome to pass up. The same goes for huge swarms of galaxy eating insects that will eat your face off. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! NOM NOM NOM!!!

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:The reason i didn't bother to pick them back up again now my interest has been rekindled is that now the've lost everything that made me field them in the first place.

And that was...?

Lord Harrab wrote:Besides, a change is good. And IG can have more dakka now.

You said it wrong. It's "MORE DAKKA!!!".

Personally, though, I just like the thought of heavily armored psychos charging screaming across the battlefield waving chain-axes/swords to just be too awesome to pass up. The same goes for huge swarms of galaxy eating insects that will eat your face off. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! NOM NOM NOM!!!

Sorry, i should have explained better:

No Basalisks!
No Lopsided FOC allowing MORE DAKKA! less Fast Attack
They were the only Space marines allowed to put spikes and demonic stuff on a vindicator, (Nothing pisses of an opponent more than trying to get rid of a regenerating, mutated hull, demonically possessed vindicator in cover. even more so if there's a Havoc squad nearby who's champion has a servo arm.)
Their ability to, for no cost, count as fearless while in fortifications if they are the "defender" in that mission


As for Khorne Bezerkers, i could see their attraction after a particularly memorable game were Karn (fielded by my friend in a 2v2, Imperials vs chaos battle. us vs them) wiped out a terminator squad and took my Daemon Price/Warsmith's last wound all in the same turn.

Lord Harrab wrote:As for Khorne Bezerkers, i could see their attraction after a particularly memorable game were Karn (fielded by my friend in a 2v2, Imperials vs chaos battle. us vs them) wiped out a terminator squad and took my Daemon Price/Warsmith's last wound all in the same turn.

Yeah, I know. Kharn is awesome. He basically single-handedly won me my first (and so far only) game, against Orks. He hacked his way through the Nobz and then killed the Warboss, all on turn 2 (it was a small table). After that, it was just a matter of sending the Berserkers top mop up the rest of the boyz, as I'd destroyed his primary attack force.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:As for Khorne Bezerkers, i could see their attraction after a particularly memorable game were Karn (fielded by my friend in a 2v2, Imperials vs chaos battle. us vs them) wiped out a terminator squad and took my Daemon Price/Warsmith's last wound all in the same turn.

Yeah, I know. Kharn is awesome. He basically single-handedly won me my first (and so far only) game, against Orks. He hacked his way through the Nobz and then killed the Warboss, all on turn 2 (it was a small table). After that, it was just a matter of sending the Berserkers top mop up the rest of the boyz, as I'd destroyed his primary attack force.

You out orked the Orks? Nifty.

That game must have been short, the only movement would be straight across the table towards the foe, the shooting wouldn't have amounted to much, (orks miss a lot, Beserkers don't give a frack.) then fisty-cuffs.

I liked my vindicator, it was so tough i could reliably count on owning that table quarter, most of my friends knew that anything that got within 24" would die in an amusing fashion. (Not that staying away helped, vindicator + Basilisk team up FTW!)

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:As for Khorne Bezerkers, i could see their attraction after a particularly memorable game were Karn (fielded by my friend in a 2v2, Imperials vs chaos battle. us vs them) wiped out a terminator squad and took my Daemon Price/Warsmith's last wound all in the same turn.

Yeah, I know. Kharn is awesome. He basically single-handedly won me my first (and so far only) game, against Orks. He hacked his way through the Nobz and then killed the Warboss, all on turn 2 (it was a small table). After that, it was just a matter of sending the Berserkers top mop up the rest of the boyz, as I'd destroyed his primary attack force.

You out orked the Orks? Nifty.

That game must have been short, the only movement would be straight across the table towards the foe, the shooting wouldn't have amounted to much, (orks miss a lot, Beserkers don't give a frack.) then fisty-cuffs.

I liked my vindicator, it was so tough i could reliably count on owning that table quarter, most of my friends knew that anything that got within 24" would die in an amusing fashion. (Not that staying away helped, vindicator + Basilisk team up FTW!)

Yep, it was. Neither side really shot anything, and Kharn managed to reach the Orks first, but the others weren't far behind. The Berserkers + Kharn didn't have any trouble cutting them to ribbons in close combat. It was funny.

Do you plan to equip your new IG army with a Basilisk?

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:As for Khorne Bezerkers, i could see their attraction after a particularly memorable game were Karn (fielded by my friend in a 2v2, Imperials vs chaos battle. us vs them) wiped out a terminator squad and took my Daemon Price/Warsmith's last wound all in the same turn.

Yeah, I know. Kharn is awesome. He basically single-handedly won me my first (and so far only) game, against Orks. He hacked his way through the Nobz and then killed the Warboss, all on turn 2 (it was a small table). After that, it was just a matter of sending the Berserkers top mop up the rest of the boyz, as I'd destroyed his primary attack force.

You out orked the Orks? Nifty.

That game must have been short, the only movement would be straight across the table towards the foe, the shooting wouldn't have amounted to much, (orks miss a lot, Beserkers don't give a frack.) then fisty-cuffs.

I liked my vindicator, it was so tough i could reliably count on owning that table quarter, most of my friends knew that anything that got within 24" would die in an amusing fashion. (Not that staying away helped, vindicator + Basilisk team up FTW!)

Yep, it was. Neither side really shot anything, and Kharn managed to reach the Orks first, but the others weren't far behind. The Berserkers + Kharn didn't have any trouble cutting them to ribbons in close combat. It was funny.

Do you plan to equip your new IG army with a Basilisk?

I'm going to steer this puppy back on topic and answer your question at the same time.

Yes. Even with it's limited effectivness inside a Tomb, it could be used as an assualt gun once it had been used to breach the walls. ('cos Doors are for losers. )

What if the tomb is located miles below the surface, as many are? Also, what does our good lady Inquisitor do if she should manage to find some unactivated Nercons sleeping in their tomb? Attempt to destroy them? Attempt to carry some off for study and dissection? Place some charges and run like freth?

Deathbot wrote:What if the tomb is located miles below the surface, as many are?

Guardsmen carry those entrenching shovels for a reason ya know.

Deathbot wrote:Also, what does our good lady Inquisitor do if she should manage to find some unactivated Nercons sleeping in their tomb? Attempt to destroy them? Attempt to carry some off for study and dissection? Place some charges and run like freth?

I Think she'd see what she can learn then and there, (after placing charges of course, as a precaution.) then try and carry some off for study at her leisure. As I've said before, i think she's more of a scholar than a xenophobic zealot.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:Also, what does our good lady Inquisitor do if she should manage to find some unactivated Nercons sleeping in their tomb? Attempt to destroy them? Attempt to carry some off for study and dissection? Place some charges and run like freth?

I Think she'd see what she can learn then and there, (after placing charges of course, as a precaution.) then try and carry some off for study at her leisure. As I've said before, i think she's more of a scholar than a xenophobic zealot.

She's not exactly Heretical, more like Puritan going on Radical. *Commence shameless attempt to justify heresy*

After all, her intentions are to destroy the Necrons, and there's that saying; "Know thy Enemy".

Lady Croft is loyal to the Imperial Creed, and doesn't use the tech she finds, (Mostly, although that could be because the damn things are still in the hands of their owners and keep phasing out on her.)

Besides, there's an entire temple of Assassins with Necron tech, I don't see why an Inquisitor can't use any.

Lord Harrab wrote:She's not exactly Heretical, more like Puritan going on Radical. *Commence shameless attempt to justify heresy*

After all, her intentions are to destroy the Necrons, and there's that saying; "Know thy Enemy".

Lady Croft is loyal to the Imperial Creed, and doesn't use the tech she finds, (Mostly, although that could be because the damn things are still in the hands of their owners and keep phasing out on her.)

Besides, there's an entire temple of Assassins with Necron tech, I don't see why an Inquisitor can't use any.

"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty!"
— Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:The reason i didn't bother to pick them back up again now my interest has been rekindled is that now the've lost everything that made me field them in the first place.

And that was...?

Lord Harrab wrote:Besides, a change is good. And IG can have more dakka now.

You said it wrong. It's "MORE DAKKA!!!".

You mean, ALL YOUR DAKKA ARE BELONG TO US!

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:She's not exactly Heretical, more like Puritan going on Radical. *Commence shameless attempt to justify heresy*

After all, her intentions are to destroy the Necrons, and there's that saying; "Know thy Enemy".

Lady Croft is loyal to the Imperial Creed, and doesn't use the tech she finds, (Mostly, although that could be because the damn things are still in the hands of their owners and keep phasing out on her.)

Besides, there's an entire temple of Assassins with Necron tech, I don't see why an Inquisitor can't use any.

"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty!"
— Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov

*Is Blammed*

Just letting you guys know that I'm working on the life of Lady Croft up until the formation of her regiment, it's going quite well i think.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:She's not exactly Heretical, more like Puritan going on Radical. *Commence shameless attempt to justify heresy*

After all, her intentions are to destroy the Necrons, and there's that saying; "Know thy Enemy".

Lady Croft is loyal to the Imperial Creed, and doesn't use the tech she finds, (Mostly, although that could be because the damn things are still in the hands of their owners and keep phasing out on her.)

Besides, there's an entire temple of Assassins with Necron tech, I don't see why an Inquisitor can't use any.

"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty!"
— Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov

*Is Blammed*

Just letting you guys know that I'm working on the life of Lady Croft up until the formation of her regiment, it's going quite well i think.

Excellent. I hope to hear more.

Codex arrived today, and I've worked out a "Fluffy" army list and much to my annoyance, i can only field three vehicles in a 1500pt list (A Valkyrie, a Basilisk and a chimera.) Man, veterans get expensive...

Edit: Forgot to add in the points limit.

Lord Harrab wrote:Codex arrived today, and I've worked out a "Fluffy" army list and much to my annoyance, i can only field three vehicles in a 1500pt list (A Valkyrie, a Basilisk and a chimera.) Man, veterans get expensive...

Edit: Forgot to add in the points limit.

An IG army without many vehicles? Man, unless you're a REALLY good tactician, you're going to get slaughtered. The IG can't footslog for crap. I'd think about dumping some veterans and adding a Leman Russ or two...

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Codex arrived today, and I've worked out a "Fluffy" army list and much to my annoyance, i can only field three vehicles in a 1500pt list (A Valkyrie, a Basilisk and a chimera.) Man, veterans get expensive...

Edit: Forgot to add in the points limit.

An IG army without many vehicles? Man, unless you're a REALLY good tactician, you're going to get slaughtered. The IG can't footslog for crap. I'd think about dumping some veterans and adding a Leman Russ or two...

Indeed.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Codex arrived today, and I've worked out a "Fluffy" army list and much to my annoyance, i can only field three vehicles in a 1500pt list (A Valkyrie, a Basilisk and a chimera.) Man, veterans get expensive...

Edit: Forgot to add in the points limit.

An IG army without many vehicles? Man, unless you're a REALLY good tactician, you're going to get slaughtered. The IG can't footslog for crap. I'd think about dumping some veterans and adding a Leman Russ or two...

Indeed.

So do you think that you're up for it? Do you think you can strip your IG of its most powerful asset, its armor, and still win with it? If not, then you may want to take my suggestion. If so, I'd love to know how.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Codex arrived today, and I've worked out a "Fluffy" army list and much to my annoyance, i can only field three vehicles in a 1500pt list (A Valkyrie, a Basilisk and a chimera.) Man, veterans get expensive...

Edit: Forgot to add in the points limit.

An IG army without many vehicles? Man, unless you're a REALLY good tactician, you're going to get slaughtered. The IG can't footslog for crap. I'd think about dumping some veterans and adding a Leman Russ or two...

Indeed.

So do you think that you're up for it? Do you think you can strip your IG of its most powerful asset, its armor, and still win with it? If not, then you may want to take my suggestion. If so, I'd love to know how.

Sorry, i was agreeing with you, perhaps only one veteran squad and the rest all cannon fodder, that should get me a battle tank at least while still fitting the army theme.

Perhaps i should get rid of my Kell stand in too, he's quite pricey.

Lord Harrab wrote:
Sorry, i was agreeing with you, perhaps only one veteran squad and the rest all cannon fodder, that should get me a battle tank at least while still fitting the army theme.

Perhaps i should get rid of my Kell stand in too, he's quite pricey.

An armored force would actually fit the theme quite nicely. Necrons don't have much in the way of anti-tank (besides Destroyers), so an army dedicated to hunting them down would naturally try to exploit this. Not to mention the soldiers and Inquisitor would probably want to keep as much armor as possible in between themselves and Necron weaponry.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:
Sorry, i was agreeing with you, perhaps only one veteran squad and the rest all cannon fodder, that should get me a battle tank at least while still fitting the army theme.

Perhaps i should get rid of my Kell stand in too, he's quite pricey.

An armored force would actually fit the theme quite nicely. Necrons don't have much in the way of anti-tank (besides Destroyers), so an army dedicated to hunting them down would naturally try to exploit this. Not to mention the soldiers and Inquisitor would probably want to keep as much armor as possible in between themselves and Necron weaponry.

so you're saying bare-bones squads to make room for Tanks?

And Lady Croft (and her retinue) is a surprisingly cheap anti-deep striker unit, even with her 3+ Armour save with a 4 +invulnerable back up, the company command squad costs more!

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:
Sorry, i was agreeing with you, perhaps only one veteran squad and the rest all cannon fodder, that should get me a battle tank at least while still fitting the army theme.

Perhaps i should get rid of my Kell stand in too, he's quite pricey.

An armored force would actually fit the theme quite nicely. Necrons don't have much in the way of anti-tank (besides Destroyers), so an army dedicated to hunting them down would naturally try to exploit this. Not to mention the soldiers and Inquisitor would probably want to keep as much armor as possible in between themselves and Necron weaponry.

so you're saying bare-bones squads to make room for Tanks?

And Lady Croft (and her retinue) is a surprisingly cheap anti-deep striker unit, even with her 3+ Armour save with a 4 +invulnerable back up, the company command squad costs more!

Yes. Tanks are very effective in most cases, more so than hordes of easily-destroyed cannon fodder that cannot so much as cross the table. Fluff wise, they're aren't that mnay survivors, are there? I would think a decimated regiment wouldn't have many people to spare.

Who is to be in her retinue?

2 warriors (basically Inquisitorial storm troopers)
a servo skull I'm nicknaming "Zip"
2 mystics. (allowing either the retinue or more likely a nearby unit with 12" to shoot at anything that jumps out at them)

The mystics I'm going to model like guardsmen with sensor equipment.

EDIT: Another point i need to raise is that IG's only troop choice are Platoons, so i need at least two.

Lord Harrab wrote:2 warriors (basically Inquisitorial storm troopers)
a servo skull I'm nicknaming "Zip"
2 mystics. (allowing either the retinue or more likely a nearby unit with 12" to shoot at anything that jumps out at them)

The mystics I'm going to model like guardsmen with sensor equipment.

EDIT: Another point i need to raise is that IG's only troop choice are Platoons, so i need at least two.

Nice. What weapons does she herself wield?

OK, simple. You can fill said platoons with cheap cannon fodder. Luckily IG soldiers are really cheap and can be added for minimal points. Alternatively, you could give up and armor piece or two and make them better units. Your choice.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:2 warriors (basically Inquisitorial storm troopers)
a servo skull I'm nicknaming "Zip"
2 mystics. (allowing either the retinue or more likely a nearby unit with 12" to shoot at anything that jumps out at them)

The mystics I'm going to model like guardsmen with sensor equipment.

EDIT: Another point i need to raise is that IG's only troop choice are Platoons, so i need at least two.

Nice. What weapons does she herself wield?

OK, simple. You can fill said platoons with cheap cannon fodder. Luckily IG soldiers are really cheap and can be added for minimal points. Alternatively, you could give up and armor piece or two and make them better units. Your choice.

Lady Croft has a master crafted Bolt pistol with psycannon rounds and a power weapon, representing her skill with her two pistols, and her choice to use them combat, but I'm going to model a sword on her back in-case anyone pulls the WYSIWYG card on her, and an icon of the just to represent her acombat skills, allowing her to avoid attacks.

The platoons will be mostly cannon fodder, with a single veteran squad to represent the survivors of the initial attack. Accompanying them will be a squad of snipers (a squad of ratlings but i hate the models, so i'll use humans.)

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:2 warriors (basically Inquisitorial storm troopers)
a servo skull I'm nicknaming "Zip"
2 mystics. (allowing either the retinue or more likely a nearby unit with 12" to shoot at anything that jumps out at them)

The mystics I'm going to model like guardsmen with sensor equipment.

EDIT: Another point i need to raise is that IG's only troop choice are Platoons, so i need at least two.

Nice. What weapons does she herself wield?

OK, simple. You can fill said platoons with cheap cannon fodder. Luckily IG soldiers are really cheap and can be added for minimal points. Alternatively, you could give up and armor piece or two and make them better units. Your choice.

Lady Croft has a master crafted Bolt pistol with psycannon rounds and a power weapon, representing her skill with her two pistols, and her choice to use them combat, but I'm going to model a sword on her back in-case anyone pulls the WYSIWYG card on her, and an icon of the just to represent her acombat skills, allowing her to avoid attacks.

The platoons will be mostly cannon fodder, with a single veteran squad to represent the survivors of the initial attack. Accompanying them will be a squad of snipers (a squad of ratlings but i hate the models, so i'll use humans.)

Good. I'm sure she'll look great for when I have Kharn chop off her head or feed her two my nids.

Sounds good. Now for the big question. How many vehicles will you deploy and what type?

The actual number of vehicles I'll have to work out, but as for types the bog-standard Russ should perform well against all comers and i'll squeeze in a basilisk somewhere.

I'm going to grab a Punisher at some point, not exactly fitting the theme, but I'd love to see an ork or trynaid player's face as the Gatling gun and heavy bolters open up, ( needs MORE DAKKA!! though) no AP but good luck making all those 6s

I had initially considered a vanquisher, to help kill any monoliths, but don't they have immunity to bonus d6's for Armour penetration?

Lord Harrab wrote:
I'm going to grab a Punisher at some point, not exactly fitting the theme, but I'd love to see an ork or trynaid player's face as the Gatling gun and heavy bolters open up, ( needs MORE DAKKA!! though) no AP but good luck making all those 6s

I had initially considered a vanquisher, to help kill any monoliths, but don't they have immunity to bonus d6's for Armour penetration?

You're right about that. Everything needs MORE DAKKA. No exceptions. Enuff dakka is an impossibility.

It's usually better to ignore the monoliths and try and force the Necrons to Phase Out instead.

Deathbot wrote:

You're right about that. Everything needs MORE DAKKA. No exceptions. Enuff dakka is an impossibility.

It's usually better to ignore the monoliths and try and force the Necrons to Phase Out instead.

Thats what i thought, a basilisk and 2 Leman Russes operating separately should help with that.


Edit: Worked it out, dropped the Valkyrie and a Veteran squad, and re-aranged some equipment amongst the officers.

Edit2: if playing a 2000pt game, i can grab another two Leman Russ tanks, organize them all into two squadrons of two, and can take the Valkyrie.

Edit3: Damn my crappy spelling, (also, new character will be included both in the army list and in Lady Croft's history, Commissar Lyudmila Pavlichenko)

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

You're right about that. Everything needs MORE DAKKA. No exceptions. Enuff dakka is an impossibility.

It's usually better to ignore the monoliths and try and force the Necrons to Phase Out instead.

Thats what i thought, a basilisk and 2 Leman Russes operating separately should help with that.


Edit: Worked it out, dropped the Valkyrie and a Veteran squad, and re-aranged some equipment amongst the officers.

Edit2: if playing a 2000pt game, i can grab another two Leman Russ tanks, organize them all into two squadrons of two, and can take the Valkyrie.

Edit3: Damn my crappy spelling, (also, new character will be included both in the army list and in Lady Croft's history, Commissar Lyudmila Pavlichenko)

How will the Basilisk + 2 Leman Russes help ignore the monolith?

They'll (hopefuly) cause a lot of casualties amongst the infantry, and get them that much closer to Phasing out

Lord Harrab wrote:They'll (hopefuly) cause a lot of casualties amongst the infantry, and get them that much closer to Phasing out

Execellent. Just be sure to take out the Destroyers first, as they will tear up your armor. However, without them the Necrons can't do much to scratch your tanks, unless you were somehow stupid enough to get one into close combat with a C'tan. That shouldn't be much of a problem, though, as any and all IG armor can drive circles around the C'tan and blast them to ashes.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:They'll (hopefuly) cause a lot of casualties amongst the infantry, and get them that much closer to Phasing out

Execellent. Just be sure to take out the Destroyers first, as they will tear up your armor. However, without them the Necrons can't do much to scratch your tanks, unless you were somehow stupid enough to get one into close combat with a C'tan. That shouldn't be much of a problem, though, as any and all IG armor can drive circles around the C'tan and blast them to ashes.

I didn't get into CC with C'Tan, he got into it with me. The results are the same either way.

I like how this army is shaping up, how long do you think it'll be until you put out your army list?

Napalm wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:They'll (hopefuly) cause a lot of casualties amongst the infantry, and get them that much closer to Phasing out

Execellent. Just be sure to take out the Destroyers first, as they will tear up your armor. However, without them the Necrons can't do much to scratch your tanks, unless you were somehow stupid enough to get one into close combat with a C'tan. That shouldn't be much of a problem, though, as any and all IG armor can drive circles around the C'tan and blast them to ashes.

I didn't get into CC with C'Tan, he got into it with me. The results are the same either way.

I like how this army is shaping up, how long do you think it'll be until you put out your army list?

I've worked it out all ready, but I haven't uploaded it yet.

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