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How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/10 01:32:33


Post by: legoburner


As requested by Deammer


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/10 10:03:08


Post by: Kilkrazy


I use brush-on gesso on individual figures and for 'touching up'.

I use spray primer (Plasti-kote_ for vehicles, buildings and masses of figures.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/10 10:07:24


Post by: Sinister Brain


I use black gesso a lot.
I really like using the Tamiya grey primer. It's hard to screw up and that's important for me since my middle name is disaster. :p


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/10 21:45:28


Post by: The Good Green


I still use a brush and black paint. I've been thinking about getting a can of the spray on stuff... like hair or something...

From what I've read, though, you still have to go back in with a brush sometimes. So, until I get a can to try out, I'll just be thinking about it. :p


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/10 21:50:18


Post by: LunaHound



*Other , mainly floral spray.

The paint have tiny bit of trouble sticking on though...


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/13 06:18:44


Post by: chromedog


Auto primer.

Some unkind souls have also suggested "a trowel".



How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/13 06:29:53


Post by: Krak_kirby


If you aren't one of those "Golden Demon ten months on an infantry model" types, I like Krylon Fusion for all my plastic models. It goes on a little thicker than some primers but still shows detail well. It chemically bonds to plastic, forming a very durable basecoat. I've used my thumbnail to try and damage the finish, but it's tough stuff.

The other benefit is that it's available in a lot of satin colors that take paint just fine. I have white, black, warm and cool greys, khaki, navy, maroon, and several other colors that have formed my first base color and been the primer all in one.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/13 06:48:46


Post by: Manimal


Air Brush Citadel paints.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/13 07:49:08


Post by: Squig_herder


Brush, Mostly chaos black


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/15 17:32:10


Post by: nyyman


The cheapest non-melting black spray I can find from shop



How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 07:34:15


Post by: ultramarinelord


I tried out some regular black spray paint one time, it just didn't seem to adhere to the plastic so I ended up having to buy the overpriced Citadel spray.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 10:05:02


Post by: Helbrecht


preferably, spray. but i'm 17 and i've just run out of my last can, so I'm painting on paint until I can sen in an older family member


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 10:44:32


Post by: Sidstyler


Duplicolor black sandable primer. Used to use the GW spray but I'm not paying fething $15 a can for that gak...tried Armory primer and I do not recommend it, that stuff is horrible and all it did was ruin my models.

Duplicolor costs about $5 a can and goes on pretty lightly, I'm never going back.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 17:51:53


Post by: Uriels_Flame


You know, for all the crap with give GW I really like the foundation paints. I can literally brush on a good color and start painting right away.

Haven't tried a vehicle yet.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 18:12:54


Post by: Major Malfunction


Krylon Charcoal Black primer for dark subjects, White for bright colors, Grey for middle of the road stuff.

Black Gesso for figures, touch ups and when it's too cold outside to spray prime.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 18:15:23


Post by: Eldar Own


Usually brush on a normal paint undercoat, oftena cidatel foundation but if the model(s) im painting have a lot of black on (for example night goblins) or white (howling banshees have a lot of white/bone colour) i will use some spray paint.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/16 19:23:13


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


GW's sprays, aye they cost more, but so far *touches wood* I've never had an issue with them, and the latest version goes on really smooth.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/17 04:53:41


Post by: Cryonicleech


GW's Primer.

However, I really want to switch. Not that it's bad quality, but $15 for a can is getting a bit steep.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/17 15:17:30


Post by: KingCracker


I use cheap .97 cent cans from home depot. The stuff lays on incredibly and its dirt cheap. Who could ask for more?


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/17 23:31:35


Post by: ZacktheChaosChild


@KingCracker


Agreed, but I use the ultra-flat stuff...


And for tanks i use textured paint to make it look, well, textured.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/18 19:11:26


Post by: Hordini


Now I mostly use brush on gesso, but I used to just brush on watered-down black paint (Chaos Black or something similar). Sometimes I'll use an airbrush, but mostly now it's just gesso. Nowadays pretty much the only thing I use a spray can for is varnish.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/18 23:18:20


Post by: Valhallan42nd


Walmart $0.98 flat black.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/19 01:43:38


Post by: Neith


GW Black/White Spray Primer, depending on model. I may consider something else soon though, the price is getting ridiculous.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/19 03:58:02


Post by: skullking


I tried out black gesso on the suggestion of someone here. And it worked amazingly well!! Tried it with white, and had terrible results! What's the diffrence? Same brands!! (please withhold any racial jabs. )

So for white I just get some rustoleum or whatever brand they have at the hardware store white metal primer. Works great, but I typically have to go over my black models with paint anyway, so the gesso is the perfect deal.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/19 12:49:19


Post by: Geek-Squad-Man


I have been painting miniatures for 30 years- I even held a fig-painting class for 8yrs in a couple local stores.
I have used everything (or seen what I haven't used on other peoples stuff)

TAMIYA white spray primer is BY FAR the best- No others even come close-(they make Grey too, but not black)
it covers well, goes on very light and flat and doesn't obscure surface details, drys FAST-
and with certain colors you can basecoat right over the white primer with wash or ink and then drybrush one or two stages of GW or Vallejo and you're DONE!
-------------------------------------------------
The only drawback is price VS. size of can-
-------------------------------------------------
But I guess if I was painting 99 cents a bag "Plastic Army men from the Dollar Store", I'd use cheap Krylon or some other generic garbage-

I spend TOP dollar for HIGH QUALITY figs, I use the best primer, and paints MADE FOR painting figs-
I can promise there are NO Golden Demon winners that used Krylon and Apple Barrel craft paint-

All the talent in the world can't make up for bad, cheap supplies- But top-quality stuff can make it easier for a mediocre painter turn out decent looking minis-


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/20 03:19:06


Post by: Noble713


Mostly Testor's spray. I've used the new GW white primer, which seems really thin and powdery, so I don't like it.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/21 15:23:15


Post by: gretar


I use a white , sandable primer atm.

I dont like GW or Tamiya , simply becouse GW ones dont give me the rough , gritty coat i want without having to buy another can .. and Tamiya is not avilable here for all i know , and i once bought it through the internet and did'nt quite like it ..

Gretar


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/23 13:55:19


Post by: mortal888


Montana Gold spray paints:

http://www.merriartist.com/Montana_Spray_Cans_s/849.htm

They go on like GW primers but come in every color.

Here's one of my uses for it:

http://mortal888.blogspot.com/2009/09/concept-models-part-2.html


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/28 02:59:09


Post by: Schmapdi


Krylon - work's great, but it's so hard to find any stores carrying it in black, they only seem to ever have grey.

I also have some white gesso, for the rare things I want to paint white.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/28 04:24:49


Post by: oadie


I use the super cheap midget cans you can pick up for a buck at Home Depot or Walmart. Haven't had any problems, yet. Don't spray like a jackass and your minis will come out fine. Nice satin finish that takes paint just fine. I've also found that it's pretty forgiving stuff if you overspray and get a drip - just blow hard at the drip to spread it out and you can still save the details. Don't have any chaos black, so I touch up the crevices I missed with watered down craft acrylic (Apple Barrel and the like). Works just fine for me and doesn't break the bank by a longshot. Tiny cans are easy to carry and work with, too.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/28 14:10:51


Post by: avisobling


I use the 96 cent wal-mart black spray can it works great.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/28 16:55:46


Post by: Cryonicleech


Good 'ol Brush on for me.

I find that a $3.50 Paint Pot is cheaper than most sprays (excepting the wal-mart black spray mentioned above)


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/11/30 14:33:56


Post by: devilfluff


I've been basing my Space Wolves with Army Painter's uniform grey. Pretty close to codex grey...

My Empire has gotten a combo of GW white, GW black primer(the old school stuff), AP Chainmail(knights), & AP desert khaki(?).


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/04 08:19:47


Post by: Candroth


Just bought some P3 white primer. Before that I was using the uhh .... grey primer, had the Munchkin cartoon guys on it, helfican remember what it is o.O


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/08 15:22:16


Post by: Blarglord


I use good ole WalMart $.97 flat black spray. When it's too humid, (which it always is seems where I live) I used a thick wash of Chaos Black.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/09 15:38:54


Post by: jmurph


Sidstyler wrote:Duplicolor black sandable primer. Used to use the GW spray but I'm not paying fething $15 a can for that gak...tried Armory primer and I do not recommend it, that stuff is horrible and all it did was ruin my models.

Duplicolor costs about $5 a can and goes on pretty lightly, I'm never going back.


This. If it works for Ali McVey, it works for me!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/13 08:32:40


Post by: Hydroblender


Cheapest i can find in the hardware store!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/15 21:42:44


Post by: 1337m45747r0y


Cheap gray spray paint works just fine for me


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/15 23:59:41


Post by: Deminyn


I've used armory, GW, and P3 primer sprays. I've used old GW paint on primer. I've also just white washed models before...


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/16 00:35:13


Post by: warpcrafter


nyyman wrote:The cheapest non-melting black spray I can find from shop



Me too. Why pay GW prices when you can get it at a third the price from Wal-mart.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/16 06:00:33


Post by: Oldoneeye


Wal-Mart 93 cents flat black. Unbeatable.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/16 19:54:49


Post by: Lord of Kaith


I undercoat mine by hand, with Chaos Black, using the starter brush.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/16 21:26:29


Post by: Howlingmoon


I've been using GW black and white depending on the model.Yeah, it's more expensive but supplies is the one area where I always support my local GW store. I could get stuff cheaper elsewhere, but I get value out of the GW store and if it gets axed, my friends lose their jobs. Not to mention that I use their facilities to paint and I'm not that guy that paints and plays at a place but never buys from them.

for sealant I use Krylon.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/18 05:40:16


Post by: Court


Rustolium flat black.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2009/12/18 12:57:50


Post by: Pipboy101


I use a brown Krylon camo spray paint since it saves be ten minutes per ork mini.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/01/01 18:18:49


Post by: Reecius


I use armory: cheap and good.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/01/01 20:04:26


Post by: finnan


GW white spray basecoat - nice and thin, lovely and smooth. It can miss smoe recesses, but not a huge deal and it a really nice base, better than thinned-down Skull White.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/01/05 16:05:21


Post by: sworth9411


Montana Gold.....comes in a hundred colors and is better quality than GW better coverage lasts longer and bonds perfectly with plastic and metal......designed for outdoor use it is literally bomb proof.....just a little tough to find....I dont use anything else.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/01/06 12:38:41


Post by: Hasdrubal


It depends, if I'm lazy I'm using canned black or white primer, GW or Prince August, if I know I'm gonna do some airbrush work on the model I usually start with a black coat through the airbrush. Going forward I'll probably be doing AB only. It is cheaper, you need a single step to cover all the spots of the miniature, there's no fume to ventialte away, and I can worrk on model at 11 PM without disturbing the neighbours or my family.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/01/29 20:00:46


Post by: The Gate Keeper


I prefer brush on a coat of chaos black because I feel I know I won't over do the primer. But if I'm feeling lazy which I normally am I just use a can of 1$ walmart flat black spray paint. I don't see why anyone would pay 15$ for a can of spray paint thats way to much I don't see any difference between it and what I use.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/02/11 06:20:58


Post by: Chipposai


I dont undercoat usually


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/03 15:17:59


Post by: Nurglizer


Tamiya Fine Surface Primer. It's the best. However, when I don't feel like waiting I use Testors paint on acrylic primer. Its fast, but fills in details more than the Tamiya-- not as much as paint though.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/03 15:38:05


Post by: Mattlov


I use Armory Spray Primer for my stuff. A more foul smelling primer I have never found, but the results are the best and most consistent I have found.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/03 21:35:33


Post by: IG_urban


most non-citadel spray paints will melt/warp the plastic. no joke. I have used...MOLOTOW, KRYLON, OFF BRAND, etc...

none of them are worth it...and plus, if you use citadel paint, it has bonding issues. because you are doing water based over oil based....ever pour olive oil in a glass of water?

for those of you who DO use chemical/oil based undercoats...I don't want to know what your armies will look like in a few years.

I like citadel paints because I don't get high while I paint in my man cave. water based = win.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/05 02:59:35


Post by: Baconfat


The cheapest black, white, or gray FLAT sprays you can find at Home Depot or Lowes depending on the color scheme of the mimi.

The cheap crap tends to really stick to metal or plastic. If the can starts to get powdery or sporadic I dump it immediately. $1-2 US dollars is no great loss.

I spray for a whole day's session though. I hate the priming process so I'll knock out a hundred models or more models on a lazy Sunday, so I don't have to do it again for a while.

If I only painted a few models a month or competed, I'd have no problem spending the a few extra bucks on the quality GW? or Armory! stuff.

Bacon


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/05 04:31:19


Post by: Xca|iber


GW Black spray. Works nicely for me.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/29 09:29:26


Post by: Boss 'eadbreaka


GW undercoat for me. Expensive, but readily available and I'm a lazy bugger.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/29 10:04:58


Post by: Tim the Biovore


I either GW spray, or when I can't be bothered waiting that long, just basecoat them with a brush.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/03/30 04:37:37


Post by: Sasori


I use the GW spray, but I agree with the other posters that it is starting to get a little too pricey.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/04/07 19:46:13


Post by: Ravenous D


GW primer for undercoating, airbrush on gloss or matt varnish.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/08/09 21:46:58


Post by: Jimsolo


Generic automobile primer.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/08/10 10:49:02


Post by: Gailbraithe


I use Duplicolor Black Sandable Primer for metals. It's an auto-primer.

Little secret I learned working at Privateer Press: Duplicolor is what their catalog painters use. They didn't start selling their own primer until after I left, but I've used it and I'm 100% certain that it's just repackaged Duplicolor. Can is the exact same dimension, with the exact same nozzle, and I cannot tell any difference between the two -- except that a can of Duplicolor is half the price of a can of P3 Black Primer (and a quarter of the price of GW primer).

For plastics I used to use Duplicolor, but lately I've been using Krylon Fusion Flat Black for most models, and other Fusion colors for some specific models.

For example I use the Burgandy as the base coat for all of my Chaos Space Marines and then wash it (using a spray gun) with a mix of Baal Red and Badab Black, and the end result is the same deep crimson red of the GI Joe Crimson Guard action figures.

EDIT: Wow, I can't believe how many people use GW spray primer, and hobby primers in general. You guys do know you're throwing money away, right? Auto primer is the exact same thing and costs half to a quarter as much!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/08/16 22:46:12


Post by: draftamike


Citadel/GW spray - WHITE PRIMER.

All other painting is by hand with brush.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/08/26 16:38:46


Post by: Gunkh Inmashnozz


Ive used Army painter, Citadel Skull white primer and Generic black spray acrylic. All work, army painter is nicest Imho and the green is a great Orky primer, handy when doing multiple mobs Its also 3 times the price of the generic spray acrylic however, and green is green as long as its a flat finish, not a gloss. Shiny orks=


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/09/28 19:08:44


Post by: BrassScorpion


Wow, 41% at the time of this writing buy the $15 primer from GW for their undercoating. I would think that alone would keep GW profitable.

I buy lots and lots of models from GW and have done so every year for two decades, but not the glue or primer.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/09/28 19:31:48


Post by: RanTheCid


Gailbraithe wrote:I use Duplicolor Black Sandable Primer for metals. It's an auto-primer.

Little secret I learned working at Privateer Press: Duplicolor is what their catalog painters use. They didn't start selling their own primer until after I left, but I've used it and I'm 100% certain that it's just repackaged Duplicolor. Can is the exact same dimension, with the exact same nozzle, and I cannot tell any difference between the two -- except that a can of Duplicolor is half the price of a can of P3 Black Primer (and a quarter of the price of GW primer).


Duplicolor White is my new Primer. Smooth as silk on both metal and plastic. $5 a can at the local car care store.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/09/28 20:07:05


Post by: Howard A Treesong


Usually a can of Halfords white car primer or other brand, none of those listed in the poll anyway.


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Usually a can of Halfords white car primer or other brand, none of those listed in the poll anyway.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/09/30 14:25:45


Post by: Phototoxin


GW spray only for me... I tried 2 cans of army painter red... it's useless.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/09/30 14:30:47


Post by: BrassScorpion


Krylong spray paint for nearly all my undercoating and P3 White Primer when white primer is needed.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/02 02:46:48


Post by: Anshal


Standard chaos black undercoat spray from GW


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/02 02:51:44


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Geek-Squad-Man wrote:I have been painting miniatures for 30 years- I even held a fig-painting class for 8yrs in a couple local stores.
I have used everything (or seen what I haven't used on other peoples stuff)

TAMIYA white spray primer is BY FAR the best- No others even come close-(they make Grey too, but not black)
it covers well, goes on very light and flat and doesn't obscure surface details, drys FAST-
and with certain colors you can basecoat right over the white primer with wash or ink and then drybrush one or two stages of GW or Vallejo and you're DONE!
-------------------------------------------------
The only drawback is price VS. size of can-
-------------------------------------------------
But I guess if I was painting 99 cents a bag "Plastic Army men from the Dollar Store", I'd use cheap Krylon or some other generic garbage-

I spend TOP dollar for HIGH QUALITY figs, I use the best primer, and paints MADE FOR painting figs-
I can promise there are NO Golden Demon winners that used Krylon and Apple Barrel craft paint-

All the talent in the world can't make up for bad, cheap supplies- But top-quality stuff can make it easier for a mediocre painter turn out decent looking minis-

Fix'd that for you. Dear God, I hope all your posts aren't all bold.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/02 07:07:19


Post by: Azzeh


I use P3. They're what was avalible at my FLGS.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/02 08:06:51


Post by: Laughing Man


Duplicolor sandable automotive primer. It's what the Privateer studio uses, and it's dirt cheap.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/05 00:43:55


Post by: Boss Goretoof


99-cent can of black spray paint from Wal-Mart. Been working fine for years.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/05 01:34:01


Post by: Draggoon


Black Gesso, quick, easy, and easily compatible with very humid summer and sub zero winters...


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/07 01:22:50


Post by: Cadichan Support


Cheap normal white spray paint


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/07 06:32:41


Post by: snurl


Armory primer works just fine.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/10/07 19:12:50


Post by: Dais


98 cent gray primer from walmart has actually served me better than most specialty modeling primers I have tried, some expensive primers are just too thick with particles so fine you need literally ideal conditions for them to work.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/01 16:42:34


Post by: Element206


citadel black primer...the best!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/06 15:07:54


Post by: Dragearen


I just use cheap primer I get from Freddie's.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/11 08:14:11


Post by: Mukkin'About


I usually use Gw primer but it's kinda expensive. I know i could buy cheaper alternatives, but it's a matter of supporting my FLGS on the GW sprays. Heck that's also why i avoid buying off the websites. I woudl rather the managers make a buck or two off me than it all go directly to gw through the site


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/17 18:32:19


Post by: Mohoc


Airbrush and Model Master Acryl Grey Primer, because it lays on perfectly without obsuring any detail.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/18 05:22:09


Post by: Warlord Gazghkull Thraka


I brush on a black coat of paint, but I am planning to spray can it from now on.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/19 12:56:29


Post by: shrike


I do buy GW spray, I just rarely get round to it. 80% are chaos black hand-painted.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/26 14:04:48


Post by: ChocolateGork


Army painter spray paint. i will never do an army that i cant spray the base coat onto!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2010/12/27 03:59:58


Post by: Wyrmalla


Brush on a basecoat of Chaos Black and then using a mix of methods, usually dry brushing, paint the model. You don't get enough out of Citadel spray cans for their cost to warrant buying them in my opinion. ¬¬


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/02/01 05:04:45


Post by: Shas'O Dorian


96 cent can of walmart flat black spray paint. Not the best stuff but if you're like me and just painting to have a decent or good looking army (not for painting competition) it does the job.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/02/01 14:49:10


Post by: kronk


For my Black Templars: Krylon Flat Black Spray Primer or Duplicolor Flat Black Spray Primer.

For my Orks, Krylon Flat White Spray Primer or Duplicolor Flat White Spray Primer.

For my Crimson Fists, The Army Painter Navy Blue Spray Primer.

I tried Gesso once. I didn't like it.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/02/01 17:24:13


Post by: Eilif


It varies.

Individual figs: white or black Gesso.
Groups of figs: I've used Krylon, and other brands (usually cheap store brands) of spray paints and spray primers. Colored if I can find the right color. Otherwise white or black, and usually white (make the basecoats brighter) now that I'm dipping most everything.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/02/02 23:19:07


Post by: Ribon Fox


I use cheepo Hallford's matt car primer, comes in a vast array of colours and sticks to any thing that stuff.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/02/14 22:46:08


Post by: djphranq


Sometimes I use the Reaper primer applied to the model with a brush.

Other times I use GW's Chaos Black.

And then there's Armory... I use black.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/02/15 00:38:09


Post by: btemple0


When I first started, it was usually a GW spray, either white or black.

Then I bought Krylon camo paint, or bought the cheap wal-mart brand, whichever was available at the time.

Now I Airbrush a undercoat, and then 1-2 base coats, and then layer a thin matte varnish over that to protect the base coats.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/03/27 11:47:24


Post by: Melkhiordarkblade


I just use GW spray.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/03/28 22:18:47


Post by: Vasarto


I use this. ColorPlace Spray Paint.

Its at Walmart and it costs Exactly $1.00



How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/03/28 22:20:56


Post by: brainscan


i use GW black base coat spray.

Ive only had issues with the GW white base coat spray coming out all powdery once and had to strip of the paint....


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/03/29 12:10:44


Post by: Howard A Treesong


Halford's car primer for me.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/03/29 12:19:25


Post by: nerdfest09


Always used chaos black spray from GW, but I have waiting in the wings a brand new can of Army painter colored primer to try soon, looking forward to trying it actually.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/03/29 14:17:16


Post by: Metallicarule


Dheneb stone and a big brush for me.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/04/26 01:00:42


Post by: logg_frogg


Air Brush and citadel paints.

After trying everything I would never use anything else! Cost a bit to set up but it is second to none!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/04/26 10:36:10


Post by: AvatarForm


I now use an airbrush with my chosen GW foundation/mix


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/15 04:55:36


Post by: lessthan1337


Privateer Press (call me a heretic) black primer is great stuff


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/15 09:44:27


Post by: Hasharii


I sometimes use GW spraypaint, and spraypaint from a dutch store, called Action. It's allmost the same quallity as GW, but only costs about 2 euros.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/16 01:29:40


Post by: DickBandit


First I undercoat with Krylon Burgundy and then go back over it with Krylon Red. It gives my army a really nice bold red.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/16 02:18:44


Post by: Bloodfrenzy187


I like to do a hand painted primer coat in either black or white depending on the figure.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/20 17:15:11


Post by: Dark Apostle 666


Black. CHAOS BLACK! And lots of it!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/20 19:46:35


Post by: Varrick


Tamiya; same as GW paint only its cheaper.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/20 22:06:40


Post by: hemlighest


I use GW/Army Painter, as I have yet to find a cheaper working product. I bought some spray paint in a local hardware store, but it leaves a lot of residue on the sprayed object. I will have to try more brands though, as GW is just too expensive.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/21 18:50:13


Post by: xXH0LYCRUSAD3Xx


spray paint is the easyist


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How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/21 18:53:03


Post by: The_mini_painter


Halfords grey primer :3 its amazing


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/21 20:32:03


Post by: Gavo


GW spray, it's easy. Not cheap though.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/22 15:32:39


Post by: nickick


Go citadel spray!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/24 05:54:53


Post by: Hans Chung-Otterson


I'm [other]--Touch 'n Tone gray primer. It's actually a primer, unlike GW or Army Painter or Armory. And it's $3, and goes on incredibly smooth. I cannot fathom why anyone buys GW primer.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/28 23:51:54


Post by: cowpow16


Army painter or nothing that stuff is amazing and for $12 Canadian.

Amazing coverage amazing color sticks well and sprays evenly.

Painting blood angles saves me time and money no need to layer and I spend less money buying paint when I prime the marines red.

Warriors painting a ton of warriors and marauders color primer and I can crank em out at 10 times the speed and they look better.

Army painter or nothing!!!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/05/31 15:32:23


Post by: Draglide12


I either brush on or use rustoleum black spray paint.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/03 09:19:50


Post by: weetyskemian44


Matt white acrylic car primer - usually 2-5 quid.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/03 11:40:35


Post by: Plastic




Initially started using white but started having some problems with the can so just switched to the black


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/08 03:44:33


Post by: TQSplinter


I personally use Humbrol Acrylic Matte white spray.



How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/08 03:55:38


Post by: sub-zero


I actually use the grey primer from wal-mart, it's like $1.39 a can and works great. I had no problems what so ever with this stuff. YMMV of course.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/08 13:49:19


Post by: ChocolateGork


Army Painter>Citadel
It has a stronger spray and available in many different colours.

Also it is slightly rough (a good thing i believe)


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/08 14:53:23


Post by: firmlog


I use walmart 88-99c primer. Works really well, and you pretty much cannot put too much one. It's very thin. I prefer Kmart primer, but finding a Kmart is pretty much impossible where I'm living right now.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/14 16:02:07


Post by: nickick


Citadel spray, simple and quick


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/06/26 17:39:45


Post by: Shadowseer_Kim


I use Rustoleum "Painters Touch" Primer. It is about $2 or $3 at places like Bi-Mart local to me. Really good stuff, great price.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/08 18:04:29


Post by: diesel7270


To keep consitency in hues (krylon black has a bit of a different look than Chaos Black), I just cut GW or Vallejo paints with windex and airbrush them on.

With pewter minis, I give two thin coats of varnish to keep paint from coming off of corners before I basecoat.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/08 18:07:23


Post by: rockerbikie


Citadel Spray rocks.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/09 00:54:20


Post by: Fezman


For just about everything I use GW black spray, but when I painted my Manticore I wanted the missile array to really stand out so I primed that with white Halfords Plastic Primer. It went on pretty well and if I remember right it was cheaper than GW spray. I might be starting an Ork army soon, so who knows, the white spray might be getting more use.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/09 05:17:53


Post by: Smitty


Hooray for 2% Testors. It has the same texture as GW, but it's much cheaper.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/09 17:34:16


Post by: weetyskemian44


In the uk I'm saying halfords acrylic primer for the win. I haven't seen testors around these parts


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/18 01:47:41


Post by: snake


Other: Model Master's spray.

While on topic, can anyone recommend a quality white spray? The stuff I use works fine in black but for some reason the white never sticks to the model.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/18 06:53:03


Post by: sp4cew0lf


Chaos Black all the way!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/20 12:36:53


Post by: Deepeyes


I use to use Citadel spray paint chaos black but at NZ$25 (US$22) (GBP13.50) It was getting way too expensive to keep doing so. I went out an got a airbrush and compressor and I now use vallego air black. The airbrush should pay for itself by the time I am done with my army.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/07/21 00:37:14


Post by: ZatGuy


Model Master enamel (owned by testers).

I play IG and blend modern military and 40k camo schemes, MM being a good source of modern/WWII military colors.

I spray the bulk color onto the figures to save time/reduce work.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/08/01 19:28:59


Post by: VardenV2


I used to use GW spray for the longest time. But now I have moved on to cheaper products because the GW spray is like $15 a can. I usually just use Home Depot Flat Black Primer. It's like $2.00 a can. Takes a little longer to dry but the paint sticks fine. I then just go over the unprimed areas with chaos black paint and a brush. Works fine and doesn't chip if I use purity seal.

-VardenV2


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/08/16 17:16:49


Post by: Dakka_Dok


I usually use chaos black primer from GW. I tried the army painter 'army green' today. I have to do some speed painting on my Catachans.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/08/18 15:59:42


Post by: odinsgrandson


Well, I'm supposed to write this in.

Duplicolor. They make great primers.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/08/18 18:29:15


Post by: Stormcallers


I paint on with brush, probably not the easiest way but i like it.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/08/19 14:42:35


Post by: Jordan


I think the 96 cent Walmart spray paint should've been an option. I used that for the longest time until I learned better.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/06 20:03:01


Post by: Akaelus


I use Vallejo primer and an airbrush


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/06 21:35:17


Post by: Trondheim


Either GW Chaos black/ Skull white or amy painter basecoats


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/06 22:16:06


Post by: shadeyaces


I use whatever primer is the cheapest.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/07 18:21:30


Post by: mega_bassist


Wal Mart's 95 cent primer. Cheap, covers well, and doesn't distort any of the model's details


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/08 06:41:30


Post by: Dr. Temujin


I've always stuck with Testors flat black spray. May be a bit more expensive per can, but it sticks well to plastic, and makes for excellent base for my necrons.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/10 04:36:59


Post by: bebopdrums2424


i use either p3 black or white


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/10 04:57:19


Post by: cptbravo


me? I use this brand they sell at my FLGS called Board to Pieces. it coats well, and leaves the models details intact.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/21 05:04:42


Post by: sennacherib


Yeahhhh... I am not the average. I use Army painter since it comes in shades that match my base coat color which saves me a lot of time. Also., the cost is about the same and i have had problems with cans of GW spray fuzzing and clogging. not good.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/22 00:04:42


Post by: nicksavage


I use the Privateer Press P3 spray in black, reccommended by my FLGS folks. A little cheaper than GW and the spray comes out in a fan instead of a cone for precision work.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/23 03:42:51


Post by: Dust


I used to hand prime back when I was first getting into the hobby but that was before I had the money to actually buy a lot of stuff at any given time. Once I could start buying up larger amounts of models at a given time I had to start spray priming because hand priming just took forever.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/24 06:58:22


Post by: king88mob


Vallejo airbrush ready black primer. Great coverage none of the nasty fumes and seems as tough as the gw spray cans.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/09/24 13:07:45


Post by: Necroshea


I just started using brush on paint after getting sick of dealing with issues that popped up time and again with spraying, leading me to have to strip everything, reglue it together, and basically start from scratch minus the mold lines.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/10/09 15:37:21


Post by: Tzarkahn


Halfords Basic black spray.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/10/18 17:41:10


Post by: Spartan-Kun


krylon or wal-mart brand spray paint. I'm not too picky.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/23 10:36:55


Post by: Orkaswampa


matt black from halfords, think it's for cars but it works perfectly fine


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/23 14:06:44


Post by: Sprak


Has anyone tried Krylon Fusion? Link here. They say that they're designed for plastics and resins, so if nobody else has tried them, I'll give them a whirl, and see how they go. Nice variety of colours, and half the cost of GW primers. Obviously not as cheap as the Walmart brand that's been mentioned, but a range of colours to choose from.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/23 18:30:30


Post by: necrovamp


I don;t undercoat


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/23 18:32:03


Post by: Horst


I undercoat with Vallejo paint + Satin Varnish.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/23 20:49:43


Post by: Mr.Malevolent


Been using some cheap Krylon from Wally World recently. Works just as good as GW and is less of a strain on the wallet. Been thinking of trying Tamiya in the near future as well.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/24 00:58:57


Post by: IXLoiero95XI


Air brush with a black primer call panzer grey


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/24 03:14:43


Post by: NL_Cirrus


Unfortunately I'm limited to brushing on everything, *sigh* all my money goes to GW figs which leaves precious little for paint, and so my poor 'crons are forced to take Apple Barrel. :(


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/24 16:16:15


Post by: grayshadow87


Brush on. I like to use the undercoating step as a time killer when I have nothing else to do, so I brush on the undercoat to take up the maximum amount of time.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2011/12/24 22:47:25


Post by: templarsandorks?


I just use primer from my halfords


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2014/03/05 07:18:32


Post by: 40KNobz11


Always used GW chaos black!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2014/03/05 15:24:54


Post by: Boss Drachenfels


Vallejo primer with airbrush


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2014/03/11 22:26:03


Post by: Boba Fett


Vallejo light grey primer with an airbrush.


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2016/12/01 06:59:49


Post by: Howlin' Mad Murdrean


Chaos black primer followed by subsequent base coats


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2018/09/03 23:34:17


Post by: Pointer5


White rattle can all the way!!


How do you undercoat your miniatures? @ 2019/02/02 13:16:55


Post by: MFMONK


Airbush - zenithal black, grey, white.