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Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/09/19 15:12:57


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Replying to another thread we stumbled upon on T9A forum, let it be clear please that the Forest Goblins are coming and they will be pitching the next project for more unique armies. :-)
We are heavily working on them (dismissing concepts left and right!), as some of the feedback we received is that they didn't "feel like a complete army". Well, they will be, and if for some reason we don't unlock everything, we'll still give them adequate support.

Right then.... Here's one of our visions for the "light cavalry" of the little green fellas, we will probably first see the "heavy" cavalry version though on the project SG line. These below have been designed in mind as a full plastic kit (both mounts and riders).



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/12 09:34:55


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We are getting pretty close now although schedule is pretty tight.

Fantasy and Sci-Fi female paladin armies to be released end of the month, so preorders should start getting out pretty soon.
Thank you all for your support, it meant a lot to us.



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/12 14:33:47


Post by: Gallahad


Wow, very nice looking tank. Grim gothic in every detail.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/12 17:36:22


Post by: Sentionaut


Yes, that is fantastic - i will absolutely be picking one up once they're officially released!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/12 17:42:03


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I'd still like to see how the sprues are going to be laid out.

I could still probably be talked into pre ordering...


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/12 18:21:09


Post by: Mr Morden


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
We are getting pretty close now although schedule is pretty tight.

Fantasy and Sci-Fi female paladin armies to be released end of the month, so preorders should start getting out pretty soon.
Thank you all for your support, it meant a lot to us.



Looks great - looking forward to my preorders


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/29 17:08:53


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


The Sisters of Talliareum have been revealed, next we will be showing off the Sisters of Faith.
Pre-orders go out first as promised, regular orders follow.
Due to the recent tragedy that struck near us we have encountered a 2 week delay, we appreciate your understanding of the situation.

Thank you.





Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/29 17:51:33


Post by: Gallahad


If anybody is feeling generous and can take some screenshots of the video that would be great! I'm at work and can't watch the video.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/29 21:19:43


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I'll do the best I can with my iPad and old person brain.

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Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/29 21:20:42


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The cowled heads look amazing. I hope there are enough for every body.

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Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/29 21:22:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


And I may have to get some Griffintropi to get down and dirty with my Basilean Palace Guard Ogres.

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Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/29 22:11:37


Post by: Gallahad


Thank you Bob! Those are looking very good. I like the hooded heads as well!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/10/30 14:04:29


Post by: Gallahad


Those are some really nice paint jobs on those Sisters. Give my compliments to the painter.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/01 15:45:16


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Bob
12 hooded versions and 10 non-hooded for a total of 22 heads per set. We pulled out 4 heads to replace with 4 weapons as that was the feedback we received for our Shieldmaidens, too many head versions (17x2 for a total of 34 per box) and not enough weapon options.

@kestral
Thank you.

@Gallahad
We will! :-D


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/01 17:44:50


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


How many Sisters in a set? 20?

If there are only two extra heads per 20 miniatures, will you be releasing a sprue or resin upgrade set to provide more options to keep sets from feeling samey? Will the Shieldmaiden heads fit the Sisters' bodies?

You probably made the right choice, though. Heads will be easier to swap between ranges than arms with weapons.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/01 23:33:15


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
How many Sisters in a set? 20?

If there are only two extra heads per 20 miniatures, will you be releasing a sprue or resin upgrade set to provide more options to keep sets from feeling samey? Will the Shieldmaiden heads fit the Sisters' bodies?

You probably made the right choice, though. Heads will be easier to swap between ranges than arms with weapons.


20 Sisters per set, both for the fantasy and sci-fi versions. Shieldmaiden heads fit perfectly as long as you trim the bottom part of their neck.
Next week we confirm the reveal and regular orders of the Sisters of Faith army.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/06 18:09:57


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Tomorrow (if all goes well and no new surprises arise) we preview the sci-fi army.

In the meanwhile, the two female paldin armies have arrived at Shieldwolf HQ.





busy, busy, busy... :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/07 16:07:23


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Fantasy army assembling... science fiction army ready to disembark.
Once again thank you all for your faith and support, we are trying our best.





Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/08 10:49:56


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Sisters of Faith, the first ever female space paladins featuring hard plastic multi-part infantry models along with a full range of heroines, characters and heavy vehicles.

Thank you once again for your faith and support.




Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/08 11:05:56


Post by: Mr Morden


Looking forward to getting mine

Looks ace


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/09 07:23:35


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Thank you Mr. Morden! :-)
The complexity of the kits certainly doesn't allow these for novice hobbyists but at the quality and price tag we provide (plus the numerous options included on the sprues) we are certain it's going to be very good value for money.
Not to mention we covered a gap as our supporters requested.



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/09 08:31:41


Post by: Schmapdi


Nicely done all around - but those tanks are fantastic looking. Kudos.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/09 17:04:02


Post by: Gallahad


Looks like you guys really packed the sprues. They look great. The tanks are particularly good. Congrats.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/09 17:11:51


Post by: lord marcus


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Sisters of Faith, the first ever female space paladins featuring hard plastic multi-part infantry models along with a full range of heroines, characters and heavy vehicles.

Thank you once again for your faith and support.




Are these released? How much per no


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/09 18:33:41


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Have we seen photos of the sprues yet? I want to see!

I'd like to order some in the near future but it's always nice to know what I'm getting into.

Plus I'm curious how well they'll mesh with the shieldmaiden bits...


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/10 12:46:30


Post by: StygianBeach


Yeah i am quite excited about getting some Sisters of Tal.

My daughter and 2 of her friends have built and painted some Shield Maidens and it would be nice to give them another similar option.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/10 16:08:52


Post by: Gallahad


 lord marcus wrote:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Sisters of Faith, the first ever female space paladins featuring hard plastic multi-part infantry models along with a full range of heroines, characters and heavy vehicles.

Thank you once again for your faith and support.




Are these released? How much per no


I don't think they are available for retail yet. They are first going to send boxes to their backers.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/11 05:07:40


Post by: vizier


Are there more pics of the tank parts?
It’s unclear to me how the main body assembles and whether the other tanks also come with a dozer blade and torches.

 lord marcus wrote:

Are these released? How much per no

http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=83


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/11 13:19:48


Post by: willb2064


Love the forest goblin wolf riders. Is that going to be another KS?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/11 22:03:40


Post by: Original Timmy


willb2064 wrote:
Love the forest goblin wolf riders. Is that going to be another KS?


Yes they are once the pre-orders are out the way, Julys update

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-forest-goblins/posts/2235321


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/12 16:15:49


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We will be uploading a video of both sci-fi and fantasy.
Here we are showing photos from the Talliareum sprues, we trust people are going to find the assembly options pretty ample for both Sisters of Talliareum and Sisters of Faith.
Once again we have worked with the English company Renedra so please expect the quality to be similar to our previous plastic kits.





Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/12 18:33:04


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


I really like the tanks and the fantasy ogre/matriarchs, but I'm a bit confused about the syfy ogre/matriarch, and I'm really confused about those birdmen (birdwomen) ^^.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/13 09:53:57


Post by: Binabik15


The tanks are tempting and will likely stay tempting even once those other sci fi nuns hit. Finally a flamer that might satisfy my heretic-burning needs.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/13 10:49:10


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Some parts of the videos are not so good due to the video itself been shot by a cell phone camera and not so in focus.
We hope it gives the general idea though of what we have created. Currently we have 2 out of 4 members in bed, so the other two of us remaining are trying our best to answer questions and inform as much as possible.
Apologies for any inconvenience.

Thank you.

Sisters of Talliareum




Sisters of Faith





Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/15 11:09:40


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


More close ups as requested of the first of our series of vehicles from our new sci-fi range.
Needless to say that the better the paladins go, the faster we can release the wolf and dragon versions :-)







Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/15 11:15:20


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


Sweet, I like the quite brutal look. This feel massive, very in-your-face, no subtlety, quite suitable for religious fanatics .
[edit]Also how can I learn how to do the effect on the lights on the front of the tank? Works pretty well![/edit]


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/15 11:36:56


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Hybrid Son
We like using good quality paintjobs for our range (and not just lazily putting up a render or the unpainted miniature, sure, it saves on costs but it's unprofessional/amateurish in our opinion and we don't work that way).
You can look up and ask Petros DirtyBrushes from FaceBook, the painting studio we chose to deal with the tanks. These were our first ever sci-fi vehicles and we really wanted to do them justice; we are very pleased with both the result and the acceptance from the sci-fi community whom we had never dealt with before.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/15 12:40:40


Post by: Mr Morden


Thats a mighty fine model and paint job!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/15 13:56:03


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
You can look up and ask Petros DirtyBrushes from FaceBook, the painting studio we chose to deal with the tanks.

Thanks .


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/11/20 16:06:01


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


According to our calculations today, everything will have been mailed by next week.
Thank you.


(What a "Laura" bundle looks like, free shipping worldwide was included in this offer.)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/02 00:14:31


Post by: Sacredroach


Got mine today! No idea yet how to post pics, but I uploaded a bunch much of images of a box set into my gallery, so take a look if you are so inclined.

Looking forward to having money again to buy more and a few tanks.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/05 02:21:00


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Mine arrived. They look very sci-fantasy, in that the bodies, arms, shoulder pads, and helmets are shared among the sci fi and the fantasy sprues, in a similar fashion to old Mantic minis. I think it works, but I imagine that fantasy players who want a more grounded aesthetic might have an issue with the armor design.

The weapons are really cool! The bolters are more "true scale" for human minis, which will be great for conversions. The swords and hammers are fancier than what you would find in a historical kit, great for heroes. Unfortunately, the helmetless heads are pretty bland. I will probably try to replace some of them with some Eccentric Minis helmets, some of Mantic's new MaA helmets, or some Sheildwolf Shieldmaidens heads.

The bodies seem to be on the larger side, a plus for me but not for some, and the poses are dynamic. The detail seems pretty clean and sharp. It may be quite some time before I get to assemble any, but I'll post pictures when I do.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/06 11:57:01


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We are seeing the paladin kits being tampered with, some using also goodies from their Shieldmaidens kits(s).
Here are some posted on Facebook combining stuff from 3rd parties also. Conversions are after all a great part of our hobby! :-)













In the meanwhile we are going to let December go by and then move on to our next Kickstarter for fantasy, "War is Coming: Reinforcements"!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/06 16:59:03


Post by: Original Timmy


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
We are seeing the paladin kits being tampered with, some using also goodies from their Shieldmaidens kits(s).
Here are some posted on Facebook combining stuff from 3rd parties also. Conversions are after all a great part of our hobby! :-)

Spoiler:












In the meanwhile we are going to let December go by and then move on to our next Kickstarter for fantasy, "War is Coming: Reinforcements"!


Nice looking conversions.

What happened to the Forrest Goblins KS?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/06 17:24:32


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I secretly assembled a few of the sisters when I should have been sleeping. Here are some scale photos.

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Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/06 17:31:06


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


My advice from building these four: carve out some more neck space from the torso halves or else cut down the neck. The back does not fit perfectly flush against the front of the torso without some cutting; instead I used thick glue to fill in the gaps, but they are still noticeable if you look for them. The arms are not labeled, but more than the bend of the elbow, the style of wrist attached to the weapon is what really matters to the pose.

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Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/07 12:18:22


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 Original Timmy wrote:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
We are seeing the paladin kits being tampered with, some using also goodies from their Shieldmaidens kits(s).
Here are some posted on Facebook combining stuff from 3rd parties also. Conversions are after all a great part of our hobby! :-)
Spoiler:










In the meanwhile we are going to let December go by and then move on to our next Kickstarter for fantasy, "War is Coming: Reinforcements"!
Nice looking conversions.

What happened to the Forrest Goblins KS?


The KS preview page should be up for public view/feedback next month.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/07 22:12:39


Post by: Albertorius


They look pretty nice on the whole, tbh... but man, those shoulder pads kill them for me. It is freaky how much better do the Sisters of Silence ones look on them.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/07 22:38:32


Post by: Original Timmy


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
 Original Timmy wrote:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
We are seeing the paladin kits being tampered with, some using also goodies from their Shieldmaidens kits(s).
Here are some posted on Facebook combining stuff from 3rd parties also. Conversions are after all a great part of our hobby! :-)
Spoiler:










In the meanwhile we are going to let December go by and then move on to our next Kickstarter for fantasy, "War is Coming: Reinforcements"!
Nice looking conversions.

What happened to the Forrest Goblins KS?


The KS preview page should be up for public view/feedback next month.


Ok cool, so you just changed the campaign name, is the KS just for forest goblins?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/08 00:06:30


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I wonder what the shoulder pads would look like upside down. I suspect they would look a bit like Space Marine shoulder pads, but daintier.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/10 15:40:36


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Albertorius
We have already sculpted and should be making additional optional pauldrons available in the next weeks via our webstore.

@Original Timmy
The campaign starts with the Forest Goblins, if the campaign doesn't fund, then they are not happening.
We will be happy if the project simply funds. ZERO chances of cancellation (since some people see it differently from us and it isn't doing anyone any favours apparently); this is do-or-die for the little green fellas.
If we go further, we have more goodies for the Forest Goblins but also optional hard plastic sprue upgrades for the Shieldmaidens, plastic srpues for halberds for the Sisters of Talliareum, heroes, Krumvaal, warmachines etc etc.

Another difference is that a preview page will be made available next month for direct input from our supporters. This will be like 2-3 weeks before launch.
Thank you in prior for taking a look, we hope our work pleases you! :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/10 18:47:57


Post by: Original Timmy


Ok cool fingers crossed they fund


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/10 21:40:44


Post by: Albertorius


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@Albertorius
We have already sculpted and should be making additional optional pauldrons available in the next weeks via our webstore.

Interesting, thanks for the heads up!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/11 17:52:40


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Albertorius
We did what the Community asked us, but now we plan to support the sci-fi range.
Wolves and Dragons will come next.

@Original Timmy
We'll start showing images soon but in our opinion it's the preview page that's going to show off what we are up to.

In the meanwhile we are in Christmas period and have to complete all the female paladin packagings.



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 08:01:58


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We would appreciate your input... :-)



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 09:45:44


Post by: Theophony


I’m not a fan of the sword at all. Sorry. The rest of the model is using found stuff, feathers scraps of cloth and wood for shields, but then a huge (for the size of the model) metal sword? If there was only one or two per frame for a captain then I could see it as a looted item, but if it’s for every goblin it just seems to break the mood of the model.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 09:49:53


Post by: Herzlos


I'd expect a goblin sword to be pretty rusty, they aren't known for using new, well maintained equipment.

I can't say I'm a fan of the sword either, it just doesn't look like something anyone would really use.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 09:56:48


Post by: Albertorius


Bewtween the two I'd choose the rusty look...

But I agree that the sword doesl't really look like it belongs. I'd prefer to see something like a macuahuitl with metal instead of obsidian, for example. That would show a lack of metal and the will to make do


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 10:42:26


Post by: StygianBeach


I am also disliking the sword, I think it is over-scaled.

I think half the width would be better, but as previously stated an iron sword looks out of place, perhaps a stone axe would fit better?

Also, I think the head is a tiny bit too big.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 14:29:30


Post by: Yodhrin


Rusty. But I'm mostly interested in size comparisons to existing Goblin models from elsewhere.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 15:11:37


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 Yodhrin wrote:
Rusty. But I'm mostly interested in size comparisons to existing Goblin models from elsewhere.


We'll have these made available too.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 20:14:47


Post by: Gallahad


Yes, please change the sword. Go with a rusty sword of you must, but small axes would fit the theme much better.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 20:32:51


Post by: skullking


Rusty seems more appropriate. Though, as many have mentioned, forest goblins seem a bit too low tech to have metal swords, at least, not ones that nice (rusty or not, it was well made from the look of it). I supposed they could have looted it, but for a little goblin, that would be a pretty heavy weapon. Wooden spears, and cut glass & stone seem more appropriate, but, that's just me. I suppose you could have the sprues set up to make forest as well as 'common' goblins, which would make the sword much more understandable.

Glad to see you're going to give the forest goblins another go, I was sorry that last KS with them didn't finish.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/20 20:39:10


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I still think these Confrontation goblins had the right amount of tech when it came to weapons.



Cutlery tied to sticks. Perfection.

They should absolutely have garbage tier weapons cobbled together from junk.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2018/12/21 08:33:47


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 skullking wrote:
[...] I suppose you could have the sprues set up to make forest as well as 'common' goblins, which would make the sword much more understandable. [...]


Our background stories have the 'common' goblins and the Forest Goblins as a one single faction.
In times of war the 2 goblins factions would exchange some weaponry between them, but most of the weapons we have for the Forest Goblins are indeed low tech/primitive/scavanged.
All goblins however hate everyone else (especially humans and Orcs), and serve as a mercenary faction for gold is always welcome. Nasty and greedy folk nonetheless.

We have a different army planned for the 'common' goblins as a SG (thus they will have a separate plastic kit). They are master engineers and have created some awesome tech kits.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/01/04 16:24:30


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Today we were supposed to show the second of many teasers/works we have prepared for our Goblins Kickstarter.
It won't be today either, as we are taking a whole week of leave.
2018 ended with the worst possible way.



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/01/04 18:32:33


Post by: Sacredroach


τα θερμα μου συλληπητηρια.

The loss of a father's guiding hand takes time to heal.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/01/05 15:19:02


Post by: Gallahad


My condolences. I wish I knew what else to say.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/01/05 20:08:47


Post by: Theophony


My condolences as well. I lost my father in July. His birthday, thanksgiving and Christmas were all really difficult to handle without him.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/01/14 11:35:29


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We appareicate that guys. Time is the only medicine we are going to need for this.
In the meanwhile, life goes on. We are now moving forward (with a couple of weeks out of inital schedule) with the Goblins Kickstarter, which helps pull our mind from the recent events.
We will be posting images and info of the new project every few days for the next month, plus making available a preview page of the project late this month to get better feedback.



Thank you.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


This time every kit starts with every option available.
Forest Goblins, Common Goblins and Sci-fi Goblins. Here we are showing some of one handed weaponry planned for the Forest Goblin kit.



Thank you.


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Post by: StygianBeach


I love the Bone and the Knife. Swords are still a bit Chunky for my tastes though.


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Post by: NAVARRO


Looking good cant wait to see the full sprues.


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Post by: skarsol


Any word on those Arachnopeople?


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


skarsol wrote:
Any word on those Arachnopeople?


We are looking on how we can have them done in plastic. If we don't succeed, there's going to be the release in resin.

Here are a couple more of the one-handed weapons.



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Post by: Gallahad


I like the wide swords, but you shouldn't give much weight to my opinion since I'm not a goblin fan.

I think the mallet is oversized and at least needs a longer handle.


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Post by: Perfect Organism


Any chance of a size comparison next to other popular manufacturers' goblins?


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Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Or even the Shieldmaidens or Sisters- at least with only Shieldwolf figures even that would give us a good baseline of what size to expect.


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Post by: Yodhrin


 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Or even the Shieldmaidens or Sisters- at least with only Shieldwolf figures even that would give us a good baseline of what size to expect.


Nah I'm gonna want to see actual gobbo-on-gobbo action.


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Post by: MattW


There’s always *something* about shieldwolf’s minis that puts me off. These weapons just don’t fit with primitive forest goblins imo. Needs more flint (and a little less exaggerated size).


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Post by: Theophony


They must be ugly (or self conscious about their looks) as each picture has them blocking their faces with shields.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Perfect Organism @highlord tamburlaine @Yodhrin
We'll make comparison pictures available with miniatures from other manufacturers.

@MattW
First let me thank you as we appreciate the interactiona dn feedback. The relaunch is way better prepared compared to the first project; this time we have sculpted everything that will be included in the final sprues so things are crystal clear, apart from us augmenting the cofunding of the project itself. I think you'll be pleased to know there's an abundance of primitive looking weaponry, but we also took care of adding abbandoned, looted, broken weaponry to capture the essence of the Goblins arming themselves with whatever possible. If it's good enough to kill, it's good enough to bring to the battlefield.
If this doesn't convince you, hopefully the common and/or sci-fi goblins will have better luck, but Forest Goblins were promised first and we always keep our word.

@Theophony
Lol! :-D


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Wartoad cavalry... we find it, errr... fitting! :-D



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Post by: Sarouan


Hope these toads don't jump, otherwise they will be rider-less pretty quickly.

Idea is neat and an easy way to have all sorts of cavalry, but the small "howdah" would look better on a beast that is more heavy and straightforward, like giant crawling insects or four legged lizards.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Actually there was quite some discussion on the design of our wartoads. In the end we opted for a more generic take on their saddles, given these can be used with miniatures from other brands too.
Spoiler:

Plastic wolf cavalry of the Drotts (Common Goblins) will instead have the same designs we had shown in past.

The howdah is indeed directed exactly as you say: " it would look better on a beast that is more heavy and straightforward".
Our Mountain Orcs, Drotts (Common Goblins) and Drottchins (Sci-Fi Goblins) all have their own separate beasts with howdah. Here's a sneak peak :-)



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Post by: Da Boss


If there was a "rail" in front so you could model the goblin holding on, it might look more convincing. Impressed with these miniatures, I think I will be putting an order in.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 Da Boss wrote:
If there was a "rail" in front so you could model the goblin holding on, it might look more convincing.

If others think the same, that can be a very very easy insertion to the already sculpted miniature.
 Da Boss wrote:
Impressed with these miniatures, I think I will be putting an order in.

Thank you!


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Post by: Huginn


To be pedantic, frogs jump, toads walk, so your goblin is pretty safe.

Having said that, I don't particularly like the platform, a saddle would look more natural I think. Or ride bareback, it's basically a squig based beast is it not?


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Post by: powerfrog99


Jumping or walking, as long there are Goblins riding them I am fine ;-)

I am really waiting for this Kickstarter :-)


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@powerfrog99
Thank you.

Less than 4 weeks left...



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Post by: ScarletRose


I think that goblin is compensating for something. That's a huge sword/lance.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


All types of weaponry will be included in the kit this time.
Here are some of the spears and bows too.



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Post by: Azazelx


Firstly, and most importantly - my condolences. I'm not on Dakka much anymore, so I just saw this now.

On the goblins, sadly, my trust and "like" for Shieldwolf was severely eroded by the way that you guys handled the whole Sisters thing. Particularly the reluctance to show people what they would actually be getting for their money aside from random renders of random parts, many not even shown here. Which is why I didn't pre-order.


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Post by: Sarouan


 Azazelx wrote:

On the goblins, sadly, my trust and "like" for Shieldwolf was severely eroded by the way that you guys handled the whole Sisters thing. Particularly the reluctance to show people what they would actually be getting for their money aside from random renders of random parts, many not even shown here. Which is why I didn't pre-order.


Well now you can just order the sisters and see exactly what you will have. Happy ?

Coming back to the goblins, the weapons look indeed big for goblins but I'll reserve my final judgment when more pictures will be revealed. Maybe it's just the angle here, after all.

Liking the howdah !


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Post by: Azazelx


 Sarouan wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:

On the goblins, sadly, my trust and "like" for Shieldwolf was severely eroded by the way that you guys handled the whole Sisters thing. Particularly the reluctance to show people what they would actually be getting for their money aside from random renders of random parts, many not even shown here. Which is why I didn't pre-order.


Well now you can just order the sisters and see exactly what you will have. Happy ?


I'd say you missed the point, but I know you're entirely aware of it and just chose to make a snide remark. It was, however, valid feedback to Shieldwolf and something I'd hope they can bear in mind with future campaigns, whether they be actual Kickstarters or "pre-orders".



Coming back to the goblins, the weapons look indeed big for goblins but I'll reserve my final judgment when more pictures will be revealed. Maybe it's just the angle here, after all.
Liking the howdah !


Here I agree with you. I'd take it a step further and suggest that if the whole "looted weapons" is going to be a thing, then instead of designing the Goblins in what appears to be a vacuum with large, cartoony but haggard weapons, the "looted weapons" could actually include many of the exact weapon designs found on the Shieldmaidens, the Sisters, the Mountain orcs and so forth - including the concept art for the other future races and factions like the "Male" barbarians, etc - and you can of course still damage them up a little if required.

But, to use another tabletop gaming example, a 40k Ork with a Space Marine Bolter, IG Lasgun, Shuriken Catapult, Leman Russ Tank, clear has the looted thing going on because you can see that the weapons have a different origin to the standard "Orkish" style. If Tallareum is going to have its own unique fantasy ecology of races with heir own unique looks of weapons, arms and armour then why not use those designs as the basis of "looted weapons"? Doing so would help to give your world its own internal consistency. Of course not all of their weapons would have to have an obvious origin, but, well, "looted" should take some note of who they were looted from.


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Post by: MattW


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:


@MattW
First let me thank you as we appreciate the interactiona dn feedback. The relaunch is way better prepared compared to the first project; this time we have sculpted everything that will be included in the final sprues so things are crystal clear, apart from us augmenting the cofunding of the project itself. I think you'll be pleased to know there's an abundance of primitive looking weaponry, but we also took care of adding abbandoned, looted, broken weaponry to capture the essence of the Goblins arming themselves with whatever possible. If it's good enough to kill, it's good enough to bring to the battlefield.
If this doesn't convince you, hopefully the common and/or sci-fi goblins will have better luck, but Forest Goblins were promised first and we always keep our word.



Thanks for taking the time to write your reply. I think the primitive weapons look like a tech level much closer to what I had in mind, and that’s great to see, but they’re too big for my tastes (I know this is going to sound a bit like goldilocks-style complaining on my behalf). Those spear tips are the size i’d expect a goblin great weapon to be, even given heroic scale. Hope for your sake that this project appeals to enough others though!


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Spoiler:
 Azazelx wrote:
 Sarouan wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:

On the goblins, sadly, my trust and "like" for Shieldwolf was severely eroded by the way that you guys handled the whole Sisters thing. Particularly the reluctance to show people what they would actually be getting for their money aside from random renders of random parts, many not even shown here. Which is why I didn't pre-order.

Well now you can just order the sisters and see exactly what you will have. Happy ?

I'd say you missed the point, but I know you're entirely aware of it and just chose to make a snide remark. It was, however, valid feedback to Shieldwolf and something I'd hope they can bear in mind with future campaigns, whether they be actual Kickstarters or "pre-orders".

We know how fondly you've supported our company in the past, and the appreciation will be remembered even if the support does not continue. That said, the quote above is a highly unfair accusation Azazelx, which I could never let it pass uncommented. Let's not confuse integrity with what you are saying above. Did the company have enough money to fund 6 armies instead of 2 (actually 7, if we count the Warmaidens)? No. Did we create them all the same? Again, (obviously) no. Why? Well, simple, we don't have enough funds, that's why we went to Kickstarter in the first place. Did Shieldwolf Miniatures lose money in all this? Hundreds of hours of work, sculpts we paid for but have never been put into production (therefore still not returned a single dime), banners spread all over for 2-3 weeks in major sites, etc etc. Oh yes, you bet we did. Did the company secure that not a single backer lost theirs? Yeah, we all know the answer to that. We sure did, it's an undisputed priority. Nobody has ever lost money backing our projects. It means something to us. We call it integrity and it will escort us as long as we exist. Perhaps we have different definition on what integrity is. Fair enough. To each their own. But being accused of not delivering something we never took money for or for producing something we said we didn't have money for...? Nope. It has never happened! :-)

Spoiler:

 Azazelx wrote:

Coming back to the goblins, the weapons look indeed big for goblins but I'll reserve my final judgment when more pictures will be revealed. Maybe it's just the angle here, after all.
Liking the howdah !

Here I agree with you. I'd take it a step further and suggest that if the whole "looted weapons" is going to be a thing, then instead of designing the Goblins in what appears to be a vacuum with large, cartoony but haggard weapons, the "looted weapons" could actually include many of the exact weapon designs found on the Shieldmaidens, the Sisters, the Mountain orcs and so forth - including the concept art for the other future races and factions like the "Male" barbarians, etc - and you can of course still damage them up a little if required.

But, to use another tabletop gaming example, a 40k Ork with a Space Marine Bolter, IG Lasgun, Shuriken Catapult, Leman Russ Tank, clear has the looted thing going on because you can see that the weapons have a different origin to the standard "Orkish" style. If Tallareum is going to have its own unique fantasy ecology of races with heir own unique looks of weapons, arms and armour then why not use those designs as the basis of "looted weapons"? Doing so would help to give your world its own internal consistency. Of course not all of their weapons would have to have an obvious origin, but, well, "looted" should take some note of who they were looted from.

We have designed 12 major races and another 15 mercenary factions. We haven't shown but a fraction of what our world consists of. Some of the spears are from the Maagrats (rat people, mercenary faction) and some others are from the Warriors of Gluttony (heavy armored warriors; Undead, a major race) with whom the Goblins border to the East. The Goblins themselves are a mercenary and not a major race also. But we have stopped promoting our game as much as we wanted to after the huge shoutout we received in our Orcs vs Shieldmaidens Kickstarter, where people had no interest (or even missed entirely!) that they were funding a game and not simply miniatures. Until the miniature range isn't much larger, we dare not go back to that. That's also where additional funds are found, some people have no idea what good quality artwork costs and we are certainly sparing no expenses on that.


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Post by: Sarouan


 Azazelx wrote:

I'd say you missed the point, but I know you're entirely aware of it and just chose to make a snide remark.


It was more meant as a joke, to be honest. I didn't pre-order the sisters as well - though it's mostly because I had way too many sisters from GW at that time and didn't want to start another new army while I have so many projects still on the fire.


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:

We have designed 12 major races and another 15 mercenary factions. We haven't shown but a fraction of what our world consists of. Some of the spears are from the Maagrats (rat people, mercenary faction) and some others are from the Warriors of Gluttony (heavy armored warriors; Undead, a major race) with whom the Goblins border to the East. The Goblins themselves are a mercenary and not a major race also. But we have stopped promoting our game as much as we wanted to after the huge shoutout we received in our Orcs vs Shieldmaidens Kickstarter, where people had no interest (or even missed entirely!) that they were funding a game and not simply miniatures. Until the miniature range isn't much larger, we dare not go back to that. That's also where additional funds are found, some people have no idea what good quality artwork costs and we are certainly sparing no expenses on that.


Thanks for the explanation, it makes indeed more sense that way ! True, when you see those goblins, some people (including myself, I admit) have other famous forest goblins in mind and tend to "expect" the same design by default. Your choice is honorable and it's indeed sad to see that trend. A lot of backers on Kickstarters do not know what is behind the projects, especially the real costs - and some just expect to have as many miniatures as they can for the lowest price. It goes to a stupid point sometimes, with vocal people claiming they know The Truth and make unreasonnable demands. I hope this Kickstarter will go well for you, but yeah, I kinda expect that kind of reaction nonetheless.


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Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I said I would post some pictures of sisters with their shoulderpads flipped space marine-style, and I meant it.

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Post by: BobtheInquisitor


And here they are without shoulderpads.

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Post by: StygianBeach


While I will get some of these girls sometime, I still wish the hammer heads were half the size.


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Post by: BobtheInquisitor


I personally find the larger hammers fit the not-GW aesthetic better, but I can see your point. Although it's a drag, it should be fairly straight forward to clip off the heads and replace them with hammer heads from historical kits. They also have a mace and a torch that are less massive, although not enough to equip more than a few of the sisters.


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Post by: Azazelx


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:

We know how fondly you've supported our company in the past, and the appreciation will be remembered even if the support does not continue. That said, the quote above is a highly unfair accusation Azazelx, which I could never let it pass uncommented. Let's not confuse integrity with what you are saying above. Did the company have enough money to fund 6 armies instead of 2 (actually 7, if we count the Warmaidens)? No. Did we create them all the same? Again, (obviously) no. Why? Well, simple, we don't have enough funds, that's why we went to Kickstarter in the first place. Did Shieldwolf Miniatures lose money in all this? Hundreds of hours of work, sculpts we paid for but have never been put into production (therefore still not returned a single dime), banners spread all over for 2-3 weeks in major sites, etc etc. Oh yes, you bet we did. Did the company secure that not a single backer lost theirs? Yeah, we all know the answer to that. We sure did, it's an undisputed priority. Nobody has ever lost money backing our projects. It means something to us. We call it integrity and it will escort us as long as we exist. Perhaps we have different definition on what integrity is. Fair enough. To each their own. But being accused of not delivering something we never took money for or for producing something we said we didn't have money for...? Nope. It has never happened! :-)


For some reason you've attempted to put a rather large paragraph worth of words and various accusations in my mouth that I didn't say. All the "fund six armies two armies integrity" is just irrelevant warblegarble as it is entirely unrelated to what I said. I'd appreciate it if you would take your own advice and not accuse people of saying things that they did not say. .

While I am aware that English is not your native language, I'm also aware that your staff members' English is consistently excellent on here, so I usually treat you guys as though you were native speakers. In case there was some confusion, however, I'll restate my complaint - whicj is actually nothing to do with the aborted KS campaign, but the "pre-order" campaign that happened later for the Sisters.

I did not like the way that during the pre-order period you were incredibly reticent and reluctant to show off meaningful renders, of models, parts, heads, sprue layouts, etc while soliciting people's money in a contact of the designs being pretty much done. Instead choosing to show occasional piecemeal renders of parts and also the occasional render of a whole-model from an incredibly odd perspective, often a forced perspective. It also appeared that you "gave up" on Dakka for a significant period, as renders and images were posted on Facebook, but not this forum. (As I personally looked for them and linked them here).
Clear enough?



We have designed 12 major races and another 15 mercenary factions. We haven't shown but a fraction of what our world consists of. Some of the spears are from the Maagrats (rat people, mercenary faction) and some others are from the Warriors of Gluttony (heavy armored warriors; Undead, a major race) with whom the Goblins border to the East.
Spoiler:
The Goblins themselves are a mercenary and not a major race also.But we have stopped promoting our game as much as we wanted to after the huge shoutout we received in our Orcs vs Shieldmaidens Kickstarter, where people had no interest (or even missed entirely!) that they were funding a game and not simply miniatures. Until the miniature range isn't much larger, we dare not go back to that. That's also where additional funds are found, some people have no idea what good quality artwork costs and we are certainly sparing no expenses on that.


The non-spoilered part is the relevant bit, and actually all you needed to say to any of us from the beginning. These looted weapons use designs taken from our other as-yet unreleased armies.
There you go! Context that answers the question.
Easy peasy.



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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Fair enough @Azazelx. I did misunderstand what you said. On the other part, we did find ourselves uneasy (if that's the correct term) at a while at dakka but certainly always will interact here, we found we had to explain ourselves for things that shouldn't have been a matter in the first place (I am referring to the Shieldmaidens spears issue). That's the reason we chose to be very careful at showing anything on the paladins that could have for some/any reason not been put on the sprues.

For the Goblins project however, everything shown will be produced. With the chance, here are some of the shields for the Forest Goblins sprue. For the Drotts (Common Goblins) and the Drottchins (Sci-Fi Goblins) we will also be revealing information on February prior to launch.
We are currently working on making available a draft KS page to get feedback prior to launch, something we have never done before in our previous projects. Hopefully it's going to help.
We are already taking into examination feedback on the right handed bows. We find it a cool touch, some might not however. And this is created by everyone involved, so we are looking back into it.



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Post by: StygianBeach


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I personally find the larger hammers fit the not-GW aesthetic better, but I can see your point. Although it's a drag, it should be fairly straight forward to clip off the heads and replace them with hammer heads from historical kits. They also have a mace and a torch that are less massive, although not enough to equip more than a few of the sisters.


Thanks for the advice, I am also having the same problem with Stormcast Hammers, lucky for me there is always the sword option.


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Post by: BobtheInquisitor


If you need smaller hammers and maces, I've got some historical bits I can send.


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Post by: StygianBeach


Thanks for the offer.

I will see how I feel when I have them in hand first before I make any plans.

I just hope they cross pollinate well with the frostgrave girls.


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Post by: Apologist


I really like the overall look of the forest goblins, but will add my voice to the choir saying the weapons are too large. I think it's the breadth more than anything; but as-is the impression I get is that the goblins are really strong, which seems against type.

I very much like the idea a poster above mentioned, of the goblins using weapons looted from your other ranges.


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Post by: Da Boss


On the weapons, the idea of the Goblins wielding outsized weapons makes sense if they have looted them, but the limitations of posing for plastic kits with multiple configurations means that the poses cannot show the goblins staggering under the weight of their (to them) gigantic stolen goods, or wielding a normal longsword/axe two handed. So instead it looks like they are hefting heavy weapons one handed.

Does not bother me too much, I would probably go for a different option with them or use smaller weapons from my Celts and Vikings, but I think that is the issue with implementaiton of a good concept into a slightly more limited medium.

I am super happy that these goblins are being produced. I checked out your Goblin Warlord on giant wolf, and he looks awesome. Is there any plan for a unit of Goblin Wolf riders in hard plastic in a similar style?


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Post by: ingtaer


Wolf riders would be nice Da Boss, I converted some up using GW riders and am pretty happy with them but could be keen to add more.


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Post by: Da Boss


Aye. The problem for me is that the GW riders are no longer in production, and I would like to increase my horde. Should not have procrastinated, I just thought they might release updated models rather than scrapping the old ones!

I have the Red Box Games ones, but I have those based on 40mm rounds for use in LOTR. I could rebase I suppose!


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 Da Boss wrote:
I am super happy that these goblins are being produced. I checked out your Goblin Warlord on giant wolf, and he looks awesome. Is there any plan for a unit of Goblin Wolf riders in hard plastic in a similar style?

Yes there is, but we first want to first fund the infantry kits.
Here's a very rough teaser to get the main idea, the wolf cavalry is their "light" cavalry, the heavy one is the Wartoad cavalry (on 50mm bases, either round or square to choose from). Funding the infantry kits gets priority however. We are also unsure yet if we want to hand the wolves over to the Forest or the Drotts (Common Goblins), some people may already have their own main idea in their heads but lorewise we desire to have it fit into our wolrd instead. Regardless, this is still about miniatures and not our own game.



@ingtaer
Those are our Great Wolves, thank for sharing! :-)


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Post by: Gallahad


I think that Da Boss made a good point about why the large weapons look so off for the goblins. I agree that they are too large.

I hope you take the feedback on board, as it seems to be a sticking point for many potential backers.


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Post by: StygianBeach


I would like to order some Tallerian Sisters, do you know when I should be able to order them locally in Germany?


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Post by: Da Boss


Wolf riders look cool. Thanks for the image.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@StygianBeach
To our knowledge they are already available at BattlefieldBerlin


@Da Boss
*thumb up* :-)

@Gallahad
We will be taking it into account, just like we took into account the right handed bows after feedback on our FaceBook page (and are now looking to supply either left handed bows, we'll ask the backers but are currently sculpting the alternative versions all the same).
Perhaps put major issues into a vote, we'll certainly check with big attention the comments in the KS draft page, we are waiting for some final images to make it public.

Here's the first of the heroes we sculpted for the Forest Goblins army.






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Post by: StygianBeach


They seem to have the Sisters of Faith, but not the Talliareum Paladins.

Maybe I missed out?


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@StygianBeach
I don't know TBH, you'll probably need to contact them directly.

Coming on the last teaser/reveal now that we hit the weekend. (kinda short holiday!)



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Post by: NAVARRO


That goblin master archer is pretty COOL!!!
Whats going to be scale of it? Make sure tou cast them really small!


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Post by: Yodhrin


Aye if these scale up well with the more modern GW Forest Goblins(the ones from the Arachnarok for ex. rather than the old common Goblins), I'm going to have to sell some stuff to go in on this heavy.


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Post by: Azazelx


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Fair enough @Azazelx. I did misunderstand what you said. On the other part, we did find ourselves uneasy (if that's the correct term) at a while at dakka but certainly always will interact here, we found we had to explain ourselves for things that shouldn't have been a matter in the first place (I am referring to the Shieldmaidens spears issue). That's the reason we chose to be very careful at showing anything on the paladins that could have for some/any reason not been put on the sprues.

For the Goblins project however, everything shown will be produced. With the chance, here are some of the shields for the Forest Goblins sprue. For the Drotts (Common Goblins) and the Drottchins (Sci-Fi Goblins) we will also be revealing information on February prior to launch.
We are currently working on making available a draft KS page to get feedback prior to launch, something we have never done before in our previous projects. Hopefully it's going to help.
We are already taking into examination feedback on the right handed bows. We find it a cool touch, some might not however. And this is created by everyone involved, so we are looking back into it.


With the spears, the lesson isn't to show less, it's to remember that not all backers will be involved in a KS campaign at once, so something important like that in an update will probably not be read by later backers, nor by backers who "fire and forget" on a campaign without reading every update (I usually fit into both categories these days).

The other part of it is with something like the Sisters would be to state that "we may or may not include these". But honestly, if it's a pre-order you should provide customers with as much information as possible so they can make informed decisions with their hard earned money. That's why I didn't pre-order them.

Dakka will always be more prickly than something like Facebook, because shy of personal attacks and getting way out of line, people aren't heavily censored here, and people will not hold back on telling you when you make a misstep. The upshot of that is that you get more substantial feedback here - and yes, some of it can be both harsh and critical. Facebook to me feels more like an echo chamber, and the main interaction is just clicking "like", so it certainly is "friendlier", but you won't get the same kind of feedback.

I've got nothing useful to say on the topic of right-hand-held bows. I personally think they'd be a cool idea, but you might get better feedback on the 9th Age Forums or somewhere like that, as WHFB/9th Age players might prefer more uniform models in their blocks of infantry. I'd say if you have space on the sprue for them to be an extra piece so people can still have their unit of 20 or whatever holding their bows in a uniform left hand, then just go for it.

Just be careful with the terminology. A "right-handed bow" is technically the one held in the left hand with the arrow in the right hand. The right hand does the "firing". Maybe "bow held in the right hand" would be better. Doesn't bother me, since I understand what you mean, but internet....


With those shield renders, they look great on the side that's shown. Are they just flat and undetailed on the rear side, or is there also detail on the reverse?

For the goblins and their oversized weapons, perhaps they could predominantly use dagger-type weapons from your other ranges? After all, Sting and the hobbits' Wight-blades used as sword by them were actually daggers from the larger races in LotR. Failing that, you could just scale them down by 20-25-30% while maintaining the designs and then scale them back up for the actual other races. You still maintain the visual consistency within your model ranges and their world, but the goblins then look more balanced. If you need a lore reason as for why a looted Goblin gladius or khopesh or whatever is smaller than a Human one, the answer is that the goblins kept the smaller ones for their own use and traded the larger, more unwieldy ones away to (other faction) for (whatever). I assume that like in IRL history, Iron is still a valuable commodity.

Wolf cavalry look amazing. Hope you can vary the riders and wolves a little beyond the shields once they go further towards production renders.

Uh.. you're planning to do Fantasy and Sci-fi in the same campaign again? Your call of course, but if so, expect a similar reaction to the Sisters when the next SG is for the "other" faction.
I'm also not sure if 40k-style Not-Gretchin will be as popular as Goblins due to the way the armies work in GW's games. But then I guess there are still a lot more 40k players than fantasy, so maybe it'd balance out?


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Azazelx
I appreciate the detailed post. The sci-fi faction is a bonus, we are more interested in the fantasy. If it unlocks as a SG, so be it.
If there's so much interest on them, then we can always do a separate KS just for the little sci-fi fellas. From our research the Drotts (common goblins) have sapce in the market, especially if the match the Forest Goblins range, completing their army.

Although there's no more time to resculpt the downscaling of some of the weaponry, we are open and positive in revisiting that.
We are looking forward to sharing the preview/draft page in the coming days.




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Post by: Samko


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@StygianBeach
I don't know TBH, you'll probably need to contact them directly.

Coming on the last teaser/reveal now that we hit the weekend. (kinda short holiday!)

The emblem looks like it's upside-down.


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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


but its the right way up for the goblin looking down at it's own shield, and goblins aren't the brightest of bulbs


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


The emblems in our Drotts and Drottchins (common and sci-fi Goblins) both have the faces upside down, it's to depict their "psycho" stance. The only reason that the Forest Goblins emblem is the right way up (you'll soon see all emblems) is because it's a wooden mask, therefore something that can be actually worn. :-)

Here's our Forest Goblin Master Spearman.



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Post by: porkuslime


Ummm, the front and back view dont match.. his spear and shield switch hands and the quiver also..



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Post by: Theophony


 porkuslime wrote:
Ummm, the front and back view dont match.. his spear and shield switch hands and the quiver also..



Obviously computer render and it got turned and mirrored. Though it should be more mportant for them to fix it so the backers know which arm the spear will be in and which the shield will be in.


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Post by: Bolognesus


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
but its the right way up for the goblin looking down at it's own shield, and goblins aren't the brightest of bulbs


Nothing against Shieldwolf's 'canon' explanation or anything but this is just... better


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Post by: lord_blackfang


Very interested.will hold off on buying the 30 GW gretchin I still need.


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Post by: insaniak


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
The emblems in our Drotts and Drottchins (common and sci-fi Goblins) both have the faces upside down, it's to depict their "psycho" stance. The only reason that the Forest Goblins emblem is the right way up (you'll soon see all emblems) is because it's a wooden mask, therefore something that can be actually worn. :-)

Having the badge on the shield upside down is one thing (although having the wooden mask the right way up then kind of kills that for consistency) but having the gun upside down as well is what makes it look like the whole thing has been accidentally inverted.


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Post by: Samko


 insaniak wrote:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
The emblems in our Drotts and Drottchins (common and sci-fi Goblins) both have the faces upside down, it's to depict their "psycho" stance. The only reason that the Forest Goblins emblem is the right way up (you'll soon see all emblems) is because it's a wooden mask, therefore something that can be actually worn. :-)

Having the badge on the shield upside down is one thing (although having the wooden mask the right way up then kind of kills that for consistency) but having the gun upside down as well is what makes it look like the whole thing has been accidentally inverted.
Yes that's what I meant. Sorry if it wasn't clear, I was talking about the whole thing (shield, sword and gun) not just the face.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We'll post the emblems of all factions, we like creating emblems as it gives each race more "character".
To each their own, in our world Goblins are fierce and cunning yet weak if not in numbers. They are not dumb, on the contrary they are amongst the best engineers available.
But, as I wrote, to each their own, that's the beauty of this hobby after all! :-)

That said, here's the first draft for those interested, C&C very welcome!
We still haven't uploaded painted samples, size comparison photos and video, this is mainly to get the main idea of what we are aiming for.
Thank you all for your consideration.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/2005980162?ref=3kxg9d&token=36a64e8d

PS. Going to bed, it's 06.05' a.m. enough work for now!


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We appreciate all feedback received :-)

We will be changing the "blurry" renders of our characters (spider shaman and master spearman), plus we have added a size comparison and add-on section.
We are working on some graphics, awaiting video, painted miniatures etc.
Thank you for your consideration.



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Post by: lord_blackfang


You probably should not put the toad cavalry and the words "hard plastic" in the same place if they're not.


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Post by: Da Boss


Goblin looks great. Definitely interested in this.


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Post by: StygianBeach


I like the Goblins design, but the proportions are not to my taste.


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Post by: Psychopomp


These days, I'm scouring the market for more Goblin Slayer style gobbos rather than heroic scaled gobbos. I do like the work shown and I wish Shieldwolf quick and copious funding, but these just aren't the goblins I'm looking for right now.


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Post by: StygianBeach


Goblin Slayer Goblins are IMO also Heroic Scale, just less so than the Shieldwolf Gobbos.


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Post by: skullking


The forest behemoths look great!

I hope we’ll see some other big beasties for these goblins as well.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 skullking wrote:
The forest behemoths look great!
I hope we’ll see some other big beasties for these goblins as well.


We are awaiting painted samples of both our fantay and sci-fi behemoths. For obvious reasons we can show off only the fantasy versions for the time being. With a little luck the project launches end of this week, otherwise it's Monday the 18th. We can delay no longer than that.

@Psychopomp
Scalewise, conceptwise we know we won't please everyone. We appreciate the consideration all the same :-)

@lord_blackfang
Actually we do have plans for the wartoads to be in hard-plastic as well. (It's also been a huge workload to see how that would be done, not only sculptwise but also costwise. Naturally all this work may even never be revealed, but we always hope things will someday go really really well for one of our projects) :-D


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Post by: Yodhrin


Well that's a shame, they seem to be sized much more like the older GW goblins than the modern ones. Man, I really wanted a Forest Gobbo army as well :/


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Yodhrin
Ah, we wouldn't know about the modern ones, to our knowledge said company didn't release any new infantry regiments, kept the previous ones, no? Even so, these could simply be considered "beefier" since they are more "savage/primitive" looking? Either way, definitely two ranges that fit.

Anyway, getting really close to launch, last WiP report we received, hopefully you like the color scheme the studio went with (we give carte blanche to our artists).



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Post by: Yodhrin


The Forest Goblins from both the plastic Spider Riders that originated in the 7th Edition boxed game and the crew for the Arachnarok spider are scaled to fit in with the modern Night Goblins, all of which are significantly smaller and differently proportioned to the "classic" Goblins.

Unfortunately I have quite a few of the former, and I'm a stickler for consistency.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Yodhrin
Ah, hehe, fair enough, I was talking about infantry regiments.

Some may remember this, Forest Brutgoths will be available from the start, the Mountain versions will be made available during the project being live. We will be announcing the launch date any day now.
Thank you!



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Post by: DaveC


The army pic looks very nice. Slightly disappointed that they are bigger than current Nightgoblins but not enough to put me off getting a box or 3.

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Post by: StygianBeach


I really like the look of them but they are not scaled to my taste so I will be giving them a miss.


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Post by: highlord tamburlaine


My goblins consist of only squigs and trolls so I wouldn't mind some leafy neighbors to hang out with them.

I wonder how they stack up with older plastic night goblins...


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Hi eveyone,

the only thing that's going to change is making the maul and a couple of spear heads a bit smaller so they are not that exaggerated (we simply don't have time to make that change now, we have contracts signed and deadlines running). We will try making everything crystal clear so everyone's definitely sure to know what they are funding to be created.
With a little luck, we'll get to the "common" sci-fi and fantasy goblin armies as well.

Here's a very good presentation (in our opinion) of what the initial armies consist of.
Thank you.




Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/14 17:10:39


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I'm liking what I see... but where's the scifi ones?

You haven't even teased them yet!



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Post by: insaniak


Not a fan of the toads - the howdahs are awkward looking, and the toads themselves are really underwhelming. The goblins themselves and the big beasty look cool... but yeah, I'm only here for the scifi versions.


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Post by: privateer4hire


I think these look cool. Very nicely done.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@privateer4hire
Thank you.

@highlord @insaniak
The reason we don't want to get people too excited about stretch goals is that they are just that, stretch goals. Our goal is to reach 25K in order to cofund the Forest Goblin army in hard-plastic. The rest we are prepared to take one step at a time, even if it means doing a different Kickstarter due to the huge costs involved and despite our cofunding.
Here are two teasers of the next hard-plastic kits we would love to create should we get the chance. We dare show no more than this.
Have a great weekend!





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Post by: friareriner


Yes, plastic space goblins with wrenches. Perfect.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Hey @Orlando, appreciate the assistance! :-)

It's very early to show more than already revealed (we've only been live a few hours), so here's a very rough first teaser. We are looking forward to showing a whole lot more! :-D



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Post by: lord_blackfang


Uf, $1 per goblin plus shipping ain't grand.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Hi @lord_blackfang!
Actually it comes less than $1 per goblin (not to mention the quality and variety of bits included for each and everyone of them). We honestly don't think anyone else can match value for money what we are offering, we would be interested to see what we may have missed?! :-)
If the concept doesn't appease you, fair enough, that's certainly a different matter :-D


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Post by: lord_blackfang


Actually I really like the sculpts!


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


:-)

(Lol, truth be told I was sure you'd write down that a box of 25 goblins are $25 so it's exactly $1 per mini(!), whilst I was referring to the actual bundle offers where it's less than that!)


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Post by: Azazelx


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Hi @lord_blackfang!
Actually it comes less than $1 per goblin (not to mention the quality and variety of bits included for each and everyone of them). We honestly don't think anyone else can match value for money what we are offering, we would be interested to see what we may have missed?! :-)
If the concept doesn't appease you, fair enough, that's certainly a different matter :-D


Only because of the resin characters added as a bonus in the pledge levels, but you're literally selling the goblin boxes at US$25 with 25 models.

For me, the prices work out to be the same as buying the GW night goblins, which also have the ability to be built as either archers or melee weapons, with command options included on the sprues. These aren't bad , by any means. Maybe a bit expensive for a KS campaign, but they're essentially on a par with the GW product, price-wise, as the additional shipping costs brings them to the same price as GW.


I'll likely back, both because I like the look of these, and to support you guys, but I can't see a use for more than 2 boxes (50 goblins would easily be enough for me to mix in to my existing models).

Just as an aside - 2x Raiding Party ($50x2) (at this point) offers better value than 1x Starter Army ($100) because you get 4 of the resin heroes instead of two. Obviously this can/will change with later stretch goals, but thought it worth pointing out for the time being.

Best of luck!


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Thank you @Azazelx, we appreciate both the input and the support. :-)


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Post by: ingtaer


Best of luck with it Shieldwolf, I am tempted to pledge but have to watch the pennies in my hobby budget this month.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Thank you @ingtaer. Here's hoping we reach as far as possible, there's so much stuff we want to show (but we naturally can't just yet, we have been live barely 20 hours!)

First social SG unlocks at 100 backers. We are fairly close now :-)


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We have added a FAQ in regards to the wartoads. Some love them, some so-so, some simply do not! :-)
Since all the production is in our hands, we have added a FAQ if people tend to swap them, it's cool with us.

And here's the teaser we had shown elsewhere so might as well show it off here too, but we can't reveal anything else that remains no more than a locked planned SG.
At this pace by mid next week we can start showing more SGs as we estimate the project will have funded and moved forward towards them.

Thank you all.



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Post by: RiTides


40k looking squiggoth howdah? Very nice

I agree about the toads (not my cup of tea) but the basic infantry and big beastie are great!


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@RiTides
Thank you, we have worked pretty hard on this one (and piled up quite some work) and are looking forward to providing great value for everyone involved. Thing is people interested in the sci-fi versions won't see anything as that's what happened to a previous project of ours where we had revealed too much, too fast.
One step at a time. For the time being, it seems we are doing pretty well :-)
We appreciate everyone lending a hand by letting others know about the project. Much appreciated!



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Post by: PourSpelur


Any concept art for them Drottchins, sci-fi goblins yet? They're what I'm interested in.


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Post by: Gallahad


PourSpelur wrote:
Any concept art for them Drottchins, sci-fi goblins yet? They're what I'm interested in.


I think they want to be sure and fund the fantasy versions first with only people interested in fantasy. Otherwise, they run the risk of people dropping out when the thing they want to find (sci-fi version, something else teased too early, etc. ) don't fund, which has happened to them in previous campaigns.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


This, what @Gallahad said. We won't be showing anything that's not yet close to funding, we did the same mistake in a previous campaign, it's definitely not going to happen again.

What's very curious is people really wanting to see the Drotts and/or Drottchins but won't pledge (even if it costs them nothing!) before they actually unlock. Which, makes the whole effort, let's say not as easy as it could have been, lol! (thankfully there are those who think ahead and have already pledged, even if they don't keep their pledge in our opinion it's the smart thing to do and we appreciate it).
Take for example our Shieldmaidens project. We received like 20-25% in the last 48 hours. If we had received that earlier, we could have probably reached the 100K target at the end and rewarded all gold level pledge backers +2 free boxes of Warmaidens (that's an extra 40 miniatures!). Wouldn't that have been simply extremely awesome value for money? :-)


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Post by: Nostromodamus


So you don’t want to show things not close to funding, but you desire a bunch of fake pledges that may or may not get dropped so that you can show off later goals?

If your market research shows that people are waiting to see something before pledging for it (entirely reasonable) then why not show those things?

I understand Gallahad’s point though, it’s a tricky situation.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Nostromodamus
Yes, except they are certainly not fake pledges. :-)
It's not the first time we've seen it either, even here at Dakka there are people who openly state in other projects that they have pledged but they might probably end up dropping their pledges ("drop" is the verb most commonly used from what we read).
Our market research shows Forest Goblins in hard plastic is something people would like, yes, that's why we spend funds on it (not only the heavy cofunding of the actual project but also the complete sculpting, paid promotions, work hours, pretooling, trip expenses, logistics etc).
Now, this has various parameters naturally; we might have sculpts that people might not be enthusiastic about, we might have paint themes that don't excite people, we might have paid promotions that hit the wrong audience, the timing might be not correct with bad time of the year or other similar campaigns colliding etc etc.

Shieldwolf Miniatures is cofunding more than 50% of this project, just like we have always cofunded anything else we do on crowdfunding. Why cofund? Well, because we love what we do I guess. It's not going to be any more than that however, if hard plastic forest goblins have ever had any real chance becoming a realiity, it's now or never. Otherwise I think you'll all agree that the only thing this project proves is that there's simply no market for them, when a known manufacturer with 100% KS delivery status has tried twice and not met the funding target. We believe there is a market. Time will tell :-)


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Post by: insaniak


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:

What's very curious is people really wanting to see the Drotts and/or Drottchins but won't pledge (even if it costs them nothing!) before they actually unlock.

I'm puzzled as to what you find 'curious' about that. If people want those kits specifically, and aren't interested in the rest of the campaign, what reason would they have to pledge before the thing they want is actually available? They would be pledging out of hope that the stretch goal they want will unlock, and run the risk of either having to drop their pledge at the end (which stuffs everyone involved around) or winding up paying for something they didn't actually want.


It's a bit of a catch-22 situation, certainly, but that's the nature of the beast.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


A catch-22 indeed!

Well, we'll see how it goes :-)
We still have something we are preparing behind the scenes that should be ready on Monday, it should move things a bit forward. Plus banners on BoW and other siters and forums going up, so we should get a good bump.

We are also experiencing a very unexpected issue with our newsletter, seems some russian hacker (or at least that's the IP the server provider tells us it's from) has messed up some things and the system automatically blocked us to the minimum system requirements or whatever, we are no technicians. We hope it will get resolved, till now only a few tenths of emails have got out. Not the best thing that could happen to us as we only send out 3-4 times a year, where it actually matters! :/


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Post by: skarsol


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
This, what @Gallahad said. We won't be showing anything that's not yet close to funding, we did the same mistake in a previous campaign, it's definitely not going to happen again.

What's very curious is people really wanting to see the Drotts and/or Drottchins but won't pledge (even if it costs them nothing!) before they actually unlock. Which, makes the whole effort, let's say not as easy as it could have been, lol! (thankfully there are those who think ahead and have already pledged, even if they don't keep their pledge in our opinion it's the smart thing to do and we appreciate it).
Take for example our Shieldmaidens project. We received like 20-25% in the last 48 hours. If we had received that earlier, we could have probably reached the 100K target at the end and rewarded all gold level pledge backers +2 free boxes of Warmaidens (that's an extra 40 miniatures!). Wouldn't that have been simply extremely awesome value for money? :-)


People don't like to drop an initial pledge for items they don't want. Once they've pledged, it's much easier to get them to up their pledge in advance of an announced stretch goal because they're already invested. Unfortunately, you've provided no draw to get that initial pledge from people who don't want fantasy models. This is a common thread in your Kickstarters. You would be much better served having something for everyone in the initial offering and then staggering stretch goals between the target markets. As is, you barely even mention sci-fi goblins in the Kickstarter and give no clues as to just what point they'd be available at.

As for the Shieldmaidens receiving 20-25% in the last 48 hours, that's just how Kickstarters work. People make an initial pledge or just star the project and then come back when they get the 48h email to see if they want to increase their pledge (or drop it). This fits perfectly with what I was saying in the previous paragraph. You're not offering a large portion of your potential audience anything initially, but are telling them there might be something for them later, so is it any wonder they wait till later to see if now there's something for them? But you guys want to run your Kickstarters the way you want to run them, and that's fine, but you shouldn't really be surprised at how people react to them.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Skarsol
First of all, don't take this as an attack, we appreciate all constructive feedback, and yours certainly qualifies as such!

I will object to what you are saying however, you wrote "You're not offering a large portion of your potential audience anything initially".
We are offering
1. to fund 50%+ of the project,
2. a hard plastic kit of great quality with a)a lot of options and b)something that currently doesn't exist anywhere else worldwide
3. 5 wartoads (all unique sculpts)
4. 2 characters in pledge levels
5. 2 additional characters (one of which the Butcher, revealed today)
6. a huge beast + the option to have a howdah

All this professionaly (in our opinion, I believe yours too) painted and video presented. For 25.000 USD, because very simply we cannot ask for less, math won't add up. If that's not reasonable enough, then I don't know what is. Did we fund in the first 48 hours in order to start smashing SGs? No, but hey, it's a niche within a niche. We believe in it and we'll fight it till the end, we try creating armies that are unique and/or distinctive :-)

Also, you write "you [i.e. Shieldwolf] barely even mention sci-fi goblins in the Kickstarter". Well yes, that's definitely intentional. If we reveal more it's going to do more harm than good, we've been through that. Thanks, we won't be doing it again.
we simply shared some images in forums/FaceBook to show how much additional work has gone into this project. Perhaps we shouldn't have done even that, who knows?
When the community gives us the chance to create and offer great value, we will. That's how we feel anyway.

Just our sincere thoughts, we are all here working on Monday's, it's still 2 weeks in a 17 day campaign. :-)
Things are building up slowly, but they are certainly building up... let's do this!


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Post by: skarsol


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@Skarsol
First of all, don't take this as an attack, we appreciate all constructive feedback, and yours certainly qualifies as such!

I will object to what you are saying however, you wrote "You're not offering a large portion of your potential audience anything initially".
We are offering
1. to fund 50%+ of the project,
2. a hard plastic kit of great quality with a)a lot of options and b)something that currently doesn't exist anywhere else worldwide
3. 5 wartoads (all unique sculpts)
4. 2 characters in pledge levels
5. 2 additional characters (one of which the Butcher, revealed today)
6. a huge beast + the option to have a howdah


To clarify, I'm saying you aren't offering people that want standard sci-fi or fantasy goblins anything. For people that want forest goblins, sure, this is a great offer. But it should be no surprise that the others aren't pledging yet.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 Azazelx wrote:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Hi @lord_blackfang!
Actually it comes less than $1 per goblin (not to mention the quality and variety of bits included for each and everyone of them). We honestly don't think anyone else can match value for money what we are offering, we would be interested to see what we may have missed?! :-)
If the concept doesn't appease you, fair enough, that's certainly a different matter :-D


Only because of the resin characters added as a bonus in the pledge levels, but you're literally selling the goblin boxes at US$25 with 25 models.

For me, the prices work out to be the same as buying the GW night goblins, which also have the ability to be built as either archers or melee weapons, with command options included on the sprues. These aren't bad , by any means. Maybe a bit expensive for a KS campaign, but they're essentially on a par with the GW product, price-wise, as the additional shipping costs brings them to the same price as GW.
While night goblin box as aged well I think it is pretty fair to say these forest goblins are of higher quality. More importantly, GW's are $35 for 20, so unless shipping brings it up to $43.75 for Shieldwolf's box they are cheaper.


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Post by: Azazelx


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
This, what @Gallahad said. We won't be showing anything that's not yet close to funding, we did the same mistake in a previous campaign, it's definitely not going to happen again.

What's very curious is people really wanting to see the Drotts and/or Drottchins but won't pledge (even if it costs them nothing!) before they actually unlock. Which, makes the whole effort, let's say not as easy as it could have been, lol! (thankfully there are those who think ahead and have already pledged, even if they don't keep their pledge in our opinion it's the smart thing to do and we appreciate it).


Not curious at all. I'm surprised that you'd even suggest this, as it's basically insane and guarantees that the campaign would end up another Shieldwolf Kickstarter dumpster fire as people pull their pledges in the final days. Do you not remember these?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-warmaidens-and-dragonbreds
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-shieldmaidens-vs-orcs



Take for example our Shieldmaidens project. We received like 20-25% in the last 48 hours. If we had received that earlier, we could have probably reached the 100K target at the end and rewarded all gold level pledge backers +2 free boxes of Warmaidens (that's an extra 40 miniatures!). Wouldn't that have been simply extremely awesome value for money? :-)


Kickstarter isn't shiny and new anymore, but even so the two "spikes" are always at the beginning and end of a campaign - and it's been this way since KS took off in this space. You get the people who are enthusiastic or really want to see something funded at the start, and then you get the "wait and see" people at the end. I've pledged $50 based on what you're offering right now. If you have more stuff unlocked that I'm interested in later, I may raise my pledge. While you guys may prefer for people like me to bump my pledge to, say, $300 in anticipation for things that may or may not unlock, that's simply not going to happen because ultimately it's a stupid idea for me to do that - and as we know - chances are it'll result in a significant backslide on your overall campaign at the end, and even the possibility of you guys cancelling it a few days out.

The only smart way for consumers to back a KS campaign is based on what is on offer at the time. Speculative pledges are stupid.

Speaking for myself, I've backed for 2 boxes of forest goblins because I like the sculpts (lack of ball joints for heads and necks is a choice, but I'll live.) 50 of them is pretty safely more than I'll ever get around to painting. The KS price for the goblins isn't particularly amazing (especially pre-paying a year out), so I won't pledge for more just so I can have more, and I hate the toads (sorry), I do like the brutgoths but not enough to pay for at those prices. So my pledge sits at $50. If normal goblins, or gretchin become unlocked, I may bump up my pledge, but right now, I'm pledging only for what's actually on offer. Not what might be offered in the future. It's pretty straightforward and simple.


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skarsol wrote:

People don't like to drop an initial pledge for items they don't want. Once they've pledged, it's much easier to get them to up their pledge in advance of an announced stretch goal because they're already invested. Unfortunately, you've provided no draw to get that initial pledge from people who don't want fantasy models. This is a common thread in your Kickstarters. You would be much better served having something for everyone in the initial offering and then staggering stretch goals between the target markets. As is, you barely even mention sci-fi goblins in the Kickstarter and give no clues as to just what point they'd be available at.



 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@Skarsol
I will object to what you are saying however, you wrote "You're not offering a large portion of your potential audience anything initially".
We are offering
1. to fund 50%+ of the project,
2. a hard plastic kit of great quality with a)a lot of options and b)something that currently doesn't exist anywhere else worldwide
3. 5 wartoads (all unique sculpts)
4. 2 characters in pledge levels
5. 2 additional characters (one of which the Butcher, revealed today)
6. a huge beast + the option to have a howdah


You guys just don't listen sometimes. It's very frustrating.

All of your points there are just the same sort of irrelevant, self-aggrandising hurfblurf that you responded to my post with a couple of weeks ago. They have nothing to do with what he was talking about.

He's clearly talking about the Space Goblins that you guys are wishing people would pledge for even though there's no actual sign of them in the campaign.

1. If someone is a 40k Ork player, they are part of your potential audience that you're not offering anything to.
2. Yet you're frustrated that the people in this category aren't pledging just in case, maybe, you fund some sci-fi grots.
3. A 40k Ork player probably gives no feths about how much of the project you're funding, hard plastic fantasy models for a game they don't play, wartoads, resin models for a game they don't play, more characters for a game they don't play and quite likely, a huge beast, with or without howdah for a game they don't play.

Basically, you guys have clearly worked very hard on the campaign, but being so close to and invested in the project has blinded you to a lot of stuff that's quite obvious to cooler heads. You're also over-protective of it and tend to over-react or do what you did above when it's irrelevant to the discussion point being made.

I think trying to add in sci-fi goblins is a mistake - and even moreso trying to encourage backers to make speculative pledges is a huge, because you (unfortunately) won't get there. It wasn't that long ago when you guys were shocked that one of the other campaigns didn't fund into the hundreds of thousands of $ compared to one of Mantic's campaigns because you were offering had plastic compared to their gakky PVC. The big difference is that while their quality is ...variable, Mantic's campaigns are also quite wide, and they often draw on a lot of their back catalogue to help offer that "something for everyone".

I'm actually not suggesting here that you offer the rest of your range at a discount (you guys can make those choices yourselves at this point), but stop being so surprised when a campaign offering a single nice HIPs kit, some nice enough resin characters, and some resin monsters of variable quality doesn't instantly go gangbusters.

One final thing to consider is GW. You guys are competing in the same market, and not in a different niche like Bolt Action or Flames of War. They're still in competition, but you're in direct competition for the Warhammer dollar. They're absolutely kicking arse right now with the rate and quality of their releases, and it takes something pretty special to draw funds away from them right now in the "Warhammer" niche.


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Hi @lord_blackfang!
Actually it comes less than $1 per goblin (not to mention the quality and variety of bits included for each and everyone of them). We honestly don't think anyone else can match value for money what we are offering, we would be interested to see what we may have missed?! :-)
If the concept doesn't appease you, fair enough, that's certainly a different matter :-D


Only because of the resin characters added as a bonus in the pledge levels, but you're literally selling the goblin boxes at US$25 with 25 models.

For me, the prices work out to be the same as buying the GW night goblins, which also have the ability to be built as either archers or melee weapons, with command options included on the sprues. These aren't bad , by any means. Maybe a bit expensive for a KS campaign, but they're essentially on a par with the GW product, price-wise, as the additional shipping costs brings them to the same price as GW.
While night goblin box as aged well I think it is pretty fair to say these forest goblins are of higher quality. More importantly, GW's are $35 for 20, so unless shipping brings it up to $43.75 for Shieldwolf's box they are cheaper.


Maybe for you, but not for me. In case you missed the AU flag or the "works out to" or "for me" in my post, I don't live anywhere near you. So my situation is quite different.
I can get the Night Goblin box for $35AU, shipped, for 20 Goblins (no, I'm not buying from GWAU at AU prices - hence the "FOR ME"). AU$1.75 per goblin.
These cost me US$25 each (AU$35.20) for 25, plus quoted shipping of US$15 (AU$21.10) (half that, since it's for 2 boxes) comes to AU$45.80 for 25 goblins. AU$1.84 per goblin.

So actually more expensive than GW, but close enough for me to say "about the same" and back for a couple of boxes.

Feel free to jump in and try to correct me again, though. I'm sure it'll work out just as well.



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Post by: NinthMusketeer


Well you had no indication* you were buying from a separate source than GW, so my observation was valid given what you presented. And even then the implication that this is a flaw of the kickstarter for not beating the discounted price you personally get is silly.

*Unless I am meant to assume that "for me" followed by a generalized statement of the KS as a whole means you are saying "my specific case of discounts makes this KS expensive" in which case I apologise for interpreting the wording differently instead of assuming there was no logical process involved.


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Post by: Gallahad


@Azazelx, I think you misread Shieldwolf. The only person suggesting they offer sci-fi goblins initially is Skarsol. Anybody who has followed their last couple of Kickstarters understands this is the wrong approach.

I think Shieldwolf was just making a comment about the somewhat counter intuitive "I won't pledge for things that aren't unlocked even if it makes it possible to unlock the thing I want and costs me nothing" behavior they've observed in their previous Kickstarters, not proposing they follow the same path as previous Kickstarters.


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Post by: insaniak


Honestly, I think the real problem here is with Kickstarters offering things as stretch goals that aren't actually related to the original campaign. That's what creates this situation where people won't pledge until the stretch they want unlocks, and the stretch doesn't get unlocked because they don't pledge...

Running a campaign for Forest Goblins? Great! Make all the stretch goals additions or expansions to Forest Goblins, and keep the Space Goblins, or whatever else to their own campaign where the people who want then can actually pledge for them with some reasonable expectation of getting them.


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Post by: NinthMusketeer


 insaniak wrote:
Honestly, I think the real problem here is with Kickstarters offering things as stretch goals that aren't actually related to the original campaign. That's what creates this situation where people won't pledge until the stretch they want unlocks, and the stretch doesn't get unlocked because they don't pledge...

Running a campaign for Forest Goblins? Great! Make all the stretch goals additions or expansions to Forest Goblins, and keep the Space Goblins, or whatever else to their own campaign where the people who want then can actually pledge for them with some reasonable expectation of getting them.
I agree this seems to be the best way to do it.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/22 17:02:10


Post by: skarsol


 Gallahad wrote:
@Azazelx, I think you misread Shieldwolf. The only person suggesting they offer sci-fi goblins initially is Skarsol. Anybody who has followed their last couple of Kickstarters understands this is the wrong approach.

I think Shieldwolf was just making a comment about the somewhat counter intuitive "I won't pledge for things that aren't unlocked even if it makes it possible to unlock the thing I want and costs me nothing" behavior they've observed in their previous Kickstarters, not proposing they follow the same path as previous Kickstarters.


I only suggested that if they wanted to resolve the "curious" situation of people wanting sci-fi stuff not wanting to pledge, they needed to actually offer sci-fi stuff. I made no assertions about whether that would be a good choice or not.


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Post by: Donomar


Interested in this KS. Mainly interested in the Forest Goblin troops but looking forward to your reveals Any intention of making any of your other products available as add ons?



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Post by: Da Boss


I will probably back this weekend, but it does look rather tight to reach the funding so far.


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Post by: Azazelx


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well you had no indication* you were buying from a separate source than GW, so my observation was valid given what you presented. And even then the implication that this is a flaw of the kickstarter for not beating the discounted price you personally get is silly.

*Unless I am meant to assume that "for me" followed by a generalized statement of the KS as a whole means you are saying "my specific case of discounts makes this KS expensive" in which case I apologise for interpreting the wording differently instead of assuming there was no logical process involved.


Just give it up, mate. I'm buying at UKGW retail prices rather than GWAU retail prices, but let's be bluntly honest - it's not like you knew where I was or took that into account. Still, even that means that the KS is going to be very close to the same kind price/goblin to people in the UK - and hence the value of the KS is pretty much the same to anyone in the UK as it is to me. If you have any awareness of the market, you'll know that the UK is a not-insubstantial market for toy soldiers. I know that thinking outside of their own bubble can be hard for some US-centric people, so I hope you're not amongst them and are able to consider that your situation ≠ the situations of many other people. Besides, both the UK and US are filled with places that offer a substantial discount on GW stock's RRP. And people DO take these things into consideration, especially when paying a year out.

Now please leave it, or just stop replying to me entirely. Either works.


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 Gallahad wrote:
@Azazelx, I think you misread Shieldwolf. The only person suggesting they offer sci-fi goblins initially is Skarsol. Anybody who has followed their last couple of Kickstarters understands this is the wrong approach.

I think Shieldwolf was just making a comment about the somewhat counter intuitive "I won't pledge for things that aren't unlocked even if it makes it possible to unlock the thing I want and costs me nothing" behavior they've observed in their previous Kickstarters, not proposing they follow the same path as previous Kickstarters.


The thing is, what are those things that aren't unlocked? Generic Fantasy Goblins and the aforementioned Gretchin. My argument is that asking or expecting people to pledge based on what might happen (with images or not - and not much in terms of images at this stage in this case) is not a smart way forward, and that kind of thinking is likely to result in a big backslide at the end (or halfway through the campaign). They need to come to the table with something that enough people will pay for to fund the campaign, and then worry about people funding for stretch goals which may or may not happen. And certainly not to complain that it isn't happening.


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 insaniak wrote:
Honestly, I think the real problem here is with Kickstarters offering things as stretch goals that aren't actually related to the original campaign. That's what creates this situation where people won't pledge until the stretch they want unlocks, and the stretch doesn't get unlocked because they don't pledge...


Thank you for comprehending my point.



Running a campaign for Forest Goblins? Great! Make all the stretch goals additions or expansions to Forest Goblins, and keep the Space Goblins, or whatever else to their own campaign where the people who want then can actually pledge for them with some reasonable expectation of getting them.


I think that attempting to mix the sci-fi and fantasy is a move that won't turn out well. Raging Heroes - who SW may be considering - managed to pull it off by having cheaper production (spincast resin as opposed to HIPS) and a million beautiful, unique sculpts. Not a single HIPS kit. Apples and Oranges.

It might work for Shieldwolf by having Forest Goblins and then Fantasy Goblins, as those have a lot more crossover.




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 Donomar wrote:
Interested in this KS. Mainly interested in the Forest Goblin troops but looking forward to your reveals Any intention of making any of your other products available as add ons?

 Da Boss wrote:
I will probably back this weekend, but it does look rather tight to reach the funding so far.


May as well go in now, guys. If you're after the Forest Goblins, there's no harm in backing for those, even if it doesn't fund!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/24 02:01:41


Post by: Forlorn


My only real criticism of the offered items is the stagnant poses. There's nothing really exciting about the look of every figure standing exactly the same way minus the weapon swaps.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We have opened the doors up wide. 3 out f 5 army bundles made available, two more to follow (Ogres and Orcs). Plus a few new banner coming up as scheduled in the begining of the campaign; if the plastic forest goblins are to become a reality, this is their last shot.







Thank you for your consideration!


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Post by: Azazelx


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 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
We have opened the doors up wide. 3 out f 5 army bundles made available, two more to follow (Ogres and Orcs). Plus a few new banner coming up as scheduled in the begining of the campaign; if the plastic forest goblins are to become a reality, this is their last shot.
Thank you for your consideration!


Hoping that it puts an accelerator on the campaign, but I feel like these would have been more useful had they been offered earlier, or even from the beginning. Unfortunately, there's not much for me there, as I have a ton of Shieldmaidens and Orcs already, and I'm not huge on those Ogres (though if I was, I'd have already grabbed a bunch). I'll have a closer look at the Sisters and see how the finished models appear.

Does anyone have links to the final, shipped HIPS models?

edited by ingtaer.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/26 07:25:43


Post by: ingtaer



Guys please keep this to discussion of Shieldwolf and their current kickstarter.

@Shieldwolf, interesting to see how this new tack works out for you, I forsee alot of messages asking to pick and mix accross factions in your future.


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Post by: DaveC


To start I just want to say I hope this funds I’m in for 3 boxes of Forest Goblins that’s more than I’ll ever need and the other ranges don’t interest me so adding them wont increase my pledge but hopefully it will bring in more funds. Some other Goblin heroes might get more from me but I know that they have to be paid for as well and if you only scrape $25k that leaves things very tight. I never saw the previous campaigns for these.

Unfortunately the current trend isn’t looking good by day 8 the September campaign had reached $18,000 but ultimately didn’t fund this one is even further behind. It really is last chance for these there’s only so many times they can run the campaign before calling it a day so if you want em now is the time to get them.

I think the timing was off as much as anything with both Mantics Terrain crate and Shadows of Brimstone running at the same time funds only go so far, sometimes you just cant catch a break.

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Post by: lord_blackfang


I posted in the KoW group. Did anyone get word out to the T9A crowd?


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Thank you guys! We are trying our best but as @DaveC says, sometimes it is what it is. We are doing our best regardless, throwing now out some of the aces we had kept up our sleeves; banners have gone up on Beasts of War (this was scheduled more than a month ago!), and we have now added the other 2 factions (Orcs and Ogres). The science fiction monster comes in the next update.








(...and the Russian hacker seems to have really messed up our newsletter list, we have it but we simply can't use it. Couldn't have been any worse timing than this...) :-(

Anyway...
9 days left, this is make it or break it! Fingers crossed! :-)


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Post by: Sacredroach


Just send out the information to all of your previous backers through the KS Update system. That should reach most people without relying on internal lists.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/26 15:22:07


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Sacredroach
Hey, thanks for that tip! We hadn't thought of that. Yes, we'll put in together some better/smaller/round-up images and post an update. Perhaps these previous backers don't want plastic Goblins but could help the cause otherwise! :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/27 17:19:00


Post by: RiTides


Well that is just legit!!! Lovely paint job, too


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/27 17:28:33


Post by: DaveC


seems odd not to mention it's available as an add on (subject to funding) just without a crew. I actually think this version looks better than the fantasy one and would work in a fantasy setting without the cannon.



and here's the shaman for reaching 200 backers (171 at present)




Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/02/27 23:45:19


Post by: Azazelx


 DaveC wrote:
I think the timing was off as much as anything with both Mantics Terrain crate and Shadows of Brimstone running at the same time funds only go so far, sometimes you just cant catch a break.


That definitely sucks for the goblins. But it seems that there's always a "big" tabletop campaign (or pledge manager about to close) at any given time these days, so I guess it's part of the inbuilt hurdles of a KS campaign these days. Along with GW Resurgent.


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I posted in the KoW group. Did anyone get word out to the T9A crowd?


I put it up on my blog on day 1 or 2, but I doubt that people who browsed it and went away will be back to see all the new stuff on offer. And as much as I like SW, I'm not going to post about the same KS twice in a week and turn people's perceptions of the blog into being an ad. I think for whatever the next campaign is, Shieldwolf needs to leverage all of the things from Day 1 to get the initial total nice and high/funded, since a lot of people will browse once and then not return - and the majority of the 48-hour crowd won't back if it's not already funded unless it's maybe on a knife-edge of funding.

Agreed with Dave as well - that sci-fi Sqiggoth/Dinobeast would work just as well for many fantasy armies, and the cannon can easily be repurposed by most players. I bumped my pledge from $50 to $100 for some sisters, but I unfortunately don't have an additional $80 for a Brutgoth right now. (Especially as those US$ amounts work out to a good chunk more in AU$!) So if the campaign funds, I'd have to get something like that in the PM.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


You've already done more than we could ask for @Azazelx, here's hoping it does go through at the end. Otherwise we'll be left with at least the piece of mind we gave it a pretty good shot of actually becoming real! :-)

7 days left on this 17 day campaign, 3/5 of the way there; make-it-or-break-it!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/01 23:32:29


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Have Griffintropii been opened up as add ons? If so, how much are they?

 Azazelx wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
We have opened the doors up wide. 3 out f 5 army bundles made available, two more to follow (Ogres and Orcs). Plus a few new banner coming up as scheduled in the begining of the campaign; if the plastic forest goblins are to become a reality, this is their last shot.
Thank you for your consideration!


Hoping that it puts an accelerator on the campaign, but I feel like these would have been more useful had they been offered earlier, or even from the beginning. Unfortunately, there's not much for me there, as I have a ton of Shieldmaidens and Orcs already, and I'm not huge on those Ogres (though if I was, I'd have already grabbed a bunch). I'll have a closer look at the Sisters and see how the finished models appear.

Does anyone have links to the final, shipped HIPS models?

edited by ingtaer.


I've posted some pics of the sisters earlier in the thread. What exactly would you like to see?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 12:22:51


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Pity that we will probably not be showing off vehicles, warmachines and other goodies we had in store for this project, we did leave some teasers and the promise to follow up on this however in order to complete the range, i.e. even if we don't unlock the Drotts &Drottchins (they unlock contemporaneously), the funding of the Forest Goblins project will make us commit to make the Drotts & Drottchins our very next KS project.

Dropping these here :-)
Have a great weekend everyone, here's hoping for an awesome last 5 days of the project! :-D











Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 15:50:58


Post by: Donomar


Feel like the KS could have done with a lot more Stretch goals in the 5000 to 25000 range; first one kicks in at 27,000 and is nearly achieved. Also the Social Stretch goals could also be broader (4 in total) with the 400 funders one only being of use to backers claiming the wartoad cavalry (leaves a gap of 400 between the 200 backers goal (just achieved) and the 600 where every backer benefits.

Still, the KS seems to be gaining momentum now and hopefully some good progress over the next few days;


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 17:45:20


Post by: DaveC


The KS doesn't fund until $25,000 is hit, normally stretch goals don't apply until after a project hits it's initial funding. Plus $25,000 is only half of whats required to make this project a reality Shieldwolf are operating on we pay half you pay half.

Even the unlocked backer goals aren't technically unlocked as they don't exist if the project doesn't fund.

$19,704 at the moment. The last 3 days have seen an upswing and have beaten the daily amounts needed to fund, today has already beaten the minimum daily total required.





Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 19:18:58


Post by: lord_blackfang


I hope we make it. It's really sad to see that a lot of the more "down to earth" gaming projects struggle to fund lately, probably because people were spoiled by crazy campaigns that deliver 5kg of chinese PVC minis for $100. We had similar issues with Fireforge's HIPS Peasants/Zombies.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 20:40:31


Post by: Sarouan


Sometimes it just doesn't work.

I like the project, but I frankly don't need more goblins. And I don't need to go through Kickstarter to order stuff Shieldwolf Miniature already sells on their website - especially when I will have to wait to get it.

Yeah, sure, people got spoiled with previous Kickstarters, but I don't think that's the only reason. These goblins are nice to have on the market for sure, but it's already so crowded nowadays...most backers don't have infinite money or storage to pile up loads of miniatures they will never use anyway.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 20:47:18


Post by: Donomar


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I hope we make it. It's really sad to see that a lot of the more "down to earth" gaming projects struggle to fund lately, probably because people were spoiled by crazy campaigns that deliver 5kg of chinese PVC minis for $100. We had similar issues with Fireforge's HIPS Peasants/Zombies.


Agree to a degree but in many cases these Kickstarters drag people in with lots of offers and a reward based system in seeing a steady tier of things to be unlocked; this attracts attention and watching all the locked goals unlocking is similar to the videogame psychology of unlocking stuff with each level.

From what I have read there is another big reveal on Monday so looking forward to that! One question I was wondering, what size bases are the Forest Goblin troopers on? Hard to tell if they are on 20mm


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/02 21:16:38


Post by: NinthMusketeer


I really want to jump on this but also really shouldn't spend the money...


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/03 10:35:58


Post by: Esmer


 Donomar wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
I hope we make it. It's really sad to see that a lot of the more "down to earth" gaming projects struggle to fund lately, probably because people were spoiled by crazy campaigns that deliver 5kg of chinese PVC minis for $100. We had similar issues with Fireforge's HIPS Peasants/Zombies.


Agree to a degree but in many cases these Kickstarters drag people in with lots of offers and a reward based system in seeing a steady tier of things to be unlocked; this attracts attention and watching all the locked goals unlocking is similar to the videogame psychology of unlocking stuff with each level.

From what I have read there is another big reveal on Monday so looking forward to that! One question I was wondering, what size bases are the Forest Goblin troopers on? Hard to tell if they are on 20mm


From the campaign:



All items have been placed on the same base size (20mm square) to facilitate comparison. Miniatures from this project will be supplied with ROUND bases however, with the possibility for the backers to ask during their pledge manager to SWAP all round bases with square bases instead.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/04 10:09:06


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Running into... trouble!





And one more add-on revealed today, the Warborn Toad on 60mm base.





Last 3 days, que sera sera!
Thank you :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/04 23:12:54


Post by: Azazelx


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

I've posted some pics of the sisters earlier in the thread. What exactly would you like to see?


Full sprue shots would be amazing, as well as a few assembled, posed figures (with and without giant shoulderpads - if you have them). I'll filter the thread in a min and see what you've already posted. Thanks!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Pity that we will probably not be showing off vehicles, warmachines and other goodies we had in store for this project, we did leave some teasers and the promise to follow up on this however in order to complete the range, i.e. even if we don't unlock the Drotts &Drottchins (they unlock contemporaneously), the funding of the Forest Goblins project will make us commit to make the Drotts & Drottchins our very next KS project.


Very much hoping that this one funds - but please take the lesson here for the Drott/chins campaign - go all in with leveraging your catalogue of the army deal offers from Day 1 to give you that large initial boost. Also bear in mind that that boost by offering older stuff from previous campaigns will become smaller each time - because, for example, I've already got Shieldmaidens and Savage Orcs - and will then also have Fantasy Sisters and Forest Goblins - so the pool of stuff that your existing backerbase doesn't already have will slowly get smaller..

Even if you guys think your offerings are the best models ever (and you will, of course), it's up to the wider market, not what you guys think - more offerings from day 1 = more of a chance to fund quickly = more people stay in and get on with the SGs = more chance of snowball success, etc.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
I hope we make it. It's really sad to see that a lot of the more "down to earth" gaming projects struggle to fund lately, probably because people were spoiled by crazy campaigns that deliver 5kg of chinese PVC minis for $100. We had similar issues with Fireforge's HIPS Peasants/Zombies.


I think "spoiled for choice" is a better term than "spoiled", as the latter has a rather nasty undertone in English - and no manufacturer is more entitled than any other to a consumer's dollars - even if there's something that you or I or anyone else personally would like to see funded. Manufacturers offer up something, and if the wider market sees it as worthwhile enough, then it gets funded. If not, then it doesn't happen.

Speaking of "piles of models", Sarouan makes an excellent point - having gone through my KoW Vanguard pledge yesterday, it looks like I'll be keeping the resins and a few of the restic models while making a friend of a friend very happy with a ton of models that I will personally never get around to doing anything with when I have (for example) Stormcast to build and paint rather than Basileans. The HATE pledge on the other hand is/was a brilliant source of very nice monopose Chaos Marauders with a recycling box full of "game". Shadow of Brimstone has a lot of middling quality models with quite a good game. Plus the pretty huge boardgame crowd bumps many of these campaigns up dramatically, and many of the BG crowd aren't at all interested in non-boardgame multipart HIPS models like these or Fireforge. I've painted a total of two of my existng Shieldwolf models to date. Not because they're bad models or anything - but I have SO MANY models, and they haven't been things I've ended up working on (especially since I cycle through projects, and don't suddenly decide to change gears when a KS shows up 10-16 months later)

So basically, YMMV dramatically across campaigns. Speaking of "spoiled", look at Vigilus and the massive GW output of late. GW stuff is not a KS (obviously), but if you don't think their stuff isn't a direct competitor and money vacuum to minis KS campaigns (especially ones like this and Fireforge) then you're missing a big part of the puzzle. I'd say it has a lot more to do with the appeal of campaigns like this than you're taking into consideration - which is why I leaned into the "cost per goblin" point earlier.

The fact that I like Shieldwolf as a company and from my interaction with Angelos and the others on the personal level is the only reason I'm willing to pay now for the models this far out when there's GW stuff I'd like to purchase on the shelf right now.

Take someone similar to myself, but who doesn't know or care either way about SW, and their money will probably just go to the Night Goblins/Moonclan Grots/Gloomspite Gitz that are new & shiny & on sale today. That's a significant direct competition to this campaign. (And the Perry's stuff for much of the Fireforge offerings - and that's without considering if those potential backers like Space Marines or Chaos Marines or whatever as well.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 00:02:36


Post by: insaniak


Even without the scifi versions being unlocked, I would have potentially been interested in these for gretchin conversion fodder, but the more I looked at them, the less keen I was on the sculpts. They're competently done and nicely detailed, but for my money the heads need to be slightly smaller, and the poses more dynamic. As is, aside from the mirrored but otherwise identical legs, the only difference between most of these models is how many feathers there are on their heads.

If they were intended as square-base, rank-and-file models, you can get away with static posing. But once you put them on round bases and skirmish with them, the models need a little more variation.

The character models are ace, though.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 00:15:45


Post by: Azazelx


The heads being moulded onto the bodies is a pretty big drawback as well, to be quite honest. They look fine from the front, but the side and three-quarter views don't look good at all - again, I think this is a byproduct of being designed for WHFB-style ranked units.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 08:41:01


Post by: DaveC


61 hours to go $3,532 needed to fund - $58 an hour $1,413 per day


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 12:50:12


Post by: Mymearan


 insaniak wrote:
Even without the scifi versions being unlocked, I would have potentially been interested in these for gretchin conversion fodder, but the more I looked at them, the less keen I was on the sculpts. They're competently done and nicely detailed, but for my money the heads need to be slightly smaller, and the poses more dynamic. As is, aside from the mirrored but otherwise identical legs, the only difference between most of these models is how many feathers there are on their heads.

If they were intended as square-base, rank-and-file models, you can get away with static posing. But once you put them on round bases and skirmish with them, the models need a little more variation.

The character models are ace, though.


I agree. I assume this was done to appease the KoW and 9th Age crowds - but honestly, how big is that market, and especially the subset of it interested in such a niche army? Is it worth compromising sculpt quality to cater to rank-and-file fantasy forest goblin players?This question isn’t rhetorical, I’m not familiar with any KoW or 9th age players so I have no idea how popular the games are, nor if they have Forest Goblin armies in them.

Otherwise I tend to agree with azazelx, the timing of this campaign right after the Gloomspite Gita release is very unfortunate. Although I’m a bit surprised they didn’t capitalise on it by offering more proxies to some of the GW models - say, the Spiderfang Spider Riders which are old, monopose and in dire need of updating. It’s also a unit that was used in old WHFB, could be used in both 9th age and KoW, and still exists in AoS. That would surely be more popular than these (imo not very good-looking nor thematic) toad riders?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 13:49:19


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Sheildwolf are also working on their own game so I presume that that is rank and file as well which is influencing their design choices


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 14:07:27


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Mymearan wrote:

I agree. I assume this was done to appease the KoW and 9th Age crowds - but honestly, how big is that market, and especially the subset of it interested in such a niche army? Is it worth compromising sculpt quality to cater to rank-and-file fantasy forest goblin players?This question isn’t rhetorical, I’m not familiar with any KoW or 9th age players so I have no idea how popular the games are, nor if they have Forest Goblin armies in them.


Who the hell else would they cater to? That's the only market for a hundred non-GW goblins.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 15:55:00


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Mymearan wrote:

I agree. I assume this was done to appease the KoW and 9th Age crowds - but honestly, how big is that market, and especially the subset of it interested in such a niche army? Is it worth compromising sculpt quality to cater to rank-and-file fantasy forest goblin players?This question isn’t rhetorical, I’m not familiar with any KoW or 9th age players so I have no idea how popular the games are, nor if they have Forest Goblin armies in them.


Who the hell else would they cater to? That's the only market for a hundred non-GW goblins.


I tend to buy lots of HIPS minis so that I can build enough for a skirmish force (or Brimstone threat) and then have lots of bits for kitbashing. I know others who do the same. However, it's true I tend to back at lower levels than an Oldhammer player would. I am not pledging for these goblins because they just don't interest me, and the static poses are a part of that.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 19:06:34


Post by: insaniak


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Sheildwolf are also working on their own game so I presume that that is rank and file as well which is influencing their design choices

The goblins appear to have round bases, though...


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 19:55:31


Post by: DaveC


 insaniak wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Sheildwolf are also working on their own game so I presume that that is rank and file as well which is influencing their design choices

The goblins appear to have round bases, though...


Yep they are supplied with round bases but you can request square in the PM


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/05 20:53:33


Post by: Azazelx


The other relevant thing here is that these designs were done quite some time ago now, so things like the static poses and toads will have been sculpted and essentially finalised some time ago. The toads, as much as I dislike the actual designs, are clearly squig analogues. So while I dislike their execution, I understand why they are there.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 02:12:08


Post by: RiTides


That makes sense, of course, but with GW having just released a pretty incredible plastic kit for both squigs and squig riders, the toads just don't measure up, imo. They're also much too large as far as base size goes...

I do love that Steelgoth, but the centerpiece here is the gobbos, and their lack of dynamism definitely hurts...


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 05:55:25


Post by: Azazelx


No disagreement from me on any of those points, though I don't think they're necessarily supposed to be direct proxies for regular squig riders as much as "close enough" thematically.

No idea if there's a direct analogue for them in the WHFB8/9th Age Orc/Goblin army, myself.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 07:26:31


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


 Azazelx wrote:
No idea if there's a direct analogue for them in the WHFB8/9th Age Orc/Goblin army, myself.


Actually there isn't, this is our own design for our own game. Which we believe brings some fresh ideas to the community. :-)

We are down to the last 48 hours, if all this doesn't cut it, then it was never meant to be...



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 12:23:12


Post by: DaveC


And it’s funded 33 hours left hopefully it reaches the Master Archer


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 12:33:14


Post by: ingtaer


Good to hear, well done Shieldwolf.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 16:34:29


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Thank you everyone! VERY happy to have made it, a hug to each and everyone of the 250+ backers.
:-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 16:46:53


Post by: lord_blackfang


I look forward to my 150 goblins. Should be enough for a full KoW army including warmacine crew conversions, etc, so everything has a unified look.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/06 21:44:33


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Getting me a hodgepodge of everybody and everything.

A few goblins, some sisters, maybe some resin goodies post kickstarter if I can clear out some other stuff...

I'm more interested in picking up a few boxes of each faction for skirmish purposes rather than full armies.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/07 06:16:00


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Final 15 hours. We will be showing more on the Command pieces and information of what will happen to that in like 6-7 hours, we need an answer back and we'll share with everyone involved.


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Wolfcast, first time put in mass production. We are very curious to see what people think about our new process!



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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Just dropping by to thank everyone involved, even if they considered and not backed all the same. Perhaps we'll entice you next time, no onwards to deliver to everyone's satisfaction this one at hand :-)



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/09 14:58:44


Post by: Sarouan


Congratulations for this project ! This was not for me, but I'm very glad the market will have another box of plastic goblins available. More choice is always nice to have.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/09 15:11:51


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Well done, very please you got there even if I could only offer token support


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/10 04:19:42


Post by: Azazelx


Yep, big congrats on getting this one funded. I had to drop from $100 to $50 since I'm very tight for funds right now, but I waited until it as safely funded, and I can always add it back in via PM later on.

Next time when it's Goblins V2, please consider going ALL IN from the start with those extra army pledges and options to get the campaign (closer to) funded from the start, and so people are aware of the options from Day 1. No idea how many backers may have taken a look and then left who might have added for Sisters of Shieldmaidens or Orcs, etc but never even knew to check out the campaign later on. The faster it's funded, the better it is for everyone involved.

Regardless, very glad to see it succeeded.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/03/10 06:07:03


Post by: ArtIsGreat


Looking forward to space gobbos or maybe those spider women previewed way back


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/05 10:08:01


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


The Forest Goblins might well be in the works and will only get to see the light of day (or retail, whatever you prefer!) early next year, but we have other factions created and eager to see more for them!
So, here's terrain fromTalliareum made available, we'll be making Krumvaal Northern Alliance (our nordic barbarian faction) terrain available in the very next days!

Here are the YouTube videos if you liek to have a look!

Thank you.

Kingdom of Talliareum (human) Terrain



Krumvaal Northern Alliance (nordic barbarians) Terrain




Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/05 11:14:30


Post by: StygianBeach


Nice, but I how is the situation with buying plastic paladins in Germany.

About 6 weeks ago I emailed Battlefield Berlin which replied they should be getting a new shipment in 2 weeks (about 4 weeks ago) but they are still not available.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/05 11:56:43


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@willb2064
Thank you.

@StygianBeach
We have no outstanding orders from our retailers, last shipment was to a retailer in Poland.
If Battlefield Berlin has any issues with any of their orders placed I am pretty sure they'd contact us, we praise ourselves for the relationships we hold with our retailers.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/05 17:13:56


Post by: Original Timmy


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
The Forest Goblins might well be in the works and will only get to see the light of day (or retail, whatever you prefer!) early next year, but we have other factions created and eager to see more for them!
So, here's terrain fromTalliareum made available, we'll be making Krumvaal Northern Alliance (our nordic barbarian faction) terrain available in the very next days!

Here are the YouTube videos if you liek to have a look!

Thank you.

Spoiler:
Kingdom of Talliareum (human) Terrain



Krumvaal Northern Alliance (nordic barbarians) Terrain




Very nice terrain, how much will the Krumvaal items be? very interested in the tree guard tower.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/05 17:35:28


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Timmy
We will be making the Krumvaal items available in the very next days. I don't know if one can realize it from the video, the tree house in particular weighs more than 1one and a half kilos(!), it is literally HUGE!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/05 21:18:59


Post by: Original Timmy


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@Timmy
We will be making the Krumvaal items available in the very next days. I don't know if one can realize it from the video, the tree house in particular weighs more than 1one and a half kilos(!), it is literally HUGE!


Nice but maybe not for the wallet lol, il certainly be keeping an eye on this thread and its payday in 10 days


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 02:38:22


Post by: Ian Sturrock


The terrain looks... good in parts. If it's almost as detailed as Tabletop World but much cheaper, I may pick up some.

You need to get your sculptors out there and visiting medieval buildings and taking reference photos though. The stonework, in particular, rarely looks quite right. Too many big square stones; too many archways that don't have the correct construction (the bridge arch is much better than the gatehouse arch but still not quite right); and the interaction between the timber frame and stone wall on the smaller building also looks wrong.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 07:50:55


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Ian Sturrock
Ours is more affordable and it's also much larger than Tabletop World's 25-28mm scale compared to our 28mm heroic (thus more like 32mm). That's the reason we placed our miniatures in the videos. Those of you who have one of our Shieldmaiden miniatures (for the time being the staple of Shieldwolf Miniatures) in their hands will better comprehend the size of the items in offer.
We have heard of Tabletop World and it does some really exquisite terrain, thought they too will have to agree that Shieldwolf has come to fill in the gap in the larger scale for our hobby. We have kept the range very affordable, there's NO Kickstarter with immediate delivery of the items, and we allow free shipping in the larger items. Worldwide.

As far as detail and sculpt aesthetics, all feedback is welcome. We took our time with these (infact delaying the release for over a year, also because this is not via crowdfunding), as the goal of the company is to outclass everyone else in this category.
People will be the judge of that as we count on their support. We appreciate your consideration. :-)



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 13:22:43


Post by: RiTides


On the treehouse - if you put the joint just below the walkway, instead of just above, it would be really well hidden!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 13:58:06


Post by: zedmeister


My My those are nice terrain pieces. Presumably these are in resin?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 17:20:33


Post by: Illumini


That tree house is really cool


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 18:29:06


Post by: Alpharius


We need some walls to go along with that gate and bridge, please!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/07 18:40:11


Post by: Yodhrin


Wasn't going to say anything, but since you're making claims that folk may read and act upon - TTW's buildings are not out of scale for "heroic 28mm"/32mm. Some of their first, small, early range were more towards the oldschool/historical conception of 28mm, but that stopped years ago and doesn't apply to any of their current range to my knowledge.

I don't know how they'll scale in relation to your stuff, that depends on whether you've chosen to enlarge things beyond "in scale" to account for models being on bases.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/08 01:31:38


Post by: Azazelx


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
we allow free shipping in the larger items. Worldwide.


This should be front and centre in all of your mentions of these products. When I saw your first post, I thought "those look nice" followed by "large pieces of heavy resin from the other side of the world - ah well, I won't be getting those" and then not even bothering to look at the website. I'm sure many hobbyists from the US (never mind Aussies and Kiwis) would have had similar thoughts.


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Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Zedmeister
Affirmative, our resin, the same we use in our minis and not lower quality due to the big costs of casting items of this size.

@Alpharius @Illumini
Thank you.
*taking notes* :-)

@Yodhrin
We are not making any claims, I merely stated what I saw. I didn't know they have different scales nor was I the one who even mentioned them, we are still hobbyists and the one building that I saw myself however was what I said. Stunning, but smaller. I think it's fair enough? :-)

@Azazelx
Yes, we have always been very competitive with shipping costs but if some people haven't realized that then it's our fault as we didn't succeed in communicating it properly. I appreciate you pointing this out. We have fixed the images plus uploaded the new Krumvaal items, now available at the webstore.

Thank you for your consideration.

Krumvaal Chieftess House


Krumvaal Water Well


Krumvaal Guard Treehouse


http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=60


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Post by: Original Timmy


Spoiler:


@Shield Wolf It would be good to get a pic of a mini next to the terrain to get a sense of scale and also some measurements on the tree house please,

I better start saving like mad now especially with the PM not far away!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/11 16:17:55


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Original Timmy

The items are not in our HQ as they are in the Studio where the video presentation was shot.
I did take some screenshots if that's of any help though :-)









Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/11 19:36:45


Post by: Original Timmy


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@Original Timmy

The items are not in our HQ as they are in the Studio where the video presentation was shot.
I did take some screenshots if that's of any help though :-)

Spoiler:








@Shieldwolf, Thanks yes that is great, the tree house is certainly a bad boy and the Chieftess house is bigger than i thought which is good


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/06/20 17:22:25


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Work work work... :-)
Pledge Manager for the Forest Goblins Kickstarter is now open (update #16).
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-goblins/description

It closes down on July 31st, 2019.

Thank you.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/07/24 16:40:51


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Depiste the heat things are moving forward, only 1 week left for the Pledge Manager to be closed though. :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/17 14:53:41


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


After the awesome response our Sisters of Faith received for our opening to the science fiction wargaming community, more futuristic goodies see the light of day in our webstore!
This time it's the nordic race of our sci-fi world, with more goodies waiting to show up! :-)




The Sisters of Wolves are the descendants of the Krumvaal Northern Alliance, so they descend directly from our Shieldmaidens (just like our Sisters of Talliareum are the predecessors of our Sisters of Faith). The plan is to release a total of 4 factions with full playable armies by the end of 2020.
Thank you all for your consideration and support.


http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=83


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/17 16:13:58


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The Sisterhood of the Wolf looks great. Will they be plastic miniatures? If so, will there be enough helmeted heads to make all the sisters with helmets? Even more than the Sisters of Faith, I'd like these Wolf Sisters to have helmets.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/17 16:28:05


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


There's going to be a Kickstarter early 2020 for an entire sci-fi army in which there's going to be a hard-plastic kit planned, affirmative. We can't reveal more than that atm.
What I can state is that if the project performs really well, we will have stretch goals for more kits and armies, but we aren't counting that much on crowdfunding like previous years.
If it goes really well, great. If not, let it fund and we are cool all the same. The company is creating high quality ranges in order to supply our world and our game; little by little we are getting there!



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/17 22:40:00


Post by: Jerram


Looking forward to it, hopefully you can capture the look of those heroines in a plastic kit, if so. I'm in.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/18 14:36:31


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


The theme's going to be the same, yes.
The Sisters of wolves are going to be a SG army though, not the main dish of our next kickstarter.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/18 15:17:01


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


You know what would be nice? Wolf helmets for the wolf sisters.

I really liked the sister kits, especially how the fantasy and sci fi bits were easy to use with both.

I'm still waiting for the War Maidens too!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/18 15:59:07


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Highlord
Wolf helmets... sure, that would be an easy addition!
There's so much people can do however even without the additional pieces, these pictures came into our attention a single day(!) before the release of the Sisters of Wolves.
Check them out, the guy who posted them comes under the name "nordic_painter", credit to him/her!






The sky is the limit! :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/09/18 16:17:32


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The paint job looks great. The models are awesome. Dropping the Torah on the ground? Not cool. I don't even like putting James Patterson books on the ground.


I'm curious what those characters on the base are. Aurabesh inspired runes? A mix of Hebrew and Katakana?


But seriously, cool minis, and I look forward to the (helmeted) Wolf sisters.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 16:04:29


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


We will be sending out a survey to see in what order our next Kickstarter is going to set it's Stretch Goals.
In the meanwhile we would like you to write down your wishlist here at Dakka. What new army would you like us to create next?! :-)

Thank you.

PS. Picture for attention!



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 17:03:11


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


If you guys want to try making bigger and meaner looking lizard, I wouldn't mind.

Otherwise what about those male Krumvaal heavy infantry? I know we saw a render of one a LONG time ago.

Or the spider girls in plastic?


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 17:11:41


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


How about some retro steampunk/diesel punk space infantry?

Diving suit looking space suits and ray guns.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 17:17:56


Post by: Sacredroach


+1 for the Spider Girls.

I would also be interested in some Dune-style Fremen or Sardaukar-like troops with aforementioned diesel punk weaponry...


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 17:48:40


Post by: Gallahad


Well, there are currently zero nice heroic scale "good guy" elf kits on the market.

Mantic have their fae skeleton elves and oathmark have their 25mm ones. Don't know how large of a market there would be, but the nice GW Island of Blood elves still command high prices on eBay.

If you want something with more cross over for current Games I'd go with Male barbarians aimed at getting ahead of the eventual GW darkoath release.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 21:14:58


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Last Sword make some great good guy elves, although they are not as heroic as GW’s. Also, they are plastic resin...but nice!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/07 21:29:16


Post by: Gallahad


 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Lastord make some great good guy elves, although they are not as heroic as GW’s. Also, they are plastic resin...but nice!

Sure, there are plenty of decent elves in metal or resin. I am talking about sweet sweet plastic Bob. Plastic good guy elves that don't look like malnourished children next to other common fantasy miniatures.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/08 06:55:02


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Started a poll right here.
Should make things easier for everyone (since the Aracnomaidens/Aracnowraths for example alone are a dual kit at the likes of $60,000 so that's very unlikely to fund by itself if we start with that!)

Thank you.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/781138.page#10592588


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/08 08:13:53


Post by: Justyn


There's going to be a Kickstarter early 2020 for an entire sci-fi army in which there's going to be a hard-plastic kit planned, affirmative. We can't reveal more than that atm.
What I can state is that if the project performs really well, we will have stretch goals for more kits and armies, but we aren't counting that much on crowdfunding like previous years.
If it goes really well, great. If not, let it fund and we are cool all the same. The company is creating high quality ranges in order to supply our world and our game; little by little we are getting there!


I hope the fur on the back is an accessory that does not have to be added. It would be silly for every single tank to have an identical piece of fur on it.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/08 08:25:47


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@Justyn
The fur on the wolf tanks is cast as a separate piece and does not have to be added, affirmative.

However our early 2020 sci-fi KS does not start with the Sisters of Wolves (nor will they be even mentioned during the KS either for that matter as a possible SG. We plan to unlock specific factions first, complementing our sci-fi range.
IF the project reaches high enough and we are given the chance to also create the SoW, great. If not, let's fund and all is great all the same!)
:-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/10 08:03:52


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Link to the SCI-FI poll is now available

https://shieldwolfminiatures.typeform.com/to/MEmtXP

Thank you for your time and consideration! :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/10 16:42:54


Post by: FlubDugger


Sci-fi rats with gas masks is my one and only Christmas wish; fingers crossed


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/10 17:03:20


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Mantic already make those in plastic, board game plastic, restic, metal and resin.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/10 20:09:24


Post by: FlubDugger


Not a fan of those ones; I'm confident Shieldwolf could do a better take on them. Also would be down for retro dIving suits with ray guns


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/14 19:51:28


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


FlubDugger wrote:Sci-fi rats with gas masks is my one and only Christmas wish; fingers crossed


BobtheInquisitor wrote:Mantic already make those in plastic, board game plastic, restic, metal and resin.


FlubDugger wrote:Not a fan of those ones; I'm confident Shieldwolf could do a better take on them. Also would be down for retro dIving suits with ray guns


LOL years ago someone on the Miniatures Page forum let out a long explanation why things don't get made. Part of it was:

"I want Flatulent Grenadiers for the War of Jenkins Ear."
"'Ere you go governor! Just cast them up!"
"Sorry, no. These are 20mm Heroic and I want 20mm realistic so they can scale with the Flatulent Grenadiers I got 20 years ago from guy who cast them in garage."

That must be what it's like to be a mini maker.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/14 19:52:36


Post by: skarsol


 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Started a poll right here.
Should make things easier for everyone (since the Aracnomaidens/Aracnowraths for example alone are a dual kit at the likes of $60,000 so that's very unlikely to fund by itself if we start with that!)

Thank you.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/781138.page#10592588


How long have you guys been teasing the Aracnomaidens for now? :(


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/14 21:12:32


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


FlubDugger wrote:
Not a fan of those ones; I'm confident Shieldwolf could do a better take on them. Also would be down for retro dIving suits with ray guns


What makes you think you’d like Shieldwolf’s any more than Mantic’s? For that matter, how is Shieldwolfsupposed to make money pursuing a niche market that is already almost-but-not-quite completely served? Have you tried just buying some Skaven and giving them guns?

There are some retro diving suit aliens in plastic in the Shadows of Brimstone line, with some armed versions coming out next year.


@Skarsol, these are arachnomaidens, sir, not arachnomadams! Arachnomaidens do not tease, they court, and a gentleman always displays patience.


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/15 14:42:31


Post by: RiTides


Well, for my part I've also craved more sci-fi rat options but it probably isn't the biggest niche to fill, since they can't counts-as anything GW (or at least, not as easily as other options).

I think it's hard to tell on a forum what would truly have the highest demand - the poll is a great idea, and if you settle on one maybe you could make a test render and see what the reaction is here / on social media / etc. Then if the reception isn't as strong as expected, you could change course easily without investing too much.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with next!


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/10/15 17:54:07


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@skarsol
We will be making these available directly via retail, there have been issues with their moulds however and that has been obstructing the entire release.
It costs us more money than you think, the faster we make these available the better for everyone. We will not release anything however that doesn't pass QC, and these have not been passing it; simple as that.

@RiTides
Unfortunately for companies our size apparently a single test render doesn't suffice, people are used to seeing the "whole picture" nowadays on KS (which for us it should not be necessary, but let's not derail the matter). Therefore we are putting a whole lot of more skin and crossing our fingers the Science Fiction community will like what they see.
Our current poll (along with the eminent email survey) should provide a more clear picture, on the poll alone we are expecting more than 1000 votes casted.

https://shieldwolfminiatures.typeform.com/to/MEmtXP


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/11/29 11:23:45


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


The plastic sprues of the Forest Goblins have arrived at Athens.
Currently the schedule is to mail these to our backers on December (a month earlier than estimated on Kickstarter) and put them up for retail late January.



Afterwhich we will see what our 2nd sci-fi plastic kit will be, after delivering our sisters more than a year ago!
YOU decide :-)


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/11/30 10:39:42


Post by: Huginn


Assemble them and photo them please


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/11/30 16:24:33


Post by: Gallahad


Great job guys! Delivering even earlier than predicted on KS has to be some sort of a new record.



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/11/30 20:41:04


Post by: lord_blackfang


Looking great, glad I pledged for an army's worth


Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/12/02 17:51:45


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


@lord_blackfang @Gallahad
Thank you!

@Huginn
We'll do that. Currently too busy with sorting out orders for our backers :-)
We believe they will enjoy what we have created.



Shieldwolf Miniatures (Official News thread) --------- Imperium Desertum - Immortalis FINAL HOURS! @ 2019/12/02 22:56:38


Post by: ingtaer


They do look pretty nice, hope to see some assembled and painted before much longer. Well done on delivering early SW!