Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Salting away. I don't really care, as long as DE gets out by the end of the year.

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Wonder what the cause for switch would have been. Was the "meetup" a tournament and everyone brought Leafblower? Then they said, "Oooookay, we gotta do something about these Mystics."

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011.

What, DE "delayed" again?


*This* is why some of us require something a little more substantial on the DE front.

It's still a fuzzy picture over there.

I'm still betting DE next after WFB.

It makes sense from a marketing standpoint. This summer they will be pushing Fantasy pretty heavy, but they don't want to completely abandon 40k.

A Grey Knights codex won't need a whole lot of boxes or sprues. One Grey Knight box, one arbites/stormtrooper box, an upgrade sprue for Deathwatch (if they are even in there), and maybe a box of terminators, and you're done.

That would keep the 40K folks happy without stepping on fantasy sales at all. Then by Christmas, when the initial Fantasy fuss has died down, they can release the entirely new line of Dark Eldar. The size of the line is probably the reason they are delaying it till Christmas, so it's not competing with their Fantasy promotion.

puma713 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Wonder what the cause for switch would have been. Was the "meetup" a tournament and everyone brought Leafblower? Then they said, "Oooookay, we gotta do something about these Mystics."

More like "Cash is getting low - we need to sell a pile of big dollar Storm Raven Transports!!"

And they definitely would (will?).

puma713 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Wonder what the cause for switch would have been. Was the "meetup" a tournament and everyone brought Leafblower? Then they said, "Oooookay, we gotta do something about these Mystics."

Lulz, good stuff.

Everyone brought mech IG w/ mystic support....except for the marketing exec who brought all Khorne Daemons. 4 hours later, Inquisition moved up the release ladder.

Mystics dont seem horribly effective with the current metagame imo.. If most people play mech then very few are deep striking.. if they ARE deep striking then you have officer of the fleet who doesnt cost 2 Kps

I still have a faint hope that you'll all be surprised by the new Tau codex.

JohnHwangDD wrote:*This* is why some of us require something a little more substantial on the DE front.

I'd kill for something as insubstantial as a detailed description of new models that ends up being confirmed by Harry, but I am a man of high tastes.

Dark Eldar 2010: Making me REALLY think about starting a serious xenos army...

Before forge world revamped their site, most of the tau figures had a note that they were made using the "new codex rules" and that some of what they are going to do will not make sense until its published. anyone else notice that before the forge world revamp?

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

This bears the stink of 'obscure rumor from an unreliable source'. If GW wanted to publicize such an announcement, don't you think they'd... you know... Publicize it? I mean this sounds like the kinda thing BOLS would immediately slap on their front page if it had really happened, and Yakface would be floating around saying "Yes, it has been confirmed."

To my knowledge, GW likes to unveil things at big events and GDs and such... Not whisper about a big new release to some random kids and send them off to start threads about it in the 'News and Rumors' of a couple forums... "Yeah! That'll get the fans fired up!"

If GK do come out first, I will regard this rumor as having been a lucky guess. Along with any predictions about what we're getting next until we have the word from GW itself.

Kirasu wrote:Mystics dont seem horribly effective with the current metagame imo.. If most people play mech then very few are deep striking.. if they ARE deep striking then you have officer of the fleet who doesnt cost 2 Kps

The reason for taking the Inquisitor is far more the psychic hood than the mystics, and a great way to get cheap plasma-totting veterans. Mystics are just icing; deep striking dreads or termicide squads are not uncommon, and introducing them to a vendetta or executioner before they melt your expensive artillery is worth a mere 12 points.

While they're not my cup of tea. I hope the Necrons and Darkie Eldah get a new 'Dex. They need it.

I think they call a mulligan on the nids codex and re release the 4th ed one.

Archonate wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

This bears the stink of 'obscure rumor from an unreliable source'. If GW wanted to publicize such an announcement, don't you think they'd... you know... Publicize it? I mean this sounds like the kinda thing BOLS would immediately slap on their front page if it had really happened, and Yakface would be floating around saying "Yes, it has been confirmed."

To my knowledge, GW likes to unveil things at big events and GDs and such... Not whisper about a big new release to some random kids and send them off to start threads about it in the 'News and Rumors' of a couple forums... "Yeah! That'll get the fans fired up!"

If GK do come out first, I will regard this rumor as having been a lucky guess. Along with any predictions about what we're getting next until we have the word from GW itself.

Yeah, seriously. How many rumors end up being wishlisting in the form of "Redshirt Bob totally told me that separate Tomb Worlds are getting their own codices"?

Ostrakon wrote:
Yeah, seriously. How many rumors end up being wishlisting in the form of "Redshirt Bob totally told me that separate Tomb Worlds are getting their own codices"?

Hey, I'm just passing on my third hand information here!

Brother SRM wrote:

Ostrakon wrote:
Yeah, seriously. How many rumors end up being wishlisting in the form of "Redshirt Bob totally told me that separate Tomb Worlds are getting their own codices"?

Hey, I'm just passing on my third hand information here!

Technically, since it's probably made up it's really secondhand...

puma713 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Wonder what the cause for switch would have been. Was the "meetup" a tournament and everyone brought Leafblower? Then they said, "Oooookay, we gotta do something about these Mystics."

I have *never* had mystics do squat for me, and I don't take them any more. Mystics are not even close to the reason why Leafblower destroys.

Quientin wrote:Before forge world revamped their site, most of the tau figures had a note that they were made using the "new codex rules" and that some of what they are going to do will not make sense until its published. anyone else notice that before the forge world revamp?

unfortunately, that info is old. the taros campaign book was released BEFORE the tau empire codex and included some of the crisis suit options that weren't in the original tau codex. since FW knew what was coming out, they incorporated it instead of publishing a $75 book with units that are outdated in a few months.

Klueless wrote:I'm not sure if this is old news or not. I have just looked through the most recent posts & haven't seen anything about it.....

I have it on good authority that Dark Eldar are the next army to have a new Codex. This is apparently to be released in conjunction with some fantasy rules/models update.
This will be in a few months & apparently they are being 'test' played atm.

After that Black Templars are to be re-done. This will happen towards the end of 2010. (Another Marine Army! - I guess they need it though)

The next big thing is to be Necrons towards the start of next year.

I hope that this brings excitement to many & again, is not old news.

No dark angels update this year? ;_;

While DA's may not have the greatest codex, keep in mind they are only 3 years old, expecting an update before mid/late 2011 or 2012 is unrealistic. Like it or not they *are* one of the newer armies, even if they aren't really all that great. There are many armies ahead of them in line and in more dire need of an update.

apwill4765 wrote:

puma713 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Wonder what the cause for switch would have been. Was the "meetup" a tournament and everyone brought Leafblower? Then they said, "Oooookay, we gotta do something about these Mystics."

I have *never* had mystics do squat for me, and I don't take them any more. Mystics are not even close to the reason why Leafblower destroys.

Yes, I understand. Read Terminus' post above. Mystics are not about "destroying", they're about defense. Dropping in Terminators/Long Fangs Packs w/Logan/Dreadnoughts or anything else that can blow a hole in your tightly packed Leafblower defense can wreak havoc on a leafblower set up, especially if it's the manticore, the executioner, valks or vendettas. You name it. All Mystics do are keep podders/deep strikers at bay. And if they are unlucky enough to get within 4D6" of your Mystics, your Executioner gets 5 nice little Str 7 Ap 2 blasts at them. And that's for every squad podding in.

However. . .my post was a joke anyway.

Brother SRM wrote:Apparently there was a GW meetup in Vegas this past weekend and Inquisition was pushed to the front of the 40k lineup, with Dark Eldar pushed into 2011. Read this on Warseer and another forum. Take as much salt as you want.

Actually I posted this as a full quote two days ago in the current DE and GK threads ( http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/291960.page ), must have missed this three week old thread

Reactions on that post on Warseer showed that no other source from Las Vegas mentioned these informations. And the reliable source Daemon Prince Adramalech didn't believe anything except that GK are next and Sisters have a separate Codex.

Wow, didn't think of that. If there was this big convention; odd no one at convention is mentioning anything other thanthis guy who herd somehing from a GW shirt.

Counterpoint: GW as of late has become adept at keeping information about upcoming releases under lock-and-key, so perhaps we're lucky to have gotten even that much?

Interesting if true, either way.

If there was this big convention; odd no one at convention is mentioning anything

It was a conference for retail management and it was in Las Vegas. GW North America used to have them annually, but recently it was decided that these conferences would be quarterly. I've talked to many employees who have attended the Vegas conferences over the past few years and the emphasis at those meetings is on running the business, not new product. Obviously when new product is mentioned or discussed with the people in attendance, being that they are shop mangers they are usually smart enough not to discuss anything they are not supposed to discuss afterward with customers.

The past year or two GW has also gotten a lot tighter about how far ahead they let any of their retail staff know much about upcoming releases in order to clamp down on leaks.

Decision-making in Vegas.... Sounds like an awesome plan... So many great decisions are made in Vegas... But what happened to "what goes on in Vegas, stays in Vegas"?

Beast wrote:But what happened to "what goes on in Vegas, stays in Vegas"?

Well the Dark Eldar aren't out yet, are they?

maybe the dark eldar decided to stay in vegas... it does sound like their sort of town. those puritanical grey knights apparently decided to high-tail it out of sin city.

I hope Dark Eldar are out soon, just to shut Johnny up.

warboss wrote:maybe the dark eldar decided to stay in vegas... it does sound like their sort of town. those puritanical grey knights apparently decided to high-tail it out of sin city.

The Grey Knights packed up and went northeast, to Utah.

Terminus wrote:It makes sense from a marketing standpoint. This summer they will be pushing Fantasy pretty heavy, but they don't want to completely abandon 40k.

A Grey Knights codex won't need a whole lot of boxes or sprues. One Grey Knight box, one arbites/stormtrooper box, an upgrade sprue for Deathwatch (if they are even in there), and maybe a box of terminators, and you're done.

That would keep the 40K folks happy without stepping on fantasy sales at all. Then by Christmas, when the initial Fantasy fuss has died down, they can release the entirely new line of Dark Eldar. The size of the line is probably the reason they are delaying it till Christmas, so it's not competing with their Fantasy promotion.

This makes sense to me. I would prefer DE sooner, rather than later, so that I could collect, model, paint, and get some games in before next year's pre-'Ard Boyz tournament run, but whatever. Personally, I don't know many folks who are that interested in GK, but we'll see if folks jump to them when the codex gets released. Frankly, this tight-lipped policy by GW creates more harm than good, especially since they are pulling Inquisition and DE products off the shelves anyway, so there are really no sales to lose.

BolS said something about Dark Eldar being pushed back to Q1 2011.
I'm looking forward to the Stormraven, but that would still suck a lot. Spikey Elves really need it as well.

BolS makes 95% of their gak up or take it out of context from other sites.

Money is still on DE after WHFB but before GK's and Inquis.

Well, I made my decision. I had 150+ bucks from my birthday since March and have been holding onto it just in case DE were released soon.

Bought my new Verizon Droid this week w/ that money...GW can go #$%@ themselves...

Rymafyr wrote:Well, I made my decision. I had 150+ bucks from my birthday since March and have been holding onto it just in case DE were released soon.

Bought my new Verizon Droid this week w/ that money...GW can go #$%@ themselves...

Raging against the machine, man

Rymafyr wrote:Well, I made my decision. I had 150+ bucks from my birthday since March and have been holding onto it just in case DE were released soon.

Bought my new Verizon Droid this week w/ that money...GW can go #$%@ themselves...

I'm trying not to resign hope until we have official word...
But at the same time, I know GW well enough to know that, as a DE player, I should brace myself for disappointment once again as, despite all the recent hype being the perfect time to announce DE, GW releases a 4th consecutive imperial army.

If that ends up being the case, GW can indeed go #$%@ themselves...

On the bright side.. the droid is a very useful device!

Kirasu wrote:On the bright side.. the droid is a very useful device!

Yep, loving it Honestly, it doesn't matter if DE were released in August like everyone has been saying...I wouldn't have time to paint anything new anyways.

As if time has ever stopped a good Warham from buying more toys!

Brother SRM wrote:As if time has ever stopped a good Warham from buying more toys!

I hate you.



For being right...

I was talking to a GW Store manager and "apparently" he was not aware of the Grey Knight codex being removed from the GW website. He also stated that he had received an email regarding the release of Dark Eldar and Necrons. He told me that DE were due in 3 months.

I took this with a huge gigantic chunk of salt.

I believe DE Rumor more than I do the GK rumor or Inquisition rumor. 3 months does put it at August. A tight schedule with WHFB for sure but not impossible.