I know this is dumb.

I have 2 Superheavies on order AND a Armorcast titan I've not put a lick of paint on.

But...



It looks so EASY...

The only question is how wide and how tall is the eagle from the shrine of the aquila?

Cause if I can't use that as my front then the whole deal is off.



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I think the Colossus is more what I was thinking of.

this could work, you might have to work on the scale a bit more, I would think the length would be more like 18 to 22 inches, also a bit wider than a standard superheavy, but the bits you have chosen to use seem like the logical ones to go with. I would use the afore mentioned kits, plus a lot of plasticard, maybe I would consider hacking up a couple of cereal boxes and makeing a mock up of the thing first, a very rough one, to get the proper size and proportion, that would give you an idea of how to proceed with the actual project.

Ah ha! I knew there had to be a picture somewhere that showed how it worked with other bitz.



Looks like it's 3 CoD/bastion walls tall.

So I can do leviathan sides that are 2 high and 3 long (3xbastion sets) then a top box made of CoD walls for the turret.

This can work...

It can work...


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And I'll have bastion bases left over to make a Goliath Mega cannon out of PVC pipes...

Certainly looks workable; won't it need a bit if widening though? I feel that right now it would be rather slim.

What do you intend to use for the tracks?

Definitely doable, I think.

Check out this thread on Warseer:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210040&page=5

Alpharius wrote:Definitely doable, I think.

Check out this thread on Warseer:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210040&page=5

I've seen that one before and I think it's splendid. It does rather prove my point though - just the temple front won't be wide enough.

THanks, that is truly an amazing model.

The width issue does not worry me too much, the Epic Leviathan was no wider than a superheavy. This will be 4" wide (eagle) plus an inch or two for the bastion bases and tracks.

I got bastion #1 today and will start mocking it up.

Dude you rock.

Ya know, if you got some PVC pipe, a goliath canon would be really easy to make.

Squats had the best Epic units ever. I've always loved the Overlord and Iron Eagle.

Platuan4th wrote:Squats had the best Epic units ever. I've always loved the Overlord and Iron Eagle.

I agree! They were my only Epic army; I just loved my egg-men.

agnosto wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:Squats had the best Epic units ever. I've always loved the Overlord and Iron Eagle.

I agree! They were my only Epic army; I just loved my egg-men.

The Land Train was... epic!

As was the Cyclops!

I miss the old Space Marine/Titan Legions game...

Hiya! New user here.

I'm working on the same idea. So far the bastion base is together, plus I'm using the Shrine idea and I think it'll work. For the treads I'm using 2 Baneblade kits, but with the armored sides the bastion base won't quite fit over it, but on top may work.

For the Doomsday cannon I was going to use the Stormlord gun; no PVC here!

I'll keep an eye on this thread to monitor your progress.

:-)

In the words of Jimmy:
H.. H.. Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/228835.page#551059

OK here's concept sketch 2



Basically I'll now use 3x Bastion kits and use the intact window walls from the Shrine to build the front tower.

Here's how the bastion looks so far.

Cool Beans. The only thing that doesnt look right is the door on the side. Either get rid of that or if Leviathans have transport, which the probably do, make it look more accesable and vehicle like. I wouldnt want to have to undo a huge breach door to dismount from a vehicle.

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what super heavy is that next to it?

I have seen this done Il have to see if my searchfu is strong today .


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boom searchfu on point !
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=15855

Grimm wrote:Cool Beans. The only thing that doesnt look right is the door on the side. Either get rid of that or if Leviathans have transport, which the probably do, make it look more accesable and vehicle like. I wouldnt want to have to undo a huge breach door to dismount from a vehicle.

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what super heavy is that next to it?

They do have transport (50 IIRC) usually a big hatch in the back. I put on the side door (it will get a ladder) because a tank this size with only one door is a bad idea and it looks tough enough to be an AV14 door.

The tank next to is my Storm Lord with guns from a Japanese kit instead of the wimpy little guns we get.

From what I recall, the tread-scale for a Leviathan was the same as a Baneblade, if you go by Epic size relations.

His completed work is amazing. I bookmarked that one to see how the rest of his concepts come to life.

Well I have almost my parts bought, should be able to finish it this weekend.

I cant wait to see this one done

good luck with that

My initial fear is that it's just going to look like Bastions with tracks. Gonna have to keep an eye on this project to see you prove me wrong.

You should make this a blog. Step by step, maynard!

Best of luck! I hope this comes out well!

Grrr... I was told today that the Shrine front is SIX INCHES WIDE, not 4...

This mucks up a lot of things particularly my use of the bastion bases.

We'll see when it arrives, hopefully tomorrow.


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Well the walls are done, just waiting for the shrine.

Just got the last of the bitz on ebay. And I found out the Springfield GW has an Apocalypse battle next weekend.

The race is ON!

You're crazy man. I'm happy if I can finish a warbuggy in a week and you're gonna finish a leviathan... Make sure to post pics! Do you intend to have it painted for the apoc battle, or just constructed? And how will you fix the width issue? Plasticard + COD bits seem like a good bet to me.

And knowing kk a huge skull.

sonofruss wrote:And knowing kk a huge skull.

No! What is this a chaos vehicle?

It's Imperial!

It'll have a huge eagle!

On the width problem I'm waiting for the shrine to arrive in the mail, at this point I'm thinking I will probably keep it 4" wide and have the eagle overlap 1" on each side. The bottom bases are angled and the floors on the top level are exactly 4" wide. Widening te structure wtih plasticard will make the whole thing less stable, less coherent.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Ok. A friend of mine is the one who made that, and that was just a dry test fit from what I remember. In any case, you'll have to dremel off one entire side of the Aquila Shrine piece for it to slot in nicely. And the eagle door is even wider than that (it's 3COD panels wide rather than 2COD panels wide).

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ok. A friend of mine is the one who made that, and that was just a dry test fit from what I remember. In any case, you'll have to dremel off one entire side of the Aquila Shrine piece for it to slot in nicely. And the eagle door is even wider than that (it's 3COD panels wide rather than 2COD panels wide).

Yep. I managed to trim a bit off the side to make it symetrical but great Space Emperor that was annoying.

So now I have the body of it, still waiting for the tracks.

Pics tomorrow.

Some progress yesterday.

Looking good. Using that kit makes the whole mobile fortress idea come to life.

You stumbled into a huge pile of WIN.
A great idea excellently carried out.
Finish this thing already

Tracks are done!



I do appologize for the blurry picture, but the time I'd seen I'd already taken the thing apart to do some more filing and sanding on it.

But anyway the thing is a beast, a @#$%ing beast. It makes baneblades look tiny. I can hide a chimera under the chassis. I have a cannon that can fire terminators out its barrel.



Here's a less blurry shot but with only one set of tracks.



The marine for scale is just a tiny blur.

This sucker is huge.

Looks good.

I may eventually have to copy you on that.

you don't half- step it when you get an idea, do you?!
great work as always KK!
2 questions:
what will the total points cost end up being?
what will the total weapon load out be?

Fly Lords of Terra have a datasheet at 1600 points but I've gone with a different weapons layout.

6x lascannon
6x heavy bolter
1x DOOMSDAY cannon (10" template, Str-D)
1x Volcano cannon (may downspec it to a vanquisher cannon)
3x Icarus lascannons

I'll run it through the old VDR rules and see what comes out.

I don't like the turret. I say stick the gun out of the window that's right under the bird head.

esinhorn wrote:You stumbled into a huge pile of WIN.

QFT!

That is an amazing looking vehicle you got there KK. I have to agree that the turret on top looks...wrong? I'm assuming you're planning to trim it down some so it actually fits in there and doesn't lean to one side. If that's the case, it will look much better IMO.

Call me crazy but the epic Leviathan had the same footprint as a baneblade. Leviathans can hold 100 guardsman, yours can hold alot more. Based on the epic model this is a more to scale depiction:


I like your model. I like the concept of Leviathan and Leviathan like vehicles. I know its a semantic arguement, but I wouldn't call it a Leviathan.

aka_mythos wrote:Call me crazy but the epic Leviathan had the same footprint as a baneblade. Leviathans can hold 100 guardsman, yours can hold alot more. Based on the epic model this is a more to scale depiction:


I like your model. I like the concept of Leviathan and Leviathan like vehicles. I know its a semantic arguement, but I wouldn't call it a Leviathan.

Yeah, I started with something much more reasonable, if you scroll up you can see the first concept sketch but GW fluff is all over the place. The original Leviathan was a tall baneblade but since then we've had things like a Gaunts Ghost book where the Leviathan has mutiple decks and elevators so I upsized.

I found someone who made one correctly scaled to the epic model but can't find it now. I did however find this:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/10/40k-project-log-leviathan.html



I'd honestly not seen it before but there you go. Nothing new under the sun.

I think from a fluff perspective it would be easy enough to assume leviathan isn't as much a specific vehicle as a class type of vehicles with in the Imperium. The Iron Hands use similar crawlers for each companies clan house, so their obviously ones bigger than the epic model. I tend to favor the design scaled to the epic models, because I find it more impressive to imagine a line of these moving across the field; an army having one for each platoon. Probably only the adeptus mechanicus would ever do that.

You should illuminate the model with LEDs and fibre optics. It would be fairly easy because you have a lot of space to work in.

You could also print transfers and make the gothic arch windows real stained glass. Put the transfers onto clear acrylic sheet.

Looks like a lovely job so far, the Shrine of the Aquilla screams Leviathan! Look forward to seeing it progress, I never quite got round to finishing my take on it from CoD and a couple of Baneblade kits.

Awesome job. Not to "hate," but has anyone else had a problem with the low trajectory angle of the hull cannon, seems the silliest part of GW original design?

aka_mythos wrote:Awesome job. Not to "hate," but has anyone else had a problem with the low trajectory angle of the hull cannon, seems the silliest part of GW original design?

No.

All Imperial vehicles vary from silly to very silly anyway.

The super-heavies are even sillier. It is the balls to the wall sillyness that amuses me about them. The sillier the better as far as I am concerned.

Clever work. Looking good, although it's possibly a little narrow...

hi.
(sorry my bad english.)
nice leviathan but i think it is to small. i´m building a leviathan too.

link to my leviathan:

http://www.gw-fanworld.net/showthread.php?t=102021

the pic´s at the begin of the tread are not the last stand.

many pic´s in the thread. you must search a littel bit.

Holy Balls! I thought his was big but man urs is huge!

Keep it in your pants boys! Oversizedness strikes again. The leviathan couldn't transport vehicles. That was the Capitol Imperialis.

K_K: If you ever feel ambitious, I found this step-by-step blog for the most insane thing I've ever seen

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq69/Dannage/Leviathan/DH_Lev_025.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/physical-modelling/66566-40k-scale-ig-leviathan.html&usg=__By9AmMRXx-0G8xgQCvz0S2xJXC0=&h=480&w=640&sz=41&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=VwzL8k1ldDakrM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLeviathan%2BCommand%2BTank%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den

If you feel gutsy after finishing this, I'm sure you could make the owners of Warlord blogs cry with one of these

w40ktank, that is brilliant, thanks!

I already know I'm not in the top league, not till I build 3 Imperiators. And buy a new house to keep them in...

Tonight's progress...



First off I installed the DOOMSDAY! Cannon. The DOOMSDAY! Cannon fires shells of weaponized DOOMSDAY! imported at great hazard from Planet DOOM!

To bear the weight I used 3 steel screws, so far so good.



And here it is, next the tracks, then some detailing.






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BTW who moved the thread, I went nuts trying to find it!

Nice, I can't wait to see what tihs turns out to be. Also, does anyone know hwo to convert a baneblade into a leviathan?

All these incredible leviathans, man I want to try and build one of these. I love how they're all different but all awesome and work. This is what is best about the hobby. Cheers!

the projekt starts since 28. October 2007, 16:00

i want to construkt it, like the storyline.

I have a suggestion!

Keep the inside empty / hollow
double it as a mini army transport case

All this makes me want to turn my entire gaming table into one. My battles could be waged across the top deck and everything.

Thats a Capitol Imperialis with extra guns, its even a little big for a Capitol.



A Leviathan is a taller, slightly wider Baneblade, this thing can transport Baneblades.

It really depends on what backgorund references you choose to follow.

The Leviathan as depicted in Epic was as you describe, it had a transport capacity of 6 stands (30 Guardsmen) with a wheel base only slightly larger then a Baneblade, thats what mine follows scaled up from the Epic Model in line with other similarly sized vehicles.

However much of written material on them (eg Gaunts Ghosts, the Ultramarines Novels, codex Armageddon) depicts them as far larger, vast mobile fortresses able to house vehicles, a landing pad and many many Guardsmen, hundreds at least, which on the face of epic background sounds more like a Capitol Imperialis. Some of that will be down to artistic licence, much as Warlord titans are often depicted as towering over mountains - yet are typically regarded as being under 50meters (47m?) tall in more specific references - but thats not to say it's simply a case of that, they are clearly often describing much larger vehicles.

Of course on the other hand there is moderation in the more recent background Tyrok Fields makes mention of several Leviathan's, it mentions a standard secruity detail on the Cadian vehicles of about a Platoon, the traitor guard swamping the Cadian defences by opening their rear hatches and allowing the full might of the massed infantry to move up through their Levaithans to assault the loyalist ones. This does'nt point to them have an overwealming transport capacity in the first place. More tellingly from my point of view though is mention of the loyalist Reaver Titans tipping the traitor Leviathans over - we have a model for a Reaver, we know how big it is, looking at the relative sizes I dont think theres anyway a Reaver could tip turn over something like w40ktank version, imagine the weight of it, but something smaller like my own example, definately.

Now thats not to say that w40ktank's is'nt a Leviathan, my take is simply that the Levaithan is simply a catch all name for a class of vehicle which is broadly similar in purpose but varies immensely depending on it's origin, some are larger more like a mobile fortress, some are smaller more of a mobile command bunker, ALL are Levaithan's - just differenet classes.

I agree with the "Class" assessment. I would guess that the size of these mobile fortress would generally follow the different unit sizes. From platoon upto to company, with sizes in between for different specialized formations. Base on function and support you could see them scaled for platoon sized, mechanized platoon sized, supply line support, vehicle recovery, mobile cathedral, and company command. It makes sense.

The Iron Hands would need one exceeding a company size to house and train each clan.

lovage, subscribed.

Hmmm that other one seems a bit TOO big, it sort of classifies as a capitol imperialis now.

vodo40k wrote:Hmmm that other one seems a bit TOO big, it sort of classifies as a capitol imperialis now.

I'm not begrudging you, everybody has posted before without reading the entire thread, the timing of this comment is just funny.

The class arguement makes the most sense. The only fluff problem I have with that is the STC factor. If they're all based off of the same template, they should all be very similar in terms of size, even if you account for different forges (I assume these are build by Mars), the titan varients are the same size, just different stylization.

Ah my bad, it can count as both.

jabbakahut wrote:The class arguement makes the most sense. The only fluff problem I have with that is the STC factor. If they're all based off of the same template, they should all be very similar in terms of size, even if you account for different forges (I assume these are build by Mars), the titan varients are the same size, just different stylization.

But Baneblade variants aren't. The Lucius and Mars patterns(the FW versions) are both slightly smaller than the Arkurion pattern(FW's name for the plastic model).

I'm not including the Armorcast version, as that's a different company.

jabbakahut wrote:The class arguement makes the most sense. The only fluff problem I have with that is the STC factor. If they're all based off of the same template, they should all be very similar in terms of size, even if you account for different forges (I assume these are build by Mars), the titan varients are the same size, just different stylization.

A fair point, the differences in models we're actually familiar are very minor in terms of size, Platuan4th suggestion regarding Baneblades is in that respect as much as it goes.

However that said I do remember very specificly a piece of background text describing a Space Hulk, it's annoying me that I can't think where exactly I read it, though I believe it may have been a WD issue, possibly relating to BFG which narrows it down a bit, but it could also be from a codex, I'll have to try an find the reference later. Anyway this piece of text includes note of the Adeptus Mechanicus getting very excited by the ships which make up the Hulk, as a number are of very similar design but of different sizes, part of the reason a boarding is attempted (against forces unknown) and that the Hulk which is one a collission course with I think "Helios Orbital" or something to that effect is not simply bombarded is too secure potential pre-Imperial STC data from these. It's a little vague, I'd interprit that as perhaps pointing that size is not consistant to an identifiable design with regards to STC based technology.

To put another take on it, take any modern car which also has a stretch limo version, or even a van, same basic vehicle, but bigger, and probably a number of different components.

Epic work KK, keep it up.

As to the scale of this beastie, I think that comparing old epic models to each other isn't gonna give us the best idea. Although I always thought that if its STC, it not gonna vary much, and that there are plenty of Imperial forces that have at least utilized non STC stand-ins. But hey, theres always room in the 40k universe for anyhting out of the ordinary.

Found the picture I remembered:



http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Miniatures/Leviathan/praetorian_project.htm

This one is perfectly in scale but just not something I wanted to build. Maybe one day I'll build a Cold Moon pattern Leviathan but for me it's a Heiankyo Pattern Leviathan.

Hmm - I wonder why people Cold Moon armed his Leviathan with Heavy Bolters? Working from the Ork and Squat Warlords datasheet for it (as the book was to hand), it had a Doomsday Cannon (check), a turret-mounted battlecannon (check), 6 Lascannon (can't see 'em) and then 12 Bolters (definitely not Heavy Bolters).

Weird.

Also, regarding troop capacity, it is meant to be able to carry 30 stands of troops - or 150 men.....

As a Squat fan, I'd also like to point out that the vast majority of Leviathans are supplied to the Imperium as part of a trade program between the Imperium and the Squat Homeworlds, so there's no guarantee it is an STC construct.

Dysartes wrote:... and then 12 Bolters (definitely not Heavy Bolters).

The same thing could be said of all Super-Heavies of the time. They had 'bolters'.

Now thats not to say that w40ktank's is'nt a Leviathan, my take is simply that the Levaithan is simply a catch all name for a class of vehicle which is broadly similar in purpose but varies immensely depending on it's origin, some are larger more like a mobile fortress, some are smaller more of a mobile command bunker, ALL are Levaithan's - just differenet classes.

SIGN!

sone peopel wants it bigger and some wants it smaler.

my size are the same like this one (from final liberation pc-game) look at the rhinos in front of the leviathan. i think my leviathan isn´t to big or to small...
my levi ist leviathan command-tank. all leviathan´s are oversized land vehicle!

Dysartes wrote:Working from the Ork and Squat Warlords datasheet for it (as the book was to hand)

SNIP

Also, regarding troop capacity, it is meant to be able to carry 30 stands of troops - or 150 men.....

I can't comment on that, I dont have access to that book, my reference of 6 stands comes from the Epic 40,000 Armies Book, which just highlights the differences even more.

As a Squat fan, I'd also like to point out that the vast majority of Leviathans are supplied to the Imperium as part of a trade program between the Imperium and the Squat Homeworlds, so there's no guarantee it is an STC construct.

Fair point, though I'm not sure if thats been ret-conned or not given Squats have been pretty comprehensively expunged.

w40ktank wrote:
sone peopel wants it bigger and some wants it smaler.

my size are the same like this one (from final liberation pc-game) look at the rhinos in front of the leviathan. i think my leviathan isn´t to big or to small...
my levi ist leviathan command-tank. all leviathan´s are oversized land vehicle!

And I'd agree with that, I've got the game and that picture myself, personlly I went off the model meanwhile, at work so dont have a convient scale shot to hand, but this is pretty useful showing the Leviathan, Baneblade, Shadowsword and the very back of a Capitol Imperialis.



And heres another featureing a Rhino, Landraider, Capitol Imperialis, Knight, Warhound Titan and Mk1 Warlord Titan.

Well BoLS Lord of Battles v.II depicts the Capitol and Leviathan at about the same size.

Col.Gravis wrote:

Dysartes wrote:Working from the Ork and Squat Warlords datasheet for it (as the book was to hand)

SNIP

Also, regarding troop capacity, it is meant to be able to carry 30 stands of troops - or 150 men.....

I can't comment on that, I dont have access to that book, my reference of 6 stands comes from the Epic 40,000 Armies Book, which just highlights the differences even more.

Ah, from the edition that abstracted away most of Epic's flavour?

Also, the same edition which gave an Imperator transport capacity of 8 stands?

Having done a little digging, I see that the Leviathan was given a transport capacity of 14 stands in Epic: Armageddon (in the Collector's Imperial Guard section - annoyingly, no stats were given for the Capitol Imperialis ), which would be about 70 men. Based on that, I'd guess it'd need to be a bit bigger than Kid_Kyoto's version, though I'm not certain by how much.

H.B.M.C - The blessed bolter, unrivalled in keeping the PBI from assaulting your tanks.....

Main structure is done, lots of detailing left but for tomorrow's game it's good to go.


The beast in all its glory


And the rules...



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Still time to add or change stuff to feedback is welcomed. I'm a bit concerned about the under carriage being too plain, and ideas?

Sorry, I just don't care for it as it turned out. It looks too much like you simply took Bastions and set them on top of some tank tracks. You need to mesh them together more somehow.

I would probably take out one of the Bastions, to bring the tracks closer together and try to take off the front of one and back of the other and make them into one set of longer tracks. After that take off the "ground" levels of the Bastions so they're less Bastion-like, and most just walls. At the very least do something with that door so it's less of a hazard, walking out into thin air.

Here's a quick, horrible Paint job of what I would do to it...

The doors are getting balconies and ladders and the rear door is getting a staircase.

Moving the track units to the sides might work but then I'd really worry about them sheering off...

Still it is worth a thought.


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y'know I'm giving this more thought and side-mounted treads might work.

I could drive screws from the inside of the bastions into the sides of the treads. It would sit closer to the ground and look wider and less top-heavy.

The only problem is if it does not work I'll have ruined the model.

Wow looks nice finished. I'd suggest adding a walkway/parapet to connect the tracks and the upper structure. I deinitely see Aduro's point about the two looking stuck together, but I also believe that the fact that the bits are still very recognizable is responsible for that. What bugs me is the space between the track units, those definitely need to be filled up. Maybe add some suspension or some engine stuff over there? But still, that's mere nitpicking; great model, and let us know how it did!

I have to agree with Aduro. It still looks like the concept stages. There is a lot of filling you should do. Especially bulking out and making the bottom look structurally feasible. I don't see how you can ruin the model, just take your time and plan out what you want to do and how to make it sound. The great thing about models is they're easy to change (before paint at least). Shows promise, just don't give up too early.

14,14,13 armours?!?!?! Theres like freakin windows in it and you are giving it 14! no big tank like even has 14, i would say 13,12,11

(._.) wrote:14,14,13 armours?!?!?! Theres like freakin windows in it and you are giving it 14! no big tank like even has 14, i would say 13,12,11

Yes, but by saying that you also display your ignorance of all things Apocalypse

How about scavenging a big ass toy tank for treads instead?

person person wrote:How about scavenging a big ass toy tank for treads instead?

I know that's what a few Leviathan makers have done but I had no luck.

I checked Toys R Us and target before I started, the largest tanks I could find were 12" and this is close to 20". Thanks though.

I've followed advice and added a walkway where the doors are, replacing the tiny balcony I originally had. Pics tomorrow.

Man, that Starwars sandcrawler is like 200 bucks, but that would be a perfect frame to base something like this off of.

Some more work done on my snow day.

Mostly work on the doors.

For the side hatches I'd originally planned a tiny access platform.



But after comments here it became a longer walkway.



The back also got a platform and staircase.



Oh and I'm adding more Tallarn to my IG armies.



Almost 1 am, sleep or paint more Tallarn... tough call.

Looks good. You going to do something with that imperial door on the back?

I really like it. It is a mighty addition to any side in an apoc battle. How did it do in the game you played? I reckon another advantage of it is that its not a titan, meaning that people don't give it too much attention or credit, so you can get on with dropping doomsday shells on them while they try to glory hunt by taking out titans.

Do the baneblade track sections swivel underneath the leviathan? If they do you could add some cool cogs and open machinery to reflect that on the lip of the tracks that extends out.

Keep up the great work kyoto!

I have to say, in a way, it looks awesome, but in a other way, it looks so top-heavy that a single large blast from a baneblade cannon or even a battle cannon would topple this leviathan over.. I strongly recommend to move those baneblade tracks from underneath the hull to the sides..

I would recommend a frame or something similar around that door on the back if possible, something simple would do.

I would say keep the tracks as they are, a vehicle like that needs to have some height off the ground. I would suggest a "skirt" of some sort around the open gaps, nothing major, maybe 1" to 2" long hanging down.

After seeing some of your previous work, I dont really need to say but I like hearing my..er reading myself...forget it, just greenstuff the gaps...sigh.

Last bit, I think the overall dimensions are great and accurate, but for general use, I would knock it down a level...really a tough call.

Great job keep up the good work!
But what color are you painting it?

Thanks all, feedback really does help.

I will be green-stuffing the gaps, they bug me too.

The rear door will get a frame around it. The whole CoD tile would not fit so I have to build something out of plasticard.

Covering the hull gaps is also a priority, I might use CoD floor tiles or some industrial scaffolding I have. I have to play around a bit.

I also like the idea of side-mounted tracks but they worry me. Right now all the stress on the model is straight down, once I put the tracks on the side I change how the stresses work, the tracks might sheer off or the whole model might split down the center.

Keep in mind the main body is not a single unit but dozens of separate wall tiles held together by 1mm contact points plastic glued together. If it was a wood box with bitz on the outside I'd be more confident in side-tracks but for the model I have I feel more confident with everything stacked rather than praying the tracks stay anchored to the sides. I did give it a lot of thought though.

Pivoting tracks... again great idea but I worry about the integrity of it. Besides I imagine they just rotate them in different directions.

THe painting plan is grey, red and black with brass on the icons and other details. Same color scheme as my tanks.

finally read this thread, and have to say I am feeling this model. Great work looks cool.

If you wanted to mount the tracks on the side, I would suggest running thick plastic or wood rods along the bottom or through the structure that would give it some strong support. I would say 3-4 rods per pair of tracks.

You could always take the bottom off, then reinforce the inside and stick the bottom back on.

Personally, unless i would plan to play Leviathan-ball i would not worry one bit about side mounted tracks (in accordance with a little reinforcement and a good dose of glue).

It does look like you've built the hull, then just set it down on top of some tracks. There's no... substance... to its hull beyond that. It's awkward.

I've got to agree with H.M.B.C. on this one, there really is no continuity the design. I can see orks running around with a miniature city strapped on wheels, but not marines...

I will see if I can do a bit of shooping to show you how you could make it look a bit better.

Stick in a load of internal bracing with plastic card over the joins and plastic girders to give everything some structural strength.

Here is a simple shoop of what I think the base should look like generally.

That would look much better, and would be easily achievable.

yeah as you have , i think it looks funny. Side mounted tracks would look much better as at the moment it looks so top heavy. But i think you have done an awesome job the superstructer looks terrific.

Empchild wrote:finally read this thread, and have to say I am feeling this model.

So you're the one.

Could you at least wipe it off when you're done?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Empchild wrote:finally read this thread, and have to say I am feeling this model.

So you're the one.

Could you at least wipe it off when you're done?

he's touching it!

on a serious note, i think i'm liking the tracks underneath the superstructure, instead of on the sides. if anything i would would fill in the areas between the 2 tank chasis somehow. just a thought.

Wrexasaur wrote:Here is a simple shoop of what I think the base should look like generally.

Wow, good stuff. I really need to learn photoshop.

I'm back home and adding some plasicard to fill out the bottom then will decorate with skulls and other madness. More pics soon.

Disregard the scale quibbles! This is gorgeous.

And here's the weekend update!

I beefed up the front with some plasticard, forgeworld brass eagle and some dozer spikes.



I also named it.

I went through a few names, such as one celebrating my Hispanic heritage 'El Blow-Upinator' and the simple but descriptive 'The Beast' but in the end tradition won out and I named it for a Transformer - Fortress Maximus!

I tried to find plastic letters I could glue on but had no luck, hopefully these stickers will stand out enough when I paint it.



As many people recommended it got walkways on the sides with access ladders for disembarking infantry.



It also got a hunter killer missile and will get a pintle heavy bolter. Why? Well if I'm spending close to 2000 points on a tank, why the heck not.

"Lord Militant, the forces of the Archenemy approach. Shall I arm the DOOMSDAY! cannon?"

"Yes by all means, but first let's give them a taste of the hunter killer missile and pintle-mounted storm bolter."

Anyway, next steps are more details, banners for the sides, gargoyles for the back, structure for the bottom. Then, with luck painting!

the pieces you added to the sides really helped, imo.
and i couldn't agree about the HK and the pintle mounted heavy bolter!
hell, put the fuzzy dice on the rearview mirror (monitor?) for 2000 points!

Looks tons better.

I think that if you do put banners on the sides, you should make it look as if each is of a different regiment, showing that the Leviathan has served over many other regiments.

Also, If it is 2,000 points, then those fuzzy dice should be upgraded to fuzzy grenades!

Will you be able to paint it?

Ehm.... where's the pintle-mounted bolter? I can't see it. O_O

Owain wrote:Ehm.... where's the pintle-mounted bolter? I can't see it. O_O

+1 WYSIWYG I tells you!

On a more serious note: it looks a lot better now; all the pieces look more integrated. Will the HB be for AA purposes? If yes, the roof is the perfect place. If not, 36" range means you'll barely reach the ground .

I like that sick 'dozer grill, "just mow 'em over!"

You make this thing look incredibly easy. I may have to attempt this as a reward when I get my Guard up to, say, 1500pts

Finally returning to this project after some real-life and modeling distractions.

First some good shots to get an idea of the size.







I also kit-bashed 'Lord Militant Omar Hideosh' to command the beast.



The tech priests are doing the final adjustments before I start painting.



Of course just when I think I'm done guess what finally arrives...



Each one will be at least baneblade sized but will need conversion and Grimdarking.



sigh...

Leviathan's looking good, that big steampunk tank looks like it has some potential.

yeah, whats the new tanks for?

That cannon is so big. Seriously.

Qualude wrote:That cannon is so big. Seriously.

That's what she said.

First! Woot!

KK, great job. By far the best thing you've made so far. Keep posting. You are inspiring me to get off my butt and start building.

ender502

That's one great looking Leviathan KK. Much better than the one of BolS. The long cannon on top looks a bit weird though. Couldn't you use a shorter one?

I've got to agree with the crowd (?) here - the cannon on top might look a lot better if it were significantly shorter.

Qualude wrote:That cannon is so big. Seriously.

that's what she said!



Seriously I'll give a thought to shortening it.

Or you could put some sort of indirect fire weapon up there instead.

So the painting has finally begun...







And now for an unsolicited testimonial!

that's gotta be the most slowed thing I have ever seen. fail - Warboss Narznok

It's really the warm support of Dakkites that helps keep me going.

Really coming along, would look great in a diorama or display window.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Grrr... I was told today that the Shrine front is SIX INCHES WIDE, not 4...

This mucks up a lot of things particularly my use of the bastion bases.

We'll see when it arrives, hopefully tomorrow.


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Well the walls are done, just waiting for the shrine.

Is that a chair in the background or a Tyranid breeding orfice?

Agreeing with jabba, paint the inside of the D-cannon black too.

Some constructive critisism: Kyoto, why your modeling looks really cool most of the time, your painting skills seem to be sub-par. That's okay, so does mine. But I found a way to cover up this issue: the new washes!
Try out some of them, maybe badab black for the fortress and blue what's-it-called for the windows. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

Looking top-notch mate. Lovin' the Lord Militant, too! Drybrushing will really crisp up the beast as a whole.

I'll have some more Leviathan pics soon, with luck it will be used Sunday for the 'nid apoc game.

In the meantime I've done some more armor to go with it.





Hulls are LR Demolishers, turrets from a Soviet armored car then guns made of tubing and Pegasus chemical plant kits. Stoage is from various model kits and IG accessory spures. The Warstore's Battlewagon bitz is selling Demolisher hulls and turrets (no guns) for $25.

Since these are vanilla russes I wanted them to look a bit more low tech next to the demolisher and plasma russ.

Anyone need 2 demolisher turrets, no guns?

An alternate version from the (ever amazing) Work in Progress forums.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=15855



and another from the same thread

Nice too see some Russes with reasonable sized battle cannons!

Hi dude, just found your model randomly and wanted to give you a big thumbs up!

Awesome stuff. I was also nicely surprised to see a link to my own thread by someone. *blushes* I think the most useful part of my thread wasn't my model though, it was the first post with links to three other Leviathan threads! Now, after reading your stuff, I have six links in there, including this one. Who knows, at one point we'll have to get together a core list of all the Leviathans and insane people out there!!

Anyway, enjoyed reading this one enough to sign up to Dakka just to tell you.

Dannage.

Dannage wrote:Hi dude, just found your model randomly and wanted to give you a big thumbs up!

Awesome stuff. I was also nicely surprised to see a link to my own thread by someone. *blushes* I think the most useful part of my thread wasn't my model though, it was the first post with links to three other Leviathan threads! Now, after reading your stuff, I have six links in there, including this one. Who knows, at one point we'll have to get together a core list of all the Leviathans and insane people out there!!

Anyway, enjoyed reading this one enough to sign up to Dakka just to tell you.

Dannage.

Glad you found it, you're from the WIP forums? I was going to post a link back here but couldn't remember my password.

And the stuff there is so good I feel ashamed putting in my kit bashes.

Anyway off to take Fortress Maximus (actually Fortress Minimus since I had to trim it to a 1000 points) for a spin!

Nope, mine is the Volpone Leviathan from Warseer.

Oh yeah, I saw that one.

Out of curiosity how do you transport it?

I was luck to find a wood box big enough for mine.

The whole model has come on a treat. Nice work. You defiantly need to drybrush that monstrousity with a 3" brush. And a litre of badab will go down a treat!

A thought: try tamiya smoke on the windows of the leviathan. It'll add depth and shade plus gloss at the same time. Smells foul, mind you.

I'm suprised by the size of the Leviathans in the community. When comparing Epic models the Leviathan's footprint isn't much larger than a Baneblade. But perhaps the plastic/resin Baneblade is slightly undersized.

Is there a size chart available that compares these as was done with the Stompas?

All of these posted above look amazing Keep going, Kid Kyoto!!

Lick butt on the levathian!

Howard A Treesong wrote:I'm suprised by the size of the Leviathans in the community. When comparing Epic models the Leviathan's footprint isn't much larger than a Baneblade. But perhaps the plastic/resin Baneblade is slightly undersized.

Is there a size chart available that compares these as was done with the Stompas?

If you read through the thread there is much debate of size, try page 2

KK, after I finished the model, I bought some wood and we built a case for it. Even though the model breaks down into 8 or so separate sections, the case was large enough to only just fit in the car, when the seats were down!

On the topic of size, I agree that the remakes are much bigger than their epic counterparts. I was very deliberate in my design to state that I wasn't making the old one, I was reimagining and updating the premise as a whole.

For the most accurate and to scale leviathan I've encountered, I recommend you review Colonel Gravis' model. It's pretty much spot on, in my opinion.

Hey KK, if you are still looking for a home for those turrets I wouldn't mind getting my hands on them. I can offer cash, bitz or some hands on painting help. I don't mean to imply that you can't paint, but rather to explicitly say your painting of your own models dishonors them.

Well after 1 year I've still not used the thing in a game or finished painting it. Funny how enthusiasm can just fade one day.

I brought it last week to Dakka Con but the Apoc game was canceled.

But tomorrow there's an Apoc game nearby so I figured that was my big chance.

Here's the thing, I left it in my car in sub-freezing weather with a bottle of glue on top to remind me to fix it.

And then I brought it back inside.

Today when I looked at it...



Yes.

The glue had exploded and turned the top into grey sludge.



I thought I could scrape it off but it's melted right through the roof plates. It's still soft and warm too.

I think I'll try and green stuff it into a crater.

Ouch, sorry to see such a nice model damaged! Have you consider add a small elevator or control tower or something on top instad of the crater? Because if you start adding battle damage, a single crater won't do IMO

Cold weather can make glue explode?

I have to write this down somewhere.

Yeah, damage.

So a couple of years back I made my first VDR superheavy, a plague tower of Nurgle. It was embarrassingly bad so I won't show it here.

The first time I took it out a Falcon pulled up, some Fire Dragons walked out and blew it to hell on turn 1.

Well this time...

I put it out, aimed it at a pack of 3 baneblades and get ready to go.





My DOOMSDAY cannon shot unfortunately scattered off the table (or part of the template did and I was told that means the whole template missed), doing no damage. The Vanquisher cannon was a clean miss. So all I got was a few las cannon hits on some Broadsides which were all taken by sheild drones.

Then on the bottom of turn 1...


2 Tau Tigersharks...


and a Tyranid bio titan thingy managed to blast off it's void shields and get it down to 1 structure point.

And then...




20 Wraith Guard and 3 Wraithlords flank marched, popped up behind it and killed the thing.

Sigh...

I hate Apoc. I really do.

But then again my infantry were allowed to recycle so they can in behind the cheesy Eldar Cheese Guard and gave them 10 rapid firing plasma guns. So that did make me feel a little better.

Ow... damn. I guess on the plus side you got to shoot it, though how did baneblades get shield drones?

Oh, and I think the blast markers only count as scattering off the table if the center hole is off, but I don't know for certain.

If it helps you in any way, the thing still looks totaly awesome.

The problem with Apocalypse is that it still follows the "GW Rule of Three":

One is none. Two is one. Three is too many.

But, if it helps any? Your scratch-built/kitbashed Leviathan was, clearly, the superior Apocalypse item on the tabletop.

Be proud.

--B.

Wehrkind wrote:
Oh, and I think the blast markers only count as scattering off the table if the center hole is off, but I don't know for certain.

Wehrkind is correct on this. As long as the center hole is still on the table, the blast still has an effect.

The Leviathan (Colossus?) looks great. I haven't seen one of those on a table in Apoc yet.

As for getting blasted so soon...three turns of Apoc is like a lifetime for a Mayfly. Come to think of it, there's Apoc games where I thought a human lifetime had passed before a turn was over.

You can be proud that everyone came gunning for your model.

Y'know we actually asked about whether it was the hole or the edge that had to be off and the other side swore it was any part of the template.

Lying traitor scum!

But my ego is justly salved. Thanks guys!

Used it again last weekend, history almost repeated itself when 5 dreads flank marched in but it managed to scurry away with 1 structure point and then held that entire flank for the rest of the game.

Good times.











Now to start on the Armorcast reaver...

Stil an incredible impressing piece you've got there, Kid.

But what kind of tank is that Superheavy with the two barrels?

It's a storm lord with some guns from a Japanese kit replacing the usual tiny ones.

Are you from the future?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Used it again last weekend, history almost repeated itself when 5 dreads flank marched in but it managed to scurry away with 1 structure point and then held that entire flank for the rest of the game.

Good times.

Amazing force... very inspiring

"What the Feth!" Inquisitor Kuroda ejaculated loudly! "Don't tell me 50 Wraithguard marched on from the table edge and blasted my Leviathan again! I mean seriously, how does that count as a 'strategy'? It's cheating pure and simple."



"Aw come on sir, it's Apocalypse it's all about crazy fun stuff happening."

The Inquisitor spun and planted his Daemon Blade beneath the guardsman's chin.

"Not another word Counts-as-Marbo, Not. One. More. Word."

"Actually m'lord this is just shipping damage from bringing the Leviathan to Trinidad. We're only seeing it now because we never got around to opening the box it was in."

"Oh. Thanks Baron Nimitz. Well what are we going to do about it?"

"Well first we need to do something about those damn dreads and Wraithguard coming in behind us. I suggest we adopt a strategy known to the ancients as 'bubble wrapping'. We shall surround the Leviathan with guardsman so that no one can approach within 12"."

"Bubble wrap?!" The Inquisitor ejaculated loudly. "We'd need like a million billion guys! This thing is huge."

"Actually sir I think we can do with just a 100 guardsmen."

"100, a million billion, either way where are we going to get them?"

"Ebay, swap shop, the bitz box, you'd be surprised."

(several weeks later)



"Where the hell did you get this many guys?" The Inquisitor ejaculated loudly. "Did you raid every brothel in Necromunda?"

"Actually most of them are redemptionists, so we got most of them by promising free fuel canisters. Now we can begin stage two."

"Stage two?!" The Inquisitor ejaculated loudly. "I thought we just had to glue the front back on and all the other stray bitz that fell off."

"Yes m'lord, as you know there have been consistent complaints that this leviathan is too thin and top heavy, plus the fact the main gun is not on a turret had been a significant disadvantage. So let's use this time to really remake this thing, make it a really awesome leviathan."

"Hmm..."

"Tell you what, let's just start some of the repairs and if you don't like how it's going we can stop."

"Well... OK."

(5 minutes later)



Yep, it's back, Fortress Maximus Mk II is go! It'll be 1/3 wider have a turreted main gun and other improvements. I'm going to try and reuse as much of the Mk 1 as I can though. Already it's being a challenge but I think it's a good little way to celebrate a 5 day weekend.

I can't help but notice that your Inquisitor's nether parts must be very sore from all of that ejaculation.

man... i am really thankful for that superheavy been torn apart... otherwise such a fine and promising project would have escaped me... now i can be as close as can be and i am watching your every move... and taking notes...furiously...! you bet!

oh and merry assemblings-mas

Briancj wrote:I can't help but notice that your Inquisitor's nether parts must be very sore from all of that ejaculation.

Ask any voice coach and they'll tell you the occasional loud ejaculation is good for the diaphram.

Viktor von Domm wrote:man... i am really thankful for that superheavy been torn apart... otherwise such a fine and promising project would have escaped me... now i can be as close as can be and i am watching your every move... and taking notes...furiously...! you bet!

oh and merry assemblings-mas

Thanks Viktor but I've seen your galleries and believe me I have nothing to teach you!

Anyway the two main obstacles here will be plasticard and paint.

Even though this whole project is supposed to a simple matter of glueing together existing kits they don't always combine correctly and need lots of plastcard to cover gaps, add support and replace floors. One reason it was so narrow was so I could use the bastion floors for it and because it was hard to get plasticard long and wide enough for it. So now I'm ignoring my earlier wisdom and doing it in a country where I can't get plasticard and it will take a month to ship from the US.



Maybe I'll stop by the hardware store and see what they have that might work.

And paint, at least acrylic modeling paints, just can't be gotten here and my paints are not in great shape after being hauled around the world a few times. I got some more last time I was home but I worry about running out of a critical color.

We shall see...

looking good man. Cant wait to see the rest of the re-fit!

Nice, rebirth of a great project. Or I guess this is recycling. I wish I could just bust out a weekend of building. This gives me inspiration, I haven't been in the hobby for over 2 years now.

An overhaul on the leviathan hey?

Cool, I'll tag along, this should be fun...

Especially with all the loud ejaculating to distract the work-force..

Well looks like I am late to the party. I'll just join in by saying this is a great project and everything looks really cool. Love your IG too. Good luck on the refit.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


Thanks Viktor but I've seen your galleries and believe me I have nothing to teach you!

Anyway the two main obstacles here will be plasticard and paint.

Even though this whole project is supposed to a simple matter of glueing together existing kits they don't always combine correctly and need lots of plastcard to cover gaps, add support and replace floors. One reason it was so narrow was so I could use the bastion floors for it and because it was hard to get plasticard long and wide enough for it. So now I'm ignoring my earlier wisdom and doing it in a country where I can't get plasticard and it will take a month to ship from the US.



Maybe I'll stop by the hardware store and see what they have that might work.

And paint, at least acrylic modeling paints, just can't be gotten here and my paints are not in great shape after being hauled around the world a few times. I got some more last time I was home but I worry about running out of a critical color.

We shall see...

well...there are those that would argue that working with cardboard or plasticcard would be a way of cheating just these above mentioned problems

if you are indeed as your flag shows stationed in trinidad? then for more materials i would advice maybe the cardboard as earlier mentioned or try to get recycling junk from food packages...but i think cardboard would be the best substitute ...glued with superglue i think you will overcome your suply shortages in no time...

and well... i just have a thing for super heavies... and yours is totally up my alley

merry merrynesses to all of you

Love(d)? the Leviathan man. Makes mine feel a little inadequate. Since you're enlarging it ,will it become a Capitalis Imperialis with a transpo capacity of 100? any ways ...we are watching you....

Totally forgot about this tank KK. Good to see it again.

"Double yu-Tee-Eff!" Inquisitor Kuroda ejaculated loudly. "Some minor repairs you said! A few modifications! What in the name of the Emperor's DVD collection did you do?"



"Well sir, we found we needed to do a bit more work than originally anticipated..." Lord Militant Omar Hideosh explained. "But we're making excellent progress. For example you may recall the 'Wraith Guard Incident"..."

"50 Zombie Space Elfs walking in behind us and zapping us with 50 wraith cannons from inside our void shields... yeah i remember it."

"Well if they try that again..."



"They'll get a taste of our new rear mounted heavy bolters!"

"Rear mounted heavy bolters? you are aware that zombie space elfs have a 3+ save right? I mean if we're already spending 2000 points on one tank why not give it a weapon people will respect, plasma cannons or assault cannons?"

"Oh... but you see according to the fluff-"

"According to the fluff this is supposed to be this huge invincible war engine and not the sort of thing that gets taken down on turn one!"

"We'll uh, see what we can do. In the meantime we're about to lay down the main deck, care to see?"



"Oh-Em-Gee!" Inquisitor Kurodo ejaculated loudly! "It's huge!"

"33% wider than the original" Tech priest Sony explained.

"However keep in mind that it is just a thin sheet of plasticard." Tech Priest Samsung began. "We need to make sure no one tries to put a whole metal 2nd edition IG ar-"



"This is awesome!" Inquisitor Kuroda ejaculated loudly. "I can fit like my whole 2nd edition metal Tallarn army up here and have room left over my Necromunda gangs!"

"We'd best start reinforcing it" Tech Priest Sony finished.

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Well progress continues, it took a surprisingly long time to get this far manhandling bitz and pieces to fit together and stay together.

The main deck will get Icarus lascannon mounts and some other bits and bobs as well as an impressive door I just finished painting.

One thing I'm doing differently this time is actually painting as I assemble. this beast is much too big to build then paint like I did last time.

Great to see you back at this KK, and your commentary is as amusing as ever

And that thing is huge!

i love your colorful story around this build... but i can´t help thinking that the thoughts of yon inquisitor are not that far away from the truth...

bolters are of course a first god step... but what about installing some nice and hot flamers? wouldn´t that be nice too?

also... since the bolters are the first line of defence for your backdor so to speak.... some more backfacing means of hurt on some higher level wouldn´t...er... hurt too...?

oh... the new sponsons by the way appear to be round in shape? while your earlier sponsons on the side are more angular/ trapeze shaped... intentional?

but don´t get my sour sounding comments to confuse you...i damn well love your work!

more of it... you truly are a battle poet^^

This is friggin hilarious! Glad to see er back up and running as well

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

bolters are of course a first god step... but what about installing some nice and hot flamers? wouldn´t that be nice too?

Yeah... I thought about swaping all the bolters for something with a bit more umph, plasma cannons or assault cannons for instance but in the end I wanted to keep with the Epic stats for it. Besides it will have 100+ Guardsmen inside with flamers and plasma and the like, as well as hell hounds and chimeras and other tanks flanking it. So it should be fine.

also... since the bolters are the first line of defence for your backdor so to speak.... some more backfacing means of hurt on some higher level wouldn´t...er... hurt too...?

I actually kept the rear with lower armor (AV12) and weapons because I wanted there to be a tactical dimension to taking it down. If someone can get behind they deserve some reward. of course that was before I knew about the 'march on from the back' strategem in Apocalypse.

oh... the new sponsons by the way appear to be round in shape? while your earlier sponsons on the side are more angular/ trapeze shaped... intentional?

The sides are bastion walls which come with little cylinders for heavy bolters. For the rear I just used the cylinder in a normal window, both to show the lower armor... and cause I'm out of bastion walls.

Yeah, there's a reason ALL of the turrets on my Ordinatus are Lascannons.

Oh the commentary just kills me! Great work so far, can't wait to see the (new) finished product.

"What do you mean it's not square!" Tech Priest Suzuki ejaculated loudly! "How can it not be square?"



"It seems that the Shrine of the Aquila pieces when arranged in a 3 sided box one side is 1/8 of an inch shorter than the other." Tech Priest Sony replied.

"Didn't anyone check?!?"

"Um..."

"Well..."

"We were kind of happy that it held together without falling apart."



"Well that's nothing to do about it now." Tech Priest Suzuki concluded. "I shall have to perform the Rite of Honda Kiri and throw my self under a passing CRV. Farewell cruel world! May my parts be recycled in a more worthy vessel!" (exit stage right, sound of shrieking brakes and an impact, screams, sirens, people running)

"Well now what?" Tech Priest Samsung asked. "We're already a week behind schedule! Inquisitor Kuroda will have our Bucky Balls!"

"Yeah, Honda Kiri is looking pretty sweet right now huh..."

"Maybe he'll be distracted by this way cool Eagle and lettering?"



"We can only hope."

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So yeah... a 3' long model and the damn thing is an 1/8 of an inch off. AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH! So I finally added some plastic rod to the back to even out the sides and hope no one (but me) notices...

Sometimes I hate GW terrain.

and hope no one (but me) notices...

well... thankfully you didn´t tell the world about this...oh...°o°


well... i am still unable to cut worth a damn after all i built already... seems the big companies are no better...sad part is always that the stuff i make...no one has to pay for

what i´d do know for the upper deck... add lots of details... stripes and plates... cables and whatnot.... this smoothness of the surface is a bit unnatural for such big vehicles methinks...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

and hope no one (but me) notices...

well... thankfully you didn´t tell the world about this...oh...°o°


well... i am still unable to cut worth a damn after all i built already... seems the big companies are no better...sad part is always that the stuff i make...no one has to pay for

what i´d do know for the upper deck... add lots of details... stripes and plates... cables and whatnot.... this smoothness of the surface is a bit unnatural for such big vehicles methinks...

It is but once it's covered with crew it will look a lot different. I use models as damage counters and remove them as it loses structure points.

Hmmm, I should add some shield toting guys to mark off the void sheilds...

Anyway I still have to add the AA guns as well.

I use models as damage counters and remove them as it loses structure points.

ah, i see... have you got pics of those models counts as structurepoints?

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

I use models as damage counters and remove them as it loses structure points.

ah, i see... have you got pics of those models counts as structurepoints?

No good ones, you'll see the two robed tech priests lurking in the background of some shots, and the Lord Militant but I need to do a group shot sometime.

IIRC it's the 2 tech priests, the lord militant, 2 RT era cyborgs and a commissar. Then usually he heavy weapon team from embarked squads so I remember to fire them. Now I'm going to add 6 guys with shields to serve as void shield counters... So the top deck will be packed.

ah... i see ... thought you would use converted minis for these jobs... i imagined them looking a bit like IG with those fancy tesla backpacks like big meks...




but i guess whatever woks for you...

Not a bad idea... but no just guys with shields numbered 1-6.

Maybe next time.

well... this idea has to be paid of course... so many force field bitz.... i bet this would be hard to come by anyway^^ ... but for my own needs i think i will adopt one day to this marker idea of yours...

"What the #$%% is this?" Inquisitor Kuroda ejaculated loudly!



"Um what sir?" Tech Priest Sony asked nervously.

"That!" The Inquisitor demanded indicating with his howling moaning daemon sword. "That 1/8" gap in the corner there!"

"Oh yes, we meant to tell you sir, a few elements of the Leviathan are.... not quite square."

"What do you mean 'not quite square'?"

"I mean they're about an 1/8 of an inch off."

"Sir I doubt anyone would even notice I mean the model is 9" wide and over-" But Sgt Counts-As-Marbo's words were cut off along with his head.

"I'll notice." Inquisitor Kuroda scowled.

"Sir we've made progress in correcting for the problem." Tech Priest Samsung offered hopefully.



"The rear doors are now perfectly square."



"Hmm..." Inquisitor Kuroda rumbled.

"And we've got the blocks in place for the Icarus las cannons!"



"Yes..." Inquisitor Kuroda said softly.

"As you can see they hold all 3 anti-aircraft guns securely. No Space Elf fliers are going to shoot up this baby."



"I see..."

"With your approval we can now add the bottom hull and start work on the engines. Of course unless you want us to tear it apart and start again. I mean that's fine too."

"No, no, as Sgt Counts-as-Marbo said on a model this size who'd even notice. Slap some green stuff on it, paint it to look like battle damage and let's get this thing done."

"Yes sir, of course sir."

"Oh and have someone clean up that mess."

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And so it goes. My options were tear it all apart and start over, knowing that I don't enough plasticard to replace what I destroy, or keep on keeping on.

So I'm keeping on.

I fear that in another 2 or 3 years I may find myself building a Colossus. If I do I'm going to use Pegasus terrain damnit.

I desperately want to play an Apoc game as your team-mate.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I fear that in another 2 or 3 years I may find myself building a Colossus. If I do I'm going to use Pegasus terrain damnit.

Well, a Colossus is pretty much the same size, so I wouldn't worry.

If you find yourself building a Capitol Imperialis or Hellebore, then it is time to worry...

Poor Sgt Counts as Marbo

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
"What the #$%% is this?" Inquisitor Kuroda ejaculated loudly!

Wait, he did WHAT?!

If I do I'm going to use Pegasus terrain damnit.

i call that a lesson well learned... and for learning you usually have to pay a fee...

also... poor marbo... i guess he will be off far better... look at all the other protagonists of this little play... all this elongated ejaculating... it´s bound to raise even more problems...*handing sony and samsung some tissues*

This is very impressive. I dont really like the Epic Leviathan model, but I love your Apoc one!

I wish I had the skills to do anything like this. Hats off to you sir!

Can't believe you took that beauty apart! Can't wait to see the new and improved Leviathan completed!

"Well!" Inquisitor Kurodo ejaculated loudly "This was supposed to be done January 1! Where is it?"

"Well sir there were some problems with the tracks" Tech Priest Sony explained.
"And then there were problems with the bow" Tech Priest Samsung added.
"Plus we had a lot of work this week"
"And working on the Leviathan cuts into time spent downloading [redacted] on the internet"
"But we've made some progress!"



"Great Emperor's baby pictures... It's... huge" The Inquisitor ejaculated loudly.



"Right now sir the main areas left to be done are the rear and side platforms"
"The new platforms will be longer and wider than the old ones"



"Good, good. I see my decision not to lop your heads off paid off in the end."

"Yes sir."
"We are glad as well."

We are glad as well

so say we all

it is shaping up pretty well atm... one minor question... the underside...will you bulk it out a bit? not only for structural reasons... i fear the tracks might come off due to movement and such things... but also because the tracks should somehow have a connection to engines and transitions and so on... atm there is just a hollow underside... specially the front is from the upside good looking but the first pic shows it is only a sort of rainprotection

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

We are glad as well

so say we all

it is shaping up pretty well atm... one minor question... the underside...will you bulk it out a bit? not only for structural reasons... i fear the tracks might come off due to movement and such things... but also because the tracks should somehow have a connection to engines and transitions and so on... atm there is just a hollow underside... specially the front is from the upside good looking but the first pic shows it is only a sort of rainprotection

To be honest no plans right now. I always worry about putting more weight on the bottom (which is only held to the rest of the tank by a 1mm strip of plastic cement) and once the platforms are in place the only time anyone will see it is a worm's eye view like that shot.

There are things I could do, like pipes and fuel tanks, but it will have to wait for the next big revision on this.

Cool stuff Approved!