As suggested by Squid_herder

Pen and paper.

Gws list builder

Pen and paper everytime. Sometimes I might then transfer it onto a fancy sheet, (mainly for games like Mordheim) but during construction always on a pad.

Lone Wolf's Army Builder.

seriously worth every penny I spent on it.

Microsoft Word, mostly because I havn't considered using an alternitive yet. Would someone like to tell me about these army builders? or point me to a place where I can learn about them?

Notepad every time. Clear, easy to edit, quick and simple. Closest thing to paper a computer can provide you with.

On notepad or on dakka

When I am at home or have my lappy handy, then it's lone wolf all the way, just because it is so easy to use and play around with the list.

Otherwise, pen and paper wok fine.

alice40k.tripod.com

It has some really nice and convenient army list creators.... and its free.

Lone Wolf Armybuilder FTW!!!

This thing is AWSOME, and worth every cent!!!

in a notebook or on one of those army sheets from the gw site.

Nice to see a lot people still use a pen and paper =)
Hardcore.

ArmyBuilder, but I'm getting more and more frustrated with it. Stupid licencing rules and inept list updaters are getting to the point where I'm about to write my own online version that can be accessed anywhere.

Custom spreadsheets! I used to even load in drop downs and conditional formatting... I use Excel at work so when things get slow...

I use army builder but also use the good ole' pen and paper method at times as well.

A combination of the Army Builder and Pen and paper...but pen and paper is my staple!

If ever there was a poll which should have been multiple choice...

I use Army Builder for 40K and Fantasy, but can't stand using it for Warmachine. For that, iBodger or using paper and cards is so much simpler.

LunaHound wrote:On notepad or on dakka

Nice to see someone else using the right tool for the job.

Spreadsheets, which I add necessary formulas to.

I was actually surprised that not as many people did this as everyone in my group does. My list ideas always start on paper though.

You should be able to select multiple choices... I build lists differently from time to time... some times pen and paper.... sometimes army builder... sometimes ibodger... sometimes cookie monster...

Paper or an army builder i found on the interweb called "the forge". Its great once you know how to use it + its free!

Whatever I have avalible at the time will suffice, but once I'm ready to actually play the army it goes into a spreadsheet.

Pen and paper all the way. It usually makes me the only guy with a non-army builder list, but I still type it up, convert it to pdf and print it when I'm going to an event.

Pen and Paper all of the time.

My brother uses the GW list builder.

I am addicted to my Itouch. i just go to the notes section and write my list there since its much more easier to carry than paper and is harder to lose than paper .

Alice 40k
it's free and it works
but it sucks if you're guard

Nodepad+calculator+printer

What's an army list? I honestly don't know, is it just as the name says? Or is it slightly different?

pen and paper

Pen, paper and a Bondsman No. 7.

excel or pen and paper
my friend gets really penickity and makes fething pie charts to show his troop/elite/hq/etc points ratios

Whats Lone Wolfs army builder!?

Pen and Paper is the only way! The real way, and the best way. It should be a personal thing.


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Just had a look there to see what this army builder list building thing is all about and tried it and its terrible.

Really awkward, fiddley, some of the wargear options were missing and the printable versions dont look good.

Pen and Paper wins the day!

Paper and pencil usually, but I use the Forge if I'm feeling lazy.

As a long time army builder user, I can say that all of the criticism here is completely accurate.

They sell you this wonky outdated license that expires if you want support, and while your product will function beyond that, quit supporting their old product as soon as they move to a new version. Add to that the fact that they don't even maintain the data files; the USERS have to take it upon themselves to create the data files. They're really just selling you a glorified spread-sheet. For the money it costs, you should get SOME level of actual company support for the datafiles.

To make matters even worse with Lone Wolf's product, GW struck a deal with them to not even allow data files from new codex's for at least 3 months, if I recall correctly. For example, when the new Codex Space Marines came out, it took me 4 months of pen and papering it before I could even download the datafile, and that file was so full of errors (it is a user generated product after all) that I almost gave up on it. Unfortunately, no one has written anything better yet, so this is what we're stuck with.

Someone, please save us from this horrible product; I promise you'll get my money!!!

Always use word.

Those army builders are worthless, just another way for them to get money off you.

But I guess some people just can't do simple math?

Pen and paper every time. Its the only thing i ever have close when i finally feel like writing my list.

grayspark wrote:
But I guess some people just can't do simple math?

There's no need to be insulting.

It has little to do with simple math, and lots to do with the ability to make fairly involved changes rapidly, without having to keep flipping back and forth in the books, while also having some level of validation performed for you so you don't miss anything.

Microsoft Word + Calculator when needed.. Or well, most of the time as I'm lazy. =P

Good Old Skool Classic Pen and Paper.

I made a template in Quark, then I can just copy + paste and then fill in the text. It looks fairly nice imo.

Just had some nice insights with this poll... learnt about alice40k, Lone Wolf's Army Builder...

Some nice tools, but...

I still prefer my pen & paper!!!

Pen and paper for friendly games. Tournaments or competitive games I use the Army Builder and print it out.

Pen and paper low tech style.

Pen + Paper, spread out where it will inconvenience the most amount of people.

Paper and pen is old school and i think alot more personal, not to mention cheaper.

Pen and paper, with several lists crammed into the tinyest space, then i keep on until ive narrowed it down to 1 or 2 new lists and transfer them to a new piece of paper, which eventually gets clogged up with new list ideas... meh... i get bored on the bus.

grayspark wrote:Always use word.

Those army builders are worthless, just another way for them to get money off you.

But I guess some people just can't do simple math?

Every point in that except the fact that you use word I would disagree with....

The army list builder I use is fast, easy, and free. Thus, it doesn't take money from me.

I also know far more than simple math, and I use a list builder because it is fast, and easy to make changes to your list quickly, and you don't have to constantly look up point values!

Lonewolf mostly to verify.
Pen and paper for compiling.

I use Lone Wolf's Army Builder, worth every cent and then some more.

It turns Army Building from an hour of annoyance to 5 mins of epic win.

grayspark wrote:Always use word.

Those army builders are worthless, just another way for them to get money off you.

But I guess some people just can't do simple math?

They're nice because no one is going to accuse you of fudging numbers then insisting on wasting twenty minutes looking up all the point costs in your army.

Luco wrote:

grayspark wrote:Always use word.

Those army builders are worthless, just another way for them to get money off you.

But I guess some people just can't do simple math?

They're nice because no one is going to accuse you of fudging numbers then insisting on wasting twenty minutes looking up all the point costs in your army.

You know what the funniest part of graysparks post was?

Where he tells people to use a $280 program instead of OpenOffice, which is both Legally Free and actually better, then accuses the army builder programs as "worthless" and "just another way for them to get money off you."

All I can say is...

Army builder is nice, I would much rather use that...

Alas! I will be stuck quadruple checking my math before the tournament.

Print it up on word.

Pen and paper mostly. Old school. Simple arithmetic is not something I need a calculator for.

When I have time, and I'm at home, I'll pull up AB and do it (when I'm at my club, I don't have a computer with me - but the codex and notepaper do fine).

If I'm doing the validation of tourney lists, I'll use AB in conjunction with the relevant codex to check on legality of units and whether or not points are accurate.

I also make up the lists according to what models I have and what they are armed with.

[I do have over 100 marines, with multiples of special weapons, and at least 3 of each heavy weapon, and 'sgt' models with various gear, so my squads ARE all WYSIWYG.
If I don't have the model (or suitable replacement) then I don't use it. I don't proxy weapons as other weapons. Vehicles may be scratchbuilds, but the relevant options are included and they ARE representative]

Gwar! wrote:

Luco wrote:

grayspark wrote:Always use word.

Those army builders are worthless, just another way for them to get money off you.

But I guess some people just can't do simple math?

They're nice because no one is going to accuse you of fudging numbers then insisting on wasting twenty minutes looking up all the point costs in your army.

You know what the funniest part of graysparks post was?

Where he tells people to use a $280 program instead of OpenOffice, which is both Legally Free and actually better, then accuses the army builder programs as "worthless" and "just another way for them to get money off you."

All I can say is...

lol! Perhaps he has an old computer that had it free? I miss those days.

I would love Armybuilder...but I have a Mac and its not worth running an emulator......Now...what would be REALLY cool would be ArmyBuilder for Iphone/Ipad or droid....

YetiSchool wrote:I would love Armybuilder...but I have a Mac and its not worth running an emulator......Now...what would be REALLY cool would be ArmyBuilder for Iphone/Ipad or droid....

Use Wine. Works fine for me on Linux.

On a related note....

Wondering if anyone does what I do... Designate models for each unit, to a set point cost, then choose which units to use based on how many points for the game?

@ helgrenze :

My approach is quite the same : I model the minis according to the codex options, [b]then[/] calculate the cost point of their unit, then, as you do,

helgrenze wrote: choose which units to use based on how many points for the game

...

Not very cost- or game- efficient, since most of the time I end up modelling options that are very costly and not so powerful in game terms... But I like highly customized units anyway, so...

Pen and paper when I'm brainstorming ideas or trying to get the main parts of the army down.

Army Builder to produce the final list. Very handy for when I'm tweaking a list. ("If I drop the pintle mounted storm bolters from all the Rhinos, can I afford that Lascannon?", stuff like that)

While I prefer pen and paper, I have screwed up the math a couple of times... where is this Games Workshop one that is referenced here?

I was a long time pen and paper'er(?) but I have started converting all of my lists to spreadsheets which I put up on Google Docs. Now I can access my list from any computer and my phone. If I ever get the time to get fancy with the spreadsheets I will probably make it a list building spreadsheet instead of just a simple line item entry and totaling tool, but finding the time is always key

Army builder for warhammer 40k and fantasy ( I really hate the license updates though, and the fact that there's no App or Mac version yet ) . Ibodger for anything PP. Just works better.

I usually use army builder from my local hobby shop. I don't feel like paying for all the updates myself. Otherwise I like to use excel.

Pen, Paper, & Calculator are the standard, though I will dive into Army Builder sometimes.

Just too many bugs in the program currently.

Couldn't pick two but: Pen and Paper as well as Excel

Army Building, I play lots of games and it does 4 i play. Interested to see most that reply use pen and paper and us Army Builders are too busy to post?

I currently use Excel for my lists. I typically use a building block system at 250 point increments, and since I don't change my lists that much it works great for me. Took me a while to get everything setup, but now that it's up and going, it's a breeze to just print the sheets and get started.

I use a combo of Word and pen and paper

I use dakka dakka...

I use Alice 40k, its free and available here,

http://www.alice40k.tripod.com/calculators.html

Found out about it on dakka, in an old post

I'm using my own custom coded solution that I'm building in php/mysql as a module for phpbb3. It isn't nearly complete yet though. Once it is, it will be going live with a certain 40k website I'm working.

Notepad. Makes it easy to send on to Dakka or Vassel. Pen and paper is my backup for when I can't use the laptop

I always do it with pen and paper, then transfer to word for torneys.

The Forge ftw!

Anyone could enlighten me about The Forge?

Pen & Paper to calculate and then transfered onto Word

I've been using Army Buidler since I started playing 40k. It has really made it easy for me to figure out what I want in my IG list, and to make tweaks as I go along.

EDIT: Sorry, double post. Internet at work is running like today.

Woo! Microsoft Word all the way!

Army builder. I use to do the list on a spreadsheet but it was taking to long to make lists and check test builds.

Used to use Army Builder for 40k, till their owner decided to be a douchecanoe. Now I typically use pen and paper, or iBodger for WM/H.

I use OpenOffice, but not the spreadsheets. Just the word processor with a table and some sum functions.

I use the online codex (http://www.onlinecodex.de) for army lists. Like the Armybuilder just for free^^

-Nazdreg- wrote:I use the online codex (http://www.onlinecodex.de) for army lists. Like the Armybuilder just for free^^

That's awesome...if you can read German! Is there an English version?

Unfortunately only IG has an english version included. Because I mostly play IG, it is perfect for me, I have both

I would use pen and paper if i had the books. I have online copies of the book so its always notepad for me.

Pen and paper... Plus a calculator 'cause I'm an art student and we dun do the maffs.

I recently started using the Battlescribe software that I found posted about on DakkaDakka.

I rather like it.

Good old fasioned pen and paper

Pen and paper...

I use the Forward Kommander website.

A friend of mine came up with a spreadsheet on his laptop so I copied his on my own for a while, but I grew to not like it over time. I revamped it to my own style, making room to have all my stats and rules listed. It really limits how much time I spend looking up my own rules and speeds games along nicely.

With a calculator. I take out what I need from my army box, tally that up, remove extras, then *poof* an army with the correct amount of points.

Honersstodnt wrote:Lone Wolf's Army Builder.

seriously worth every penny I spent on it.

I agree. Its irritating when people make paper lists. I swear most of them have little integrity.

However, Army Builder is often wrong as well. You opponent should let you check his list.

pen and paper have been my tools until I can find something better

Google Docs.

That way I can pull it up anywhere.

The Forge.

Honersstodnt wrote:Lone Wolf's Army Builder.

I downloaded the demo, but I don't understand it.
Pen and paper for me. Rarely on word.

djdutton wrote:pen and paper have been my tools until I can find something better

http://www.alice40k.tripod.com/calculators.html

I have army builder, but i find i use the pen and paper route way more. I usually get the math spot on with MEQ, but for other armies that arent made up of 5s and 10s army builder takes the headache of fiddling out of it for me

Pen and paper. Tried out The Forge after reading through the posts.
Took a few for me to figure it out. I started a test list and went to print preview....very disappointed with how it had my upgrades scattered everywhere and the fact that when it showed each character, it listed every possible upgrade.
I added a pred and it had my lord upgrades on it><
Any way to get The Forge NOT to do this?
pm me with info please.

Army Builder is awesome, but building a list on paper helps me to remember unit stats costs etc. I try to run my paper lists through Army Builder just make sure I did not screw up and buy something I'm not allowed.

Other; I use pen and paper then transfer it to a word document/notepad file for safe-keeping and forum posting. I also run it through the windows calculator to make sure.

If I write it on the computer, I transfer it to paper due to my lack of a printer.

Codex in hand + notepad on the laptop = profit.

EDIT: Almost exactly as the poster above, in fact.

PnP or spreadsheet.

At home pen and paper, the store

Army Builder @ 50c for ink/paper/etc

Spreadsheets. Would use Army builder but I'm cheap, and I don't think it works on Linux.

I just open my codex,plan out an army on paper,then just stick to it.

Microsoft Word and a calculator is all I need. Oh and the armybook ofcourse.

Pen and Paper; nice and simple!

Pen and paper, but once I'm happy with it I'll put it in word.

With whatever I darn well feel like
If it does well, I'll save it . If not, well... FOOOM!

Pen and paper, quite often receipt paper from the shop i play at haha...

Army Builder or pen and paper.

GW has list building stuff?

pen and paper, then when I like it, i type it up for tourneys

Spreadsheet, as it allows me to sum up quickly and change things easily without having to recalculate. I can also set up 'points remaining' to know how much more I need to spend or if I can slot something in I know costs x amount.

It's more flexible than an army builder, and if there are any problems I can change it myself.

Lone wolfs army builder??

Whats that?

Pencil and paper, since i can then use a gum to remove something if i did something wrong.
Then i type it on my PC, and print it.
Since i am the only one able to read my handwriting

Word or pen and papers what I do.

I finally gave in and paid for Army Builder, and I gotta say it is worth the money if you're iffy on what you can and can't have. It will check to see if everything in your list is legal.

Pen and paper since it is usually the fastest.

Nothin but notepad and a codex

Pen and paper. what can I say, I'm a traditionalist

Real wargamers use pen and paper

I use a combo of pen/paper and Microsoft Word

For those who don't use ArmyBuilder... why?
Is it
A) Personal Preference
B) Cost
C) Too hard
D) Incorrect Data Files
E) Pen+Paper is easier/portable
F) Other/Combination?

I like using Armybuilder, especially when I'm at higher points values, and especially for Fantasy. The ability to change unit count easily multiple times is invaluable when trying to squeeze maximum value out of those last few points. When I try to to the same thing by hand the paper ends up so scribbled over it is illegible, and I still couldn't tell you if I ended up with 8 or 9 models in the squad.

Generally, I work out my list with Armybuilder, and then for a Tournament i'll print it out nicely with Word - I find armybuilder has too much on the sheet, when all your opponent really wants to know is the number of models and what equipment.

Trasvi wrote:For those who don't use ArmyBuilder... why?
Is it
A) Personal Preference
B) Cost
C) Too hard
D) Incorrect Data Files
E) Pen+Paper is easier/portable
F) Other/Combination?

A, B, C and D.

PS: F – Army builder sheets give me headaches.

Depends!

Tourny!
Text Document, laid out and in pristine order and condition.


Saturday/any day gaming. Pen & Paper (sometimes, whatever can be written on.)

Pen and paper and then this app called iroster40k. also where could i get the gw sheets?

Battlescribe and Army Creator on the Android

Yeah, I have to say Battlescribe, and only after having two computers crash and had to go through the licensing thing with AB all over again. Basically bought it again...

So now I help maintain and work on the Battlescribe data files, so I am a little biased. But when I can throw together the basic framework for a list in a few hours, then use it and keep improving it as I go, makes me quite happy. That and it's free.

Pen and paper all the way. I'm just old skool!

Pen and paper, works like a charm. And besides I can do at work

The Forge

thedigitalfoundry.com/forge

I use Second Sphere's army list creator.

Ive been using microsoft excel, its pretty nice, I'm still learning the ins and outs but I've got it set up to be pretty easy to change things around and since I'm working on 2 armies at the same time i can have it do all the math so they stay even and all i have to do is obsess over what wargear looks coolest.
Soon I'd like to figure out how to the do the "drop downs" and the "if thens" in the program and it would be pretty much like any other army builder software.

A finger and the snow.

That's how we do it in Canada, Eh?

Pen(cil) and paper FTW!!!!

Pen and paper, I have most of the points values memorised so speed isn't really an issue. If it had to look nice I have some nice typesetting templates I made up back in 1st year uni

I use Online Codex, a German freeware project. Allows me to build an army list very quickly.

I use excel as it can add points for me and I can split the categories up how I want. Plus it costs less than army builder.

http://www.alice40k.tripod.com download your army file for free

Other, easyarmy.com, for all my Flames of War goodness.

Old fasion pen and paper

Spready all the way

How can you not!

I use columns for base cost, extras and total cost

Lays out with HQ, Elite, Troops, Fast and Hvy beautifully

Generally pen and paper. Unless I'm feeling really special I use notepad on any comp I can use at the time.

There's just something more wholesome about using the mighty pen to write a mighty army list.

I have a spreadsheet of every model I have completed which I use to help build armies, but the actual writing of them, I just use Wordpad for.

On the flayed skin of my vanquished opponents using a k bar as a quill and the blood of spacemarines for ink.

And sometimes wordpad.

Battle scribe

Microsoft Excel. So, spreadsheet I suppose.

I remember it in my head.

I normally read forums to see what works on the table top,
keep in mind key details like: give my guys transports! And then get a pen and paper out!

I mostly use Gear Garage these days, but I'm weird.

I use the German tool Online Codex.

Pen & Paper. I'm surprised there's no "Netlist" as an option, because I know plenty who do

The Lone wolf demo, just printscreen your lists :3

Word processor. Easier for me to edit, import, export, and then print off so it looks all neat and tidy

mostly i just sift through the codex looking for points and imagining different builds. Games for me are usually 2500-5000 points, so I leave up to 300 to 1000 points free for upgrades. It isn't that hard that it warrants an army builder program to be honest. Heck, at the most, pen and paper is all you really need.


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Howard A Treesong wrote:I remember it in my head.

Spoiler:

Not really, I use a pen and paper.

It's actually not as tough as you think. (or anyone else would think for that matter)

pen and paper

I use gool old MS excel, the sum function comes in very handy!

As an engineering student, i am always using Excel, found it the easiest way to build and modify list.

Gotta love the calculator!

A spreadsheet. I keep a template which I use for handy list building and calculations.

Pen and paper and always fluff based!

Pen and Paper with a nearby calculator since I fail at math.
Then I'll take the list to the army list thing here, get opinions, and rewrite to help in competitiveness, while keeping true to my own flavor wheter good or bad.

Pen and paper usually...but yesterday I had to write it in crayon as I couldn't find any pens

I use Cmdctr.net (Best one)

I start on Paper with a Pencil usually, for quick scribbles and pointing up, with my trusty calculator by my side, then I'll move onto a Pen to refine things.

Then usually I pump it into Army Builder to get a nice cheat sheet with all my stats and points and that and they make good handouts for my opponent.

Pen/Paper or word

normally word, so I can add a fancy table for the stats and rules for each choice i take, means i'm not faffing about with the codex during the battle, though i always have the codex handy, just in case

Printed off army roster sheets from gw site.

keeps everything nice and organised.

I use my excel spreadsheet.

Typed on Microsoft word.

i write down a new list almost time i play... a lot of wasted time but, I am now able recite my entire codex.

(i only really play friendly games so my pals don't care)

NOT iBodGeR.
I don't have an iProDuCt to run it on (and a distinct loathing for Apple products in general).

Depends on the game and whether or not I have my computer available (and a printer).

Army Builder
Devilteam Army Infinity
Pen and paper and calculator.
Spreadsheet (xls)

Pen and paper

Pen and paper, but that's just so that my opponent can read it if that's the game. I usually forget it and have to spend a minute writing it out again before the battle anyway. Luckilly, they're friendly.

Battle Scribe FTW!

Good ol' fashion pen 'n paper

ive built my army over and over enough times to have all the gear memorized for my ork army.

Pen & Paper FTW!

Pen and paper is easier because you can do it anywhere when you have an idea.

Forward Commander. I was worried about getting a cease and desist letter from an unnamable company

Codex in hand and notepad open, start setting up pre-set builds that I like (eg. a vet squad with carapace and 3 plasma guns right as the top so I can cut/paste without calculating the point cost several times or memorizing anything). Frequently I will break up my army into "sections" that don't necessarily fight together, but simply happen to be the same number of units. Eg. If I have 6 vet squads and 3 tanks I will make 3 sections of 2 vet squads in a tank so I can just cut/paste the cost to more quickly calculate it. It takes me like 5 minutes to get a basic list started so I can fine tune it. I find it faster than hopping around an excel document adding and deleting entries until I get everything right.

Pen and paper for home games. Army Builder for the FLGS.

I have my servitor scribe transcribe it for me...

Ok, pen and paper actually.

Notepad or Pen and Paper.

Pen and paper never gets old.. especially for writing notes.

I use Notepad/a premade template for most things and easyarmy.com for FoW lists.

I use good 'ol pen and paper

Word Processor, I usually have a rough idea in my head of the army list i'm going to build and using Word Processor just allows me to refine that and display it in a manner I can reference too.

I use MS Office Excel in conjunction with codex. meow

I use pen and papaer for prepared lists but if I need to make one in a flash I use my phone's memo app.

Old school pen and paper. The best method as you can think as you write. When typing you some what go into zone out mode.

In Soviet Russia, army list build you.

Seriously depends if I have time or not. Time I use my computer (generally OpenOffice). If at my LFGS, pen and paper.

I love the app quartermaster, you have to put in the information but it is great and saves tons of time.

I find it easier to use pencils and paper cause I can eek out a good 1500-3000 point army within 15 min.

Most of the time Battlescribe, great program for list building.
Pen and paper comes as great second option for me.

I always start on paper unless its Mordheim, in which cause i use the actual Mordheim sheets.
For things like tournaments or a list that I use a lot I make it look fancier on Microsoft Word using a Table.

Battlescribe!

army creator mobile + ibodger.

Pen and paper to the max.

BattleScribe for me. Easy to use and counts up points automatically telling you when you exceed your points limit. Very nice indeed.

'Pen and Paper'... The good, old reliable way!

pen and paper is good for disposable army lists that you experiment with. For something I plan on using longer, I use a computer, so I can make variations on it.

A simple notebook - with abbreviations and point cost - is all it takes.

pen and paper

Battlescribe on my phone. Brilliant.

Get stuff and think about it later

Always used to use pen/paper but last year I finally got a computer so it's excel all the way. so much easier for adding up lists and doing the math.

A nice site called Forward Kommander, it's really easy to use. However it only does PP games

http://www.forwardkommander.com/

Microsoft Excel, a spreadsheet program.

I have a kind of template set up, a little typing and copy/pasting and you can change your list dead easy. It sometimes takes a bit of back-and-forth through the books, but that's not an issue for me.

The best part about this is that points can all be done automatically, and you're less likely to miss points than you would be if doing all the calculations manually...

I've never really bothered with list builder programs...

Battlescribe with the Codex besides to make sure the point cost total is correct for each unit.

Battlescribe

I use the battlescribe mobile iphone app

Highly recommend army Builder. It saves you a lot of time, and you can compare various armies/units per point really fast. It is also good for multiple game systems.

quatermaster for iphone.

I would use Army builder but I don't feel right paying for my laziness lol so I have been using "+1 Table Top Helper" isn't the greatest but its free and need to do a bit more work pounding out an army list. But for a first draft army list before I start an army is always pencil and paper

I personally love armybuilder, and understand why updates have to come slow (they slow things down so they get less interference from GW, plus the support is fan made so your not buying those updates...hence why i havent reupped my liscense in 4 years.)

AB allows me to stare at a list as I build to fine tune it how I like or add other units and see how well they work together in my head easier then Pnp or using a spreadsheet.

HQ-Builder or Battlescribe

Been using computers since I was a kid, and school instilled a serious dislike for writing. So Lone Wolf.

I build it in my head then transcribe it to paper.

Battlescribe

 NoQuestionzAsked wrote:
I use the battlescribe mobile iphone app

that^^

Just on Notes on my iPad. Before I started getting ebooks I used pen and paper but now it's easier just to have everything in the one spot.
(Plus copy/paste to dakkadakka )

Pen and paper. When making a new army list, I'll likely look at previous ones to see how much different units are worth and toss them in if they fit the points amount.

Quartermaster

Microsoft word. And pen and paper.

I use an app called battle scribe, mostly because it includes the point costs, war gear options, and profiles, for every army

I use Battle Scribe on my smartphone to keep track of my armies while im on the go.

You dug deep to resurrect this one....

Army Builder if at home, and Battlescribe (we'll see how the new version handles) when at the table.

Battlescribe all the way for me!

Either pen and paper

Or

http://cmdctr.net

Battle scribe homie

Pen and paper.