Herzlos wrote: They'd probably make you buy a new knife. Like when they stopped selling the drill bits individually and expected you to buy a new drill...
They probably realised that their customers realise after buying the drill that they can buy bits for next to nothing from a hardware store, lol.
I've heard of people being kicked out of stores for pointing out they can get spares (either blades or drill bits) from a hardware store, so I really think they expect customers to buy the full thing again. Just like they got rid of the bits service on the assumption people would just by full kits.
Herzlos wrote: They'd probably make you buy a new knife. Like when they stopped selling the drill bits individually and expected you to buy a new drill...
They probably realised that their customers realise after buying the drill that they can buy bits for next to nothing from a hardware store, lol.
I've heard of people being kicked out of stores for pointing out they can get spares (either blades or drill bits) from a hardware store, so I really think they expect customers to buy the full thing again. Just like they got rid of the bits service on the assumption people would just by full kits.
I hope you do not believe every single story about "someone getting kicked out" you hear.
Not to say that such a story might be untrue, but more often than not things get left out during these storytellings--sometimes on purpose and sometimes on accident.
Does anyone remember the last time GW knifes used the 'Swann Morton' style blade? I do, and I remember seeing blister pack of replacement blades (5 in a silver packet) in the York GW for £5 - yes, £5 - about 5 times what you would pay for them elsewhere - and that was years ago - what would they charge now??
I bought some Swann Morton blades on Ebay about 3 years ago. It was just over £1 for a pack of 10 with free delivery. I bought 3 packs. 30 blades for less than GW used to charge for 5. I don't think I've gotten through more than 1 of the packs yet.
Herzlos wrote: They'd probably make you buy a new knife. Like when they stopped selling the drill bits individually and expected you to buy a new drill...
The blade retraction feature of the new GW knife is one of the better things they have to offer with their new tools, but the blades are not standard hobby knife blades so replacing them after you've used up what comes with the knife could be an issue. The likely unintentional hint about where to get replacements is in the knife's description where you see the word "scalpel". It turns out the knife blades they are using are available from scalpel supply sites
Yes, its a swann morton blade with a citadel shell.
The original swan morton retractable can be had for about £5 on ebay. GW used to sell it themselves.
I think they come with number 11 blades.
I prefer the 10's myself.
In the US the brand name may not be so well known, but the majority of scalpel blades sold in the world are Swann Morton profiles, whether from them or copies.
azreal13 wrote: Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!
...with a click so you know its there!
The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.
azreal13 wrote: Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!
...with a click so you know its there!
The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.
GW have a long history of actually acknowledging there's a wider hobby than their own. They often reference products that aren't their own in hobby articles and books, just less so more recently.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: To be fair, we don't know the quality of the new GW tools, they could be awesome. I'm guessing not, but there's always a chance, lol.
This should be kept in mind, the tools won't actually hit shelves until this weekend. But until then, we can still look out for alternatives.
azreal13 wrote: Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!
...with a click so you know its there!
The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.
GW have a long history of actually acknowledging there's a wider hobby than their own. They often reference products that aren't their own in hobby articles and books, just less so more recently.
azreal13 wrote: Don't forget, the Citadel knife comes with three positions!!!!
...with a click so you know its there!
The WD article does actually state that you can get new blades "at any arts and crafts shop". They are admitting there is a wider hobby. It'll never catch on.
GW have a long history of actually acknowledging there's a wider hobby than their own. They often reference products that aren't their own in hobby articles and books, just less so more recently.
Granted, but the references to the wider world became as rare as rocking horse doodoo the moment the company started to try producing everything.
There doesn't seem to be the old advice like buying aquarium plants for alien jungle terrain, picking up cake stand decorations for statue columns.
I think the last GW product that advocated a full on DIY approach was Battle Games in Middle Earth with all of the terrain projects.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: To be fair, we don't know the quality of the new GW tools, they could be awesome. I'm guessing not, but there's always a chance, lol.
This should be kept in mind, the tools won't actually hit shelves until this weekend. But until then, we can still look out for alternatives.
Chances are low though, that someone who can appreciate the quality of tools, will buy the GW tools at release
AllSeeingSkink wrote: To be fair, we don't know the quality of the new GW tools, they could be awesome. I'm guessing not, but there's always a chance, lol.
This should be kept in mind, the tools won't actually hit shelves until this weekend. But until then, we can still look out for alternatives.
Chances are low though, that someone who can appreciate the quality of tools, will buy the GW tools at release
yeah I cant see anyone who might appreciate potential quality of tooling actually buying them either.
These tools can only really be aimed at new blood; as the old veterans already have all the tools and more than is included in this kit.
While the new faces will very possibly die of sticker shock and be put off the hobby entirely.
Micromark has the scraper at 15bucks, not 20. and shows it scraping a curved ship keel, looks like the surfaces of the bit are set for many surfaces as opposed to the GW one, I see he did not favor the knife much.
Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.
Pin vise/Hand drill: Looks nice, lacks in performance in some areas, decent in others, and limited for so high a price.
sculpting tools: Limited number of sculpt tools, more expensive than others. Better quality and number of tools from other sources.
Clippers: Okay, but worh the 30bucks? I am still not so sol on the GW tool kit, so will stay with tools I know and like n use replacements of the tools I have.
shasolenzabi wrote: Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.
Where does it say they're aluminium? I can't imagine anyone would bother making files from aluminium given more expensive, it's not as strong and a 3rd the stiffness of steel.
shasolenzabi wrote: Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.
Where does it say they're aluminium? I can't imagine anyone would bother making files from aluminium given more expensive, it's not as strong and a 3rd the stiffness of steel.
Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.
shasolenzabi wrote: Files: aluminum, and not steel? and similar shapes, limited files in set. I prefer steel files.
Where does it say they're aluminium? I can't imagine anyone would bother making files from aluminium given more expensive, it's not as strong and a 3rd the stiffness of steel.
Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.
No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought
Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.
No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought
Hehehe All I can gather is that this sid eof the pond.. we have a metal called aluminium, over in america.. they do not have this metal but they have one we dont have .. aluminum... funnily they got the exact same properties.
*wonders* where is was discovered first to decide whos name is the right one lol.
Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.
No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought
Hehehe All I can gather is that this sid eof the pond.. we have a metal called aluminium, over in america.. they do not have this metal but they have one we dont have .. aluminum... funnily they got the exact same properties.
*wonders* where is was discovered first to decide whos name is the right one lol.
We seem to have tons of it in a red dirt deposit. Not sure why the spelling and pronunciation differs so, I always got a giggle out of Matchbox models using the term colour when we say color
I went into my local GW today to try the tools so I thought I would pop in here and give an opinion on them.
First like many people I was sceptical of the prices on them but I do like how they look and was willing to give them a fair chance.
Before I begin I should say I tried all the tools except the molding tools and I bought the clippers, files and moldline remover.
These are of course just my opinions so please be considerate with replies. I am not a GW fanboy, idiot or newbie. I know what I like and If I can buy it then I will.
The Clippers
The clippers where the first thing I tried and I have to admit I really liked them. They felt really nice in the hand and they cut incredibly well, the SpikeyBits review got it dead on when it said it was like cutting through butter.
I have always used the old GW clippers and they have lasted me for years. I decided it was time for a new pair and I originally went and tried the Xuron 410t which I could buy locally for £15. Whilst I really liked them to me the new GW ones felt better and personally visually (I know its not really important how they look) I preferred them so for me the extra £3 wasnt an issue.
Files
I am incredibly ocd with mold lines and sprue marks on my models and I usually use a range of files, blades nail buffers and emery paper to get my models looking perfect before undercoating. This of course can be quite costly as the buffers and emery stuff wear out really quickly.
The files are very very fine which is exactly what I was hoping for, I still have and use my old GW files but these new ones fill a totally different role for me and help cut down on the costs of constantly replacing nail buffers, emery paper and various other bits.
Moldline Remover
I currently own and use on a regular basis the old GW moldline remover and I have to say it is one of my most used tools. I know a lot of people like to use a knife for removing mold lines but I found after using a knife for years that I prefered the moldline remover the moment I first tried it.
The new one is smaller, heavier and a lot nicer to use in my opinion, the rounded metal handle feels a lot sturdier in the hands over the old one and I feel I can get a little more control with it. The edge on it is way nicer too and it gives a much cleaner removal than the old one.
Pin Vice
Had a quick try of the new pin vice and this was the first of the new tools that I felt was worse than the older model. The older rubber gripped one felt a lot nicer in the hands whereas the new metal topped one to me seems like it would be very uncomfortable in prolonged use.
Knife
I am quite biased here as I do prefer the rubber gripped scalpel type knives to the retractable blade ones. Gave the new one a quick try but it really wasn't for me, Blade was not as sturdy as I would have liked and I prefer a more rounded handle to the flatter retractable style ones.
Overall I was happy with my purchases, I love how they feel and look and to me the clippers and moldline remover are a step up from their previous incarnations in both function and quality. I do agree the prices are a little high for what they are but the way I see it is if you like them and you can afford them then why the hell not?
Go through review part B 2nd review pice he did, he said they were aluminum, and they even appear the light color of aluminum, so aluminum files, and 2 similar shaped ones at that.
No, no.. it's pronounced AH-LEW-MIN-EE-UM . i.e. Aluminium. Food for thought
Hehehe All I can gather is that this sid eof the pond.. we have a metal called aluminium, over in america.. they do not have this metal but they have one we dont have .. aluminum... funnily they got the exact same properties.
*wonders* where is was discovered first to decide whos name is the right one lol.
It was first called aluminum, then it was realised it didn't look right on the periodic chart, so it was changed to aluminium.
Dunno, for a few bucks less those tools would be just fine, but with those prices I'll rather go for more tools from a hardware store. For that price you can mostly buy professional tools...
Agreed. Too expensive, but I do like them in any case. And I have to admit that I an swayed by the consistent styling of the tools. The cutter is my overall favorite in terms of aesthetics, but I don't see it as any kind of great design improvement over the previous model in terms of its utility.
The contents:
Sidecutters - used to cut plastic, resin and small metal bits.
Pin vice - a one-handed drill used for pinning metal parts.
5 Drill Bits - for the pin vice (different sizes).
File with soft grip handle - to remove mould lines, flash, etc.
Hobby knife - extremely sharp blade for precision work.
Tweezers - very useful for picking up small parts, especially when gluing.
7g super glue - included free.
A5 user guide leaflet
yeah I cant see anyone who might appreciate potential quality of tooling actually buying them either.
