Squigsquasher wrote: Incidentally, The Lion King was a shameless ripoff of a Japanese anime film, Kimba the White Lion. Several of the scenes were almost direct clones.
Oops. Nice work Disney.
And Osamu Tezuka was in turn inspired to create what literally BECAME anime (Kimba and Rocket Boy being the real start of the genre as we know it) from Disney's Duck Tales. So share and share alike?
d-usa wrote: This will get worse before it gets better...
Does anyone else see the irony of 40k fans arguing about lack of originality in a product?
There's almost nothing new under the sun, especially when it comes to story telling. There's very few movies or books can't be traced back to classical or even ancient stories, they just adapt them to make them apear a bit more modern but the foundation has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Disney's touch isn't in creating things new cloth, instead where they shine is how they present the tale as a complete fluid production. Pretty much like how every top tier ballet company does swan lake or an orchestra plays mozart. The art is in the presentation (narration) of the story and the mood they set that makes them unique, not the root material itself.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Grey Templar, Walt was a racist and an anti-semite! Modern Disney has gone to great lengths to airbrush him out of their history If anything, some people at Disney were glad the day he died!
I agree with what rockerbikie said. Let's have a collective noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Yes, let's get angry over something when we haven't even seen the results.
This is the same company which said the Jonas Brothers and Highschool Musical are ok... nothing good will come out of it.
And they also said The Avengers, Iron Man, are ok so what's your fething point?
The Avengers was a gak poor movie that didn't follow the comics and Iron man was mediocre.
Bromsy wrote: neck liposuction... neckrosuction.... necrons... he's the first necron. gak.
Hah!
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rockerbikie wrote: The Avengers was a gak poor movie that didn't follow the comics and Iron man was mediocre.
Well there's always one, isn't there?
Meanwhile, is there a weaker complaint for any piece of media than 'it didn't follow the source material'?
The story is bland, I do not like the portrayal of Hulk and Loki was too weak for my liking. It was a mediocre film that should of been so much more. As an amateur Screenwriter, a movie fan and a fan of the Marvel Universe I am digusted at the average attempt. It lists among my biggest disappointments along with Batman and Robin.
Bromsy wrote: neck liposuction... neckrosuction.... necrons... he's the first necron. gak.
Hah!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
rockerbikie wrote: The Avengers was a gak poor movie that didn't follow the comics and Iron man was mediocre.
Well there's always one, isn't there?
Meanwhile, is there a weaker complaint for any piece of media than 'it didn't follow the source material'?
The story is bland, I do not like the portrayal of Hulk and Loki was too weak for my liking. It was a mediocre film that should of been so much more. As an amateur Screenwriter, a movie fan and a fan of the Marvel Universe I am digusted at the average attempt. It lists among my biggest disappointments along with Batman and Robin.
I loved the Hulk his brutal simplicity was a nice contrast to the more intelligent super heroes, I don't see how the movie screwed him up he's like Jekyll and Hyde and the movie did a great job of showing his split personalities you have a casual, fairly normal, calm scientist and bat gak insane monster. And Loki's campy over the top persona was perfectly appropriate for the tone of the movie. And with about half a dozen main character you're going to need a fairly simple story in order to give time with getting know the characters.
Bromsy wrote: neck liposuction... neckrosuction.... necrons... he's the first necron. gak.
Hah!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
rockerbikie wrote: The Avengers was a gak poor movie that didn't follow the comics and Iron man was mediocre.
Well there's always one, isn't there?
Meanwhile, is there a weaker complaint for any piece of media than 'it didn't follow the source material'?
The story is bland, I do not like the portrayal of Hulk and Loki was too weak for my liking. It was a mediocre film that should of been so much more. As an amateur Screenwriter, a movie fan and a fan of the Marvel Universe I am digusted at the average attempt. It lists among my biggest disappointments along with Batman and Robin.
I loved the Hulk his brutal simplicity was a nice contrast to the more intelligent super heroes, I don't see how the movie screwed him up he's like Jekyll and Hyde and the movie did a great job of showing his split personalities you have a casual, fairly normal, calm scientist and bat gak insane monster. And Loki's campy over the top persona was perfectly appropriate for the tone of the movie. And with about half a dozen main character you're going to need a fairly simple story in order to give time with getting know the characters.
True but Hulk seemed too much like a comedic relief character...
Really? I thought Iron Man was the comic relief, I mean there was a few funny moments with the Hulk but most of the time with the Hulk was just watching him smash and yell.
The Avengers wasnt that bad in all honestly..... I did like it but then again i havnt read the comics......
But getting back on topic i do have to say i am dreading this as should we all. Please remember that this is the company that brought us that abomination known as Harry Potter..........
master of ordinance wrote: The Avengers wasnt that bad in all honestly..... I did like it but then again i havnt read the comics......
But getting back on topic i do have to say i am dreading this as should we all. Please remember that this is the company that brought us that abomination known as Harry Potter..........
I thought the Harry Potter movies were a lot of fun to watch and most film critics seem to enjoyed them, it was also a financial success so I wouldn't call it an abomination.
I never got in to the Harry Potter films. I think it was the horrible acting from the first two that killed the series for me and I never was able to get back into them.
Cheesecat wrote: I thought the Harry Potter movies were a lot of fun to watch and most film critics seem to enjoyed them, it was also a financial success so I wouldn't call it an abomination.
Yeah, I mean, I never got the Harry Potter thing* myself, but they were a critical and commercial success, and wildly loved by their fan base, so calling them an abomination is a bit much.
I think us geeks more than most people confuse 'I don't like this' with 'this is bad and no-one should like it'.
* I read and enjoyed the first book, but honestly it then felt like a story that was done. I saw a few of the movies after that and never could shake that feeling. Character bloat and increasingly overblown stakes that ultimately came back to the same conflict from the first book.
A screenwriter has already produced a 40- to 50-page treatment for Star Wars Episode 7, the first of the new trilogy that was announced in connection with the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm (see "Disney Acquires Lucasfilm!"), according to Vulture. Michael Arndt, who won an Oscar for Little Miss Sunshine and was nominated for Toy Story 3, has completed his treatment and is the leading candidate to pen the full script, according to the report.
The treatment is going to be pitched to top directors including Brad Bird (Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol), Steven Spielberg, and J.J. Abrams.
The studio hopes to get the three central stars from the first film to play the characters much older: Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill.
The Vulture story is based on information from "informed sources," with no direct comment from any of the people involved, so should probably be taken with a grain of salt until confirmed, although Vulture is usually reliable.
Little Miss Sunshine was/is superb ... not sure if it quite qualifies one to write a Star Wars film but should/could at least provide a tad more depth and better dialogue anyway.
... Be somewhat surprised if Paramount let JJ Abrams direct it, stranger things have happened though I guess.
They could always get the Paranormal Activity guy who's the flavor of the month and everywhere now, and film the whole movie from R2D2's camera, like it was a home movie that him and C3PO made that just happened to document an evil sith lord possessing someone.
A screenwriter has already produced a 40- to 50-page treatment for Star Wars Episode 7, the first of the new trilogy that was announced in connection with the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm (see "Disney Acquires Lucasfilm!"), according to Vulture. Michael Arndt, who won an Oscar for Little Miss Sunshine and was nominated for Toy Story 3, has completed his treatment and is the leading candidate to pen the full script, according to the report.
The treatment is going to be pitched to top directors including Brad Bird (Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol), Steven Spielberg, and J.J. Abrams.
The studio hopes to get the three central stars from the first film to play the characters much older: Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill.
The Vulture story is based on information from "informed sources," with no direct comment from any of the people involved, so should probably be taken with a grain of salt until confirmed, although Vulture is usually reliable.
Little Miss Sunshine was/is superb ... not sure if it quite qualifies one to write a Star Wars film but should/could at least provide a tad more depth and better dialogue anyway.
... Be somewhat surprised if Paramount let JJ Abrams direct it, stranger things have happened though I guess.
He did Star Trek which made a buttload of money though.
... Be somewhat surprised if Paramount let JJ Abrams direct it, stranger things have happened though I guess.
He did Star Trek which made a buttload of money though.
Yes, but for a rival studio. As Paramount have hopes of continuing theri successful reboot I wonder how alright they'd be with him going into to bat for, effectively, their biggest opposition.
Course there my be no contractual issues at all...
A screenwriter has already produced a 40- to 50-page treatment for Star Wars Episode 7, the first of the new trilogy that was announced in connection with the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm (see "Disney Acquires Lucasfilm!"), according to Vulture. Michael Arndt, who won an Oscar for Little Miss Sunshine and was nominated for Toy Story 3, has completed his treatment and is the leading candidate to pen the full script, according to the report.
The treatment is going to be pitched to top directors including Brad Bird (Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol), Steven Spielberg, and J.J. Abrams.
The studio hopes to get the three central stars from the first film to play the characters much older: Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill.
The Vulture story is based on information from "informed sources," with no direct comment from any of the people involved, so should probably be taken with a grain of salt until confirmed, although Vulture is usually reliable.
Little Miss Sunshine was/is superb ... not sure if it quite qualifies one to write a Star Wars film but should/could at least provide a tad more depth and better dialogue anyway.
... Be somewhat surprised if Paramount let JJ Abrams direct it, stranger things have happened though I guess.
He did Star Trek which made a buttload of money though.
A screenwriter has already produced a 40- to 50-page treatment for Star Wars Episode 7, the first of the new trilogy that was announced in connection with the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm (see "Disney Acquires Lucasfilm!"), according to Vulture. Michael Arndt, who won an Oscar for Little Miss Sunshine and was nominated for Toy Story 3, has completed his treatment and is the leading candidate to pen the full script, according to the report.
The treatment is going to be pitched to top directors including Brad Bird (Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol), Steven Spielberg, and J.J. Abrams.
The studio hopes to get the three central stars from the first film to play the characters much older: Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill.
The Vulture story is based on information from "informed sources," with no direct comment from any of the people involved, so should probably be taken with a grain of salt until confirmed, although Vulture is usually reliable.
Little Miss Sunshine was/is superb ... not sure if it quite qualifies one to write a Star Wars film but should/could at least provide a tad more depth and better dialogue anyway.
... Be somewhat surprised if Paramount let JJ Abrams direct it, stranger things have happened though I guess.
He did Star Trek which made a buttload of money though.
If anything, some people at Disney were glad the day he died!
