Wow, I was thinking of making a Deathwatch force for my Grey Knights using SM allies; guess I won't hav to be converting a scout squad anymore...those recon legionnaires are awesome!
I've said it before, but there's something about these mark IV squads I just love.
I love the Thallax, and the breacher squads look wonderful .The recon guys just feel like they have dishcloths as capes, surely you'd need more coverage than that for camoflage?
MajorWesJanson wrote: Mechanicum = 30K, prior to civil war with Dark Mechanicum and reorganization under Fabricator-General Kane.
Adeptus Mechanicus = 40K era.
The Admech grew out of the Mechanicum, but is far different, just like the Imperium of Mankind is far different in the "present" era than pre-couch potato Emperor era. If the various styles of pre-heresy and heresy Imperial equipment can look quite different from "modern" tech, why not Mars-tech?
They are still referred to as the Mechanicum in 'modern' times. They certainly changed as time went by, but the names are not something that changed.
H.B.M.C. wrote: And I hope we do. I just hope we get a little more "Tech Guard" and a little less "Robo-Legion".
I thought the rumour was that FW wouldn't be doing regular Skitarii units, and that we wouldn't be seeing a FW-HH book set on Mars for years if at all, rather that they would get odd(in both senses of the word) units here and there in the other books?
Anyway, I think they fit the Mechanicus aesthetic just fine, although I do intend to fix the head facing forward and integrate it into the torso more on mine. I'll also probably get rid of the daft mini-Saturn V rocket-bell bits on them.
EDIT: Medium, they also get a modest variation on the Land Raider and a Special Character, but the scope of the book didn't really allow for them to feature heavily. Hopefully "Massacre", with the inclusion of the Iron Hands and the portable fortifications described in the HH novels about the dropsite massacre, will feature more of the Ordo Reductor at least, although it would be nice to see some Legio Cybernetica forces as well. If only so we could finally get a definitive answer on how big the various types of Robot are supposed to be.
Ran across this image the other day and I have no idea if it has been shown yet. Guessing it is an EC upgrade pack going by the aquillas and pads. What else are we expecting from FW space marine wise? I think all the kits they previewed (besides this one have been released right?)
I thought the rumour was that FW wouldn't be doing regular Skitarii units, and that we wouldn't be seeing a FW-HH book set on Mars for years if at all, rather that they would get odd(in both senses of the word) units here and there in the other books?
They really need to give Thallaxii rules for 40K. Simple PDF for using them in an IG army would suffice for now. I have no interest in playing HH, but I've great interest in HH models to be used in 40K. I am probably not the only person feeling this way.
Commander Cain wrote: Ran across this image the other day and I have no idea if it has been shown yet. Guessing it is an EC upgrade pack going by the aquillas and pads. What else are we expecting from FW space marine wise? I think all the kits they previewed (besides this one have been released right?)
MajorTom11 wrote: Tha definitely looks like a dedicated EC MKIV variant, note the pad and the similar aesthetics in the IAHH book and on the EC Contemptor -
Good call! More helmets coming out? Part of a squad, maybe?
EDIT: I just flipped through the HH and Space Marine infantry kits and didn't see any helmet that looks like that one.
MajorTom11 wrote: Tha definitely looks like a dedicated EC MKIV variant, note the pad and the similar aesthetics in the IAHH book and on the EC Contemptor -
Good call! More helmets coming out? Part of a squad, maybe?
EDIT: I just flipped through the HH and Space Marine infantry kits and didn't see any helmet that looks like that one.
The contemptor for comparison.
I'm fairly sure that infantry helmet features on some EC in the Collected Visions book, I'll check in a few mins.
EDIT: Yep, it or something similar shows up in several places, best example is page 147.
I thought the rumour was that FW wouldn't be doing regular Skitarii units, and that we wouldn't be seeing a FW-HH book set on Mars for years if at all, rather that they would get odd(in both senses of the word) units here and there in the other books?
They really need to give Thallaxii rules for 40K. Simple PDF for using them in an IG army would suffice for now. I have no interest in playing HH, but I've great interest in HH models to be used in 40K. I am probably not the only person feeling this way.
I'll just be using the rules as-is as an Elite choice for IG, I only get a few games a year with mates anyway so there won't be any objections, and frankly anyone who would object to house ruling it that way isn't someone I;d be interested in playing against. It would be nice if they did a proper "40K Approved" entry though I agree, to help out those gamers who're stuck playing against the sorts who consider the rulebook an inviolate Holy Bible.
I'll just be using the rules as-is as an Elite choice for IG, I only get a few games a year with mates anyway so there won't be any objections, and frankly anyone who would object to house ruling it that way isn't someone I;d be interested in playing against. It would be nice if they did a proper "40K Approved" entry though I agree, to help out those gamers who're stuck playing against the sorts who consider the rulebook an inviolate Holy Bible.
I'm sure my friends be cool with house ruling it too, but I'd still rather have actual rules for it. And of course in any tournament you'd need real, official rules.
I'm fairly sure that infantry helmet features on some EC in the Collected Visions book, I'll check in a few mins.
To clear any confusion from my post, I meant I flipped through the Space Marine and HH infantry products on the Forge World site and didn't see this helmet.
Like you, I'm nearly 100% positive I've seen that helmet in artwork before. Specifically, one of the color plates in the Forge World Horus Heresy:Betrayal book.
I think that the Thallaxii are an awesome way to retcon the Imperial Robots of the Rogue Trader era. Back then they were controlled by actual AI cortexes, and with AI after the Iron Men period not being a part of the 40K fluff anymore, having the Adeptus Mechanicus building smaller, rougher versions of Dreadnoughts (or like said before, essentially Imperial 'Wraithguard') is a perfect way of bringing Robot Maniples back.
I only wish it wasn't so expensive for three models (especially after shipping to the US), but that's the luxury of FW for you..
AegisGrimm wrote: I think that the Thallaxii are an awesome way to retcon the Imperial Robots of the Rogue Trader era. Back then they were controlled by actual AI cortexes, and with AI after the Iron Men period not being a part of the 40K fluff anymore, having the Adeptus Mechanicus building smaller, rougher versions of Dreadnoughts (or like said before, essentially Imperial 'Wraithguard') is a perfect way of bringing Robot Maniples back.
I only wish it wasn't so expensive for three models (especially after shipping to the US), but that's the luxury of FW for you..
Hell, FW seem to have normalized high prices for "special" resin minis, look at Kingdom Death and that fantasy gladiator game kickstarter; I need to learn to sculpt faces(my Achilles Heel) so I can put out sculpts with "boutique" slapped on them and charge £10+ a pop for about 50p of resin
I think the Thallax look awesome; great models as ever by Forge World. I love the idea behind them too: very dark and efficient.
I do to an extent share the sentiments expressed by some about them looking a bit too non-Imperial, but for me I feel that's only at a distance. Once you look at the individual pictures I feel it looks very man-made and unlike that produced by any of the Xenos. So overall a big thumbs-up from me!
Crimson wrote: How are those expensive? It's three rather large resin models. Its' about 9 pounds per a Thallax. I think these are surprisingly cheap, actually.
I agree, they are signifigantly cheaper than regular Imperial Guard Ogryns for example, and would make for amazing standins if you had a heavily mechanized army, with a techpriest too perhaps.
The only Marine kits still missing from Betrayal are the Palatine Guard for the Emperor's Children, at least I think that's what their name is.
Basically 5 "Honour Guard" style units, master swordsmen of the legion with Charnabal Sabres by default, upgradable to power weapons, power lances, jump packs and sonic shreakers. They're distinct enough to warrant their own kit, especially since the sabre doesn't exist yet as far as I know, or an infantry lance.
They're one of the units that most appealed to me in the book when I read it, and probably the only "legion" specific unit I'd have an interest in getting purely for a modeling standpoint, if they're a decent sculpt, as there's zero interest in doing HH armies, even from myself, locally.
Also, Did anyone notice the "Warhammer 40k Expansion" at the bottom right of the cover? Perhaps this is GW putting stronger emphasis on "Forgeworld is used for normal games." Or, I just never noticed it before.
Sasori they have already stated they hope to have some available at the upcoming Open Day (of which i will be attending with a large wad of cash and no spending inhibitions lol) and a general release date would be late April at earliest, they said this a few weeks ago on their FB page..
Userarm wrote: Sasori they have already stated they hope to have some available at the upcoming Open Day (of which i will be attending with a large wad of cash and no spending inhibitions lol) and a general release date would be late April at earliest, they said this a few weeks ago on their FB page..
Argh, I want it now. I really hope it doesn't get released later than April. That would be insane.
Sasori wrote: Yessss! WE must be close to release!
Also, Did anyone notice the "Warhammer 40k Expansion" at the bottom right of the cover? Perhaps this is GW putting stronger emphasis on "Forgeworld is used for normal games." Or, I just never noticed it before.
The pics are from a WD printed 3 months ago.
The label "Warhammer 40k expansion" exists for quite some time and means the opposite of "FW is used for normal games"; with Apocalypse being the most popular expansion (and Apocalypse units NOT usable in normal games).
Kroothawk wrote: Here two WD preview pics from the upcoming Necron book, posted by a Spanish blog:
Nice looking, but I think that I can easily convert something just as cool, with existing plastic kit parts. And I don't know what this will end up costing, but I'm sure my hypothetical conversion would be WAY less in terms of $$.
I'm fairly sure that FW have lost out on some money by not revealing the event exclusive miniatures earlier.
I've put some money aside specifically for the event models, but if they're awful or I just don't like them then I'm not going to wait through the horrendous queues just to buy a small model to use up that money.
At least if they'd shown us them earlier than 3 days before the event then I could have decided that I do/do not like them and budgeted appropriately, but now I've got some money that would have been spent on Sayl the Faithless and Deathmaw, or the Renegade Psykers, but is now not.
Side question - where's the Death Korps army list these days?
The 5th Edition PDF update was taken down by FW last July or August following 6th edition's release. Emails from FW to customer inquires have been "soon". I'm expecting them between now and April 30.
They have what the event minis are on the FW website at http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Events/Forge_World_Open_Day_2013.html, an Empire Warrior Priest for Fantasy and Death Korps of Krieg Quartermaster for 40K, only shows the pic for the Quartermaster so far or i've got system issue and the model looks pretty cool.
Hopefully the newsletter will be out in a few hours to let us know everything else.
Me too. I'm pretty surprised by them, honestly. DKoK haven't really been in anything new for a few books, and Empire isn't going to be in the new Warhammer Forge book.
They sorta feel like they were extra sculpts that were sitting around the office.....
Shame, I was really hoping for a mechanicus model.
DKoK are in "The Fall of Orpheus" which is likely why they chose to do a new DKoK officer rather than another Space Marine.
They also could have done a Necron, but I think they looked at it as "DKoK officer could still be used as a Commissar by non-DKoK players for the Imperial Guard or as a fancy Inquisitor".
The Warrior Priest I think is just them going the opposite of what they did last year--which was a Chaos model.
Kanluwen wrote: DKoK are in "The Fall of Orpheus" which is likely why they chose to do a new DKoK officer rather than another Space Marine.
They also could have done a Necron, but I think they looked at it as "DKoK officer could still be used as a Commissar by non-DKoK players for the Imperial Guard or as a fancy Inquisitor".
The Warrior Priest I think is just them going the opposite of what they did last year--which was a Chaos model.
I did not realize DKoK was in Orpheus! Sweet! More reason to get the book.
Wasn't last year a werewolf? Or was that two years ago?
Very intrigued by the Mk. IV squad in the link. Dual wielding pistols and with something that looks like a cross between a grenade launcher and a psycannon. Also, crashed Thunderhawk board tile!
Meh, not impressed tbh. I had hoped that the Enforcer signalled that FW would be using the Event Only minis to put out unique interest pieces that you wouldn't find as part of the main armies(afterall, that was their justification for why the Enforcer was an event-only one-off and in no way meant they would be releasing further models for an Arbite range), but it seems we're going back to slight-variation-on-current-releases promo minis and whatever random bits and bobs they have sitting about the office.
EDIT: Hmm, well looking at the entry for Destroyer Squads, the only thing that weapon could be is the Missile Launcher with Suspensor Web and Rad Missiles, since their other upgrade options are pistols.
Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....
cincydooley wrote: Me too. I'm pretty surprised by them, honestly. DKoK haven't really been in anything new for a few books, and Empire isn't going to be in the new Warhammer Forge book.
They sorta feel like they were extra sculpts that were sitting around the office.....
Shame, I was really hoping for a mechanicus model.
Is the next warhammer FW book not Dwarves and Empire against Orcs and Goblins? I thought this is why they are bringing out character sets for all of these armies.
They should rename IA12 to "The Fall of Maelstrom808's Disposable Income For the Next Two Years." New Necron and DKoK Army lists, new Necron units with sexy models (although terrible paint jobs), and the RoB tile as a new fortification for Necrons.
cincydooley wrote: Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....
Please don't attach non wargaming images to Dakka. You need to use off site hosting if you wish to show such images.
Reds8n
Okay. So I don't feel picked on, could you go back through this entire thread and remove the other 16 non wargaming pictures that are here too? Not to mention the umpteen hundred other NONwargaming pics that exist out there! That'd be great! ;P
The way you embedded your image had it actually appearing into Dakka's gallery.
That's pretty much the only reason it was likely removed by Reds8n.
With now only a few days to go until the sold out Forge World Open Day, we’re excitedly revealing more details of what you can expect on Sunday 7th April, as well as a new video interview with a decidedly sinister theme...
Forge World Open Day, Sunday 7th April, Warhammer World, Nottingham
The Studio team are busily painting models and assembling kits to put the finishing touches to the Open Day display boards and cabinets, while in the sales office we’re making sure that we’ve got every last bit of stock we can squeeze out of our production teams. Here’s a little of what you can expect:
The Studio Area
The entirety of the Forge World and Warhammer Forge sculpting teams will be attending the Open Day, showcasing all manner of hidden secrets, work-in-progress models and recent releases; Warhammer 40,000 models of a variously armoured, flying, and walking nature along with monstrous additions to our Warhammer Forge range.
The Book Design team will also be based in the Studio area, showcasing the process by which an Imperial Armour book is created. You may even see our artists working on future book projects on their advanced cogitator devices, and our talented writers will be on hand to talk about forthcoming books. They may even be tempted into dropping a few hints about mysterious future projects; on the subject of which…
Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus on sale at the Open Day
We can now confirm that we’ll have Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus on sale at the Open Day in limited numbers. This 227-page, full colour, hardback book sees a shadowy horror arising in the dark fringes of the galaxy, and the fate of an entire Imperial sector hanging in the balance. By a strange coincidence Alan Bligh has been telling us a little of what the new book contains.
Studio Display Tables
One of the most popular parts of our Studio area is always the lavish display tables, and this year will be no exception, with three brand new tables. Even now, finishing touches are being put to a Horus Heresy Zone Mortalis table, showing a bitter struggle between World Eaters and Salamanders through the tangled corridors and landing bays of a cruiser; an Imperial Armour Volume 12-themed table, showing the sinister hosts of the Maynarkh arising to reclaim their ancient holdings; and a Cityscape display showcasing the fantastic details of these scenery tiles.
The Sales Stand
Warhammer World’s gaming hall will contain our sales stand, packed with resin kits, books, and modelling supplies. We’ll have limited numbers of all our recent releases, as well as the Forge World and Warhammer Forge 2013 Event Only Models.
Event Only Death Korps Quartermaster and Warrior Priest
The Forge World Event Only model for 2013 is a fantastic Death Korps Quartermaster, designed by Steve Whitehead. Packed with fantastic detail, such as a stylised ribcage sculpted into his flak breastplate, this multi-part resin figure is modelled with pistol drawn and extended, preparing to deliver the Emperor’s Mercy to a fallen Korpsman. The Event Only Death Korps Quartermaster is also supplied with two different weapon options, a laspistol and a plasma pistol.
The Warhammer Forge Event Only model for 2013 is an incredibly detailed Warrior Priest, designed by Edgar Skomorowski. This multi-part resin figure is depicted bearing two hammers into battle and his mail and plate are festooned with the trappings and icons of both the church of Sigmar and the Empire.
Both of the 2013 Event Only models will be available from the sales stand and as always these will be limited to one per person at the event.
Open Day Pre-Releases
In addition to our new releases, main range, and Event Only models, we’re now able to confirm that we will have two more new kits available to buy in limited numbers at the Open Day, as well as Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus.
Will Hayes has designed the Legion MkIV Destroyer Squad; units within the Legiones Astartes that are equipped with, and expert in the use of, otherwise proscribed and forbidden weaponry. Considered dishonourable by some Legions, who eschew them altogether or make little use of them, the Destroyers’ arsenal includes rad-weapons, bio-alchem munitions and the crawling horror of Phosphex. These weapons, which irrevocably taint the ground upon which they are used, are otherwise forbidden by the Emperor’s own edict. The fire-blackened and chem-scalded Destroyers are often shunned and distrusted by their Legion brothers, yet none can deny the potency of their relic-weapons.
Blake Spence has recently finished two new hollow resin Realm of Battle tiles, each measuring 2’ x 2’ (609mm x 609mm). The Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk makes for a particularly impressive centrepiece; the mightiest of Space Marine flyers brought low, shattered and hurling into the ground. It is packed with detail, as Blake has painstakingly designed the internal mechanics of this mighty gunship after inflicting terrible impact damage upon its hull.
The Realm of Battle Earthworks is a fantastic addition to any Warhammer gaming table; a hillside position fortified with two earthen bastions for artillery pieces, a forward ravellin, and an additional cavalier. The earthworks also feature sufficient space for units of supporting missile troops. Again, Blake has packed this scenery tile with detail, from cached barrels of blackpowder to discarded shields and crossbows.
Participation Games:
The Fall of Tritonus: A Fall of Orpheus-themed Zone Mortalis game. Engineer squads from the 17th Line Korps descend into the stygian depths of Hive Tritonus’ central spire to rig it for demolition; the ruin of the hive tower will cut off the Necron line of advance. Suspicious auspex contacts indicate that they may not be alone in the gloom, however...
Venitarii Maniple: An Apocalypse game of Titans and Stompas. The Reavers Vastator Magnificat and Mortis Victorem of the Legio Gryphonicus hold the Imperial line against a massive Ork Stompa mob.
The Bloody Levee: A Warhammer Fantasy game. The massed guns of Nuln's armies must hold at all costs against the savage horde of Tamurkhan, lest the city be sacrificed to the Dark Gods.
The Titan Rush: An Apocalypse game of tanks and Titans. An armoured battlegroup has rebelled against the Emperor. Between the traitors and the unsuspecting Imperial lines stand the Legion Gryphonicus Warhounds Canis Dominus and Venatoris Rex.
Open Day Painting Competition and Charity Titan Raffle
The Open Day Painting Competition will be accepting your entries from 10am to 12 midday. Each entrant may only enter once, and your entry should consist of a single Forge World or Warhammer Forge model of any kind. Note that display space may be limited, although this won’t stop you from entering.
We will also once again be holding our Charity Titan Raffle. A mere £1 per ticket will enter you into the draw to win a mighty Imperial Reaver Titan and all its weapon options, worth £691. All proceeds from the raffle will be donated to Children In Need.
Getting to the Forge World Open Day
The approach vector to Warhammer World is slightly different to usual, as tram works are currently in progress. This map indicates the best way of accessing Lenton Lane, and Warhammer World. There’s ample parking available on-site, marked in red here, and Games Workshop staff will be on hand to provide assistance between 9am and 12 midday.
We’ll see you on Sunday from 10am!
Other Events News
Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender 2013
We are still accepting reservation orders for Salute, and the Horus Heresy Weekender. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Salute reservations by Monday 15th April and Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
beautiful stuff, all of it...
the Minotaur characters are two of Forgeworld's best Marine sculpts...
this new guy looks a bit like one of the Ultramarine Honour Guard, but the spear and shield are cool...
he will make a good Iron Snakes character...
No no no, they're making a Siege Regiment update, right... RIGHT?
I think it'll be updated, considering the PDF has been removed from FW website.
Bligh's interview mentioned they're doing an Assault Brigade list in this book, along with a Necron list, and there was a screencap of the first page of the army list, specifically saying Assault Brigade, not Siege Regiment.
I can't help but feel that they won't update the Siege Regiment until the new Guard codex comes out.
I've started posting pictures from the Open Day to my blog, http://www.therenaissancegamer.co.uk - feel free to repost them, as long as the source is quoted.
Wait... wait... wait... did they confirm they are doing this MK. of armour alongside this book?
If they do I don't know if I'll be able to resist, minotaurs are one of the few loyalist chapters I want to do, my poor wallet. Though it seems like despite the 'lot's of access to mk 8' fluff, all the pictures of them show them in anything but mk 8.
Kroothawk wrote: Here two WD preview pics from the upcoming Necron book,...]
This... this is what I was afraid of.
I was super excited about IA12 but after seeing the bomber, and now this, I'm pretty fairly pessimistic about it. The first warning sign was when they released the melta wasps, which, as I said when they were released, looked like someone at Forge World was handed a unassembled Wraith and Tomb Spyder and said "make something different with this, using no new parts".
The new pylon doesn't look like a Forge World kit. it looks like a conversion made by someone with moderate talent who bought 4 Catacomb Command barges.
The new bike looks very much the same - they took a Barge, assembled it a little differently, and added a single resin piece to it: a shroud that doesn't even really fit the aesthetic (although it's probably WIP here so the groove and notches may just not be present yet).
I look to Forgeworld for exciting new models I can't get elsewhere, awesome ideas that just scream "premium aftermarket". Like these!
Unfortunately at this point it looks like GWS proper really cornered the market on that for Necrons. I really wanted this to be an awesome book, but from what i've seen now they simply aren't putting a lot of effort into the Necron stuff.
Dysartes wrote: As far as I can tell, there are some units which haven't been seen yet, but someone who has bought the book will be in a better position to comment.
Thank you very much!
I'll forward all my other questions to the other thread, so I don't clog this one up.
Great pic Dy, excited to see they have so much of the HH stuff done or nearly so. No second primarch is a bit surprising. Did they make any mention of that or any other HHSCs?
whalemusic360 wrote: Great pic Dy, excited to see they have so much of the HH stuff done or nearly so. No second primarch is a bit surprising. Did they make any mention of that or any other HHSCs?
They are probably saving Fulgrim for the Heresy weekender. He is at the casting phase apparently. And work is being done on Ferrus Manus, with a duel base to put him and Fulgrim together in.
Note the cylindrical missile magazine on each. The FW one has the blast shield to match the infantry missile launcher, and a second missile launcher
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Compel wrote: It certainly doesn't look anything like the Epic 40000 whirlwinds, which were pretty identical to the 2nd edition model.[/quote
That's why I said the Space Marine game
Dysartes wrote: That was the E:A Hunter AA vehicle, IIRC, not a Whirlwind.
You are correct. I remembered seeing the model in Space Marine (the game armies) but never seen it named until Epic came out were I seen it referred to as a Whirlwind. Thank you http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hunter#.UWF8FpPFWOc
The Hunter Multi-Launcher is an anti-aircraft support vehicle based on the Rhino chassis.[1] A variant of the Whirlwind, it is based on STC data which is much older than the more recent Whirlwind Hyperios.[3]
The Hunter is the first known dedicated anti-aircraft platform fielded by the Adeptus Astartes. Prior to the discovery of the STC for the Hunter, Space Marine forces had attempted to retrofit various designs to the Whirlwind artillery vehicle, with largely negative results.[1] Though a stable pattern of anti-aircraft Whirlwind was ultimately achieved in the Hyperios, several Chapters have continued to use the Hunter on many battlefields, including the recent Third War for Armageddon.[3]
The hunter missile used by the multi-launcher is faster and more accurate than those used by Whirlwinds, with unfolding fins to help guide it to the target, and the vehicle itself has a longer operational range. The missile is guided by a large scanning array that features an algorithmic precognitive targeter located opposite the cylindrical missile feed. STC Hunters feature one launch tube fed by a single rotary system, but some Techmarines have modified their charges with pairs launch units and a central sensor suite for improve efficiency
For the love of all that is plastic and holy, can somebody PLEASE get their hands on a copy of IA12 so they can confirm whether or not there are any other Necron stuff listed therein that is not already on display?
(last year, FW said they were working on a 'Cron superheavy... so far, no sign of anything that might fit that description).
H.B.M.C. wrote: D’ya get the feeling that FW were given an awfully short leash when it came to inventing new Necron units?
BL and FW are the only prospering branches of GW, while the main business is kept afloat only by crazy price hikes.
Now GW managers have dealt with BL and intoduced a new policy there, FW will be next.
Look, you mooks want to make some real money? Your great designs and steady stream of desired products may have made a few beans, but once you adopt our high quality management schema, the cheddar will really start to roll in. We will all be rich!
In all seriousness...this is what Edward Gibbon was talking about. I'm not one to complain, especially about something only possible in the future, but quit trying to fix something that is WORKING.
But if I had to hazard a guess...
Troll Mother: We're looking at a few months for this lady. She's still very much a WIP.
Merwyrm: Within the next month, at least, given that the showcased model was an actual cast from whatever mold they're using.
IA12 and associated products: Within the next month.
Fulgrim: Fairly soon, unless they hold off on releasing him until Ferrus is done. Report was that Fulgrim is "done" and that they're just waiting for the molds to be finished.
The rest of the Horus Heresy stuff? No clue on. It might depend if they're waiting for the next book to be ready or if they just want to slam the market at once with it.
Cheers, gents. Frankly the thing I'm most interested in is the Destroyer squad's ETA. I love those helmets and I'm in need of some running Mk. IV legs for a project.
H.B.M.C. wrote: D’ya get the feeling that FW were given an awfully short leash when it came to inventing new Necron units?
BL and FW are the only prospering branches of GW, while the main business is kept afloat only by crazy price hikes.
Now GW managers have dealt with BL and intoduced a new policy there, FW will be next.
I must have missed that policy change. What's the skinny?
There's the one which was on presale at the Open Day yesterday...and then there's going to be a variant with jump packs.
The one that was on presale at Open Day will likely be available in the next few weeks.
Well, as far as I was aware there was only the one without Jump Packs and that's what I had my eye on. Given it was one of the images used in the Open day preview I figured it might be available on the day and therefore be on track for imminent general release. Guess I'll just have to a wait a few weeks. Thanks for the info.
H.B.M.C. wrote: D’ya get the feeling that FW were given an awfully short leash when it came to inventing new Necron units?
BL and FW are the only prospering branches of GW, while the main business is kept afloat only by crazy price hikes.
Now GW managers have dealt with BL and intoduced a new policy there, FW will be next.
I must have missed that policy change. What's the skinny?
Nothing earthshatteringly huge. Horus Heresy novels are going to be announced the week before their release.
That is all. The rest of the novel lines are not going to be affected, just the Horus Heresy novels.
Trust Kan to downplay another idiotic move by GW as if it were nothing.
GW's paranoid policy of only announcing new products seconds before they are released (for fear we'll get board and wander off to stare at a wall or something... their reasoning has never had a lot of 'reason' to it) now applies to HH books. So you won't know what they are or when until they're just about to hit. Fun for the whole family.
Forge World remains the one adult in that group, perfectly capable of understanding just how you promote and preview upcoming products to generate interest (y'know, like most companies do...).
There's the one which was on presale at the Open Day yesterday...and then there's going to be a variant with jump packs.
The one that was on presale at Open Day will likely be available in the next few weeks.
Well, as far as I was aware there was only the one without Jump Packs and that's what I had my eye on. Given it was one of the images used in the Open day preview I figured it might be available on the day and therefore be on track for imminent general release. Guess I'll just have to a wait a few weeks. Thanks for the info.
There is a squad without jump paks (which were available yesterday), and a second squad with jump packs and different torso armour that were on display next to Will Hayes, shown below:
I seem to recall in older fluff that jump packs were rather uncommon during the Heresy and Great Crusade (hence why Chaos doesn't have them, and rely on semi-daemonic Raptors), but it seems an awful lot of the HH models have them.
i disagree...
there didn't seem to be any shortage of assault troops with jump packs in Space Marine (the original epic scale version), or it's rulebook art...
that was the original source of most Horus Heresy fiction...
plus, while Raptors may be Semi-demonic, they still have jump packs, so Chaos actually does have them...
either way, this is one of the coolest versions of mkIV i've ever seen...
those helms are awesome...
Fulgrim will probably be up for pre-sale at the FW and BL event. Does anyone know when Simon Egan finished working on Fulgrim? Just wondering as it seems to have taken him along time to get him finished.
Hi there,
Following its successful debut at the Forge World Open Day, the new Imperial Armour Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus book is now available to pre-order. As well as this, we’ve also got details in this week’s newsletter of the new Forge World catalogue and a reminder of our forthcoming events.
Imperial Armour Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus
On the edge of the Segmentum Tempestus, the Orpheus Sector has stood as a bulwark against the outer darkness for millennia. Forged in war and preserved by the blood of the Imperium’s soldiers, it has stood against the privations of the Orks from without and the treachery of the Ruinous Powers from within, but now a new terror has risen that is beyond anything it has faced before.
From their cold tombs beneath forbidden and dead worlds rise the Necrons of the ancient Maynarkh Dynasty. Tainted by madness and abominable hunger, undying warrior-legions and the fearsome war engines of a lost age strike without warning, seeking to exterminate the humans that now infest their former domains. Hundreds of worlds have fallen already, billions lie dead, and the fate of the sector hangs in the balance, but the Imperium has not been slow to react. The Space Marines of the Minotaurs Chapter and the relentless armies of the Death Korps of Krieg stand ready to defend the sector, but can even these forces hold before the nightmare that has come to Orpheus?
Imperial Armour Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus, written by Alan Bligh, is a mighty 232-page, full colour tome, packed with lavish maps, colour profiles and photographs. The horrors of the Orphean War are recounted in detail, alongside a new variant Necron army list – the Dark Harvest – which represents the tainted Maynarkh Dynasty, and full rules for new Necron units such as the Night Shroud Bomber, the Canoptek Acanthrites and the mighty Tomb Citadel.
The book also contains a new Death Korps of Krieg army list – the Assault Brigade – updated background, units and characters for the Minotaurs Space Marine Chapter, as well as rules for numerous Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine units such as the Spartan, the Predator Infernus and the Damocles Rhino.
Imperial Armour Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus is available to pre-order now, for despatch from Friday 3rd May. Our YouTube channel contains an interview with Alan Bligh, in which he discusses the contents of the new book. We will also have copies available on our sales stands at Salute in London and AdeptiCon in Chicago.
New Forge World Catalogue Now Available The 2013 Forge World catalogue is now ready to be sent out. So if you’d like a free copy, please send your name and postal address in an e-mail entitled ‘2013 Catalogue Request’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. A pdf version of the catalogue is also available here.
Forge World Events News
Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender 2013 We are still accepting reservation orders for Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Salute reservations by Monday 15th April and Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
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I was really hoping the Tesseract Ark was going to be up for preorder at the same time, Grr. I wanted to nab a book, the Ark, and the Bomber in one go. Guess I'll just have to settle for the book and the bomber for now.
Some close up photos of the new necrons and a couple of the rapier varients in the latest FW catalogue. Nothing really that hasnt been seen in the open day photos but its a nice browse if somewhat absent of prices.
Did notice the fact that Outriders for HH will be available singley aswell as in threes by their listings
Dark Harvest necron list..sounds like a return of the oldcrons style.
Also there was a rumor on Advanced Tau Tactica, that a update for IA:3 Taros Campiagn (with a full update of all the Tau units) may be going to the printers soon, as a member ha a Q&A with the forgeworld people at the show.
Yodhrin wrote: On the plus side, my Thallaxii shipped this morning, so barring any Royal Mail incompetence, I should have them before the end of the week
Got mine on Sunday, courtesy of a friend who attended the Open Day. 2 out of 3 were nigh-perfect casts and the third was fine after a clean-up. Pity there's only the basic lightning guns included though.
Looks like they are selling three different kind of Sentry Pylons, each with a different weapon. But the new HQ's and different troops don't have new models.. Weird, is that something they do often?
Yodhrin wrote: I'm not sold on this book yet tbh, I'll need to see what the skinny is on the new DKoK army list first.
Me neither, I am really going to save these 48GBP and use it to buy models instead.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Trust Kan to downplay another idiotic move by GW as if it were nothing.
GW's paranoid policy of only announcing new products seconds before they are released (for fear we'll get board and wander off to stare at a wall or something... their reasoning has never had a lot of 'reason' to it) now applies to HH books. So you won't know what they are or when until they're just about to hit. Fun for the whole family.
Interesting...
I imagine it's 'to prevent evil 3rd parters pirating 'bitz' from HH book descriptions before GW/forgeworld can produce them.
I wonder if it will affect sales of the books though, or favorable reviews getting word of mouth out in time for the book to still be on the shelves of bookshops before they hit the clearance or get returned. The books have been drawing in new gamers from what I understand or reigniting interest in previous gamers to come back. Also we've seen BL authors become New York Times bestsellers.
cincydooley wrote: Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....
Melcavuk wrote: Rad Missile Launcher with suspension web \I believe
Wow, I was impressed with the models before. Now I simply must have them ASAP. The MKIV Legion Assault armor plus the new helmets and jump pack and a missile launcher is too good to pass up. They didn't happen to mention a release date did they? That would be asking too much I suppose.
cincydooley wrote: Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....
They can take jump packs? I missed that!
I've posted a pic of the jump pack version of the unit (which has different torsos) earlier in this thread, IdentifyZero - according to Will Hayes they will be out later this year.
And he also confirmed the heavy weapon was the Missile Launcher with Rad Missiles and Suspensor Web.
cincydooley wrote: Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....
They can take jump packs? I missed that!
I've posted a pic of the jump pack version of the unit (which has different torsos) earlier in this thread, IdentifyZero - according to Will Hayes they will be out later this year.
And he also confirmed the heavy weapon was the Missile Launcher with Rad Missiles and Suspensor Web.
So does the non-jump pack version have the regular MKIV torso opposed to the up-armored and studded version the Assault/Jump Pack version gets? That seems to be the standard difference for the Legion MKIV Armour variants. I also read that there were limited numbers of Destroyer Squads without jump packs for sale at the event correct? So hopefully there is a chance that those attending Adepticon may be able to get their hands on some of the Destroyer Squads and more importantly the variant helmet and Rad Missile Launcher that make up the squad? I'll be calling FW today to check on that myself. I'm so excited I can barely contain it.
anonymous source over at faeit212 wrote:FW Projects:
1) HH: Massacre just after Orpheus, September.
Then Warhammer Fantasy (Lustria) campaign and dino releases end 2013, early 2014.
Expect HH: (Massacre 2) middle 2014 and HH: (Prospero) late 2014 / early 2015.
2) Miniatures:
HH sell really well!
Specific HH chapter Contemptors, special characters and dioramas with book releases, as expected.
New Jetbike design (less sleek more angles).
Legion Stormblade soon.
Ravenguard specific Stormraven variant.
As with Thallax, there will be small units and characters for Custodes and Sisters of Silence after Prospero release.
Also, Malcador and Garro mini diorama in 2014, Russ and Johnson duel in 2015.
I especially like the part that Fantasy production is not on hold and that FW will release a Lustria campaign book with Dinos soon
Yeah, that Lustria thing is a bit left-field - I'm pretty sure they were still working on the O&G/Dwarf/Empire one (Battle for Blackfire Pass? I forget).
Hmn, I wonder how much the Lustria campaign will be based off of the old Lustria ruleset from a couple of years ago. The prospect of seeing the zombie pirates and the Norse of Skeggi making a return makes me pretty chirpy though. =)
cincydooley wrote: Destroyers are in the HH Betrayal book. They're dual pistol wielding psycopaths that test out new weaponry, namely the Rad Missle Launcher. They can also take jump packs with those missle launchers....
They can take jump packs? I missed that!
I've posted a pic of the jump pack version of the unit (which has different torsos) earlier in this thread, IdentifyZero - according to Will Hayes they will be out later this year.
And he also confirmed the heavy weapon was the Missile Launcher with Rad Missiles and Suspensor Web.
Yeah dude! I saw that picture and I have to admit, something in my pants stirred. I was so amazed I missed these guys can take jump packs! It's like, how the hell did I skim over that unit option! That makes destroyers 10x cooler
Even happier I sold all of my old pre-heresy armor and gear almost because wow just wow, the new releases are getting harder and harder to resist.
H.B.M.C. wrote: D’ya get the feeling that FW were given an awfully short leash when it came to inventing new Necron units?
BL and FW are the only prospering branches of GW, while the main business is kept afloat only by crazy price hikes.
Now GW managers have dealt with BL and intoduced a new policy there, FW will be next.
What did they do to BL?
The switch to hardback, all the limited edition and the huge focus on novellas and digital only short stories have killed a lot of interest for a lot of us over in the BL rumours thread.
Moopy wrote: There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.
Really, there's nothing wrong with switching to a three-format system halfway through the series, which results in anyone who wants to keep getting the same paperbacks they were before waiting nine-sodding-months after the actual release date? There was nothing preventing them from continuing with the same format and release schedule as before, then releasing the hardback versions of the books as "collector edition hardbacks", other than naked greed of course.
Moopy wrote: There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.
Really, there's nothing wrong with switching to a three-format system halfway through the series, which results in anyone who wants to keep getting the same paperbacks they were before waiting nine-sodding-months after the actual release date? There was nothing preventing them from continuing with the same format and release schedule as before, then releasing the hardback versions of the books as "collector edition hardbacks", other than naked greed of course.
McNinja wrote: Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.
Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.
Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...
They learned the first time they did a limited edition novella, charged 10x more than a normal book and it sold out instantly; that 40k fans are crazy, like fans of anything else.
If people didn't buy into it, they wouldn't do it.
Lots of rich fat blokes out there buying up $80 100 page books !
McNinja wrote: Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.
Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.
Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...
They learned the first time they did a limited edition novella, charged 10x more than a normal book and it sold out instantly; that 40k fans are crazy, like fans of anything else.
If people didn't buy into it, they wouldn't do it.
Lots of rich fat blokes out there buying up $80 100 page books !
Or it could be like the fliers supplement or (probably) tau and they are selling out because they are making only a handful of them.
McNinja wrote: Hardback simply gives them a reason to charge more. In reality, where normal people live, Hardback is only a few dollars more.
Not a 10+ dollar increase across the board. Or 15, in the case of 40k codices.
Of course, hardback does make it a premium product... obviously...
They learned the first time they did a limited edition novella, charged 10x more than a normal book and it sold out instantly; that 40k fans are crazy, like fans of anything else.
If people didn't buy into it, they wouldn't do it.
Lots of rich fat blokes out there buying up $80 100 page books !
Or it could be like the fliers supplement or (probably) tau and they are selling out because they are making only a handful of them.
Oh I was referring to Black Library. GW can kiss my butt when it comes to the new codex costs, in Canada it costs me as much as a FW book for a codex.
Moopy wrote: There's nothing wrong with the switch to hardback.
Really, there's nothing wrong with switching to a three-format system halfway through the series, which results in anyone who wants to keep getting the same paperbacks they were before waiting nine-sodding-months after the actual release date? There was nothing preventing them from continuing with the same format and release schedule as before, then releasing the hardback versions of the books as "collector edition hardbacks", other than naked greed of course.
First world problems. I like my books in HC, and I'm glad they're switching over. Granted I'm not happy to rebuy the old books to get HC versions, but that's up to me.
@ H.B.M.C. I agree with that part. 2 weeks notices is horribles.
anonymous source over at faeit212 wrote:FW Projects:
1) HH: Massacre just after Orpheus, September.
Then Warhammer Fantasy (Lustria) campaign and dino releases end 2013, early 2014.
Expect HH: (Massacre 2) middle 2014 and HH: (Prospero) late 2014 / early 2015.
2) Miniatures:
HH sell really well!
Specific HH chapter Contemptors, special characters and dioramas with book releases, as expected.
New Jetbike design (less sleek more angles).
Legion Stormblade soon.
Ravenguard specific Stormraven variant.
As with Thallax, there will be small units and characters for Custodes and Sisters of Silence after Prospero release.
Also, Malcador and Garro mini diorama in 2014, Russ and Johnson duel in 2015.
I especially like the part that Fantasy production is not on hold and that FW will release a Lustria campaign book with Dinos soon
Except according to all the designers I spoke to at the open day the next book is going to be Blackfire Pass, which is on hold due to resources being diverted to HH.
Steve Whitehead was quite insistent on the matter, as he was rather put out that his empire command kit was being released long before the book they were made for, so I'm calling BS on 'Lustria' especially given the abundance of new O&G, empire and Dwarf models, and the complete absense of any Lizardmen models whatsoever either in the past or in previews for FW.
Goliath wrote: Except according to all the designers I spoke to at the open day the next book is going to be Blackfire Pass, which is on hold due to resources being diverted to HH.
Steve Whitehead was quite insistent on the matter, as he was rather put out that his empire command kit was being released long before the book they were made for, so I'm calling BS on 'Lustria' especially given the abundance of new O&G, empire and Dwarf models, and the complete absense of any Lizardmen models whatsoever either in the past or in previews for FW.
I thought the emote made it clear that I think all this is poorly made up. Maybe except HH is selling well
Hi there, This is turning out to be a great week for Forge World. Firstly, we held yet another well-received Open Day at the weekend here at GWHQ. Then, hot on its heels, was our announcement that the new Imperial Armour Volume 12: The Fall of Orpheus is now available to pre-order.
So where can we go from there? Well, in today’s newsletter we’ve got details of a fantastic new Realm of Battle scenery tile and not one, not two, but three new Horus Heresy kits, which are all available to pre-order now, as well as news about the new Forge World 2013 catalogue and a couple of upcoming events. Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk
Debuted at last weekend's Forge World Open Day, the latest addition to our ever-expanding scenery range is the Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk board. This board represents one of the mightiest of Space Marine flyers brought low; shattered and hurled to the ground by enemy gunfire. Created by Blake Spence, it has been painstakingly designed to show the internal structure of this legendary gunship after terrible damage has been inflicted upon its hull.
This highly detailed new scenery tile makes a great centrepiece for your gaming table, a fantastic diorama base for your collection or, when combined with other Realm of Battle boards, allows you to fight some great rescue or last stand scenarios. The Realm of Battle Crashed Thunderhawk measures 2' x 2' (609mm x 609mm) and is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May. Legion MkIV Destroyer Squad
Considered dishonourable by some Legions, who eschew them altogether or make little use of them, the arsenal of a Destroyer squad includes rad-weapons, bio-alchem munitions and the crawling horror of phosphex. These hellish devices, which irrevocably taint the ground upon which they are used, have been forbidden by the Emperor’s own edict, and with good reason. For during the long nightmare of the Age of Strife, many life-sustaining colony worlds were rendered barren by their use, becoming uninhabitable charnel houses where once these verdant planets held thriving civilisations.
It is little wonder therefore that those who wield these potent weapons of destruction are heavily protected from their effects – the fire-blackened and chem-scalded Destroyers being clad in modified and reinforced suits of power armour, essential to withstand the deadly rad-taint of their own weaponry. Often shunned and distrusted by their Legion brothers, the Destroyers are deemed a necessary evil at best during these violent times, yet none can deny the potency of their relic-weapons.
Will Hayes has designed the Legion MkIV Destroyer Squad, comprising a set of five multi-part resin models with five pairs of Tigrus pattern bolt pistols, as well as three phosphex bombs and an optional rad-missile launcher. Rules for using a Destroyer Squad as part of a Space Marine Legion force can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal, and this highly detailed kit is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May.
Legion Rapier Graviton Cannon and Quad Heavy Bolter
The Rapier armoured carrier is a semi-automated weapons carriage, equipped with on-board targeting systems and powerful generators. It is designed to mount support weaponry too large and cumbersome for even the superhuman strength of a Space Marine to carry, and the Rapier’s relatively small size makes it an ideal support weapon both in attack and defence.
The most common armaments of the Rapier are quad heavy bolters or laser destroyer arrays for anti-personnel and anti-armour roles, while Quad Launcher are favoured for siege warfare. On occasion, a Legion’s Techmarines will also use a Rapier carrier as a mount for more exotic weaponry such as a Graviton cannon.
Stuart Williamson has designed two new Rapier weapons systems. The Legion Rapier Graviton Cannon and Legion Rapier Quad Heavy Bolter are both detailed multi-part resin models, and each armoured carrier is accompanied by two Space Marine crew in MkIII power armour. Rules for using a Rapier Weapons Battery as part of a Space Marine Legion force can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal, and both these kits are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May.
New Forge World Catalogue Now Available The Forge World 2013 catalogue is now being sent out. So if you’d like a free copy, please send your name and postal address in an e-mail entitled ‘2013 Catalogue Request’ to forgeworld@gwplc.com. A pdf version of the catalogue is also available here.
Forge World Events News Forge World Open Day Review Thanks to everyone who came to see us on Sunday 7th April for the Forge World Open Day. We hope you had a great time, and if you couldn’t make it but want to join us at next year’s event, this is a little of what you can expect.
Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender 2013 We are still accepting reservation orders for Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the event. As with all our UK shows, Salute and the Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve and for which event, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Salute reservations by Monday 15th April and Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
Thanks, Ead Brown Customer Service Manager Forge World
Comparative amount of resin, £309 price hike... Ok I can see the difference in content, but it shows just how much of a hike FW's putting on their Thunderhawks (even if the board is priced in line with comparable products).
You ever tried un-crashing a thunderhawk? Takes at least four trained professionals working for over three weeks. You are getting a substantial discount here.
I highly doubt it. Chances are each mark will have their own type of squad/bike instead. FW seem to be enjoying their maximus armour right now though, guess they sell the best?
Wyrmalla wrote: Comparative amount of resin, £309 price hike... Ok I can see the difference in content, but it shows just how much of a hike FW's putting on their Thunderhawks (even if the board is priced in line with comparable products).
You realize the RoB board one is hollow and can effectively be a one piece mould, right?
Wyrmalla wrote: Comparative amount of resin, £309 price hike... Ok I can see the difference in content, but it shows just how much of a hike FW's putting on their Thunderhawks (even if the board is priced in line with comparable products).
You realize the RoB board one is hollow and can effectively be a one piece mould, right?
It also doesn't work quite as well as a Thunderhawk should you want to use one in a game.
You know I just remembered something that one of the painters told me when I was speaking to him at the open day (I don't know his name, he was in the corner on the right as you went into the design area). Because some of the original legion colours are difficult to mix, he asked his boss (again, don't know a name) about whether it woudl be possible to get a set of FW paints to go with the weathering powders, and was told that it was possible, so he's pushing quite hard for it. It woudl basically be paints formulated to match the weirder colours used by the various factions covered by FW, so the green used by Luna Wolves and various others.
Don't know if this has already been said, but someone's blog reminded me of how hard it is to mix the colour for Sons of Horus, and therefore this.
Goliath wrote: You know I just remembered something that one of the painters told me when I was speaking to him at the open day (I don't know his name, he was in the corner on the right as you went into the design area).
Because some of the original legion colours are difficult to mix, he asked his boss (again, don't know a name) about whether it woudl be possible to get a set of FW paints to go with the weathering powders, and was told that it was possible, so he's pushing quite hard for it. It woudl basically be paints formulated to match the weirder colours used by the various factions covered by FW, so the green used by Luna Wolves and various others.
Don't know if this has already been said, but someone's blog reminded me of how hard it is to mix the colour for Sons of Horus, and therefore this.
Would not be the first time.
A number of the new paint line have their origins in just such a thing. Straken and Elysian Green off the top of my head, for example, were intended to go quite well with individuals wanting to match the Taros Campaign colors for the Elysians.
For anyone interested, here is one of the FW day scenarios. I am trying to get a hold of all of the ones mentioned in the info letter such as
Participation Games:
The Fall of Tritonus: A Fall of Orpheus-themed Zone Mortalis game. Engineer squads from the 17th Line Korps descend into the stygian depths of Hive Tritonus’ central spire to rig it for demolition; the ruin of the hive tower will cut off the Necron line of advance. Suspicious auspex contacts indicate that they may not be alone in the gloom, however...
Venitarii Maniple: An Apocalypse game of Titans and Stompas. The Reavers Vastator Magnificat and Mortis Victorem of the Legio Gryphonicus hold the Imperial line against a massive Ork Stompa mob.
The Bloody Levee: A Warhammer Fantasy game. The massed guns of Nuln's armies must hold at all costs against the savage horde of Tamurkhan, lest the city be sacrificed to the Dark Gods.
The Titan Rush: An Apocalypse game of tanks and Titans. An armoured battlegroup has rebelled against the Emperor. Between the traitors and the unsuspecting Imperial lines stand the Legion Gryphonicus Warhounds Canis Dominus and Venatoris Rex.
Hi there,
This week we turn our attention back to the Necrons of the sinister Maynarkh Dynasty, with two fantastic new kits that are now available to pre-order. It’s also a weekend packed with events, too, as Forge World is in both Chicago, IL, for AdeptiCon, and London for Salute; read on to find out details of which exciting pre-releases and new kits will be available at each show.
Necron Tesseract Ark
The Tesseract Ark is one of the most powerful Necron war machines encountered on the battlefields of the 41st Millennium, and so sophisticated is its design, it can be manufactured only by the most adept of Crypteks. Built around a contained singularity torn from the heart of a dying star, in battle the Tesseract Ark can siphon the destructive energies of this captured star-fragment and unleash them in a variety of terrible ways. The armoured bulk of the Tesseract Ark is also surrounded by a gravitic distortion effect, a potent defensive mechanism.
The Tesseract Ark, designed by Daren Parrwood, is a complete multi-part resin and plastic kit, packed with detail. The forward armour and arcane projector array of its singularity chamber give it a unique profile, making a fantastic and menacing centrepiece for a Necron army.
Necron Sentry Pylons
The stasis-tombs of the Necrons are vast and shadowy edifices, and many an Imperial Explorator expedition has made planetfall on a dead world only to vanish without trace; slain at the hands of the unliving guardian-constructs that watch over their slumbering masters.
Among these defences are automated weapons platforms of strange design known as Pylons. Some of these are huge, cyclopean constructs, but Imperial tactical logisticians have codified smaller, tactical variants as Sentry Pylons. These powerful devices are arcs of glittering metal equipped with a weapons array that can strike down enemy aircraft at ranges so great as to be almost beyond comprehension. Some are outfitted with a gauss exterminator array, a larger and more potent example of the hellish energy weapons carried by the Necron soldiery. This can be employed against ground targets with no loss of effectiveness, scouring vast areas clear of life and cutting buildings down to little more than smoking rubble.
The Necron Sentry Pylon with Gauss Exterminator, designed by Stuart Williamson, is a multi-part resin kit that stands almost 6" (150mm) tall. The Sentry Pylon’s cruciform arc profile is packed with detail, making it a fantastic painting project as well as a potent battlefield unit.
Full rules and background for these two war machines can be found in Imperial Armour Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus, and both the Sentry Pylon and the Tesseract Ark are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 3rd May.
Forge World Events News
Salute and AdeptiCon Forge World’s intrepid team have crossed the Atlantic to Chicago for AdeptiCon from the 18th - 21st April, and we will also shortly be departing Forge World HQ to London for Salute which is being held on Saturday 20th April.
Our sales stands at both events will have copies of Imperial Armour Volume Twelve: The Fall of Orpheus available to buy in limited numbers, as well as the Forge World 2013 Event Only Warrior Priest and Death Korps Quartermaster models.
Our AdeptiCon stand will also have the recently-released Mechanicum Thallax Cohort, and the Legion Destroyer Squad, Legion Recon Squad and Legion Outrider Squadron, not to mention the sinister Necron Night Shroud Bomber.
At Salute, meanwhile, we will also have small quantities of our current pre-order kits: the Legion Rapier Graviton Cannon and Quad Heavy Bolter, and the new Necron Sentry Pylon.
All of these kits will be available to purchase in limited numbers.
Horus Heresy Weekender 2013 If you’re yet to purchase your tickets for the Horus Heresy Weekender get in quick as there’s not many left! We are also still accepting reservation orders for this event. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the show. As with all our UK shows, Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
Really wish they did a new pilot for the tesseract ark... I am tired of seing 'ol'pointy' on every ark... at least a head swap or something new would have been nice... ah well, will probably eventually get it anyways lol!
Wonder which of the 3 sentry pylon flavours will end up being best too....
@MajorTom this type of Pylon is the best if added on the top of the Tomb Citadel as any Monolith or Sentry Pylon docked have all their weapons strength increased by 1 upto a maximum of 10 (the other 2 pylons already have S10 weapons so no use for them) so very nice since its a 120" range with a now S10 AP2 Heavy 2 skyfire and interceptor weapon all for 135pts.
Personally i think the Focussed Death Ray Pylon is the best as you pick a point upto 24" away, roll 3D6 then extend a line in any direction, any unit under the line is hit TWICE as many times as models under the line with a S10 AP1 weapon, yes you read correctly so a tank hit would suffer 2 S10 hits or if you hit 4 models in a unit it does 8 hits instead, does cost an extra 25pts for this awesomeness but worth every point in my opinion.
For 46 GBP/70 USD, the Sentry Pilon is way overpriced. I could easily create a nearly identical one from leftover bits and parts I have from my existing (not that huge) Necron army.
catharsix wrote: For 46 GBP/70 USD, the Sentry Pilon is way overpriced. I could easily create a nearly identical one from leftover bits and parts I have from my existing (not that huge) Necron army.
Awesome. Now do it and produce it for others. Then you can set the price. Really, what are you waiting for?
More very lazy Necron kitbashes repacked as premium kits.
The Tesseract one isn't too shabby, but as with every other Necron release in IA12 it looks like they put absolute minimal work into it.
The Pylon again follows the unfortunate design strategy of "take some Necron kits and make something different out of them, using no new parts if possible" which gave us the Melta Wasps.
Unfortunately, with the sole exception of the Tomb Stalker, it's becoming increasingly apparent that GWS has cornered the market on good Necrons. What a downer - I had such high hopes for IA12.
Ouze wrote: More very lazy Necron kitbashes repacked as premium kits.
The Tesseract one isn't too shabby, but as with every other Necron release in IA12 it looks like they put absolute minimal work into it.
The Pylon again follows the unfortunate design strategy of "take some Necron kits and make something different out of them, using no new parts if possible" which gave us the Melta Wasps.
Unfortunately, with the sole exception of the Tomb Stalker, it's becoming increasingly apparent that GWS has cornered the market on good Necrons. What a downer - I had such high hopes for IA12.
You could say the same for most of the SM vehicle range. How many "minimal work" designs are there now based solely on the Rhino chassis? The Razorback with its plug and play LR weapon mount is a perfect example....
With these Necron releases where is the problem.... is it with the actual vehicle design thats shown or the idea of whats been presented in the list? The Tesseract is an "Ark" so it would stand to reason it would share some aspects with the plastic kit. I think the designer did a great job adapting the original extended galleon-bus into a more spherical single seat platform. As for the pylon there is enough there to set it apart from its big brother and equally enough similarity to make it fit in with the rest of the Necron range and the basic pylon design.
But as I already said maybe its not the vehicles themselves maybe people were expecting something a bit more "unbalanced awesome"....
Tannhauser42 wrote: Either they can't really come up with good, original Necron designs, or they're limited to only creating conversions for current kits.
Darren Parwood specifically stated that for this book they were aiming in trying to create conversion kits rather than entire new kits, as you can make a larger more impressive model using some resin + a sprue from a plastic vehicle for the same price as a less impressive purely resin model.
Pfff, I have only two problems with these models.
1. The Tesseract Ark should be named Tesseract BARGE, because it shares the model with the Ann Barge and CC-Barge and NOT with the Ghost Ark or Doomsday Ark.
I really don't get why they screwed it up like this.
2. I can get a CCB for 20 Euro from internet-stores.
The Tesseract Arc is 63 Euro.
So am I really paying 43 Euro more for some little piece of plastic in the front? That is complete bs.
I'll just buy three Barges and grab a random plate of plastic for the three Euro I have left.
Kangodo wrote: Pfff, I have only two problems with these models.
1. The Tesseract Ark should be named Tesseract BARGE, because it shares the model with the Ann Barge and CC-Barge and NOT with the Ghost Ark or Doomsday Ark.
I really don't get why they screwed it up like this.
2. So am I really paying 43 Euro more for some little piece of plastic in the front? That is complete bs.
Kangodo wrote: Pfff, I have only two problems with these models.
1. The Tesseract Ark should be named Tesseract BARGE, because it shares the model with the Ann Barge and CC-Barge and NOT with the Ghost Ark or Doomsday Ark.
I really don't get why they screwed it up like this.
2. So am I really paying 43 Euro more for some little piece of plastic in the front? That is complete bs.
Kangodo wrote: 2. I can get a CCB for 20 Euro from internet-stores.
The Tesseract Arc is 63 Euro.
So am I really paying 43 Euro more for some little piece of plastic in the front? That is complete bs.
I'll just buy three Barges and grab a random plate of plastic for the three Euro I have left.
Feel free to put your money where your mouth is and show how you create something better than the FW model for less money. I'm sure we'll all be thrilled to see you try.
2. You'd be right to point the material out if it was solid gold, because that would explain the price. But that wasn't the point of my 'complaint'.
Agamemnon2 wrote: Feel free to put your money where your mouth is and show how you create something better than the FW model for less money. I'm sure we'll all be thrilled to see you try.
Where the hell did I say that I would do that? It doesn't need to look better, it just has to cost 42 euro's less and that's not hard to achieve. I could take a piece of cardbox and stick it there and I would get more quality for my money.
One small 'RESIN' (before someone starts to QQ about it) does not justify the 43 Euro you'll be paying over a normal Barge.
I will say at the Forge World Open Day the Tesseract Ark only cost £40 (of which i ordered 2, thank god for that) and not the £55 they are currently asking for.
Hekal Xul wrote: You could say the same for most of the SM vehicle range. How many "minimal work" designs are there now based solely on the Rhino chassis?
I could, but it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. For one, the Space Marine range is enormous, and has many things unique to it. The Necron range is much more limited, and nearly every item in it is a retread of a pre-existing kit.
Hekal Xul wrote: But as I already said maybe its not the vehicles themselves maybe people were expecting something a bit more "unbalanced awesome"....
Well, I guess we could argue with the plain, unambiguous words I posted, or maybe make up some dumb strawman you want to pretend I said to whale on instead. Whatever floats your boat.
Here's a more apples-to-apples comparison of what I mean:
For Imperial Armour 8, there were 3 factions: Orks, Space Marines, and Elysians.
The Elysians got a completely new unit: the Tauros Venator, a Valkrie troop compartment, and a significantly revamped unit, the Elysian Drop Sentinel.
The Space Marines got a new HQ unit, the Raven Guard guy, raven guard transfer sheets, a thunderhawk (obviously, it's just new doors), rhino & land raider doors and a conversion kit.
The Orks got a new HQ unit (Mek Buzzgob), the Chinork Warkopta, new Mega-Dread, new Grot Tanks, a new infantry weapon set, a significantly revamped unit (the Ork Stompa head\arms\belly gun), some totally new weapons (Lifta-Droppa on a wagon), and a kommando konvershun kit.
So. Some of those things (land raider doors, raven guard transfers) are minor. Some of them are conversions for for pre-existing kits (Kommandos, Raven Guard heads & weapons). But a lot of them - most of them - are totally new sculpts that didn't exist in any way before. Major stuff, like the Grot Tanks, Tauros, Buzzgob, Warkopta. I daresay this Necron release has not one single kit that is 100% a ground up sculpt the way that every other faction got in this book; and that is my beef. Even the conversion kits are way different - the Raven Guard one uses 50% new parts, new guns, heads, bolters, bling... whereas the Melta Wasps & new Pylons can literally be made with off the shelf GWS kits.
I feel like they really skimped on it. Maybe they're just too busy with all that Horus Heresy stuff.
But, you know, they dribbled out stuff for a few months after IA8 came out; it's certainly possible, likely even, there should be a new HQ unit at the least. Maybe a cryptek head or staff bitz pack. Something new, FFS.
The only kit I feel like they even made an effort on was the Tesseract Ark, and hell, that's half of another kit. But I'm willing to consider that equivalent to re-using the rhino or chimera or russ chassis as a base for another kit, so that's fair.
Somebody else already said it, but Forge World has steadily been moving away from making huge all resin kits to making as much use of GW's own plastic kits as they can.
I don't know if they're moving away from it. They've always done conversion kit stuff like the old Predators kits and the Nobs on bikes. Even the Storm Eagle is a conversion kit. The big all-resin stuff like the Proteus or Caestus are relatively recent and the new sentry pylon is all resin. That's new and sort of a big-ish model.
They've always had conversions kits, as they're often an easier way to create a vehicle variant or just a distinctive appearance. It also helps to maintain the design aesthetic with the new models in an army. However, I would like it if they would release more of the conversion kits separately (would love to have the MKIV SM Bikes, but would rather buy the resin bit separately and just find cheap bikes elsewhere).
The Pylon is a bit more expensive than I had planned. I had planed to buy at least a full battery of 3, but damn, I was hoping it would be in the 30 pound range.
The Ark is fine, because you only need one of those.
It doesn't need to look better, it just has to cost 42 euro's less and that's not hard to achieve.
I could take a piece of cardbox and stick it there and I would get more quality for my money.
If you want to play Ghetto 40k, that's of course entirely your prerogative
Ouze wrote: More very lazy Necron kitbashes repacked as premium kits.
Again I come back to the notion that this is less a failure of design and more the results of a very short leash. I really do feel as if FW have been held back here. I just can't fathom why.
Kanluwen wrote: Somebody else already said it, but Forge World has steadily been moving away from making huge all resin kits to making as much use of GW's own plastic kits as they can.
Kanluwen wrote: Somebody else already said it, but Forge World has steadily been moving away from making huge all resin kits to making as much use of GW's own plastic kits as they can.
Agamemnon2 wrote: If you want to play Ghetto 40k, that's of course entirely your prerogative
Sorry for giving my opinion on a forum, I always thought that's what a forum was for.
But apparently I cannot give my opinion without someone attacking me for it.
catharsix wrote: For 46 GBP/70 USD, the Sentry Pilon is way overpriced. I could easily create a nearly identical one from leftover bits and parts I have from my existing (not that huge) Necron army.
Awesome. Now do it and produce it for others. Then you can set the price. Really, what are you waiting for?
I have no desire to do conversions on demand. However, I think it hardly merits snarky trolling to suggest that a company that markets prohibitively expensive "boutique" products at least offer products that are superior to what an amateur could produce with existing, MUCH CHEAPER components.
catharsix wrote: For 46 GBP/70 USD, the Sentry Pilon is way overpriced. I could easily create a nearly identical one from leftover bits and parts I have from my existing (not that huge) Necron army.
Awesome. Now do it and produce it for others. Then you can set the price. Really, what are you waiting for?
I have no desire to do conversions on demand. However, I think it hardly merits snarky trolling to suggest that a company that markets prohibitively expensive "boutique" products at least offer products that are superior to what an amateur could produce with existing, MUCH CHEAPER components.
The thing is, they do. The vast majority of hobbyists are simply not capable of doing conversions or scratchbuilds with the same level of detail and design quality that FW put out; if you're one of the few who are, great for you, but most of us either pay the asking price, or we make do with a bodge-job that doesn't look anywhere near as cool.
catharsix wrote: For 46 GBP/70 USD, the Sentry Pilon is way overpriced. I could easily create a nearly identical one from leftover bits and parts I have from my existing (not that huge) Necron army.
Awesome. Now do it and produce it for others. Then you can set the price. Really, what are you waiting for?
I have no desire to do conversions on demand. However, I think it hardly merits snarky trolling to suggest that a company that markets prohibitively expensive "boutique" products at least offer products that are superior to what an amateur could produce with existing, MUCH CHEAPER components.
The thing is, they do. The vast majority of hobbyists are simply not capable of doing conversions or scratchbuilds with the same level of detail and design quality that FW put out; if you're one of the few who are, great for you, but most of us either pay the asking price, or we make do with a bodge-job that doesn't look anywhere near as cool.
I suppose that's fair enough. It just seems to me that, since FW are supposedly the "boutique" quality stuff (and the uniformly high-quality HH stuff is a great example), and to justify the rather steep price of much of their product, they could and should produce kits not only better than what the average hobbyist could produce, but also superior to what even more advanced hobbyists could produce.
well, i think they did a great job on both the new bomber, and the new ark...
seems like a pretty substantial conversion kit, and you get all the extras of the Necron plastics to play with...
Forgeworld rarely lets me down as far as quality, and varience from the stock kits...
maybe my expectations are not too high, but i have been happy with everypiece i've ever bought from Forgeworld...
to me, they blow GW's stock kits out of the water...
Kangodo wrote: 2. I can get a CCB for 20 Euro from internet-stores.
The Tesseract Arc is 63 Euro.
So am I really paying 43 Euro more for some little piece of plastic in the front? That is complete bs.
I'll just buy three Barges and grab a random plate of plastic for the three Euro I have left.
Nope, you're not paying 43 Euros just for a piece of plastic on the front. Unfortunately, the resin and plastic are so close together in terms of colour that they do give that impression.
Hopefully this picture from the Open Day might make it a bit clearer - at a minimum, you're looking at the front plate(s), the weaponry & mounts and the engine blocks as being resin. There may be other parts as well, but they're all I can reliably identify at the moment.
Looking at the Forge World pictures, I'd hazard a guess that the armour plates to either side of the Necron pilot are resin as well.
Ouze wrote: More very lazy Necron kitbashes repacked as premium kits.
Again I come back to the notion that this is less a failure of design and more the results of a very short leash. I really do feel as if FW have been held back here. I just can't fathom why.
Yeah, feels about right, and it's a shame, because I don't generally complain about FW prices - I'm happy to pay when they do their magic.
Still hoping for a nice HQ or Cryptek or something, hell I'd be pretty pleased with a pack of replacement arm/stave combos for Crypteks. Which I suspect is likely in the offing, judging by previous IA releases.
catharsix wrote: For 46 GBP/70 USD, the Sentry Pilon is way overpriced. I could easily create a nearly identical one from leftover bits and parts I have from my existing (not that huge) Necron army.
Awesome. Now do it and produce it for others. Then you can set the price. Really, what are you waiting for?
I have no desire to do conversions on demand. However, I think it hardly merits snarky trolling to suggest that a company that markets prohibitively expensive "boutique" products at least offer products that are superior to what an amateur could produce with existing, MUCH CHEAPER components.
And what I am saying is to just do it, instead of just saying you could. I grow weary of people claiming they have the ability to product the exact model in an expert way, when they never have to back it up. Yet when you call them on it, they claim you are the one trolling, when it was them all along. I game with people who can and do produce models of this quality and it isn't the average gamer. It takes real care and craft and determination. Forge World is not perfect, however, this price point sounds about right with what I know about casting and reproducing expertly made product. I assure you, an amateur or average gamer can not produce a model equivalent to this and experts that create models of this ilk charge much more for the time and energy involved.
And what I am saying is to just do it, instead of just saying you could. I grow weary of people claiming they have the ability to product the exact model in an expert way, when they never have to back it up.
The sentry pylon is one of the simplest models Forge World has recently produced. Not an unreasonable claim at all that anyone with a good selection of bits couldn't replicate the basic design (using Ark ribs and unused doomsday cannons would be an interesting start). I doubt that average joe could do a Tesseract Ark though.
Forge World is not perfect, however, this price point sounds about right with what I know about casting and reproducing expertly made product. I assure you, an amateur or average gamer can not produce a model equivalent to this and experts that create models of this ilk charge much more for the time and energy involved.
-- Uh, I would hardly call Forge World's casting process "reproducing expertly" when they pretty much have a 100% failure rate of one sort or another. They are also totally wedded to a design process that is very labor and time intensive, added to their high-margins for being boutique. People are pretty willing to accept their poor quality control, high prices, and terrible rules though to get the gems that they do produce.
IA9 and IA10 were my favorites, if we're counting the Horus Heresy books separately from IA books. If not, then Horus Heresy: Betrayal is my favorite of the FW books.
kronk wrote: IA9 and IA10 were my favorites, if we're counting the Horus Heresy books separately from IA books. If not, then Horus Heresy: Betrayal is my favorite of the FW books.
My hestitation at AdeptiCon cost me the chance to buy both IA9 and HH:Betrayal :-\
IA : 12 is awesome. Was able to pick up a copy at adepticon and the book (no surprise) is gorgeous. The three army lists in the books are really cool too, especially the necron one.
My buddy picked up the Night Shroud and assembled it. Whoever it was claiming it is "simply some bits" on the front is an idiot. The resin additions are substantial and I dare say the amount of resin in the kit is twice as much as the plastic that is used. The model is fantastic. Now here's hoping the IA12 necron lords get some unique models.
Picked up some Thallax myself and I love them. Really nice looking kit that I can't wait to paint. The two convention exclusive models are also very nice, both incredibly detailed. I was actually surprised how much I liked the warrior priest, but he's fantastic. Finally, I picked up the Abbaddon and Loken kit. And wow....it's glorious. My only wish is that the diorama base extended to fill up the entire base instead of being cut short, as now I have to figure out how to do it myself.
Ouze wrote: Yeah, feels about right, and it's a shame, because I don't generally complain about FW prices - I'm happy to pay when they do their magic.
"Shame" is the right word for it. I mean, I really like the Tesseract Arc and the new bomber, but they do feel like very expensive kitbashes rather than new models, and that's a damned shame.
Ouze wrote: Still hoping for a nice HQ or Cryptek or something, hell I'd be pretty pleased with a pack of replacement arm/stave combos for Crypteks. Which I suspect is likely in the offing, judging by previous IA releases.
That would be great. A "Cryptek Upgrade Pack" that has all the various combos a Cryptek can take would be most welcome by a lot of Necron players.
"Shame" is the right word for it. I mean, I really like the Tesseract Arc and the new bomber, but they do feel like very expensive kitbashes rather than new models, and that's a damned shame.
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I promise the bomber is worth it. Once assembled, all of us wanted one. Its about 2/3 resin and maybe 1/3 plastic. It's a great, great kit.
There is a Fulgrim model! Finally! It is being released at the Horus Heresy weekender- just found out in an email from Black Library. Another primarch, yippee!
Well, as far as I know, that is the only released infomation so far. The pic was pretty much the entire email, and FW haven't said much yet. I think there was something on their facebook page, could be worth checking that out too.
Dammit!
They wait till after I spend £20 to get to the FW open day to add the Serpent Lodge member to their event only models? It's better than both of the other two!
Gah.
Goliath wrote: Dammit!
They wait till after I spend £20 to get to the FW open day to add the Serpent Lodge member to their event only models? It's better than both of the other two!
Gah.
I'm not sure it is better than the other two - though at least it is painted - but other than that I agree with the sentiment.
Well, I think they won't do any loyalist primarchs at least until Massacre has been released. At the moment there are no rules for any loyalists, so I think they will do Mortarion and Horus next.
Haighus wrote: Well, I think they won't do any loyalist primarchs at least until Massacre has been released. At the moment there are no rules for any loyalists, so I think they will do Mortarion and Horus next.
Didn't they mention something about ferrus being next because be and Fulgrim are going to make up a diorama base?
Hmm, does ring a bell. Would make sense for them to wait until Massacre to release a Ferrus model though. Wouldn't he be the first model to be released without HH rules since Betrayal was published if they did do him before Massacre?
Haighus wrote: Hmm, does ring a bell. Would make sense for them to wait until Massacre to release a Ferrus model though. Wouldn't he be the first model to be released without HH rules since Betrayal was published if they did do him before Massacre?
Well....it did take them 12 months to come out with the 2....so we may be safe on the timeframe.
whalemusic360 wrote: Is anyone going that could order a spare priest? Kinda bummed I couldn't get him at adepticon.
Not to single you out here, Whalemusic but the wording suggests that this Davinite Priest will be available at Games Day US and any other events that happen this year.
So don't get taken in by people charging obscene amounts for the model as a "Horus Heresy Weekender Only"...at least until Forge World actually outright says it is.
Haighus wrote: Hmm, does ring a bell. Would make sense for them to wait until Massacre to release a Ferrus model though. Wouldn't he be the first model to be released without HH rules since Betrayal was published if they did do him before Massacre?
As mentioned above, the next book will be released and then followed by Ferrus. I'm slightly disappointing as want a Horus for my SOH legion but oh well.
Sasori wrote: My only Problem with the Citadel, is it's so huge, lol. It pretty much makes your own deployment zone a super-fortress though!
Exactly! lol. I already have a realm of battle board so it'll fit in nicely. It'll go beautifully well with some of these products: http://www.lasercutcard.co.za/cyborg
However, the rate that these Primarchs are coming out.... they need to pick up the pace or we're looking at 10-12 years before they will all be out. If they only get 1 model each, which I thought early on FW indicated there could be a couple versions of some of the Primarchs.
Hi there,
This week we turn our attention back to the Necrons of the sinister Maynarkh Dynasty, with two more fantastic new kits available to pre-order now. We’ve also got some exciting events news, concerning the Horus Heresy Weekender.
Necron Sentry Pylons The stasis-tombs of the Necrons are vast and shadowy edifices, and many an Imperial Explorator expedition has made planetfall on a dead world only to vanish without trace; slain at the hands of the unliving guardian-constructs that watch over their slumbering masters.
Among these defences are automated weapons platforms of strange design known as Pylons. Some of these are huge, cyclopean constructs, but Imperial logisticians have codified smaller, tactical variants as Sentry Pylons. These powerful devices are arcs of glittering metal equipped with a weapons array that can strike with power so great as to be almost beyond comprehension. Some are outfitted with Heat Cannons; thermal energy weapons of extraordinary power, others bear Focussed Death Rays, which emit coruscating beams of force that can slice through ranks of infantry and armoured war machines with contemptuous ease.
Stuart Williamson has designed two more Sentry Pylons, armed with a Heat Cannon and a Focussed Death Ray respectively. Each is a multi-part resin kit that stands almost 6" (150mm) tall, and these two Sentry Pylons are available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 10th May. The Sentry Pylon’s cruciform arc profile is packed with detail, making each a fantastic painting project as well as a potent battlefield unit. These two new options can be fielded in artillery units alongside the Sentry Pylon with Gauss Exterminator. Full rules for all our new Necron kits can be found in Imperial Armour Volume Twelve – The Fall of Orpheus. Forge World Events News
Horus Heresy Weekender 2013 Exclusives and Pre-releases Unveiled
As you may have seen in a newsletter earlier this week, we’ve unveiled two of the exciting releases that we’ll have available at the Forge World and Black Library Horus Heresy Weekender. If you missed it, here’s a couple more pictures:
Fulgrim the Illuminator Primarch of the Emperor's Children
The second Primarch to receive a jaw-dropping model and the third of Forge World’s Horus Heresy Character Series is Fulgrim. Simon Egan’s incredible miniature depicts the Master of the Emperor’s Children in the thick of furious combat, and Weekender attendees will be the first in the world to get their hands on him.
Event Only Davinite Lodge Priest
A third addition to our range of 2013 Event Only models is Mark Bedford’s Davinite Serpent Lodge Priest. This detailed miniature will be available for the first time at the Horus Heresy Weekender.
Horus Heresy Weekender Reservation Orders If you’ve got your tickets for the Horus Heresy Weekender (and there's not many left if you haven’t), we are still accepting reservation orders for this event. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the show. Our sales stand will primarily be carrying the Forge World Horus Heresy range of miniatures and books, but you can reserve any Forge World or Warhammer Forge models that you wish.
As with all our UK shows, Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
If anyone going to the weekender fancies being a proper gent and grabbing me a Davinite Priest(at my expense, obviously) shoot me a PM.
As far as Fulgrim, I have to agree with SickSix's sentiment; he is a lot less fey than I was expecting, both in features and in pose(what we can see of it anyway).
While I was waiting for you to upload those images, I made this in photoshop: Parts from a command barge, Parts from the Triarch Stalker, 2 minutes of disinterested work: just like the original.
Although they did make those side pieces, I guess.
What are the rules like on these, if you have IA12? Are they solid? Because technically, although you can build one yourself from those kits, they FW one is a little cheaper then kitbashing it together.
It occurs to me that if you have any 2 of the following kits (triarch Stalker, ghost Ark, Scythe) you have 2 of the 3 guns for the Sentry pylons already.
Buy the pylon with the gun bit you're missing and magnetise it.
New Sentry Pylon (HS Choice), 135pts each basic with 120" S9 AP2 Heavy 2 Gauss Exterminator, has interceptor and skyfire, is artillery with 3 Wounds, 3+ save and T7, can take 1-3 in battery's, +40pts for Heat Cannon 36" S10 AP1 Heavy 2 Blast Melta or +25pts for Focussed Death Ray pick point in 24" roll 3D6 and extend line between the two points, S10 AP1 Heavy 1, does TWICE as many hits as models under the line.
They are artillery but move, shoot etc on their own without crew required, due to their canoptek artillery rule they are always auto hit in combat as they have no WS, no morale checks are made regardless of the assault results and they cant be locked in combat either.
Those rules look pretty nice. but if you're takign to deal with flyers then the gauss option is the only one that works as the other 2 are Blast and "not using BS" so can't be shot at flyers.
Hey guys, just noticed something; the DKOK "firing" squad has vanished from the DKOK section. I was considering starting a Krieg list sometime in the near future, and now 1/3 of their standard troopers have vanished.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when something leaves display on FW, it's gone for good.
MajorStoffer wrote: Hey guys, just noticed something; the DKOK "firing" squad has vanished from the DKOK section. I was considering starting a Krieg list sometime in the near future, and now 1/3 of their standard troopers have vanished.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when something leaves display on FW, it's gone for good.
Correcting you here:
Occasionally things get removed from the listings on the Forge World site. Most often it is because the moulds are being replaced and the stock levels of the item are depleted.
In this particular instance, the "Death Korps of Krieg Firing Squad" most likely are having the moulds replaced.
One other potential explanation is that they are planning to repackage/recut the moulds to alter the product they're selling. With how successful the Heresy "bundles" have been, I can easily see a DKoK "bundle".
Kanluwen wrote: In this particular instance, the "Death Korps of Krieg Firing Squad" most likely are having the moulds replaced.
This is correct, assuming they're not lying again: they've said that there was a problem with the molds and they've had to take them off the site until they get it fixed. Which seems believable since DKoK are the most popular of their IG armies, just got another book, and the kit is a core product for the DKoK. Taking it out of production permanently would just be stupid.
There is a warhammer fantasy model, then a mention that the Horus Heresy weekender has sold out, then a reminder that you can order things and have them picked up at the Horus Heresy weekender.
I'm starting to get pretty sick of the HH stuff taking over FW and BL...
Warhammer Forge Newsletter #37
Hi there,
In today’s newsletter we delve into the stygian depths of the Warhammer world to bring you a fiendish new Night Goblin weapon – the terrifyingly bizarre Squig Gobba. We’ve also got an events update for those of you lucky enough to get tickets to the (now sold out!) Horus Heresy Weekender.
Night Goblin Squig Gobba The Squig Gobba, as it is known by the common soldiery of the Empire, is a fearsome sight amongst the Orc & Goblin hordes. Dragged and prodded onto the battlefield by its malevolent Night Goblin tenders, it is a huge beast with an oversized gaping maw, a set of extremely powerful lungs and a ravenous appetite to rival even that of a Troll! With the Squig Gobba heavily chained into position to prevent it bounding off after the first tasty morsel it spies, its tenders start dragging lesser squigs from the cages surrounding them as battle is joined, slicking these vicious beasts with foul-tasting noxious liquids. This not only renders the creatures senseless for a short time, but also prevents the Squig Gobba from immediately swallowing them as the stunned squigs are unceremoniously stuffed into its jaws!
Soon the Squig Gobba’s mouth will be full to bursting point, with thick globs of frothing acidic saliva dribbling constantly forth. Then it is only a matter of time before one of two things happen: either the Squig Gobba will vomit forth its mouthful of now monumentally furious lesser kin, causing chaos and panic on a grand (and thoroughly disgusting) scale amongst the enemy army’s ranks; or the great beast itself will explode in a blazing fireball, as the Night Goblin ‘concoctions’ that coat the squigs react spectacularly with the Squig Gobba’s stomach juices.
The Night Goblin Squig Gobba is a multi-part resin kit designed by Keith Robertson. This improbable war ‘machine’ is packed with detail, from the terrified squig being lifted into the maw of the Squig Gobba, and the variously panicked and angry munitions being spat into the air, to the cruel and sneaky Night Goblin tenders themselves. This fantastic kit is available to pre-order now for despatch from Friday 31st May, and you can download a set of experimental rules from the Forge World website now.
Forge World Events News The Horus Heresy Weekender – Now Sold Out!
On the 18th and 19th of May, Forge World and the Black Library will descend upon The Nottingham Belfry Hotel for the ultimate Horus Heresy getaway. As we’ve previously mentioned, not only will there be a new Event Only model available for the first time, but Weekender attendees will also be the first in the world to have the chance to buy the next Primarch miniature we are releasing; the third of our collectable Horus Heresy Character Series – Simon Egan’s incredible Fulgrim the Illuminator, Primarch of the Emperor’s Children Legion.
Horus Heresy Weekender Reservation Orders We are still accepting reservation orders for this amazing event. This is the best way to ensure we have the exact product you want, packed up and waiting for you at the show. Our sales stand will primarily be carrying the Forge World Horus Heresy range of miniatures and books, but you can reserve any Forge World and Warhammer Forge models that you wish.
As with all our UK shows, Horus Heresy Weekender reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.
Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, a contact telephone number and e-mail address, along with the list of products you wish to reserve, and you will also need your card details to hand too. We’ll process the payment while you are on the phone, and in the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order. We must receive Horus Heresy Weekender reservations by Monday 13th May.
For all those unable to attend it looks as though you could kit-bash a reasonable stand in using an Ungor head and robes from a Flagellant, Chaos Cultist or the lower torso of a Grave Guard.
Hi there,
As you read this, we’ll be busy transforming the Nottingham Belfry Hotel into a Horus Heresy sanctum. In the meantime, we’ve got a few snippets to reveal in today’s newsflash about the event, as well as news of a Horus Heresy gaming weekend which will be held at Warhammer World later this year.
PraetorThe Ultimate Horus Heresy Getaway is Almost Upon Us
This weekend, Forge World, Black Library and hundreds of Horus Heresy fans will descend upon the Nottingham Belfry Hotel for the Horus Heresy Weekender.
Please note that all tickets for this event have now sold out.
Not only will the new Event Only Davinite Serpent Lodge Priest model be available for the first time, but Weekender attendees will also have the first opportunity in the world to buy our second incredible Primarch miniature. This is the third of our collectable Horus Heresy Character Series: Simon Egan’s incredible Fulgrim the Illuminator, Primarch of the Emperor’s Children Legion.
We also expect to have small numbers of Edgar Skomorowski’s detailed Praetor Set (pictured left), and Stuart Williamson’s imposing Legion Glaive Super-Heavy Tank on sale at the event.
Mechanicum ThallaxAround the venue, you’ll also see twenty fantastic Legion art prints, such as the one pictured left. These 200cm x 80cm prints have been exclusively produced for the Weekender, all eighteen Legions are represented (some more than once) and each is available to buy (stand not included).
We’ve also got some more fantastic event only items up our sleeves, including Loyalist and Traitor Legion posters, four different designs of Horus Heresy t-shirts and if that weren’t enough, every attendee will receive an exclusive Weekender backpack.
With seminars, Q&A’s, art showcases, signings, modelling and painting demos, open gaming and participation games, there’s almost too much to do on each day – not to mention the Horus Heresy Pub Quiz and the Zone Mortalis Last Man Standing challenge on Saturday evening.
We’re also excited to announce that Alan Bligh will be hosting an exclusive Author Death Match in the Practice Cages on Saturday afternoon, when Black Library’s John French and Aaron Dembski-Bowden take to the field of battle to play the exclusive scenario you’ll find in your programme. This is a face-off that’s not to be missed!
Horus Heresy Weekender Reservation Orders
If you’ve placed a reservation order for the Horus Heresy Weekender, you’ll now have received your confirmation e-mail. You must bring a copy of this with you to collect your order, as it is your proof of payment. Reservation orders will be available for collection from the Sales stand after 12:00 on Saturday, and we look forward to seeing you there.
Warhammer World Horus Heresy Betrayal Gaming Weekend – 24th-25th August
This weekend is quite unlike any other, where for the first time you can bring legendary heroes like Garviel Loken or even Primarchs such as Horus the Warmaster to battle. You will experience the opening parts of Horus’ ambitions to overthrow the Emperor and set the galaxy ablaze.
Over the weekend, you’ll play four games recreating the exciting and tense battles covered in Forge World’s The Horus Heresy Book One - Betrayal. You will use the Legiones Astartes army list and appendices, allowing you to field exotic weaponry, titanic war machines and unyielding Primarchs across three games on Saturday and Sunday, culminating in a massive Doubles game on Sunday afternoon. Your ticket includes lunch on both days, plus an evening meal on the Saturday, followed by a Heresy-themed quiz.
Also on the Saturday, Black Library will be joining us to showcase their millions-selling Horus Heresy books. We can also announce that on the Sunday, the author of Betrayal, Alan Bligh will be in attendance, giving you the opportunity to have your Horus Heresy tomes signed and talk about the finer points of the book.
So, Legionary, will you fight for the Emperor of Mankind or the Warmaster Horus? Tickets are available now.
Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World
Who's the guy in the picture next to the banner? He was one of the guys at FW's booth at AdeptiCon, really cool guy, really tried to sell me on a Relic Contemptor, almost bought it too
For all those unable to attend it looks as though you could kit-bash a reasonable stand in using an Ungor head and robes from a Flagellant, Chaos Cultist or the lower torso of a Grave Guard.
and the huge focus on novellas and digital only short stories have killed a lot of interest for a lot of us over in the 
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