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Post by: TherVadam
Just wanna get this out quickly: Look how Lord Loss pressure votes ginger_nid_dude. There's not really any pressure though, because these pressure votes aren't really getting anyone worried.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Just want tosay that scum hunting, hunting for scum is the best way to help the the town.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Well if the guy who is being pressured doesn't respond. Usualy more votes are added and it becomes real pressure.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Or it becomes a unstoppable BADwagon that the person wakes up to.
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Post by: halonachos
I just want everyone to know why I'm getting so quiet is a real life issue. My brother is graduating and we have family coming down from rhode island. Not only that, but on the 15th, 17th, 21st, and 23rd I will be taking sailing classes at my university.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Ah these numbers are taking a toll, I'm still not sure of whom I will vote, too many newbies I wish not to wrongfully slay.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Lord-Loss wrote:Can Drk_Oblit and IG summorise why they feel each other are suspicous.
Lanny is self contradictionary. One moment, he's making strong comments, the next, he's completely given up on the what he was talking about completely.
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Post by: BishopGore
By the twelve Lords of Cobol, you've had a busy weekend. Well, Halo obviously didn't have a busy weekend, but you catch my drift
Lord-Loss wrote:I'm always defending people equally and wanting some quote evidence, or something before even thinking about a lynch.
As Halo has already said, this is not true. I've seen you as innocent and scum and generally you're quick to anger and attack others. You defend to confuse people, not because you're impartial. So far you're playing as you did in the DE game, getting very angry at people. I honestly believe that you may be evil again from past experience.
Halo wrote:Oh and I guess bishop has been busy lately, or he got tired and decided to let Drk to take over his job of probing.
As I said on Friday, I was out all weekend. Drove back from London quite late and could not be bothered with internets when I got home.
Ok, so busy weekend, four more pages of speculation, backstabbing and pleas from people to believe in them. And Halos has been trying to grill people. Not totally sure I see the point in some of his questions, but he's keeping things moving. Though I worry he is dominating the stage too much, as Fifty has said, there's so much background noise it's becoming difficult to hear anything else. I read a page and all I have at the end of it is static in my head. Though that could be the TV aerial I have shoved into my cranial socket.
To date my major suspicion is Lord-Loss, which gives me a deja-vu all over again. I'm also going to be watching Halo, as he seems a little too active and Syphonious who has a bit of smugness about his posting. Maybe also Fifty, who is sensible and points out that right now there's not much to say, but that doesn't mean he can't be creating conversation himself.
So I can't remember if I already did this, if I did then it's an affirmation, if not it's a condemnation:
Vote: Lord-Loss
You're the only person I ever successfully sniffed out and you're coming out smelling just like you did back then.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Bishop..... does that make me your next suspect? I wanna be voted on by you.... I've been a bad boy.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Bishop, I havn't got angry at all. I'll pull out my "!!!" and "=>E" faces when i'm angry  Not that it's serious angry, just internet angry!
I've been nothing like the DE game, why? Cause I havn't tried establishing myself as the head of the town and I feel alot less involved in this game. Like Fifty, I'm having a hard time getting really "into it" but i'm trying my best.
I don't really now who I want to lynch. At first I was sure of Halo but I dunno know. He hasn't seemed to change his playstyle but I find him less suspicous, maybe he's easing himself into the game, probally..
No one else really screams bsccume at me. Not sure whats up with the IG and Drk_Oblit stuff. I don't find any of them suspicous really. Scott has tweaked my suspicous metre with thhat stuff about finding Inqusitior suspicous cause of the joke. But no one seems supicous enough to lynch. The problem is that we really need to lynch someone, otherwise we have the exact same problem on Day 2 but with night kill to give us some extra discussion material. I really don't know what to do now apart from ask questions get everything out in the open about who everyone gfinds suspicous and salvage whats left of this day phase.
Your evidence against me is all down to my playstyle, lets be honest thats all you got. It not enough for a vote in my opinion, or a lynch. I havn't done anything suspicous, I'm doing my best to scum hunt but as stated above, I believe we're in a pickle.
SCOT@ Who do you find suspicous?
HALO@ Can you explain why you find Me, Bishop, and whoever else you said you find suspicous and summorise it?
Inqusitior@ Same as above.
IG@Same as above but with DRK_OBLIT.
NID@You going to chip in with your opinion? I think I'll keep the pressure vote on into then.
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Post by: VikingScott
@Lord-Loss.
Everyone.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
I don't find either of you suspicous, I find Drk_O, and halo suspicious.
Drk_O because it seems like he is trying to "rule the town".
halo because he thinks I am suspicious...
I am considering on voting to lynch halo, but doing so would just result in myself being a suspect. If I ever do, it is not because he is on to me, just that he is asking questions in general!
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Well in the last game the person that "controlled" the town was the bad guy.
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Post by: VikingScott
Ok to elabourate on my previous post. (was about to edit but remembered the rules)
I suspect everyone. I have a small suspicion of who i think is town.
Inquisitor_Syphonious seems suspicious to me. Not sure why.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
BrotherStynier wrote:Well in the last game the person that "controlled" the town was the bad guy.
Yeah, someone said that, 'tis why I offer him as a baddie.
VikingScott wrote:Ok to elabourate on my previous post. (was about to edit but remembered the rules)
I suspect everyone. I have a small suspicion of who i think is town.
Inquisitor_Syphonious seems suspicious to me. Not sure why.
I seem suspicious because I made a joke?
If halonachos is nightkilled, i'll lynch you faster than you can say "No, don't!!!"
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:BrotherStynier wrote:Well in the last game the person that "controlled" the town was the bad guy.
Yeah, someone said that, 'tis why I offer him as a baddie.
Oh well so much is going on its hard to follow.
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Post by: VikingScott
Not just because of that but well I don't know just a vibe which is probably wrong.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
VikingScott wrote:Not just because of that but well I don't know just a vibe which is probably wrong.
I have a vibe that BrotherStynier is a heretic!
Oh wait, no I don't, i'm just making an excuse so I don't get caught.
Edit- As of this moment, BrotherStynier has exactly 1,000 posts more than me. (Extra heretical...)
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Post by: VikingScott
So you think I'm a heretic?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
No, you're just awfully suspicious of me... Why is that?
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Syphonious, I disagree with you about dark o being scum. He is very random but not particularly scummy. I strongly suggest that anyone with an identify ability uses it against dark O asap as that is the only way we will really know what he is. But don't quote the PM. That would be silly
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Identify ability?
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Post by: VikingScott
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:No, you're just awfully suspicious of me... Why is that?
Because I'm a paranoid ba  rd who distrusts pretty much everyone he knows
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Post by: VikingScott
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Identify ability?
An actual Inquisitor generally has the power to check on one person to tell if thier town/cultist/whatever
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Post by: VikingScott
I used actual to stop confusion between the Inquisitor role and your name
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
I think they should identfiy ginger_nid_dude...
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Post by: TherVadam
I have to say, by this point, the only few people I suspect are:
1. Drk_O
2. GND
3. Syphonius
I do not like the connection between Drk_O, although the more I word it, the less it seems rational. It's as if they're mirroring each other, with Drk_O trying to fulfill the main lead, and GND trying to hide in the background. If you look at GND's participation in the game, all he did was repeat something I said with no added information, and then tell people to identify Drk_O, but at this point he has so little credibility that it would be a good move to do that simply so that it doesn't happen. I don't know what GND is, but I don't trust him.
Inquisitor: Though I seriously enjoy your company, something about what you're saying this round just gives me a bad vibe. I'd prefer not doing anything to you at the moment, but I find it better to simply get everything out.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
TherVadam wrote:I have to say, by this point, the only few people I suspect are:
1. Drk_O
2. GND
3. Syphonius
I do not like the connection between Drk_O, although the more I word it, the less it seems rational. It's as if they're mirroring each other, with Drk_O trying to fulfill the main lead, and GND trying to hide in the background. If you look at GND's participation in the game, all he did was repeat something I said with no added information, and then tell people to identify Drk_O, but at this point he has so little credibility that it would be a good move to do that simply so that it doesn't happen. I don't know what GND is, but I don't trust him.
Inquisitor: Though I seriously enjoy your company, something about what you're saying this round just gives me a bad vibe. I'd prefer not doing anything to you at the moment, but I find it better to simply get everything out.
You and your gung-ho, do I really give off that much of a bad vibe?
What did I say that gave off bad juju?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Drk_O because it seems like he is trying to "rule the town".
I guess I kinda am. I'm trying to move away from being the crazy guy for awhile, and it won't happen unless I try to focus the town in a specific direction.
TherVadam wrote: It's as if they're opposites of each other, with Drk_O trying to fulfill the main lead, and GND trying to hide in the background.
Fixed. If we were mirroring each other, we'd both be doing the same thing.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Another replacement word that works in there is 'complimenting'. It fits his accusations better.
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Post by: IGLannister
I don't suspect dark_o. He voted for me, so I rage-voted for him. I got a helluva lot of pressure for first voting no lynch, then holding my vote. Dark_o kept pushing, so I voted for him.
Also, i am tired of him casting doubt on anyone he can find. Yes, I know you aren't casting doubt on EVERYONE, dark_o, but quite a few. Sowing dissension doesn't seem to me to be the best route to go.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Lanny, rage voting like you did isn't a good idea. It just gives off an immature vibe and, generally, it's childish...
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Post by: IGLannister
Lolz dark I meant rage vote as in "kneejerk reaction to unfounded suspicions", not "OMGWTF HE VOTED FOR ME ARRRGHH!!" *throws iPhone into tv*
so relax man. What you know about my maturity lvl could maybe fill up the inside of a cheerio. So let's not start throwing around statements that could be construed as inflammatory, aight?
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Post by: halonachos
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:
If halonachos is nightkilled, i'll lynch you faster than you can say "No, don't!!!" 
I feel kind of safe about the night phase. Seeing as though the first pages were filled with veteran players giving tips and tricks concerning voting, most people are going to follow them. I believe it was either bishop, LL, or stynier who said that a heretic would night kill some player who has not been too involved in the discussion in order to avoid suspicion. So according to that logic; Drk, LL, Bishop, IG, GND, Stynier, Syphonius, Scott, Ferrett, Thervadam, and I are all safe from a first round night kill. IF the heretics decide to follow that template, we don't know how the heretics will act. So, by risking a first round lynch you can avoid a first round night kill, that's another reason why I've been saying so much. I have so many grudges against me that if I am night killed, someone is going to get lynched for it.
Sorry if I seemed to be trying to take over the town, I really wasn't. I just got bored and wanted to shake the hornet's nest so to speak.
@ LL, my suspicion mainly comes from lies told on your part and your fascination in trying to get me lynched using the same reason over and over again even though I have provided with an ample rebuttal, IMHO. Like I said, I think your a heretic trying to find a lovely scape goat with a target on his back.
My suspicion towards stynier and bishop is their somewhat similar thinking and play style, it just seems to be teamwork. That is just a hunch though, but I am working on a case using earlier posts, especially the first "tips and tricks" posts as there may be some hidden messages I am missing.
Vikingscott seemed to start out as very pointed, but ended up going vague in his reasons for suspecting someone.
Ferrett hasn't been posting too much and not really contributing anything to town, similar to syphonius. My suspicion of syphonius was the majority of page 12 I believe so you can check that.
As to Drk, he's been running the show and maybe is trying to work out some master scheme that I am not catching onto.
Also, GND is trying to advocate the inquisitor to check the alignment of Drk. This means that GND is potentially trying to lead suspicion away from himself and trying to keep the eyes of the inquisition off of him during the night, darn peeping toms.
IG hasn't been persuading me that his "no lynch" vote was done for the greater good.
The no talkers havent been talking, but they're going to regret it soon in the form of a modkill or night kill.
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Post by: halonachos
IGLannister wrote:Lolz dark I meant rage vote as in "kneejerk reaction to unfounded suspicions", not "OMGWTF HE VOTED FOR ME ARRRGHH!!" *throws iPhone into tv*
so relax man. What you know about my maturity lvl could maybe fill up the inside of a cheerio. So let's not start throwing around statements that could be construed as inflammatory, aight?
Hey Webster, I think you found your definition for irony over here!
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
IGLannister wrote:Lolz dark I meant rage vote as in "kneejerk reaction to unfounded suspicions", not "OMGWTF HE VOTED FOR ME ARRRGHH!!" *throws iPhone into tv*
so relax man. What you know about my maturity lvl could maybe fill up the inside of a cheerio. So let's not start throwing around statements that could be construed as inflammatory, aight?
Dood, you're totally the guy who should chill! I was totally talking you through what you did. I said it made you totally seem that way. I didn't say anything about you specifically, and I'm pretty sure you're a very nice person and such.
Both examples you gave are pretty much the same, just with a different tone. Like drinking tea with your pinky sticking out.
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Post by: IGLannister
Lolz, then with all respect I apologize. I'm a fiery argumentative person, and I let my love of argument override my senses. My bizzle homeslice.
For the record, I'm a pinky-in tea drinker.
Tea, Earl grey, hot son.
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Post by: SagesStone
Current votes the_ferrett -0 ginger_nid_dude -2 VikingScott -0 Scarper -0 Lord-Loss -1 Drk_0blitr8r -1 Inquisitor_Syphonious -1 Paul Atreides -0 BishopGore -0 Arheiner -0 Karon -1 Fifty -1 Halonachos -0 Steempunk -0 BrotherStynier -0 IGLannister -3 TherVadam -0 No Lynch -0 With 17 alive 9 are required to lynch. Yet if this day phase were to run out of time the target with the most votes would go. That would be Lan at the moment. It's Tuesday now leaving 6 days including today. Vote log Sorted like this voter (target) Drk_0 (Ferret) Halo (Drk_0) Scott (Halo) Nid (Scott) 50 (Nid) Halo (Unvote Drk_0) LL (50) Syph (Drk_0) Halo (Scott) Lan (Scott) Nid (unvote Scott) Lan (unvote Scott) Lan (No Lynch) Scott (Unvote Halo) Bishop (Ferret) Bishop (unvote Ferret) Scarper (Bishop) Halo (unvote Scott) Halo (No Lynch) Drk_0 (unvote Ferret) Drk_0 (Bishop) Arhiener (Syph) Paul (No Lynch) Stynier (Karon) Scarp (Unvote Bishop) Halo (Unvote No Lynch) Halo (Stynier) Bishop (Halo) Halo (Unvote Stynier) Bishop's joke votes (not sure if he's still voting for halo, but I'm going to say he isn't until he does again ) Drk_0 (Unvote Bishop) TherVadem (Lan) Nid (Lan) Lan (Unvote No Lynch) NEW Paul (Unvote No Lynch) Scott (Stynier) Scott (Unvote Stynier) Halo (Lan) LL (Nid) Bishop (LL) Drk_O (Lan) I'm giving those few who have yet to show up the rest of the day phase, after that they will be removed if they still haven't joined.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
I could have sworn I voted for Lanny
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Post by: SagesStone
I didn't see it
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Unvote: BishopGore I'm going to try something alittle different. Paul and Lan, you're both voting for no lynch. I'm going to vote for one of you. So, explain why I shouldn't vote for you, and explain why you continue to vote no lynch.
This was a trap. Not entirely on just Lanny and Paul, but for everyone(although manly Lanny and Paul anyway). I didn't pick Lanny and Paul because they were voting "No Lynch" I picked them because I'm relatively new to traps, and wanted to keep my sample size small, and they have many things in common. One of those is that they're both new, so I figured I could catch others in the trap as well. Also, I'm concerned that if I had too many people that the trap would largely go unnoticed. The entire purpose of this trap was to to try and gauge their reactions, how they think, how much faith they have in their decisions and to try and see if anyone will rally against/with me on this. Results? Immediately, Paul explained that he had no/little faith in his reasons for voting. TherVadam and gnd arguibly jumped into voting for lanny to encourage him to explain why Lanny responded very well, almost. He spelt my name wrong, BAD! Also, I probibly don't think this needs saying now, but I generally know what I'm doing. Ohh wait. Lanny didn't respond well! He went from IGLannister wrote:I am very deeply entrenched in my beliefs, thank you for noticing. As to my no lynch vote, I'm not one to randomly cast a vote just because it makes me look suspicious if I don't. I don't like my votes being wasted, especially if there's a possibility it might be the end of the road for an innocent.
to "I'm not using my vote to stop someone from dying!" Votes can be used to kill players, true. But you voted to not kill anyone. Now you're not. I hope I explained this well. At this stage, I introduced a countdown. I never had any intention of meeting it, I was applying the pressure a time limit creates. Paul unvotes, demonstrating the lack of faith he explained earlier. *sigh* So, what did I learn? They're both more similar than I thought. There maybe be a connection between TherVadam and dd, I mean gnd. I implemented the trap alittle too early. I'll Vote: Lanny because you let me down
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Post by: SagesStone
And that would be how I missed it, being in a block of text and all
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Post by: the_ferrett
Halo and Lan have moe mind changes than most I know.
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Post by: Paul Atreides
halonachos wrote:
@LL, my suspicion mainly comes from lies told on your part and your fascination in trying to get me lynched using the same reason over and over again even though I have provided with an ample rebuttal, IMHO. Like I said, I think your a heretic trying to find a lovely scape goat with a target on his back.
My suspicion towards stynier and bishop is their somewhat similar thinking and play style, it just seems to be teamwork. That is just a hunch though, but I am working on a case using earlier posts, especially the first "tips and tricks" posts as there may be some hidden messages I am missing.
Vikingscott seemed to start out as very pointed, but ended up going vague in his reasons for suspecting someone.
Ferrett hasn't been posting too much and not really contributing anything to town, similar to syphonius. My suspicion of syphonius was the majority of page 12 I believe so you can check that.
As to Drk, he's been running the show and maybe is trying to work out some master scheme that I am not catching onto.
Also, GND is trying to advocate the inquisitor to check the alignment of Drk. This means that GND is potentially trying to lead suspicion away from himself and trying to keep the eyes of the inquisition off of him during the night, darn peeping toms.
IG hasn't been persuading me that his "no lynch" vote was done for the greater good.
The no talkers havent been talking, but they're going to regret it soon in the form of a modkill or night kill.
Aww, a few pages back I was on your list of suspicious people, now I feel ignored.
I haven't been talking enough, and I am sorry. I'll do my best to change that in the future.
I want to have something beyond the most obvious observations to share with you, but I am simply guilty of being too stupid to join the dots.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
What lies?
I said that I try to defend people who havn't done anything suspicous (Well that's what I meant, I'll back and check after I finish this) You have bandwagoned, that's suspicous.
I havn't kept on at you. A perfect example of that would be the way you hounded scott at the begining of the game, talking with upmost certainty about how "he's defintely a heretic" and saying his claims of bandwagoning are just the bitter cries of a dying heretic. (You said that but I just made it more dramatic  )
My suspicous is kind of peaked backish, I mean, you seemed to be acting pro town but is this belief that i'm suspicous just a misunderstanding, or are you trying to get me cause you're a heretic? I'm not sure.
Ferret@ Now I think about it, you really havn't been scum hunting at all. You should stop the one word posts and tell us who you find suspicous and why maybez?
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Post by: VikingScott
Lord-Loss.
Your argument post above has been the final thing. I agree with you here.
Vote: Halonachos
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Post by: the_ferrett
Who - noone. Why? Out of cheese error, redo from start. Seriously there isn't enough points of logic to adequately state a person of guilt. Its literally still a toss of a dart onto a boad to see who draws blood at this point.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
the_ferrett wrote:Who - noone. Why? Out of cheese error, redo from start. Seriously there isn't enough points of logic to adequately state a person of guilt. Its literally still a toss of a dart onto a boad to see who draws blood at this point. I had a big speach thought up, but I decided that I had a better way to say it...
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Post by: Lord-Loss
So you're not going to scum hunt and just give it up as a lost cause?
I'm prepared to put a pressure vote on Ferrett to try and get him to scum hunt. But I wanna see if he'll just do it first.....
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
You and your "pressure votes"
Anyhoo, I think Drk_O is scum, and that is why I am voting against him, and contributing to the town.
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Post by: TherVadam
Hem, ok a few things.
1. Unvote: IGLannister and Vote: DRK_Oblitr8r, I did this a while back, but I guess you missed it not_u, no problem:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/240/298898.page#1660215
2. Yes, I did mean opposites... Right anyway, now that I check the votes: If I unvoted IG, then there are only two votes on him, and I want to check both DRK and GND, so I guess I will Unvote: Drk_Oblitr8r and Vote: Ginger_Nid_Dure , and hope that one of the inquisitors checks out Drk.
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Post by: TherVadam
Also, congrats Inquisitor on 1000 posts.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I'm not sure what you mean by "check" are you claiming to be an Inqusitior?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
TherVadam wrote:Also, congrats Inquisitor on 1000 posts.
Congrats to you on 100.
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Post by: TherVadam
Lord-Loss: Lol oops, meant I want someone to check
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Ok.
Tis Tos, no one congratulates me on my 2557th post
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Post by: IGLannister
No one congratulated me on 100...and I'll be honest, my panties are in a bunch.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Oh, guys. Am I meant to be just like you all and vote willy nilly? Cannot I just watch and create judgement calls when I see evidence or must we all do the exact same thing?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Join the masses or be labeled a heretic!
In all seriousness, if you had to pick one right now, who would you vote to lynch for?
Don't need to vote, just if I were to point the business end of a lasgun at you, and ask you, who would you vote for?
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Post by: the_ferrett
Lan due to the votes hopping. Either he and Nachoes are very indecisive or they'e playing silly buggers. Either way it raises my hackles. Heretic behaviour, maybe not. Offputting - yep!
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Post by: IGLannister
Lol that's it. Bandwagon it up fellas.
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Post by: the_ferrett
They asked me to 'vote'. Do you see any bold in my text?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
I have this to say:
DOG PILE ON LANNISTER!
In all seriousness:
he only stated that he was suspicious of you. Not really a bandwagon vote, trying to stick in with the crowd? Maybe.
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Post by: IGLannister
Crowd-surfing, bandwagoning. Same thing, minus the vote.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Meh, all the same I s'pose.
By the way, I just sent myself a PM... in case anyone wanted to know.
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Post by: IGLannister
Was the PM about how handsome and manly I am? If so, you should forward that to the rest of dakka.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:
Golly gee, that IGLannister fellow is so manly. I wish I could be more like him, he is my hero!
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Post by: IGLannister
Lolz. Well said.
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Post by: halonachos
halonachos wrote:How can you be bandwagoned by cultists? You're the cultist and I'm sure of it, I'm also sure that you're just trying to get revenge of your loss by saying that we "bandwagoned".
You call this "hounding" are you serious? This was the only reference I had to Scott and the "Bandwagoning Defense". Hardly hounding in my own opinion.
LL wrote:We need to cool it down. Inqusitior, Nachos and those other two guys whos named I've forgotten but can't check cause we're on a new page, can you please explain your actions?
I also wanna add that it's very scummy (scummy = bad heretic like, you get the drift) to vote for people due to "fluff" reasons etc. There's a time and a place for that, it's the RVS, but what happened to Scott went just way to far. I don't think it's good for people to be on multiple votes in the RVS, it can lead to bandwagons like we just saw.
LL wrote:What are your thoughts on the recent bandwagon which developed on Viking Scott the RVS and your thought about the people involved and how suspicous you feel they are?
LL wrote:If anything Halonachos, you have something to prove, after building that ridiclous straw man again Scot and Drk_Oblit, I'm not sure about you. It might just be new player mistakes, I'm keeping my eyes open.
LL wrote:I don't like the way you bandowaged on Scott, that come combinded with the weird logic of yours you used to 'work out' how Scott and Drk_Oblit are inocent/guilty makes me suspicous.
LL wrote:When you jump on them in the RVS while they have two other votes, it's bandwagoning. What seems to single you out was your constant posting of stuff like "Ofcourse you're a heretic, we ain't bandwagoning" I can find thwe quotes later.
I disliked the way you seem to find thisd non existent link betwen Drk_Oblit and Scott, I can't see it.
LL wrote:I' got to admit after that little "episode" I feel a tad more suspicous of Halonachos. He was the main driving force behind that bandwagon.
Even though I argued my side more than several times using logic and defending myself, you still kept using your reason to attack me.
You thought that I was the reason for the bandwagoning, and why? Because I called Scott a heretic because he was doing math? Then Scott writes off his vote for me as a joke because he put a smiley face next to it, and that is acceptable to you?
I again, was the third to vote for Scott and I lack a reason for you to call me the "ringleader". I wish you would explain why I was the ringleader while Syphonius egged us on.
@ferrett,
Indeciveness is the key to flexibility.
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Post by: halonachos
@LL, I'm not trying to get you. In fact I don't think I have ever voted for you, nor said that anyone else should vote for you. The only thing I said was that you seem suspicious to me.
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Post by: Arheiner
Very sorry about not being on, had no internet since friday night, and back. Since I have no idea whats happening, ive randomly generated a player to vote for, so here goes:
VOTE: TherVadem
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Post by: BishopGore
Ferrett wrote:Bishop..... does that make me your next suspect? I wanna be voted on by you.... I've been a bad boy. 
Flirting with me isn't going to help you out  I'm actually getting the vibe of the genestealer game from you, when you just frilled around, stayed quiet and eventually voted for yourself out of frustration. Of course I know you're a very clever chap and player and attributed your success in the DE game to never lying, so:
@Ferrett: Are you a Daemon or Cultist? Do you have any intention of night killing pro-town players? Will you be possessing others to further your evil agenda?
Lord-Loss wrote:Your evidence against me is all down to my playstyle, lets be honest thats all you got. It not enough for a vote in my opinion, or a lynch. I havn't done anything suspicous, I'm doing my best to scum hunt but as stated above, I believe we're in a pickle.
I'm sorry, what exactly do we do on Day 1? You harp on at people for votes during the Probing Vote Phase which most often are people letting off steam (as pointed out by Halo, you've gone on and on about him), you make assumptions based on past games and you read between the lines. When I read your posts I see epic stories between the lines. I am often wrong, but I've played beside you in 2 games and in one you screamed guilty, in the other you didn't. So I believe in your guilt.
However, you can't be alone, there's plenty more scum to hunt...
Arheiner wrote:Very sorry about not being on, had no internet since friday night, and back. Since I have no idea whats happening, ive randomly generated a player to vote for, so here goes:
I like it. Strong, authoritative. Lacking in any form of foresight. It's Arheiner play through and through  I kid, but bear in mind there are several players now getting growly about the continuation of Random Votes. However in TherVadam... well, you may have found a target. He's continuing to view Drk_O and GND as suspects, but that could just be my own blindness rather than him seeing things that don't exist.
Right now I'm watching LL primarily, Ferrett minorly (as he is far too smart for our own good), VikingScott for being a clumsy crazy so-and-so and Atreides because he's not getting nearly enough spotlight right now.
Not sure about IGLann... an odd one. Hrrrrm.
Only a few days left now.
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Post by: BishopGore
Is there any form of policy on quoting from other games? Because I think I can get hold of a copy of one of LLs posts from another game that's near enough word for word some of his posts here when faced with votes
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Post by: the_ferrett
Bishop: I'd rather keep some mystery between us. Spoil the mystery and the relationship gets boring. Oh and Bishop - do you have Vassal?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I think some of those quotes were from me trying to get other people to talk in the game. It was pretty early and that Bandwagon was the main thing going on earlier Seems I have been pretty hounding.  I don't know why I saw you as the ing Leader, you did seem the most agressive out of the bandwagoning people. I'm going to put thatn down to you all being new players for now.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Halo was only the suspicous person I could see. We don't have any really suspicous people which there are quote evidence for etc.
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Post by: TherVadam
Is it bad that I'm happy that people are finally suspicious of me?
To Arheiner: BishopGore is right, Random Votes are somewhat looked down upon, but if you genuinely have reason to suspect me, then I have no issue with your vote.
To BishopGore: What do you mean? It seems at first that you suspect me a little bit "You may have found a target", but then you attribute yourself not seeing what I pointed out to yourself.
In all honesty, I can only suspect, and I try somewhat to drive forward what I suspect, but it's weak enough that it's hard to wow the masses with. On the other hand, Drk_O seems to have stopped scumhunting, and stopped genuinely contributing since just a little bit after the posts. Then again, I have the naivety of a teen, and the ramblings of an old man
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Post by: VikingScott
BishopGore wrote:, VikingScott for being a clumsy crazy so-and-so
Only a few days left now.
I am both of these things, I'd like to thiink crazy moreso though.
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Post by: BishopGore
the_ferrett wrote:Bishop: I'd rather keep some mystery between us. Spoil the mystery and the relationship gets boring. Oh and Bishop - do you have Vassal?
I claim sidestepping of the question your honour. I request that the witness get a good scragging.
And no, I don't have Vassal. I think you've asked me before, I keep meaning to look into it, but life tends to get in the way. I'm fairly proud of myself for finding time to post on here at all!
Lord-Loss wrote:Halo was only the suspicous person I could see. We don't have any really suspicous people which there are quote evidence for etc
I'm sure you'll claim it's not pro-town of me, but I don't see quote evidence as very useful at this stage of the game.
TherVadam wrote:To BishopGore: What do you mean? It seems at first that you suspect me a little bit "You may have found a target", but then you attribute yourself not seeing what I pointed out to yourself.
I know that Arheiner can be perceptive at times, and I was hoping to get him a little more involved so we could hear more of his wisdom. Plus he's a total scatterbrain, if he's scum then the more he talks the more likely he is to say something daft that will help us spot him  With regards to my quote, I was encouraging Arheiner and saying that maybe he's seeing something which I am not. You're scum hunting and keeping the town informed, but I don't see this link between GND and Drk_O which you do. Scum like to make incorrect pairings to throw off pro-towners.
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Post by: Fifty
Well, I had better post as I worry I might start getting prodded if I don't.
Firstly, an OOCish post - We are all here to have fun. Let's please stop some of the negativity this thread has already seen.
Next - I have to admit to a certain tendency to side with some of the older players who I know better. So far, if I have not already played with you in other games, the only people who have stood out here are IGLannister, Halonachos and some Inquisitor_Syphonius(?)
Ferret seems as quiet as he has done in some other games.
Lord Loss, you seem slightly more defensive and argumentative, but nothing major.
Bishop Gore, you seem more chatty than the previous game.
Drk_O, you seem far more rational and sensible.
IGLannister, you seem very prickly and prone to see the worst in things.
Halonachos, you seem as if you post a bit too quickly sometimes, without thinking through what to say.
Inquisitor_Syphonious, you seem likea regular guy... so far.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I think you can usually get some quote evidence in Day 1. I don't think I would vote for someone without them actually doing something suspicous. There hasn't been any major suspicous stuff happen in the game so far. So I guess you're going for me cause even thought I've been acting pro-town (Scum hunting, not bandwagoning, not doing anything suspicous really) You're going off my playstyle and think that makes it ok to vote for me?
The tone of something typed is pretty hard to read sometimes. None of my posts should come across as 'angry' 'annoyed' at all. So I don't see how you draw the comparesent to the DE game.
Fifty, I'm not usualy this argumentive cause i'm not used to be attacked while I do nothing suspicous.
@Ferrett, I don't really know what you're trying to do, you arn't scum hunting, you havn't voiced any of your suspicons (Well not really) and you current behaviour isn't pro-town. Stop talking in riddles too.
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Post by: IGLannister
Yeah, but please note that my slight leaning towards a--holish behavior, when called upon, is always reviewed. And when necessary, I do apologize for said behavior.
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Post by: halonachos
Do we even have any really good Day 1 quotes? I mean besides this:
IGLannister wrote:So just a quick thing. I have this infected ingrown hair, and in order to treat it, a doc has to jam a needle right through the top, numb it, then slice it open with a scalpel.
But after 3 days of hotpacking, I popped it, and I'm in high spirits. So I'm stoked.
I doubt we can get anything off of posts like that. This is still the day we use random votes I guess, except that everyone's being too cautious in their voting.
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Post by: IGLannister
I agree. That was a good quote.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:
Golly gee, that IGLannister fellow is so manly. I wish I could be more like him, he is my hero!

Even better quote!
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Post by: IGLannister
Agreed. That quote is astonishing in it's truth and accuracy.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
TherVadam wrote:On the other hand, Drk_O seems to have stopped scumhunting, and stopped genuinely contributing since just a little bit after the posts.
There's not really much more I can do for now. Something needs to jump out at me again.
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Post by: Arheiner
Wow, people are taking my vote seriously, suprising. However the comment from Ther about having genuine reason to suspect him making the vote OK in his eyes is suspicious to me, you're either saying prove it or vote me off, and you know that I cannot prove it.
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Post by: the_ferrett
@Lord - EXCLUDING voting, what else am I meant to do? Jump on the person while playing the Ucaylali?
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Post by: halonachos
*Ukulele
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Post by: IGLannister
Deliverance style.
Just don't ask anyone to squeal like a pig.
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Post by: BishopGore
Lord-Loss wrote:I think you can usually get some quote evidence in Day 1. I don't think I would vote for someone without them actually doing something suspicous. There hasn't been any major suspicous stuff happen in the game so far. So I guess you're going for me cause even thought I've been acting pro-town (Scum hunting, not bandwagoning, not doing anything suspicous really) You're going off my playstyle and think that makes it ok to vote for me?
The tone of something typed is pretty hard to read sometimes. None of my posts should come across as 'angry' 'annoyed' at all. So I don't see how you draw the comparesent to the DE game.
Fifty, I'm not usualy this argumentive cause i'm not used to be attacked while I do nothing suspicous.
Once again you're getting horribly wound up just because someone is voting for you. I know you have something to hide because of this. Tone in these posts can be hard to read, but yours really isn't.
I don't have my .txt file with me right now, but I will get it and put together a full case against you. There's plenty of stuff so far I can pull out and show the people.
I know it might look like I'm hounding LL for no good reason at this point, but I know that he's invested in this game more than he gets when he's just town. He might be an inquisitor for the side of good, in which case killing him would be a bad thing, but it's far more likely he's a daemon or a cultist by the numbers.
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Post by: halonachos
Bishop, you have either screwed up my grouping of you two or confirmed it with that post. You're either not in agroup with him, or you're trying to distance yourself from him.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Actually that post was meant to be slightly aqnnoyed. I'm coing t include little tone boxes at the bottom of my posts now!
(Happy)
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Post by: SagesStone
╔════════╗
║Yay Boxes!!!!║
╚════════╝
Maybe votes should be in them...
Also I think it would be better if votes were now posted in colours rather than just bold. This way you can keep them within block of text for dramatic effect like some of you do. So from now, hopefully not being annoying to everyone, Unvotes are blue, Votes in red and votes for No Lynch in green. Of course still in bold as normal, but depending on how it goes I'll probably end up removing the bold requirement as it'll most likely become a waste of time. This way everyone can simply skim accross and find relevent posts that they may wish to quote.
Current votes
the_ferrett -0
ginger_nid_dude -3
VikingScott -0
Scarper -0
Lord-Loss -1
Drk_0blitr8r -1
Inquisitor_Syphonious -1
Paul Atreides -0
BishopGore -0
Arheiner -0
Karon -1
Fifty -1
Halonachos -1
Steempunk -0
BrotherStynier -0
IGLannister -3
TherVadam -1
No Lynch -0
With 17 alive 9 are required to lynch. Yet if this day phase were to run out of time the target with the most votes would go. That would be Lan/Nid at the moment to be decided randomly. Colour simply there to point out who would be lynched if the day phase ended at this point.
It's Thursday now leaving 5 days including today.
Vote log
Sorted like this voter (target)
Also split up into the colours for voting and unvoting so you can see a general ratio as well as spot any bandwagoning or such.
Also Votes for No Lynch will be in green.
Drk_0 (Ferret)
Halo (Drk_0)
Scott (Halo)
Nid (Scott)
50 (Nid)
Halo (Unvote Drk_0)
LL (50)
Syph (Drk_0)
Halo (Scott)
Lan (Scott)
Nid (unvote Scott)
Lan (unvote Scott)
Lan (No Lynch)
Scott (Unvote Halo)
Bishop (Ferret)
Bishop (unvote Ferret)
Scarper (Bishop)
Halo (unvote Scott)
Halo (No Lynch)
Drk_0 (unvote Ferret)
Drk_0 (Bishop)
Arhiener (Syph)
Paul (No Lynch)
Stynier (Karon)
Scarp (Unvote Bishop)
Halo (Unvote No Lynch)
Halo (Stynier)
Bishop (Halo)
Halo (Unvote Stynier)
Bishop's joke votes (not sure if he's still voting for halo, but I'm going to say he isn't until he does again )
Drk_0 (Unvote Bishop)
TherVadem (Lan)
Nid (Lan)
Lan (Unvote No Lynch)
Paul (Unvote No Lynch)
Scott (Stynier)
Scott (Unvote Stynier)
Halo (Lan)
LL (Nid)
Bishop (LL)
Drk_O (Lan)*
Vadem (Unvote Lan)*
Vadem (Vote Drk_O)*
NEW
Scott (Halo)
Vadem (Unvote Drk_O)
Vadem (Vote Nid)
Arheiner (Vote Vadem)
*Were missed so are not in the correct place
Also Lan 123 posts at the time of writing this (saw the complaining about the 100 posts)
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Arheiner wrote:After seeing the list in the signup and noticing Inquisitor_Syphonious was on it twice, he's obviously mutating clones of himself.
VOTE: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Did you unvote me? Make sure you do!
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Unless I am missing something, halonacho's votes are the least firm. He has a whopping seven votes/unvotes/no lynches... Heretical.
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Post by: Paul Atreides
BishopGore wrote:
...and Atreides because he's not getting nearly enough spotlight right now...
Only a few days left now.
I know, I'm scared too. Scared and strangely insulted.
I think the cultists have stopped mentioning me in an effort to make me look suspicious, just by not bringing me up. I feel used and threatened.
In all seriousness, I had a weak suspicion that maybe lord-loss is bad, and the reason he didn't protect halonachos as he did with others a bit earlier was because he knows he is not on his side, and was trying to frame him. And now you seem to sense something fishy too. Maybe it was more than a hunch. Or maybe we are just stupid together.
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Post by: IGLannister
Ah, the warming glow of recognition...I'm going to bask for a little bit, if that's ok.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Good idea n0t_u
It definately stands out more
I dislike this game, it's going to be AGES before we finally fully vote to lynch.
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Post by: halonachos
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Unless I am missing something, halonacho's votes are the least firm. He has a whopping seven votes/unvotes/no lynches... Heretical. 
Eight actually, and I am proud of it. I am not too stubborn that I will make a vote that lasts for more than several IRL days unless there is a fantastic amount of evidence.
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Post by: halonachos
I also thought that dark had laid a trap by voting for IG, I will guess that it is failed as nobody has acted funny since he did that, nobody attacked Drk even. I don't know so I'll keep it on IG until it gets close to deadline.
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Post by: Arheiner
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Arheiner wrote:After seeing the list in the signup and noticing Inquisitor_Syphonious was on it twice, he's obviously mutating clones of himself.
VOTE: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Did you unvote me? Make sure you do!
I already voted for someone else, mainly because by now I thought we'd completed day 1.
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Post by: halonachos
Nope, we still have about 3 days till day one is over.
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Post by: halonachos
Speaking of days, boy did I have a day today. I'm taking a sailing class and today we practiced recovery after capsizing. Well, I mean the whole class didn't, just me and the guy piloting the boat with me. We were tipping and he slipped while changing position and pushed the boat back into the water.
We got it up right and I got stung by a friendly little jelly fish who proved the existance of God to me. It didn't use philosophy, instead it used examples, the example being it missed by boys by about 4 inches(I was wearing loose shorts that's how that happened).
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Post by: IGLannister
The very thought of being stung by a jellyfish makes my penis shrivel.
But the lakers just won the finals, so I think that'll change here soon enough.
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Post by: halonachos
IGLannister wrote:The very thought of being stung by a jellyfish makes my penis shrivel.
But the lakers just won the finals, so I think that'll change here soon enough.
So, you're telling me that a championship win for the Lakers makes your penis immune to damage?
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Post by: IGLannister
No. A Super Bowl win by the Cowboys would make it immune. Lakers winning gives it accelerated healing.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
So do we know for certain that we want Nid or Lan yet?
Frankly I don't care who we get today as long as we get someone. Hopefully not one of our helpful power roles.
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Post by: IGLannister
I actually have an interesting penis injury story if you guys are interested.
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Post by: IGLannister
Awww, don't act like you're not interested.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
This is entirely taking away from the thread and is not helping.
Don't make me go after you like I've gone after Drk_O in the past. Just ask him about how that goes.
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Post by: IGLannister
So you're saying that if I don't stop discussing funny things in the room you're gonna try to vote me off?
Well, consider me dissappointed.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Yes I am going to try and vote you off because this thread is for playing Genestealer, not jerking off.
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Post by: IGLannister
Then go ahead. Do your worst man. I've cast my vote, and been voted against. Go nuts.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
VOTE: IGLANNISTER
Regardless, even if you roll up as an ally this is how it needs to be, you're clouding up the thread and making it hard to hunt.
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Post by: IGLannister
No, actually I'm not. I was having a delightful conversation about sports, jellyfish, and penises, until you rushed in with a hardline stance on "discussing the game or Ima get you" tactics. So vote your little head off, my friend.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Your delightful conversation about sports, jellyfish and penises have nothing to do with the game. All they do is fill the thread with clutter they don't help out one bit. This isn't even like the Drk_O thing, at least he tried to keep it having something to do with the game.
You want to discuss that other stuff take it to OT that's what that hole is there for.
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Post by: IGLannister
Hey there's downtime. For awhile it was only me and so e other dude on. He brought up jellyfish, I brought up the Lakers and genitals. Seeing as you were off doing something else at the time, I at least thought it would be okay to chat about interesting things like sailing and jellyfish and yada yada.
If you wanna try and persecute for people talking about anything unrelated to the game, then happy hunting my friend. But the fact is you have zero control over what the topic of conversation is.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
What you don't get is that its not like a chatbox where things go a way after a while, everything here stays it stays unless one of the mods clear it up.
There is no "downtime" its not just people from the US, or people that stay up all night here. When people come in they generally want things to be on topic, atleast that my experience from past games, they want it straight to the point.
Halonachos needs to stay on topic as well.
Like I said you can go to OT to discuss the Lakers, Penises and Jellyfish or you can use the PM feature the site has.
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Post by: VikingScott
I am tempted.
Oh so tempted to change my vote.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Who to VikiScot?
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Post by: VikingScott
Lan.
Because I'm not sure I wanted to read about...that.
Oh and as BrotherStyiener says: its off putting.
But then again if i did vote for him it would be like a bandwagon and me vote hopping.
So itg shall stay where it is for now.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Honestly, there isn't much you can do that won't make you suspicous. Like avoiding suspicion.
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Post by: VikingScott
I guess...
But it would be like voting for fluff reasons i feel.
So my vote stays where it is
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Failure to change your vote... Suspicion +1
Failure to adhere to my advice... Suspicion +1
We totally had a conversation in which neither of us accused each other of being scum!!! Suspicion +2
4 so far!!!
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Post by: VikingScott
So voting for some one for something that has no relayion to this thread is a good reason. Other than stopping further distractions.
Oh and if I did take you advice then it wouod seem that we were allies.
This has already been discused.
We are not.
Suspiscion of you = gone up.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Was totally an example of a point I wasn't trying to make anymore.
Anyway, you're good bro. Unless you're worshipping some crazy doods, or ARE crazy doods(plural intended), we're allies!
You're all totally my allies, I hope.
Anyway, if somebody does something, and something inside you makes you think about it again, then you should try to figure out why. When you know why, figure out how it sits with you. If it's cool, it's cool, cat, dog. But if it's not, vote for it, and it SHOULD go away! Or you could ask nicely...
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Post by: VikingScott
I'm all for figuring out who's town and allying with them.
But once a townie is cleared of all suspision (not likely but keep reading) then that is a sure to be night-killed townie.
But yeah cheers for the advice.
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Post by: SagesStone
This has just given me an idea to use the next time I host one of these games.
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Post by: VikingScott
Which is?
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Post by: SagesStone
A surprise. Wouldn't work if I told anyone though.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Is it a reverse?
Where you vote for people who you think aren't bad guys?
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Is it just me or is what LAN has started to do a bit like what dark o usually does? Just my 2 penneth
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Post by: TherVadam
Hm..... I don't know what to say at this point. I'm still following, but honestly I don't know.....
OK, either way, we need to try and get something. I'm going to go ahead and post a list of people, from most to least suspicious, and I hope you'll all volunteer the information as well:
Ginger_Nid_Dude, Drk_Oblitr8r - Arheiner (Interchangeable), Inquisitor_Syphonius, Halonachos, Fifty, Lord Loss, IGLannister, the_ferrett, BishopGore, VikingScott, Paul Atreides.
Keep in mind, however, that these are just the people I suspect most that have actually posted. At the same time, I don't necessarily want those I suspect to be lynched, for example, I'd prefer Drk_Oblitr8r was not lynched, even though I suspect him somewhat,
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Post by: TherVadam
Scratch that, move Bishop Gore to between Inquisitor_Syphonius and Halonachos.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Why am I so far up the suspect list?
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Post by: halonachos
Whoa, whoa stynier. Hold on for a second, are you telling me that the only reason you're voting for IG is because he went off topic? Are we still in the RVS? If you don't have any further evidence against him, I think you may be bandwagoning just to get him off. Explain yourself well and I'll put my vote back onto him, until then...
UNVOTE: IG
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Post by: halonachos
Also, what's up with the suspicion against GND? I haven't seen anything convicting him yet.
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Post by: IGLannister
Aight, first and foremost, this BS line of flawed logic that says anyone knows ANYTHING about where we stand is ridiculous. We won't know anything until someone gets offed by cultists, and even then, we won't know much.
Second, the line of reasoning used to vote for me for going off topic isn't related to finding heretics, so the very notion that my going off topic, and then someone voting for me for it, is also unrelated to finding heretics.
Thirdly:
Penis
Jellyfish
Sailing
That is all.
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Post by: halonachos
Stop IG. I forget who it was, but they were commenting on the civility of this game.
Stynier, I'm sorry for talking about my life here. IG, don't antagonise him further.
Stynier, you just flew off the handle. You knew that IG already had 3 votes against him in a tie with GND and that another vote would certainly condemn him to a lynching so I see no reason for you to threaten him with a lynching just because he responded to my off topic post. That was just plain scummy of you.
IG, don't push it. I think bishop said that votes are used to try and change a person's behavior. The only reason why I removed my vote from you is because someone being lynched due to going off topic for about 2 or 3 short posts is incredibly silly.
So go do something heretical and get back to us, alright?
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Post by: IGLannister
I'm not antagonizing. I added something to the thread, mainly that no one is suspicious, aside from what you can read into it.
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Post by: IGLannister
And no, I'm not going to be practicing any heresy.
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Post by: halonachos
You were, just chill out before a flame war starts and the game gets mod-locked before day one is even over.
In this RP, it would be the equivilant of an exterminatus killing everyone in the room. I'm trying to give you a second chance to think about that last post and to apologize as I did.
Also, I promise to stay on topic from here on out.
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Post by: IGLannister
...you had me at exterminatus.
Furthermore, I will relent. However, it should be noted that this is the third Lannister hunt that's gone on, and IVE been the one to apologize every time.
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Post by: halonachos
So I guess you're the Germany in this World War.
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Post by: IGLannister
Yes, but far more charming and no syphilis.
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Post by: halonachos
@ Stynier, the previous statements were concerning this game. I was comparing IG's situation to Germany after WW1 where all of Europe made Germany say that the was all their fault.
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Post by: VikingScott
@ Halonachos: The versailes Treaty
And If Lan only needed one more vote then I'm so glad i didn't switch my vote over.
(reasons in a post somewhere)
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Post by: halonachos
*Versailles
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Post by: halonachos
But yeah, stynier was clearly trying to threaten IG for going OT. I think its wrong to give a guaranteed lynching just because of that, its a lame excuse for just wanting to vote someone out to get it over with.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Nope, not weird, I am considering offing him myself on account of his ....ness... Only reason he backed off is because he doesn't want to be lynched.
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Post by: BishopGore
Here's looking at Lord-Loss
So far has had to defend himself against Halo's constant barrage of posts about the same topic over and over and over. Sort of explains why he's had to say the same thing several times. Halo likes to keep poking and poking and prodding...
LL wrote:Stynier, into Drk_Oblit actually does something suspicous, then you should stop this man hunt for him. He's been posting constructively and you dshould forcus on someone who has actually done something suspicous. :/ PAGE7
After your several denunciations of people who are 'leading' the group and saying they're scum, you begin to attack people who aren't voting the way you want people to vote. That looks a lot like leading, or possibly bullying, to me.
LL wrote:Once a Inqusitior announces himself he has literally killed himself, he won't survive another day phase, he has to make sure that he's defintelly got a baddie before annoucning himself.
Not really scummy, but bad advice, especially in this game, as the Inquisitors, if Not_U has kept his plans the same, can nightkill. And sometimes, if the doctor figure is paying attention, giving yourself away isn't a death sentence. Plus, a 1:1 ratio on scum to inquisitor is a bad trade, especially with so many cultists to contend with.
LL wrote:I've been nothing like the DE game, why? Cause I havn't tried establishing myself as the head of the town and I feel alot less involved in this game. Like Fifty, I'm having a hard time getting really "into it" but i'm trying my best.
I agree your playstyle has been different. In the DE game you could hide behind Shas'O but he was flitting and weird. In this game you've got Halo and IG both larking around and distracting all attention from you. If you're evil, you don't need to be so forceful, you can let natural selection take its course.
LL wrote:Fifty, I'm not usualy this argumentive cause i'm not used to be attacked while I do nothing suspicous.
I guess I just don't understand sometimes how you can get so wound up about this. This is Mafia, everything is suspicious to someone. I have my own way of sniffing out bad guys, and it often goes disastrously wrong, which is why most people won't take me seriously any more, but still, I get feelings (not those kind of feelings, pervert) whenever you post. Vibes and whatnot.
So in conclusion... I find you suspicious LL, but I guess I don't have enough to go on right now. You've been doing similar things to me, giving advice and being a little pushy, just in your own style.
Unvote:Lord-Loss
Back to the thread
I'm totally with Stynier. I've never seen a Mafia thread go so off topic, and honestly it's off putting and disrespectful. If I'd been on when the actual offence had been perpetrated I'd have jumped on that 'bandwagon' feeling fully justified, as removing a player that forces me to read all that rubbish is more pro-town than killing a cultist. I come here to play a game and that's what I want to do, not be subjected to that.
I'm not going to vote for IG this time around because I think it would be counter productive, I'd like to see him turn around and start focussing on the game, but I won't hesitate to join any vote against him next time. This thread is for Mafia, personal life can be included sometimes below useful content, but if you're just going to talk rubbish, go elsewhere.
In case I don't get back on before the day ends I'm going to vote now. Halonachos, you've been loud, aggressive and overbearing since day one. The threads fill up with your posts, sometimes several in a row. You're making scum hunting harder than it should be and you're making the thread a chore. I don't know if you're scum or a pro-towner with nothing better to do with your life, but it's got to stop, one way or another.
Vote: Halonachos
@not_u this colour thing is silly. If I promise not to put votes inside my blocks of text, can I leave them as normal colour please?
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Post by: SagesStone
Yeh, it was really a trial thing. So back to the normal way of voting
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Post by: VikingScott
So just bold?
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Post by: TherVadam
OK, by this point we really need a lynch. I'm keeping my vote with GND for the moment, but I'd be okay with an arheiner lynch (what can I say, I'm touchy, though this isn't likely), and unless anybody can convince me otherwise, I'd really prefer sticking with these people.
Inquisitor: I feel like you shouldn't have been that "high" up, but it was just that I only really suspect maybe 3-4 people, and the rest were just the rest, no really true order.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I don't think my Inqusitior advice was bad advice. It's bad to announce yourself as an Inqusitior into Day 2/3 atleast. You need to be sure you got a baddie and got enough evidence to convince the town he's a baddie. Saying that you're an Inqusitior and that you know so and so is a scummy bum only goes so far!
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
@ Scott and halo, Lan wasn't in danger of being lynched. If he'd had another vote then all of the chaos would have needed to bandwagon onto him, assuming that none of them were already on lan.
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Post by: VikingScott
I didn't know the full vote count and wasn't planning to change my vote.
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Also, I stick with my suspiscions of Lan partly as he and I are nearest to lynch as it would appear others agree wig me on his suspicious nature
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Post by: TherVadam
Err.... What are your suspicions of Lan? When you voted for him, it was because you were trying to motivate him to not vote No Lynch, and then you said that he was acting like Drk_O "Normally does", although in a different post, you said that Drk_O was "very random but not very scummy".
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Post by: IGLannister
So you're sticking with your vote for me because you and I have the same amount of votes? And because other people suspect me too?
Hmmm....
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
The intial bandwagon on Scott and the unreliable nature of you
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
IGLannister wrote:So you're sticking with your vote for me because you and I have the same amount of votes? And because other people suspect me too?
Hmmm....
If he votes for another person. He will die.
So... what would you do?
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Post by: Fifty
Unvote GND
I am still stuck due to the large number of voices all shouting at each other.
I am 100% with Stynier and Gore that IGLannister's posting is inappropriate, unhelpful and unwanted. There is an Off-Topic forum, if you feel the need to post about stuff like that. Repeats will probably see me vote for you. I actually do suspect that the weird posting is a smokescreen for scum-activity. You seem more like Drk_O than Drk_O himself does this game.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Fifty wrote:You seem more like Drk_O than Drk_O himself does this game.
I disagree, I am the greatest me to ever exist!
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Post by: halonachos
Bishop, I think you missed my previous post where I apologized for going OT.
Actually GND, the vote count was 3-GND, 3-IG so when synier voted for IG that brought it to 4-IG. This is okay and all, but the day phase is almost over so a full vote wouldn't be necessary as IG would have the most votes when the day phase ended. So yeah, it was almost as good as a death sentence.
Also, by unvoting GND, fifty might as well have voted for IG. You do have reasoning for this though so I don't think its funny at all.
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Post by: BishopGore
halonachos wrote:Bishop, I think you missed my previous post where I apologized for going OT.
The off topic is not why I'm voting for you. If I were voting for off topic then I'd be voting for IGLannister, since he's the worst perpetrator of that. I'm voting for you because of the way you play the game, which I feel is making it harder to read all the other players. That is the most pro-town move I can see right now.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Well Lan, you've stopped so I can undo this.
UNVOTE IGLannister
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Well, currently, it is 2-Lan 3-GND...
My vote is getting nothing done, and IG is a bigger suspect than GND.
UNVOTE-Drk_Oblitr8r
VOTE-IGLannister
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Post by: TherVadam
Actually I believe it was 2-Lan 2-Gnd. I know for a fact that GND did not have more votes than GND at that point, so by this point IGLannister is getting voted out. Drk_O, Halonachos, Ginger_Nid, and Inquisitor are the people voting for Lannister. Drk_O and Ginger_Nid I see no way of convincing any of you, but Inquisitor, Halonachos, I'm sure that this will probably do badly for my chance to survive, but please don't lynch IGLannister. I feel like he's done so much more than Ginger_Nid_Dude, even if he does have these... relapses in judgement.
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Post by: TherVadam
I mean, that GND did not have more votes than IGLannister
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
*Prepares noose around imperial shrine*
So... could we have a last minute count not_u?
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Post by: TherVadam
So, you're going to go through with this?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
I am almost positive that the tally is three and three at this moment.
I feel that lynching GND as opposed to LAN would be a mistake.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Nevermind, I see the unvote for GND now.
Anyway, bye-bye IGLannister...
I feel that while GND isn't doing anything, you're hurting pro-towners.
*Plays world's smallest violin*
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Post by: TherVadam
I'm relatively positive that the tally is 2 and 2...
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Post by: TherVadam
If not IGLannister, would you be satisfied with any other lynch?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Yes.
Drk_Oblitr8r
halonachos
BishopGore
VikingScott
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Post by: TherVadam
W00t W00t, pick a name, any name, and let's vote for that person. (Just not VikingScott, or BishopGore) I guess. Honestly, I do not know how far I'm willing to go with this. I'd prefer keeping Drk_Oblitr8r in at the moment, so Halonachos?
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Post by: TherVadam
Hm... My post didn't work. Anyway, essentially let's vote for Halonachos (no offense, I just devoted myself to a cause, and I want to keep it).
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Hmm...
It would be a staggering four votes against him, not enough for him to undo.
Now that I think about it...:
UNVOTE: IGLannister
((EDIT-Forgot to bold))
IGLannister is trying to help the game along.
TherVadam; you are now the deciding vote:
halo-2
Lanny-2
GND-2
The dice are in your hands.
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Post by: TherVadam
 I'm already voting for GND, so no way to get him lynched.
Unvote: Ginger_Nid_Dude
Vote: Halonachos
Let's see what happens.
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Post by: TherVadam
Can we get a little backup on this? Having just one extra vote feels a little dangerous.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
We don't need no water let the mother fether burn?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I'm glad we're starting to come to some kind of decision as a town.
I actually wouldn't mind a Viking Scott lynch. He has hardly contributed to the towen, he hasn't scum hunted and said several suspicous things.
(Sorry mate.  0
Vote:VikingScott
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
I still think that we're acting in little groups as opposed to a town.
Certain players just backing others, no real group decisions yet.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Because usualy on Day 1, you get one or two people who act pretty silly they 'Slip up' and we get the whole day about whether to lynch X person or Y person. They've both clearly been suspicous so there's a lot of agreeing.  And we get a more united town.
This hasn't happened this game.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
vote:gnd
I don't beleive Halo should be lynched, and I know you'll all try to see a conection between us. But I generally want him around more than gnd. Pretty much because we won't really notice him much (sorry bro, but you've only posted 3 or so times)
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
VOTE- halonachos
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
>_>
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Well, since you are my number one suspect, I couldn't do what you wanted... now could I?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
No, but I figured you'd try to think it through alittle more.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Everyone knows loyal imperial citizens are ignorant and blunt!
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Now that my trying to control Lan is done, who in all seriousness are we gonna lynch? Its hard to ask for good reasons and this time in the game but what are your best reasons for who you are voting for?
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Post by: SagesStone
Literally just got home, I'm in a different time zone you have to remember
This day has about 5 hours left by the way
So have fun with all the last minute rushing around. Maybe it will give you an idea of where to start in the next day phase.
Current votes
the_ferrett -0
ginger_nid_dude -2
VikingScott -1
Scarper -0
Lord-Loss -0
Drk_0blitr8r -0
Inquisitor_Syphonious -1
Paul Atreides -0
BishopGore -0
Arheiner -0
Karon -1
Fifty -1
Halonachos -4
Steempunk -0
BrotherStynier -0
IGLannister -2
TherVadam -1
No Lynch -0
With 17 alive 9 are required to lynch. Yet if this day phase were to run out of time the target with the most votes would go. That would be Halo at the moment.
Vote log
Sorted like this voter (target)
Also split up into the colours for voting and unvoting so you can see a general ratio as well as spot any bandwagoning or such.
Also Votes for No Lynch will be in green.
Drk_0 (Ferret)
Halo (Drk_0)
Scott (Halo)
Nid (Scott)
50 (Nid)
Halo (Unvote Drk_0)
LL (50)
Syph (Drk_0)
Halo (Scott)
Lan (Scott)
Nid (unvote Scott)
Lan (unvote Scott)
Lan (No Lynch)
Scott (Unvote Halo)
Bishop (Ferret)
Bishop (unvote Ferret)
Scarper (Bishop)
Halo (unvote Scott)
Halo (No Lynch)
Drk_0 (unvote Ferret)
Drk_0 (Bishop)
Arhiener (Syph)
Paul (No Lynch)
Stynier (Karon)
Scarp (Unvote Bishop)
Halo (Unvote No Lynch)
Halo (Stynier)
Bishop (Halo)
Halo (Unvote Stynier)
Bishop's joke votes (not sure if he's still voting for halo, but I'm going to say he isn't until he does again )
Drk_0 (Unvote Bishop)
TherVadem (Lan)
Nid (Lan)
Lan (Unvote No Lynch)
Paul (Unvote No Lynch)
Scott (Stynier)
Scott (Unvote Stynier)
Halo (Lan)
LL (Nid)
Bishop ( LL)
Drk_O (Lan)*
Vadem (Unvote Lan)*
Vadem (Vote Drk_O)*
Scott (Halo)
Vadem (Unvote Drk_O)
Vadem (Vote Nid)
Arheiner (Vote Vadem)
NEW
Stynier (Lan)
Halo (Unvote Lan)
Bishop (Unvote LL)
Bishop (Halo)
50 (Unvote Nid)
Stynier (Unvote Lan)
Syph (Unvote Drk_O)
Syph (Lan)
Syph (Unvote Lan)
Vadem (Unvote Nid)
Vadem (Halo)
LL (Scott)
Drk_O (Nid)
Syph (Halo)
*Were missed so are not in the correct place
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Post by: VikingScott
Well LL how could i be contributing more?
I thought being relitivly quiet when i am not sure of what i am thinking was better than my clogging up of the airways when i just did stuff like spell out what would happen to certain pepz when someone got lynched.
Obviously there is no quick fix to make you believe that I'm an imperial citizen but I am one.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I'm afraid it has come down to 'lynch the least useful' now. We don't have much time left. The possibility of anyone revealing there scum and the town being able to decde and get a mjajority in these five (maybe four noe?) hours isn't likely.
VikingScott, you could follow others leads. Asking questions, challenging peoples unlogical arguments with logic etc.
I don't think it's good to lynch Halo. Could Scott and Inqusitior (You voted for him cause Drk said he didn't find him suspicous? Sometyhing like tha. Well if you did could you unvote to put GND and Halo on 2-2 so stuff can happen. Note: I havn't slept properly in three days. Cut me a break. :p
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Post by: VikingScott
Ok then.
Ask questions.
Fine.
@anyone who voted GND. Why?
Whats makes him suspicious?
@people who voted Lan. Yeah I can see why you want to vote him off, I almost switched.
And I have been voting halo for the last page and a half before the deadline was looming over us.
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Post by: VikingScott
Oh and through 17 pages Steempunk hasn't put a single post up.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
No, I have reasons to vote for halo.
I just think that halonachos is being less useful then ginger_nid_dude.
I put my suspicions of halo on page 6-12...
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Post by: VikingScott
Oh and @LL
Would you rather i put up every little thought a la Halonachos?
I think thats why BishopGore is voting for him.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Wait, what?
If you coulf put up the reasons why you find Halo suspcious, or not useful to the town. Then please do.
You kind of agreed with me a few pages back and voted for him. I wasn't trying to convince people to vote for him hen (...I think!)
I just want to point out here that Halo has tryed and done alot more scum hutning then alot of people. He's an active player, he hunts and stuff.
I think there are some suspcious things about him(I mentoined them all before) but I'd rather wait a day before lynching a player who is generally acting pro-town. We don't have enough time to make a throughout decision about Halo. I'd rather lych people who are acting less pro-town and being less helpful to the town.
If he flips townoie and you don't put some good reasoning up Scotty ma boy! I'm coming for you.
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Post by: VikingScott
Obviously you want me to unvote him.
UNVOTE: Halonachos
Happy now?
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Post by: BishopGore
With only a few minutes left there's no time for scum hunting.
There is time to get rid of a voice that is drowning out everyone else. Overposting is as bad or worse than underposting. Whether Halo is good or bad, I feel the town will profit for his loss. If it turns out he's one of the inquisitors, well, then we're screwed, but I don't see that as likely.
I'm worrying for you a little Scott, you fold under pressure from one player, that's going to make the town nervous about you.
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Post by: VikingScott
More out of frustration than pressure IMO.
But LL doesn;t have many detractors here whereas i have a few.
So more people are going to trust him than me so if given the choice to vote for me or LL I'm deader than the dodo.
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Post by: TherVadam
Unvote: Halonachos
Vote: Ginger_Nid_Dude
What can I say? The opportunity arrived again.
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Post by: Paul Atreides
Vote: GND
As said earlier by wiser heads than mine, we need him less than we need halo or IG.
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Good grief, it appears the bandwagon has arrived for me. I will go out with dignity at least and not try to lynch halo.
Unvote: Lan
Vote: Me (GND)
Edit for bad bold tagging
And then to fix a spelling error
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Post by: Paul Atreides
We need halo, not despite how loud he is, but because of it. Hell, I'm surprised he is one of the prime targets rather than me.
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Post by: Paul Atreides
You should have pulled that trick earlier, when we would have time to consider things. Now we have like what? 5 minutes?
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Post by: TherVadam
Not_U , during the night, can you modkill the people who didn't post and promote some sad face townies?
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Post by: TherVadam
What trick did we pull out? I was just trying to keep IGLannister alive (for some reason)
w00t 11 squared posts! Math nerds FTW!
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Post by: Paul Atreides
Sorry I was referring to GND, what with voting for himself. That's an old one if ever there was one. But it only sowes doubt if there is time for it, something which is quite lacking at this point.
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Post by: VikingScott
Vote: IGlanister
Explain your votes for Ginger_Nid_dude you guys.
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Post by: VikingScott
Oh and I voted Lan as you guys claim we need Halo.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Because we should really stop studying and speak when you're all talking rot?
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Post by: TherVadam
My votes are like this: I have certain goals that come up: At the moment, I want for IGLannister to not get lynched, and for GND to get lynched. As it's so hard to get people to suspect others this time, these goals are quite misguided, I will admit. So, as IGLannister was definitely going to get lynched, I tried to get a 3rd party lynched, in this case Halonachos, but then when the opportunity arose, I went back to trying to get GND lynched. It shakes up the game, although I have to say I'm surprised that GND is actually a genuine lynch at the moment.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Why GND?
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Post by: TherVadam
I have to say, it's not so much that I had very much conviction against GND, but that I felt a need from the beginning to get a lynch. At one point, I had a suspicion against GND, but it's faded away a little. Still, I feel like the strong players aren't contributing enough to really push me in any other direction, so from the start I've just been pushing pushing pushing to get that one person lynched. At least I'm not just bandwagonning, right?
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Post by: Paul Atreides
Because it seems to me at this point everyone is settling for one of three choices: IG, GND, or Halo, and I don't really suspect IG or Halo, but I can't trust GND. I admit, that as I am lacking any strong suspicions, I am going by gut feeling, Emperor forgive me if I'm wrong.
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Post by: VikingScott
So both of you would rather GND went rather than one of the other two possible lynches?
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Post by: TherVadam
I've been going after GND from the beginning...
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Post by: VikingScott
Ok then.
No chance of you changing then.
Paul, why have you voted for GND?
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Post by: Paul Atreides
Yes, I would rather lose GND than I would IG or halo.
While they can be distracting, That is what makes them so important to us.
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Post by: SagesStone
Yep Vadem I mentioned that I would as a last chance to them. It kept the vote total even and I gave them more than a fair chance to join in.
With that quick and rather surprising turn around it is now Nid that dies. Story post up soon until then it's downtime. Guys with night abilities start thinking extra hard because you're about to use your ability soon.
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Post by: SagesStone
After a heated debate trying to determine who the enemy were you all pointed you attention to Nid. There were more people than you remembered at first and you didn't recognize his face so it surely must be him. Slowly they approach him, hands, guns, sharp objects, whatever weapon you could come accross raise in true angry mob fasion. Nid begged you all, tried to persuade you that he was truely one of the faithful. A small voice started to laugh inside his head, only he could hear it.
"Perhaps they are right, maybe it is you who is truely the enemy here" said the voice, making sure that it was clear that it was mocking him. Nid continued to back up, finally hitting the wall. His eyes darted around looking for somewhere to run. Eventually he just sighed and slumped to the floor. He had given up, he knew that there was no persuading them. They had almost gone after Halo, but at the last moment they had came to the conclusion that it was really Nid who was evil. He stopped them right before they began their beating; he lit a cigarette then laughed quietly to himself.
"You really think I'm not one of you.. Maybe you're right, I might be the only loyal citizen here" he said. He reached into his pocket and pulled out a pistol. He knew it had only one bullet in it, it was primitive and as such not a laspistol. He held it to the side of his head and inhaled on the cigarette deeply. "So, do you want to race?" he asked. You leaped at him, justice for the Emperor of mankind perhaps the only thing on your mind. He shot himself just as the first blow connected, the gun jammed. Nid burst into histerical laughter as they began to brutally bash the life out of him. When everyone was done, his head was caved in, his arms and legs broken and he was covered in various deep gashes and cuts. Blood had splattered all over the walls surrounding him and around the corpse of Nid teeth and brain matter could be found amongst the puddle of blood he sat in.
"PURGE THE HERETIC" came a loud raspy voice, Nid's corpse bursting into flames. As the corpse burnt and the foul stench or the event filled the air hystterical laughed spiraled and echoed around you. "Yes purge the heretic, following the corpse god as he sits on his huge golden highchair" continued the voice. "Oh yes that's right, a fair bunch of you are heretics as well and also follow that fool. But who is a bigger fool, the now corpse god or the idiots who follow him?" asked the voice. Before anyone could answer the voice continued their laughter and faded away. A small Aquilla from the Inquisitor's corpse flew from under the massive rock one that ended his life and landed in the fire onto of Nid's corpse.
Nid was an Imperial Citizen
It is now nightphase, the next day will start on Wednesday or when all the night phase ability people have told me what they are going to do; which ever is first. Those two who haven't joined in will be prodded one last time and if they don't reply, they will be removed.
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Foolish fools!!!
The real source of my power is my leather shoes...
urg
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Post by: SagesStone
You all wake up to a gruesome sight. There was a corpse laying in the middle of the room. His throat ripped out and various stab wounds, Stynier's corpse had a frozen expression of fear. Each of you began to look at each other with increased suspicion, and perhaps, paranoia. The corpse however started laughing. Shocked you all quickly turned to face it. Your look of fear met by a blinding light then the corpse going back to it's dead state, yet with a twisted grin now and doing a thumbsup.
Stynier was a Daemon
Perhaps now he's even possessing one of you without you even knowing. Scratching away at the back of your mind. Realising that he is there is too late.
Karon and Steempunk were also dead as if the life had just left them.
Karon's role will be randomly redistributed now and after that no more roles will be.
Dayphase two starts now
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Post by: VikingScott
I thoughtg he was a cultist and i voted for him too. Then again that was just on feelings....
I didn't know town side had night kills.
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Post by: VikingScott
Oh wait. Didn't it work like the deamon knows who all the cultist are but the cultists didn't know who the deamon was.
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Post by: IGLannister
So we lost a townie and a demon? Demon = chaos right? Or was it a special type thing?
Nvmnd. Just read on page 1, so clarified.
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Post by: SagesStone
Yep Daemons know the Cultists but not the other way around. They're more of an independant team, so while they may use the cultists they aren't necessarily on the same team.
If they're using the Cultists as a distraction to let them live until the end of the game, they're doing it right.
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Post by: VikingScott
A good start I guess.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Alright...
Cultists work in a group... right?
Look across the entire 16 pages...
Only a single group between players.
Paul
TherVadam
Lord-Loss
Halonachos
My guess is, that the above are all either cultists, or daemons.
Halo was on the chopping block, and in the last few minutes, they all voted against GND, to take the heat off halo.
Their only reasoning was "we needed him more than GND"... which is false, since halo is a cultist.
We know he is not a daemon, since the others rushed to his aid.
Halo delicately nudged to not vote for halo, which is why I think he is a daemon.
Paul and TherVadam are new, (AFAIK) so I think that these are rookie mistakes made by new guys, that condemned the anti-town.
It's right there! The evidence is on the last two pages.
VOTE-halonachos
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Post by: VikingScott
Seems reasonable.
I will wait for any counter-argument from these parties before I vote however.
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Post by: BishopGore
I'm definitely suspicious. The sudden surge against GND was obviously orchestrated by someone, but it's hard to tell who was caught up in the stupidity and who was pushing it.
Was very frustrated with how the tide turned from Halo, but we don't know for sure he was evil.
Glad Stynier was night killed, I probably wouldn't have suspected him for a while, he's a difficult one to read.
Vote: Lord-Loss
My suspicions stand as before, especially with the possible link between him and Halo which counteracts the whole rant they had at each other. Switching from halo to GND in the last few hours after growling at Halo for so long was scummy as all get out.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I switched from Halo to GND in the last few hours?
I'm pretty sure I did it days before, as the GND vote was actually meant to a pressure vote originally.
It came down to who contributed less to the town Bishop, we didn't have time by the end to make a lynch off who is the most suspicous. Well not a good, well though out decision anyway.
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Post by: VikingScott
Stupid Laptop.
Was writing a longish post and some error made me go back a page and lose it.
Anyway short ver.
Inq_Syph is now immune to night kills.
If he gets night killed then it proves he was right or at least on the right track.
But this could be fabrication by cultists.
Thats why I am waiting for a counter-argument first.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Inqusitor wrote:Their only reasoning was "we needed him more than GND"... which is false, since halo is a cultist.
Well there were five hours left and we needed to lynch someone. I stand by my decision to try and persuade people to not lynch Halo. He's been scum hunting etc and while he has done some suspicous things, and i'm keeping my eye out, I'd rather wait a day phase and get some more evidence first or stuff.
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Post by: TherVadam
Ummm.... Inquisitor, can you reexplain that?
1. I was always after GND, just because I suspected him from the start, and I didn't have any backup until near the end, but I guess that's not really a good argument, because if I was a cultist, I guess it could've just been a distraction or something like that.
2. On the other hand, you wrote: "Halo delicately nudged to not vote for halo, which is why I think he is a daemon." Just a little clarification, maybe?
3. What exactly are the rookie mistakes Paul and I made?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Huh? What? Where was I?
Ohh that's right
Vote: Lanny
I should have kept voting for him, ohhwell.
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Post by: TherVadam
OOC: What's a Black Guard?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Vampire Counts, I've had a promotion in rank!
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Post by: TherVadam
Fantasy? Ewwwwww
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Post by: SagesStone
Less bald screaming guys
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Post by: TherVadam
Exactly. It's less fun. Everyone loves bald screaming guys, but we're getting off topic. Drk, why do you suspect Lanny again?
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Post by: IGLannister
Am I off topic again?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Same as before. He's shifty. IIRC...
I figure this quotes good
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Lord-Loss wrote:Can Drk_Oblit and IG summorise why they feel each other are suspicous.
Lanny is self contradictionary. One moment, he's making strong comments, the next, he's completely given up on the what he was talking about completely.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Lanny, I thought about it for a sec, then came up with a paradox...
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Post by: VikingScott
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Vampire Counts, I've had a promotion in rank!
Off-topic I know but Black Guard are a Dark elf unit.
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Post by: IGLannister
Well, to continue to be your definition of a paradox, I'll stick with my vote.
vote: Drk_O
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
IGLannister wrote:Well, to continue to be your definition of a paradox, I'll stick with my vote.
vote: Drk_O
No.
The paradox was that you were asking if you were off topic, which was off topic, but you were asking
Wait. I didn't think it through properly. lol. I might have been thinking paradox, ohh well
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Post by: VikingScott
@Inquisitor_Syph:
What is your opinion of IGlannister?
Does he fit into your theory at all?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
VikingScott wrote:Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Vampire Counts, I've had a promotion in rank!
Off-topic I know but Black Guard are a Dark elf unit.
I know, I said I got a promotion in rank
I noticed it about 40 mins ago, I think it meant "Black Knight"
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Post by: IGLannister
Ok, cool. You're right. I'm still voting for you, but I misunderstood.
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Post by: IGLannister
Actually, no.
unvote: Drk_O
vote: Vikingscott
I'm a little flustered with Viking not inputting anything, and simply being a reflection of what other players think.
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Post by: VikingScott
Not inputting anything?
Read my posts, I am asking Inq_Syph questions on his accusations instead of blindly following them.
And what/where am I relfecting what others think?
You just moved several notches up the suspicion list.
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Post by: VikingScott
VikingScott wrote:
Inq_Syph is now immune to night kills.
If he gets night killed then it proves he was right or at least on the right track.
But this could be fabrication by cultists.
Thats why I am waiting for a counter-argument first.
So IGlanister you do not call this input?
Sharing my thoughts with the group?
So either you are randomly voting.
Or have some grudge against me.
Or I am on the right track.
I am a citizen. Not a cultist.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
TherVadam wrote:Ummm.... Inquisitor, can you reexplain that?
1. I was always after GND, just because I suspected him from the start, and I didn't have any backup until near the end, but I guess that's not really a good argument, because if I was a cultist, I guess it could've just been a distraction or something like that.
2. On the other hand, you wrote: "Halo delicately nudged to not vote for halo, which is why I think he is a daemon." Just a little clarification, maybe?
3. What exactly are the rookie mistakes Paul and I made?
Yay, immune to night kill!!!!
Anyhoo:
1.O.K., you're still shifty.
2.Oops, meant lord-loss delicately nudged not to vote for halo.
3.Paul kept going on about distratctions, and it is very clear that you, halo, and paul are cultists.
Lord-Loss... you're either very pro-town, or you're a daemon...
IGLannister:
Paul didn't need to include him, though he did, when he said something about halo and IGL being more important.
IGL has been just as shifty-more shifty as the rest of the cultists.
Halo has been way too careful not to rub anyone the wrong way. He is playing defensive, very defensive.
*Tries to salvage GND's burnt leather shoes*
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Paul Atreides wrote:Yes, I would rather lose GND than I would IG or halo.
While they can be distracting, That is what makes them so important to us.
We need halo, not despite how loud he is, but because of it. Hell, I'm surprised he is one of the prime targets rather than me.
Awfully incriminating from my point of view, what do you need a distraction for?
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Inquisitor_Syphonious' supect list:
Halonachos
Paul Atredies
TherVadam
IGLannister
Lord-Loss
Copy and pasted from word for 100% accuracy!
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Post by: IGLannister
Kind of odd that Stynier was so logical and was scumhunting but then...oops, turned out to be a demon. Once again...what logic is being shown here?
As for Scott (or Viking? Which do you prefer?) it seems to me that while everyone is scumhunting, like Syphonius, or (...) stynier, you seem kind of peripheral. I take back my statement that you have no input. Let me restate. You do give input, but it's more or less along the lines of what other players are feeling at that point, so to me at least it seems like your input is slanted.
I'm going to reference Stynier yet again. I'm sure that many in here, do to my so brazenly and rudely going off topic for three posts, thought that stynier was a townie. I'm sure he was suspect to some, but do to our argument, many of you figured I was a baddy. Then, what's this, he gets zapped and bang, daemon. So, as I'm sure I've stated before, this thing is still, even now, a tossup. So let's all treat it as such, and not reason that we have this special insight as to the nature of the heretic.
^ Scott
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Post by: VikingScott
So lanny got a counter-arguement?
Or do you realise that you were wrong in your thoughts of me not contributing?
@Inq_Syph you haven't answered my question although you acknowledged the post it was in.
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Post by: IGLannister
And please, call me Lann.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
IGLannister? He is in my theory.
@IGL...
BrotherStynier was logical, though he wasn't scum hunting.
He was really just pretending to scum hunt.
He was voting for people that he knew were citizens (AFAIK)
He was flying under the radar, waiting to night-kill.
You should know, since he possessed you.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Bah! Ninja'd. Lann.
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Post by: IGLannister
So, first I was voted for going off topic.
Then I was a suspected cultist.
Now Im IG_Stynier.
Okey-dokey. Your guys logic has worked out so far...
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Post by: VikingScott
@Inq_Syph.
How do you know that IGLan is possessed?
Any proof or just gut feeling?
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Post by: TherVadam
I'm confused..... what did I do again?
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Post by: TherVadam
BTW how old are you Lann?
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Post by: Fifty
If I was going to possess someone, I think it would be someone who was similarly vocal to me. Based on that logic, if we want to find Stynier's possessee, we should think of people who were posting a similar amount to him...
He might possess someone very chatty, but it seems unlikely he would possess someone who has not been chatting very much.
Also, I would be likely to possess someone who didn't vote last time, so that I could make them vote this time (He can do that, right?) and not lose someone else's vote from the pile of votes.
So, I think someone who was chatty last time and who didn't vote is probably the possessee.
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Post by: TherVadam
Well.... it's not me. *Shifts eyes back and forth*
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Post by: VikingScott
Lan you have until I get back from my meeting to give me a reply.
If you haven't then I have good cause to vote for you.
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Post by: IGLannister
24. Why? And if stynier has possessed someone, we should see a rant about off topic discussion. So when we see that, well know who to go for.
See that ghost-stynier? Off topic evidence ftw.
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Post by: IGLannister
And Scott, I gave you a reply. Look for it.
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Post by: halonachos
Oh man, I was lucky as hell. I was up in a hospital getting a chest x-ray done so I missed my chance to vote and to defend myself.
It also feels good to be needed, but syphonius is really aggressive right now. I don't know what changed, but he seems to be on some great offensive right now. Seeing as though a lot of people rushed to my defence(me being one of the more suspicious people) they all seem guilty of being in a group with me.
If what fifty says is true then I would put the possesse as either LL or bishop. In one of my earlier posts I noted a similarity in play style among stynier, LL, and bishop so it is very possible that the latter two are now possessed by our now-dead demon. I would also like to point out that within the last few pages both bishop and stynier condemmed the OT posts of Lann and I.
So, my bet is that stynier is possessing LL because he would want the same play style, but not the closesly related anti-OT voting. That is of course, just a guess.
Also, syphonius could be possessed and targeting the most suspicious people of the last day phase and those who didn't vote for a member of the most suspicious people list.
Like I said, syphonius had a huge attitude change and LL is my best bet on the person who was possessed. Bishop is also a possible target, but I think that if stynier is smart he will avoid a possesse that is too similar to him.
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Post by: Inquisitor_Syphonious
Who said IGStynier?
Anyhoo:
My feelings have been that the first day is useless, and that the second is where to get down and dirty. That is the mood "change".
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Post by: halonachos
Scott still seems like scott, nice small posts. We will have to see if he continues to fold under pressure from one person though. If he does then its still scott.
Fifty hasn't given too much character so that will be hard to tell. However, his hinting about who a demon should possess(notice he listed characteristics he didnt have) is also iffy. We will have to watch his regularity.
IG is still acting the same(no large posts).
Vadam is new so there is little character to go on if he is possessed we possibly wouldn't know it.
Paul, ferret, and scarper have given us very little to go on in terms of identity.
Syhponius has gotten a lot more aggressive in his posts.
Bishop is still attacking LL and LL is still defending in their own private war.
Drk_O has remained Drk_O, but he talked a lot so his chances are small.
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Post by: IGLannister
It's called irony, syph.
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Post by: TherVadam
To Lann: My friend grew up in Portland and is moving back to Portland. If you were the same age as we were, I would want you to continue my efforts to convince him to play Imp Guard, alas...
On topic, however, somehow, now that Syphonius is taking such an offensive, I feel I am taking a back seat somewhat, and don't have much to say other than defending myself. Isn't that what happened to Halonachos or someone during day one though? That they were speaking too much, and others felt they were taking a back seat? Oh well, just my ramblings of the day...
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Post by: TherVadam
Also, what about Karon's role? Isn't anyone worried about that, as chances are, they're scum (considering there's what, 3 pro-town roles), which means another new person. Hm.... although the only person that I feel is definitely not the new scum, is Inquisitor_Syphonius, as most people would try to continue in the same way as before, instead of gigantic changes.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Don't you have to be Pysky (spell?) guy to be possesed?
I'm not possesed.
I see the big difference in Inqusitiors game style and it makes me... suspicous.
Scott has actually been scum hunting since the begining of Day Two, so I don't see any votes against his currently (He did some suspicous stuff on Day One but not enough for a Vote) as being pro-town.
I don't know why Bishop is attacking me, he's probally jealous of my charm & wit!
Inqusitior@ You've claimed that Lann is possesed and Nachos is a cultist, just like that. There's no might or probally. You could only know if someone is a cultist if you were an Inqusitior and it's currently not possible to know who Styner possesed. I think, would it come up on an Inqusitiors investigation during the night phase N0t_u?. But anyway, are you admiting to be an Inqusitior?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Vadam@ I didn't think that the change in Inqusitiors playstyle could be down to a role change. That's a possibly of course and the town will have to look out for change in playstyles.
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Post by: IGLannister
Dude, to be perfectly honest, i don't care how old your friend is, no one will hook up with me to play ):
Tell your broseph to gimme a call, dude, I'll gladly convince him to Go Guard.
Furthermore, can everyone who STILL thinks I'm a heretic please stand up? And by that I mean announce it, so I can know whose faces to rub it in when They finally realize I'm just a humble serf.
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Post by: TherVadam
Alright, but my "broseph" is 14...
To Lord-Loss: I was saying that I thought it was impossible that Inquisitor got the role change, because it would be so obvious to change directly after a role change.
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Post by: TherVadam
Also, it was less Go Guard as much as it was "You should play Warhammer 40k, there's a faction you would love called Imp Guard!"
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Post by: Paul Atreides
Inquisitor_Syphonious, I am not surprised that you suspect me.
In your seat, I would probably suspect me too.
I know I have nothing but my word of honour, but I will still say, for what it's worth,that my actions were based on noobplay and gut feeling. But my stupidity cost the town greatly, and I could full well understand if you would like to see lynched.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Uh....Uh?
What did you do again Paul?
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Post by: Paul Atreides
I participated in the lynching of the now proven innocent GND, remember?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Well you usualy end up lynching a townie on Day One, you try your best but you shouldn't beat yourself up when it happens.
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Post by: Paul Atreides
You are right. Even as we speak, this tragic mistake is transforming from an embarrasing failure into a learning experience.
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Post by: Fifty
halonachos wrote:Fifty hasn't given too much character so that will be hard to tell. However, his hinting about who a demon should possess(notice he listed characteristics he didnt have) is also iffy. We will have to watch his regularity.
Well, the simple fact I am now posting twice in the same day is a massive change in regularity for this game, but if you look at previous games you'll find I normally post a lot.
To be honest, this game only just got interesting. Prior to the night-phase, all there seemed to be was a lot of noise.
I also have a history of trying to get rid of people I think are bad for the game... (I wanted Arheiner DM-killed in a previous game.) This time, I thnk I'd like to see IGLannister gone. I don't think he makes the game fun with his attitude. That is almost enough to make me vote for him. Make of that what you will, wrt suddenly disliking off-topic or otherwise, but I had already said I don't much like him, IIRC.
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Post by: halonachos
Lord-Loss wrote:Uh....Uh?
What did you do again Paul? 
He also said that you guys needed me in the game.
As far as syphonius goes, I don't know what he's doing. It would still be dangerous to even jest at being an inquisitor as we most likely still have a full cultist number and a rogue-psyker that can work against them that is still around 4-5 votes so...
Also, we still have some remaining demons that will up the vote count to well, past majority thanks to the players that were kicked out. In fact, instead of losing 2 players(stynier and GND) we lost 4. So instead of 17 we now have 13 players, majority would be 7. Also, we can count the possessed player as a chaos player so that means there are only; wait, some speculation and math.
Cultists=4
Demons=2-1=1+1(possession)=2
Rogue psyker=1
Total baddies=7
Total players=13
Players-baddies=6
Townies=6
So that means that we now have a greater chance of hitting anti-town than pro-town.
Although it mean that the anti-town has a greater chance of winning.
Also, I think we could pen up syphonius's newfound aggression due to possession. Although, I would rather wait for the inquisitor to banish stynier from his body just in case because I suspect LL and bishop more of possession.
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Post by: VikingScott
IGLannister wrote:And Scott, I gave you a reply. Look for it.
I found it after looking back.
Funnily enough in a post than proir didn't have it.
By that I mean edited.
There is no note saying why it was edited.
IGLannister wrote:As for Scott (or Viking? Which do you prefer?) it seems to me that while everyone is scumhunting, like Syphonius, or (...) stynier, you seem kind of peripheral. I take back my statement that you have no input. Let me restate. You do give input, but it's more or less along the lines of what other players are feeling at that point, so to me at least it seems like your input is slanted.
I'm going to reference Stynier yet again. I'm sure that many in here, do to my so brazenly and rudely going off topic for three posts, thought that stynier was a townie. I'm sure he was suspect to some, but do to our argument, many of you figured I was a baddy. Then, what's this, he gets zapped and bang, daemon. So, as I'm sure I've stated before, this thing is still, even now, a tossup. So let's all treat it as such, and not reason that we have this special insight as to the nature of the heretic.
^ Scott
This post.
Was edited without a given reason. Thats a breach of the rules.
So ok I got a reply.
Still voting for me I see.
VOTE: IGLannister
For I think even if he is town it will make scum hunting easier.
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Post by: VikingScott
More proof that it was edited is that my post directly after doesn't make too much sense.
As if i didn't read the prior post. Which I did.
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Post by: TherVadam
Hm... Lann is starting to look more and more suspicious. I guess I made the wrong decision when I tried to protect him. My new protege is...... VikingScott!
Meanwhile, Vote: IGLannister
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Post by: IGLannister
Ok...wait, I didn't get that. How did I violate the rules this time?
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