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Post by: shrike
So this is the SR pic, leaked from the GW site by a guy who updated it on purpose:
Your opinion?
MOD edit : poll moved and pic added to this post !
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Post by: Dez
I think we're going to go on a trip to the Discussions Forum, wheee!
It looks Orky to me. I want to loot one 
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Post by: wolfshadow
I'm still not sure why people are bitching about aerodynamics in a universe where there is counter-grav.....
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Post by: juraigamer
So while I think it's kinda boss looking, I hate the fact that it will grace the table tops soon. I was have enough trouble with guard Valkyries, now this? Sad orks are sad.
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Post by: shrike
So far- most votes are negative...
I think they're pretty accurate. Too much weight at the front.
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Post by: Element206
I like it....then again it might just be the ' BA homer' in me that keeps enjoying the models we get that arent shared with other chapters! 
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Post by: Asherian Command
Element206 wrote:I like it....then again it might just be the ' BA homer' in me that keeps enjoying the models we get that arent shared with other chapters!
Thats true. Thats why I am buying a 1,800 point Blood Angel army XD
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Post by: geordie09
I'd prefer it if it was available to all chapters... otherwise I like it, it has a good chunky marine look about it!
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Post by: EmpBobo
Looks like it would fly like a box. Without the vector jets or huge engines I'd be surprised if it flew at all. It keeps with the whole space marine vehicle aspect though I must admit I wish it looked more like the flyer on the back of Hunt for Volodorus.
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Post by: shrike
EmpBobo wrote:Looks like it would fly like a box. Without the vector jets or huge engines I'd be surprised if it flew at all. It keeps with the whole space marine vehicle aspect though I must admit I wish it looked more like the flyer on the back of Hunt for Volodorus.
Pics?
BTW if anyone gets this when it's released and convert it to look better, please do a tut. 
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Post by: EmpBobo
I do really like the look of the top turret though.
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Post by: Asherian Command
EmpBobo wrote:Looks like it would fly like a box. Without the vector jets or huge engines I'd be surprised if it flew at all. It keeps with the whole space marine vehicle aspect though I must admit I wish it looked more like the flyer on the back of Hunt for Volodorus.
we wish alot of things.
But the Vulture Conversions look so much better than this piece of sh--
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Post by: EmpBobo
shrike wrote:
Pics?
Of the back of the book?
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I'm not a fan, but if Daemonhunters do get them, I'll probably have a couple.
They'd certainly not sway me to buy a Blood Angel army.
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Post by: EmpBobo
Maybe one for fun depending on how much it costs.
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Post by: geordie09
Hopefully its a prelude to the Thunderhawk in placky!
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Post by: shrike
EmpBobo wrote:shrike wrote:
Pics?
Of the back of the book?
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I'm not a fan, but if Daemonhunters do get them, I'll probably have a couple.
They'd certainly not sway me to buy a Blood Angel army.
It's been said that GK will get them, and SMs will in thier next 'dex.
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Post by: fox40
I think its great.
def gonna get 3 of those for my BA.
i hope it comes with the sponson options and def gonna magnetize it for weapon options and the dread on the back. i want to do 2 BA ones and a death company one, it will look awesome in death company colours with a death dread with blood talons mmmmmmmmmm stormraven finally.
It looks better than all the conversions i have seen cos at least it has the 4 entry points and room for the dread.
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Post by: blood reaper
BURN IT! , HEARSY! , BURN IT! , DESTROY IT !
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Post by: fox40
that top turret would look awesome on a razorback
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Post by: Gorskar.da.Lost
Thing looks like it'd fly straight through a Titan. It's got one hell of a bulky front!
That means I like it, by the way.
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Post by: warsmith pyrus
Yeah I really don't like it as the body's too short and look a little too like a small child's toy (playmobil maybe?).
But yeah the conversions i've seen look better (or the casteus assault ram) so for that I've voted to burn it. 
Really the thing looks like a cube (no golden ratio there  ). It may look better with a dread hanging off it but i doubt it.
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Post by: Just Dave
shrike wrote:So far- most votes are negative...
I think they're pretty accurate. Too much weight at the front.
I voted negative and I think at-least 50% bad votes is too many bad votes for it to be released. Not that it would change that...
In regards to too much weight at the front:
wolfshadow wrote:I'm still not sure why people are bitching about aerodynamics in a universe where there is counter-grav.....
And there'd likely to be a big ol' dread attached to the back.
Actually, on that note, could a model look at all reasonable with Space for a dreadnought on the back?!
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Post by: Element206
EmpBobo wrote:Looks like it would fly like a box. Without the vector jets or huge engines I'd be surprised if it flew at all. It keeps with the whole space marine vehicle aspect though I must admit I wish it looked more like the flyer on the back of Hunt for Volodorus.
well i doubt the idea behind the construct was to drop troops into at Mach 1. Its not designed for areodynamics! Its predicated on taking heavy fire while delivering its payload.....I think the look has perfect psynergy with the rest of the SM lineup....has a look that clearly identifies it as something futuristic, yet still maintains the look of something that is composed of the finest armor the imperium can offer!
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Post by: Melissia
Eh, it looks okay.
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Post by: HiveFleet
I think the problem is that the engines dont look like they have enough structural integrity to actually lift the damn box off the ground. As soon as thrust is applied, they would just rip right off and go flying in different directions...
I mean, sure, its a game about space Daemons, aliens and God Emperors, but most of the designs still have a sense of realism and functionality about them...especially the imperials. The engines need to be lower, the trunk of the ship needs to be longer, and deeper at the end....conversley, they could have just made the turret to tail section bulkier, and not had that negative space there...it would have looked fine IMO then.
what a waste of a CAD team. Couldve been building Tervigons and Tyrannofexs!
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Post by: Mr Mystery
Honestly, not sure yet.
Bits I like, bits I don't...going to be a grower one way or the other.
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And as for the overall 'stubby' appearance, I shall wait to see it from other angles, as this one may not be all that complimentary.
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Post by: Space_Potato
I threw up a bit when I saw that.
I think that says enough.
S_P
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Post by: Melissia
Maybe it's the angle, but it looks like it's missing one half of its tail.
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Post by: General Seric
Front looks way too big, it does not look like it could fly. I think it is way too out of proportion to fit.
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Post by: Element206
Melissia wrote:Maybe it's the angle, but it looks like it's missing one half of its tail.
I agree, I think much of this criticism could be blamed on the poor angle of the model
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Post by: A-P
Going by first impression I voted "pretty bad". That...thing is supposed to fly and transport troops and a Dread? It is a small box with the aerodynamics of a brick. At least the Valkyrie/Vendetta has the dimensions of a recognizable aircraft.
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Post by: GitSmack
We're only getting one angle on it from this pic, so I think there's too little info to go on for an accurate poll.
I mean, so many of the more recent kits haven't been all that photogenic, but then turn out to be pretty darn good in person.
Again, hard to say much from this perspective on it, but it does look like it's going to have a smaller footprint than the valkyrie...
I just can't wait for them to release it to get a more complete view.
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Post by: Element206
A-P wrote: Going by first impression I voted "pretty bad". That...thing is supposed to fly and transport troops and a Dread? It is a small box with the aerodynamics of a brick. At least the Valkyrie/Vendetta has the dimensions of a recognizable aircraft.
How fast exactly are you expecting this aircraft to fly? This is a short ranged transport...I think for its utilitarian use and purpose, the deminsions look alright. I imagine it would see lots of fire directed at it from the ground, so why wouldnt it look like a brick? Its built for defense.
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Post by: RaegMachine
It's kawaii imho
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Post by: Hawkins
i wonder if the turrent will fit a razorback......
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Post by: Fra3ture
All the kit bashes out there look a lot better than this.
I can see it being the fact that costs less than a Valk and a Landraider combined that will be its only saving grace. The kit bashed one looks a lot more like how I envision these, or any, Space Marine planes.
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Post by: Kingsley
Weird angle, but looks ace. I'd probably buy two or three.
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Post by: reds8n
EmpBobo wrote: I must admit I wish it looked more like the flyer on the back of Hunt for Volodorus.
Those are, or are supposed to anyway, Thunderhawks, modified somewhat to accomadate the White Scars bikes.
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Post by: Grief_Bringer
I'm sorry but that thing is truly fugly. I think I'd direct all my fire at it just to get it off the table.
Ok so it doesn't have to be aerodynamic from the standpoint of anti-gravity tech and so on...but lets be fair its a model and it would have been nice if it looked a bit more sleek.
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Post by: EmpBobo
@ reds8n: They look pretty sweet as thunder hawks as well
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Post by: shrike
Grief_Bringer wrote:I'm sorry but that thing is truly fugly. I think I'd direct all my fire at it just to get it off the table.
Ok so it doesn't have to be aerodynamic from the standpoint of anti-gravity tech and so on...but lets be fair its a model and it would have been nice if it looked a bit more sleek.
For me, you summed it up nicely there.
Asherian Command wrote:http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jonsullivanart.com/images/hunt-for-voldorius-copy_03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jonsullivanart.com/hunt-for-voldorius-copy.html&h=478&w=1763&sz=265&tbnid=liEpMSOKLTOwqM:&tbnh=41&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHunt%2Bfor%2BVoldorius&zoom=1&q=Hunt+for+Voldorius& hl=en&usg=__n6tDyvxBC6jQL2eRmAf4VOsEK3A=& sa=X&ei=FkfcTMqDFeaJnAfEwbkX&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAQ
heres the pic everyone wants.
That thunderhawk looks good. That should be the stormraven.
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This, IMO, looks soo much better:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/154621-storm-raven%20redesign.html
And here's an interesting point:
look at 2500kgm3's post:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/327480.page
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Post by: DiscoVader
It looks pretty bad, to me. Granted, it's still salvageable, but as a straight out-of-box model, I wouldn't play it. It'd need to go through a good amount of fixing/modding before I felt comfortable playing it on the table.
That is, if I were a SM player. Being an Ork player, I can't wait to loot the feth out of this kit and make me some Fighta-Bombas.
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Post by: shrike
Same here. I'm either cutting the las-turret off, or buying a razorback and swapping the lascannons, doing what 2500kgm3 is doing, or just bulking it out to look less tall & skinny to more tall & fat- bigger, but then will probably look better too.
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Post by: A-P
Element206 wrote:
How fast exactly are you expecting this aircraft to fly? This is a short ranged transport...I think for its utilitarian use and purpose, the deminsions look alright. I imagine it would see lots of fire directed at it from the ground, so why wouldnt it look like a brick? Its built for defense.
What`s the purpose of this defense speech ? I stated my opinion and you have yours. Fast or slow, it is still supposed to fly and my Suspension of Disbelief can only go so far. YMMV.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest. I sincerely hope it isn't over 50$. This doesn't seem worth the standard 57.75 for land raiders and the like.
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Post by: shrike
I'm definitely gonna get one- It's just the model'sterribly out of proportion. I'm gonna change that.
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Post by: Asherian Command
Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest. I sincerely hope it isn't over 50$. This doesn't seem worth the standard 57.75 for land raiders and the like.
I can see that. it is not that good. But either way I am going to buy it on Amazon from now on. Ever since my store manager tried to get me into chaos daemons 
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Post by: shrike
Asherian Command wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest. I sincerely hope it isn't over 50$. This doesn't seem worth the standard 57.75 for land raiders and the like.
I can see that. it is not that good. But either way I am going to buy it on Amazon from now on. Ever since my store manager tried to get me into chaos daemons
"Do you need anything? Glue, paint, Chaos daemons...?"
"no thanks, I'm just getting this tactical squad..."
"They have new models!"
"No thanks, just getting some marines..."
"but-"
"Okay i'll buy your  ing daemons!!!"
"Okay- now would you be interested in- hey!...where'd he go?"
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Post by: Fafnir
Good god, it's horrendous.
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Post by: Asherian Command
shrike wrote:Asherian Command wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest. I sincerely hope it isn't over 50$. This doesn't seem worth the standard 57.75 for land raiders and the like.
I can see that. it is not that good. But either way I am going to buy it on Amazon from now on. Ever since my store manager tried to get me into chaos daemons
"Do you need anything? Glue, paint, Chaos daemons...?"
"no thanks, I'm just getting this tactical squad..."
"They have new models!"
"No thanks, just getting some marines..."
"but-"
"Okay i'll buy your ing daemons!!!"
"Okay- now would you be interested in- hey!...where'd he go?"
Thats actually how it happened. And I refuse to go to GW anymore due to that. This was in chicago and in the bunker, ugh they were so stupid. I literally wanted to crush his daemon princes.
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Post by: Lexx
One word.
Chibi-hawk
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Post by: Major Malfunction
Looks like the bastard love-child of a Thunderhawk and a Valkyrie.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
The Green Git wrote:Looks like the bastard love-child of a Thunderhawk and a Valkyrie.
More like a land speeder and a rhino had a baby and made this thing....
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Post by: Gitzbitah
The only mistake that they made was in their choice of bird. This is the Storm Pelican!
Beaks for the Beakie God!
I can't wait to paint one gray with a yellow crew compartment.
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Post by: AlexHolker
This is very bad. Everything about this "aircraft" - drag, weight distribution, lift and thrust - is arranged to make it smash its nose into the ground. And for such a blocky aircraft, it has pitiful cargo space.
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Post by: Just Dave
Alex, you wanna tell that to a Deff-Copta or Fighta-Bomber?
I'm going to quote Mythos from a Dark Eldar thread as I think he may have intended it for here. Nonetheless, his analogy is largely correct IMO.
aka_mythos wrote:I think its obvious GW was trying to bring in elements of this sort of heavy lift helicopter...
hence the large over hanging rear beyond the crew cabin...but they obviously fail.
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Post by: Ed_Bodger
The complaint that people just built theirs from a Land Raider and a Valkyrie has just been put to bed this piece of gak looks like one of the worst conversions I have ever seen. Others on this site and at my gaming group are a lot, lot better. GW: fething idiots
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Worst GW model since the Multi-Muscle Flipper-Feet Minotaurs and the Pumbagore (and at least the Minotaurs can be salvaged with a decent paintjob). I mean... what were they thinking? It's awful.
I was really looking forward to the Stormraven - our own mini-Thunderhawk. But this is just... gah. Pathetic effort.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Dumpster with wings. Fail.
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Post by: Xca|iber
You know what? I love it. Every bit of the Emperor-damned thing. I think it's wonderful. Absolute model gold. It's an awesome piece. You wanna know why? Here, I'll tell you:
It's just as ridiculous as everything else in the BA Codex. Now, along with hot-dropped Land Raiders being flown in by Thunderhawks, crazy super monstrous creature-marines, and flying, gold, daemon-nipple, mary-sue god-angels, we have a big flying red brick.
I mean, if you were the Blood Angels, why wouldn't you build your flying support craft to resemble a hideous cross-breed between a Radio-Flyer red wagon and a big red brick that's been tossed through space by the pansy "reincarnation" of your Primarch?
10/10.
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Post by: Just Dave
Xca|iber wrote:You know what? I love it. Every bit of the Emperor-damned thing. I think it's wonderful. Absolute model gold. It's an awesome piece. You wanna know why? Here, I'll tell you:
It's just as ridiculous as everything else in the BA Codex. Now, along with hot-dropped Land Raiders being flown in by Thunderhawks, crazy super monstrous creature-marines, and flying, gold, daemon-nipple, mary-sue god-angels, we have a big flying red brick.
I mean, if you were the Blood Angels, why wouldn't you build your flying support craft to resemble a hideous cross-breed between a Radio-Flyer red wagon and a big red brick?
10/10.
Xcaliber is a genius. He's right you know. It makes perfect (no) sense.
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Post by: Mr Nobody
The story of the jet who thought it could. Sorry that thing looks a little wimpy to me.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
H.B.M.C. wrote:Worst GW model since the Multi-Muscle Flipper-Feet Minotaurs and the Pumbagore (and at least the Minotaurs can be salvaged with a decent paintjob). I mean... what were they thinking? It's awful.
I was really looking forward to the Stormraven - our own mini-Thunderhawk. But this is just... gah. Pathetic effort.
Yeah, I agree.
Why don't they just make a plastic thunderhawk already? I could care less about the inside of the hull, just make us one already. It's not THAT big.
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Post by: Luke_Prowler
While I won't say anything about the model itself, since it has all been already said, I'm more worried about the balance on the thing (assuming it comes with a flying base).
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Xca|iber wrote:It's just as ridiculous as everything else in the BA Codex. Now, along with hot-dropped Land Raiders being flown in by Thunderhawks, crazy super monstrous creature-marines, and flying, gold, daemon-nipple, mary-sue god-angels, we have a big flying red brick.
Hmm... hadn't thought of that way. Well, with that perspective, you're 100% correct. It does fit with the Blood Angel Codex. It's like the final exclamation mark that finishes off the ludicrous excercise in stupid excess that was the Blood Angel Codex. The only thing that could top it off would be if the "Bloodstrike Missiles" actually had 'Blood' written on the side of them.
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Post by: Luke_Prowler
H.B.M.C. wrote:Xca|iber wrote:It's just as ridiculous as everything else in the BA Codex. Now, along with hot-dropped Land Raiders being flown in by Thunderhawks, crazy super monstrous creature-marines, and flying, gold, daemon-nipple, mary-sue god-angels, we have a big flying red brick.
Hmm... hadn't thought of that way. Well, with that perspective, you're 100% correct. It does fit with the Blood Angel Codex. It's like the final exclamation mark that finishes off the ludicrous excercise in stupid excess that was the Blood Angel Codex. The only thing that could top it off would be if the "Bloodstrike Missiles" actually had 'Blood' written on the side of them.
Or are made out of actual blood.
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Post by: lordmoon
Maybe it will come with lots of cool bits
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Post by: Mukkin'About
Why the hell wasn't this in the book to begin with? *grumbles* GW!!!
nerdrge aside, it's alright and i'm glad to see i don't have to wait forever to be able to get this.
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Post by: Ailaros
ick.
I especially don't like the awful turret on it. How could they have done such a nice job with the valkyrie and then turned around and made something that looks like a bull dog mated with a scrap heap?
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Post by: Mukkin'About
LoL I love how everyone complains about just about everything GW releases
And at the end of the day you still play the game & buy the minis
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Post by: DiscoVader
Mukkin'About wrote:LoL I love how everyone complains about just about everything GW releases
And at the end of the day you still play the game & buy the minis
Well, it's like that old army saying - if the troops aren't complaining, then something's not right!
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Post by: Ordznik
Short bus!
And the really cool thing-it's got a special seat in the back for the crippled kid!
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Post by: Pilau Rice
Hey i've seen one of these before but it didn't have the wings ...
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Post by: Iratus Custodis
I don't like the turret..reminds me of eldar tanks...other than that it looks slighty "odd" but that is most likely the angle, but I rather like the general look of it.
I would get one for my Blood Angels Successor Chapter if I had not already started working on one myself...
Though with Grey Knights coming out, I might get a few or 3...you can't have enough marine armies I guess.
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Post by: Warboss Kannonblasta
I love stormravens! Until a lascannon blasts them out of the sky T_T
Seriously though, it is really fun to load a DC Dred and DC into a SR, go 24 inches first turn, and watch your opponent squirm as they try to shoot it down with everything they have
I like the model simply because now I don't have to do a conversion. With a front end like that though.....that thing should be able to tank shock lol.
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Post by: Gargskull
Can we have an option in the poll for "buying one to loot/break up" please?
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Post by: Rymafyr
Wow, to me that pic looks like a serious throwback to the 2nd edition models. If that is truly what the SR is going to look like, I think GW's Ugliest Model has just been found.
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Post by: Melissia
No, that's still definitely the Sister Dialogous.
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Post by: Major Thom
I don't love it, but I don't out right hate either. I do see a couple of areas where some fairly simple conversion work will give it a better look.
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Post by: Seaward
A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
I bet this 'accidental spoiler' was to see if the community would like it or not
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Post by: MattRendar
it looks unfinished ! it starts off thick and quickly tampers off to the wings . they should have used forge world for help . the valkyrie is a really great design , but this vehicle lacks . well see when we get it in our hands to draw more judgement .
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Post by: shrike
Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
Hmm- never thought of that... another crappy fail to add to the list...
Pilau Rice wrote:Hey i've seen one of these before but it didn't have the wings ...
Just Dave wrote:Xca|iber wrote:You know what? I love it. Every bit of the Emperor-damned thing. I think it's wonderful. Absolute model gold. It's an awesome piece. You wanna know why? Here, I'll tell you:
It's just as ridiculous as everything else in the BA Codex. Now, along with hot-dropped Land Raiders being flown in by Thunderhawks, crazy super monstrous creature-marines, and flying, gold, daemon-nipple, mary-sue god-angels, we have a big flying red brick.
I mean, if you were the Blood Angels, why wouldn't you build your flying support craft to resemble a hideous cross-breed between a Radio-Flyer red wagon and a big red brick?
10/10.
Xcaliber is a genius. He's right you know. It makes perfect (no) sense.
+1.
I think the results speak for themselves- nearly 1/4 are for the burning.
BTW it does look like a Valkyrie and a land raider had a kid. But instead of the best of both, it got the worst. It has a bulky fat body with a couple of teeny wings.
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Post by: Gibbsey
Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
I one part i really dont like is that manned turret on top... it would of been better under the front... or unmanned, it just looks like you wouldent be able to fire at anything
And im really hoping the model has thrusters at the front (cant really see with the marines in the way), that would explain the front heavy look and would make sense (as well as really giving the Stormraven the manuverablity its said to have), If it doesnt im just going to add some XP
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Post by: Asherian Command
shrike wrote:Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
Hmm- never thought of that... another crappy fail to add to the list...
Pilau Rice wrote:Hey i've seen one of these before but it didn't have the wings ...
Just Dave wrote:Xca|iber wrote:You know what? I love it. Every bit of the Emperor-damned thing. I think it's wonderful. Absolute model gold. It's an awesome piece. You wanna know why? Here, I'll tell you:
It's just as ridiculous as everything else in the BA Codex. Now, along with hot-dropped Land Raiders being flown in by Thunderhawks, crazy super monstrous creature-marines, and flying, gold, daemon-nipple, mary-sue god-angels, we have a big flying red brick.
I mean, if you were the Blood Angels, why wouldn't you build your flying support craft to resemble a hideous cross-breed between a Radio-Flyer red wagon and a big red brick?
10/10.
Xcaliber is a genius. He's right you know. It makes perfect (no) sense.
+1.
I think the results speak for themselves- nearly 1/4 are for the burning.
BTW it does look like a Valkyrie and a land raider had a kid. But instead of the best of both, it got the worst. It has a bulky fat body with a couple of teeny wings.
I lol hardly at some of these.
But some are so true. We must go to work!
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Post by: Kanluwen
Gibbsey wrote:Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
I one part i really dont like is that manned turret on top... it would of been better under the front... or unmanned, it jsut looks like you wouldent be able to fire at anything
And im really hoping the model has thrusters at the front (cant really see with the marines in the way) that would explain the front heavy look and would make sense (as well as really giving the Stormraven the manuverablity its said to have) If it doesnt, im just going to add some XP
It's a ground attack aircraft with the twin-linked weaponry on top of the fuselage.
Everyone who keeps saying "the turret would have been better under the front", apparently isn't noticing the fact that the whole y'know...ramp for troops?
Yeah. It flips down. Current placement allows that turret to still fire in support of troops while it's landed to drop off its cargo.
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Post by: Henners91
If that could fly then so can I...
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Post by: Asherian Command
Yeah the engines are uhh. Kinda from starwars? look at it they look like someone ripped it off the Skywalker pod racer and said there we go!
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Post by: andyroo9000
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Post by: Bryce-2-Good87
I dont know. Its ok, though to be honest I have seen better models made by my mates.
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Post by: jbunny
Don't like the look, but I will still get 3.
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Post by: Asherian Command
I'll get 2 of them and build one up as a Wanderers Chapter and the other for my Storm Crusaders just for the hell of it.
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Post by: shrike
I'm gonna get 2 or 3 and convert them to look better:
One for GK,
2 for Raven guard.
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Post by: Asherian Command
I might buy a 3rd one just for fun and make it a Crusader Dropper.
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Post by: shrike
Asherian Command wrote:I might buy a 3rd one just for fun and make it a Crusader Dropper.
To fit in with all the other completely viable BA stuff- a tiny flyer carrying a LR. A thunderhawk can only manage one.
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Post by: Asherian Command
You know what I plan to do to it right?
this
add a giant Freaking Laser on the top with a Box for my paint brushes, and it must also hold my knife, and two thousand ultramarine, and blood angel space marine's skulls . Then the word AWESOME is written all over it and then a killer paint job, and racing flames on the front.
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Post by: Asherian Command
Well Sadly Cato Scarius will be thrown in but his company can surivive and 900 ultras + 1100 of the blood angels all thrown in together.
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Post by: shrike
I know how I'm going to make it look better:
The reason it looks wierd is:
The turret, complete with the vent, which I am going to cut off;
The missing back end (meant for a dread)- I shall build a back end, following the shape of the main hull, but leave the rear open. This added area will contain the dread. He shall, instead of hanging on, will enjoy a much more pleasant journey- standing in a cargo area, waiting to jump down (similar to those planes that parachute regiments jump off, but is permanently open).
I shall have an apoc siege dread in the back. Fly over a bunker/trench and boom. Sector cleared.
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Post by: General Ian
the only thing it needs now are some chaosy symbols then it would be perfect
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Post by: Asherian Command
General Ian wrote:the only thing it needs now are some chaosy symbols then it would be perfect
not really i think that would make it worse.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
General Ian wrote:the only thing it needs now are some chaosy symbols then it would be perfect
Quite the opposite. I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
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Post by: shrike
Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
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Post by: Asherian Command
shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
You should see how Contradictory I get sometimes XD
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Post by: shrike
Asherian Command wrote:shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
You should see how Contradictory I get sometimes XD
When you think about it- we're all contradictory- in our own special way. aw.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
shrike wrote:Asherian Command wrote:shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
You should see how Contradictory I get sometimes XD
When you think about it- we're all contradictory- in our own special way. aw.
Yeah, you promised to deliver Chuck Norris marine pics, and didn't.
Contradictions all up in here.
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Post by: Asherian Command
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:shrike wrote:Asherian Command wrote:shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
You should see how Contradictory I get sometimes XD
When you think about it- we're all contradictory- in our own special way. aw.
Yeah, you promised to deliver Chuck Norris marine pics, and didn't.
Contradictions all up in here.
What did i?
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Post by: shrike
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Yeah, you promised to deliver Chuck Norris marine pics, and didn't.
Contradictions all up in here.
Will you ever let that go?!  
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Asherian Command wrote:battle Brother Lucifer wrote:shrike wrote:Asherian Command wrote:shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
You should see how Contradictory I get sometimes XD
When you think about it- we're all contradictory- in our own special way. aw.
Yeah, you promised to deliver Chuck Norris marine pics, and didn't.
Contradictions all up in here.
What did i?
Shrike didn't come though on his Chuck Norris marine thread. I'm assuming it never existed in the first place, but w/e Automatically Appended Next Post: shrike wrote:battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Yeah, you promised to deliver Chuck Norris marine pics, and didn't.
Contradictions all up in here.
Will you ever let that go?!
Will YOU ever post up the pics?
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Post by: Gibbsey
Kanluwen wrote:Gibbsey wrote:Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
I one part i really dont like is that manned turret on top... it would of been better under the front... or unmanned, it jsut looks like you wouldent be able to fire at anything
And im really hoping the model has thrusters at the front (cant really see with the marines in the way) that would explain the front heavy look and would make sense (as well as really giving the Stormraven the manuverablity its said to have) If it doesnt, im just going to add some XP
It's a ground attack aircraft with the twin-linked weaponry on top of the fuselage.
Everyone who keeps saying "the turret would have been better under the front", apparently isn't noticing the fact that the whole y'know...ramp for troops?
Yeah. It flips down. Current placement allows that turret to still fire in support of troops while it's landed to drop off its cargo.
But the way the turret is positioned can it even fire downwards? i just looks like it would only be able to fire level with the top of the model, and then it would miss even a land raider, and what happened to automated turrets? or one controlled by another marine inside the Stormraven
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Post by: shrike
 Eh? 
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Post by: Asherian Command
shrike wrote: Eh?
I pulled a similar thing until recently I never uploaded any pictures until people demanded that I did so.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Yeah, but he made a thread for a (probably non-existent) marine, and talked about how awesome it was. Months later, it got necro'd and then he kept getting 'delayed'. "My camera won't work" "My brother was using it" "My brother's camera won't work" etc
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Post by: Asherian Command
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Yeah, but he made a thread for a (probably non-existent) marine, and talked about how awesome it was. Months later, it got necro'd and then he kept getting 'delayed'. "My camera won't work" "My brother was using it" "My brother's camera won't work" etc
Lol sounds just like me
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Post by: shrike
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Yeah, but he made a thread for a (probably non-existent) marine, and talked about how awesome it was. Months later, it got necro'd and then he kept getting 'delayed'. "My camera won't work" "My brother was using it" "My brother's camera won't work" etc
Aah, shaddap.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
shrike wrote:battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Yeah, but he made a thread for a (probably non-existent) marine, and talked about how awesome it was. Months later, it got necro'd and then he kept getting 'delayed'. "My camera won't work" "My brother was using it" "My brother's camera won't work" etc
Aah, shaddap.
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Post by: shrike
BTW how do you post pics? Did it a while back and now i've forgotten
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Right click, 'copy image location'
hit the image button, paste , hit the image button a second time.
img] -pasted thing- [/img
(The opening and closing brackets will be there when you click the button. I deleted them so you can see
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Post by: whrextheimpaler
No.
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Post by: Asherian Command
whrextheimpaler wrote:No.
to what?
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Post by: guardpiper
I like the front and the turret, both give it that bulky Imperium of Man tech feel. But I wish the back end was a bit bulkier. It looks to thin and fragile, like and eldar flyer.
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Post by: shrike
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Right click, 'copy image location'
hit the image button, paste , hit the image button a second time.
img] -pasted thing- [/img
(The opening and closing brackets will be there when you click the button. I deleted them so you can see
I was right!
I keep doing that, but it doesn't work!
Look, I'll try post that photoshopped image:
[img]
[/img] Automatically Appended Next Post: See?!
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Post by: Samus_aran115
shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
Ah you Yeah, I've since changed my opinion after looking at it for real a couple times.
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Post by: geordie09
warsmith pyrus wrote:Yeah I really don't like it as the body's too short and look a little too like a small child's toy (playmobil maybe?).
I thought the same about the Deathstrike/Medusa... extremely fisher price!
But I don't mind this as much as I disliked that!
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Did you right click the image anc 'copy image location' ?
Also, put the [img] before and after, without hitting enter
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Post by: shrike
Dunnit. Maybe it's my laptop Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW, if you guys were to sum it up in 1 word, what would it be?
For me, it'd either be:
Fish
Impractical
Out-of-proportion (one word? meh.)
Clunky
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Post by: Grey Templar
i like it.
can't wait till my GKs get to zip around in one or 3 and dominate.
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Post by: 1hadhq
shrike wrote:BTW how do you post pics? Did it a while back and now i've forgotten
Maybe read the Dakka Faq?
You'll find them at the top of the forums
Link to How to post pics: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/205120.page#206763
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Post by: scubasteve04
It looks terrible. I would never own that.
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Post by: gazelle
It's SO cute! It looks like a baby Thunderhawk!
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Post by: Asherian Command
gazelle wrote:It's SO cute! It looks like a baby Thunderhawk!
Are you a girl if so I am planing on just saying. Thank you at least you agree with noone here.
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Post by: ChiliPowderKeg
I don't plan on doing anything Space Marine after my 1 year Chaos Fiasco. Too many fragging Rhino's are needed. And I HATE Rhinos more than this or anything deemed "ugly" by most others and myself.
So I have no say in this, a herp-a-derp.
(But it'll probably share the same fate as the Plastic Prince, explained in my sig)
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Post by: MasticatorDeelux
Eh. It's okay. I'd try to toss the wings/engine in line with the turret to make it look a bit better, but that's me.
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Post by: Asherian Command
Ok peoples I need to go to bed but here is my words of wisdom for you all.....
Forever Shall Dakka Dakka Thrive and that we shall one day rule the world, In our quest for world domination we must learn the ways of the suck, but now that GW has blessed us with something of greater suck, I forsee a time of great prosperity for Grey Knights. Remember this Dakkites! For I will be on this in 12 hours...
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Post by: LordTyphus
I feel like I could do better, but can't wait to loot it as an objective for my Sorkviet Rusha army, Can you say, failed the Moon Race ( by the fact that it crashed into the planet instead of beating the bad moons to ( Insert planet with no name here )
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Post by: shrike
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Yeah, but he made a thread for a (probably non-existent) marine, and talked about how awesome it was. Months later, it got necro'd and then he kept getting 'delayed'. "My camera won't work" "My brother was using it" "My brother's camera won't work" etc
It was hardly "Months", more a month. well, started 29/9, ended 7/11. So about 5 weeks
Samus_aran115 wrote:shrike wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Not bad. Paint it something other than blood for the blood god marines and I'd like it more.
I might buy one for my chaos army, to be honest.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I would never disgrace my chaos army with this flying minivan...
Contradictory much?
Ah you Yeah, I've since changed my opinion after looking at it for real a couple times.
Well- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/327480.page. Look at 2500gkm3's post. Like that, It doesn't look half as bad. Automatically Appended Next Post: WAIT! I know why I can't post pics! Iv'e been clicking "Copy"- there isn't an option for "Copy image location"!
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Post by: Chaos Lord Gir
Gah, more aviational goodness for those space marines.
Wonder how much rage I would generate from the BA players down my FLGS if I get one and convert it to Chaos. Then proceed to use it against them...
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Post by: shrike
Grey Templar wrote:i like it.
can't wait till my GKs get to zip around in one or 3 and dominate.
Don't like it- gonna do a bit of convertin', but I can't wait 'til GK come out.
Chaos Lord Gir wrote:Gah, more aviational goodness for those space marines.
Wonder how much rage I would generate from the BA players down my FLGS if I get one and convert it to Chaos. Then proceed to use it against them...
DO IT!
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Post by: EmilCrane
I wonder if GW let the images leak to test the community's reaction to it. A bad reaction could lead to a pushed back release date with a different design.
Or I could be talking out of my rear.
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Post by: shrike
Yh, I hope it is just a messed-up updatee. I want it now!
And I wanna see everyone playing that crappy storm-pelican, while I will have a much more decent looking one.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by: Peter Wiggin
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Post by: shrike
Yeah, aerodynamics isn't based on whether or not gravity is there, it's about wind resistance- Even if it could float, it would need A LOT of fue to counter the resistance.
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Post by: xxvaderxx
Has anyone thought that even thow it could have antigrav, it still needs to move in atmosfere at high speeds, thus still needing to be aerodinamic?.
Also dinamics aside, it looks but ugly.
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Post by: Asherian Command
I wonder if I should make an apocalypse data sheet for my games for the Storm Raven but make it like Vulture XD
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Post by: Grey Templar
like 3+ stormravens, 3+ Assault Squads, 0+ Dreadnoughts.
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Post by: shrike
Grey Templar wrote:like 3+ stormravens, 3+ Assault Squads, 0+ Dreadnoughts.
Nice idea. I'd allow it.
What bonuses would you get? Assault squads don't scatter? ect.
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Post by: Gitzbitah
Why not designate one of them as a Jamming gunboat? It loses the ability to transport a dreadnought, but confers a 5+ cover save to all Stormravens in the formation.
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Post by: Illumini
GAH! That is so hideous.
Good thing I have sworn off big flyers after all the pain of transporting/storing/playing vendettas then, so I get to not put that freakshow on the table.
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Post by: shrike
Gitzbitah wrote:Why not designate one of them as a Jamming gunboat? It loses the ability to transport a dreadnought, but confers a 5+ cover save to all Stormravens in the formation.
Nice idea! Try designating one of them as "Command flyer"- that has +1 BS and the jammer?
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Post by: fire4effekt
Wow, that is dumb looking.
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Post by: shrike
fire4effekt wrote:Wow, that is dumb looking.
+1.
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Post by: Asherian Command
fire4effekt wrote:Wow, that is dumb looking.
So many people agree with you +1
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Post by: Brother-Thunder
It looks like a boxed up piece of that would fall flat on it's boxed up face as soon it leaves the strike-crusier. No, bad GW. I had high hopes for them too, after releasing the new DE too!
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Post by: Terminus
I'll probably hack the wings off and move them forward, over the side-hatch. The way they are attached now, they'd snap off as soon as this thing tried to take off. Looks like it'd be a pain to transport, too.
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Post by: Grey Templar
shrike wrote:Grey Templar wrote:like 3+ stormravens, 3+ Assault Squads, 0+ Dreadnoughts.
Nice idea. I'd allow it.
What bonuses would you get? Assault squads don't scatter? ect.
Yeah, Dreds and Assault squads don't scatter when they drop from the Ravens.
call the formation "Angels of Death"
quote for the page "And so the Emperor descended from the Heavens with his Angels upon wings of fire..."
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Post by: Asherian Command
I had so much hope for this model...... Oh well I have 2 things to replace it with. My Thunderbird. And my 2 Air Craft Carriers.
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Post by: EpicMoose
Back flying toaster! BACK! away from my space wolves.
but really it looks like the back fell off
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Post by: Monster Rain
I shouldn't be disappointed by the amount of haters on the internet.
And yet I am.
The Stormraven reminds me of this just enough to be awesome.
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Post by: Grey Templar
haters gotta hate
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
That thing is FUtarded!
I have trouble believing GW is going to produce it.
Gonna have to go with this one for my Nightblood Lordangels army:
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Post by: Wiglaf
Awful. Too cartoony and unaesthetic.
It wouldn´t be out of place in some SD fan fic.
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Post by: IvanTih
It looks okay,but I probably won't get it.
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Post by: shrike
Grey Templar wrote:haters gotta hate
Yeah, but likers gotta like
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Post by: TRISKELION7
It looks like an aircraft from a slightly estranged childrens television show, it looks better when I picture it in a sea of flames!
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Post by: shrike
Anything looks better when you picture it in a sea of flames
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Post by: fox40
they had to design a flying vehicle that could carry 12 men and a dread while packing tons of fire power. i think it looks good. the high cockpit means troops are carried a deck below, which also means its high enough to carry a dread.
plus think of the other options, that top turret mounted on a razorback will be awesome. i know im gonna magnetise them so when im playing air cav i have 3 stormravens and when playing razorback spam ill have 3 very cool razorback turrets.
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Post by: Tacobake
Personally I think it is an ugly piece of crap.
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Post by: shrike
Blunt and to the point.
+1.
BTW note how the poll's going- the most popular option is for the burning.
TAKE THE HINT GW.
Stormraven- 
Stormpelican-
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Post by: Asherian Command
Storm Pelican all the way!
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Post by: shrike
Asherian Command wrote:Storm Pelican all the way!
Amen.
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Post by: fox40
still think its awesome. i used to hate the look of the leman russ but now like it so im sure some haters will learn to like.
as for people saying about moving the wings forward and looks thin at the back etc. imagine it with a dreadnought on the back and it suddenly makes sense, and assault vehicles for dreads are great straight away, bye bye razorbacks and squads if a dread gets dropped off and meltas the razorback then assaults the troops left out in the open with its blood talons while the squad of men get out and melta another vehicle and assault the troops from that one.
so in one turn with 3 stormravens fully loaded you could shoot 12 bloodstrike missiles at 3 targets while shooting 3 twin las and 3 twin multi melta at another 3 targets, then let loose 3 dreads to shoot and assault with blood talons, meltas etc, while 3 squads of men shoot and assault 3 other targets. total carnage in one turn.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
fox40 wrote:still think its awesome. i used to hate the look of the leman russ but now like it so im sure some haters will learn to like.
as for people saying about moving the wings forward and looks thin at the back etc. imagine it with a dreadnought on the back and it suddenly makes sense, and assault vehicles for dreads are great straight away, bye bye razorbacks and squads if a dread gets dropped off and meltas the razorback then assaults the troops left out in the open with its blood talons while the squad of men get out and melta another vehicle and assault the troops from that one.
so in one turn with 3 stormravens fully loaded you could shoot 12 bloodstrike missiles at 3 targets while shooting 3 twin las and 3 twin multi melta at another 3 targets, then let loose 3 dreads to shoot and assault with blood talons, meltas etc, while 3 squads of men shoot and assault 3 other targets. total carnage in one turn.
How? The Leman Russ looks fine.
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Post by: Riddick40k
If it had more of a back part to it then i would consider it but otherwise it just looks like a flying metal box.
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Post by: fox40
the leman russ to me looked to much like a ww1 tank so completely old fashioned. i love modern tanks so would rather see the IG have modern sleek tanks but after getting into IG just because i like vendettas then i began to like the russ.
Im still a big fan of the leman russ punisher when alot of people hate it. but anything that allows you to roll 20 dice has to be good Automatically Appended Next Post: Riddick40k wrote:If it had more of a back part to it then i would consider it but otherwise it just looks like a flying metal box.
you have to imagine a dread on the back, thats why its open like that
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Post by: Lokirfellheart
It looks like it would tip forward in flight its front is so fat. Although many will disagree, I think its terrible-I thought it would be better but I guess they didn't want to copy the valkyrie (which is a pretty slick model) too much. Automatically Appended Next Post: SlaveToDorkness wrote:That thing is FUtarded!
I have trouble believing GW is going to produce it.
Gonna have to go with this one for my Nightblood Lordangels army:
That is much better than that frankly model.
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Post by: shrike
fox40 wrote:big fan of the leman russ punisher when alot of people hate it.
Me too! Fave 3 'russes: Punisher, eradicator, annihilator.
Riddick40k wrote:If it had more of a back part to it then i would consider it but otherwise it just looks like a flying metal box.
Well, I'm creating a back out of plasticard, and then leaving the rear open, so the dread can satnd inside instead of having to cling onto the back. Will look better too IMO.
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Post by: stompydakka
shrike wrote:fire4effekt wrote:Wow, that is dumb looking.
+1.
are you kidding?
+1234567890987654321234567890987654321
watch GW make it like 70$ lol
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Post by: Asherian Command
If it becomes 70$ I blame you!
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Post by: shrike
+1.
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Post by: Seaward
Kanluwen wrote:Gibbsey wrote:Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
I one part i really dont like is that manned turret on top... it would of been better under the front... or unmanned, it jsut looks like you wouldent be able to fire at anything
And im really hoping the model has thrusters at the front (cant really see with the marines in the way) that would explain the front heavy look and would make sense (as well as really giving the Stormraven the manuverablity its said to have) If it doesnt, im just going to add some XP
It's a ground attack aircraft with the twin-linked weaponry on top of the fuselage.
Everyone who keeps saying "the turret would have been better under the front", apparently isn't noticing the fact that the whole y'know...ramp for troops?
Yeah. It flips down. Current placement allows that turret to still fire in support of troops while it's landed to drop off its cargo.
And that's fantastic. Impractical and dumb - just as dumb as putting the engines on the underside of the wings rather than above them for better survivability on an air-to-ground platform - but fantastic. There are multi-role assault transports currently active in militaries today, and they solve the problem of having guns pointed at disembarking troops quite easily: they have them disembark elsewhere than in front of the weaponry. Say, out the side of the aircraft. Or the back.
At the end of the day, it's just a dumb-looking model any way you slice it. Aerodynamically impractical, aesthetically unpleasing, and designed to look as dysfunctional as possible.
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Post by: shrike
Kanluwen wrote:Gibbsey wrote:Seaward wrote:A ground attack aircraft with all of its ground attack turret weaponry on top of the fuselage rather than the bottom? Preposterous!
I one part i really dont like is that manned turret on top... it would of been better under the front... or unmanned, it jsut looks like you wouldent be able to fire at anything
And im really hoping the model has thrusters at the front (cant really see with the marines in the way) that would explain the front heavy look and would make sense (as well as really giving the Stormraven the manuverablity its said to have) If it doesnt, im just going to add some XP
It's a ground attack aircraft with the twin-linked weaponry on top of the fuselage.
Everyone who keeps saying "the turret would have been better under the front", apparently isn't noticing the fact that the whole y'know...ramp for troops?
Yeah. It flips down. Current placement allows that turret to still fire in support of troops while it's landed to drop off its cargo.
Uuh, yeah- what model stands tall enough for the turret to shoot from up there?
(Can't find the poster who originally sent this)
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Post by: Laughing God
Is that a new dread in the back left as well?
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Post by: shrike
Uuh:
Yes it is the new furioso dread.
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Post by: Arschbombe
SlaveToDorkness wrote:That thing is FUtarded!
I have trouble believing GW is going to produce it.
Gonna have to go with this one for my Nightblood Lordangels army:
While I like that more than the chibihawk, it reminds me of an Homeworld resource collector.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Meh. The dreadnought doesn't look very impressive either...Why could'nt they just leave the metal one? It's a fine model.
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Post by: fox40
its modelled on a thunderhawk (its bigger brother) and has doors on all sides so what choice is there but to go tall. it is perfectly in keeping with space marine design. the thunderhawk is no different with wings at the back but because people think of it flying fowards it makes sense but the thunderhawk is actually designed to fly in like the raven and drop off troops not need a long landing strip/zone. dont forget that 40k has skimmer technology. if we are to believe they can have a vehicle float like skimmers and thunderhawks can VTOL then the raven fits perfectly.
well done GW. i want 3.
i have not seen any better home conversions so rather than complain why not step up and show us the alternative designs that fit the codex description you all have in mind
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Post by: Torin the Wayfarer
Samus_aran115 wrote:Meh. The dreadnought doesn't look very impressive either...Why could'nt they just leave the metal one? It's a fine model.
Because now everything must be plastic, i resent that
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Torin the Wayfarer wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:Meh. The dreadnought doesn't look very impressive either...Why could'nt they just leave the metal one? It's a fine model.
Because now everything must be plastic, i resent that
Yeah,me too. Giant metal models build character, IMO. Especially dreadnoughts. Which is probably why our chaos dreadnought has lasted for over 15 years....
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Post by: Torin the Wayfarer
Samus_aran115 wrote:
Yeah,me too. Giant metal models build character, IMO. Especially dreadnoughts. Which is probably why our chaos dreadnought has lasted for over 15 years....
That's because that is one mighty fine model,
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Post by: Asherian Command
If we do the puddlejumper that Tom made I think I will be happy as then it will be awesome
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Post by: gohokies
Reminds me of the 'Beluga whale' Airbus cargo carrier, to be honest. And a little wimpy for such a powerful model.
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Post by: wolfshadow
Stop thinking 'airplane'... start thinking VTOL Assault Gunship.
Go look @ the MI-8 HIP and Mi-24 HIND, the 2 closest approximations to this things function in RL.
They both look like FUGLY as hell too.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Huh, about the same logic as watching Porn with average girls in it though. Sure they're more accurate to real life but...
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Post by: shrike
shrike wrote:
i have not seen any better home conversions so rather than complain why not step up and show us the alternative designs that fit the codex description you all have in mind
Uuh, that.
It would be so much better.
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Post by: Luco
Looks like a modified Land Raider with wings attached. No thanks. Completely unappealing aesthetically. Marines = big armored supersoldiers. This = flying rock.
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Post by: Riddick40k
Now that i really look at it i find that it looks too small for a troop carrier, it doesn't look like it would even hold 10 marines.. I think the rhino is more bulkier then this crap. It looks like a fish IMO
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Post by: fox40
it looks like a smaller thunderhawk.
do people not like the thunderhawk?
do they think the thunderhawk is not in keeping with marines?
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Post by: AlmightyWalrus
fox40 wrote:it looks like a smaller thunderhawk.
do people not like the thunderhawk?
do they think the thunderhawk is not in keeping with marines?
I think that's the problem. It looks as if someone took a Thunderhawk and chopped off the middle third and glued the front and the back together. It's just sillily (is that even a word? 0.o) boxy.
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Post by: fox40
but thats what its supposed to be a small thunderhawk with the ability to carry a dread in a grapple under the back and doors on all 4 sides for troops. this model fits all its criteria.
id like to see anyone do better and keep to the codex description
not everything can look super sleek etc.
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Post by: shrike
shrike wrote:
fox40 wrote:but thats what its supposed to be a small thunderhawk with the ability to carry a dread in a grapple under the back and doors on all 4 sides for troops. this model fits all its criteria.
id like to see anyone do better and keep to the codex description
not everything can look super sleek etc.
We aren't expecting it to be sleek, just not a pelican/fish like. all the weight is at the front, all the engines are at the back, the turret is too high up to shoot anything, the height is too tall compared to the width, and the back end is completely non-existent.
that photoshopped version is what they should have done.
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Post by: fox40
the photoshoped version looks good if you dont need to carry a dread, but you do. alot of people seem to forget that when they complain of height (dreads are tall)
with the guns moved down they have less los than up high. the high turret will give better line of sight over units and gives it a larger arc of fire. if people want to change there raven to look like the photoshoped one do it and lose the arc and los of the top gun and lets see how crap it will look with a dread perched out the back.
the front trusters are a good touch though
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Post by: shrike
Yeah, as I mentioned (and will do until i get some feedback) earlier in the thread- I will use the turret on a razorback, glue the razorback lascannons either side of the nose, and make a plasticard rear, leaving the back panel not there, so a dread can stand in the back.
Nod?
Or
No-no?
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Post by: lunarghost
Nod!!! I really like that idea, and if i ever do get it i would do the same thing.
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Post by: shrike
lunarghost wrote:Nod!!! I really like that idea, and if i ever do get it i would do the same thing.
Correction:
lunarghost wrote: I really like that idea, and if i ever do get it i would do the same thing.
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Post by: fox40
i have already said about using the turrets on razorbacks but ill magnetise them so can still use on stormraven when playing air cav cos with the turrets arc of fire and potms chances are you will need that arc to get los on 2 targets. drop the raven close to one tank so the squad or dread can take that on, shoot melta at another target and the turret on a target somewhere else. thats 3 or 4 targets with one move. your fixed las will limit your los to targets
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Post by: shrike
fox40 wrote:i have already said about using the turrets on razorbacks but ill magnetise them so can still use on stormraven when playing air cav cos with the turrets arc of fire and potms chances are you will need that arc to get los on 2 targets. drop the raven close to one tank so the squad or dread can take that on, shoot melta at another target and the turret on a target somewhere else. thats 3 or 4 targets with one move. your fixed las will limit your los to targets
'suppose, but still...the turret does'nt fit with it. would look better on the nose. I'd rather have a good-looking not-as-good in games model, than a crap-looking, better-in-game model.
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Post by: Xca|iber
I would much rather have Sgt Diablo's version:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/91831-.html
That thing is gorgeous. I don't give a rat's ass that it doesn't have the traditional front-disembark ramp. It looks way better. I agree with shrike about having a nicer looking model.
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Post by: shrike
Xca|iber wrote:I would much rather have Sgt Diablo's version:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/91831-.html
That thing is gorgeous. I don't give a rat's ass that it doesn't have the traditional front-disembark ramp. It looks way better. I agree with shrike about having a nicer looking model.
Thanks 
That model is gorgeous.
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Post by: fox40
now i think that one is aweful.
as someone that likes military vehicles i like there practicality, i like to see a purpose filled by its design. if looks was what made a good military vehicle then the italians would be the world superpower and the russians would be extinct
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Post by: GalacticDefender
What is a stormraven? That looks like it was made from parts of a thunderhawk, just a conversion.
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Post by: wolfshadow
GalacticDefender wrote:What is a stormraven? That looks like it was made from parts of a thunderhawk, just a conversion.
Go look @ a current Blood Angels Codex for the rules.
And its not a conversions, thats a confirmed leaked pic of a new model. Make sure you look @ the pic on the first page, not the 'shopped ones.
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Post by: Knucklehead4711
shrike wrote:So far- most votes are negative...
I think they're pretty accurate. Too much weight at the front.
I believe the model is spot on from the fluff. You have to think, the front is going to be heavier becuase this thing is designed to carry a dreadnought. Beautiful things do not always have to be pretty, example the A-10 worthog.
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Post by: Suicidal Cheez
wolfshadow wrote:I'm still not sure why people are bitching about aerodynamics in a universe where there is counter-grav.....
Gravity goes downward, not foward. There's always wind, which isn't even effected by gravity. Think before you post.
I think the model looks quite ugly. It doesn't look like a plane or a gunship at all. It might look good if you would squeeze the image in photoshop or something. lol
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Post by: rabidaskal
I don't like it. It looks too cute to me, I just can't convince my brain that its an airborne vehicle of flaming death. I keep picturing it painted pink and the centerpiece of this army:
And here's the dread it transports:
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Post by: Asherian Command
Awesome! Not the other thing but the hellokitties made me lol
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Post by: shrike
are they yours? nice paintjob
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Post by: phantommaster
Other than the turret I am afraid it looks pretty awful.
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Post by: Sageheart
i like the front, but the rest is awful...
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Post by: shrike
really, the awful bits are:
the FUgly vent overhanging the turret
the turret (doesn't look in place, probably nice on a razorback tho)
the missing back.
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Post by: wolfshadow
Suicidal Cheez wrote:wolfshadow wrote:I'm still not sure why people are bitching about aerodynamics in a universe where there is counter-grav.....
Gravity goes downward, not foward. There's always wind, which isn't even effected by gravity. Think before you post.
I think the model looks quite ugly. It doesn't look like a plane or a gunship at all. It might look good if you would squeeze the image in photoshop or something. lol
I agree thats its ugly.... But its a functional ugly, in my book. So I like it. Asthetics are a personal thing.
I was refering specifically to people saying "It will never be able to fly". aerodynamic lift is pretty much irrelevent in the 40K universe.
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Post by: DeathReaper
Yea i hate the leaked model, I hope it is just a prototype and the actual one looks better.
I rather like my scratch build better. though its not 100% finished.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/304973.page
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Post by: kill dem stunties
Looks completely terrible, i use a slightly modified forgeworld aquila lander as my stormraven, complete with working action drop down assault ramp (minus the horrid lookig r2 bubble dome atrocity anyways ...)
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Post by: Henners91
It needs bigger wings, I really don't see how that would fly.
Otherwise, barring the cockpit it looks like it's related to the Thunderhawk 
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Post by: shrike
Henners91 wrote:
It needs bigger wings.
yeah. Nice scratch-build tho IMO.
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Post by: DeathReaper
Henners91 wrote:
It needs bigger wings, I really don't see how that would fly.
Otherwise, barring the cockpit it looks like it's related to the Thunderhawk
Well to Quote wolfshadow:
wolfshadow wrote: aerodynamic lift is pretty much irrelevent in the 40K universe.
Bigger wings would lead to transportation problems (when i am carrying it to and from games) So i made the wings kind of small, since wings do not matter much in 40K.
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Post by: shrike
DeathReaper wrote:Bigger wings would lead to transportation problems (when i am carrying it to and from games) So i made the wings kind of small, since wings do not matter much in 40K.
hmm. Fold-out?
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Post by: nickmund
GOOD GRAVY, ITS HORRIBLE!!!
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Post by: shrike
nickmund wrote:GOOD GRAVY, ITS HORRIBLE!!!
told you GW- stormpelican.
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Post by: nickmund
What was GW thinking?! Though, in hindsight, I'll probably end up buying one for my GK's.
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Post by: kill dem stunties
It looks like a brick with wings >.>
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Post by: nickmund
I hope someone high up in GW is listening, total re-design i think.
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Post by: wolfshadow
kill dem stunties wrote:It looks like a brick with wings >.>
And the ThunderHawk doesnt?
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Post by: shrike
wolfshadow wrote:kill dem stunties wrote:It looks like a brick with wings >.>
And the ThunderHawk doesnt?
well, a TH looks aerodynamic-enough to possibly fly- this monstosity doesn't.
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Post by: wolfshadow
shrike wrote:wolfshadow wrote:kill dem stunties wrote:It looks like a brick with wings >.>
And the ThunderHawk doesnt?
well, a TH looks aerodynamic-enough to possibly fly- this monstosity doesn't.
I totally disagree with that. The Thunderhawk would burn up if it even looked @ a hint of atmosphere. It MIGHT be able to fly if it was delta winged. But most the weapons would be ripped off by the airstream.
So...on with rationalization hat.
I'm betting they have some sort of shilding that lets them enter atmosphere without burning up. Most Imperial aircraft would need it, as they are all about as Aerodynamic as a brick with cardboard wings.
The most aerodynamic aircaft that look like they might have a chance at flying, but no way they would be able to break the sound barrier are the Aquila Lander and the Lightning fighter.
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Post by: AlexHolker
wolfshadow wrote:I'm betting they have some sort of shilding that lets them enter atmosphere without burning up.
What, you mean something like Ceramite Shielding?
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Post by: wolfshadow
AlexHolker wrote:wolfshadow wrote:I'm betting they have some sort of shilding that lets them enter atmosphere without burning up.
What, you mean something like Ceramite Shielding?
No, some sort of energy shield... Or the weapons would be shredded by the slipstream.
Ever stuck your hand out a window on a car at highway speed? Now imagine 20-100 times that force on the flat surfaces of a heavy bolter sponson,
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Post by: Asherian Command
Its so bad its making me cry...
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Post by: Black Corsair
after the cool looking Valkyrie and the cool looking Thunderhawk..... WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!!!!!! Ugly as hell
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Post by: Torin the Wayfarer
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My eyes!!!!!
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Post by: kizzdougs
YUCK
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
It honestly reminds me of an annorexic Thunderhawk that's missing most of the back.
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Post by: shrike
stormpelican.
If GW releases the model as-is, I will paint it grey, with a yellow ramp/front lower hull
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Post by: vorpalhit
Doesn't look like it "belongs" to the other parts of the ship, looks like a random kitbash that semi-maybe-kinda works but you need the guy who built it to justify and explain the somewhat strange angles and interaction of parts.
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Post by: wolfborn
I agree with shrike
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